Yeah. Now, let's pretend like I'm on the stage and when my feet drops, everybody goes insane. Okay, this is to go crazy on the she had down booty popping in the handstand ash and you know what, look at how she thought thought forget any bigger bubble. Go on. I want to show you walk like a jokey car because anything's better than nothing. That all nothing, it all nothing nothing, know on you. I know you feel where I'm coming from. We're going less other things in my past that
I tell them, tell them, tell them, tell me. I'm in my zone. I'm feeling that. Yock. We all we the mask. If you was to go, if it wasn't, let's for the podcast. If if if hey, y'all bo b is on the cruise show, let's go. Who was that? That was a nice intro, man, I got some slaps, man. I made that myself. Man, it's in a crazy man. I know that that's a good one. Bro, That's very welcome. Man, I don't know for arms along and the balls don't
respect to the one that made it. I'm so sorry I was lying man, Okay, yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, I just started DJing, so I know that a whole different respect for DJ. Bro. That's not easy, right, it's not Jackie just started DJing too, Yeah, just when what was it? My boyfriends of DJ so me and my wife DJ. Yeah, okay, kind of thing and don't want to battle. We we've been doing it for like a year, so it's gonna be real. It's gonna be amateur night four months. Yeah, like we're
here and there. I'm addicted to it. Yeah right, it's addictive, Like I can't stop doing it now for sure. If you need you to teachure some things, man, he's ready though. Yeah, man, I'm trying to learn. I'm up to four decks now. I know how to do it on four decks. It's digital, not like yeah city, I'm doing the controller Okay, that's right, that's right. I ain't doing the
citdjs yet. I'm not at the flash drive point where I just pull up pop a flash driving as a d J. What's your favorite genre to mix at the moment? I like, okay, I like like I'm a piano house music, reggaetne, Brazilian funk, Brazil, Yeah, a little bit Yo and Andrell. You can you can mix all those together. You know what I appreciate about Brazilian funk, it's the distortion in their vocals. It's
kind of like distorted. It sounds like it's actually on a mike. So you've got Yeah, it's gonna sound like the favela, like right right right, right right, So you got crappy equipment. It's all good recorded anyway. Best. That's where the best music come from. Man, shout off the DJ fuse for that intro. Man, straight up, many many, Ye, what's your DJ name is? It's not Boney will Money will want to DJ? Won't he will? Won't he will? Because won't he do it? Yes? He did? Yes? That's great man? Yo?
How you been man? Everything good? Yeah? I've been great? Man. I mean like, yeah, life is good. And you know, you know when life be good sometimes and he'd be like you don't trust, don't trust. Yeah, one good thing happens, He's like, great, my life something we're so we come from the struggle docs. Every when everything something good happens, you always something bad, always following something like yeah, I'm like I'm not falling for it. Where Bob says, if it's too
good to be you, it's too good to be true. Hey, that's true though, that's for real true. But that's traumatic. We're walking around with a lot of trauma. Then pasta syndrome. That syndrome. Yeah, yeah, man, it's real. I think that's a It's one of the
many true signs of genius. I think syndrome. That's true. And then like you know, I feel like certain things though, like I knew I was supposed to rap, like so anything that came out way with that, I was like, yeah, I'm supposed to get this, like give me, give me all the opportunities, and but but it's like, you know, I guess because it's like I do it because I love doing it, and it's not you know, some people do it to be just to be famous, which if that's what you want to do, you know, I
have a class where I can teach you how to do that. I have in my class. I teach people how to if you want to be a producer, an artist, an independent artist, or if you want to just if you want to just sell out and just do we can do that. We can. I can teach you the right way to do that too. But like you know what I'm saying, I really teach it all. But you know, I think because I really love the art of music, like I love DJing and making music. So it's like the enjoyment I get isn't
like a lottery ticket. It's like I really look at it, like, oh, this is what I'm supposed to be doing, Like this is my life. You know what I mean? Yes, sir, you appreciate it. Oh yeah, absolutely? Like are we live right now so I can cuss? You can. Yes. You've never been wanted to like nail it in though, Bob Right, it's always like, you know, you appreciate music from the ground up. It's never let me just point me to where I need to go and I'll do my job and I'll get out of there.
No, there's more to it for you unless I'm just you know what I'm saying, I'm ready to go home smoke with Dubie. Yeah, but yeah, I really I really like I like to give people what I like to give people as much as I can in each moment, you know what I mean, Like whether it's like on stage or if I'm doing a DJ drop or if I'm putting together even if it's like a five to ten minute DJ set, like I'm gonna try to make that shit hit like you know
what I mean? So yeah, Bro, Yeah, are you it's kind of a curse too, like cause I you should be trying to go too hard. Yeah, that's what happens. Yeah, are you prepared to play in Vegas night clubs and you want to do all that? Coach them? I want to do. I want it as long as it feels like a side quist. I'll do it like I like you don't want to do feel like a job? Yeah, got it? You go translator, that's my food translator, bro, Bro the philosophers, he's a philosopher something. Yeah.
So if it's just like a fun thing for you to do, or you and your wife to do, then you're in. You're down. Yeah. Yeah, gotta feel like a hobby for sure. Yo, I'm feeling zoot Man, congratulations was crazy? Yeah, Tomorrow I'm finna go down to uh what's the city called? They make authentic zoot suits? To go, give me a zoot suit out here in Los Angeles. Yeah, I mean that's where it went down, right, the riot? Yeah? Yeah?
What was it like nineteen forty three or something like that, nineteen forty three, Yeah, yeah, I'm going out there where they where they make them. I can't remember the name of the spot, but if you need a translator, we're here, okay, ben Bro Because I was it was it was hard. It was hard to you know, it's hard to find like real authentic zoot suit like it. Yes, that's why I'm going, Yeah, I'm going, yes, what I'm You're gonna have that bitch on my
whole trip? What about the was it for you? That that kind of like oh ship you? Honestly, all this everything just like kind of lined up because like, you know, like I heard the mask. I mean I heard the mask, but the theme music I saw it on like a Explore tab or something, and I was like, yo, nobody's ever touched that. And that's one of my favorite movies. Man, the mask is like a classic you know what I'm saying. Yeah, And so I lift it's simple and I was like, man, what the fuck? And I
was like, let me just do the line. I know, we all head a mask metaphor. And so I started looking up, you know, I'm like, well the zoot suit where just you know, we start looking up the zoot suit and I was like, dang, Like I never knew it was like riots, Like nobody really knows that, Like I know, if you live out if you from here, you know, but like on on the East Coast, like we're more familiar with zoots suits from the Malcolm X movie and Harlem was in Harlem. Yeah, so I didn't know it
was like that out here, man. So uh, I just discovered all of that, and and so every all of the lore and the and the sound effects and the sample, like all that tied into just the whole thing. And I was like, this is supposed to it's supposed to have. Yeah, it really came together. It came together. It sounds so good. You did it again. Yeah, I appreciate it. I do want you taking that initiative to take a deeper dive into the meaning of it.
You know that says a lot about you. You don't like it, It's more than just what you see on the fucking outside. For you, it's got it's gotta come from a good place. Yeah, man. I try to take I try to take like uh, real life ship and like kind of like make it like a little bit lighter, like a humor to it. So so you know what I mean. But I'm I'm you know, I definitely I'm a re. I'm a I'm a student, you know what I'm saying. I really am a student, you know what I mean?
I know, I know a lot of people learn from from me, and I do teach classes and ship like that. But I'm I'm I'm able to do that because I'm a student and you know, you know, sit competitive, bro, like you know, trying to keep up with the world, bro, Like you know, being the kids that are born into the world now their their starting point is what we've learned. It took us our whole life to learn at this point and there that's the where they're beginning at.
So you know, like I'm I know how to do. I gotta teach myself how to do so many things constantly, you know what I mean, Like like I know how to edit videos, I know how to UH, I know how to engineer, produce, play instruments, I know how to mix, I know how to dj UH. I'm starting to learn how to work on Harley's Like I'm trying to be able to do that. So why I take it to the shop every time, you know what I'm saying? Many change? Yeah, man, it's cut your hair ball now on ball.
