What Else Are We Gonna Talk About?

I start today's podcast saying I'm sick of talking about Trump and then...we talk about Trump. Which is suggestive of everything about American politics at this moment. Then: did Maui's emergency management chief do an honorable thing or a cowardly thing quitting his job in the middle of the disaster? Give a listen. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices