Look, guys, thank you very much again for joining us today. I know it's sort of in the middle of your daytime or afternoons there over in the UK or Germany or wherever you might be. But we've got a bit of a special here for the podcast and the Craner command talking all about bring out your lead because it was a bit of a special event this year in 2023 as it was the last time it was going to be held at the the venue at the Foundry, the War Games Foundry.
And I really wanted to ask you on to as some of you, it's your first time to ever attend the event so that we can get more of a sort of a, I don't know, visual description, you know, mental description of. And, you know, just to try to imagine what it's like walking through the the big sort of arched, stable doors or whatever they are at the front there and walking in there and experiencing what bring out your lead is and what it's all about and why it's so, why it's such a
popular venue for old hammerers and just war gamers alike. So I thought maybe we could ask a few people here and Jack, I think maybe we'll ask you mate 1st and what was your experience? Is this your first time to attend? Bring out your lead. This is my first time to attend. I did actually a little bit of a scouting exhibition exhibition to the Foundry a couple of weeks before, just so I, you know, I could find a place. But yeah, first time to bring out you there.
It's just fantastic. It really is. It's like being a very festival sort of atmosphere, very, very friendly. Yeah, they're really, really pleasant. I kind of wish I'd gone previous years actually, in kind of necessarily knowing people there is going to have a game. I kind of didn't go before. And then, no, it's absolutely great, really, really friendly place, you know, really fantastic. And the foundry obviously limits the time to go see it now.
But it's worth a pilgrimage and it's right and right because the kind of model collection there is, you'll see things you recognize. So it's quite peculiar seeing things you've seen in old white dwarfs. Just so I sat there on display and that's it's really, really great, excellent. I'm glad everyone had positive experience. I think anybody who goes to bring out lead comes away feeling that they, you know, they had wished they'd come, you know, many years before that.
So that's really good that you had a really good experience. Now clan did. Is it your first time? Either you're a veteran now. No, it's my first time as well. Yeah, I I only found out about it. I could have gone last year. I was just. I found about just in time. But I had a wedding to go to instead, my brother in law's wedding. So this was my first time, Yeah. And. Well, yeah, as arched, it's just such a great setting for it, such an old hammer setting for an old hammer event.
I mean, the carriage caught itself where Foundry is. I mean, it's like walking into one of the buildings from the modeling workshop in White Dwarf. In some ways. Like the area, like once you get off the main road into the village where it is and you walk up to it, it's just. Just down to like the huge oak trees and stuff, you can kind of it's you can kind of almost see that maybe they went there because of all the themes they
were into. Like it kind of looks like something out of the 3rd edition rule book. It literally does. Actually, that's a really good Durkin observation. Yeah, it was just really enjoyable that I think that kind of because yeah, the atmosphere was wonderful and that like you said that the festival kind of.
Feel to it. It felt very yeah kind of family and you could like obviously I know a little bit about Foundry and their kind of links and stuff but you could just you could just pick up on that kind of family. Feel that you know this whole setting and you know genre has been in and out of that family all the way along kind of stuff like yeah seeing the stuff in the in the shop there wonderful and that the the shop felt really like I like how the the
guy at the till is like. Nestled behind he's got a round till desk in front of him, but on that they've got the original metal master of the polystar in Mighty Fortress and he sits behind that as like his little defenses around the till. Yeah, seeing all the old stuff in the cabinets, it's fantastic, all the old. I love seeing the old like black lined like war bands from from white dwarfs. Like I I saw some of the. They didn't have all of it, but
they had the. Steal occults hybrid like the Ork hybrids that they once did. Yeah, the limo. The jeans steal the limo. Everything in that real clear black lining, bright color thing that, yeah, it was like looking at those white dwarf pages for the first time all over again kind of thing. And so Viking, we'll be all glyphs and stuff on them. Yeah. Great place, really good. I know. Yeah. They were just really welcoming
like I didn't. I almost quite quickly didn't feel like it was my first time there because like. By an Ansel there and stuff. She was just, she's really good. But. Went to get the sculpting thing done because we had your little boy with us and stuff. She was like, straight away. She was like, Oh yes, we'll make this happen kind of thing in a real friendly way. It was good. That that was incredible. I can't believe that was a thing.
So getting Kev Adams to carve, carve your faces onto a goblin, some absolutely fantastic. So yeah, my son's got a little little goblin of his own. Wonderful, wonderful. That's great guys. And I know that Marcel, it was your first trip as well. You travel internationally from Germany to the UK to visit, bring out your leg for the very first time. So what was your first impression, man? Yeah, as the guy said before, it was really friendly atmosphere, like minded people all around
you. You could just stop by a table looking, asking questions. Everyone was forthcoming. And the staff from the Foundry was also really friendly and helpful. I'm really happy I restrained myself of buying historical miniatures because the Foundry has a lot of ranges for that, and seeing all the display cases with the old Games Workshop miniatures there was just mind blowing. It was good to.
Watched them again on Sunday, because then it was a little bit more not so crowded because people were leaving already. And then I managed to get on my knees and looked at the bottom shelves. You normally wouldn't do that if the shop is crowded and then you could see even better all the.
