Episode 27 - Julie (Juju) Christopher - Using your Intuition for Your Evolution

my life. And so I became very afraid and very nervous that I always had to have a corporate job to have healthcare and make sure that I could always have access to great doctors, if anything ever occurred. And so I really started to ask myself different questions. And I wanted to understand if I could create life differently. I wanted to start understanding if what the doctors told me maybe wasn't true, maybe there was

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Colleen Gallagher Podcast. I'm super, super excited for this episode. This is a dear friend and co star and just so many things in common and so many beautiful reflections that I get to see and this woman she has been through some of the most incredible things in this world and has come out the other side. One thing that I feel like when I was look at Juju or Julie, is people like to say that, you know pain is optional. I think that no matter what you're going to go through pain, but

suffering is optional. And I love Julie's story because she really has shown you that through pain, you can create a beautiful life something that's magnificent and guide people into a way that of living I guess that they never knew was possible. And so as you know, when I do these conversations, we just have a conversation, you're a fly on the wall, and we hope that you receive the frequency you need for the

expansion you're existing in. So Julie, feel free to introduce yourself, share a little bit of your story and we'll go from there. First of all, yeah, it was such a light and a delight. Really, I mean, I know you for so long.

And you know it's like I know you from before knowing you so it's like you know when I talk to you, things expand upon and words are meaningless when we talk that make any sense if anyone's watch is when is one even if anyone is watching this it's like you are what you are in the moment that is been given to you in the reality that's

unfolding as we speak. So the words that are being spoken in this conversation it's almost like irrelevant even though we even though you have to come completely comprehend it and put it into boxes because you know, our intellect demand that our mind wants to put things into boxes and shoe boxes and it's like like the television is telling a lie vision you know it's like lying to ourselves each time we're trying to connect with an intellect it's almost like impossible because

it's it's irrelevant, because the truth is not in in that box. And so when we have conversation that are plugged in to nothingness and oneness or legend same time It might not make any sense at first, but we look at giving transmission as we speak the truth of what it is. And it's a transmission that's been giving, not through books or not through repeating something that we heard. It's just like, it's spontaneous,

it's life itself. And so there's really not, I mean, as far as introduction, it's like, yes, we do, we all have a past, we all have an introduction, a title, and that we can carry around and, and a lot of us and especially in business, it's, it's, it's more of a burden, then then the treasure, you know, we carry around all these titles and names and faces and mirrors, and I call it smoking mirrors. No, that is not the

truth. So even if I say, Hey, I'm juju, I'm the founder of this, and then the other, it's a beautiful thing, because we have to material manifest things into this material reality. However, when we erase and cancel everything that we think we are, who we become, to realise who we are, which is really nothing at all, and everything in the same time. So I appreciate you, Colleen, because you're talking about the pain and the

suffering. And you as well have been into many shadows in your life, many questions, many. Growing up stages, I should say, we all have now growing up stages, as Oh, you're you're not mature, and you're mature now. But growing up growing up stages, as far as what we just discussed, eradicating belief systems, that this on the discovery of what you know, now to be yourself, and then going to peel that onion more and more and more, and then let that the I Am that I Am shine through,

which is who you are. And you can see that because I know I can it's, it's a beautiful thing, when you see someone who's discovering their true self, not their condition, not I am that pain, or I am the cancer or I am but discovering along the way, the manifests manifest the reality of supreme self that you are, and you can see it because your your face is a glow, you just know. And there's people like that in the world

that you pass through. And you just pause and say, huh not mistake, the light within me bow in honour the light within you. Because that's all there is that so there is of the of the truth. And so, I really appreciate you having me in this conversation because we cut through the mumbo jumbo, we don't have to go through the hoops of we did that I did that. It's like, you know, I tell men in business and I said it. It's who has the bigger you know, that kind of you can say it on here.

