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There you go . How was that ? Oh wait , I didn't see this . Hi , everyone Just coming from watching Tom's follow-up video on the prompter Great job . That seemed like it was a good video .

The timing of that was so weird because normally so . My most recent video on my channel came out yesterday and it's a 100-day follow-up on the Elgato prompter , which is something we're using right here .

The stars totally aligning yeah it's all coincidence .

It seems like beautiful corporate marketing synergy . And it is absolutely not , but that was really cool . And then the funnier part too was oh here's this . After literally I was done filming that video , I had shut down my studio , I was importing the footage to edit it on Wednesday , and then this got delivered .

I don't know if you guys know about the tea with this thing .

The Padcast is the Parrot Pro . This was a Kickstarter item that I backed back in I don't know April or May Last spring . It was supposed to be delivered in July . You might notice that it's February right now . It is a Kickstarter , you're not buying it from a store , so there were a lot of Kickstarter issues with that .

Did you backed that thing ?

up . I backed that thing up back when I was thinking about whether to teleprompter or not .

Not knowing , my brain is turning into yours now , sorry .

We've been living together a long , long time . I didn't know at the time that the Elgato Promptor was going to be a thing , and then that came out in September . Still hadn't gotten this one , immediately ordered that one Because you can't cancel your Kickstarter , which I totally would .

Yeah , it makes sense .

So yeah , that's there . And it's funny because I was like , oh man , I feel so bad for this product , but it seems nice enough , so I'm going to try to Right . But now that there's a comparison product , it's like I'm not using it in my studio for sure Mobile , but if there's ever a need for mobile scripting , yeah , we're not bringing .

I mean mobile , yeah . Yeah , but it's not a thing that we have really ever had a need for hey , you know who knows .

But now that it's an option . You never know .

Yeah , All right , call me Cubby in the house . Patricia is here . Hello , hello , Sammy Superstar , what's up ? Nick is really considering that teleprompter .

I feel like it would really help your recording sessions , Nick , but I also feel so I can also imagine you getting frustrated as you're setting it up .

Yeah , you also need to have it has to be connected to a computer .

And there's an adjustment period and it's a little , it's not finicky , it's just like you have to install the app and do some permissions and things in your computer that are like a little unusual .

If it hasn't been a pain point for you , then I don't think that you need it .

The thing is though I never thought I would have a teleprompter as a permanent part of my setup , and I love it so much .

Yeah , well , there you go , everybody that's . I mean , I love my , I never take it off , it's just always on there .

Yeah , there's no need to remove it .

Yeah , it is just confused . So where do you look ? I know I talk about this every stream . Where do you look ?

So when we're using it like this as a reference monitor , I kind of don't think about it , because it's far enough away where , unless you know , someone's looking at a prompter . Like if I look at anything on the screen it looks like I'm like at the camera , but I do see the lenses shightiness in the middle , so I kind of look at that .

Yeah , like right here .

Yeah .

That's what I look at .

But a really cool thing about the video I made yesterday , the product designer from Elgato commented on it , along with like one of their software developers . So not just like the Elgato brand account , but like the people who work on the products , which is really , really cool . And the software .

No one else would see it , but it's just something for you to look at , which is a great idea . Remember , hit that like button . Yeah , home sick . Max says , to be fair to the couple , heather could run any TV show . I know , there you go . Pete says I got the padcaster to before the Elgato was available . You might say I have some regrets .

I mean , what's the price comparison ? Well see , I don't even remember , because the Kickstarter one , I think it was like 130 . But then shipping ended up being like another $30 , which was like , no , it's the good deals .

So okay . So Nick says I only script short form and ads , If you are , if you are someone who reads from a script like it is life .

Yeah .

Because then how else are you doing it ? You know , like how do you read from a script without a teleprompter ? Unless you did what I did , which is you look at you know , you look at your outline , you kind of memorize what you're about to say and then you go back to the camera .

That's what I did for you . Yeah , but I would always .

I'll let me tell you it . Cut the because I use it for client videos word for word . Read the script and the raw footage .

Yeah , less than half of what it used to be . For me it's insane . It's a huge difference . Yeah , the padcaster it comes in this little . You know they did a nice job on it , so it's like I don't even know if I'm going to make a video about it , because I think so many people have such a bad taste from the Kickstarter .

Okay , so we're going to do Spar lab's asking for the second camera to show what we're looking at .

Sure .

But I think we should show this too Sure , so I hope audio does not cut out .

Oh , I'll , I'll . I can try to adjust the scene if it does .

Okay .

So here's it says are we audio ? Scarlett two I two audio yeah . Okay , let me show the prompter first .

Oh boy , that's the microphone .

Here we are so here .

let me step back . I mean that prop your prompter , so you can see .

Yeah , so we're hi .

Tom , hello , so , yeah , yeah . So when it's this reference thing here like what do we look at ?

you know , that's the . That's the tricky thing . When it's a script or a video call , it's very obvious what to look at . But when it's not that , then it's less obvious . Yeah , and then that's . And then there's this little one here . It does have a tripod mount on the bottom , so you might want to tripod and basically you can see what you're looking at .

You know the more traditional one where you put your phone in the back , so it reflects your phone onto the thing and as you put your script onto the phone , they do have .

They do have an app they do have , which I haven't used yet , and it does come with a little kind of a chintzy . Well , actually , I have it right here it's . It comes with a little Bluetooth remote that you can , you know , like , stop and advance the script with , and stuff , so you know if you're doing something portable .

Yeah , so okay , if you didn't here's , here's what the prompter . Where did you go ? Ndi , okay , oh , there , okay . So let me switch back really quick . So this monitor is part of the Elgato prompter , right Like this whole thing right here .

That's the key to me .

Yeah , so you don't have to use a phone , an iPad or whatever . It comes with a monitor and then you can change what you see on the screen to be whatever you want . We're using it as a , as a , a third monitor right now . So , you see , I could just drag whatever .

Well , congrats , yay , on all of those things I know

I currently use duet and it has a logo which tells me where to look . Oh yeah , that's smart . Hey , kev , what's up ? Jfk in the house , what's up ? Uh , mr Cameron . He says I use them to place the zoom calls into my teleprompter area so that creates a face to face environment . That's where it's like perfect .

Remote live casting .

Yeah , you know where you're actually . It looks like you're talking to somebody .

Yeah , Because it's just you just look at them and talk and it's great .

Yeah , um , let's see . I don't script live streams , but often present from slides , so having the feed on the screen is great for being able to refer to the slides while keeping camera in contact .

Yeah , yeah , exactly .

Is YouTube just one giant advertising billboard ?

No , I mean , that's a big question , right .

Yeah , I mean , it's not as much of a giant advertising billboard as , like Instagram .

Oh yeah .

Uh , but I guess it depends on the channel .

I mean YouTube make YouTube as a platform makes money from advertising ? Yeah , If they make money at all YouTube channels that advertise things . There's such variety , you know , like some yes , some no , and I would say some niches are more prone to it than others .

Yeah , yeah , and I think that there are people whose channels don't make advertising money at all or they don't make money from advertising at all you know , cause they sell like courses or whatever . So I guess technically they're advertising their course . But yeah , all right . Uh , rainy Cajun is here .

That's a good one . I'm excited . I'm excited to see where they take their software , because it seems like they're going to add in some pretty nifty features .

Yeah , Uh , homesick . I reason for getting the prompt is to avoid moving away from the subject . I kind of distract myself and talk way more than I should . So the script right in front of me should help .

Yes , Even bullet points , like if it's not a full on script , but you just do the bullet points at least you know , like oh my God what happened Sorry . What order to talk in , what order to to to cover things in .

Sometimes I finish a video and I'm like wait was there something really important that I was supposed to . I wish I could do that .

It depends on the subject , but for my regular videos I usually don't like . You know , I don't like reading a script for the most part .

Uh , audio hotline says I have the Padcaster V2 . I hated it and never used it . Now I love . I have the Elgato and I love it .

Yes , corey is sparkly Mike .

Like in the sparkly Mike .

Reporter storecom . There's our advertising billboard .

World . According to Briggs , I have probably owned four different prompters . Elgato is my fave . I did a voiceover job a month ago and they had some crazy 4k prompter $4,000 prompter . Yeah , yeah , um , I don't I tennis like you've no idea .

How much has ?

Elgato won 280 . So what's the $4,000 difference ?

This is . You remember , the ones that were in like the broadcast studio at my old school stuff .

Oh , like though , like the super heavy rolls on the ground .

No , no , no , no , just the . They're just the prompt . They're basically just this . It's a bigger version of this .

So why is it ? What part is costing $4,000 ?

It's a great question . I think historically it's been because where else are you gonna go Wow , it's like diamonds .

Okay , and historically also .

It's those came out when , like small flat panel things were less common , so you'd have a bigger . They have a bigger screen , maybe a 15 or a 20 inch screen , and then the mirror , like a high quality mirror , and the shroud and everything , but you still have to put them on .

It's just the same thing . It's just the compter part .

Okay , let's see , so it has a much sturdier area to mount the camera onto , because it doesn't weigh too heavy to hang off a camera's lens .

Right .

And the monitors usually have more built-in stuff , more in outports , more menu controls and things , but they are , that's just they're . I think for a long time it was . There's no other option .

Real about room . It will make the detour . Also . Everyone feel free to make the detour , Like that's what it's for .

Oh , that's right .

Did the huddle up get postponed ? Yes , because I woke up with a sore throat and it didn't get worse .

It didn't but a couple of weeks ago I woke up with a sore throat and then it turned into COVID .

It has not gotten worse and tests are negative , but I was like you know what I'm just gonna not , so plan is next week . Stay tuned . Yes , yeah , also , tom and I fixed Just Create More , so I will definitely post it in there . If you want to check out Just Create More , it's at JustCreateMorecom . This is our community for other content creators .

If you've already been in it , you don't have to do anything . It just might look a little different . We tried , to like , simplify it .

So when you sign , in and there's a place .

It's all just kind of like everything just right here .

You don't have to go to like different areas for things . Yeah , maybe next couple of days we can do a little tour . Sure , yeah . And then I'm hey , all man , I wish I had the bullet point talent . I'm scripty , scripty , word for word or doesn't , doesn't work . That's how . Because it's like am I reading or am I not reading ? How do you have these ?

I think it's teaching , it's the lesson . When I used to do lesson plans I always had like originally it was this very nice like printed paper , and then eventually turned it into an index card with some bullet points on it and it was just kind of on my desk and I would just know like look at the next thing , and then you just go the next thing .

And then , historically , I am a .

Yeah , Cause you can't . You know , you can't transpose like a menu thing or a setting or something .

Yeah , yeah , like those , like if I were doing an e-cam tutorial , well , I don't know , it's hard because I would just describe it , but If you're doing like a technical review and you need to have like I don't know how Tom does it . It's quite the talent , it's very .

Honestly it was . It was teaching . It was not a thing I could do before , but years of teaching helped build up the skill , which is cool .

You don't have to do that while you're teaching , though .

What bullet points .

No like .

Not be word for word , but you have to hit certain points and Cause I Hots will be aware of your audience and he's on the couch with a laptop , typing it like sentences with periods , not , you know . Bullet point to me is like oh , my teaching bullet points were yeah , my bullet points teaching would literally be like FCP export .

And then I know I need to spend 15 minutes talking about how to export from Final Cut Pro . Yeah , that's what I'm talking about , bullet point . That's how I did it , but your , your outline is like it's like scroll through the notes that many times .