Terrain and miniatures at the bottom like all the old made houses and and and St. treats from the White Wolf are there and you could look at them from different angles because now you have the room to move around a bit more and that was just really great and and also meeting Kev Adams was my personal highlight because I was not planning doing the sculpting thing. But then the other guys did it and I thought, come on, it's one in a lifetime and it's for
charity. So I just grabbed A blister of, I don't know, late medieval captains to get my face sculpted on one of them. And that was just the opportunity I have to take and. Yeah, it's definitely shut up and take my money moment that one. Yeah, and the day before we went to Warhammer World and.
Just regarding the old hammer or hero hammer stuff I'm interested in, Foundry was so much worth it than for the world because one world it was just one side of the wall with a few displayed there and that was the old stuff. And the rest of course, I mean I get it was the new stuff they want to sell. So if you're into the old stuff, visit the foundry. Definitely wonderful.
Okay, that's good. I'm glad you had a really good first impression of visiting Bring out your lead in the UK as well and visiting Lama World. So that's all. Great that you can do that all within the very short distance of each other because they're all within the same vicinity. But we also have a veteran of bring out your lead and that's kettle trout. Kettle trout. How are you going, mate? I am all right. Thanks. Nice to be here, yeah. Thank you very much for joining us, mate.
So you've. Been through quite, quite consecutive years, I take it. Yeah, to bring. It. This year was the. I think it's the fourth time I've been so not not, you know there are obviously people who've been attending much longer than I have but yeah since since I first went I think
in 2018 I've. I've made the effort to go back each year and because of it's, you know, it's a really enjoyable event and I've you know as well, in addition to seeing lots of lovely old miniatures and games and people doing. A lot of stuff specifically for Boil, making custom boards or running scenarios that we don't often see where I've made friendships of people that with
people that I've met there. And then maybe in the following year we'll arrange to have a game or, you know, and we've made some kind of enduring friendships, you know, within the hobby, just from people that I've met there again, which is like prognosis saying it's a really open and welcoming environment. Of like minded people and what can be, you know quite a small niche, weird hobbies. So yeah, that's I really enjoy it as an event.
I think Marcel makes a good point as well in that then over the three days from the Friday, Saturday and Sunday each day, because of the number of attendees, tends to have a very different character and you know, with Saturday being much busier generally. Which means there's a lot of stuff going on, but maybe it's more difficult to see the the foundry cabinets or you know, but there's less space and stuff
to move around. So you should maybe appreciate what Findry has to offer outside of boil. Better on Friday or this Sunday when there's more space to kind of get in about stuff. I like that we had a kind of Crown of Commands table as a bit of a base camp for us, actually, that was quite handy. That makes a big difference as well, definitely, yeah. That works out really well. So Garthy does the table bookings as really good at organizing that and trying to combine.
Disparate bookings and and sort of make sure you have access to some you know the same table if you have consecutive things booked and it's very good at adapting on on on the day to find make it as convenient as possible for everyone who's there. So if I can maximize the number of people who are, you know, so that all the tables are constantly in use but in the most efficient way possible. So yeah, big credit to him for that.
So Yep, absolutely. Garth James being the main organizer for bring out your lead since its conception and it would have been pretty emotional I think at the end to say well, not goodbye, but you know to say, you know this is the end of this time this 10 year tenure at the War Games Foundry.
And of course they're going to move at some point into a new location and and the bring out your lead event will live on in another location and I I presume within somewhere within Nottingham as it's the lead belt as I call it and I presume it's going to be there somewhere. So yeah, I'm interested to know what kind of games are being played there and about the Chronic Command table and what games you guys played. So Marcel, could you tell us about what games did you play on
the Chronic Command table? I brought my dwarfs from Germany to bring out your lead, so I made just a small list and. Because it's Dwarves, I don't have to bother with magic items and such stuff, and I played I think 2 games, First was against Klem's Goblins, and I think the last game was also against Klem's Goblins, but it. Yeah, and it was, it was really fun. We had a we had a lot of fun just rolling dice and it was not competitive in any way.
And also the atmosphere with the other guys in the room, we were located playing and having fun, but that was just cool. And of course seeing the other tables. And sadly I missed one game where they played the. This Prutonian Joust game from the White Wolf that was really well made? Yep. And sadly, I missed that. I only saw it and then it was packed up. That was quite sad. But yeah, okay, maybe next time. And I. Think I, said Martel. They're planning to bring it
back next year, so there you. Go. Yeah, even better. Okay and. For me, yeah. Not to highlight, but really nice to see because I just sat next to the table and watched. It was a game of what's it called? Starfleet Battles, the forefather of Battlefleet, Gothic and Space Fleet. Yeah, yeah, Starfleet is the Star Trek thing. Yeah, Space Fleet. And that was just great because the rules were so weird
compared. To. Newer GW rules because you had to roll in that box lit with your V6 and making critical hits and stuff like that. And it was just a fun to watch because there was a chain reaction with explosions and suddenly half the board was empty because all the ships just exploded. Yeah, that was really, really nice to see because you don't see that game I think very often.
