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The Computer Room

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A show about our lives online.

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Call-In Show #7: Ghost in the Machine

I’m Katherine Dee. I read in an industry newsletter that I should re-introduce myself in every post. I’m an Internet ethnographer and reporter. This newsletter is filled with interviews, takes on current events, a sporadic advice column, Craigslist-style missed connections, Internet culture explainers, streams, a book club, predictions and forecasts… There’s a lot of stuff. I also spend maybe 20 hours a week talking to people about how they use the Internet. Consider chipping in $2 for my effort...

May 23, 20251 hr 40 min

Natural Instinct vs. Control

This is a story I wrote in 2021? 2022? Published in Compact Mag (not the political site). I’ve posted and re-posted it here several times. Here’s a radio drama version. As usual, I ask for your patience with audio quality. default.blog is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. “Here is natural instinct and here is control. You are to combine the two in harmony. If you have one to the extreme, you will be very unscien...

Apr 05, 20256 min

What Is the Cultural Script For Six-Armed Babies? ft. Dr. Josie Zayner

Today on The Computer Room, Katherine talks to Dr. Josie Zayner of the Los Angeles Project about genetic engineering and building the impossible. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit default.blog/subscribe

Feb 21, 20251 hr 1 min

AI Natives

On today’s episode of The Computer Room, Katherine talks to Philip Rosedale, founder of Linden Lab, not just about Second Life, but about other synthetic lives. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit default.blog/subscribe

Feb 07, 202558 min

AI and the Return of the Unknowable

Join Katherine and producer Taylor McMahon as they discuss Meta’s plans for AI-generated users. Gio returns next week for his regular hosting duties. Read Katherine’s article on the same topic here . 00:00 Introduction and Greetings 00:39 Meta’s AI Generated Users 02:47 Implications of AI in Social Media 04:56 Human Element in Social Media 08:17 AI's Impact on Culture and Taste 21:39 Fictosexuality and Imaginary Relationships 24:27 The Influence of Environment on Human Behavior 26:01 The Future ...

Jan 06, 202547 min

Traumagotchi Redeemed?

Leah Prime from our fantastic Art Bell episode and of the blog We Own the Night and I talked about my initial reaction to friend.com’s chatbot launch… and why I might be wrong about it after all. This is an experimental format I’m releasing to paid subscribers only right now. Please share your feedback! It’s very likely that a more polished version will be un-paywalled later in the week… But I wanted to get a temperature check first. Do you guys like it? Should I do more? Articles referenced: Av...

Nov 18, 202442 min

Be My Escape

Katherine talks to Sam L. Barker about the enduring legacy of pop-punk and emo, and crucially, about how it all coalesced online. You can also listen to this on Spotify , Apple Podcasts , and YouTube .Read Katherine’s article about blink-182’s unique brand of humor here .Subscribe to Sam’s Substack here . A note from Sam: Be My Escape is an essay and podcast project where I look over some of the most enduring emo (I use the term culturally and loosely) and pop-punk albums of the 00s. I want to g...

Oct 29, 202435 min

Adam Lanza Fan Art

Paid subscribers are receiving this a little bit earlier than free subscribers. Katherine reads her Tablet article, “Adam Lanza Fan Art,” a deep dive into the elusive True Crime Community (TCC), a small fandom of mostly adolescents and young adults who treat school shooters and serial killers in the same way other fans might treat boyband members. After the show, in a special Q&A with producer Taylor, Katherine talks about her experiences with hostile people online, why she chose to write ab...

Oct 09, 202457 min

First Time Caller: An Art Bell Tribute

In this episode of The Computer Room, Katherine and friends talk about Art Bell's legacy. We meet Leah Prime, who's writing a book about Art Bell, John Steiger who on a mission to hand transcribe every single episode of Coast to Coast AM, and Joseph Matheny, the mind behind Ong's Hat. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit default.blog/subscribe...

Sep 18, 202450 min

Would You Still Love Me If I Swallowed a Worm?

Katherine and Gio discuss “Things Have Gotten Worse Since We Last Spoke,” a novella by Eric LaRocca about a complex BDSM relationship between two women that unfolds through emails, forum posts, and instant messages in 2000. They talk about what it meant to “log on” in 2000, lesbian media, and whether online relationships are uniquely suited to BDSM dynamics. Gio also reveals that, somehow, he didn’t know Katie Herzog of BARPod is a lesbian. Help make “number go up” by subscribing: This is a publ...

