Dangerous Dames | Ep.72: Uncovering Media Deception: Who’s Pulling the Strings?

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So we're surviving with your husband on the road. I want to thank him formally for all his production services. This show is produced. Thanks to Houston. And if it weren't for him, we wouldn't be having this nice presentation. So thanks for doing this from the road. I know it wasn't easy. It was down for Mother's Day visiting his mother. Yes. Very nice. Very nice. Yes, indeed. This is not the ideal way to do it, but make it work.

Yeah, but it's nice. I mean, I wish my mother were around to visit her. So it's always take advantage of your mother when she's around. You know, you never completely appreciate all the things they do for you when they're not there. Yeah, I saw. And I just celebrated my 10th wedding anniversary, so we had a double outing for Mother's Day. That was quite nice. Happy anniversary and happy Mother's Day. That's awesome. That was really great. Everybody came in. You're able to all connect.

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That is what mothers do. We back up our kids. So that really hit me. So media, you've been talking about media manipulation for a very long time. I think one of the very first times I had you on my program was to talk about Tavistock. and manipulation. I feel like it actually, in some ways, was much more simple. Everybody was in kind of one echo chamber, so...

You know, they had a lot of power, but also you only had really one narrative to reject. I mean, when there's four channels, you know, Operation Mockingbird, I feel like was... It was a very big enterprise, but it was also, in some ways, much easier than what's going on now. And yet, what's going on now, I think, is much less expensive.

But it's just so multilayered because of the way that the algorithms work and the decentralization has actually made it that much more complicated, I think. Yeah. Well, there are some things, though, we can say that we know for sure and that media really doesn't always get it right. If it's possible, I'm going to just share this one screen because...

I think this is funny. This is from the New York Times, December 8, 1903. You can see, man won't fly for a million years. To build a flying machine would require the combined and continued efforts of mathematicians and mechanics for 1 million to 10 million years. Whoops, the Wright brothers nine days later. That is pretty funny. I remember I think it was in kindergarten. I wrote like a paper on the Wright brothers and I've made like a little, uh, you know, out of like.

on a very flimsy kind of wood and I made planes and You know, yeah, I did like a little science report on it. I thought they were super cool. And I still do. And now, you know, now that I'm seeing all this crazy stuff, one of the biggest problems now is we can't tell what's true of our history.

Yeah. That's really, that is to me the scariest thing here. I agree. And I think that that's what's being weaponized is the truth. But they're doing it. It's like curated truths that are out of context. And because people haven't learned history, they don't have the context to measure it. And so they're hearing little snippets, sound bites that are out of contact.

They think now they have the gnosis that they've learned the true history, although they really haven't. What's happened is it's a mastery of paltering, I think. You're taking these very specific... instances and you're taking sound bites and you're steering a narrative using them. So you're weaponizing truth, which I think is really insidious. And you know, the funny thing is I thought, so I did a really deep research project using primary sources.

And I bought a newspaper archive to look at the pandemic, so-called pandemic that wasn't actually, of 1918. And I was really shocked. You know that video you've probably seen at the video where you have all the so-called independent news outlets and they put them all together talking. And it sounds like a great course because they're all saying.

We think this would be dangerous for a democracy. They're all saying the same thing, right? But when I got this archive and I started and I put in three words and the way the archive works, it does character recognition. So it can scan these old newspapers. And essentially what it did, I put in terms. I started in 1917 because I didn't want to miss anything. So I started from 1917 to 1930 or something. And I just searched for...

pandemic, influenza, and something else. I can't remember. I can't remember the third term I had in there. And I put it between a date range. And what it would do is it popped up on the news stories. And then it highlighted my three words that I had used. So the first page of the first ten articles popped up.

And I noticed that the yellow highlight was in the same exact place on all these articles. So I started actually reading the articles. These were just like that Greek chorus, only these were newspaper articles. So this was like... Yeah, you can see it and I actually show you a picture of what I found on the pandemic of 1918 which is on my website. And actually, I'm bringing that up to date and rewriting a couple of things and just making it clearer and better. But the point is, is that.

These are theoretically independent news, little tiny newspapers like, you know, I'm just making these names up, but they had names like this, the raccoon, the racing raccoon, the Colorado cucumber and things like that. They were little town newspapers. but they had identical articles. And here's the funny thing. Because now we have digital age, this isn't a problem. But in that age, they did these papers by Linotype.

So somebody was feeding all these newspapers the same article, and it got put in by their local linotype typist, and so they had different typos. But that was exactly that, only it was all-time newspaper. And what you realize when you read this about the pandemic of 1918, first of all, the articles didn't really start until about 1920. And if you add up the numbers over the decades, you find out they kept slowly inflating the numbers of dead in the great 1918 pandemic.