And just a quick shout, I know you mentioned the Protonian A Jousting game and you and Cameron, he actually emailed me because he helped me out with a scan of one of the GW catalogs, the Red Catalog to make a T-shirt print at some point And he would like to, he would, he wanted to join us this evening. But I said mate, I think we've just got too many people and it might be just a little bit crowded, you know, in terms of voices and you know, people wanting to talk and that kind of
thing. So I might bring them but him and his friend on at some point as a Bring Out Your Lead Part 2 podcasts at some point in the future. But he said it would be a great honor if you can mention us and the game that we played at Bring Out Your Lead. I did see pictures of it looked absolutely amazing. It instantly reminded me of Dave Andrews, the diorama he made I think for Games Day at one point during the 90s.
And then it became a White Dwarf game that you could you could get an access through White Dwarf magazine. So yeah, it would be really nice to have seen that they look really, really pretty on the table. There's a lot of, a lot of the, I mean, This is why we do this is because it looks like fantastic set up on the table. But you could wander around and just look at just armies that have been lovingly curated for kind of decades, I think in many
cases. And yeah, there's a lot of going around just looking at. That the fantastic armies people have created of our own Mr. Kennel, I suppose we call you, not right amongst the top of them, seeing something that's been first hand. It was a pleasure really and haven't seen them on the discord. So thank you. Can you tell us about what army you brought today to the event and what games you played on the
day? So over the course of the weekend I ended up mainly playing third edition fantasy, which is kind of really my main interest. I brought an Goblin army and a Thimmer army with me, and yeah, over the course of the weekend can switch those in the night. I also ended up playing a bit of bunging bowl. On Sunday, which was like a nice change of pace, and I played a bit of Blood Bowl previously, but I never played Dungeon Bowl, so it was interesting. It's good fun, Yeah, that sounds
amazing, mate. So yeah, I mean, it's a pretty broad church as sort of a term They use a lot now in war, gaming, podcasts and that kind of thing. But Bring Out Your Lead is not exclusive to 3rd edition of course. It spans many generations of games and different systems, and I think even Garth said if you want to play A to Sigma, just play A to Sigma. Just book a table and start. Yeah. I think it's very inclusive in that sense, yeah. I think technically the only stipulation they have for.
The type of miniatures and the type of games that are played is that any models on the table must be painted, and that's the only stipulation that they have so open to all manufacturers, from The Dark, Deep, Distant Past Three to Modern, Games Workshop or any other manufacturing. I definitely saw a game of 6 edition fantasy being played I think on the Sunday surely? I think people were playing Gloss Grave and Star Grave and really modern stuff.
I think there might even have been some people playing work, right? But I was speaking to some of the old guys and the real original people and. In the pub on on Saturday and one of them was retelling a story where one year they had an enormous siege battle and that was quite early in the history of putting out your lead. Before it was the carriage court when the foundry was still based on, and I think it was an old Babatois in Nottingham.
They organized an enormous siege game, the 3rd edition rules, with two armies advancing on one, and one force advancing on the fortification and everyone brought. Pieces of their own mighty fortress and Brian Ansell as the Fort was being set up, disappeared and came back with the original metal master, which I don't think was on display at
that point. Put it down on the table and Dave Gilson, I think, politely removed it from the table and said to Brian Ansell they wouldn't be using it because it was unpainted. And therefore not eligible to be used. If there's one game I would love to see, it's the Gilson brothers. You know, touting it out on the table top. Marcel, you were involved in some altercation, I believe, with the Gilson brothers. We won't carry you.
I didn't really saw it because I suddenly got hit by a I don't know, was it a Magic Spell card or a Magic item card. It's a flyer. They were just no doubt. Yeah, yeah, it was a very funny, very funny account. I mean, I feel sorry if you got hit back in the head, but I mean. If you're going to get hit in the back of the head by something, Marcel, I mean, you know, luckily it was just a 4th edition Magic card, so it wasn't too bad it. Wasn't the master of the mighty?
Flatters. No, no, I mean that. In. A way. And I mean that's that just. That just shows the atmosphere because the guys at the table there behind us, they had a blast and really into it And then and they said oh sorry, and of course no problem at all. I handed the card back and they continued, as did we, so no problem at all. As long as the fists and blood was involved between the gills and game, I'm sure everything will be fine. Yeah, now you guys, So you played 4th edition too, didn't
you? You guys played 4th edition on the Chronic Command table. Yeah, that's correct. Yeah. And I don't know, maybe Ken, you also played third edition or was it poorly 4th edition? No, I'll start with 4th edition in the end, cuz that's yeah, what we kind of have more of. I mean, my list was still largely. Those third edition army books based on SO I still use the three sizes of catapult and stuff, but yeah, all 4th edition I actually played. Lovely, lovely. Again, see unluckiest dwarfs in
the whole world I've. Never seen. I've never seen goblin Chariots do so well. They did everything that you dream they can do. Then they managed to break. Yeah, teach me how. Teach me how. Clem, I need to know how, mate. Mine does disintegrate before they even reach the target. So you've got to give me some. Chariot. It helps. It helps. You have 5 organ guns that cause more casualties to themselves than you want to be. Yeah, yeah, that's true.