Well , sometimes I do scripty things , but my bullet points are more complete sentences because I try to get the thought out there , but it doesn't mean I'm going to say or include all of that .

It's like See , that's so hard . I have the idea .

I wrote it out . So there's my thought . The thought is there , but as I go through it as a bullet point , sometimes I combine them , merge them , go on a tangent or whatever . I don't know my brain's weird .

Yeah , so you guys didn't miss the huddle up next Wednesday .

That's Valentine's Day . Well , we're kicking it off on the day I was feeling guilty though , because I was going to be here in the middle and now I don't feel guilty ?

We don't . It's just a fact .

We should do something for Valentine's Day , but at you know , between 12 and 3 pm we won't be doing this on Valentine's Day . Tom's going to play

Nick says I find bullet points of my main topics on my phone that I refer to , and then I just make it up as I go on Too Lazy Descript .

Honestly though , I feel like yeah , there's nothing wrong with that you have it down ?

Yeah , like it's not . That's why , if it isn't a pain point , right Like I have talked to many people who have YouTube channels and it's this like a lot of them wish they had us a place where they can read the script in front of them . If that is , you definitely get . This is the best prompter like on the market .

No , I've used many , there's not .

Yeah , but if you're not , you know , if you're fine , you don't need it , yeah .

Yeah , if it ain't broke , don't fix it , you know .

Yeah , the ability to summarize information , deliver it in an entertaining way , is the ultimate skill .

Yeah , when I think of Nick too , like so much of the channel is the personality .

Yeah , yeah , Because it's not anybody could do . I don't know interior design , but it's the way that you talk about it .

And so I don't know if a script would take away from , like , the personality that pops out , kind of like we were saying , as you're going through the thought , that's when we get to see the uniqueness ?

Yeah , because then you're- .

Uniqueness . Hi cat , Yay , we're happy you're here too .

Michael , I have to do word for word or else I tend to stumble , but I do it by concept to allow for editing . Oh , that makes that's a good idea . What does that mean ?

So like everything related to this top , like so when you're editing it's like okay , everything over here .

In this chunk . In this chunk , okay , got it .

Even if it maybe , I'm guessing , is not in order of how the video's going to go .

At some point I'm going to get that proper . It's been three years and I still can't veer off a script . Wow , I thought you just talked out your videos .

Well , you're doing great there . Yeah , that's crazy , yeah .

I know .

A blender to what , yeah , you're just going to wing a blender tutorial no .

I know the one that we just watched and where he was taking care of all his plans . Oh , I mean- , yeah , I thought that was for sure Just like well , you know , I have goals and stuff . I was like , wow , the script did . Maybe in the script it says pause here for genuine moment or something .

Stupid .

Pause here for dramatic effect .

Yeah , it is something I noticed , though , when I do read script for script on a prompter is I don't let things breathe enough , because it's just- .

Yeah , you just read .

Yeah , it's like speed reading , blah , blah blah , and so it's like learning to take breaks and whatever is . Yeah , it almost like speeds things up too much and I had to learn to slow it down .

Yeah , so anyway , what else is up ? This is the creator chat episode . Oh see , he said it was scripted , wow .

So what are you ? Days away from 100K at this point .

Yes , this is my brother in genuine queue . Yeah , so Kevin is almost at 100K . Like I don't even know where you're at . You're very- . Oh , you're not going to see it because it's- .

I mean right now , this is 99.7 . Okay , yeah , so within 300- 300 subscribers of 100,000 . That's this month for sure , right .

I mean it has to be yeah . So congrats early . Congrats Panamonium Big Band . When I script out my videos too precisely , I sound robotic and it detracts from the overall vibe and my personality gets lost . Same , that's why I wouldn't use word for word for my videos . I don't think . But for client videos it actually works because it's like explaining the product .

I'm just all over the place . All the time there's like no trends .

Yeah , I haven't I don't have like enough to go off of .

Yeah , I don't know .

Okay , Corey has a question , Sorry .

I Thoughts on .

YouTube trending for longer form content . What do you mean ?

Like , is YouTube encouraging longer form .

Oh , okay , I thought you meant- .

It's almost like the pendulum is swinging . You know , like the reaction from short form now- .

Okay , so it's not like we're trying to make a long form video . Get on YouTube trending right .

Maybe I'm maybe I misunderstood it , but that's what I- .

So yeah , trapst脷bcom just got my El Gato Prompter , my only want . I wish I could just I could adjust where the monitor sits to get the best reflection . Fill the screen reflection .

Oh yeah , cause it's not it's like you saw me open the other one .

Oh , the angle is- .

This one is that the angle . But again , I get that , but I also think of like , when it's designed for so many people who've never used a Prompter before it is just yeah , you need it . As dumb as I can , it's kind of like the general optimal angle and it's just right there , like they try to make it as idiot proof as possible , right ?

OK , let's get back to this . Is it trending for longer form content ?

I don't know , but I feel like I've heard that conversation and I would definitely not mind it .

Yeah , oh , here we go . Like eight minute videos were the goal we're the goal . And now I've seen 25 minute deep explainer videos doing much better .

I've definitely seen . I've seen more long videos , like more videos of a greater length lately , but I thought I was just sort of getting into different channels where things are like 40 minutes or an hour or something . I don't know if that's a thing where people are switching .

Oh see , that's why it was eight minute videos , Because that was the shortest maximum amount for midroll ads .

Yeah , which is why , like I don't , I haven't seen this as much with the eight minute thing , which is maybe a good sign .

that bother me Well , because it because it's why are you making this video ?

You're not making this video because you want to make the video . You're making a video to kind of like . You know it could be 10 minutes and 30 seconds , it could be nine minutes and 50 seconds , but you made it .

It's hard because I don't know . You know I don't hate on it because no , do you . You .

But yeah , let's see .