Every 10 years you would see that was quite a bit different. The other thing is these newspaper articles in 1920, they were never front page. Even in 1919, they were never front page articles. well maybe that one that that one's one but usually they were in the back of these small newspapers they were on the back page near the the lingerie ads i mean they were not a big deal

And so what's really going on here is pretty interesting. It's not new. It's just that we're better with it. And with the digital age, it's more subtle. Yeah, it's much more subtle. I was looking up because I actually had like an explanation of how... i don't think i can find it quickly enough but like how um the viral news works the viral news cycle like through the digital we have today yeah

And it is, it's very similar to that. It only don't have like, it's obviously not one television station or a bunch of newspapers that are being funneled a narrative, but it's like. They have something that's seeded through the album and then it gets picked up. But the thing is, it's the same thing because everybody's trying to get clicked. That's it.

The Outrage Cycle. Oh, okay. I'll have to look that up. Let me see if I can pull it up so that I can see it closer and maybe read it. But yeah, The Outrage Cycle, it was... I don't know. He can pull it off on the screen. Well, an example of that that I've noticed recently is don't worship Trump. That's very much like dangerous for our democracy. I keep having people from all walks of life. Christian conservatives to...

liberal pundits saying the same thing, don't worship Trump, Trump worship, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. It's like, we're not worshiping Trump, what are you guys talking about, you know? I get the point that they're kind of making, but the fact that they're all saying the same words. It says to me, it's what you're talking about. This is being seated into the consciousness. It totally is. I've gotten so much flack for this, actually. I was on, like, a group kind of podcast show.

I was like, if you listen to me for even three seconds, you'll see we actually agree way more than we don't. But that was the talking point. They kept telling me, you're a Trump worshiper. You're a Trump worshiper. You're a leader. And I'm like, this is a talking point. You're not even listening to me. You have no idea what I like about Trump, what I don't like about Trump. You can't have an honest discussion about the pros and cons because...

Yeah, you're right. And I could tell that this is a talking point. It is to shut down the conversation. And so now they've already, and this is how you create the dialectics too, because now they've already decided what team I'm on. So I'm already, I'm the opposition because I'm a rah-rah MAGA cheerleader. I have no idea what I actually think or what I actually support or what I don't support because you haven't listened to me at all.

Yeah, this is Mark Manson, The Outrage Cycle. And it is really interesting. They go through, like, the first hour, then the first 24 hours, then 24 to 48 hours. And then 48 to 72 hours. I mean, how they actually do it. It's the science of doing this. Oh, yeah. Okay. I have to read that. So, yeah. You know they got it down to a science. They did. It's totally a science. Yeah. It starts off with a minute zero. Significant event occurs. Eyewitnesses and primary sources break down the news.

Statements are made and videos are posted. Tweets are tweeted. So Twitter is a huge, like most people don't watch, you know, mainstream. news anymore most people aren't even reading newspapers or they go to their news that's really and it's so dangerous because what happens is these are cybernetic feedback loops And so when I open my Twitter, I know you don't really use Twitter, but if you were to use your Twitter and you go to your Twitter, I guarantee we'd see very, very different things.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, to you. Exactly. But it's a microcosm. So it looks, when I open Twitter, it looks like that's the only things that are happening. Everybody's outraged, right? And everybody's fighting each other about a very specific topic. And it's the whole feed is flooded with this. And this is the way they program people. I think it's way more...

I think it's way more dangerous than actually the, that's what I was saying. Like with the Operation Mockingbird, you had one narrative. So if somebody were divergent enough. They could resist, reject that narrative. But now it's like, how do you know what narratives to resist? Because it's so multi-layered and it's creating all of these little echo chambers that are siloed, but they're designed to fight each other.

and they're designed to create and there's a term actually it's called a reality tunnel And so, of course, you know, this is like a hyper, you know, postmodernism where it's all like subjective reality. I don't necessarily subscribe to that, but there is some truth to the phenomenon. where you're in your echo chamber, you're in your world, and so that's your reality tunnel. For you, that's what reality is. Everything's being funneled through that reality.

digital media space and the algorithm, this has become...

exaggerated. It's on the other side too. Here's the censorship side of that. I've been on Telegram for years since Parler shut down. I switched over to Telegram and I like Telegram because You can kind of select. If you're interested in Tartarian architecture, you can just find the Tartarian channels. Nobody's really pushing things at you. You have to go pull it out. However, I discovered...

You know, I started reading. So I studied Russian in college. I was a math major. What can I say? That was what you learned. So I studied Russian. So what happened is I started reading RTTV to see. what they were saying about COVID and then it became about the war effort and whatever was going on.

And I got a different perspective. And then after about, I'd say, six, eight months of that, or a year, maybe more, suddenly I couldn't read RT in English because it said they violated my community standards. So then I said, well, okay, I'm going to brush off my Russian. Let's see if I can read it in Russian. And for a while, for a few months, I could read it RT in Russian. Then they took that away. So then I found...

A guy named Secret Sonata, which was really a little in the woo world, but it was really good. I kind of enjoyed him and he had a sense of humor, whoever this was. And I was reading stuff again. And you could tell he was, I think he was probably Russian, although you didn't know for sure. But sometimes he would have Russian language articles. But suddenly that got taken away from me. At that point, I started saying, wait a minute, okay.