I've been on the sore end of a organ gun in my time. I know the feeling. So that's wonderful, Okay. That's really good, guys. That's really good now. Yeah, you played now. Jack and Marcel and Clam, you guys play together. Who also was at your table? Timothy and Roger, Who's Maddox on on the Discord? Oh, right. Mad old brother. So I dragged along my brother and son as well. Oh, OK, good. That's good. Lovely. That's wonderful. Yes. It's a very much a family
inclusive thing, isn't it? Bring it. Lead. You can. It is kids along and they can have fun. They can do stuff. I mean, I'm sure there's a lot of participation games. Hell to bring a letters, is that right? You know you can.
So there was, yeah, yeah. Yeah, a lot of people bought, bought their kids along, which you know, I mean it was summer holidays, so I kind of pretty much had to, but I was slightly worried he'd feel a little out place, but there were a lot of kids there and so it was so friendly. He just had a great time to sort of wander around asking people about their their natures. And I think we spotted a couple of Youtubers we watched and he just warmed up and introduced
himself to them. Pretty bold for a six year old, but there you go. And there he got to play, He got, he got to play in that participation game of what was it called? It's like Net Commander rules, but it was Helsridge, Helsridge. So he got to play alongside Eric from Eric Tolby Workshop on the game there on Saturday, which he loved. So yeah, it's very family friendly. I'll probably be bringing him back next year as well. Yeah.
I'm also curious of what you actually ate on the day because I know that Dinanza was, you know, has her own catering company and she provides all the food and that kind of thing. So you've got like a bar and things you can, I presume you can order to eat and that kind of thing. So what guys did you actually What guys did you guys what did you munch on during the day? Kendall. Kendall. Trout. What did you munch on mate today on that, on the?
I think the pick of the boil food for me is the breakfast rolls. So they offer you like a hot breakfast roll with a selection of eggs, sausages, bacon. You know, just like I could feel English English breakfast in the roll if you like, right? And that sets you up for a good a good day's gaming and you know pretty reasonably priced and. Yeah, that's. Right. That would be. Yeah, all that patron was really, really friendly. And yeah, yeah, well priced.
Like, yeah, especially considering that's your only option really, unless you're going to. Exactly. It feels. It doesn't feel like they're trying to gauge attendees for to make money out of it. It's very much within the spirit, the spirit of the event. Yeah. Yeah, even. Just keep playing games, basically like. Yeah, it's right now. It's there to fill you up. Yeah, I, like, had a real friendly feeling of being. It's nice to kind of be a bit institutionalized now and then, isn't it?
Like when you're at something like that and everything's laid on and it is like being a kid again Because you don't, you just play your game. You don't have to think. Oh, yeah, At some point I've got to sort out dinner for the family and that it's like just. Well, they'll come and let you know when dinner's ready and stuff like that. Exactly. Reasonably priced beer as well,
which is nice, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think and that's in stark contrast to a lot of other events where companies or brands who will take advantage of the closed atmosphere and charge rates for. Just really basic food and drink that's much more than you'd expect to pay in a different context. And yeah, I don't know. I just don't get that impression that from boil that that's what the foundry are trying to do. It's, yeah, very generous and reasonable and functional. And yeah, like for.
Home cooking. Really nice stuff, but Yep, sounds wonderful. Now, did you get to rub shoulders with any big names? Any personalities there? Old guard from GW at all, guys. Marcel, you got to talk to Kev Adams here. Yeah, because we did the Skyping thing and that was done. We got our pictures taken by one of the phone free stuff and he handed them over to Kev Adams.
And I don't know, after one or two hours we could look if he's done with it. And he didn't ask, he just headed me by miniature because I'm almost bald. So it was really easy for him to recognize me. The same with clan. And I was just, I just said a few words to him that I wasn't planning doing that but for
charity. And it's so nice that he's doing it and he. Just shook my hand and I was really like, Oh my God, that's cause I yeah, the realization of that and and that's that's it. Now I just didn't want to ask him more questions because he was doing that job there and in the afterthought I'm kind of sorry because also Tony Eklund was there and he had binders with the original.
Drawings of his black and white art and he just allowed people to go through this binders and most of it as I remember was from the old Weimar fantasy role play the artwork and I saw one of my old time favorite in it. That was an adventure that was published in The White Dwarf, and it was about an Alvin necromancer and I was too shy to ask him if it's for sale. That's the thing I regret. Maybe I will do it next year or
so, I don't know. Wonderful okay any other guys cuz I know John Blanche had attended. I don't know about many other of the and other personalities. I know that you know Jervis Johnson's been there. Rick Priestly, he's attended in previous years. Did anybody else come along from the? Robin DS Yeah, I got to shake. Shake your hands and say hello to Robin DS and John Blanche when I was obviously party. Star Trek say anything, but that's great.
