Episode 3 with Brian & Kayla - Exploring the unknown

And it's just doing our thing more online. And with that too, to come in, to talk a little bit about our experiences through this, because both of us were in a completely different situation, but as well to talk a little bit about the unknown. And that's going to be the main topic for this. So the first thing is how are you? Okay. I'm

but no, it will be good to be able to take him out for some more adventures and things, but not doing pretty good. Yeah. I'm excited about this topic. Definitely. kind of in an already at me not to say that we're not always in it. Cause we are, that we, I guess it feels like you're in it more, the unknown more when there's an element of fear attached. Right. Cause we are in the unknown every day, but the everyday doesn't because everything is new and unfolding.

It hasn't happened before, but it's not scary. but when there's a, this seems to be this, yeah, this kind of subtle layer of fear. Which is makes it more of a topic at the moment, I guess.

Now they can see the sky. They can see the mountains behind a lot of that fog or whatever. And in Slack that what's there before that we were so busy, most of us were so busy that we weren't noticing it. And I think the same as you just mentioned with the known night life.

Like every single moment of her life, as much as we aren't the ones that we plan our life and like five year, 10 year plan or whatever still life is like, I don't think anyone, anyone was predicting that this was going to happen. So one year plan or five year plan or whatever. Okay. That's, you're going to be there. The coronavirus and grid are going to be in lock down and everything is kinds of stuff. But as you mentioned this time is I'm bringing it to a whole new level from a lot of people.

and I think in a sense, like we are privileged. We are living in a country that most people living houses, as you can see behind you. And there's some nature people and a lot of people live in your nature. And a lot of people have that capacity of being going out for a walk just a few minutes away from their house. And you're in a beautiful space where they wanted to get a subsidy from the government. Like we have all of this to do things that are quite different than a lot of other places.

So, yeah. And all of a sudden, like, I mean, I, I succinct go to partisan. Like I don't have any responsibilities like with you or with other people, people that have kids in their houses, they can take a completely different experience. I'm just, you know, I'm doing a little bit of work on the computer. I'm doing some planning the rest of the time. I'm meditating. I'm doing online courses. I'm sorry.

And I was unsure. And I just, I remember I wrote it in my journal and it was like, I just want the whole world just stop, just stop.

And let me just catch up, like, just catch my breath, you know, and this period, like that has basically happened, you know, apart from the essential workers, which just like the whole nother level, whole nother story of gratitude and things, but apart from them, or maybe parents, you know, So many of the world, so many people in the world are having an opportunity to just stop and race it.

And I think it's, I mean, you know, that I didn't get that, just do that, with a, with a child, but I'm so excited for, for what comes in. It's funny, like you just said, you know, The unknown is, is a permanent permanent phenomenon. You know, like what time is it now?

So like you said, weren't actually unknown, but were unknown to you because of the fuzziness and that distraction and all of

And I guess you've got an, a, you've got an option don't you, you can either put your head in the sand kind of just. Focus on yourself and get what you're given, you know, and just see what unfolds or you can kind of get on the wave of this collective change and actually be a part of what this new, the new way I think has been called. but like the new world, what it could actually look like.

And knowing that that first step is that when I realize this is what I know. And I know that I don't know a lot of stuff. And then it's like, what is that other thing? But one of the main things would then known that like, for me, it's the potential because there's an openness in that. And it's, what am I coming from to this space? I mean, coming from, from a place of.

Openness and curiosity, but I mean, coming to them known from a place of fear, small, and if I'm going to go in like that, which is mostly what I've tried to do in my life to they're known, it's like, okay, like, I don't know what this is, but I'm going to be open to that because that is the possibility of life. Mm, life is so much bigger than what I'm living. That it is this time. It's that like? Okay. Like the future is unknown now.

What's, what's going to be the new norm, the new way after this, this it's unknown now. So it's, can I be. Open to that. And how can I be in relationship to that? How can they be now and how can I prepare and create that new that is coming?

And I'm separate from you and your little buddy and your little house, the idea that like, We, we are all this one thing and everything around us is a, basically a creation of each one, one of us as an individual. And so, like you say, going into the unknown, we've got the old sort of survival tribal primal system in our bodies that is of course going to approach with fear. And that's good that serves us. But then yeah, like you say, that possibility of. Just the enormity of it.

I don't think any of us can really fathom. And it's interesting, you know, like you said, the portion of what we know to what we don't know is so enormous, but that it's, it's mirrored in so many ways. And now in, in our world, like, for example, what I know that my day is going to be like, versus what, I don't know, what I can see of my body versus. What the big energy in my body, or even the internal newness of my body. When you look at like an atom, what is that point?

Zero, zero, zero have many zeros. Wow. is the matter versus the space of a nation, which is basically what we're all made up. It's a universe, you know, the planet versus, so there's all, there's so many examples of where the non or the matter. It's so tiny compared to the unknown and in nature, it kind of just plays out for the best, right? Cause there's no fear. There's no ego. There's no, like my tree needs to be more green than your tree.

and it's just like total openness to adapting and beauty. And then humans are like, We seem to have this kind of block. And I think it's partly this inherent tribal nature that we have that we're evolving out of.

And in partly a lot of, response to the systems and the ways of life that we've created in the last a hundred years, we were just really gone a little bit off track from what our natural state might be, but that expensiveness, I share that with you in terms of excitement, Ava since the coronavirus sort of came onto our radar. My biggest fear was that we wouldn't get that or that like the world wouldn't see this as. An opportunity. And, now I dunno, we're kind of just into it.

Aren't we, I mean, it's too early to tell, what I'd love to know. I mean, I would, yeah. Imagine if we could just pull everybody right now in the world and find out who's excited, who feels like they can approach this. Next month, six months, year, 10 years. you know, who connect approach that with openness and expensiveness and breathe into it. And who's feeling like Holy shit, the rug has been pulled out from underneath me. And I'm, I'm shitting my, I want to go back to how it was.

I wish this never happened. Why can't we just go back to pre. December November last year. And yeah, I'd love to know. I'd love her though. Actually, just, I'm sorry, Brian. if anyone, like, if you're listening and you're, you know, which camp you're in drop in the comments, like, let us know how you're feeling.

Are you despite, you know, the small fears of like, Oh, I better stay in my bubble because if I don't, I might catch it and then I might give it to my grandma and blah, blah, blah, that, those little fees that good there. Living with a set of rules that were combined glasses. Not that yes, exactly. but if you're feeling that expensiveness, we would just love to hear.

And we were taken out of that about how from. Expanding that view to another higher and important different perspective, or they mention, we are always given the circumstances of what we need to learn, whether we are in a more challenging and shitty situation or right. A nice situation. We had all been given what. We need to work with what we are able to have. What do we need to learn? So one of the things with this situation, which is also unknown, is asking ourselves what I need to learn.

What is it that I need to learn right now? What about my circumstances? Anything that is broken, you know, my boat, like what is that trying to tell me about my experience, but as for some people, it is perhaps triggering something about like emotionally or triggering something about finances or in the way that we've been living life or like how we've been relating to other people. You know, the people that aren't having known that.

They are able to connect with the families much more than usual. Like that is a huge change. And being able to understand that, you know, essentially workers, some workers are, and, and also what are we putting on what attention now? Because we all have different circumstances, but what we're putting our attention on, what are we allowing? I talk a lot.

About surrendering and the surrendering for me, a big part of, because I have to know it, so I need to be open and surrender, but this is not a blind surrendering. This is a surrendering to what's coming. But as you've said before, this is a cocreation that can lead to and do whatever we have as a society circumstances as civilization. This is all from that co-creation part. But that doesn't mean that it's individual house. Conscious participation into that consciousness.

I might tell, be timely and positive and bit about, thinking about sustainability and climate animals and this and that. And I'm still like overall consciousness, overhaul of consciousness. There was a lot of fear that vibration is coming from a different perspective. So how can we allow ourselves to go into that unknown and to surrender and to start to create more consciously? And I think, yes, this is an amazing opportunity because.

No. What's like, I mean, I don't even know, like I'm going from it to a smaller perspective. I don't even know next week we are supposed to come to the end of the four week block down here and you sit down, I dunno if it's next week moving to another like level or if we were continuing in the same way, like even that is unknown. So if, if that is an unknown, What about how is the life we're going to look like afterwards? It's the financial system going to change completely. I have no idea.

To me is your access point into that big thing. So it's, so the times that we're going through now where we're feeling the most pain, or maybe the things that we're missing the most, or maybe the things that we are clinging to, they're all really interesting signposts for us and really in really good ways of.

Getting to know who we are, what kind of archetype or patterns we're plugged into and then which ones can we shift and what, or just even looking at them, you know, how do I feel about say sport, for example? Am I carrying that there's no sport on where am I, the, am I really missing it? Or I don't even notice. Does that mean I'm plugged into it? Like what, what does that mean for me? And what does that mean about who I am?

And just such a really interesting time to look at those excess points into the collective and then take responsibility for them. Cause they hear what you're saying about surrender. And I think about that a lot. talk about that a lot with clients. And I also just probably, I use the word trust and in deep connection with that because, You have to trust that whatever is coming is coming from not from us, I guess we co-create, but we cocreate as a whole. So it's like a personal thing.

Like I asked for this, I get this. So what kind of going to get what we're given, but we need it,

And to me it feels like because we, even the fact that we're talking about the unknown and where that even come from it, to me, this is a big spiritual shift that will. Yeah, I dunno. I just feel really excited about it. I can't even remember what we're talking about with the trust thing. And I also, you made me think about a video that I, I made recently about the way, a way to think about it.

If you have someone who's a bit for a bit scared of the unknown and you know, it's the unknown, but you don't really know how to approach it. I don't think I've talked about this in a previous podcast. I'll just going to quickly go, go over it. If you imagine your, if you put your hands into like a bowl and you imagine that. You as an individual are putting your bowl out into the universe of the world.

And you're sort of saying like, okay, unknown, like what's going to drop in for me, you know, is it going to be a new job? Is it going to be a new place? It's going to be a new partners are going to be a new financial system. What does the world look like? And you kind of put your ball out and you're like, alright, drop it in. You know, A lot of us will be like, yes, I'm excited for this, that or the other.

But behind that excitement is this like, Oh my God, like the place I need to be like this or that, or like, fuck. So he sent me to be like that last one, or, you know, I think I want this, but I really hope I don't want that. And it's those other thoughts, those thoughts in the background that are creeping into the bowl and the way we line the ball is.

Like, if you can call it a vibrational match, or if you're thinking about baking, think about the baking paper, lining the bowl, like whatever you line your ball with and whatever we lined the collective bowl with. Is going to match what, you know, what drops in. So you need to be really aware of what we're lining the ball with.

And I think that what was just saying about those touch points in those areas that we're able to really think about and sit with and reflect on at the moment are good places to start when it comes to creating. You're aligning your bowl lining and really being sure that what you're consciously putting out there as well. One is the same as what you asked subconsciously, you know, trying to really line up. So you really know like, okay, drop it in. Whatever comes.

I trust that it's the right thing for me and I'm excited about it and it's going to be great. Doesn't it? ACOM be black and white. It's gotta be gray.

If at the same time that I'm putting that insight into the world, I'm putting on there, my migration as well in that, like, I am not good enough or like, who's going to love me or anything like that. Then those are the competing and that's, as you said, like that line. And it's the interesting thing around this time, because I've been, I try not to spend that much time on social media.

But because I work using social media, then I'm going to actually say some things and, and I've been seeing how there's a lot of ideas, new, coming from like a conspiracy theory perspective. even though I, I love that because I do love questioning. I love the question by itself. Like for me, one of my biggest bronchitis is questioning and not thinking anything. I said, just questioning.

one of the key things that I think not fully this moment is especially for anyone that is studying to awaken a little bit more and to make a different consciousness or a different way of being, and anyone that has been on this process is. Even though it's good to question and it's good. And to do that, what Nick, what if there's, what if that happened? Like, what if someone created this? What if someone like is benefiting from this? What if, you know. Does that change anything? Really?

I was listening to someone, they were asked something around this. They were talking about things from it. Completely spiritual perspective. And they were asked, what did they think about? And I have no idea too much because I'm not footing as many details on this, but they asked him about Gates and about the vaccines. And if you things like that, I said, I didn't really care. Like if I said, like, if that is actually something that is happening. There's nothing that I can do about that.

What I can do something about it is keeping them hi, keeping my openness to the world, my work, and not getting, not getting literally drawn into this rabbit hole of this lower vibration. How is that helping me? How, because we are, co-creating like if I get myself into that vibration and that train of thought, I'm also putting that into the world. So this is not about. Questioning thinking critically and not understanding and questioning the government.

We've taken advantage of people and people's freedoms. This is not about not questioning this, about how much of my attention I'm putting into that. Hmm. And how much I am allowing it, especially if I have the time to shift me and sitting and meditating and opening and allowing myself to go to that place of the unknown, because for most of us, and this is one of the practices that we can only do, let's just sitting and going to them now in a very specific way. Who am I like that question for me?

That it's a key question. Cool. And seeing what comes into that openness, because nobody knows who they are. So anxious, allowing ourselves to understand that there's a lot happening in this moment where we put our attention and intention and the energy is going to flow there. So like, where do you want to put your attention and where do you want the energy to go through?

It's like, what happens when we die? Why are we here? What happens when we die? And she talks about the fact that, you know, Centuries ago when we started religions that provided, did a, an answer provided and non about the unknown. You know, it was like a belief that, that came from outside of yourself. It came through a religion and it was, you know, you could apply it to yourself and you could join in community and align with others in this, in this kind of shared belief that.

This religion had an idea about what happened after you died. And he has obviously lots of different three, four main is it presidentials, but you know, we, we had this idea that if we kind of bought into this external. Idea that we would have the ultimate answer. We could believe in a nonsense of the ultimate unknown. And now she talks about how sort of over time that has, has changed. And we've been kind of coming away from the church, pulling away from religion a little bit.

And now I guess we're in a position where we're the idea of, of a God or the idea of all the answers are actually within us. To be found within each one of us, which potentially was the message the whole time. But I mean, the way it was delivered in, you know, created a bit of duality. And now I think that the general awareness is starting to become that it's within us to find. And if you can't be quiet, it sits. And listen and ask those open questions.

You can't, even, if you can't even ask the question, how are you going to find the answer? And so I, I agree that, and we've been gifted the gift of time in lockdown. but whether we're knocked down or not, I think that that is such an important thing to be doing right now.

That's such an important thing, less about physical things, listen, getting out and making sure they're running every day and all these other incredible things that are going to uplift everybody like the family time and all that stuff that we really need to take this opportunity to sit and ask ourselves those questions and connect and really discover our intuition that has never left, but really connect with that because I think that's.

From that place we can get into the really authentic reasons of why, why do we care about this? What do we, you know, how do we, I feel, how do we want to move forward? What do we want to line up? What exciting potentials could come from this unknown? What do I actually, you know, how do I want to think about that? As opposed to being fed an idea from our side of ourselves,

I'm not aware of how much we can expand the time when we delay with time, because time is not this linear thing. Time we can experience so much inside of 24. Yeah. Depending on how open and out of consciousness that we have. And I think that all the time, the more open, the more that we understand, there's a way that now modern dads only Lisa.

Then one of would connect because that connects inside and outside the main issue within the outside for most of us, isn't that the outside there stimuli, we get caught up with dance and instead of being able to connect with them, that's why it's so important when we are outside. To go to nature because nature, even though it's not like living in the middle of the VCC, like in the city center there, if you go to nature and you by a tree, you started connecting to that energy.

You start connecting with this sounds like that is that connection. And that's connection. We would create the interplay of kenosis from within and from without, because we have allowed them to come in and we're allowing us to connect outside. And for a lot of people then going in, it's super challenging because most of us didn't learn that when we were in school, we learn the word kids. If it's only a few people.

Perhaps it's millions, but still we were lucky enough to either cover home practice and being able to take the time to go and meditate and do yoga or whatever it is. In new Orleans, there's a way of doing this outwardly. That might be more accurate. It requires sometimes to not have as much stimuli. So if you're able to go outside and go to nature and to do that, awesome can go in. Like we have what we need. And that's always been there.

And as you say, that comes from religious or spiritual perspective, it's like every religion comes from a spiritual place. It's just created more structures around those beliefs, some different people that way. And some people want it that way. The main thing. Because I think of myself as a spiritual person and not a religious person, but I still think about. Religious people that talked about trust.

Like there's that sense of trust on faith and that's for a lot of people that is what allows them to be on that. And to trust them life, isn't going to bring them they name. So regardless of what perspective they're coming from, it is.