So I went over to my neighbor across the street who has nothing to do. He's not in this fight. He's not a podcaster. He works in the operating room. Okay. And I walked across the street and I said. I want you to do me a favor. Do you have Telegram on your phone? And he said, yes. I said, can you look up and see if you can read Russian RT? Look for RT News. And he had it. Then I said, okay, look for Secret Sonata. And he had it.

So this is literally across the street from me. Same zip code, same totally different households, but within 200 yards from each other. And he had those channels. So then I got really kind of freaked out. And I said, it's not just about censorship. It's about creating a world that you think you live in and it's crafted to you. You can't get out of it because when you try to go to get the news from someplace else, they cut you off. And that's pretty scary.

Yeah, I'm going to read you if I can find that. Yeah, so reality, so they can actually create your reality. But Reality Tunnel is a concept popularized by Robert Anton Wilson and Timothy Leary. Timothy Leary. Of course. He was just talking about a psychedelic world. He was trying to manipulate the actual reality tunnel using LSD. So suggesting that individuals perceive and interpret the world through a unique set of personal filters.

shaped by their beliefs, experiences, and cultural background. These filters create a subjective tunnel through which reality is experienced, resulting in variations in how people understand and interact with the same external world. But now, through these algorithms and also the censorship, they're able to craft your reality tunnel. Yeah. So that's I think really concerning.

And then we have the White House is doing their own wire, basically like the Drudge Report. And this is kind of where we got the idea to have this conversation because people, I guess if you like Trump, you're supportive of it, but they're essentially, they're aggregating and there are a lot of influencers who are. you know, having an opportunity to be a part of this media conglomerate for the White House. But I mean, I'd like to think that it's all, you know.

It does look like Drudge, doesn't it? So I don't know that I want the government to be curating my news. Yeah, no, I like, I mean, I basically, I would... I don't like the term Trump supporter. I am in favor of taking the world back from the pedophilic psychopaths that control it. And I think that he's part of the team doing that. That's just me. I hope I'm not wrong, but I think that's what's going on.

It doesn't matter. If they're not going to fund NPR, and I know that NPR was biased. I mean, first of all, they did a full page hit piece on me when I had the audacity to just suggest. that it was not in the best national security interest of America to take a vaccine and give it to mandate it for all our troops and border patrol and trauma surgeons and truck drivers, everybody that supported the infrastructure, security infrastructure of America.

to force them to have a vaccine yeah there it is there's there i got a full page of a photo thing here and it was all about the fact that i said that we got the blueprint for this vaccine from the communist chinese specifically by the way from the wuhan lab that's where we got the blueprint let's be very clear here and yet we're giving it to all these people and nobody's reporting this and it wasn't hard to find this out so yeah so i got really slammed by npr on this one i mean

But actually, and I had Devin Nunez's lawyer actually ask me if I wanted to sue them for defamation. And I said, no. I said, no. I don't really have any downside here. And he was saying it'll be out there forever. But I said, you know.

The best thing that happened to me about this was my kids treat me with more respect. You know, they said, damn, mom, you got a hit piece by NPR all to yourself. I thought it was kind of cool. So the problem is that they are, and that's another way they're crafting our world. So I want to say that it still uses some old-fashioned news You know, knee breaking.

stuff and remember when um wasn't it technology so technology helps them do that but remember the story in fact you got me on to this guy uh who's the guy that wrote propaganda

from the Tavistock Institute. Dr. John Coleman. No, no, the guy who was a Tavistock graduate. who then wrote the book Propaganda. Edward Bernays. Yeah, Edward Bernays, okay. So when he is the founder of today's modern propaganda machine known as Netflix. Yeah, yeah, right. So again, it's a small world. But Edward Benet was being hired by the cigarette industry to get women smoking.

And so he hired, it was his secretary, that famous story about the Macy's parade and this woman goes out and very boldly in public, scandalously smokes a cigarette in front of everybody. And everybody thought it was spontaneous. It was his secretary. And her friends came out and joined her and it became a movement completely artificially created. So the news is always done. Remember the Maine, that was a thing for the Spanish-American War and Teddy Roosevelt.

charge up the hill, up San Juan Hill. All that stuff was made up by the news. Yeah. That's a propaganda by Edward Bernays. You can't make it up that his relatives, what is it, his great nephew is the... His nephew is Mark Randolph Bernays, who's the founder of Netflix. Of Netflix. Although, it's kind of fun. Yes, yes, yes, that's the ad. Secretary, yeah, Philip Morris.

And then, of course, there's the complete falsification of photography which makes it that's what's really hard because they know that visual sim visual pictures are much more much more impactful than words and the one i got i became aware of just recently was I don't know if we have a picture of it, of the downed Indian combat jet. They had a big article about Pakistan shooting down an Indian jet. but

And again, I didn't find this on American News. I found this on the PMC Wagner site in Russia. But when you get to it, essentially what they, yeah, there it is. There's the picture of the plane. And what they said is that it looks good. It looks right on the first, but he says one of the most viral false claims concerned the alleged downing of an Indian, oh, it's a rough foul. Aircraft however that's pronounced.

