The control group contains scenes of realistic violence and graphic sexuality. It is intended for mature listeners. Hello, who is this? Don't you worry who this? Tell me where you are? Tell me where she is? No, so I can come
get her. That's quite impossible. Nothing is impossible. You above all people should know that Dr hayes Dr Walter hay in the field of psychiatric medicine, it was an exciting time, a time of innovation and discovery, a time when mental health institutions struggled to redefine themselves, to become something more than repositories of the sink God. Unorthodox methods and aggressive therapies were not only permitted, but encouraged. This is a record of that time. This is the control group. Is
she cognizant? Just just aboutd I think at two hours? We don't have two hours. Karen, Karen, what did he say to you? Who was that man? Huh? I'm not supposed to tell you that he made it very you said his name. Say it again. I didn't say his name. You said it. I heard it. We have it on tape. So you can tell me now, or I can turn your back over to the police. No. Better stop playing games are answer me, dr Star, you know what's good for you? You're tell me you I do know. We
know his name, we have his number. So at this point i'd say you have nothing else to hide. Put her under ect finnobarb nice like. No, no, please, we're under and resume the driving tape. Stay with her until she's sure she's asleep. Yes, sir, please, I becking you. I'll monitor her myself. You've got to get me out of here. Upon the right, right back. You don't have to do this. Look at you, verdery, look at me. You know? Do I need to start you down? You
know things aren't right. I know you've noticed. Think about what's happening here over the past. Back No, no, no, look around you. You've gotta trust your instincts for once. It's not safe. It's not safe for any of us. He's coming. He's coming here looking for me. I can't be here. Well, you can't let him find still while I put the conductor on your temples, Morgan Hall, get his hands on me. I'm a dead woman. Down on this dead woman. Bite down. You're just trying to stay alive.
We can't put your back in the ward. You'll have to You'll have to stay in the sleep room. I'm telling I can figure something out, okay, anything. I'll try to keep Dr Hayes out and Gloria. I don't know how long you can stay there without anyone discovering. Two or three days? Maybe? Yes? Whatever you say? Whatever? All right then ah Human Ecology. Give me summer Hill Godfreed. If you don't, Town, I'm sorry. Dr Godfried is only available by prior appointment summer early May. Ask please hold
a summer hill. Where the fuck is she? We've been over this more and it's better for all of us if we keep her under wraps for a while. If she's under wraps, why did I just get a phone call from Karen called you? Somebody better tell me what the hell's going on real quick before fin is sequestered in a secure facility. She's closely monitored and completely in communicado. Now she was able to communicato. She just called me on an unsecured line. I mean, jesus, what the hell
kind of operation are you clowns running? She's part of a new project. Bullshit on that. I never approved this. It was Gottfried's decision. She is mine. The moment she was arrested. I should have been notified, but I wasn't. It was public, it was news. I could have fixed it. There was no fixing this. Trust us. This was the way to go. An opportunity arose at the fish on your opportunity. I found her, I groomed her, not you not got freed. She's mine. I want her back. There's
no taking her back right now, it's impossible. I'm too were satisfied that we can integrate her into the stable? No, she's under wraps. I told you there's too much at you. And I know who's got her, and I know what bluff when I hear one. Dr Walter Hayes Central State Hospital at New Canaan, all right, hold on would be second floor. You had your chance to tell me, and you didn't. But now I know. And you've got nothing to say about what I do from here on? That
you got me? Is that clear enough for you? Am I making my clear to you? It's urgent, Jesus Valerie, it's Dr Heyes, what's going on? Old goddamn mind? You're asking me to hole hold on? Pencil pushing pansy. You put me on home summer Hill. Oh good, Mr summer Hill, this is Walter Hayes and New Canaan has good to hear from you. I was just discussing you with one of my colleagues. Anything new on the research front, Yes, I cracked her. Excuse me, Karen Myers, I got insider
at a matter of speaking. The man in the room, the invisible man. I know who he is, I know his name, everything everything. Huh so what is his name? Morgan Hall? But there's a problem. You don't say he he knows who I am. And for the sick, security, for the patients, for Karen too. Of course, I'm worried that this Morgan Hall person did do me a favor. Sure, I'm going to put you on hold for a second, bring in someone who might be able to provide an assistance.
