Welcome back everyone to another podcast today and thank you very much for downloading and giving us the time to share another great story from Deets from the Anvil of Doom miniatures YouTube channel. So as you can understand the title of his channel, grab my interest straight away because the Anvil of Doom is one of the iconic models from fourth edition One the Fantasy battle and
proudly sits in my display case painted as well. So I was very keen to see what Deets was doing on his channel and he has some really wonderfully presented I think painting videos and he does it in a very unique style and I think it's been quite successful for him. He's only been in doing this
for about a year, which is really surprising to me. So I'm really happy for him that it's been so successful that he's built quite a big following on his channel and he has a lot of correspondence with his fans and that kind of thing that sent him models or other projects for him to work on and
collaborations. So well done to him. It's really nice to see that that's someone who's generally so nice and very genuine about the hobby is doing so well in this very niche hobby of ours. So that's the interview today. So
I hope you enjoy that. And as we're nearing a four year anniversary for the Crannick Man podcast, which is amazing, that's four years of interviews, which is still mind boggling that people still want to come on and talk with me and share their stories with you, which is really lovely. I hope to bring back some old voices like Justin, Justin Wu, a good friend of mine here in Japan that
we did the very first episode together. I think we did it. I think episode one was about fifth edition, one of fantasy battle. And I think it was at a time when I just first introduced fifth edition to Justin, he'd never played it before. So yeah, if you can hear back
all the way back then. So to a time I don't think the podcast quality was that bad, because I think we're recording it via, I think via zoom or something back then. There was in 2020 on the fifth of May. So we're getting very close to that time again, where it's the anniversary. So I hope to get Justin back on again for us to do a
fourth year anniversary special. And also my very first interviewee, which was Dave Lister, all the way from Hamilton in Canada, talking about his Wood Elf Army. And I hope to get Dave back on, because I know he's a massive enthusiast of the 90s Games Workshop games. He set up our discord and has been actively, you know, moderating that and being part of the community. And I really want to get him
back on to talk about 90s Games Workshop games. It's kind of our passion, as you know, as part of the Chronic Command. So it'd be nice to get him back on to talk in reflection over the last four years and what he's been up to, and talk about the games that we love. So that'd be really, really nice. A lot of things have been happening in the background. Obviously, the tears of Aisha campaign, it's been rebooted
and kicked off again on YouTube. And I'm happy that a lot of people have liked it and responded in a very positive way to the new format we're doing on the videos, which is good because it's a lot of time in making those videos. So I hope that people are enjoying those, every one of you. And to hear that you're enjoying it is giving me more motivation to do some more stuff. But obviously, time and work
balance is an issue. So obviously, I've got to take those into consideration. And when we can record and that kind of thing. So we're going to continue the tears of Aisha campaign with scenario two and three filmed on Monday, this coming Monday. I think that's the sixth of May. And then I'll edit those and
release those at some time during May. So we can sort of correlate those battles altogether in one sequence rather than sort of being spread out over several months, I think we should just sort of nail that on the head and get that underway. So I'm really looking forward to that. And then the conclusive battle at the end will be at some point, I'd say in June, depending if I have
enough models, it's a 3000 point battle. I don't know if I've got enough high heels, I need to work out my list for that and see where we're up to that. But in terms of hobby, I've
been enjoying some bit of painting on Sunday. And I've started working on my evil son's road trader Kev Adams character model, it's like a knob guy, which I'm really enjoying painting that I've taken out my my weapon and the Azeg the slaughterer, which is being customized by Kev Adams himself, the Goblin Master, and retouching that up because I'm playing a game
with Max in Chiba in Japan this coming Saturday. So I'm mastering my Auckland goblins as voted by my patrons on Patreon to the army that I'll bring to him to play Warhammer Renaissance in a 1500 point sort of a training training game. As it's his first time to bring his model to the table, he's taking a beastman army. And I'll record that and I'll put a short video on Patreon for that. So my patrons can enjoy the
battle unfold there. But yeah, lots of things, lots of great models, commissions have come in from people, which is fantastic. I wholeheartedly thank them for that. That's immensely encouraging for me. It keeps me, you know, it keeps me in a job. It keeps me very busy. I've got a beautiful Chaos Dwarf army here. I've got a beautiful old like a fourth edition, fifth
edition Dwarf army sitting here. I've got some wonderful models from Warhammer Quest module, Catacombs of Terror, I think, all the undead models was looking that today. So I've got wonderful figurines sitting here to be painted. I've got some stuff in the mail today from Marcus from Dicehammer, my previous
guests on the podcast. We're all the way back from Road Trader, you know, Kev Adams, second edition figures and that kind of thing. So I am really inundated with beautiful stuff at the moment sitting my table right now. I'm truly blessed. So I think I owe you guys a studio update sometime, hopefully towards the end of this week, if not early
May. Presenting a lot of those figures and a lot of those armies and all the miniatures that I have got here. So you get a sneak peek as to what I'm working on and what's coming up in terms of commissions and what you can look forward to seeing in future battle reports, perhaps a lot of it's fantasy focused. So they want a fantasy fans
out there will be very happy to hear that. But just loads and loads and loads of ideas that I really want to get out there, lots of projects and I'm working on. It's just getting the time. So thank you again to my patrons who support me each month, who allow me to basically buying me the time to do a lot of stuff in the background, making the videos, doing audio stuff for them, producing
this podcast, giving me the time to do that. So thank you so much for that, guys. I really appreciate it. And thank you to the listeners out there who continue to enjoy the interviews that we bring each week, or hopefully each week. I'm trying to keep it on a weekly, weekly basis to keep you guys entertained. So without further ado, here's Deets from Anvil of Doom miniatures with history. And I hope you enjoy it. Okay,
guys, thank you. Looking at my history, for me, obviously, I've come into the hobby in the last couple of years, really. But when I was younger, when I was, I suppose when I was like, eight, nine, 10, and 11, that's when I was like, really, that's when I was kind of like, was kind of the visuals of it kind of got me hooked into it.
And I'm guessing that was around like fifth edition, because like, I've told a story a few times, when I made it the road, he had a bunch of lizard men, like bunch of old fifth edition of Monopos, met I've monopos lizard men. And that's how it kind of got me involved in it. And I was kind of like, Oh, wow, this is amazing. And he and his mate had empire. I don't remember car he had
car friends and stuff like that. And that's where I kind of like, that's when I kind of like, that's where I think it hooked me. And I remember mum and dad would buy me what I know, white cloth magazines and all those types of little bits and pieces here and there. So, and it was in the last few years, that's when I kind of came back to the hobby. I was like, okay, like, you know, after like around end
of COVID, I was like, I need something to do. And then I kind of came back into it. And obviously, when the fantasy didn't exist anymore. It was like very, I walked into the hobby shop and it was just sigma and I'm like, what's going on here? Where's all the good stuff? You know, where's all the where, you know, where's where my house, you know, where's all that sort of stuff. And I was a bit like lost.