At first glance the image published online seemed convincing but a detailed forensic analysis showed a different story. It revealed several signs of manipulation, cloned areas indicating repeated patterns. Inconsistent brightness levels revealed by error rate analysis and abrupt changes in lighting

within the brightness gradient. These inconsistencies clearly indicated a digital forgery. The forensic trail also suggests the image was edited using several software tools known for photo manipulation such as GIMP.

Paint.net and IrfanView. I'm not sure about the last one. I don't know about it. Resaving and editing has further compromised its authenticity. Yeah. So, yeah, interesting. It's an interesting article. And it... yeah so yeah i was trying to find the site because the site is actually just about that their site is about deconstructing the photographs to make sure that you're not getting how do we detect forgery made up photographs. I know they can make anything. Yes.

Yeah. I mean, even the videos look very real. Yeah. The people just totally made up. There was a one. This was actually really hilarious. I saw it was like a short clip of a baby and a dog doing a podcast. but yeah and they're talking and like the baby was kind of like so you know we we both live in this household and we you know with these big people It's like we share the big people. You know, people come in all different colors and shapes and sizes. But you.

You're different. That's just terrible. He's like, I don't understand. And he was talking about like, you know, when he goes, he just goes in like his diaper. And the dog's like, yeah, I have to wait. I don't understand. Now that's the good side of the technology. There's some really clever things coming out.

But, you know, they're good. But the point is, like, they can make that, you know, kind of, obviously, we know that that's not real. But they can, it's so lively. They can do that with humans. They can actually make, you know, videos that are.

Quite believable. Well, and that is also, you know, that's one of the things that I think the people are worried about that are big celebrities. Like, you know, somebody that's... telling just out there telling something that You think it's right. But it could actually be made up. And then it could be a talent, it could be a, what do I want to say, like a hack against you personally. They could have you, Courtney Turner, saying something you didn't say.

It could make you look like an idiot. And we wouldn't know. Most people wouldn't know it isn't you or me. For Anna to try and sell like a diet product. It went viral. It was all, at least all over Instagram. And it was this video of her talking about like her. I can't see this, but, oh, oh, there, yeah. What was it you were talking about, though? Oh, it was Jennifer Aniston. Oh, and she didn't do it. No, she didn't. It was to sell some sort of, like, diet program or...

Yeah, I don't remember specifically what it was, but it wasn't what she said at all. Like they manipulated her voice. And yeah, but if you really watch it, you can tell that she wasn't actually saying what it sounded like she was saying. I can tell because I can read lips. I could see that it wasn't quite right, but a lot of people fell for it. Right, and that's one person in a single setting. Now, why do you think that's why the movie people all...

want to have a strike about this because they can make movies now without the actors. They can take all their data. We talked about this. They totally fell for it. They signed away their name, likeness, and image. And they were all excited because they were going to get royalty. And you realize your short-term success is going to be a long-term potential loss and complete eradication of your entire industry. and it is I you know and it was bad enough when they went to cartoon movies and

Pixar and things like that, that they didn't need actors. But now they can do it with guys that look like Tom Cruise that aren't Tom Cruise. I think that's already been done, personally. Some of them were fighting against it, but then when they did the resolution, the contract, it essentially meant that they would get residuals for it.

And so a lot of the actors were championing it. They were super excited. I'm like, so you get a residual and now you've signed away your name, image, and likeness. Like you're done. They can now use you and you get paid a little bit. They don't need you anymore. You've just given it away.

Well, okay, so now back to our history. This also goes to... I mean, they can redo old movies to make them look like they weren't true. What I would say to everybody right now is Do not get rid of any old books. I don't care how useless you think they are because they're the only things. that we can rely on. I think it's pretty scary that the Library of Congress, for example,

decided that, you know, before I can't remember when it came in, but I want to say it was early 1800s. They got away from linen paper and they went to this pulp-based paper. which is acidic and breaks down at some point, and they're having crumbling of these old, that's the story anyway, these old books are crumbling.

Now, I have some 1890s, 1880s books that aren't crumbling, but that doesn't mean it's not true. Maybe they're just not old enough. But that being the case, what they're saying is they're digitizing the books in the Library of Congress. And my concern about that is twofold. One is it can change things. I cite the 13th Amendment that the British burned after 1812. So we don't realize that we don't have the right 13th Amendment, which was about titles of nobility.

But it's going to affect science, it's going to affect literature, everything, if they do that. And people say, well, but it would maintain the integrity of the book. And no, even if it did, can you play an Edison gramophone? So yeah, the technology we have today, how many can people play a beta tape? So this whole thing, our whole reality can be changed like this. It's not a small point.

Yeah. Oh, no. I think books are definitely, people need to save the book. Maps, map books. I found an old, here's one. My friend got an old plant map from our county. from 1876, I believe it was. Now, at that time we had 10,000 people in the whole county.

