#301 - Tom Ford For Men Extreme: A Discontinued Disagreement

hello , ladies and gentlemen , welcome to episode 301 of the cologne podcast .

I'm mike and I'm ryan . We're two best friends . We're going on a fragrance journey , smelling vintage fragrance sent in by patreons and giving you uneducated opinions that's right .

Jonathan sent us this . Yes , he did . Uh , this is part of a stipulation which by the Jonathan . I'll put this out on the air . I have not paid him yet for the cologne bottle that he sent me , that he got me for my dad's episode . And , jonathan , by the time this airs , I promise you check is in the mail and thank you . He gave me a good deal .

It's like that old lady off of Clockwork Orange . Instead it's just different camel toes , Genius username . Yeah , the camel totem says you know that feeling when you're cuddling with your cat and then it turns around and shows its ass in your face . That's what this smells like .

What does that even mean ?

I don't know what a camel totem is . I've never cuddled with a cat and it's showing its ass . Yeah , and bill sharps down .

What the hell ? Okay , well , um , what do you think this thing ? You think it's gonna smell like a cat's ass . Is that what he's trying to say ?

I don't know , maybe they went extra , whored on the ginger or something and it's got like a little funkiness to it , you know , because that was part of the tom ford , for men had that ginger bite to it , but we loved that it was so fucking good , dude , I'm excited .

But before we get into today's episode , we got to do our one night stand review of episode . We celebrate it . Episode 300 , that's right . Triumph of bacchus by argos . Hit the music

Yes , I'm with you . Yes , it smells incredible . Yes , I'm with you . The longevity is amazing On the skin . It's in the same ballpark as the Carlisles and the Red Tobaccos and the Hafez 1984s yeah , so it's close . Not the same thing . To me it's the best of the bunch , smells great .

Yeah , let me give Nikki a call and see what her one nice day in review of this would be .

Do it , Ryan . You're connected to Nikki via the cell phones .

Let me do this .

Hello .

Hey Nikki . This is Mike and Ryan of the Cologne Podcast . Hi .

How are you doing today ?

I'm wonderful . How are y'all ?

We're doing fantastic . We came here today with a mission really quick . Sorry if this is my radio voice here for a second , but it is absolutely a radio voice , but okay . You don't always talk like that . No , I'll try to be . Okay , fuck it , I'm getting me , I'm getting me , I'm getting me . Here's me .

hey , nikki , uh , we got to do this episode really quick , uh , oh no , go ahead , go . No , this is more like you , okay , um , hey , nikki , it's ryan not the quiver in your voice , it's's about the cry .

It's so accurate .

All right , look , assholes . Okay , we got this . We did this episode last week . You did Triumph of Bacchus with it . We all loved it A little bit . You've had times to rest on it a bit . What do you think about it right now ? What would you say about it after smelling it ? You kind of had your you know your day in the sun with it .

I loved it . I smelled it all day long . I loved it .

I would totally wear that yeah , do you feel like it is unisex , like you'd wear the hell out of it too ?

I do think I would wear it . I think it's more of a female scent than a male scent , I don't know , it's almost yeah , because it's so light and fresh and kind of fruity . I feel like it's more on the female side , but I love it . I would wear the hell out of it .

Well , if you want to borrow it , you want to bring some muffins up here ? We can do a little swap .

Oh , absolutely .

You can have all the muffins . Yeah , I want strawberry and blueberry Together or a batch of each .

Oh wow , no , no , not together . I want strawberry and blueberry Together , or a batch of each .

Oh wow , no , no , not together , I want them separate . I want separate blueberry and strawberry muffins . They're delicious yeah .

Guess I can't say no , huh .

Mm-mm . You can't Not if you want to borrow this bottle .

Fabulous , fabulous , love that for me .

Well , nikki , let me tell you what else you're going to love . You're going to love the fact that we're now ending this call , because we got everything out of you that we needed .