How are we allowing ourselves to interact with that, which is silent and within, and that, which is an unknown and to be able to ride the waves of life and to be able to say, you know, this, this is precedent in thing that is happening, but there's one last, like, I mean, it might last. A few weeks, a few months, a few years on a MIG perspective, this is nothing. It's just the same as like, you know, with space.

When we started Eric, if like sometimes I say what's this video that they started looking at someone and they started going out and then you see the earth and then you see the planets in the Milky way. And then you keep on going out and it's like, Yeah. Okay. Right on one sense would insignificant and another sense, everything the same with this time, because this time is the only thing like right now, it's the only thing that exists like this moment tomorrow.

The next year and five years in 20 years, this isn't going to be like, just so how come we play with that dynamic? And the possibility in that also what it is. It's not the end of the world. Like it's not everything. It is everything. And it's not complete with that. And I think then it's like, for me, one of the biggest things, so my own practices, how can I maintain that balance of this present moment now? what happened? What is coming on? How can I play with me the more open that I am? Good.

And I guess now if mutations gave you something to cling, cling to gave you something to work towards, even though the goal is still to find expensiveness and to relinquish those expectations and to go into the unknown, to have maybe intentions, but to not be attached now, Even expectation has kind of been taken away. It's very, very confronting for people who like control.

And that's when I sort of saying before about the grayness, you know, if you live in a world where everything is black or white, and if you live in the black, you swap and there's this right or wrong, blah, blah, blah. And the now. Yeah, very time. And I think that in what you were just talking about, there's a lot of, a lot of tools and ideas that people can take for, coping, through this time, they, I mean, what you said about nature is it's like this universal. What to do.

Like it's an easy thing that everybody can do, but we, I dunno for some reason, a lot of us don't do it. And I think it's a nice reminder and the way you put it was really beautiful of finding a less distracted and busy way to be in that in an app, in an app. And it had totally talks about the, a to be in. In the outside and the inside at the same time and find that nice balance.

And another thing that I wanted to, elaborate on with what you're saying is, you know, that meditation that you're talking about and going in and connecting, it's not something that is, an accessible to anyone, you know, it's, it's there for everybody. And whether you. Yeah, whether you meditate or whether you surf or whether you run or would it be you do the results and the potential for that expansion, that different perspective and that knowing, and that flow is the same for everybody.

And it's also, doesn't come down to like, whether you've done it before, or you've been doing it for 10 years or today's the first day or tomorrow, it's like, it's open, it's available. To everyone. And as soon as you start committing to it, you just never know what kind of path that will will take you on. And I think that relinquishing any expectations around what that path looks like for you is also important at this time, because your answers lie there.

And if you're looking for something specific, that's something black or white and it's gray. You won't see it. You just need to go, go in. However you do that and just let go of everything and just see. Well, what comes?

So I think that this actually might be goes on for another episode to be able to elaborate about being able for me coming back to the main topic of today's episode. What, what can create and then unknown if endless unknown has all of the possibilities. I think there's a, in the Buddhist tradition, there is a topic in English translated as emptiness, emptiness, emptiness. It's charged with any negativity and with nothing.

Whereas when I started learning about the topic that it's that understanding that it's, that everything is in there. It's the potentiality that, that life comes from that place. Certainly we are able to just stay in that place of openness potentiality. Endless, we wanting to create whatever we come from or we're coming from that open space or from that closed space. Now we're able to create what we want to create and I'm not really interested. It's listening.

What, what is it that you would like if you make. Because we have the opportunity now, right? If you had the chance to decide, how does the world look after this period? What does that look like? Just send us another comment and it's just let us know. And it's really interesting because a lot of people have thought about that. Some people have, but most people are assessing and going through the situation. Now I haven't actually taken the time to say. What do I want the world to look like?

And I think the, that the monitor that's my,

I don't like that. I don't want it like that. And then you get these opportunities. That's when you have the, the example I say before about putting your bowl out and thinking that you're excited about, but then everything you're thinking about is what you don't want. So, yeah, like you say, it's a really exciting opportunity to think about what, what we do want, because the more, the more people on the planet that can be thinking positively about what might come.

With the edit expensiveness and openness to the unknown, the more potential we have to actually create

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