But he found that it listed by race, by genealogy, like how many people had come, how many people were foreign born, or how many people's parents were foreign born. It had all these statistics. In our county of 10,000 people, there were 1,600 militia members.

Wow. Because militia, which everybody says, oh, militia, you know, they make it sound like, you know, this is the neo-Nazis. No, militia was the police force. It was instead of having... paid cops you had civilian militia civilian and they were there for emergencies they were there to respond when there were problems you know And so it's interesting that what everybody wants to reject now was the standard. Yeah. We only know that because of that book. We were not told that anywhere else.

Right. Yeah, no, I think that when we digitize everything, there is convenience in being able to do keyword search for research. It is. But yeah, they can change it and make it, you know, they can change anything. And, you know, they can curate narratives that way. And now you don't have anything to fact check it against the Internet. Maybe that should be a somebody write a book, The New Burning of Alexandria. Remember they asked, why did the Alexandria Library burn?

If it did, or it's sitting in the basement of the Vatican, who knows? But the story goes that they burned the Alexandria Library. Why would you do that at a day when it was very difficult? Handwritten books, why would anybody do that? They were precious. They were like gold. I know. I was very upset that the Theosophical Society in Hasidina, it wasn't now in Hasidina actually, but that they burned down because all those...

They said they digitized, so we don't know the veracity of the digitization or what they might have changed. But I also don't know if they were able to keep like a lot of the letters, you know, like handwritten letters. Yeah, a convenient thing to burn down. I mean, how many, you know, and it is interesting because how many in the age of modern technology, fire tech suppression, you know, brick buildings, things like that, how many of them burned down?

You know, that's kind of odd. This one burned down. This was recent. Yeah, I was pretty much research on and I read the primary sources of the theosophist. Yeah, I like to be able to have like their actual words. Yeah.

So that was kind of sad. I know a lot of people were chatting and saying, well, good, you know, like that, that should be burned down. Like, yeah, well, you want to have the information should never be lost. No. Yeah. And actually, I was on a podcast today with Thomas Mayer, who is a...

You know, a student of Rudolf Steiner, essentially. I mean, he wasn't a personal student. I'm just saying he's a group that studies all that. And they've been looking at the result of the vaccine psychosocially on people and whether it actually changes your consciousness. and your connection to the creator kind of thing they're looking at.

And it was interesting what he had to say. But, you know, that's what Rudolf Steiner said in, what, 1912? I can't remember when Steiner, yeah. That's an excellent interview. I'll get it up on Rumble here soon. You know, he quoted Rudolf Steiner who, you know, remember predicted that there would come a day when, what did he call physicians? He called, he called it, meaning. Mechanical based physicians physicians that weren't involved in spiritual work at all, but just about you know

the physical reality of a human being. And he said the time will come, this is what Rudolf Steirer said, the time will come when they will make vaccinations to... to remove the saw essentially. Oh, did he say that? I don't have the exact quote. I said, oh, actually I do because I happen to have Thomas Mayer's book right here. His book is COVID Vaccines from a Spiritual Perspective.

It's hard to get a hold of him because he's in Germany, so he can't do certain things. But yeah, the book starts with a Rudolf Steiner. It says, this is from lectures given on November 6, 1917. And it said, People will be inoculated against their disposition towards spiritual ideas. The materialistic physicians, that's what he called them, the materialistic physicians will be entrusted with the task of expelling the souls from mankind.

So I think a lot of what we think that Steiner said is not necessarily what he said, again, because it's coming to us. a lot of times secondhand not everybody does primary research like you do and now it's now it's going to be harder and harder it's going to be easier for them to change what somebody said for sure clean it up if they don't like it He created the Wilder School.

I'm sorry? The Waldorf schools. Oh, okay. Yeah. Well, I just learned how to pronounce anthropos... I could never say it. Anthropos... That's it, yeah. Anthroposophy, which is, it's just kind of a weird... It's so weird. It's made up, it's a weird word. Because areosophy was... That was the branch that Hitler... was inspired by Blavatsky. So Steiner also broke off from Blavatsky. So it's all these different little, you know, splinters from theosophy, from Madame Blavatsky's doctrine.

And yeah, so I always want to say areosophy, but it's. Anthroposophy. Anthroposophy. Anthroposophy. It doesn't look right. Anthroposophically inspired work. Anthroposophy. So, yeah. And then it gets even harder when you get to the anthroposophical society. But again, the point is, is that keep your old book.

Yeah. Because the more we have in print, even, you know, even here's an interesting one. It's not really great philosophy or anything, but old cook bar.

so i noticed this years ago when i got a new my mother from years ago had a betty crocker cookbook and so she gave me a betty crocker cookbook when i went off to college i was living in a place and cooking for myself and so she And then, but then there was a new edition that came out after that in the, in the seventies or early eighties that I was going to give to my son when I, when he went off and I saw it and it's all using junk food.