Cat tipped her prompter forward . It's not parallel to the floor . Actually , I think it's my tip because mine's on a tripod where each leg is adjustable . Oh , I was going to say how would you ? I mean I don't know how you would do that without changing the camera angle . I don't know .

Interesting .

Let's see . Mark , would you recommend Elgato or Glide Gear 750 for interactive video conferencing ?

I'm going to . I had the Glide Gear 100 . I'm going to look up the 750 . I'm going to say Elgato , but let me check the Glide Gear .

Cat says my take Video should be as long as needed and no longer .

Oh , I would definitely . Oh wait , sorry , sorry , sorry , oh no , no , because the 750 , does it have .

Does it come ? Oh , it doesn't come with the white stuff , right , the silver stuff ? Yeah , I know it . No , get the Elgato .

Yeah , because this is like a tablet-based thing , unless you want a bigger surface and you want to use a tablet . But some people and I've learned this in the comments in my videos some people love using tablets and phones on their prompters and that's what they prefer . I hate it and I just will not use the prompter .

Wait . So what ? Oh wait , wait , wait . We have to make the distinction , because some people don't record to their computer , most people don't , If you're- .

I don't .

No , but like , if you don't need to plug into the computer , then you would use that because you would just record to your memory card and use your phone .

I mean , I don't record to my computer , I record to my memory card , but I use the prompter , which has to be connected to a computer but it's in a studio slash office environment .

Yeah , like if you don't have a computer- .

The Elgato prompter has to be connected to a computer , so if you're not in that situation that is a huge thing , yeah . Then it would be very frustrating to use .

Yeah , because if you're using a tablet because you don't have a computer , I mean what are you editing on ?

I don't know , I don't know they have Final Cut Pro on iPads now . Yeah yeah . So that's kind of the big thing there , I guess If you don't mind connecting it to a computer , the Elgato prompter is such a better experience . If you don't want to have to connect it to a computer , then the other one , the Glygear , is the way to go .

Ian Pindle hello from Oxford . Hey , okay , it's been a while , but lovely to see you guys . Hello , okay , I feel like we didn't finish this one though .

Yeah , the longer video thing .

The long video thing .

I mean , let me go through my subscription fee .

Okay , corey it seems like , from your perspective , videos are getting longer . I don't know if videos are getting longer for me . I don't think I would say that .

I mean just the ones you're making . No well , both the ones you're saying I'm just going through my subscription fee to have a 22-minute video .

Oh , that's a great idea . Let me do that .

An 8-minute video , a 12-minute video , I'm not counting podcasts and things . Six , 13 , an hour 15 .

45 .

12 , 3 , 13 , 26 , 52 , 16 .

I have a lot of live streams which are obviously going to be long .

It seems like a lot between 10 and 20 for me , but let me tell you , if there's a channel I really love and they put out a long video , it's a treat .

It's the best . Yeah , you get excited .

I love it .

Yeah , so I think from my opinion . I think it's about type of content . So if you're doing tutorials and your thing is getting started with how to use the prompter and it's a 27-minute video , maybe that's not a getting started video .

I was trying to learn how to beat a boss in Mother 3 . Last night In a video game . Yeah , talk about that later . But trying to learn how to beat a boss in a video game , I had to look up a video and literate the definitive guide , 27 minutes .

I was like dude , this battle is not like Right , but I feel like there's a way to . I don't know . I feel like there's a way that it could be the style of your channel that I don't know . Maybe you're putting some together , you show the whole thing and you don't do any cuts .

I think Kat said it . There it is . Kat said video should be as long as needed and no longer . That's the perfect way to look at it .

I remember telling my students that all the time that makes it seem like it needs to be short .

If it needs to be 45 minutes , it needs to be 45 minutes .

Yeah , I see what you're saying . For tutorials , that makes sense to me . But for , like , do I really have to record me coming into my office ? It doesn't need to be there , but it's cool .

I think we're looking at the word need differently , because I would say it does need to be there because otherwise it's not your video Like , otherwise it's not setting the tone and the style and the thing for your video .

You tell him , tell me , I don't know .

That's my made a point button . Is that the top ?

No one can hear that .

There's nothing happening . I'm just pointing out that I made a point .

He just looked like this . Oh my goodness . Okay , Corey says my take is YouTube is being consumed more on TVs . That's the push for longer content .

Interesting .

I have heard this many times . Okay , not many .

I've heard that a lot lately though .

Yeah , like it's come up in the past , this year , because ? So what's your response to that ?

That is different , that is interesting , because it's .

Okay , let's look up our TV consumption .

TV consumption . How do we look that up ?

Can you see by device ?

Oh , for our channels . Yeah , I didn't know what we were talking about .

Audience .

The same at what we watch on TV .

No , sorry , that's how I said it .

I know that was in the recap recently . Mine was 11% or something .

It was not actually a lot for me , but then what's the increase though Like ? Is that normal for your channel ?

Oh see , I don't know , I don't know how to find it also .

I actually don't know how to find it either . I don't know if it's on the phone .

There's my weekly recap again .

Is it in the weekly recap ?

Mine was last week . It was one of the questions that was like how many people , what percentage of your audience , watch on the TV ?

I made 14 bucks on my tutorial channel last week . Oh , last week . That's actually pretty good right . There you go . I think YouTube TV as a whole is increasing , but I think per channel it really depends , because I'm not going to watch tutorials on a TV , but abroad , in Japan , we mostly watch on TV . Now I think .

True , yeah .

Yeah , so I don't know , it depends .

Very true .

Let's see . Pete says that's correct on the TV

That is very interesting .

I mean , especially if you think , like you have , like I don't know if Mr Beast is still as big as he was , because I haven't heard about him in a while but if you have someone like him who's creating shows that basically match shows that you see on Hulu and Netflix , I can see how that kind of YouTube would be seen on TV .

So it's like I mean , you are captivating .

I mean , I think it just depends , and it's like I don't know . It's kind of like weird to say whether that video is short or long .

Right , it's hard .

Yeah , it depends on so many things . I was thinking of using a 15 inch monitor and decimated to use decimeter . Oh , to flip the video to get a bigger image . Just not sure the extra screen size is worth the cost effort .

Like everything , it depends . The tricky thing with teleprompters is the bigger screen . So much depends on the distance you are from it , but also the screen size .

Yeah , because otherwise it looks like this .

Like well , it also depends if this is closer to you , you're going to notice eyes moving , and it's further away , you can have wider margins and you wouldn't notice it . So so much depends on the specific setup .

Actually you try it . Let me see what Look from like edge to edge , as if we were reading yeah , you could totally tell me .

I mean , I'm looking from like edge to edge .

It's like so obvious you're reading .

Normally okay . Where I'm seeing our microphones in the frame is normally where my script is . If I look between our microphones . You can still see , but I'm not doing it that fast I'm here .

How about I put ?

this okay .

Okay , you can read this comment , right here Okay we're any Cajun oh .

We're my comment box . We'll be able to pop it up on screen there or my comments there .

It is there , it is Okay ready the rainy Cajun , there we go there , it is Okay love long form videos for bedtime .

I save them up during the day and see how many I can view before falling asleep with my phone on or under me . Fun fact , air pod batteries can last all night . Oh , wow , my air pods have not been charging lately . It's really frustrating . Even today I took out lunch .

I was like oh , zero percent , that's a problem .

It is a problem .

Could you tell that Tom was reading ?

Oh yeah .

That was on the prompter . Okay , we got a week re kit . What's wrong ?

I was like you're looking at all these different things .

Okay , rim jam . I put out a 20 minute video recently thinking it'd be way too long , and one of the comments was thanks for getting to the point and not blurring the vid with BS . Yeah , that's funny . It's so hard to predict there's .

I put out a video Last week , my video about the wireless mics . I felt was as short as I can make it while addressing all the issues . I want to touch on with that and of course , like fun to people are like yeah , it was relatively short video and people are like the video should have been one minute long , like a lot .

I love your imitation of what you think they sound like .

Obviously so it sounds to me .

Ian says I prefer to watch YouTube on the TV , though tonight it's in my office , I watch a lot of YouTube on TV . Interesting . I think I'm still a phone I I've had .

I mean , we do still have Boston and Maine live on TV Every day .

I know I bet if you looked at my , I don't know if they don't have stats as a viewer , but anyway , michael , I will see . Watch what I subscribe to on YouTube on my TV through . Roku Mark says would it be better to do a larger number of short , focused videos or longer videos easier to find specific interest , versus Building viewer relationships ?

This is a this is a hard question . That is a YouTube huddle up question right here .

Yeah , but it's like I think you should do . What I would do is that I think it should be both , because I feel like the longer videos build the viewer relationships , while the the short focused videos are the discovery videos , because their topic focused versus person focused a lot of it does depend on the topics , like you know .

I don't know if I'm . The thing about my head was like a final cut pro tutorial , because I've kind of talked about it earlier . But if I did a video , I could do like my entire final cut pro workflow and it's a 50 minute video , start to finish or something .

Here's how to do transition , whatever that's a you know so it .

And even though those could all be one video , it would be frustrating for someone who just wants to learn to export to have to sift through a 50 minute video to find their answer .

So it it definitely does depend on the topic , like if you go to my tutorial channel and you see the way that people find that channel , it's a lot of YouTube search and everything that is like the things that are searched are very specific problems like how do I find my subscriber count , my like live subscriber count , or how do I record my you know camera

Yeah , that's the like , the interactivity , or you know , commenting or whatever people I know who watch mostly video essays .

Watch them on a large screen TV , yeah .

I love a good video essay .

I guess it depends on generation behavior . Someone said I think it was CEO of YouTube mentioned his children watch shorts on TV . Oh , that's all , no . I personally would never do that . Oh my gosh , I feel like I would get so motion sickness .

Fush constant .

Oh my gosh , yeah , no .

But the next comment , cuz I was like what is that ? And then Kevin said I accidentally had it on for a meeting and even when I was looking down my eyes were creepily staring at the camera . I hated it . So it must be like no matter where you look , it makes it look like you're looking . Oh , oh , that's just .

Well , I would have no purpose for that . That that's . I feel like you work from home and you have to like get in a meeting or whatever right .

Well , it's funny if you watch when Elgato released their prompter not to talk about it too long , but they did a whole video like how to use the prompter and one of them was like are you stuck in a meeting ? That should have been an email , like put your favorite sports game .

I guess that would only charges one side of my AirPods .

Oh .

What is happening with the air pod church , see that's what happens cuz you just did that video about the batteries that can't be replaced . Not a fan of the AI eye contact . If I see a top of video under 10 minutes . I think Tom had a busy week .

I . They are just as long as they need to be , but sometimes they're Shorter . It feels weird when I do a sub 10 minute one , but the thing of my brain that pops up is this will be easy to caption Because a 30 minute video with specific problem with specific product names and things .

Can ? I'll tell you what Tom's biggest complaint is right now in his workflow is the captions .

It's gotten better , though Descripted something like two , three months ago , where it that was the biggest .

Like I do catch , oh hey , captions you know how many times about comments anymore . You don't complain about some you would you never really complain about thumbnails Editing ? Obviously never , never heard a single complaint .

Captions . Yeah , you know , many times I had to replace rotor pro instead of roadcaster pro . What the hell is a rotor ?

Which is crazy . It's not even like the video is done .

Yeah , that's why it's frustrating , because everything's done . I got to go through and like , do , like upgrading a ninth grade of essay here , but the script got a lot better where now it can do product names . Even the Elgato prompter it knows when , most of the time knows when to capitalize the word prompter and when not to .

Wow , that's if I say why do you have to be that exact dude ? It's I mean .

I like to be that exact . But even stuff like pod mic , you know there's a bunch of ways this . Is it two words ? Is it one word ? It knows now . Capital P , capital M .

Okay , so here's the thing . Are you Currently watching this stream on TV ?

Oh , I think I'm gonna be able to comment , yeah , like it's cuz I'm looking like that hole where .

What device are you using to watch this ?

TV , though they won't be able to tell well you gotta pull up your phone and let us know people a chore , oh boy because I think it's helpful for everybody . I remembered when Doc said he first like watched us and got into it . He was watching on a TV , he was like making multiple people .

Yeah , he was like making lunch or something and he heard you mention his name , he like got excited . Let's see . Corey says I love craters . Utilize chapters makes quick search just so much better .

Yeah , sure .

I mean that's like everybody .

Let me tell you if you can do that you should be doing that Let me tell you , when I open a 25 minute video and I need one specific thing , and there's no chapters and I'll forget it ?

I would . I would just abort Back to go go refine search . Yeah , kane says I make long one-hour practice exam live streams . Save for VOD , then cut questions in a 15 minute VOD . You will split between viewing for each gives the audience choice for what they feel up to that's great , that's interestingly , longer form has increased TV viewing . Oh , really .

That's a lot . Of my videos are 25 to 30 minutes already .

I know it's pretty long I .

Feel like they're too long sometimes .

Old school laptops simply because of the chat , nice laptop . Today I'm watching on my laptop . Last week as iPad , mac PC , I'm watching on my phone , almost everything on my phone , so it's kind of even well . We haven't had a TV person , but that's probably because the TV person is we can't .

They're stuck screaming at their TV right now .

Da Vinci is an auto tech generator , and all I'd have to do is edit a few typos , and I still don't want to do .

Yeah , I wish Final Cut had something like that , where it , just as you basically exported the video , it did the captains Simultaneously and you're done . I think premier does it too .

Oh cut does it .

Final Cut . You can do subtitles , but you can't easily as far as . I know export like the SRT file .

Yeah , so you can you can yeah , it's funny that you never knew this . I'm not like calling you .

Yeah , I mean no , I would love to learn .

So text on screen . You know you add a text box that is different from captions .

Yes .

You so yeah , so like , it's like a different color on the timeline .

Oh , yeah , yeah , no , I know that yeah , that you can export .

I thought .

I don't know , I don't know , I don't , I don't know . Is there a risk week ?

Seriously .

It's just the sound of our laughter reverberating .

Well , we're kind of like two and a half hours away .

We usually still feel them though .

Let me see If I work out , it goes on the big screen . Homeless Ignac , I think 90% of my live streams have chapters . I put them afterwards so people can practice guitar with me . See , that makes sense . Homeless Ignac , I was trying to like chapter marker hours .

Sorry , that was a 4.7 in Malibu .

Oh wow , that's a big one . That's a big guy . We didn't feel anything .

No , it was a rocking back .

We were like laughing though .

The dogs usually freak out , though .

Yeah , he'd been still sleeping . He didn't feel anything . Let's see , I'm at my computer for this , because I'm usually at my desk at this time . Phone it means I can get my boys breakfast while I listen . Curious , how much video podcasts are driving the TV video . Oh see , there you go .

Interesting .

I think a lot Right .

I don't know . I have no idea . I feel like live streams and video podcasts . Those are great things to put on the TV and then do your thing .

I know , but see , what I do is I put my AirPods on , I have it on my phone and then I go wash the dishes .

But I like putting stuff on the TV long form when I know I'm not going to have to change it or mess with anything .

X-PAT animator TV all the time .

TV all the time .

Mr Canberra Junkie says over at 5.5 in Hawaii . Well , this was in Malibu , which is a lot closer to Kevin . Yeah , oh , RIMJAM says I'm on TV now texting on my phone .

Nice hashtag rebel .

Michael , I open my phone with the YouTube app to comment on something I'm watching live on TV . Yeah , oh , because , yeah , because it says you can use the devices together . Oh , we see that smart .

That's the way to solve that . And if you have Apple TV I'm guessing some of the other ones too where you can do text-to-speech remote , I think you can go into the comments and just leave your comment that way .

Yeah .

I don't know . See , the world is an interesting place .

Yes , it is so , yeah , so , yeah , so , yeah . What else is up ?

We have 10 more minutes , well , outside of the world of YouTube , we've been playing a lot of games . Oh , before that on Related .

Pings oh , you wanted to go there .

Well , no , we don't have to go there , but the pod might cover here .

Yeah .

I did ask Rode if I could show these , yet they said yes , because it's a thing , it's a real where is it ? It's not out yet , but they said I can show them , and obviously not just blue , but they gave me a blue one because it's the perfect shade of blue .

Oh , I don't know about that , so I just didn't say anything .

Oh wait , it was Nice t-shirt lady .

Respectfully . Thank you , rainy Cajun . Tom , real quick , what's your favorite cold shoe mount shock of Mike these days ? It's still . It's been for a long time .

The video , mike and TG . I just really like that one . I think it sounds super good and it . I love the Dial , the game dial . On the back . Corey says I miss channel intros .

I know most people don't like them .

Yeah , I kind of miss because you know what it was like personality , right , it was like you get to feel I still put mine in . Sometimes it's literally like three seconds , but I put it in .

Yeah , yeah . What do you think ?

I thought about it , I thought I had a thought oh , I mean , I don't miss the you know like 20 second dubstep generated like Intros from 2014 or whatever .

Like , because it's like you try to you open up a tutorial for a very quick thing and half the video is the intro , I mean it is really funny when there's like a minute 20 video and there's a 20 second intro . Yeah .

It's also funny .

Exactly , exactly . Tom , did you ever get your grandfather's ham call sign ? No , no , you did not .

I need to .

Yeah .

I've been needing to .

It is not a thing that exists .

It will not happen .