And then the, the, the manager of the store was trying to explain to me, you know, what happened the end times, like stuff. And I'm just sitting there, just gone like, what, what's going on here? And then I was like reading into it. And I'm like, holy shit. And I actually did buy some like, like a bought some major sigma stuff. And I was like, I just looked at it and I was like, I just don't really have any,
you know, like, I didn't really hit me as much. And then, and then so I just jumped on Facebook, Marketplace and just started buying, you know, fourth edition high elves and everything I actually wanted to paint and stuff like that. And then now I've got a massive pile behind me, which the Mrs. isn't too happy about. Just don't tell her how much you paid for it, mate. That's the secret. Exactly.
Yeah. That's the secret. I reckon it's a secret to be a good hobbyist is like, you've got to kind of hide those, you know, things that don't matter too much, you know, as long as you, as long as you can pay the bills, you're good. I can miss us with the shoes and makeup and, you know, she gets, she gets a, she does gardening and best of both worlds. Yeah, that's right. So yeah. But yeah, mate, that's, that's
interesting. Because, you know, I'm interested in, you know, like yourself, because, you know, you produce really good videos, very colorful, nice graphics. I thought you were a designer. Is that right? You're a designer by trade. Yeah. That part time. Yeah, I've done a blog with the OBS, but yeah, I did. Yeah, I was a designer and then
an art director for a little while. And then I've gone on kind of freelance now art director, I just do my own thing there. So, and I do a little bit of manual labor. I help out here and there. I did trade off the high school and stuff like that. And then, but then I went to university after that because I was like, I need to be more creative and do those things. I did illustration for a
while as well and all those things like that. So yeah, with the channel, definitely you probably shows you'd probably see all the color and stuff like that. I'm wondering what the hell's going on. So I'm just looking at your room, mate. It's like, it's just like a beautiful sort of purple hue, just, you know, covering on your walls and stuff like that. Yeah,
I got the lights down there. I did have more artworks, but I kind of like a bit like, oh, you know, I've got like, I used to print and I used to do, I used to do a lot of illustration work and I had my own little website stuff like that. And I kind of got to the point where it kind of go a bit too much. Like, I was working for a lot of like, I was doing a bit of work for companies, illustrating companies and
stuff like that. And I kind of lost my passion for it because it became what they want over, you know, like kind of what I wanted to do. And I've got to look at where I was like, I just, I just couldn't even pick up the pen anymore. I'm like, I'm just sick of this because it's something, you know, something you love. I
guess that's what I love about this hobby. It's like, there's nothing, you know, it's completely mine. I can do whatever I want and kind of, you know, paint however I want to paint. I could paint the classic style, which I absolutely love and adore from what I remember when I'm younger. But yeah, that's what happened
with that illustration. But it's weird ever since I got kind of back into doing YouTube and doing all this stuff, it's like, I'm really enjoying drawing again, but I enjoy drawing like stuff for the channel and, and, you know, like, I love drawing rap boys and stuff like that. If you skate, you know, and just doing just do a little doodles and stuff like that. So I'm slowly getting back
into it. But yeah, definitely, I'm, I still do a design here and there and I'm just freelance now. So live the good life. That's it, mate. That's it. Yeah, you and me too, mate. I'm doing, I'm doing freelance and I love it. I hope it runs out. Sorry, what's that? What type of freelance are you doing? So I'm a full -time miniature painter, commission mate miniature. Now I do some teaching very rarely. It's
quite scarce at the moment. Sometimes it pop up and I do some English teaching here. But yeah, mainly my main, main income is through, you know, commission painting. And then I do, you know, obviously make my videos and podcasts and that kind of thing. Yeah. So I gotta say, I love your miniatures. So I, I'm, I've seen the odd video of yours, the kind
of your army showcases and stuff like that. And they're like, that's exactly, I think you're, I think you paint like me where you want the best, like each minute should be the best that I possibly can. Well, that's the way I feel. I like, I'm very slow with my army building and like, I haven't even got a complete army yet because I'm still painting massive amounts of things the best
of my ability. Cause I feel like each one of these miniatures deserves, you know, deserves, deserves an eyeball. That's at least what they get from me. Well, you're very generous. I don't paint eyeballs on my guys, apart from the carrot. Hey, they still look, they all still look great. So I think I saw you scaven on me and that was like, you know, beautiful. So.
Yeah. No, thanks, mate. That's actually, that's landed in, in America now with its new owner. So James is very, very happy. He showed me some pictures of it now that he's unboxed it and everything. So I'm really glad it made it, made it there with him. And he's happy. He's so excited about, you know, fielding his scaven up by his first war hammer army. He's never had an army before. So. Oh yeah. He's lucky. He's
got one of the doors. Yeah. It looks, it looks beautiful. They even are screaming bells. I paint the screaming bells of the channel. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like scaven have plenty of fun to paint up. So I actually got to paint up some more. I've got a couple sitting here
ready to go. So yeah. Now I can tell you're an artist, mate, because you said you came into the hobby a couple of years ago, but boy, you're a bloody good painter, mate. Geez, you're nothing else does paint. I think I feel like, yeah, it's kind of weird because the people go to me like, you know, I feel like my first miniature is like, was very much like everyone else's kind of first
miniature. But it's weird because like I did like mainly digital illustration. I don't really, you know, I do the odd canvas work like back in the day, like, you know, when I was in, well, back when I was at uni and stuff like that. That's a few years ago now, I did a bit of painting and stuff like that, but it
was mainly like pop art and stuff like that. But I just feel like I'm very lucky because I really, I try to take as much in as I can and I feel like there's so many good tutorials out there that it's kind of like, I just, when I'm looking at it, and I kind of understand how the kind of the color theory works, like that's one thing I'm like, I guess I'm lucky with the background design, you kind
of understand the color theory works and what kind of works well with each other and where to bring kind of tones and highlights up to. And for me, for the hobby, I guess that's where I'm kind
of at now. It's like, I'm more of a painter, I'd say, like I love painting and I really, I think like, you know, I see some of these classical models, especially like chaos force stuff, like I really love for those guys now, because I just, the sculpts and everything about them just really sings to me. And I came into thinking I'd
be painting a full high off for me. And now I've painted, I've kind of like tried to paint every single thing I can. And now I'm like in love with chaos, chaos, I don't know why they just they really, I feel like when I'm painting, you know, maybe the colors of them and stuff like that go really well together, the blacks
and the, you know, and the reds and whatever. But anyway, back to my point, is like, I kind of, I am lucky that I kind of understand color theory there, but it has been trial and error. And you do, I feel like they're having a YouTube channel as well. It really motivates me to paint. And I want to kind of showcase these miniatures in the best possible way they, you
know, the best possible way they can be seen. So, but yeah, it is, you know, like you understand, it does, after a while it does become tedious and you're painting so much. And I think I'm good. I think I'm developing a hunch now. So that's good, mate. Your miniatures, are they in display in your room? Are they in a cabinet? Yeah, I've got a couple here. Of course, of course people have seen these on your
channel at Ambulance. Yeah, yeah. I've only got a couple here. I've got like a Skarsnik. Yeah, Skarsnik. Got a couple there. I've got my flame kind of, which I painted. Oh, I love that. Yeah. That's my favorite model, mate. You did a beautiful job on that. It's beautiful. Yeah, that's a great model. Then I got obviously some Kales, all this and some, sorry about the lighting and the lighting. That's
cool. I want people to go to your YouTube channel and check it out or the Instagram to check out the photos of your work because I'm pretty sure most people would know about Ambulance of Doom miniatures, but then it sort of just popped up in my feed one day and of course the name struck me straight away like Ambulance of Doom. I'm a massive door fan. Yeah. I was like, oh cool. I'll
check that out. Yeah. And then, you know, no, sorry. I was just going to say, I was very curious to what it was. I saw obviously imagery of, you know, like the old Hero Hammer models and then I saw you painting them and I thought, oh, that's great. It just came by chance. I didn't know you from anywhere else. It just came up in my feed on YouTube one day. So I was lucky to discover
you. And then I saw how successful your videos were and your channel was growing. And I thought, well, that's really good to see that, you know, such a niche thing has become really, really popular. But I think it's to do with
not only your painting videos, but your style. You know, you have that sort of graphical presence in your, in the logos and the backgrounds and in the way you present the videos and that kind of thing, which is kind of your own thing, which is really nice. So yeah, it's kind of like, I feel like there was a bit of a gap, you know, when I came into this, like the gap, like there's obviously, you know, a lot of one of
the fantasy old world type of channels out there. But when I saw the channel about only about a year ago, but it was like, I feel like there was nothing that, you know, you get like a lot of other channels that are kind of bigger and they put a lot of production into their things. I felt like one of the fantasy didn't have that.
It didn't have like a lot of channels, but it didn't have like the kind of the broader appeal, I guess, to, if that makes sense, you know what I mean? Like the, like, yeah, I know that's why I kind of made the channel, why I wanted it to be like, I was sitting there going, like, I want something a bit more poppy, or do you know what I mean? Like a bit more like energy to it. And yeah, so I was just like,
my Mrs actually made me do it. She's like, just do it, you know, just get it to camera. Do it, like, just go for it. And I didn't have a camera. I didn't really know how to use them. Like I didn't know how to use Premiere Pro, but that's basically about it. But you know, like, from there, it's kind of like, got a bit the production called on, he's got to do better since I first started and,
you know, sound and stuff like that. But it's, yeah, like she told me, you know, get a camera and just start filming. I was like, I'm not going to do this, I'm not going to do this. And then she was just like, just get the camera, film something, and then see how you feel. And
then I just started going from there. And then, yeah, like I put a video up and I just, yeah, I started doing a few more little videos and people have started like, you know, getting, like a bit
of positive positivity to it, you know, happy. And the main thing about the channel is like being like, I suppose for me is just like having a kind of like a good vibe to it, like kind of like a nostalgic vibe to it where, you know, you watch it and you kind of, it's, there's no drama is nothing, it's just literally painting old metal mitties to the best of the
ability. And, and I guess, because I missed the out on that when I was a kid, mom and dad didn't have as much money when I was a kid. So I never kind of bought the miniatures that I wanted or anything like that. So I'm getting them all now, you know, like 30 over 30, and I'm buying them all now. So, you know, and it's kind of giving people like, so when people look at it, they are like, I remember that.
And they remember that miniature, you know, like, I remember that. And it's like a page of the flame cannon and people just like, this is my favorite miniature. This is like, you know, this is the greatest and, and someone actually get a really nice person gifted that to me because they wanted to see it on the
channel. So it's just, yeah, just, and I, and I couldn't find like, for me, it's getting, I suppose, you know, this is as well as getting harder and harder. The prices, they're going up and up and up. So it's, it's nice that people are doing that and they want to see their models like, you know, painted and stuff like that. So, yeah, it's, that's what the kind of channel I guess is
about. It's about good times, take it easy, you know, take a lot of just watching, watching good, the classic minis get painted. So yeah. So yeah, I think, it's been lots of fun. So yeah. No, I think, I think it's definitely a niche. I think you really, like I said, you present it really well. I think people really, you know, have enjoyed the stuff, the quality of your work and your production value has really gone up.
Like I can't really compare it to the earlier stuff. I just want to know from your recent stuff. Don't watch the early stuff. Don't worry about that. I want to watch it. Did you just say you started 12 months ago? So I started, I started painting a bit over 12 months ago now. The channel, the channel will start at 12 months? The channel is about to hit 12 months. Really?