You know, the original Betty Crocker used real ingredients. Fresh fruits and fresh blah, blah, blah. But now you used a can of this and a box of this and artificial, not mayonnaise, you used salad dressing. Everything was... you know, crap, for lack of a better word. Margarine or corn oil. Yeah, there you go. The middle one was my mother's book, and I still have it. Oh, wow. From the 1950s.

so they're totally trying to like mess with that too that's crazy yeah so they you know but they're they think they're just modernizing with the times but what you're losing is the ability to cook real food for real people as the western a prize people say Yeah, or to even know what the original ingredients were. Right. It changes people's perspective. It changes their property tunnel. It normalizes eating garbage, for one thing. Yes. Because they use these type of books in the...

in the whole mech classes in school and all sorts of things. Yeah, yeah.

Well, I think that's probably a good segue because I feel like... The whole thing that's going on with Casey Means is also like propaganda, multilayered. And I know a lot of like she really resonates with a lot of the Maha crowd because she keeps talking about.

The problems with pharmaceuticals, you know, like there's that clip of her where she keeps saying how, you know, there's no medication that's ever cured diabetes or cured Alzheimer's. There's no medication that's ever cured anything. And they all have side effects. which is, I mean, most people in that movement agree, right? Most people who are supporting Maha would agree with that statement. But I think what they also don't realize is that there's a, she's like.

She's got this levels company. Her and her brother are both into health tech, which is all data mining. Well, and she's like a CFR family, right?

I think she is. My friends that have been paying attention to, I'm not good at knowing who's who here, but my friends in the medical community say things like, Well, you know, that's great that she's saying some of these things now, but people need to realize that she wasn't around saying this when we were 20 years ago, that this is suddenly a new, these new people showing up on the block.

and becoming the duty experts. And that was the concern. I mean, I can't say one way or another, I don't know her, but I'm just saying that is the concern is that It's right out of Eustace Mullins' book on the world order, a study on the hegemony of parasitism, that whatever group you're in, if it starts to get traction and they're worried about you, the world order will put their people in there.

Yeah. Well, I think it's very multi-layered because you have like the people who are into the holistic. And then you've got the people who are, you know, obviously the more mainstream are going to support the big pharma. But then you've got this whole technocracy movement. And so they're trying to, I feel like whether or not she's aware of it, I don't know. I don't know if she's like aware.

but she's being utilized and it's very clear and I see the same thing happening with RFK too but this is how I feel like with the digital media, how propaganda gets very, like the psychological warfare landscape just gets very complicated. It's totally messed up. And the problem is, is that

You know, I can't sort it out. People even, I mean, knowing the medical issues here, I can't sort it out because knowing about Robert Kennedy for years, I mean, the problem is this is like spy versus spy versus spy versus spy. You don't know, is she a double agent? Is she really what she is? Is she being played? You don't know who people are because it's such a deep game.

But I can see what the agenda is. So I'm less concerned about who the players are. I feel like what they do is they keep people... They keep people in the cult of personality level. So people want to be like, this is my guy. I trust them. I can kind of outsource all my thinking. We'll just cheer for my guy, my girl, whatever. And then you have all these groups, these various cults fighting each other.

So I'm a lot less interested in that. I'm looking at the tactics and the agenda. And what I see is a lot, and this is very similar to what happened with the medical freedom loop. I think the Overton window gets shifted because you get a little banner around it. It's a little bow. You get the label. And I feel like what's happening is all these like holistic people who are anti big pharma. are now being kind of enticed to

track all their data, you know, what her company is glucose monitoring. So this is, this is data they really want because as you know, glucose monitoring, right? But then the other side of even that is, and I said this to somebody about the Q movement, about Q posts and things, I said, Is your position that intelligence disinformation or intelligence, the intelligence services can only be used by the bad guy? Because here's the other side of what you just said is yes

she might not be the real deal. And I'm picking on her, and I apologize to Dr. Means if none of this is true. We don't pick on a lot of people here. Elon Musk, for example. Yeah, it doesn't matter who we pick here. That person may or may not be who they pretend to be or who they think they are or being used for the purpose they think because... what if it's just about disclosure so for example there's a there's a point like trump a lot of times you think

oh he's you know he's totally in the tank for whatever it is and then he does something that shows that he's not necessarily true and but it just disclosed all that so and i'm not saying that's so And it reminds me, I couldn't think of the name of it when we were talking pre-programmed.

There was a Soviet program in the KGB that was about this kind of intelligence warfare, disinformation warfare. And it was hiring people to be spies, counter-spies. giving them fake identities, distorting the news. It was all the things that we're talking about. And at the end of the day, when the Soviet Union fell around 1991, and the Russians are trying to deconstruct what had happened to them over 70 years,

They went into these old KGB files. I think, I can't remember, I was going to say Lubyanka, but I may not have been there, wherever it was. And they looked at this stuff. for a long time. And at the end of the day, the last I heard was they couldn't figure out who was who and who was doing what and for what purpose. It was so confusing. It had even confused the confusers.

Yeah, yeah. We have to keep this in mind that the intelligence services can be used for so many ways and in such a deep play that you just can't figure it out.