I ain't got no hair to cut. I mean, I just gotta shave it. We must learn how to do things for ourselves. Man, you got to did you work regular jobs? Because that seems like this ethic seems like the person who never fired, who wants to learn everything so they don't get fired. Yeah, I mean I grew up. I grew up. Really I grew up. Uh. I don't like saying I grew up
like poor or broke. Like I grew up in a very un a series of unfortunate events, circumstances you weren't control up, unforeseen circumstances, Hunger, there was poverty there, and I'm like, yo, I don't never want to go. It's like I'm so used to like you know what I'm saying, so used to like we like, yo, we didn't have like we kind of moved out of our apartment prematurely into a house that wasn't finished yet, and so we didn't really have doors and windows for quite a while because
you were squatting. Way before squatting, I'm talking about we had bad squirrels pigeons flying through the house. Like It's just feels so disrespectful when you're just looking up and you just words flying through your crib, like if somebody just
throw some newspapers. But you know, like I think just just like feeling uncomfortable allows being being comfortable, being uncomfortable allows you to like be able to overcome any type of adversity or any type of like you know, a rigid schedule, you know, or like just having to get up or go to the gym, having to get up and catch a flight, and like, ironically I dropped out of high school and pursued music just so I didn't have to like get up and catch the bus at six in the morning and then
just to have to catch a flight at five in the morning. And so it's like, damn, I'm doing the same stuff, but like it's something I want to do. Though, yeah, you know what I mean. So I can't complain it. We built for this. We've been chasing the bus, you know. I want to I want to know your tape because you talk about being an engineer and being a producer and learning all those things on your own. Now with AI, I know there's an AI that can
mix and master a song. Yo, that's crazy. Did y'all hear about the the Amazon uh you know, like they used to have that like just you put you take the product, and you throw it in the car walk out. Yeah, and if it turns out that wasn't AI, it was just an Indian guy like a whole building or yeah, they outsourced it and they were just looking at the camera to see what you were putting in you it wasn't really like no way, bro, I looked up the article and
everything. Bro, it's real. Meanwhile, someone was watching you from another car, right, So I feel like, Yo, I don't know, like I feel like I feel like it's still somebody have to use, like, for example, the camera, like if a camera's auto focus and some some of that is AI, you know what I mean, like knowing how to sure. I still feel like there has to be an intelligent user using AI. But what I'm sorry, what was the question? Do I use
it? Like? What's your I guess, like take on it? Because like is it as genuine as like an actual person, you know, mixing and mastering it taking over? I feel like, okay, all right, you remember in the movie The Matrix. Well, I don't know how many y'all watch all of them, but like there was a point where this dude was talking to Neo. It's like one of the elders or something, and
he was like, you know, who's really who's really using who? Because like you know, the machines got us hooked up to them using us like batteries, and we got we using robots for for us, and we both fighting a wars, Like what who's really you know what I mean? So it's like I feel like, you know, is it taking over? I mean, you know, sure, you know what I mean? I mean, you know, I guess it can. I mean, but is it?
Is it like necessarily a bad thing? If if like every the society does become fully automated and every garden gets watered and every fruit gets picked, gonna need humans? I mean it's like I need us, like we need a I do they need us? I think? So we need to create it. It doesn't just happen on its own. Control it or we have the ability to control it. I feel like I feel like maybe humans could be AI to something else. Maybe you want to go down that rabbit.
We're a YouTube video at this moment right now, right now, yo, you survived fame? Right? Oh boy? I love how you described it. What it is. Fame is crazy, right, But there had to been some stuff that you've seen or saw or heard that made you question this business and made you question yourself in this business? Like what am I doing in this? Yeah? Man, it's a it's like a you really got to sign up for this? You really do. It's like a labor of love, right, it is. Man, It's like what I'm built for.