Jul 09, 202457 min

The Digital Is Deceitful Above All Things

“The most un-American thing you can do is reject fame.” In a recorded phone call, Katherine and Laura Albert, the writer best known for JT Leroy, explore the fuzzy boundaries of truth and fiction in our digital era. They discuss the telephone as a medium, catfishing, imagination, and lying as a form of storytelling. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit default.blog/subscribe...

Jun 25, 20242 hr 21 min

My Little Polemical

Katherine talks to a brony Zoomer about being online, mediated friendships, the fantastical world of My Little Pony, and the revival that the fandom is experiencing right now. Buy your Mare Fair tickets here , read the infamous MLP fan fic “The Lunar Rebellion” here , and watch the first four seasons of MLP here . This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit default.blog/subscribe...

Jun 21, 20241 hr 23 min

The Internet Is Power

Kickstarter and Metalabel cofounder Yancey Strickler walks in on Gio and Katherine gossiping. Together, they talk about the meaning of gossip, the Internet as a source of power, and what happens when everything moves from main to the group chat. Check out Metalabel . Read Yancey's writing: The Dark Forest Theory of the Internet The Post-Individual This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit default.blog/subscribe...

Jun 17, 20241 hr 11 min

Grady and the Real Girl

Lauren and Grady are Chicago’s hottest couple. Katherine and Grady talk about playing a role that’s not yourself but based on yourself, their appearance on Help! I'm In a Secret Relationship, where all the weirdos have gone on the Internet, if those chamoy pickles were worth it, and his relationship with Lauren. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit default.blog/subscribe...

Jun 10, 20241 hr 21 min

The Millennial Left as a Moment in Internet History

This week, Gio and I are joined by Benjamin Studebaker, a writer, political theorist, leftist, and former co-host of the infamous podcast “What’s Left?” to discuss the Millennial Left. One question I wish we had asked, and I invite our audience to leave their thoughts about, is whether there is/was a meaningful difference between the Millennial Left and the Tumblr Left. Was the latter a subset of the former, or did it have its own unique character? In the future, I’d like to explore the contours...

Jun 07, 20241 hr 41 min

What Was the Alt-Right?

What exactly was the alt-right? A digital subculture? A political movement? An umbrella term encompassing several contradictory movements? What did the press get wrong? Katherine and Gio sit down with Scott Greer and attempt to demystify What Happened eight years ago… BTW, if you’re reading this, and you know who you are, YOU WILL come on this show and talk to us about the #GamerGate/imageboard component of the history of fringe right-wing politics. This is a threat…I will stop at nothing until ...

Apr 12, 20242 hr 7 min

A Cyberethnography of Imagination

Katherine sat down with cyberethnographer and artist Ruby Justice Thelot and discussed the role of imagination in computer-mediated communication, paracosms, building durable relationships with AI, and more. * Ruby's book, A Cyberarcheology of Checkpoints * Ruby's Twitter * Ruby's blog * A really cool video Ruby made, Why Aliens Love America This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit default.blog/subscribe...

Apr 08, 20241 hr 22 min

My Husband Lives In Another Reality... Literally

I spoke to 23-year-old reality shifter Maddie about her experiences traveling to other timelines. You may have heard of reality shifting before—probably through the lens of the now-familiar genre of ”this dangerous TikTok trend is endangering your kids” clickbait . ‘Reality shifting’ is, simply put, when people shift their consciousness to another timeline—an alternate reality—including ones with fictional elements. My friend Esmé Partridge has written about reality shifting extensively through ...

Apr 05, 202429 min

Dating 6 Women at Once Is the Most Fun a Podcast Bro Can Have Without Getting Cancelled

Katherine and Gio discuss the Cut's Andrew Huberman profile, what does and doesn't count as "being political," emo kids, and which up-and-coming public intellectuals they want to model themselves after. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit default.blog/subscribe

Apr 01, 20242 hr 4 min

seduction.com

Ross Jeffries, the author of How to Get the Women You Desire into Bed, The Secrets of Speed Seduction Mastery and webmaster of seduction.com and speedseduction.ai, is considered the Godfather of the Red Pill. In his own words, he "doesn’t know s**t about relationships, but he can teach you how to get laid." Gio and Katherine sit down and talk to him about the first PUA newsgroup, alt.seduction.fast, seduction.com, and how the PUA community evolved and the Manosphere developed into what it is tod...

Mar 09, 20241 hr 22 min

Coming of Age as a Gay Nerd Who's Afraid of Sex

Katherine and Gio review the wonderfully weird film Rukus (2018) , which is one part of coming of age story and one part mockumentary about furries. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit default.blog/subscribe

Feb 12, 20241 hr 56 min

"Friends in your head disorder."

Katherine sat down with Tal from the Tally Mark System to discuss the much-misunderstood Dissociative Identity Disorder and its complementary TikTok community. You can find Tal here . "Windows have become a powerful metaphor for thinking about the self as a multiple, distributed system," Turkle writes. "The self is no longer simply playing different roles in different settings at different times. The life practice of windows is that of a decentered self that exists in many worlds, that plays man...

Feb 09, 202433 min

Pretty Intense New Year Episode

In our first episode of 2024 (naturally recorded in September), we interview pretty intense early Japanese language YouTuber applemilk1988 about Stickam, Encyclopedia Dramatica, proto-e-girls, and living in Japan. * That McDonald’s ad from forever ago * applemilk1988's YouTube channel * applemilk1988's Twitch This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit default.blog/subscribe...

Jan 05, 20241 hr 29 min

Man and Animal and Otherkin

Gio and Kat discuss Agamben's book The Open: Man and Animal and what it has to do with otherkins. They read some of it out loud and may or may have not butchered some of the pronunciations. If you need to fast-forward through those parts, peep the PDF of the book here . This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit default.blog/subscribe...

Dec 05, 20231 hr 33 min

A Conversation With a Young Woman In a Relationship with a Cartoon Character

Fictophilia. Today, I spoke to fictophile/fictosexual Cait Calder about what it’s like to have a fictional crush. When I first talked about fictosexuality over at UnHerd , I got a lot of pushback: Why does this need to be labeled? Don’t all women do this? To some extent, sure. The success of Twilight and Fifty Shades is illustrative. Before that, Stephen King wrote an entire book about women's tendency to fall in love not only with fictional characters but with fiction itself— Misery . But that ...

Dec 04, 202329 min

Fictional Soul in a Human Body

A couple of weeks ago, I interviewed nabby ( @inviteonlycomic on Instagram), a former fiction-kin. You can listen to it here or on The Computer Room main feed . Before I explain what a fictionkin is, we first need to understand what an otherkin is. Otherkin refers to an identity category where one’s soul does not match one’s body. There are human otherkin, like is often the case with fictionkin, mediakin, or otakin/otakukin, who identify with fictional characters, and historykin, who identify wi...

Nov 20, 202338 min

Why Don’t You Take a Seat In Lucas' Room?

Gio and Katherine discuss the 2005 film Hard Candy, To Catch A Predator, Lucas' room, and the moral panic around and reality of chatroom pedophiles. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit default.blog/subscribe

Oct 26, 20231 hr 33 min

The Myth of "Girl Internet"

Katherine is DONE with Zoomers re-writing Internet history and being smug to her about it. It is NOT a girl's world, ladies -- at least online. Gio has some other ideas. She and Gio discuss WIRED's " Everyone Is A Girl Online ," miladys, Biggie Slonk, pregnant Megumins, and the myth of the "Girl Internet." They collectively mispronounce Tiqqun at least a dozen times. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit default.blog...

Oct 07, 20232 hr 26 min

the e-boy's guide to e-dating, e-girls, and e-ating disorders

Vers and Lukas drop by and talk about e-dating, e-girls, e-ating disorders, and secret political Facebook groups. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit default.blog/subscribe

Sep 26, 20231 hr 49 min

No One Is Talking About Fake Accounts

Steff and Katherine discuss Lauren Oyler's Fake Accounts and Patricia Lockwood's No One Is Talking About This. Warning, Katherine struggles through a Harper's review. She got a little too big for her britches with the whole "reading quotes out loud" thing. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit default.blog/subscribe...

May 10, 202356 min
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