It was a place to meet them. I think Gary Morley was there, but I didn't see him. Yeah, no, he was there. I'm pro. And Prouds there, I think. I think Prouds too. That's great. I spoke to him, yeah. I think Trish Cardin as well, of course. Yes. Trish yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, Robin. Jews really enjoyed it when you told him his 90s white dwarf editorials that you're happy to. Talk. Yeah. Yeah, totally fanboyed. Robin Jews. Well, Robin Jews, White Dwarf is the best. White Dwarf aren't.
Yep. I'll have to. I'm actually going to agree with you, Jack there. I think that that time, that's when I first got into the hobby and I think that's my sort of pinnacle time of White Dwarf. It it there was smaller, but they just contained so much, so much goodness in there. There was so much great stuff, so much great content. Yeah, that's great. I'm really glad that really glad that Robin Jews. I didn't actually know that he attended that event.
So that's excellent to hear And Gary Morley too. That's amazing. That's great. So a few new faces coming to see what's happening, what's all this excitement and talk about with Bring out your Lid. So that's good. They're coming there to reconnect with their fans and talk to the people that, you know, really appreciate their work. So it was. Really to Kev as much as I did, because when I went back to check that if my model had been done, he had just got on sculpting it.
So I got to stand there with him for a bit while he was sculpting, He said, oh wow, you really do look like a dwarf, didn't you? You're the spitting image of a troll. Say mate Clint. And that that is a compliment, my friend. Yeah, I think, I think, yeah, he he got. I think that helped that I went back because then he got to sculpt like kind of from talking to us as well. And he's a real nice guy. He's just really, really like chilled out to him with him while he's sculpting.
But he works real fast. But it like relaxed as well. It's kind of, yeah. Surprisingly fast, actually. I can't believe how many. So the individual kind of custom sculpts he did in the course of the day and they're all really good. Like you could tell straight away who was who was who. Yeah, and some. Of those, but also that they're very definitely came out of sculpts as well, you know. Oh, yes. Yeah. Yeah, definitely. Yeah. I was going to say claim you actually remind me of Mark Jones.
Mark Jones was. I think he still works at Games Workshop, but when I worked there in the 1994, you know, he was like a real troll Slayer when he had the red beard, the red, the red long hair, and he had all these hairs and braids with all the beads and stuff like that. Like he just looked like a troll Slayer. It was amazing. So you sort of look like him. Actually, you reminded me of him. Yeah, remember. Yeah. If you look at look at the old white dwarves, mate, Mark Jones.
You look at Mark Jones's photo, yeah, he's a spinning image of a troll, say. I mean, he obviously does it intentionally to look like a troll. Say he loves dwarves and that kind of stuff. But yeah, but yeah, might be. One of those things where you can't meet because you're so ginger, you can't be in the same place as they were. Yeah, that's great guys.
Awesome. So like you would have walked around the different tables and that kind of thing during the during the three days that or two days or whatever, How many days you were there, What was the highlight? What was it? Because I know you know Tom Reynolds, another member of our discord here.
He puts on some outstanding epic, epic space marine battles, which I would love to. That's one of my dreams is go and play with Tom on his epic boards because they're all sort of modular and he does a fantastic work on terrain and miniature painting. It's kind of one of the the spectacles of of the show, I think. What was your sort of highlight of the show? Kendal trap. What do you think mate? What was your sort of pinnacle table your dream?
I this year I got to play a game with with a guy called Steve Biels who's kind of one of the original old timer guys and he has a really good blog called Somewhere the Tea is Getting cold and you know he's not updating it as much as he did you know in the kind of blogging heyday. But he he he's got like a really interesting take on old timer and makes a lot of really unusual armies and terrain like
in in previous years. I think the first year I went to Boyle he had brought with him a Hurst art molds reconstruction of the Temple of Rig which is from a very early Sithdel compendium or second edition scenario about an Amazonian temple Illustria and like he stays up in. In the Lake District for Cumbria and he'd driven down with this thing in the back of his Land Rover that I think weighed in excess of 20 kilos, the plaster brick three story temple.
And then this year he brought a really odd or creative kind of corrupted Chaos influenced Empire army. Using a whole lot of weird foundation rules. So he had mixed mixed units of Pikeman and crossbowmen. He had a small allied undead faction of, you know, kind of a vampire with a unit of raised zombies. He had a unit, a peasant levee with a plague carp in the middle of it, and it had sort of plague census bearers like.
Almost like Scaven chip types that came flying out of it when they were approached like Goblin fanatics, you know and a giant Wicker man that you use as like an animated construct giant. So yeah, just like a creative use an unusual ones, like something that's a bit a bit different. So it's always really interesting to see, you know, people making their personal tapes on. On army composition and setup and he also puts a lot of effort into how he paints and presents the miniatures.
So it was really good fun and he's a very generous opponent, so that was good fun. My highlight? Like yeah, that's wonderful, mate. This sounds like the true spirit of Old Hammer. Yeah, exactly. Personalization to your army and that kind of thing. So a lot of freedom given there. And of course you're a very skilled painter and conversion artist as well. So what did you take your famir army to bring out your lead this year?