The channel is about, yeah, the channel is about to hit 12 months. So what is it? What's the date? Yeah, I'm going on about 12 months now. Amazing. That's great. You're kicking ass then because you got like 7 .6 ,000 subs and you're averaging about 3000, 4000 views of video. That's great, mate. Yeah, just, it's, I don't know what it is. I don't know. I don't know what the secret is. People keep saying to me like,
I've got another mate, he's got a YouTube video. He's like, hey, I'm like, I don't know. And I just, I think like, I think people react like they just like the, maybe I don't know, maybe it's the thumbnails. I don't, I don't really know. Half the time I sit there and I'm like, why they, why, why? And it's like, it's really, I did like an Avalanze, paint, Avalanze, Avalanze, small Avalanze, I got like
a Empire kit. Yeah. And it took me like three weeks. We had like a, because I'm from the North Queensland, Australia, and it's like, you know, cyclone, we had cyclones and flooding. And it's kind of hard, you know, this as well, like YouTube algorithm is a bit of a beast. I'm sitting there and I'm like, I got, and it took me three weeks to paint this. And
I was like, I had kind of that anxiety. I'm like, I was trying, I tried to produce a video a week. That's like my go, I've had a few weeks now, but you try, you know, you just want to keep people kind of interested and, yeah, I know what you mean. Yeah. Yeah. And I just remember trying to paint these guys and I had like 10 of these Avalanze art, like trying to paint them as best as I can. And
there's a cyclone blowing outside, power out. And I'm just sitting there, the channel's gone. Like it's over. Like it's completely over. Like it's done. The end times. Yeah. And then I put the video out and it did really well. I think it's probably highest performing video. So yeah, great. Yeah. It's really good. And then I think people really love, I don't know, I feel like a lot of people love
empire. Like a lot of people out there really, they love their empire. I get lots of messages. Like I go through Instagram, lots of messages when you're painting empire again. When are you doing this? When are you doing that? And it's mainly all empire sims cyclones. So I love their empire. But I love it as well. I love it. That's the thing as well. Like I guess is like probably
like yourself. But I love like every single army. There's something about every single army that kind of appeals to me. And I want to paint them all. Like it's still to have my favorites. But yeah, it's kind of like that. Well, everything except Lizardman and Dark Ills for me. Oh, really? Yeah. I literally there are reasons to it. There are reasons. I don't know. Just it's a bit of it. It's
a bit of an ongoing joke. Yeah, like, well, for people who don't know, I'm sure a lot of people who know who follow me on the Chronic Command, but I actually paint, I actually painted the original Lizardman in the studio in England in 1996 for the fifth edition boxers. And I bloody hated them. I love fourth edition. That's impressive. That's impressive. That's impressive. And I thought, what are these
hideous looking shitheads of things? Like they were just effing terrible. You know, I was so disheartened because I'm like, you know, I'm big into fourth edition. Fourth edition was like the best, greatest thing ever for Warhammer. And then suddenly, I got this horrible load of, you know, Lizardman and I think it was this Lizardman, no skinks. And the other guys got the Bretonian stuff, which are
beautiful. The Bretonians are wonderful, the cavalry, the arches, the beautiful metal character models and all that kind of stuff. They got all that. I got lumped with all this horrible Lizardman guys. Isn't that funny that I, they're the first miniatures I ever laid in my life. And I, and that's what kind of got me into the hobby. Like
that's what like that's my double date. I remember like 10 skinks in a box and I'm like, what is this? And my kid up the streets like, oh, Lizardman, that's amazing. You know, like they gave me hooked and you hate them. That was kind of the end. That was the kind of the end for me, you know, like, a better course. You know, I went on to play
fifth edition with my night goblin army. And I think one, one of the guys or one of his wife, I think his wife had Lizardman. She played Lizardman. Yeah, Dark Elves. I've never really enjoyed, apart from the third edition, Allie Morrison ones he did like for third edition, why am I though beautiful, but the fourth one, four edition ones I just cannot stand. Yeah,
I just, I, I, I did you, you painted some. Yeah, I just, I, the next video out this week, which I'm doing, I'm doing a bit of a collab with another painter. He won, he came, yeah, he's, he's named, on the line, is called Drinking Gang and he competed in Oldham Demon last year. You might have seen that had like an elder, far seer,
beautifully painted. He came, and he came second in the Darren Latham 90s space marine painting challenge. So I got him a little into, we kind of did a mini swap. So he loves his Dark Elves. So the first Dark Elves I ever painted and it's a sixth edition dreadboard and he gave me dread because I, I, like, I never painted Dark Elves before.
And there's something about the sculpts, they're like real sharp from, I think it's around the sixth edition, I couldn't be wrong, but they got like really real sharp features and they're like the hairs like real, it was, it was a bit of a nightmare and I was a bit like, I was a bit, you know, like hazard. I'm like, oh, should I paint
this one for him? Because we had to pick a miniature and kind of paint it and yeah, and purple as well. Like I've never really painted that much purple before and I was a bit of tearing my hair out. It was a bit of a nightmare, but it got there in the end. I'm pretty proud of it, but yeah. Oh, good, mate. Oh, that's wonderful. Yeah, that's good. I'm glad you made him some collaborations out there with him. He's
a really good painter who did that. I follow the Olden Demon stuff with great curiosity and admiration because actually the guy who won it lives in Japan here. I've been meaning to catch up with him to just see, I just want to see that model. Like I'll be just amazing to look at that, that wall dance he done. It's just incredible. Breathtasing. I did a wall dancer as well last year. I picked the right miniature,
but I didn't win. I was like, damn. Oh, mate, it's a tough, it's a very, very tough bunch of painters you're up against. So I'm, I hope to do it this year. I try to do Nagash last year and just couldn't make it in time. So I hope to do, hope to finish it off this year and submit it this year. Oh, awesome, man. I'm looking forward to that. I'm looking forward. I really, I really think you
should end like every awesome, so definitely. It's a real, it's really fun. It's a real fun competition. I feel like just the vibe for the month is like, you know, it's all all happened. You just, it kind of, on the social media, you kind of like clogs up your feed. You just see so much of it. And it really, for me anyway, it really gets me going for that, you know, for
that time of year. So I'm doing two entries this year because this year I'm pretty sure they're doing, you can have a sci -fi and a fantasy model. So I'm going for two. I'm going for two. And I'll show you the fantasy. This one request. Yes. Yeah, the dwarf troll. In shrink, there you go. Bloody hell. How much? Trade for that. Mate, I forgot it for a birthday present from mum last year. Bless
her. So yeah, so I got that. So that's, that's going to be for this year for the fantasy and I'm painting a space for the 40k and I'm going to do some banners, paint some banners, more and yeah, do that. So sitting here in my desk staring at me, but I feel like I've, I've been up more than I can chew lately because I'm trying