Who has the bigger deck? So spiritual? Well, that's like who has the bigger Genesee quad? Who has the bigger third eye? It's all these bullshit and it's like, okay, well, none of that guys. None of this matter. So, um, anyway, I do appreciate you. Number one, being my friend. And when people ask me Oh, who are you or what you do? I said, Well, none of this really matters. It's like I'm your I

want to be your friend. I want to be a friend I want to be in the friend in in where I can be a presence of support or compassion or whatever that is, you know in the moment is so But but we are friends. And that's the best part. One thing that I do things I love that you shared and I want to circle back on this for

people listening. One thing Julie mentioned on and for those you listening, you're probably just in this space or you are starting to play with this space is understanding the identities that you're carrying around you. And I feel like when I was in corporate, for example, I was I had two parents who were lawyers, I was bred to go into college and then do a corporate job. And I'm the first one in my lineage to really transition out

of the matrix. And it's it's very interesting, I guess, to for those of you listening, when you think about the conversations, you're having one thing Julie and I know both extremely shy away from I shouldn't say dislike, but we really cut past it is it's not so much going up to someone and asking, what do you do? It's asking someone, what are you passionate about? Like, what is it that gets your heart excited?

What is it that you love? What is it that makes you laugh, and that's something I love that Julie and I have, it's very similar. And if you're listening to this, that's a transition that I'd recommend having your thoughts go more into that space. And really listening to what we're saying, even though it's probably a little bit challenging to be present with understanding that it is entering into your field in a way that you may not even understand. So your your life is

going to be happening now. And you're going to be like, Oh, I heard this thing or that thing happened. Oh, I see that now I get it. And you can't really rush through that process. It's something that is gradual. But it's very much like finance in a way if I had to, if I had to quantify it, but you you you compound in certain ways of your actions without really realising

your actions. And before you know what you arrive somewhere, but you never really arrive at a destination you just arrive at a different end of the journey

that you're on. And so I feel like from what you do saying and what Julie's talking about, this is a really important piece for you to start to allow yourself to receive and be open to because it's only when you start to be open or become more aware an observer of your self at any part of you, you will allow yourself to see these new realities coming to you. Beautiful. I was just like wrapped up into this beautiful silk feel like what you're

saying. It is true what you said about it is hard to wrap your mind around that is because there is no such thing as a mind the mind is an illusion of the mind, mind itself is an illusion of itself. So when we go through that door of the ordinary mind we couldn't even tell you what it feels like it looks like because there's nothing at all. So to when when we when we when we look at spirituality and the higher path there is no one or no books or anyone all that could frame it into a reference

or concept. Because if they do it's very academic is very linear and you my friend have to run the other way because you are still in the rabbit hole and you're not going to exit that way. The thing of it is like until right clean until we really we have a burning desire

to to declare our own light. We have the burning desire to find out who we are, what am I and till then we're going to hit the wall and we're going to chase after our town and we're going to always try to find an answer and to seek something else from someone else something outside of yourself, which we know and glean and are telling you there is nothing that you seek that you're going to find outside of yourself. Nothing your mind.

Find it in, in have those instances of, you know what we call of Samadhi You know, sex to somebody or excess you all these things, those are inflamed reality are caused by your five senses, which you are suffering from the condition of what you think you are. So when you uncover and peeling those sensors away, something else will occur. Thus, we you to realise yourself, and no one can

say, buy my shit. And I'm gonna give you the pill to get you to that enlightenment or by my desk, and I'm going to give you the six months programme to do this. It's absolutely an illusion and a delusion of the mind, in a in a suffering, because you are not going to exit you must just be still in the now. That's all there is. That's the appeal. That's the programme, that's all there is

to do. And the fact is, that if you, for instance, have an application like meditation, and you're meditating and you know that you're meditating, then you're not meditating at all, the day that you said, and you transcend the mind, and you don't even realise you're meditating, then you're opening

a door. But if you are, keep going around in doing the things and really thinking into putting something that is not like, you're just playing a roll, you know, what I'm saying, you just, you just, you're doing things to tolerate your suffering, you're doing things in a material way to, to, to appease yourself to to, you know, to tolerate that you exist, but you don't have to do any of that you don't need to.

Yeah, when a couple of things that I want to go into here, or divert into so one, I love what you shared about the suffering, and tolerating suffering. And let's go into that because I feel like there's a lot of times people aren't even aware they're suffering, they may think it's a great life, because they're making X amount of money, or they have this family or they have this relationship or, you know, they got married, whatever all the ticks that you have, or

society has. And as you and I know, that actually can cause a lot more suffering because you are choosing an outlet, or you're choosing a list to check off thinking that by checking that off on your list, you're gonna you're going to find enlightenment, or you're going to find joy, are you going to obtain peace, um, when that's

just not it. And I can actually go into a story story with minor short story, but with my PhD that I'm starting, it's funny, I think a lot of people look and they go How is calling this this person, also the academia person, and it's, it's a very interesting mind battle that I've had to go through as well. And one thing I feel will start with suffering and go back but we each have a unique mission that we were born to fulfil on this planet at this specific

time. If you just look into the cosmics if you look into anything about the stars aligning, if you just actually look into scientifically what is happening in the universe, there's a very deep science to this of why you're here why you're initiated at this time and and what you have the potential to fulfil. And for me, one of those things is I have very clear directions and signs that that is something that I get to do on my admission on my journey to enlightenment into

deepness. However, if I wouldn't have gone through, as Julie said, some of these initiations I had to go through actually, before I went to my PhD, I wouldn't actually be enjoying the journey of it, it wouldn't actually be something that's on my enlightenment path. And so I want to have some dialogue with you on that. I know I could go on for a little bit but I'd love for you to do some good I think maybe, maybe you could share the I know it's gonna be switching the interviewer is

switching. Supposed to be awesome. So let's tackle this a little bit. You win through the processes, the linear learning and then just end it understand if you're listening to this, there's nothing wrong with learning things. I'm not we're not saying we're not saying that we we correct it by this. Okay. So you went through the process of discovery, you challenge your mind your challenge your intellect, all of this is necessary. Have you not gone through this phases? We will not

have that conversation today. I understand. So I understand the reason why she's saying this, the story that she's saying is that you are exactly where you should push to be period. Don't try to control life, because you won't be able to try, it's not your job. There is no frustration that is being put into this play of consciousness that you're part of. We're going back to that. But I'm going back to Colleen we want to know as your audience. If you can recall, spontaneously. What

would be that one? Defining thing moment, you know, experience that made you to, to think differently to open that door. You know, for me, because it takes some It takes courage to do it. This is one of one out of a million people first time on the path will be able to do this, because it takes a lot of courage to open that door. So what was that? What What was that point? That you decided to jump off the cliff, if you will? And then what came through it? What did you discover?

So the biggest moment that you're talking about, or my initiation, I'd say is when I left my corporate job, I was making six figures, I had a company car, I had health care for those even though I had cancer. So if you I left this job, I had pre existing conditions, so I knew that you may not be able to get health care because America at that time didn't have that as part of it. And so I'm going across the world to New Zealand's didn't know a single soul. I'm like nothing. And I have my two

suitcases. I used to have like 500 shoes. I mean, I had like a ridiculous closet. And I just gave it all away to Red Cross. And so I remember that flight still, to this day, I'm sitting there like hyperventilating, crying, thinking, like a full anxiety attack thinking like, am I about to throw my life away like is throwing my life away. And I arrived in New Zealand, I had an Airbnb, and I like booked the recruiting firm, to my to get a job. And I got a job with a $400 million company in like a

month. But I remember like, even those three weeks, I was like, so stressed like what's gonna happen in such a failure, like, it's almost like I didn't even enjoy the whole initiation I just went through. I was like, so worried and still, like, I have to do this, I have to

succeed. And so I think I know for a lot of my audience, you kind of you guys are in that place, if teeter tottering or you're, you had a really big health issue, and you haven't realised you don't need to just use Western medicine to heal yourself to get away from the medical system. And so I guess that was my real first time. But I think you have a very powerful time as well. I think you should share yours as well for people to know what was your moment.

So but so and then so then what did you discover them when you went through that? So that's, that's the key. That's one of the key for someone who's going through that part in their life, what you went through, that's the key that they need to hear. Not the book stuff, crap, the key of your direct knowledge, which is the pure wisdom that came through that, that is the key for other people to grasp.

The key of it, as I know, when I went there, I really had to find myself and I feel like when I remember when I sat there and I was like I'm committing to doing four hours of yoga meditation a day like I'm not going to drink I'm not going to just go out meet random people. And I really committed like the key I guess if what you're asking for is like I was so committed, I was 23. I was like, I've got to figure out why I'm here. Like,

why did I get cancer? Like these questions were like, very present and almost like, they were echoing in my body. Like, why did I get cancer? Why did my friends die? And I made it. Why are some people suffering? Why are there third world countries? Why are some people working in manufacturing? Why did some people stop dreaming? I had so many questions that I, I, I needed to find the answers, so I had to, like it was it was like, there was just so much. That's all I can remember.