Yeah, it did. And I've finished the I've been working on a land dragon conversion thing, which I thought I've had in mind for finishing and time, so it was good to get that on the table. And yeah, it caused a bit of damage. We used that. As a war mammoth so that using the war mammoth rules in 3rd edition with a with kind of three Vienna Finn warriors on it. So yeah.
Took a bit of took a bit of punishment getting across the table from a lot of empire cannons and some a hail of Rudolph arrows but yeah did a bit of damage once it once it got in about the enemy lines. So yeah. Was that a dragon? That's the prize winning dragon. Yeah, put it in the painting competition then. Yeah, that sort of alludes just before we get to the other guys stories, but that alludes to the painting competition.
Now every year bring out Lead does support a support the artists that work all year round to paint their wonderful miniatures, to put in the display cameras for other people to have a look at and look in OR and aspire to. So there was a painting competition this year as well. Now, Kendall, can you tell us about that? Like how many people entered and what kind of entries won on the day. So it's a really and generally in keeping with the spirit of Boil.
There is a painting competition, but it's not a hugely competitive thing. It's quite casual. There's a cabinet but open and people can stick in. The models that they want and they use a raffle ticket system. So you write your name in the book and put one raffle ticket under your model and Tony Gates and Garth tend to do the judging in conjunction with someone else over the course of you know, each year. And I think this year it was Trish Cardin who was involved with a pair of them.
Broadly, they have. 3 categories, a single model unit or squad and large thing, but they remain very open and will award additional prizes at their discretion for whatever else they think or categories depending on what's available. And yeah, I think this year it was definitely busy with a lot of things and I'd say generally. Saturday this year I think was probably the busiest and attendance I've seen that boil. So consequently there was a lot of models entered.
But there's again a whole range of stuff and like you see on the tables from really very early old hammer, you know classic Threeslaughter Citadel miniatures, right through to modern AOS kits, you know, and. It's all welcome and all appreciated. Hey, that's excellent, mate. That's wonderful. Yeah. Sadly, old man paints. Phil is not here today, but he won with his pretty amazing now dragon diorama. What's the name of the dragon again? What's the name of that? Great.
Great Spine Dragon. That's it. The Great Spine Dragon, and I think he picked up from a Bring Out Your Lead event previously. Yeah, in someone's back, in someone's boot of their car or something like that. I think there seems to be another sort of a thing offset onto Bring Out lead. You can beat people in the car park and you can buy stuff off them and that kind of thing as far as I know. Yeah, there's definitely a degree of swapping and trading that goes on, yeah.
But you know, again, it's one of the few rules of boil is that they are. That because Foundry are offering use of their commercial site for free that you don't conduct any sales or trades on their site, which is perfectly reasonable. Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. And Jack, what was your highlight made of bring it in lead this year? It's gonna sound terribly saccharine, but actually it was just kind of meeting the guys in the Discord in real life it was,
yeah, it was lovely. Nice to put some faces to names. Wonderful. That's wonderful. That's really great. Yeah. I'm really glad that people actually reconnecting and actually connecting in the 1st place to meet up in person, to actually meet each other. And you know, it's not just sort of a correspondence communication. Now you can actually meet in person and play some games together, which is the main idea. Marcel, how about you, Matt? What was the highlight if you
bring out your lid? For tables, I would say it was the old Hammer table here. Cattle Trout was also gaming on because that was just amazing. All these armies and units beautifully painted in the old hammer spirit. That was just awesome. And as Jack said, just meeting the people not only here, our guys from the Discord, but just walking around having like minded people around you. Yep, that's wonderful, man. And I think that's sorry.
I was just going to say, I think that's really in keeping with the spirit of Boil. That kind of really grew out of a group of bloggers kind of finding each other's content online and deciding to meet up in person and making an arrangement to do similarly to, you know, what happened this year with the kind of command guys booking a table and going
to the event. But the whole kind of genesis Unboil was strangers meeting on an online community and deciding to get together in person to play some games. And I think it's really good that, you know, that continues. Yeah, one of the beauties of our Discord is that you guys aren't really strangers. You've been talking to each other now in our paint and chat sessions for years. Now you know a good number of years, two or three years.
So it's just nice that you actually met in person to put a face to the name kind of thing, which is great, which is really good to see. Now Clem, what was your highlight? Might have bring out your lead this year. Well, yeah, so many and some quite similar, yeah. And definitely the meeting everyone again, the core of the Crown armies together to fight was really good, cuz yeah, like I said, we've been working on that. It was like six months the challenge. Eight months to challenge.
But yeah, to actually get those together on the table and be able to play a load of games with them when we've kind of threw the paint and chat work on those armies together, I think I thought that was really good. Yeah, just, yeah, give it a real feel of, yeah, kind of achieving something over the course of the year. That was, yeah, it was real nice to bring those in. Yeah. Meet Kev Adams again. That was really good. The tables wise, I loved the huge.
Now is it Princep's Tom and the Huge. It was used for 2nd edition 40K and then it was all modular and it had proper like dug in like gullies for the rivers and stuff, but it all would just swap in the buildings. It all worked perfectly for Space Marine as well for Epic. That was a really impressive board. That Wickerman giant you mentioned?