Yeah .

Yeah .

Drew's here . Hello , hello , hello .

I need to get that . I want to get that . That would be so cool .

Yeah , add that to the list .

Yeah .

Oh man , oh , all right , so we're going to talk about games . Oh , I just I sure you have sure , until I had a little show until . Oh , look at you wiggling in your seat . Do you want to do show and tell ?

me ? No man , we don't have to show and tell .

I'm saying that like some bad thing because Kevin is here , I have he hasn't said anything since he felt the earthquake . I don't know , he might have fallen into an abyss in Malibu or something , but if Kevin survived the quake , yeah , kevin , are you okay Pulling toys to let us know I don't feel really bad of something that actually happened .

It's like pinned under his desk . This isn't funny . For Christmas , Kevin gave me this yes . Which is a thing we had talked about like months before , and I kind of looked into and then understand this is an analog pocket and there's a bunch of like Game Boy emulator and emulator things .

This is pretty awesome , though , because this is like his talk about favorite .

You want to talk about the hours I have put on this thing . It's a good gift , so thank you . It can play any Game Boy cartridge Game Boy Classic , game Boy Color , game Boy Advance . You can take the old school cartridges , just pop them in here .

So he loves it . Yes , he loves it .

So what I did with it , what I got it ? I was like poking around in my old like links Awakening and my old cartridges and stuff . But then I played Chrono Trigger , your favorite game of all time .

My favorite game of all time . I played many a video game . That one is my favorite . She talked about it .

She talked about it since the day we met . Yeah , chrono Trigger , that was your phone case . It was your phone case , like design .

What's the big part of my life ? I've never been an RPC person . I would be who I am if not for Chrono Trigger .

And I played that game on here , which I know it was a Super Nintendo game , but I played it on here and it was so much fun and I loved it . And then I was done with it and I was so sad that I wanted to do more . So then I dove into Earthbound , which I also really , really loved , and now I'm into the sequel .

Yeah .

And I like that , and so I was like I want to do this when I dive into this , this other new game , it'd be cool to have the cartridge of it , but it doesn't like exist , so about like a fan translation . Quality wasn't amazing , because when it got warm from being played , the text would start getting garbled on supreme .

Yes .

But the cool thing is , rather than emulating this is what I've come to understand about the pocket specifically , which is why I think it's so neat . There's lots of emulators out there but things are always like a little bit off in the games or like the . There's weird latency or control things . This and maybe it's splitting hairs .

Well , I want to know when is the YouTube video coming out on ? Tom plays video games now .

I play video games all the time , but not RPGs are different . Rpgs are very different .

That's time intensive yeah . He was like explaining to me , like leveling up , and I had to explain the rolling HP meter in the Earthbound series .

Because you don't just lose your HP when you get hit . You get hit and then it rolls back , but if you end the battle quick enough , you can avoid getting too much damage . Anyway .

Kevin actually had stuff fall in his apartment . That's like crazy , yeah , oh , what about tech audit TV ? Tech audit TV wants to know the name of the device . I still might get more color , but can't stay on the screen .

The analog pocket . It's not the cheapest .

Analog is spelled with an E yeah .

Analog U E after G U E . Yeah , it's not the least expensive device out there , but it's like the most premium one and they have different they all . It seems like it's kind of hard to get not unlike the Elgato prompter , but they do like limited edition ones . So they did like a limited edition color run . They have a standard black and white one .

This is a newbie to RPGs .

Yeah .

If you guys want to make recommendations specifically though here's what I'm looking for right now . He's into retro gaming .

I'm more into the old school ones that I could play on here , so something from a Game Boy or a Super Nintendo maybe , maybe a Genesis or a Game Gear or something if there were any RPGs on there .

He's into the super fix .

I'm not currently yet into random battles .

Oh yeah , if there's random battles , he can't do it Too much , just stress .

So everything I've played so far Chrono Trigger and both the Earth Bounds do not have random battles . You can see the enemy and you know .

Okay , adam Brown says hello to my favorite YouTube couple . I like Kara and Nate , but we saw you two come together . Wow , then your old school then , because we've been together a while I know .

What was it we were talking about today ?

I know who's Kara and Nate . Do we know them ? Do you watch them ?

They're old school YouTube couple , kara and .

Nate , let's see Rocky is sitting next to me geeking out over Tom playing old RPGs , yes so

There's a few . I have a few on there that I haven't . Golden Sun was one that's highly recommended for Super Nintendo but has random battles .

So , like Mr Camera Drunkie , what would your ?

If I like Earth Bound and Chrono Trigger , what else would I like ?

I feel like Lewis would be like jump into a Final Fantasy .

Oh , there are . Yeah , there are Final Fantasies on there .

But I feel like you're holding off on .

I know there's like I want to do Sea of Stars .

Yes .

Sea of .

Stars . This is one that just came out , but I'm like really liking .

There's something about the small . I know it feels like playing a Game Boy as a kid . This can only do the one thing it just play the games . It's small , it's vertical , it's just like listen . Come on now .

It feels good , it's a good .

It feels good . It's a good device , yeah .

Yeah , it's a Tomb of Two . Game Review exactly . Oh man , there's gotta be .

One time I saw scary comment sections oh are they I ? Don't know . I just meant person who knows nothing about games or viewing games .

Oh , come now . It's the enthusiasm . Oh come now , come on , you can't do it , that's it . Oh , come now .

You turned into like a British nanny . Oh , come now Frasier over here .

I started my gaming channel .

Yeah , I just realized that . As I said , it was a very positive experience . But you also like I went in with the noob angle , like I'm new to this Show me the way You've been doing it longer than like everyone who watched has been alive pretty much .

I know Wait what .

You had been playing games longer than most people had been .

Yeah , but I was new to that game , but anyway , star Ocean is good , but all my faves have random battles .

Really Like what . You just have to accept it as a thing I don't think you do . There's other games out well at .