Oh, that was amazing. Yeah, I want to hear your thoughts here. I think everyone. Julie's one of the same I mean, that's why I don't even what you say, why, why not? How should I do the next step? You hear this? You hear this is very critical. If you're listening to this, if you in in this the quicksand right now. Don't ask how, how should I get out of the quicksand? Why am I here? Why am

I in a quicksand? That is the question that you need to ask yourself, if you are going through a process of of trying to realise yourself your purpose, your mission, your vision, your passion? It's not that how that's going to get you there. It's the why in what am I this will take you farther than any courses, any books, any gods and goddesses. This is very important. This is the key that she gave you of self realisation that needs to start. If you're listening to this, it's not a

coincidence. You need to start with that now. Don't wait to start now. Just sit down and ask that that question and let it reveal itself because she said what she said what this questions were hunting her does question. I'm going to give you a little give, which is those questions were actually her highest self seeking her like, like Colleen, do you hear the ringing bell? Do you read? Do

you hear me? Do you hear the ringing bell or hear Do you hear us that was her highest self seeking her G understand how important that this is? This is the this is more important than all the study that she's been through as she studied. This is more important than any certification on the wall any trophy in the background, any bells and whistles. Thank you schooling for sharing this because that was the key. Thank you. Well, thank you for bearing

with me. Amazing, that's, there's nothing gets me going. That's what gets me going. There's something else I want to share though. This is I haven't shared this publicly before. I wasn't going to actually but here we are, um, about, I don't know, maybe we could go. Um, I shared this with a friend of mine. But I I was just staying home. It was a Saturday night. And I was like, Okay, I'm gonna just go on a little journey and like, do my breath work and lay

in my bed. And for those of you listening, there's just again, it was some questions I had and answers I couldn't, I couldn't find. And so I go on this journey. totally sober. There's nothing no medicine, plant medicine, whatever you want to call it, or no, no drinking, like this was totally sober in my bed laying there by myself. And I go into these other realms. And there was a moment it was so beautiful. There's this white light that appeared

over me. And it started to almost did try to touch my heart to like integrate in my body. And but the thing was, is this this white light, and I'm sure some of you listening may have had an experience of something similar, but it got so close to my heart. And it felt like a jolt of energy, like electricity was like jolting to me. It was so hot. It was just so hot and couldn't integrate in my body. And so it would like back away.

And it would almost feel like when it backed away like you were really close to fire like the part of a fire that feels like so good. You're not too close to it, but it's like I feel so good. And so this happened two more times three times in total and it could never integrate in my body. And I was like, Oh my gosh, that's so beautiful. Like, I know there's an expansion. I loathe evolution coming. I know there's there's something really

beautiful like that. I'm moving through and i i Julie and I were talking about It might be hard again for you to ground it into your mind. But why I'm sharing this story with you is because wherever you are in your life, even if you're in a linear situation of I wake up every day, go to my nine to five job or I'm a business owner. And I have this many team members, this many funnels, this many, whatever, like, you're kind of in the monotonous, monotonous of

it. And you will go through an expansion by listening to this and the story I just shared about my own life that is available for you as you continue to expand who you are, and yourself and your Higher Self, your soul, your supreme self, like all of those different revelations that can occur through you. But you can't try to do it like a mathematical equation.

Beautiful, beautiful. Wow. I just love you, just and we all do annoy do beautiful, the the the going beyond the experiences that would occur will also happen to spontaneously. Give us an example of you. I just I just wanted to say this, because the the what's

happening? Yes, yes, yes. What's happening right now and I know we have, do we have a little bit more time in the world right now you have this duality, you have this duality that is being shone all around you, in a media everywhere in politics or

economy. on the global scale, you have this duality that is sparking up the COVID for instance, it's another duality why we're having the discussion that we're having in this moment in time is for you to to grasp that, what is being shown to you, outside of yourself, when you look at the reality of the world. You can't do it through exercise. This, what she speak about the Self Realisation will occur. When nothing will really happen at all, like it's comes naturally. So lets me say that.