Get a little worried about that? Yeah, it's just a straight kit that unconverted that's available from a small company in Northumbria called In State Castings, but they've got some interesting drain and they also make some really good 28 mill scale ships. That's an interesting thing. Yeah, just, yeah, seeing so many games, you know, seeing people playing. 1st Edition Space Hulk and yeah, I was quite busy with Quarter to the Crown games and just looking at stuff.
So I didn't really play in as many participation things as I'd like to in the future. But it was just seeing them all. It's yeah, just got such a good selection of like seeing Full Tilt being played. That's really good. Yeah, that whole thing. And sorry for Marcel getting hit in the back of the head, but yeah, the. The Dave Gilson magical missile thing, that was. That library, and it just kind of, it was like, Oh yeah, there it is. It's a shame to miss that.
It'd be really funny, but I just want to see the Gilsons play against each other because I know they've got some kind of heated rivalry between the two brothers, so it would have been just really funny just to watch them play a game. It would be just hilarious. So yeah, guys, it's. And it often, yeah, it often continues on in the pub, on the on the Saturday night it's spelled doesn't necessarily stop when the day stop rolling. Boy, okay.
It sounds like a real, real laugh, like a British sitcom or something. I'll be sitting through like faulty towers or something like that. But yeah, but guys, look, it sounds like an amazing event. And you know, I'm really glad that you guys got to go there and witness it for at least the final time that it's going to be held at. Is it Newark in Nottingham, where the current foundry is situated? But. Like I said, it's not the end.
It's going to continue on as long as, you know, the Ansels want to host it and they have the premises that will facilitate such an event. And if not, I'm sure they'll work out something with Garth that they can find some other place where they can host it and Diane can do the catering and everything for it and have you guys there again in the future and it will start. I don't know if it'll get bigger or not, but it for me it always seemed like a really quite
small, like 50-60 people. But in actual fact there was like 200 people that worked through the turn, walked through the turnstiles that day, Is that right? About 200 people. Yeah, it. Feels about right. Yeah. Seems to be a kind of accepted estimate. But again, they're not selling tickets. And you know, and no one's kind of counting numbers. So I suppose it's difficult to quantify exactly. Yeah. Yeah, and it's coming and going.
And also, the weather on Saturday was really wet, so I bet a lot of people were not going because of the weather. We decided not to come because of the weather. I think that's probably very true. About half a dozen cars got stuck in the mud, I think just outside. Some degree of pushing required, I think. Yeah, wow. Okay. So but in just in closing thanks guys for coming in to share your stories about bring up your
lead. I mean I mean your stories infuse the interest of other people who listen on the podcast like myself and other like minded people who would love to play or at least to just come to have a look. I mean I could to see Jeff at Oak Band Studios videos on his YouTube channel which are always interesting and I I always love his sort of views and how how he presents. Bring up your lead. In a very much in a in a way that sort of showcases the tables and the people attending
and that kind of thing. Not being too intrusive, but just sort of standing back and just showing everybody, you know giving a glimpse of what it's like. Which I want to give Jeff a shout out and I hope I can get him back on the crown of command at some point in the future to talk about bring out your lead because he he made something pretty spectacular as a present for Diane. Ansel because Brian, unfortunately. Wasn't able physically able or his health just wasn't just
wasn't able to come on the day. So Kettle you were there, I think, mate, at the presentation at the end. What exactly did Jeff make for Diane? So I think that the guys who organized and run Boyle wanted to commemorate with us being the, I think physically the 10th time boil had taken place. Although the 11th year since it started just wanted to give something to the Ansels and Foundry to to say thanks for their generosity.
You know that allows boil to kind of really exist in the way that it does by providing you know their their facilities that foundry free of charge which is you know the generous thing to do. So decommissioned Jeff to make a life-size replica of the the Warhammer from the cover of the 3rd edition Warhammer Fantasy rulebook which was really great and like on a little kind of wooden plaque and presented it to her. And I think Jeff has a background in theater prop making.
So he did a, you know, like great job and yeah, that was seemed like a really nice warhammer related old hammer thing. An actual old hammer. Yeah, to give to the answers as a sort of gesture of thanks for all that they do to allow it to take place. Yeah, it looks absolutely brilliant. I think it was just, yeah, just a wonderful bit of craftsmanship. How he put that together. It was really, really interesting. So guys, final question, how much did you spend?
At the Foundry, did anybody bring back lead piles on the way home? And as a thank you to the to the Answers for a wonderful weekend. Marcel, we'll start with you mate. Did you buy anything? Yes, I kept strong and I didn't buy any historical ranges, so I'm really proud of myself. But I bought 2 blisters from their skeleton range like. The command team for the skeleton cavalry, because they fit nicely, I think, with the plastic old hammer skeletons, and I bought a blister of their
on that skeleton crossbow. They looked really nice. And then I bought the blister of the Oh yeah, I bought the best of late medieval captains for getting my head sculpted on one of them. That's true. And then I bought some blisters from there, or what's it called, St. Violence Range, That is a kind of modern range with punks and SWAT teams and whatever. And I bought some of them for my Tiger Punk and Zombie project.