Fabulous , have a great day yeah .

You too . So there you go , guys . She says she'd wear the hell out of it .

She would , and she thinks it's more feminine , which blows my mind , because I've never heard anybody pitch it that way ever .

Yeah , I feel like it definitely is unisex . I can see a man wearing it , yeah , but I can see a woman wearing it does smell good , it does have that white peach note going on and it is so pretty . Yeah , I guess sweets kind of spicy , honestly , as it does dry down more , I probably would agree even more with her that it does lean more feminine .

I'm a man , baby , let me wear that white peach . But on the real , we'll let her borrow it , and then it may be a topic we bring up in the chat section of the patreon or something for sure , get a little further down the line . Maybe we'll let nikki spend more than just a night or two in the bed with old argos .

really funny thing , I gotta read you really quick . Speaking of triumph , of bacchus and the patreon . Okay , I got a message from one of our fellow patrons and , by the way , if you're not a patron , shame on you . Go be a patron . There's a lot of good people in there and it's a lot of fun . Luke S wrote us literally the other day .

You'd love it , you'd buy it . Yeah , absolutely . And if you're in a relationship you may , you know , share , yeah , you can do that too . That's one of those you can justify . I got it for us , for me and you . Yeah , yeah , and nicky now well , there you go .

There's our one night stand review of triumph of bacchus by argos . Now let's put our sniffers on tom ford for men .

Extreme by tom

the other tom ford for men and edt . Yes , interesting , because that shit went harder than most tom fords today .

Yeah , and this is weird too , because you'd figure if they'd go with an extreme , they'd probably be making like an edp out of it . Yeah , I'm with you maybe here we go . Let's see , this was early on . This is supposed to be cat ass , by the way .

Yeah , thanks for that , vivid Pitcher .

Ooh , I think I have a correlation here . Ryan . Really , what do you have ? What do you have in mind ? This smells like the genesis of Tom Ford Noir .

Hmm , okay , I'm going to say something crazy here . Go ahead . I like what it's doing , but I don't like the profile .

Okay , that seems confusing right , yeah , do you want to clear that up for us ? Me , the listeners .

It's got a very masculine , yet kind of almost sweet , not rum , almost like sweet alcohol burn . I can't explain it , but there's just something about the mixture that feels a little off to me . But it's masculine . It's not as loud I don't feel like as the original Tom Ford for men . Do you think it's as loud ? Because I'm not feeling ?

it . I don't know . I don't have my finger on the pulse of that one enough to really know , but this reminds me of Tom Ford Noir , which is just a dark , spicy vanilla , but it's not a sweet vanilla .

I don't fucking like this .

Really .

Yeah , I'm not a fan , Dude Jonathan . I'm so sorry because I know if , by the time we get to the section of price and popularity , this is probably up there for being some vintage , discontinued shit . But I am not vibing this . Are you vibing this ?

I am vibing this really , yeah , I really like it , huh , because it reminds me of tom ford noir . Early on , when we first got into fragrances , you hit me to Ombre Leather so I got really horny about some Tom Ford . Yeah , you're really horny , yeah , yeah .

By the way , off subject on subject , you do this thing . You're kind of like a woman sometimes with me . Okay , if I say I like something , I feel like I never smell it again on you . Oh , and was it the Tom Ford Noir de Noir that I really liked that time ? Yes , I can literally remember the outfit you were wearing because we went to ace hardware store .

I remember it too it's like a button old navy , navy blue button up white polka dots that's right .

Yep , I've like been chasing that dragon for you to wear that again . You never wore it again . It was smelled amazing .

Well , we did the episode on it and then I gave I think you didn't like it . Really I have I have to go back and listen , but I gave the because it was a travel atomizer I had . I gave that to Licky .

Licky . Let us know what you thought about that when you come on the show . Eventually , I'm not liking this profile you like ?

this . What about it ? You don't like the profile of it .

It's like kind of sweet sour thing going on , like not sour like a sour candy , like sour like it's . Maybe it not Like it went bad . Yeah , but I know that the fragrance hasn't went bad , it's just .

Yeah , this is actually a carded sample from Tom Ford . God damn , that's crazy From back in the Dizzy .

I'm not vibing it , dude .

I'm actually kind of disappointed this is shocking because I thought that this fragrance would have been leaning more towards the noir extreme . Yeah , I thought it was going to go sweeter . I definitely thought it was going to be an EDP . Shocked that this is an EDT . They just did things differently back then . What was this 11 years ago ?

I got to double check now I feel like I should have knew that 100% Sorry , I've got to know that .

But if I had to guess and I'm probably wrong , but if I had to guess , it did what I thought it was going to do , which is it really pepped up , that ginger vibe you think so ? I would have never guessed that in the original Tom Ford Noir that I smelled 2007 .

This was 2007 . Wow , quite a bit of ways Almost two years short of being 20 years , pretty much .

Yeah , much so . Smelling this now and tracing the line back from tom ford for men to tom ford for men extreme it does feel like they turn the dials up a little bit you're gonna think I'm crazy .

Yeah , but the tester strip's coming around right now okay , let me smell her it's spicy . Don't know if I like it , but it's coming around . Let me give you the price and popularity on this really quick . Okay , hip

You feel like that's 400 worthy To the right person , maybe , yeah , okay .

Popularity it's got a staggering 1,282 reviews , 4.35 out of 5 .

Man that's pushing close to Triumphal Bacchus . Yeah , and I'm a little shocked .

Those numbers are high . I'm a little shocked at that popularity . I don't feel like it's justified . Do you feel like it's justified ? Be real , I don't think it's justified .

You and I are on opposing sides on this one , because there's something in here that I'm like . I feel like it's not replicated today . Yeah , even when I smell this compared to , in my mind , tom Ford Noir , which they smell very similar to me there's something about this one that I kind of like a little more .

Hmm , god , on the burn in it just feels like rich and decadent . Hmm god , I guess I can somewhat agree with that , but I just that this profile is not doing . Speaking of profile , let me give you the doesn't have a perfume pyramid . There's no top , middle and base notes . This is just one of those ones . It's just a . Here's all the notes ?

To this , yeah well , as we've claimed , I got you , you fucking . No , sorry , we're uneducated morons , so it's not like I'm claiming to be able to sniff out this shit here's where I think I'm being thrown off because I don't think I'm a fan of this Truffle .

Oh , Isn't that kind of like Boy ?

that's a very black orchid-y type thing , you think so , which was the first fragrance . So maybe he wanted a little truffle shavings on his extreme .

Yeah , this is like from Fragrantica you can click on the notes you get in there and it tells you a little bit more about it . And it's part of the Musk , amber and Animalic Smells group . Okay , odor profile Very special gourmand , warm and inviting fragrance .

So there was no ginger and no vanilla in this . Mm-mm . See , I'm a goddamn idiot I've been trying to tell you you , finally , it pierced through straight to my heart .

Yowch , I now believe you know , with a fragrance like this , I really do want to know the pros and cons that are listed . Some of the pros have been . Conjures up feelings of sophistication and elegance , which you just said . There's like this , decadent , whatever bullshit going on . Suitable for formal occasions .

Cons want to exude power and success . That's a pro they've listed . So every man who's ever walked the face of the earth .

Cons . Expensive price point . Agree May not be suitable for those who dislike busy or complex fragrances . I disagree with that . One Strong and intense initial scent . I don't think it's that strong . The whole thing's kind of I'm kind of disappointed .

I'm not I surprisingly really like it and maybe because I'm going all the way back to those early days when I was smelling that dossier clone of tom ford noir and it got me hooked on tom ford noir .

God , I just can't bring myself to like this fragrance . That's okay . I'm sorry guys , I'm sorry jonathan , I'm sorry , you are sorry , mr , please forgive me .