But there's one thing that you can do, and that is escape to reality. I will tell you, all the things we've been talking about, even about fiat currency, it only makes a sense If you're in a false kind of artificial reality where you're getting your news on TV, it's like the joke about, how do you get rid of this COVID fear? Easy, click, turn off the TV.

You know, there was a meme that was put out about what would you do today if suddenly there was no electricity, no internet, no cell phone? What would your first act be? And I'm thinking tonight on my podcast, I'm going to ask people, I'm going to show that meme, I'm going to ask them to put in the chat what their first act would be. Because what I've thought about, I had that happen to me. It was, we had a big snowstorm at the end of the winter here.

And all these power lines went down. And from like 10 o'clock in the morning, we had no power until 10 o'clock at night. We didn't know if it was even going to come on for days. Right. But you know what? It's like we live in the country. So we don't, we wouldn't have to run to the grocery store and buy bread and milk like everybody's doing. I mean, we can food. We have a garden. We have.

We have animals, we have things, we have wood. It's like the Amish. We're kind of a low-level Amish, you know, where we are. And most people in my area to some degree are like that. The problem is we have these huge mega cities now where people never go outside. They live in Silicon. And so all this is more important to them. This is ultimately the way out is we have to get back to the real world, what we can see and touch and not this abstract.

Video I agree and it will need to get out of there. You know a little algorithmic echo chamber Because I feel like what goes on in these various social media platforms, it ends up replacing reality television. So you're just watching. That's why I say it's not the people. The characters don't matter as much. It's the ideas and the tactics and the agendas and how that's all playing out. But what happens is people get caught up in the fights. It's like, it's like watching wrestling.

And, you know, you've been in this world for a little longer than I have, I think. But anyway, you were talking about one time, you said to me you were worried about this whole trad. trad wife they all want. And remember I said, what's a trad wife? And then I went to my neighbors. I asked them, I said, do you know what a trad wife is?

Nobody in my area knew what a trash life was. Now, I'm sure the people out there do, but we didn't because we just don't completely live in that world. Exactly. Yeah. And what's happening is that they're, and especially the younger generation, even people who are not in the city is like they're, but they're living online. That's right. And that's what I'm saying. It's not about.

They're creating, they're extrapolating that world into the real world. They're projecting it into the real world. They don't have any kind of a sense of reality. And so they project what they're learning online out to the real world. A little dangerous. Well, and even people in the city that didn't used to be this way either. You know, they had open air markets and they would be out on the street talking to people. Have you seen that number about that people don't go out anymore?

It's a pretty shocking graph about how I don't know who monitors this, but about how many people leave their home and go do things. And it was like way up there forever. And then when COVID hit, it became zero. Now it's just very much inched up, but it's not up here again. Most people had to leave to go to their jobs. And now so many people work from home that they don't have to. Yeah, and a lot of people don't end up leaving.

And that's very concerning. Yeah, it's very concerning. And it's one more thing that got us. And that's why I wonder about, you know, some of this aspect that even he talks about it not being completely. from a an individual thing, but more part of it is the spiritual aspect of being disconnected from other humans. that we went through a terrible time and it disconnected us and we haven't gotten completely reconnected.

Well, I think what they're trying to do is we're disconnected, but they're trying to use technology to connect us so that we don't, in order to create kind of like a collective spirituality, a collective intelligence. They're trying to create a noosphere type of a layer using the technology, but without having real humans interact.

which is if that graph goes down continues to go down then we're in better shape but i have to say it's not going down fast no one that he just put up i know no people are still yeah

They're not getting out and about because they don't need to. And then with the 15-minute cities, they barely need to. so they get out for a little bit but everything's at some point we probably need to do an update on what what's going on with this 15-minute city i mean i part of me sees some things and part of me thinks that maybe there's enough people standing up that they want they wouldn't live in one

Yeah, well, even in China, they couldn't get them to live in it. That's what I was thinking about. I think that was a very good sign. They were like, yeah, no. But yeah, we probably should do an update on it because I know that they're pushing it. But I think what they're going to push is the network state. So this way, people feel like they're opting into it. It's not like a 15-minute city where you're having everything be surveilled. You're choosing your ideological network state.

Right. Yeah. It's like that city. I don't know what this is a picture of, but remember that city that's being built, I think, in Saudi Arabia, isn't it? I think it's Saudi Arabia. The big wall city? I know what you're talking about. I don't know. It looks like this huge silver wall through the desert. He showed it to me so many times. I would be claustrophobic to live there, but there are people that would like that.

Yeah, but this is different because it's really online. So Bitcoin Nation, BitNation, they've already done it. They did it over a decade ago. And, you know, Peter Thiel is doing his Prospera. It used to be Vitalia, but now he calls it Infinita. the, you know, transhuman, like, longevity cities. But he has these, like, you know, digital currency cities. And these network states, yeah, the city never dies.

So there's all of these types of cities that are being promoted. And I think people perceive them as being freedom minded. It's being very heavily marketed to libertarians. But I think it's a trap. It's going to be kind of decentralized the way that H.G. Wells talked about decentralization being the conduit for the world brain.