It's wonderful, man. I'm sure the answer will be very thankful for your patronage on the day that you brought some. Some Lovely War Games Foundry miniatures back home to Germany, so that's excellent. Jack, did you purchase anything on the day mate? I did, yeah. I mean, the Foundry miniatures are actually really lovely. Yeah. I justified to myself by saying this is effectively the price of entry. There's no tickets, so you buy a little lead band to make up for it. Yeah, I did.
I got they had some lovely basement sculpt set, so I got some of those. And I let my son go and pick whatever he wanted for himself as well. So he came out of a little Hydra miniature, which, having looked at it, it's going to be an absolute bugger to put together. So it was bad to do at some point. But yeah, that didn't get too mad. Wonderful, mate. Okay Clem. What did you get mate? And well, I bought the translayer type boundary model. I can't remember it.
I think it was a Norse dwarf. Something to get my face sculpted on. And I, yeah, gave the money to charity for Kev sculpting, which was like, so generously priced in that. I mean, he's an absolute master of it. Yes. That he have. That goes to charity. And I was like, yeah, got to do that. I got the painting guide that they do. They're Kevin Dalamore Foundry Miniatures. They're painting a modeling guide.
And yeah, all things that I wasn't really intended to get, but it kind of was just inspired by the projects that came from doing the boil thing. Like now I've started Dwarf Army because of that figure. I bought their expert paint sets because their paints come in a set of three. You get like a shade tone, a mid tone and a highlight tone. I thought, oh, I want to try that out there. There you do their expert paint range, so I'm going to use that
on my dwarfs. Bought that and I got some hand Gunners. From the historical range, but they will go with my Empire army that I want to eventually build, which is mostly Battle Masters models. I thought they'd go quite well. I don't get yeah, I think that about it from there. Oh, good. Only mate did well. Very good. Excellent. Good. So it's a nice little bag of goodies there. You brought home to the Clem family? Yeah, that's nice, mate. That's great.
And kettle trad, Did you get anything made on the day? Yeah, I ended up coming away with a selection of bits and pieces. So little Kev Adams goblin writing weird 2 legged dinosaurs and yes, their outfits. And yeah, I've got it full and yeah, a few bits and pieces. Everyone came away with a little floaty guy as well and gave away a little free. That's right, specific minister for the occasion, which is actually joy to paint it.
It's lovely little men, yeah. They make an event specific miniature each year, which again is given out for free and to everyone who attends. And they again, the Boil organizers make a point of saying you've been given it as a gift, please don't sell it. You know, you're quite they're quite happy for you to give it away, but they've really strongly discourage you putting it on eBay.
And selling it to Jerome. I know him from Hastings and he has been spoiled quite a lot, hasn't been able to go this year because he's ill Yeah, well, that's a really nice thing to do. But they tend to alternate each year between a fantasy and a sci-fi and sort of sculpt to kind of. Yeah, keep the two. I'm happy. But that in itself is a really nice thing. So they do, and it's nice to have, you know, like a fairly exclusive memento of the event.
And I know that the organizers of Boil have started to supply the various other old Timer events, like the Old Timer Poland, with casts of the Boil figure to distribute at their events as well, which are in considering this. Yeah, it's brilliant. Nice thing for them to do as well. Yeah, absolutely, man. That's very generous of them. Actually painting at the moment, my Shannon, we've got there one of the. Previous Yeah. Some trap was giving those away
as well, wasn't it? Yeah, all right. Yeah. Literally just lots of this morning. That's right. So in addition to the event miniature, you quite often encounter people who are giving away other miniatures sometimes take new scopes that they have made. For instance, the The Orc Demon. It was a 3D print of a digital scope, A Spanish guy, I think his company is called Red Bar Games and made. I think he sculpted it himself
for the idle and Corp campaign. I think they were going to be playing at Boyle and he said he just printed off a few. I think they said about 150 extra copies and was quite happy to give them away to people with no expectation or, you know, all this, I need to do anything with it.
And, you know, there are several other people, other people who bring bits, boxes of, you know, double s or miniatures that they might be broken or things that they're not going to use and just sit them on a table and people can help themselves. Wow. Well, yeah, it's very difficult. Even if you don't spend any money at oil, it's pretty difficult to leave about some new miniatures in some form or another. Yeah mate, that's for sure.
Now that sounds like a wonderful event and I really thank you guys, all of you. So that's Jack Clem. Kendall Trout and Marcel, for sharing all your stories about bringing out lead for 2023 this year. I really, I'm really glad you guys got to connect and meet in person and to, like I said, put a face to a name that you known from the Discord for all these years. And it's just one of those highlights that we you guys can enjoy and hopefully I will make it there one day, one, one year,
one pilgrimage. If the big Boss allows me to make my voyage over to the UK again after, I don't know, 30 odd years since being there to attend, bring out your lead to play some and roll some dice with you guys. So thank you very much again for this evening and take care and catch you again next time. Thanks. Excellent. Thanks. OK. Bye. Bye, Thank you. Bye, bye.