to do four things at once right now. And I usually, I try to do everything one, like one video at a time, but I've got like, I've got a Mordheim, a Mordheim thing I'm building right, Borg that I'm building right now next to me and I've got this guy here that and yeah, just everything going on every way. Right. That's good, mate. That's excellent. You're keeping yourself busy and
that's great. It's, it's, uh, yeah, it's really good to see you're so productive and you're trying to make one video a week, which is a lot of work considering how much it goes, that goes into the time goes into making something like that apart
from doing your day job. So I'm glad that the, yeah, the viewership is really high and you get a lot of responses that makes it worth, well, you know, worth for you as well, that you know, you're getting, you know, good response and people enjoying your content. So that's the main thing. Uh, and you get a shot, you know, thanks to you, thanks to your wife, you gave it
a shot and here you are, mate, you know, so. Yeah, it's, it's, yeah, it's very, it's, I think that's like, especially for me as well. It's like, I'm not, I know I'm not, I know I'm kind of like, new to the hobby in terms of, in terms of like
practicing painting and stuff like that. And, and, but I still, for me, it's like, when I was young about, I still have those, you know, those memories of like, oh, like, you know, golden demon back in the day and, and, and especially like, there's a few pieces that kind of like sing out to me, I still remember, I still like love and, you know,
it's, it's, it's weird. It's a weird thing is when you're, when you're nine, 10, 11, you really want to be involved in something, but you don't have the money, you know, it's, it's a bit of an expensive kind of hobby and, and stuff like that. And now I get to the second
chance to kind of do it again. And I kind of, and I get to do it really, like, I get to do, I feel like I get to do it well and do it the way I want to do it. So I'm very, very lucky to like that. And I, and I'm happy because I'm learning so much new things from all these amazing painters and, you know, so, yeah, I got to pick your brain one day because I know that you entered in a golden demon,
didn't you? Did you win? Yeah, I entered the first golden demon, won the command group with my nightgown command group. Yeah, yeah. The trophies are behind me. It's interesting because someone, like when Wellington, my mate Wellington, can go, oh man, you got golden demon trophies. Yeah, yeah. Like they don't really mean so much to me. It's, it's a funny thing. Like I've thrown trophies away. Like
not golden demon ones, but I've thrown other ones. I just have a whole heap of them. I just chucked them out. I thought, what the hell am I going to do with them? I've, I'm using one as a cheese platter. Oh my God, I believe. That was for the corvus. That was for the corvus bellae painting competition that my friend here in Japan took my miniatures over there, entered them in the painting competition because
I couldn't go to Spain to do it. I won it and they gave that what they did, they gave you like a, a wooden plaque that was basically round and they sort of just engraved, you know, ITS, you know, miniature painting winner and they gave me some brushes, which is very nice of them. I don't think the competition was all that great, but I was really happy to get it. But
I thought, what am I going to do with this thing? So I made it into a cheese platter. So I cut my cheese and crackers and everything on it. At least you get a use out of it. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, these things behind me, I mean, I can, I can appreciate them now more, but at the time was like, what I'm going to do with these things? It is a pain in the ass. It is getting in the way, you
know what I mean? So I much rather win the sword and the sword is kind of like the Holy Grail, which of course, of course now I'll never attain because golden demon now is not what it was in the 90s. It is something way beyond that. It's become kind of like a, you know, you have to be like a Michelangelo to paint. So
incredible, you know. I even like, you know, you kind of, you always compare yourself to other, that's a
natural thing. And like, I look at photos of my miniatures, I'm just sitting there with my miniatures and I'm like, I don't know where near, and I don't know about you doing for a short amount of time, but it's like, I suppose to me, it's kind of like becoming, you never stood out of this way, but it's always become a goal to get better and better and try, you know, and then, and then maybe one
day, like kind of like a bucket listing, you know, just to go over to a golden demon or something like that and have some fun and just compete just for the sake of it. But I'm looking at it and I'm like, man, I got no chance. So, maybe I should be more, I should be more than born earlier, maybe in the 90s, it would have been a way
better time for me. So. Well, in Australia, it wasn't, I think the competition was not as fierce, but in the UK, France, Germany, you know, all those Spain, you know, they had really, really top painters there and it was just so hard to, well, I never, I never entered overseas, but in Australia, at least you had some kind of chance, you know, there was, because even the store level, like they would
just, you know, people would bring in the entries and if I was the only, I think for Lord of the Rings, I got two there for Lord of the Rings, because no one else entered. There you go. It was like automatically qualified. I think I went down to Sydney and there was like very little entries for Lord of the Rings, so I won gold in two of those entries for two of those
years. And I think one was for like an open competition, I painted like an inquisitor, old hammer inquisitor for him on a diorama base and that kind of thing. That was a cool category, because that was like basically anything, you could enter anything you wanted. And I think it was like old miniatures only. Yeah.
That was a really interesting category. But yeah, I've had sort of ups and downs at Golding, because during that time, I was really into doing non -metallic medals and they, the judge at the time, just didn't like non -metallic medals. He only liked metallic, so my entries sort of got pushed down, down below and I sort of gave up. And now it's all the rage. Yeah,
it's all the rage now. Yeah, I feel like I do true metallic medals and I'm like, I feel like I'm like, oh, shit, like, and they're hard to photograph true metallic medals because it just looks like a bit of a ball in some light. I'm like, oh, this looks great while I'm painting it. And then I'm sitting there. Oh, yeah, it's completely changed. It's
completely totally totally changed. But even I attempted a non -metallic medal paint, I'm like, oh, I'll try and master true metallic medals and then I'll move on. So yeah, I mean, it's good for me because I haven't really done true metallics for such a long time, but I've enjoyed doing it because all my commissions are true metallic because
it's all done in the 90s style, you know. So it's been nice coming back to it because what I do now is just basically do the same as what I do with non -metallic medals. I blend colors in, I put shading in and highlights and all that kind of stuff. So it's kind of very similar,
but obviously have that metallic, you know. Yeah, I think that's a hard, that's a really hard thing to learn for me, some kind of relatively new to it. It was kind of understanding that. Like for me, you know, you see tutorials or whatever and they're like, I'll just throw in some, you know, like null norm or whatever.
Yeah, it's slapping on. And then I was like, why isn't it looking like, you know, and then it took me a while to realize that is the metallic medal is just a paint, like any other bit of paint and it's, you know, you know, kind of glazing it and all that type of stuff. Like just use it as another, like any other type of paint that you're going to do and edge highlighting
and stuff like that. And that's how it never, never really occurred to me until probably like a few months ago. And I was like, oh, that's how you do it. Like, you know, it's real weird, really different. So maybe I'm a bit slow in the true metallic medal department. So no, it's really hard. It's another challenge for me too. It's been really challenging because I can see people who do it really well,
just beautifully, you know, with the true metallics. I can just get techniques that I just don't have yet. So it's like another learning curve. So I'm enjoying the challenge. And we're going to talk more about your painting and more about your channel. I'm going to ask you a question about Lisbon when we come back. So we're going to go for a quick ad break and when we
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with them? Were they the good guys or the bad guys? For me, they were the good guys. Really? In my mind, they were the good guys. Yeah, it was a real weird day. He had a box of skinks and then it was like a few weeks later, he got the source for those like the shields, the copperish looking shields, she painted up. For me, they were like the good guys. I remember looking at them in the box, I don't know,
I've got an obsession with the boxes now. Kind of like you got yours on the wall there. I love that. I suppose that the designer in me loved that as well. I don't know, there was something about it that really just hit me and it became an obsession for a few years. But yeah, I love, I really did love the Lizbon and stuff like that. I think he maybe got a slam age a bit later and I was
like, wow, this is crazy. I suppose I could say before that's what kind of kick started it. And then he showed me white dwarf magazines and stuff like that. I remember going to magazines, shops with data, whatever, he'd be reading car muscle magazines, street machines, stuff like that. And he'd be there and reading white dwarf magazines next to him. So it was kind of like this real, you know, it was a
different time as well. It was very, the 90s were, and it's like, you know, you didn't have the internet, like the internet was in this early stage, so it was really like getting that information. And I suppose it's what made me like, I kind of like loved mortarheim as well. Like I really do like just reading white dwarf at a town cryer in there and stuff like that. And it kind of built out what
mortarheim is mean. And now I'm starting to get into hobby and getting more into mortarheim now, as I remember, all the town cryers and stuff like that. So yeah, it's weird how it just jumped from one to the next. A little box of wisdom and started there. And then it kind of jumped and, you know, it progressed for me. If that makes any sense. So
yeah, yeah, sure, for sure, mate. We know you do a lot of painting videos and you obviously that's your, your main passion is to paint and collect models and that kind of thing, but do you actually do any gaming? So when I played a couple games when I was younger, and I just got to be moved, we obviously say his mate had empire models and I just got to move around a unit here and there. But
I haven't really played too much. And that's my next guy. I played a game with the Warmaster last year. And I went down to Pax down in Melbourne, kind of like a gaming convention and stuff like that and hung out and took a look at a few different tabletop games there. They had a real big tabletop game section, which was awesome. The Dungeons and Dragons and stuff like that. And then I played a game with
Warmaster and I got absolutely flogged. Like I got out and the guy who played me, he had Skaven and I was Orcs and Goblins and he just like, he was a seasoned Warhammer fantasy player. And he just went so hard on me. I was just like, I was, I didn't even, I feel like I didn't even enjoy it that much. I was just like, oh, like what? And I just every role I had was just nothing like, not
void void void. I'm like, what's going on? What am I doing wrong? So yeah. So it's, and I put a thing is I do love watching a good battle report. I watched your, I watched your Hyalp one at Hyalp and Darko one the other week and it was, it was great, you know. So I'm keen to get involved in that side of the hobby. I love lore, like I love the lore sort of things as well. I
love my friends and stuff like that. I've been really getting kind of getting involved in that. And so yeah, for me, and that's what I like about the hobby as well, I guess there's like so much to it. It's like, sorry. Like, I suppose the end, the end game for me is playing, you know, playing some more games, stuff like that. I do live in a bit of a
rural area and there's a lot of 40k around me. I went to my local hobby shop, I got to drive into town for that. And I'm like, is there any, I'm playing old world or anything like that right now? And then he's like, oh, not really. And I'm like, oh, shit. He's like, you know, you're a kill team. And I'm like, now I'm good. So,
so yeah, that's kind of the end game. I still haven't finished painting my army, but I've got so many me, I could probably paint like I've got that many miniatures I could probably do. I got a scaven army, I could probably paint right now, but that many miniatures of scaven miniatures and piles and stuff like that. So I'm slowly getting there.
But yeah, the gaming side of the table, I suppose to me as well, the competitiveness, I get too competitive and I get real like, so I've got to kind of calm it down. So I got, by the time I do play a proper game, I'm going to be like ready to go. So well, firstly, I'm, I'm, it's sad to hear about your first experience playing Warmaster. Yeah.
Was it, was there any laughter from the scaven player or was he just like, no, he would go, he was going hard. He was like, yeah, he was like, it was real funny because he's just the, I had one of the guys who was kind of like, you know, I had this, the Warmaster kind of set up and he was like, just going back and forth. He's just like looking at it and nodding his head like,
or he just, you know, it's funny. I look back, I like, I look back at my life, but I'm like, man, I got told by, um, Wizards and Whiskey, he's on Instagram as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's become a big fan of chat with him and he told me, he's like, man, it's typical scaven players like, typical scaven players. So okay, whereas my good friend Kent Fury in Australia would say, you should have said to this
guy, mate, don't be a dick. You should have said that. This is my first game. Come on, have a bit of a laugh. Let's eat some, let's eat some cheese rings and drink some cola and just have a good time. He was having fun though. He was having fun though.
Running off the table. Yeah, but it's sad because like, I think the emphasis for anybody who's coming to the table for the first time is to not do that, not table somewhere, but to encourage them and say, hey, you know, that's great. You want to try it. Look, you know, let's go through some basic mechanics or let me show you what your army can do or, you know, have
a bit of a jovial kind of presence about it. It's almost like, you know, being in the 90s when we worked at games workshop, that feeling when someone walked in for the first time, they saw this nice, nicely decorated table with miniatures and terrain and we would immerse them in the game slowly. Yeah.
But with, you know, making sounds, okay, the archers will, you know, release that, oh, you know, the arrows and the there, fly down, oh, they kill the logs, you know, that kind of thing. Yeah. And I think some people are very good at doing that and some people are horrible at doing that. I think I got unlucky. Yeah, I think so. I
think so. It's okay. Like for me, and I suppose that's where like, even my channel and stuff like that, like I'm trying to, like, my hobby, my hobby, like, I love the hobby so much and it's kind of like, I'm still new, like, I still feel like I'm new to it, but I've kind of come into a setting which is like the seasons, you know, very seasoned hobbyists, but I've kind of
stepped into a realm of people who are kind of, you know, they've been here for years, like, you know, 20 plus years, like, you know, the Gropnas, man. Yeah. Yeah. So it's always going to be harder for someone like me to kind of step in and be like, hey, you know, like,
but that's what I love about it as well. Cause like everyone I've talked to is like so inviting and like, you know, they want like, it's kind of when it's a passion, you know, you both love something and it doesn't matter. So it's like, it's good like that in a way as well. So yeah. Oh, when you come to Japan next with your wife, I'll give you the best game of Warhammer Fantasy battle you
ever had, mate. Let's do it. Let's do it. I'll do it. I'll do it. I've got armies. Yeah. I've got armies. Yeah. I've got your high heels in me. High heels. Yeah. I'm trying to build this chaos pool for me and man, they're so hard to get your hands on, you know, like just crazy. I've got a few, like a few good years, but yeah, they're like, like it's, I don't know. It's weird. Like
I'm slowly high. I find high was really annoying to paint. I don't know if you like just the white and you know, there's so much true metallic metals, the whites and the blue. It's very easy to make them not look good in a way. You know, like it can be, yeah. So that's why I think I'm kind of like teetered towards chaos. So I'd rather bring some chaos to war. So maybe I'll put that bag or
something. Yeah. Yeah. Actually, right now, I've got to do, I've got to do a studio update, but my good friend Gordon, Gordon, one of my patrons, he sent me an entire chaos to war of army to paint for him as a commission. So that'll be the first time I've ever done it. I've never, never painted a chaos to war for army
before or very little. I've painted a couple of test models for myself that someone, my friend, Matias, another patron sent me to paint. And I painted those as just like kind of test models. And yeah, really nice models. I've got the, I've got the, I've got the army book now, which is apparently worth an absolute fortune on the, you can believe the price. It's just crazy now, but mate,
there are, there are means and ways. So I will, I will get in contact with you good sir. And we will find that chaos to war for army for you. No problem. Okay.