I don't know whether or not this man is dangerous or if I'm back Morgan Morgan, I thought Dr Hayes on the other line, letting me know that he has successfully obtained a confession from Karen, confession, and that he's going to make sure that no no, no, no, no, no, no no no, you do not let that head shrinker say another word to her. Do you hear me. It's fine, Morgan, he's part of our package. He's recording all his sessions, so that what the fucking what you are letting him
pump my operative for it? I would hardly call Karen Myers and I'm letting him get it on taper you up. Your new thing is under our control. No, not everything. The name one thing that we can't control me Morgan, what's that supposed to mean? Morgans do with me? Hayes, Yeah, good, look, we we we think it's probably best if you had her on some kind of sedatives already in place, sweet therapy, ect,
heavy regiment, chemical hypnosis for our sessions. Jesus, okay, let's why don't you put her back under so that she Yeah, hello, how did this other person Morton? Did you say his name was? So? Tell me how did he find out who you are? Well, that's a kind of a funny story. You see, we were using the telephone re enacting the scenario at the Dixie Motel and a role plane scenario, right right, tarned thing. I had disconnected the phone from the wall for security, of course, of course, and well
it stepped out of the office. She plugged the phone back into the wall and made the She placed the call to this Hall fella, this Morgan Hall person. Got it? Got it? Listen for the time being until we can get more information on this Morgan Hall. I was thinking I should report this to the point. No, no, no, no, Well, I had the sound of her dialing recorded on tape. We can figure out the phone numbers and check them against reverse directory his tape. We'll want to get that. Well,
that's I mean, that's protected. Since she's a forensic patient. I can't just hand it over. Who paid for the tape? He's you did, who paid for the machine it was recorded on. I understand, we're working together, So let's work together. Let us let let us contain the situation has I mean, this is a delicate operation. If you go to the police, they'll take care on back into custody, interrupt her treatment cold turkey, and probably start poking around your clinic and
asking questions. God knows what Karen will tell them if they questioned her, and think of her. She's in a pretty fragile state right now. Her house of cards come come crashing down, maybe, but well connected. Not with local police. I'm talking state and federal authorities. Heys all up the ladder, how as we need to go. We put out the word on Morgan Hall, and within twelve hours he'll either be behind bars or too scared to show what face.
You're sure, well, I'm sure I know it's type. If it did make you feel better, we can arrange for an extra layer of security around your hospital. You want that, well, I don't think. I mean, if you're as confident as you say about state and federal authorities, I don't think that will be necessary. Let me get off the phone now, let me put out in all points, get all eyes open and looking for Morgan Hall. I'm sure law enforcement is already aware of this guy. Who knows what other
atrocities this man is committed. You should congratulate yourself has for taking this scum off the streets. Well done, I appreciate that. Summer Hilly. I'm going to go one more thing. Sorry, when this is resolved, just second, please, when this is all over, will they just turn Karen loose? Why shouldn't I Well, she's in such a delicate mental state. I feel like it could be dangerous to just put her on the street. And we've made so much progress and
our shared objective. We should no more interrogation, no more radical treatments. Okay, mission accomplished until we have Morgan Hall under lock and key? Do you hear me Roger that he's no more interrogation understood? I promised that I will not directly involve Karen any further on my inquiry into good Man. I'm hanging up. I gotta get the wheels of justice in motion. You're safe? Do you think it'd be all right if I without involving Karen directly? We
really gotta go. Heyes, call you later. Only when I'm absolutely healthy again will I be released, And only by fully cooperating with Dr Hayes. Can I ever hope to become well again? I have no secrets. There is nothing I can hotel Dr Hayes. If I am ever to get better again, I must cooperate with doctor's little sleep. I can trust Dr. It shouldn't be I must try absolutely healthy, trust doctorately cooperating. I'm a doctor. Can I
ever hope to think? Hows I have secret? Someone's coming? Hey? Hello, Dr Hayes? How she doing? She's resting? How are you doing? What I've been better? I apologize if I lost my composure back there. He telephone call really left me rattled. Should we be worried for her safety? She's fine for hours? Rotry. Has Karen never spoken to you privately since she's been in the sleep room? No? I see her when she's conscious, and she's usually in no condition. She hasn't spoken any names,
given any information like this? Er try no doctor. She once asked to make a telephone call. I noted that in her file. Mm hmmm, so they did keep your ear open. We have to involve the police, but not until we've figured out a bit more about who this Morgan Hall is. Make note of anything she says, whether she's lucid or not, names especially, don't write it in the file. Just tell me this has to do with the criminal charge. My wait, are you? Are you interrogating her?