And that's kind of I think that's why I kind of grappled with with fame or just and I really don't even like calling myself famous, bro, because like there's so many like I can still go grocery shopping, Like I can still go to the movies and like blend in. Like I'm fortunate enough where I can like pick and decide when I want to pop out and show niggas versus when I wanted to what I always tell you, that's the perfect place to be out. It really is always do bro, Like you keep
your sanity? Yeah, I mean it's like you know, you can use your face card if you want, but you don't have to, you know what I'm saying, Because like once you once you get to the to the to a certain level of familiarity you can't like none you can do. And it's like when I had my locks, man, oh, man I was I was groovy. Man, I was out public just nobody ain't nobody know
who I was. It was like, man, I thought that was you, but you had locks and I remember, and so once I shaved them off, I was like, oh, yeah, everybody know here we are. Yeah? Who would have thought? Man? Just here? No? For real, man, you mentioned that Kadok line, right, you know during that battle there had to be a bar. I mean, you're a lyrical guy, right, So is there a bar that stood out? Whether it was from Kendrick or Drake or even That's who really were perfect place to
be at. He got to the party early, he left thirly. That's growth broke out before the fight broke out, you know what I mean. Yeah, that's that's me too. Like when I be in the club and I'd be like, it's a little tensing here, it's time to deal, bro. But yeah, I mean the line, yo. I literally I'm trying to get this song out of my head, which one the song that's in everybody's head. I'm trying to get trying bro, No, it's not going nowhere. It's not. It's implanted, yes into our brain, Yes,
into our psyche Dune, Dune, I gotta fail. We got that simple from too Yeah. I heard it was ether kind of pitch down, pitched down, a little bit messed with. I'm not sure. Yeah, bro, I heard that's what Mustard did. Mustard produced it, but I don't know. You know, it's TikTok. Bro, what's the craziest ship you see on TikTok that you believed? Okay, it's not it's not that I it's not that I believe this, but there are parts of it where I'm like, all right, that's too far. But like, there's this
whole lord on on TikTok about pandas not being real. What I know, pigeons aren't real, but pandas aren't White pigeons aren't real, That's what talk. What are they saying. They're saying they like, we've never seen a baby pigeon. We haven't who just drivers seen a pregnant pigeon, pregnant pigion But they're saying you never see Okay, But what they say about pandas is you never see a panda in the wild. The real panda in the wild is the red panda. Yeah, and they're saying that like they just make
these in a zoo, like they make them there. You never see Yeah, and then and then they kind of I'm like, but it's like, I gotta I can't confirm or deny that because I never been just out in the bamboo jungle like like right right, yeah, somebody check on designer make sure he's okay, that's true. I guess we've never but we don't know because we're not in the wild. We don't know what. Yeah, we don't know. Man out there, you know what I'm saying. They are
fun to watch, look cuddly, Yeah, I mean I would. Would you have a panda? Hell no, they'll rip your face off, right, Yeah, they're there. They can't be aggression. I never seen aggressive panda. I didn't know that. I thought there was like puppy dogs. Apparently if you poke one in the stomach, it's a problem. Like this, it's kind of like dolphins, like you think they're so cute and cuddly. But yeah, he posts, look y'all, hit y'all. Yeah, ros is on site, b bro, It's all it takes the watermelon in
one bite. That's crazy, bro. Even the elephant that remember the elephant that found that found the lady funeral that the lady just saw her and she took her out again. Elephants don't forgomble her side? Did you grow up the travel chatt or not? Was that? Was that on cable? Because I ain't have cable? I think I did. I think when we got we're able to get cable. We're watching. I was watching. I had the worst thing about not having cable is like when you have it for a
little bit and then you don't have it. Got Yeah, bro, when it gets cut off, it's crazy. You remember that like it did something? Bro? Like Yo, it's like literally like you just in time out for life. Now you're seven and you're watching the news. Yeah, the family got that? That's all you got? Are you constantly creating music constantly?
