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The Cost of Doing Business

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The Cost of Doing Business Podcast is here to help business owners find the path to profitability. We look beyond the glamour and glitz of the Instagram highlight reel by digging into the behind-the-scenes work necessary to achieve our goals. Your host, Weston Zimmerman, is the co-founder of SynkedUP. This award-winning landscape business management software is making a real difference for owners looking for a budgeting and overhead recovery tool and helps with estimating and job costing.
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Episodes

Ep 77. Real Leaders Build People, Not Just Patios | Aaron Emerson

In this episode, I sit down with Aaron from Emerson Lawn & Landscape on a sunny spring morning outside Philly to talk about the not-so-glamorous side of leadership. We dive deep into what it actually looks like to transition from being the technician who does it all… to becoming the kind of leader who builds people, systems, and culture. Aaron gets real about almost losing the business, the mindset shifts that turned it around, and how leadership is less about control and more about letting ...

Jun 23, 202557 min

Ep 76. He’s Not at $1M Yet - But He’s Building Like He Is | Ken Brown

I sit down with Ken Brown of Liberty Outdoor Landscapes this week - an owner/operator with a big goal: hit $1 million in revenue before age 30. Ken's not there yet, but he’s well on his way by making smart moves most contractors overlook: implementing a Profit First-style banking system, tracking every job like it matters, and using tech to win back his time. From mowing seven days a week to designing custom outdoor projects, Ken shares the mindset shifts and systems that are helping him grow wi...

Jun 09, 202533 min

Ep 75. How Letting Go Built a Better Business w/ Nick Pandolfi

On this podcast I sit down with Nick Pandolfi of Pandolfi Landscape Construction to talk about what it really takes to grow a business that lasts. From installing plunge pools to letting go of control, Nick opens up about the hard-earned lessons that freed up his time, protected his profit, and gave him back his family life. If you’ve ever wrestled with doing it all yourself, this episodes for you. Give them a follow: @pandolfilandscapeconstruction If you're interested in learning more about Syn...

May 26, 202542 min

Ep 74. I'm Losing Money on Every Job - and Didn’t Even Know It w/ Robert Green

This one hits deep. In today’s episode, I sat down with Robert from Stone Craft Design & Build to unpack what it really takes to scale a construction business. From nearly burning out and losing hundreds of thousands to regaining control, building a team culture that people would yearn to be part of, and finally running a profitable, sustainable business. We talk budgets, mindset shifts, what got him into SynkedUP, and how clarity around his numbers saved his business. This isn’t a story abo...

May 12, 202535 min

Ep 73. I Almost Quit After This Job - and I Was the Problem

This week I sit down with Marco from Annabelle Landscapes, a loyal customer and a guy who’s been through the real trenches of building a business. He tells the story of landing his first big patio job, an $80K project that sounded like a dream at first… until the stress, snow, and not knowing his numbers nearly broke him. That job almost convinced him to walk away from hardscaping entirely. Not because the work was bad - but because his mindset was the real limit. We talk through that shift. Fro...

Apr 28, 202536 min

Ep 72. How Knowing Your Numbers Changes Everything w/ AJ Wanders

AJ Wanders from Monolith Artscapes shares what it really looked like to go from self-doubt to confidence in the early days of running his business. As a two-man crew, AJ talks about why he chose to invest in SynkedUP right out of the gate, and how that decision helped him win back his evenings, quote jobs faster, and make decisions with clarity instead of guesswork. He opens up about leaving the comfort of a steady paycheck, navigating mindset struggles, and how knowing his numbers gave him the ...

Apr 14, 202531 min

Ep 71. Lessons from an Aquascape Artist of the Year - Joe Genovese.

In this episode, I sit down with my longtime friend and fellow pond builder Joey Genovese from Genoscape Inc. They’re a full-service landscape construction company specializing in water features. Joey’s been in the game over two decades, evolving from general landscaping to becoming one of the most respected water feature specialists in the industry. We dig into everything, from slogging through mud at early Aquascape builds to installing 100-ton boulders in Southern Africa. We talk about surviv...