Meditation is the device that will get you there. Now this is out of the way meditation without having to learn it. Take all, all that away. Take all the teachings away. This is very important when I'm saying once you go through that work, and you are inspired, to do the work of the meditation is seeking yourself you're I Am that I Am. You will ultimately wake up to realise that what you see with your eyes is a deletion of the

mind. It does not exist. The world outside of yourself is just like a movie that projects on the screen of consciousness is a movie. It's like a dream. And you're playing in this play of consciousness not knowing who you are. Once you wake up to see who you are without the condition of the five senses the body and identifying something else then just life and death. That's also division of the mind does not exist. You will come to see that all of that is just a play of consciousness and a

projection on the screen. The world that you see, you see it because it's In your mind when you die or your body leaves in you're not conscious the world disappear isn't it does not happen yeah, when you come back in consciousness into the womb and come back here you start seeing with the five senses because you're conditioned to to adapt to this condition so what what happens is that what happened to me for instance was spontaneous it was not like a big light show or a big cooker

not coming down on my head and then I woke up out of it nothing like this happens enlightenment does not happen because something happens we couldn't even touch the word enlightenment because if we say we are enlightened, we're certainly not in this is because if you want to you have to disconnect to all the things that you think that I am enlightened I am not I am this I am that this duality is the suffering that when we are talking to each other right now there is no two of us is only

one of us. That's real. And the I am in every languages there is every culture there is the I write Colleen, it's every language is is what I am sad, I am happy I am this I am that. To find out that what what's in common between all human is this one eye. This one eye there is no two eyes, there is one eye.

So when you wake up out of it, and you start to peel and peel away, you will no longer identify with the world outside of yourself because you will transcend to the eye, which is the light that she was speaking about the light consciousness the love of consciousness and divine consciousness that we are one the world outside of yourself is the project it's an

illusion, guys. It's so yeah, no, I, I really love what you shared there about the one eye and for some of this audience, some of them may know what you're saying. But let's go into it a little bit deeper. Um, there's the letter i that she's talking about, of one eye between all languages and there's also another eye that that actually can mean inner connectedly um, and so I would love for you to go a little bit deeper on that journey for everyone. The I am sad, the I am happy the

I Am. believe something is a shadow. That only is also a reflection. The I Am that I Am the eye the journey of the eye the eye that was an born is still unborn. Now the either represents the Supreme Self of what you are before becoming a condition. Before believing in anything you were this i This supreme self this unconditional the Sat Chit Ananda the love consciousness the bliss which you are the I am sad story that I have I am sick and I am my sickness is the suffering.

That's the suffering is because you are not the body. You are not dying. You are not leaving.

You are not the home. You leaving in you are not the home you're not you're in The Custom you're not the custom, the I am Sir the I am sick the is that in the other day I am black, the I Am green, the I am white, it's the custom, you are not the custom and kill that sink in you will not be able to wake up that has to sink in first to realise that you are not the whom you leaving in that you are that which cannot be contained nor defined by anything, any concept any construct any intellect, any

mind, you are that which is unlimited divine intial This is the either need to be revealed through your path. In everything that is experienced through you, you are not the experience you are the experience or you are not the knowing you are the know. And every experiences that's bouncing into your life is the direct knowledge that you need necessary to wake up. So it is done. For you, not to you. Yes, this is why she's sharing her story that it needs to be

embraced. You need to embrace every single experience that is occurring, because this is the direct experience teachings that you need. And once you get this, you won't even be able to read another book, because everything after that will be irrelevant in the loss of your time. So no, I love that you, there's so many things I love that you

shared in there. And one thing that I've added even for people listening to this is are just in my life, but when we say things happen to us, then we allow them to happen for us, we allow them to happen with us and the last stages we allow them to happen as us and when you really understand that what Julie's talking about of the things that are happening perceivably to you, when you actually allow yourself to integrate them everything is happening as you are as a direct reflection as

the projector that Julie was sharing about as the awareness that you have, where you're at, and you can always expand it yet right now it's where you're meant to be and there'll be opportunities no matter where you are, right when you're meant to have the moments for your life changes where you open up where you wake up. And so I just love so many things of what Julie said there and I still want to go back into tell us about the moment for you of when you realise how was that for

you? And so of course you know my story Colleen, but for the sake of of giving some direct wisdom very similarly I left my country it was I was 20 years old. And I heard I was living in Paris i My My background is professional touring musician in singer so I tour and I play music and that's my background and many more but just for the sake of time I was in Paris in that and I I heard this voice saying leave now and this is where you're going. Now mind you this for the sake of

time. I grew up with an old with autism in an autism that got me to to be very challenged in a couldn't go to school and it's called synesthesia and synesthesia is is is dyslexia in stem on steroid minds you by the age of three. I had experienced things or not from the material world So, I grew up thinking it was normal to communicate with the dad, you know. And all these kind of things I had bad out of body experience by the age of