Now? Yo, I'm not gonna lie Now, I'm constantly DJing like I'll be I'll like our dj like all night till the sun comes up, like just in my own and I'm like, damn, I never knew this. So it's like you constantly hear new songs. I'm like, yo, I gotta add that to the Serado, got to add that to the surride, man, and I got a whole list. It's just it's constant. So I mean, as far as music, I joined the rock band. I joined a rock band called Hockey More okay and working on the R and
B album. So I'm like looking for different R and B artists to work with, collaborate with, because you know, I can hold a no, but I'm not. I'm not going to carry a whole R and the album. Yeah I can. It seems like R and B Sensation, Bob Bobby Red. It seems like you're doing what you you love and you want to
do. Yeah, that's a good place to be at. Yeah, like I feel like I feel like it sounds so simple, but like to get to that point, man, like it really you gotta work on that like constantly, and you gotta keep like refining, refining your method, refining your regimen, your schedule, the people, the people you talk to, the people you accessible purpose, Yeah, all of that. You gotta keep working
on it, and then eventually you'll get closer and closer. Like, man, I could, I could do. I could, yeah, put it on auto pilot now, like for sure, yeah, this is easy. Here a scorpio, scorpio gang, November scorpio. Not to be confused, he was in November scorpios. We gotta get it right, yeah, November fifteenth. Now there is there a trait that you actually think scorpios. It's
like one hundred percent. What do you blame on being a scorpio? Okay, I think the jealous The jealous thing is a thing, but I think because we get the wrap for being freaky, everybody thinks it's like a relationship jealousy. But it's kind of like a Oh, you watched the movie and you you watched the movie without me, or you watched the episode the rest of the episode without me, or you got something to eat. That sounds
like a scorpio. Yeah I'm a scorpio. I'm November fifth all right, Okay, that's how I am. Though, Like my boyfriend watched the Brittany Spears documentary without me two years ago and I'm still sick. Yo, what I'm still sick? Yeah it's like that, bro, It's real, it's real. Shave your hair, you fucking what? Very personal. She had a break down. I like what you did there. I like what you did there. That was a nice one. Yeah. Yeah, man, and we're still getting tatted or we uh oh yeah man, I got I
got the head. I just got this done. It's like I think it's it's peely now, but I got the un beat down damn dog. That's right. You might as well move to l A with that. Yeah, you saying it's hard to find. I had to find a real uh uh he's Vietnamese. I think it's Vietnamese or tie, I think, but he had to get a real like fine line artist who find who knows how to do that because you can't just you can't. You can't just use the regular
gun. You can't use regular tattoo style on the on the scout and then if it's spread you just got like yeah, yeah, it's it's me a while to find this bro. Yeah yeah, now did you use just what? All right? So look, you know there's guys that go under tell us I would never I would never do that. I feel like that's too far, like like I get your whole backyard that gets burn. It was it an NBA player, No, no, no, NFL tiger did it? You know what I'm saying. NFL a player that just did it recently
passed out? They did his whole back. I just I can't. I can't do that. I gotta gotta feel now. All right, okay, you can use number cream, but you can't really the whole time. But like at the start, how you look this happened? You start, I put some numbering cream on it, right, and I was like, I'm just gonna get the number cream right. But like when he put the stencil on, it was like and then sit right, So we had to take
it and then redraw it and then shrink it down. So and then he put it back and I was like, nah, we gotta move it, so we can't take it off again and put it back. So by the time we started, the number cream was gone. So I sat through all of this and then it's like, you can't do numbing cream, like once you do the lines, because you guys go back and do the shading. So like once he puts the stencil on, you can't put numbing background. So once it were off off, so I would say I did like thirty
percent and cream all right. Took it like a man. I took it like I took it like a teenagers. You took it your new man just turned eighteen. Just not my ID, A little protection, a little raw, you know what I say. We do it. Yo. How has your writing process evolved throughout the years and how do you make sure it evolves by working by working with other songwriters? Yeah? Better better, better better.
But see, like I think, like, because I'm in a round where I'm working on like R and B music and rock music, you know you're gonna be working with songwriters. Yeah, sure, you know what I mean. But I think like, Okay, So for example, on on the Elements, my Elements mixtape series, everything historically that I've done, that's all. That's all been me, me producing it, writing it, and all of it. It wasn't until recently I got a sangle to produce one
of the singles on this new project. And you know I got I got, I got some help writing the hook for one of the songs. But like, you know, the important thing is when you're like collaborating with songwriters is like you got to know what your voice is. And I talk about that in my class too, like you really got to understand your voice. It's some comedians understand, like you can't try to tell somebody else joke, like you can't try to write and it's like it's certain, it's certain.
Shit, I want to say that, like nobody can write it for me, like I have to. I have to write. It has to come from you. It's got to come from that voice, man. And it's like, you know, that's what I feel like is important when you collaborate with songwriters as an artist. And so it's like you gotta know what your voice is and what you Yeah, if you ain't, it's like to fit. Like if you ain't, you can't just give somebody a kilt and be like yo, put gets killed on Like yo, it's got to make sense.