Mar 31, 202539 min

Ep 70. Building a Business That Runs Without You w/ Greg Wittstock

On this special episode of The Cost of Doing Business, I sit down with longtime friend and mentor Greg Wittstock, CEO and Founder of Aquascape. We dive deep into the real, messy journey of transforming a hobby into a thriving business, creating a company culture that lasts, and empowering a team strong enough to run the show without you. "If you're working IN the business, you have a job. If you're working ON the business, you have a company." Greg’s straightforward advice years ago was the cata...

Mar 17, 202532 min

Ep 69. Growing a Family-Owned Landscaping Business w/ Joel De La Paz

I’m at the HNA Expo in Louisville, recording live with Joel De La Paz from Nuñes Outdoor Living, a family-run landscaping business in northern Michigan. Recording podcasts at tradeshows like this—where we get to sit down with our customers, hear their stories, and learn from their experiences—is one of the most fulfilling parts of what we do. Joel gets real about the biggest challenges they’ve faced—figuring out their financials, keeping cash flow steady in the off-season, and navigating the dyn...

Mar 03, 202515 min

Ep 68. Scaling Contracting Business: Lessons from Alex Fransen’s Journey

In this episode, I sit down with Alex Fransen, the owner of Derby City Pools & Outdoor Living in Louisville, Kentucky. As a contractor in the pool and landscaping industry for the past 28 years, Alex has some serious stories to share about the challenges of scaling his business. Alex opens up about the tough transition his company went through—shifting from a maintenance-focused operation to one centered on construction. He calls it a "monster" that his smaller maintenance side just couldn't...

Feb 17, 202530 min

Ep 67. The Power of Believing in Yourself with Leonardo Diez

In this episode we sit down with Leo Diez, the owner of Volunteer State Landscapes, from Tennessee. Leo took a chance on himself, previously working as an Irrigation Technician he decided he wanted to pursue a landscaping business and took the plunge. Leo shares his inspiring story of overcoming the fear of starting his own company and the challenges of running a successful landscaping business. We drop some serious truth bombs about the importance of shifting your mindset from blaming everythin...

Feb 03, 202534 min

Ep 66. Taking Responsibility for Your Teams Success w/ Kyle from Pacific Pine Landscape

This week we’re in Bend, Oregon with our friend and customer Kyle from @‌pacificpinelandscape. We dive into the challenges of building a strong team as a small business owner. Kyle and I discuss the importance of assuming the best intentions when employees make mistakes, rather than taking a blaming approach. This advice was applied in my own life during my Tussey Landscaping days from lessons I learned reading a book called “Extreme Ownership” - where the idea of having to take responsibility f...

Jan 20, 202532 min

Ep 65. What's the right work/life balance?

I'm with Rob Picone from Picone Landscaping in New York, having a great discussion on balancing the pressure between growing a business and not letting life blow by and missing the moments that matter. We also discussed their journey of onboarding SynkedUP into their business, and how important discipline is in any process in your business. It's always easier to keep on doing what you've always done, it takes discipline to grow and improve. Give Rob and his wife Lisa a follow on Instagram (@pico...

Jan 06, 202542 min

Ep 64. Faith, Family, and the Bottom Line: How Joel Lattimer Blends Business and Belief

This week I sit down with Joel Lattimer, a Christian entrepreneur who has built a thriving outdoor living and water features business with his brother. As the co-founder of Lattimer Outdoor Living and Waterscapes, Joel seamlessly integrates his faith-based values with his passion for exceptional craftsmanship. This commitment to doing business with integrity has earned Lattimer Outdoor Living a reputation for quality work and exceptional customer service. When not overseeing design-build project...

Dec 23, 202438 min

Ep 63. From Hustling in High School to Building Luxury Pools: Christopher Castano’s Story

Bio: Christopher Castano started his landscaping business when he was 15, trimming bushes and spreading mulch on his lunch breaks. Fast forward, and he’s now running a thriving design-build company crafting high-end outdoor spaces with his team in North Carolina. In this episode, we dive into how Christopher went from figuring it out on the fly to tackling half-million-dollar projects, training a solid crew, and creating a business that’s all about quality, trust, and timeless designs. Christoph...