So this is not a real city. It says a real city, but this is a city, an electronic city where you can go and shop and do things and connect. Yeah, they're building infrastructures for people who are, yeah. who are members of it. Right. Yeah. Though, like Casey is doing, I think the press fair is in Honduras. So this is really kind of a takeoff. It's like maybe this was step two. Maybe step one was what they marketed to the teenagers in my kids' generation. I mean, this is now 10, 15 years ago.

where they would play online games with people from all over the world. Yes. That was step one, maybe. No, I think absolutely. It's gamified, right?

They're, so they, yeah, this is the, this is Prospera. What are you doing? So yeah, you're, you kind of, you opt in and it is every, and they want to create like tokenized everything. I've been diving into something called Game B. which is actually based on that. It's totally game theory. It's all, you know, you want to create a tokenized and the intellectual dark web was actually largely kind of like an influence operation to build this concept of game B.

I used to speculate that, but I've actually got a document from Andrew Cohen pretty much saying that. He pretty much admits that. I mean, he was pretty proud of it. It wasn't very covert at all. But yeah, I think that that's exactly right. I think they're creating these virtual realities through video games and enticing the younger generation into this. But with these kind of digital currency, ideological, the network states, they're based on a concept that we call seasteading.

So seasteading was something that Peter Thiel put $1.7 million into. And it's actually, it kind of has a similar theme to like a... uh what was it called uh paramar you know oh yeah yeah yeah yeah these uh you know you would have it on uh like international waters So they're outside the jurisdiction of any kind of national borders. But it didn't go well. It wasn't very successful. And so this is Balaji Srinivasan, wrote a book called The Network State. And he was the former CEO of Coinbase.

And he has, in his book on the network stage, he's actually got a whole chapter on seasteading and says seasteading was the inspiration for creating this concept of the network state.

But the concept behind the network state is to create a dissolution of a geographical nation state. in things like ideological type of online communities and it creates communitarianism so yes it's online but of course what happens if people have to live and eat and you know do things right so

They create infrastructures for those people. And I just think it's very concerning because this is what they're going to sell you as, okay, you don't want to live in our top-down, authoritarian, you know, 15-minute city. That's okay. You can opt into these network states or Trump's freedom cities, and it's essentially the same thing. You think they don't require, like, visual passports and, you know. Do they have police in these cities?

I'm sure it's probably an AI, I believe. I don't want to get there. I had this vision of, could you, like the guys that go into a city and rob stores for a living, could you do that in this? Yeah, you'd probably have some sort of like, you know, AI police, like, you know, come handcuff you or something. Or just not allow your entrance, right? Because you have to have digital.

ID in order to enter. That's coming through, I can tell you, my own experience. That is already here to a certain degree. So if you want to anonymously buy... Bitcoin or anything else now. You have to fill out government forms like a W-9 that give all your data. You can't do it anonymously unless you buy it on a private purchase from somebody who is willing to do that. So that's the scam. I believe in the black market.

You know, every time there's one of these top-down authoritarian controls or something, somebody in the black market pops up to supply the demand. So if people want to buy certain things that they can't, they will be able to probably find somebody to be their intermediary. I think that's true. But my concern is the network states are going to be sold as like this black market.

It's like you have freedom. Right, right. It's sold as the freedom, but it's not. That's my concern with it. I'm sure there are genuine freedom minded people who are, you know, thinking this way and trying to create those.

That's my concern. I think that H.G. Wells kind of laid out the blueprint of what it will really be. You know, he said when he talked about. the decentralization he was talking about the decentralization of academic institutions you know the information centers but that that was back then today that's the internet so And so he said that it would be all decentralized, but that decentralization would be the conduit to create the world brain, which was all interconnected. It's a noosphere.

And that's my concern with what's going on with all of this is that people think it's decentralized, which means you have like sovereignty, but I think it's essentially, if you have interoperability, I don't know how you have sovereignty.

I guess that's it for this week, but I think we ought to explore this a little bit more in the future with the city, with this concept and see where it's going. I actually have somebody that I know is setting one of these up. Now his has a real component, theoretically. Okay. But maybe he could come on and talk to us. Yeah, that would be kind of interesting. And then we could voice those concerns because.

Not when he was telling me about it. I didn't appreciate what you just said. I mean that it's really That would be great to put a bug in his ear. Aware. What we need is actually some kind of Amish light. We need the Amish from the non-Amish to actually... break away there's plenty of land and we need to have you know that's our real problem is we can't have these technocrats buying up all the land we need to have people that want to escape this and own land not have to

Not be I mean not pay $200,000 for a little plot. That's what we need So and then we can people can just take care of themselves and have an interact in real world. Yes Anyway, thanks for joining us. Thank you. Yeah, myredlight.com. Yeah, and then R&C Store, Medical Rebel Shop. And yeah, myredlight.com, promo code dangerous, defy the grid. Yes, promo code dangerous on all of them. What? All right This podcast is a part of the C-Suite Radio Network.