Is that what this is about? So now, asking a patient a question is considered interrogation. She was placed here for examination and evaluation, not interrogation. Why are you trying to pry information over No one's prying. I'm simply testing. Did the court ask you to find out these answers? No? But who did? Per Tree? You're overstepping your boundaries right now we are understaffed. There's not a vacant bed in
the ward. The paint's peeling off the walls. But as soon as Karen gets here, we have the money to hire Gloria. Suddenly there are five brand new tape recorders, speakers, cameras, enough female barbin sodium to tranquilize an army. Suddenly, come on, you've got it. The drugs, the equipment, all because of her, Because she is a puzzle, a cipher. Solving the puzzle will open up all sorts of resources to us, new technology,
new ideas, new collaborators. This is progress, Virtue. This is where the where the money is, where the future lies. You're used to doing things a certain way, Virtue. I appreciate that, but we need to adapt, and that involves certain challenges, certain risks, a certain disregard for the old way of doing things. I say, when a doctor has been walking the ward too long, he becomes a glorified babysitter, except there's no glory in it. They say he loses
touch with his ambition. Well, I'm not ready to let that happen. Who's they, doctor, Hayes? Big your pardon? Whose flag are you carrying? Absolutely be released only by fully cooperating with Dr Hayes. Can I ever hope to become well again? Central State Hospital? Hello Barbe, it's vergery from b Ward. I Um, I did something foolish and I need a little help in fixing things up. Sure, what
can I help you with? Well? Dr Hayes had a meeting I think it was last Thursday in the auditorium with some visitors, and I was wondering, do you keep a visitor's log or a sign in sheet or anything like that? When when when professional guests are here? Yeah, they sign in like everyone else, whether they're visiting patients or staff. Why Well, I was supposed This is really stupid of me, but I was running nineteen to the
dozen all morning. I had typed up a letter that Dr Hayes dictated, and I threw away the name and the the affiliation of the person to whom the letter was intended. I want me to check the log for Dre. Would you mind? Yes, Summer Hill is the last name s O M E R H I L L And And who is he with s I H s I H E. What is that? I don't know, don't you know? Oh? Right? S I H I think I misheard you. Yep, that's who it was. I remember. Now what is s? I A G. I gotta go since I did this? Will
you cover from good afternoon? Am A. Hello. I'm a ward nurse at Central State Hospital in New Canaan, and I'm hoping you could give me some information about a group that's involved in medical research. Is an institutional or private? I H, I really don't know, I'm I'm just you're the first person I've called to. Why don't I see it? So? What's the name of the group? S? I H. That's all I know? I H. Just a second, and we
keep a record of nonprofits. So hopefully, ah, here we go s I h E. Society for the Investigation of Human Ecology. Huh I H. That's that's what you said, right, that's right, Society for the Investigation of Human Ecology whatever that is human nature. I guess here we go. Established based in psychiatry department at Cornell University. Oh okay, wow. Harold Wolfe is listed as founder and current president. But
this listen maybe a couple of years old. Hold On also have an office at Georgetown Hospital, but it looks like Cornell is the home office. Can you tell me the name of the institutions they support? University of Illinois, Boston's Achiatric Rutgers, University of Pennsylvania, Wisconsin. Do you want a phone number or address? All right? Area code six oh seven mm hmm nine four oh four. Human Ecology, Good afternoon. Hello, Hi, How may I help you? My
name is Virgeri Wilburn. I'm a ward nurse at Yes, I'd like to get some information about the s I h What would you like to know? Um? What kind of organization is it? Is it a private firm or a government agency? Research foundation? Can you tell me about your research? What is it you want to know? Just general terms? Tell you what I'll read? What's in our
informational packet? Thanks? Okay. Founded in nine and housed within the Department of Psychiatric Medicine at Cornell University, the Society for the Investigation of Human Ecology is a nonprofit organization dedicated to the advancement of psychiatric study through financial and logistical support. I see, um, I think I see. So you do research there, No, ma'am, we don't actually conduct the research ourselves, Like I said, we support other people's research.
How's that is that? That's fine, thank you. Uh, the the the brochure you're reading from, would you be able to send me one of those? Well, there's not much in it beyond what you already know. Um. I was interested in knowing if there was a specific focus of the s I h S research. The s doesn't actually can I know? Sorry, I mean as specific area of research that the s I was interested in supporting to
see if my program might qualify for support. I'd be happy to transfer you to someone within the group if you'd like to drop a proposal or Okay, but but we don't have a set agenda or anything like that. M hm ms Wildern. Yes, why don't you ask the question that you obviously want to ask? That's just it. I don't know the question I should ask. Then that makes it really impossible for me to provide an answer, doesn't it. Have a nice day? Hello? Who is this?
Don't you worry? How this? M Tell me where you are? Tell me where she is? No, so I can come get her. That's quite impossible. Nothing's impossible. You above all people should know that. Dr Hayes, Dr Walter, My god, shall I play it again? He cracked her? Then a cracked We still don't know how much he knows. But Morgan knows, he knows, and that soul that really matters. At this point, you had the voice Jesus, He even said his name. Who is this guy? Hay Why haven't
I heard of him? Now? He is nobody? What are we gonna do about Morgan? He's the one we need to be worried about. You can control him, right, there's no controlling you know that, Thomas. We've got to do something. If he goes after Hayes tries to get Karen, you could be a disaster. M hm, what aren't you curious about? What to see? What would happen if Morgan got off the leash, haven't you wondered? No, no, no, we have
to contain it. I'm not so sure. You already liberated Dr Hayes from from the burden of ethics, and look how that turned out. He finally opened his wings. Magnificent. I wonder what would happen? I wonder what Morgan might be capable of if we loosened his restraints. You knew Morgan has no restraints. The Control Group is a production of How Stuff Works, written and directed by Brett Wood, recorded and mixed by Rob gow