Dec 09, 202439 min

Ep 62. Learning How to Deliver Real Value to Your Clients w/ Justin Laughter

This week on the podcast, I had the pleasure of speaking with Justin Laughter, the owner of Laughter Family Hardscapes in Asheville, North Carolina. Justin’s built a thriving hardscape design and construction business by staying laser-focused on delivering real value to his clients, rather than just building what they want. Justin shares his design-first approach ensuring his clients get outdoor living spaces that truly meet their needs and lifestyle, not just the latest trends. Justin's journey...

Nov 25, 202449 min

Ep 61. From Humble Beginnings to Industry Titans: The Morales Outdoor Living Story

I sat down with Chris Morales, the founder of Morales Outdoor Living, to uncover the hard-won lessons and successes of his entrepreneurial journey. From humble beginnings with a two-door truck and an $800 trailer, to tackling a once-in-a-lifetime Christmas-themed hotel project, Chris shares his story of passion, perseverance, and the power of building a dedicated team. As a fellow green industry veteran, I was inspired by Chris's commitment to quality, his investment in company culture, and the ...

Nov 11, 202451 min

Ep 60. Go on your own or stay an employee?

Today I'm with Jason Gwaltney of Gwaltney Landscaping in North Carolina. We had a fantastic discussion on his business journey, and how he decided to leave his job and strike out on his own. .... And all the challenges that come with that. Second guessing yourself on pricing, hustling to pay the bills, getting dependable help, on and on. Give Jason a follow on Instagram! He's building some awesome water features! Instagram (@gwaltneylandscaping_llc) Home | Gwaltney Landscaping If you're interest...

Oct 28, 202449 min

Ep 59. The hardest part of growing your business: letting go of control

In this episode of The Cost of Doing Business , we sit down with Mike Schellhaas, owner of Schellhaas Landscape Construction, to unpack what it really takes to grow a hardscaping business without bleeding profits. Mike shares his journey from pen-and-paper estimates to leveraging technology, the hard lessons along the way, and why knowing your numbers is critical for your success. If you’ve ever wondered how to break out of the “ more work, same profit ” trap, this one’s for you! @schellhaasland...

Oct 14, 202446 min

Ep 58. From Solopreneur to Scalable Success: Overcoming Bottlenecks and Cultivating a Growth Mindset

This week, we sit down with Kevin Trobaugh, a landscape entrepreneur, to talk about his journey from solo operator to building a thriving, scalable business. We dive into the challenges he faced, like balancing job site demands with networking opportunities, and how he shifted his mindset to focus on empowering his team rather than just chasing top-line growth. Kevin shares the best advice he’s received, like knowing when to stop doing low-value tasks and instead invest in the right people. If y...

Sep 30, 202450 min

Ep 57. I bought the business I worked for.

Kent Muir from Good 2 Great Landscape in Pittsburgh PA, was working as an employee in a landscaping company, and ended up buying it and taking it over. Listen to his story as he took it over and grew it into a great organization, even working for some famous sports celebrities in the Pittsburgh area! Give him and his team a follow: Instagram (@good2great.landscape) Good 2 Great Landscape If you're interested in learning more about SynkedUP, check us out: SynkedUP - Landscape Business Management ...

Sep 16, 202441 min

Ep 56. From landscaping to hardscaping to land clearing

Mark Todd's story is an interesting one. Listen to his journey with his business, Todd Quality, and how his model and services evolved over time. He went from 9 employees to 3 along the way, and we dig into the pros and cons with his experience on that change. Mark has significantly increased his net profit by using SynkedUP in his business, and he shares how it did that for him. Give Mark a follow and check out his awesome machines! Instagram (@toddquality) Todd Quality Landscape Services, Land...