You got how to walk in it? Yeah, you to feeling yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. So when someone writes something for you, right, it's it's more than just writing on a paper, right, It's there's a motion involved. There's yeah, it's like it's like a it's like a it's like a it's like a cipher. Yeah, like you know, it's like uh like headband. For example, I wrote that hook. I mean I wrote the verse and got to the hook and I was like, damn, I don't know what the hook should be. And me and mister
Fab was in the studio. Fab wrote. I think Fab wrote half the hook and Tie dollar Sign wrote the second half, and then he put the Oh that was him, that's his voice. So so it's like so it's like it was like a workshop, I guess. Yeah. And so I feel like I feel like that's sort of how I like work with songwriters, you know what I mean. Sure just called on you and said, Yo, you gotta write this for me, only you can do it. You
got to produce this for me. Yo. I feel like I'm the best at like writing, the best of like writing hooks, you know what I'm saying, Like I'm the best of like producing and like writing hooks for people. I did some stuff for I did some stuff for t I, I did some stuff for UH, I wrote. I did a hook for Ludacris like way back. I feel like a lot of the ship I did was like before I even popped off, Like yeah, like way back and so, but like I don't think I could, Like I don't think I could
write, Like I don't think I could write for another rapper. I don't know. I never really tried it, though maybe I might say something. Hell, I don't know, like if I had like if I could really say something that I can't say and I could, someone else could do it better. Oh, y'all would love to do that, Like yeah, oh yeah, yeah, best advice you've gotten in the game? Was it from TI? You never it? Wait did he say this? I think this. T I has a word of words. I think he did say this.
But he's basically it's basically as saying where you're never as good as they say you are, and you're never as bad as they say you are. That's true, and it could be an imposter syndrome thing. But sometimes when it be like too much love, like yo, hold on, I need a couple of hate. When I get a couple, a couple of hate comes, I'm cool. It's real. It's real. Yeah yeah, yeah, because you could be told what you want to hear all day, but
you got to hear what you need to hear. Yeah sometimes yeah, yeah, a lot of me sometimes. Yeah. Question as far as like a business structure goes right with all the things that you do, you DJ, you know, you wrap, you produce, is it the same email or as the same person for each one of those projects or is it the different team for each one Wow, so many emails. Do you still have the bo beat beats at Gmail? I don't have that email anymore. I emailed
it once fourteen years ago. Fourteen years you did. I was trying to get DJ drops. Oh man, I got you brother today. It's gonna happen for closing years later. But we're here. It doesn't matter how long it takes, as long as you can, as long as you get there. It's about the journey. It's about this to finish. Yeah, man, wait a guilt trip on? No, no, no. I I was gonna do it anyway, I know, but I asked because I feel like if I were in your position, right with everything I got going on,
I would structure to have emails for each company. Each thing is a company, you know. I mean, we got so many emails when we did like we do like contests, we have email will producers and beats. We got emails where people could sign up for my class, got emails for like yo, so many emails. I don't even think like you got an email for subscriptions too, that's what they really need any like A. I mean, I know you could do that. They got the mail app.
But it's just I don't know. Bro, It's like it's really bad when you have when you use your laptop because on your phone you can do it. Well, I guess you could do that on the laptop too. Yeah, I don't know. Man, I feel like I feel like i'm i'm i'm ankstatus now because it'd be like I'm yeah, like I hear too often like yo, you know they gotta app for that, Bob. I'm like what you would he was talking about me that you was talking about nephew. That's right, man. So we have albums on the way. We got
albums on the way. We got a lot of music on the way. I feel like every time I think i'm I'm feeling like retire or going to hiatus is like something pull pulling me right back every time. Bro, I'm gonna stop. The trick is to stop saying that ship like just like yeah, right, motherfucker. You ever be like you have to be on vacation, but like, man, we're gonna be up all night partying, be the first one to go to sleep. Whenever I got an early flight,
I be up all night partying. It's just it's just how life is. I feel like you gotta trick life. Sometimes you do you do, you gotta trick. You gotta go up tonight. Now you're lying to yourself. Delusion, delusion,