The thing is it's the retro games have a lot of random battles but , like I'd say , you know 2005 and beyond . We did away with that . That's nice because that the game me acts aspect was it's turned into like puzzles . It turned into like right Harder bosses . It wasn't like you're just walking through the map and boom . Oh yeah , I still play ff7 on PC .

Three does well . I don't know if it's a Gameboy version , but I know people play it on there .

I know , but see if you're gonna play file 5c3 like Play . Play what they just came out with on the switch last year , like they remastered all of them .

I know and I love the switch , but I really love the pocket .

Tetris and dr Mario are all I remember your dr Mario phase . They that app doesn't exist anymore .

So people got too mad was it on the phone or was it on the switch ?

I was on my phone like remember that one , that's right , you battled with other people . Oh my god , it was so there's a problem . Mike Tyson's punch out paper boy , oh paper boy , oh my gosh . Tech mobile and Tetris is all . One needs Tetris . I mean shoot . I could bust that out right here , look .

There you go . I mean , I got my Tetris cartridge , I could pop it in right there we just played .

Tetris is so fun .

Tetris 99 is fun . What is it ? What is it called ? Tetris Maximus or something ?

Yeah , like when you so Tetris 99 . This is a free game on like all Nintendo switches , but it's basically you versus 98 other people and If you are the last person standing , you get the title . I think it's Tetris .

Invictus no .

Yeah , yeah , invictus , I think I don't know whatever , and then you get . You Get access to everyone else who has also been number one . Like to play them . It is a I don't like playing there , yeah crazy . But yeah , acabella , do a video on top up to about this analog pocket and where to acquire games and such .

No , no , it'd be fun .

The you haven't been this into like a new thing since hockey .

Yeah , I mean yeah , but it's . I mean it's really , it's fun , because it's like , oh great , there's 30 years of games to go through and catch up on , like you know , like it's great . The thing about acquiring games , though , is I'm not sure what the rules are , because what analog did ? They marketed this , as you can now play all your cartridges .

You're downloading a game without buying it .

I Would never , would never I Did . I don't know what you're talking about I . Don't know what you're talking about . No idea . I definitely wouldn't go to Google and search like Rom downloads or something and just click on the first website .

That's not a thing I would do . I feel college purses . Thanks to miss Pac-Man , I'm not old .

I Love Pac-Man and miss Pac-Man though .

I was the difference between miss Pac-Man and Pac-Man .

She had a bow , that was it alright .

like game wise , it was the same .

I think some of the items are different .

I don't remember . Well , we went to David Buster's recently and they had a giant Pac-Man where like eight people could play at a time .

Oh , that was insane it was crazy .

It was . He was like a pool table like that size .

It was cool .

Yeah , it's fun it was really fun . The tech on TV . Have you guys experimented with vertical live streams that get pushed through the short feed ?

No , I didn't know .

That was a thing . I just saw this on e-cam .

So you can live stream shorts , but that's not very short . I Know that vertical streaming is more of a thing .

So say , you wanted to go live to Instagram ? Yeah , and YouTube Shorts , I don't know . So I think when they click on the short , it would look like an Instagram feed . Okay like Instagram live , right ? No , the answer is no .

Yeah , clearly we're not .

I still play Castlevania of my og game boy , napster . For games , I Love David Buster's , so do we ? They just opened up one here in our area . The closest one was like an hour and a half , yeah , so it's been awesome .

I caught it . Tv sounds like plexus , entire business model . I suppose some crazy person out there could hypothetically pirate movies and watch them be our platform , but They'd have to be crazy . Only a crazy person would do something that crazy .

I smell a class action suit . Res me a periscope so familiar that was like a Twitter .

It got absorbed into Twitter at some point . That was like only live streaming right , it was my gosh , you know we should do like talk about every platform . Oh Lord friends her my space .

Yeah , all of them live journal blog spot . I'm waiting for you to say a secret one I've never heard of .

I just know the ones that I . I'm sure you knew more than I did . I don't know a well incident messenger , msn messenger , what was it ? Was it Yahoo chat rooms ? We're had , like all the different topics .

Use Yahoo chat rooms . Yeah , that's cute asl 16 female Cali .

I was always like . I never said my actual name , but I was . I was always honest about like Whatever you know 14 MCA . Thank you , mr Camerajan , for this link you sent me what oh ? 20 classic RPGs that are still great today .

Oh , I want to look at the list . Compuserve damn , I think I have to get one of these analog pockets and find time to play . I don't , tom is like . I Don't even know what used to do with your time , but multiple hours per day are now spent on that thing , which I love .

It's very different .

Yeah , I'm playing yakuza .

Here's the number one .

Yo .

Chrono trigger is the number one on that list you guys have to play it .

Okay , it's like tick-tock your life streams appear in the same fetus shorts and are separate from horizontal lives . But I've done two vertical life streams and I probably get five times viewers . We should try it .

It'd be fun . Oh , earthbound's number six .

I started with ICQ .

Oh my gosh , I remember that . I see Q I never had it , but I remember knowing of it .

I'm disconnecting from all this of the legal activity . I was never here . I CQ brought back memories . I see Q . Why does that sound familiar ?

Well it was . It wasn't like aim , but it kind of was , wasn't it ? You had like a number or something and people could chat .

CQ . It sounds so familiar .

Sorry , there's a lot of games on here I haven't heard of and I there's your list .

Yeah , all right , we should call it . Yeah , it's a nap time for the babes over here After he plays at a lock pocket . Anyway , today was super fun and we will catch you next week , is there ?

anything else , time to clear the table . Youtube huddle up .

YouTube huddle up on the day a dish , yep and yeah .

So thank you for hanging out with us . Thank you for all the fun . Hope you have a safe , happy , healthy , fun rest of your weekend this week day , friday . Weekend and see you next time .

See ya , bye .