Sep 02, 202448 min

Ep 55. A father-son team in business

No one ever blamed father and son team Anthony Mann and Anthony Hermann-Mann of being lazy. Man! The grass doesn't grow under these boys' feet. Anthony the father is a 3rd generation mason with roots in Italy, and is now working on nurturing Anthony the son up in the business, teaching not only the craft, but also the leadership and management skills it takes to run a successful business. Give them a follow! https://www.instagram.com/anthonygrouphardscapes https://www.anthonygrouphardscapes.com/...

Aug 19, 202441 min

Ep 54. Going from 80 hrs to 40 hrs a week as an owner.

Jeremy Morales of Morales Masonry & Landscaping has been pounding the pavement for years in this industry, working out in the field, hustling to make it. Today he tells his story on how he realized the work will always be there and started making some business and lifestyle changes. Today he's realizing his lifelong dream of getting his pilot's license and flying his own plane. Give him a follow at Instagram (@morales_masonry_landscaping) If you're interested in learning more about SynkedUP,...

Aug 05, 202436 min

Ep 53. Closing 10 out of 10 proposals... HOW!?

Jon Valenta is just one of those disciplined, price-driven guys who have built a beautiful 3 man company, ...and is closing 10 out of 10 proposals. Dude, that even blew my mind. Listen in to hear how he does it. Jon shares his proposal process more in-depth at the Contractor Summit 2024 in Dayton Ohio! Contractor Summit Give Jon a follow at: Instagram (@generalpavingstones) General Pavingstones LLC If you're interested in learning more about SynkedUP, check us out: SynkedUP - Landscape Business ...

Jul 22, 20241 hr 1 min

Ep 52. Transitioning a business from father to son.

Jim and James Womer are an incredible SynkedUP success story. I loved listening to it. On today's episode, they take us on their journey as a team, and the challenges of handing responsibilities from one owner to another. Transferring knowledge that's bottled up on one brain; to another brain trying to unpack and learn the process. Give the Womer boys a follow! Instagram (@womerlandscapinginc) Facebook Womer Landscaping | Pottsville PA If you're interested in learning more about SynkedUP, check ...

Jul 08, 20241 hr

Ep 51. Moving from solopreneur model to hiring first employees

The boys at Top Rock started off on their own, and worked as a pair for a while. Just recently they hired their first employee. We discuss their thought process behind adding employees, and how they think about structuring their crew and equipment setup. Give them a follow at: Instagram (@2018toprockdesign) SynkedUP - Landscape Business Management Software https://synkedup.com/...

Jun 24, 202423 min

Ep 50. From Surviving to Thriving with a 2 Man Landscape Company

Description: Corey and Collin Schindler are truly role models of what we mean when we say #thrivenotsurvive at SynkedUP. Their story is both so relatable, and inspiring. Long story short, they went from being reactive in their decision-making, to strategic. They spent $5k a year on SynkedUP, and made $100k in additional profit in their first year. If you ask them, they’ll tell you it felt like spending money they didn’t have. But that investment came back to them many times over. Give them a fol...

Jun 10, 202457 min

Ep 49. What's the most efficient crew model?

Today I get to hang out with Rusty Metsker from Three Trails in Kansas City. We discussed the most efficient model for structuring crews and setting crews up for success. Give Rusty and his team a follow at https://www.instagram.com/threetrails If you're interested in learning more about SynkedUP, check us out: SynkedUP - Landscape Business Management Software https://synkedup.com/...

May 27, 202442 min

Ep 48. Thriving as a 50/50 partnership

Caleb and Jack from Kindred Outdoor Solutions have dived into the entrepreneurial rollercoaster together as a 50/50 partnership, and they're doing really well. This intrigues me, as I know the 50/50 partnerships are controversial. But Jack and Caleb give us a peek into how it's working, what the challenges are, and the decisions they've made that have really benefitted the business. Give them a follow at: Instagram (@kindredoutdoorsolutions) and Kindred Outdoor Solutions - Landscaping and Hardsc...

May 13, 202444 min
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