five. I told my mom her past life and yeah, so I had crazy growing up all this to say that I was already used to listening to this inner voice. It's something that I had no choice. But doing because I had no other guidances. So when I, when I hear this voice, you got to go, now? I listen. I don't come and say, Oh, let me think about it. Let me you know, let me think about it. Or it's a voice that you can that you cannot deny. It

is so strong. In Korean you can you can, you can testify to this, it is such a strong voice that you cannot deny, it will be crazy to do such a thing, because it's so strong, you can no longer deny it. So, Allison, like Colleen did, I didn't have many shoes, but I have things I had stuff. And I left everything I give it to my neighbour, I took my guitar, I which is right here, this is my baby, you know, and then my grandma, give me a little luggage. And I tour with

it now. And I show the story, you know, this little luggage. And I had a pair of jeans in a shirt. And they loved from Europe, from France, to land in LA was no speaking English was $50 in my pocket, and the you know, anybody, and I was illegal. So I want you to rub that around yourself. And still didn't say, Well, I don't have that I don't have that I don't have that I can't, I can't, I can't, the voice was so strong, that I could not longer denied.

I get into the airport. And what I walked out and I look left, I look right. And I said now what would I go right? Or do I go left? That's when he hit me that listening to my inner voice, my intuition was the most important skill that I could really master because if I didn't have this, well, I wouldn't be here today.

So listening to this voice was the pivot moment to everything that I wrapped around in my life, business relationship, everything in between, is really built in the foundation of this inner voice. Then, obviously, years and years and years of practising this and realising that this is important, and I need to teach it to other people. So which is what I do. Now you ask a questions about it was a place in time when I was about 15 that something really traumatic happened to my mike

psyche in my body. And I'm not going to go into the details of it. But it was very, very, very, was a very bad place of suffering for me. And through my adolescence and even childhood, I wanted to take my life I tried many times I have marks on my arms. And they always kicking me back here can never do it. Because I had to realise when I was younger, that I was not this body, and I wanted to go home. I had this calling about I want to go home What am I doing here

this I made the wrong stop. And I wanted to go home and I was very depressed because I wanted to go home I looked at the stars all the time. I meditate by the age of 10 I was already meditating. And I knew that it was this place that I belong to but he was not here. I just wanted to go home. So for a long time, I you know, I realised that this is not who we are, you know? And when I exit it when I went through the Self Realisation it was something that was very spontaneous. It

was not in meditation. It was not doing practice. It wasn't Not something in particular is just occur when the thing that I occur was, I AM, everywhere I am everyone in. It's very strange because I can't even explain it. In when I release the fear of dying that I realised death was another delusion. That's the thing I think that most people are hooked on is that they really believe that death exists, and it doesn't. Yeah, I, there's so many beautiful things, I love that

you shared your story. The one though I feel when most people will be listening to this and this audience at this point in time, is death. I think a lot of them fear of death. But I don't think they realise that by living kind of in a matrix situation, or maybe a creative but you're halfway into the creativity, you're not like fully devoted to it or fully, like I'm trusting the process or the journey of it. They don't realise that yes, time is infinite, yet also, time can be

taken in the same moment. So let's, I can go into more as well. But let's hear some dialogue from you on it, because I feel it'd be really pure for everyone to hear. So Colleen, you might completely disagree with me. And that's okay. Time is a construct. As long as we try to wrap our mind around time. We're still involved with the personality that we think we are, we love a personality so much that we make it into blocks of times. Time is

not real time is a concept. Of course, in our worldly activity, we have to do the things you know Monday through Sunday days. But sun, the sun comes every day. Why would it be not Sunday, every day, the sun day it comes every day, the sun comes every day, spontaneously, it doesn't not need any practice to come

up, agents comes up, right. So as you you come up and every second of the day you born in unborn every day that data one atom in a quantum where atoms in reality when Adam indigiscapes Keep coming, it just keep coming. Again when you go through what Colin was to say, sharing about her experiences in you, you have this this is not real time is not real. Time is

space. In we are space. That's what we are we are space, were a part of the space and we're expanding upon, in there is the space in then when you go in beyond the space, then you witness there's not even a space. So that's a different conversation. But let's take it there that if you hooked to this concept that your parents, your teachers, your grandparents, your ancestors have been toward you for so long. You are Juju you are calling you are Robert.