I'm sorry , I this up get it out of your system . You got a couple more in you . I love you anyway .

So okay ,

I would think if I was 15 years older , so if you're like 50 . Yeah , in my 50s and I've fallen in love with this fragrance , or the Tom Ford Noir , whatever , or this one . I mean , we saw it . You and I were at Sam's the other day , remember . I was like I fell in love with this shaved beef to make philly cheese steaks with .

I don't have a person in mind , dude . This has drawn a complete blank in me . There's something about me , ryan .

When you fall in love with something , it doesn't matter the cost or the obstacles in your way . Yeah , you're going to make sure If it's worth it , you're going to get that thing .

Well , let me tell you what we got on to this weekend . Saturday , me and your boy over here got to film some badass guns being shot , some pow-pows . Yeah , I bring this up because we had a really funny moment . You know , me and Mike are kind of like city slickers . Don't get confused with the voice here a little bit . You're damn right , we're pretty much .

But then he got an immediate text message that she said it's over , I'm not looking forward to a second date .

it . What are you gonna do , ryan ? Well , mike I hate to be and jonathan I hate to be the bearer bad news , but this is a certifiable absolute . Not even gonna lose an ounce of sleep . Skip for me .

That blows my freaking marbles .

I just am not vibing . There is nothing about this that I like and I'm shocked at how high the popularity is Shocked .

Man , I think this is a sample . I think this is a strong sample . Now , the price tag it kind of disqualifies it . You're past this point . But I think it's fun . You can get your hands on a little bit and try it . It's pretty wild . You can kind of tell where it influenced other fragrances down the road . Yeah , that's kind of a cool thing .

I absolutely love stuff like this . I have to agree with you on that and I mean I am pleased that we got to experience it . Good or bad , yeah , I am just so . It's a hard sample . I mean it's a sample to you .

Yes , for the experience , because we're lucky that we have listeners like you guys , because you , you're letting us go . Here's what you missed . Yeah , you know , because we got in on this thing 2021 , really , yeah , and you're like here's what you missed by not being in on fragrances in 2007 or whenever . Absolutely , and I just got to be grateful for that .

No , I am too it , I'm stoked well , you know , just sometimes you just don't click with something .

You know I'm saying just don't click with the fragrance that's okay it doesn't smell bad quality I'll say that no , to me it smells like some of the higher quality , like now , if you go into a store I feel like even the tom ford's you'd spray and you can kind of smell the quality kind of dropping I'd love to know , and we should have researched this .

We suck . I would have loved to known , uh , what uh tom ford's like . What's this remind me of ?

Well , there you go . Either way , very grateful for Jonathan to have sent this in , absolutely Thank you , and where else you want to go with that ? For Jonathan to have sent this in , absolutely Thank you . And , uh , anywhere else you want to go with that , guys ?

we love you so much . We just got . This is kind of like our getting back into it phase from uh , yeah , I know we did , you know trying for Bacchus , but that was still kind of fresh off of like eating like a couple of fucking dumb asses over Thanksgiving . Yeah , still kind of fresh off of like eating like a couple of fucking dumbasses over thanksgiving .

This is like week two . We've been on the speed bag for a little bit . We're trying to get our you know rhythm down , okay , yeah , so yeah , here's what's coming up too . We're about to talk with mo about this new kajal release of lamar noir .

Good things coming . We also have an episode planned with Licky .

That'll be a good one , that's right . Yeah , she actually called us today and was going off on some Soma fragrances that she bought the hype . She listened to us just , you know , juicing those sweet samples and she pulled the trigger and actually bought a couple bottles she bought .

Halcyon Oud , wasn't it ? No , just Halcyon , oh , just Halcyon . Okay , yeah , and I haven't smelled that one you have ? I don't think I have , I'm not sure . Anyway , she bought that , yes , and we've got this brand we've talked about before I'm going to post under the scope here .