There's also really, you know, I mean, 3d, 3d printing is obviously a beast that's in the room or the elephant in the room, I should say, but you know, Brawniac, a good mate of mine in Norway that I have good conversations every time we're now discord and that kind of thing about his sculptor. He shows him designing miniatures and, you know, he's, he's having great time designing this beautiful looking models and
fate fate is L is another guy. He does some really good stuff as well. So I've seen some really good proxies that like this is for them just kind of matches up, you know, with like that, like fourth edition one really well. I've seen like just a bunch of people and I feel like that's exploding right now too. You know, obviously 3d printing is, yeah, so there's some really good stuff out there
too. I tried to sculpt something, but man, I was useless. So yeah, it's one of those things. Yeah, that'd be really hard to do, mate, but that's good that you're trying to sculpt. That's excellent. So yeah, don't give up on it. Just
keep, keep, keep chipping away at it. And that's another great skill to put, you know, into your, you know, either disassembly, modifying, converting process, you know, so that's definitely a bit of a bit of a bit of a different beast sculpting. So absolutely, I've tried my hand at it. And yeah, it just didn't, well,
I just didn't give the time. I think it's for any kind of skill like that, you really need to be very enthusiastic or driven to do it. And I just don't feel that I was very driven or enthusiastic about doing it. So yeah, I think it suits certain people. I'm just more comfortable with painting. Learning a new skill set is just not my, I'm getting too old, mate. That's why I think that's why. You're
young, you're fine. But I watched, I watched Brawniak do his digital sculpting and he said, oh, you should try, you know, it's really fun. And, and looking at him doing it, yeah, it seems kind of easy, sort of just pulling, you're pulling, basically just pulling polygons around on a screen. But, you know, it's not that simple. Obviously, he's, you know, very talented, he can do it
very well. And if he's, if you see me painting, well, you're self painting, well, that looks easy, but when you actually do it, it's not as easy. So it's like everything, everything's a skill, like even like, I feel like, you know, people assume they can do a lot of things. It's, it's, it's much harder. And everything, like you said, everything takes time and skills, like the same. And, you know, you're never
going to jump into something. That's what, like, I guess the whole thing is like, you're never going to jump into something, just thinking you're going to be able to do it the first time. And it's like, I think it's our willingness to learn and, and, and, and listen to other people and, you know, and really just take your time and kind of sit in it. So yeah, it is a bit of a
beast, that stuff. But even doing the digital, you know, digital, like you were saying, digital sculpting, I don't know if I've got too much, like, I don't know, I don't know if I'd be, have the
patience for that as well. I'd be a bit like, you know, so I tried with a, I tried sculpting with like, just, um, what was it, you know, I tried to do a little kale storf and, and I was like, oh sweet, I tried to make him in, um, 28 mil scale and it just blew out like, like everything's blue. He's got so big, well, as I was going, I'm like, no, so now it has to be a
statue or something for the army. I'll make him, make him a statue or something like that. So yeah, you can make a shot. I think it's the diet. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, it's like you say, it's, it's the hobby is very multifaceted and people
have entered the hobby for different reasons. Could be the law, could be the miniature painting, could be the terrain making, gaming, list building, you know, whatever, could be when, you know, there's so many different aspects to it. And I think that's what keeps us in the game for so long as opposed to like board games where you sort of just pulling one board game out, next one out,
next one out, it's sort of like a rotation thing. Did you ever have a time where you kind of like ducked in and out or? Not really. I sort of always was, well, until a time when I sort of got more into like PlayStation games and that kind of thing, I suppose. Yeah, they, they get you, they, yeah, they kind of pull you away for a while. I know, I played a lot of video games and I still do, but I just, I get
sucked in for a few weeks. It was that, that and the wacky, wacky, mate, I think that got me hooked on that for a while. Oh yeah, I don't, I don't mind that. So that's a bit of a deep, I know, because that's a bit of a wacky to back into a bit of a deep motivator. It does, it does get you there. I know I'm like, oh, should I paint? But then I actually painted some models where like, you know, tried to paint some
models like that. I'm like, nah, I spent way too long on the face. So yeah, it gets you. Yeah, yeah, I got obsessed with playing, I think it was FIFA World Cup 1996 or whatever it was, I came in 1992 or whatever it was. And then for a question soccer, and I just got hooked on those, I just played those religiously, like just continuously, season after season. So yeah, and then I got out of that, got, I still did
a bit of dabbling and painting. We had a, like a hobby room set up. And by that time that I was out of games workshop, I was pretty much out of it altogether. And then I sort of had a bit of a lull and then until we found Rackham, the French company that bought out these amazing miniatures and the painting style was so different. And I got well, right back into it again. So yeah, a bit of a dip and
then got straight back into it again. I've sort of never left it ever since, you know, that's
awesome. Yeah, that's like, like, I feel like I get like, I'm kind of like, even my Mrs. She's like to me, you've been like, you know, for a few years now, you've been really into this, like, you're gonna, like, is it gonna, I'm like, I don't know, like, it's like every day I'm kind of finding something, you know, you're finding something new to do, or you're finding, you
know, a new project. That's how I'm like, I'm doing more time now, now I'm obsessed with more time all of a sudden, I'm like, trying to build some buildings and I bought like a, the old box set of it and I'm like, getting into the rack. So I want to kind of set that up, put that on the kitchen table and buy some mates over and have some games. So now I'm kind of hooked on that. It's real weird, isn't it? You
kind of always got something. Yeah. I mean, I'd go nuts without having a hobby. I think maybe you're the same. I've got to have my hands busy, you've got to do something. Otherwise, I would just go nuts. If I, if someone sat me in front of a TV all day, I'd go crazy, mate. I'd go see. I've
got to build something. There's always going to be something that's, you know, there's always going to be a project that's, I've got to finish and then move on to the next one. I'm like that. I'm very much like that too. So I can play, you know, you can play video games and play, I've been playing, but I played a little bit of all this gate recently, you know, it's kind of like a Dungeons and
Dragons. Yeah. It's like, so, you know, a bit of that, but then all of a sudden I'm like, I feel like I'm wasting time and I'm wasting, you know, energy and I need to direct it to towards something that gives me a bit of joy and pride and stuff like that. So yeah, definitely. Yep.
That's where the hobby, I think the hobby for me wins out every time because, you know, after all that time, you've got something to produce, you produce something and it's a work in progress or you complete something, you think, wow, that was great because that was, that was a hundred hours well, well, well worth spent. So yeah, video games just get sucked into some kind of mega chip and this is
gone. It's in your memory. It's not, not a physical thing. And it is good. It is good playing with mates, you know, video games and games. That's like party, but yeah, I don't really mean it's, it's good to have even a good time just to do your own thing. So yeah. Yeah. No, no, there's some, there's some really good video games that I get really sucked in and
immersed into and I love them. I think they're just, you know, created by creative geniuses out there. So I really like those, but, but anyhow, mate, look, I think behind you, I can see a White Dwarf magazine. Is that your first White Dwarf magazine? No, that's, I hope that actually sends to me as well. Issue one by one. It's got the squads on it. I actually got that into me
by really, really, really nice guy, gentlemen. He's, he was like, he's like, he was into the hobby and then he was like, oh, kind of in and out. And he's like, he was into it back in the day and he's like, he's, he, um, he sent me it and, um, it's got like, you know, the old games day and stuff in it. It's, it's kind of like, I
really do, I commit as well. It's like, um, the art of war, you know, the war hammer art and stuff like that as well. Even your fifth edition, fifth edition box set on the wall there. Like that's kind of like the time and I was looking into war hammer as well
and that kind of got me the artworks as well. So I really do love, um, I love the art of war hammer and, and it's another thing, you know, coming back into the hobby in recent years and then opening up a white, a recent white dwarf and I'm like, what is this trash? Like this is, this is what I remember, you know, no offense to anyone for liking it. But it doesn't have the same and yeah, this didn't have
the same appeal to me. You know what I mean? Like back in the day, it had like all the art and, um, you know, like all the greatest artists and like, you know, John Blanche, all that, you know, like that's what's kind of like, I guess the aesthetic of that. So I do, I'm, I'm gonna, I think I'm at risk right now. I'm starting to collect white dwarf magazines all of a
sudden. I'm like, this like, I'm like, oh man, I'm on eBay looking and I'm like, yeah, one getting that copy and that and that. So, um, um, running in the risk of getting another expansion. But secret from the wife, mate, to keep it a secret, put in the back. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. What's that? Like nothing, nothing. Some guy in the street just did to me, you know, she probably think they're all
bloody playboys or something like that. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no. No, but yeah, it's definitely the art like that art gets me to, you know, so, um, yeah, it's, it's, um, yeah, it's, yeah, all that type of stuff as well. So I like, I got about there and it's kind of like my part. I enjoy hanging up there. Yeah. So, oh mate. It's a classic view of art. I work there's Dave Gallagher,
mate. It's classic. Yeah, Dave Gallagher. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's a bit. So yeah, it's, um, I like, and that's the thing as well being illustrated, I guess that's kind of like where I'm at too. Like I love that. Like I love, I love like the Warhammer aesthetic and like how silly it was. And even like, um, you know, um, I guess all the codex cover arts and stuff like that are kind of like
real. They get me, get me really involved as well. So I love all that sort of that side of the art of Warhammer as well as kind of like another whole area in itself, which is just,
you know, you could kind of dive into as well. So, and I see like, yeah, yesterday I saw, I don't know if it was real, but someone put a post on Instagram and it was the original, um, elder codex, you know, I think it was like the second edition and it was like selling the original artwork for something like $100 ,000 like the original. Oh
yeah, I saw that. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, yeah, man, it's, yeah, yeah, it's happening now. Isn't it? It's all, it's all changing now. So that's good. Good for them because they're able to retire or they haven't retired already. They can cash it in now, mate. So good on them. It's just goes to show value, you know, how much the hobbies can be valued and how much it's appreciated
as well. So yeah. I think Andy Smith has been a big contributor to that. He's the old work, old hammer art page on Instagram and on YouTube. I interviewed him during COVID. He's a really, really nice guy, but he does that out of charity. Like he, he doesn't take any commissions. He just basically takes the art from the artist and he sells, he finds a buy and he sells it, getting the best price for the artist.
He does a great job with doing that. I need to get him back on the show at some point because he's a really interesting guy. That's amazing. It's amazing. It's amazing. He's selfful. Like I think he said on Facebook how much he sold and it's like a staggering amount of money that he's made for other people, which is really generously done out of his own heart because he loves all this stuff. He
loves the old hammer art. Yeah. I see another channel, FilmDegminatious, and he's got, because he's like John Blanche and he's got some, you know, it's not like, oh boy, those got, they'll definitely be worth something one day. Like even like now they're worth something because it's changing. You know what I mean? It's all like, I guess as time goes by and more people kind of, it's really a weird day. It's
like, it's kind of like exploded. Like it's exploded in a way, but then it's, I think a lot of people kind of like myself have come back and even on my channel, I look at people coming back to the hobby. They're like, I get messages from people all the time saying, I'm like, you know, I left, I was a kid, I was into it. And then now I'm getting back into it. And when I came back, there was no, no one in the
fantasy, but obviously the old world is out now. So, and I feel like it's like, now people live back and they got money. And you know what I mean? Where I wear adults now, we're getting a bit older, we've got some money, we've got jobs and they're like, oh, yeah, I might buy a bit of like, you know, a bit of John Blanche art. I don't know if I just splurge on that. So hanging up in the office. So
why not? Nice, mate. Yeah. I wish I could do the same. I just need to be not married. I think that's what it is. Yeah. Oh yeah. Tell me the dream. I love her. I love her. She'll probably watch this. There's lucky battles out there with all that money they can spend on all this stuff. But mate, like you mentioned your YouTube channel, and I think people should know about it. If they don't know about it,
it's unable to do miniatures. Please go and check it out. I'll leave a link in the show notes here for the podcast in the description. So just go down there, scroll down there, click on that, and it'll take you to YouTube channel and I'll leave one in there for Instagram too. So people can check out the painted, the finished painted products because they're wonderful to see and people can go and check it out. But
look, mate, thank you so much for your time. I know it's a day off today and I know you're doing some hobbies. So I don't want to take that. Yeah, no, no, it's it's good talking hobby, even on the day off, mate. So, you know, I love your work as well and love what you do too. So yeah, thanks mate. Yeah, no, likewise, I think you're doing a fantastic
job with what you're doing and long may continue. So I think you've got the support, you've got people who really love what you're doing and that that will just drive you forward to collect more miniatures and hopefully, you know, your revenue from YouTube will allow you to buy more stuff because the price is going up. Yeah, you can get those views.
So yeah, exactly. So yeah, help detail with it with a like and a sub and to watch his videos because they're really, really cool to watch and watch him paint those classic iconic miniatures from the 90s. Thanks so much. But thank you so much again. And I'll get in touch with you, mate, about your cast wars and let's see if we can help you out with that. With you. Thanks so much for that. Yeah,
no problem, mate. I'll go, will you take care and enjoy the rest of your hobby day? You too, man. Take it easy. Thanks, Josh. Okay, thanks, mate.