Yeah, you're born, you're born in this time and you're going to be dying and there's a 99999 you get to exit this nonsense and set you free to unlock your potential which you are here to do. So you surrender to all of it. You don't fight it. You surrender more and more and more. You surrender. You don't need to resist in this duality. You surrender more and more and more. You're not a man. You're not a woman. You don't have a

choice. Ender does not exist, you're not the home you're living in, you're not the custom, you're not this face, you're not this mask, once you remove all this concept, you will be so happy. I'm talking about the true kind of happiness, not, I'm gonna do something to be happy. But you're gonna wake up. Okay? It's just boom, it's just, ah, you know, it's, it's music isn't chanting, it doesn't need anything to survive on to grip on to grasp on to teach on to this and do this, it doesn't

need anything at all. That's the beauty of this conversation is that you can rest into knowing that you're the knower of all that is in it, you already have all the answers. That's the beauty of this bliss. I love every word that you just said, I feel like I'm soaking it. And I'm sure a lot of people are as well. And what Julie said it as well. And I love that she's pointed this out. It took me a long time. And I'm still probably unravelling to understand that there's no time

and space. So for I know a lot of you listening who are just starting this path, you're like, no time, what are these two talking about? Like, you probably think that we're not like we you don't maybe fully integrate it. And that's why I love what Julie went into it so deeply. Because, you know, I was not conditioned that way for 20

years of my life. And it wasn't really until the past three years that I started even being open to that conversation and diving deeper into the sensations of knowing of feeling of actually trusting that what I'm seeing and what I'm hearing is real because very similar to Julie, I was a little girl three years old. And I was seeing all other rounds and people and communications with other beans and a bunch of things they could be called depending on who

you're talking to. But I was always told not to talk about it, I was never really safe to talk about it because it wasn't like a safe expression, which is very much but manifested my cancer to be on my throat which had my throat cut twice. And why it's so important with listening to what Julie said and really tuning into that frequency is you really can create or allow creations or can create whatever format you want to play it in.

But so much to occur in an instant and an instant may be quote unquote, defined by 30 days, it could be defined by a year, but none of it is actually real. And back to what even Julie said of the projector and the eye when you really start to go into these practices, these awarenesses the surrendering the allowance, all of these words that we're saying to go to your mind? Oh, yeah, it's just the

beingness of you. And from that beingness the journey Julie and I are sharing with you naturally occurs not as part of a plan but as something that not something that was part of your plan. But as something that was part of some for a greater shift in the ecosystem of quantum physics, which really is sharing of the atoms and understanding how we even mix in with the solar system and within the cosmic

universe. These are all things that when you look at that, it makes sense a little bit to the mind, but it still never can linearly make sense for your mind to grasp it and so, so beautiful for what you shared. Julian, I know a lot of people in the audience are going to really receive a lot from it. So I'm just super grateful though. I know we had about an hour we went over everyone but I'm super grateful for your time Julian Julian, I could keep going for

hours on this. So but is there anything else you want to share? Tell people where to reach out to you and I'll also leave all of your information in the show notes. Well, I mean, you can always reach out, I mean, if you're going to have my name on the, on the podcast, or we're not just, you know, just pasting My name into Facebook or something, I'm always, you know, I'm very, very open, and I'm an open house, you know, and it's like, what's cool about me is like, I really don't

have anything to sell. Because I'm, I really don't want to have anything to sell you on. Because this is what makes me happy, is when someone can realise themselves. And they realise that they don't need really anyone to, to, they need guidance, but they don't need, you know, like, you know, how everyone is like, Oh, do you follow that person? I have people asking me, what do you do? Do you follow this guru and, and I listen to this, and I'm like, this is also part of the

suffering. Like, I don't follow anyone, because I'm the creator, and you are the creator. So it's like, we all were creators. And so why would I follow anyone, I don't need to know that I'm have any interest in following anyone. And I tell people don't, you don't have to follow Me neither. Like, I just want you to be able to tap into your own power of authority to be able to shift into a higher rung of consciousness and move into the heart space that is very, very,

very, very, very important. She shared about the heart, moving to the heart space, a dive and dive into the seat of the soul, there is a space there, you just sit there, you just sit there and allow those who are coming to your path to guide you that you know that it is out of love and admire respect. And I'm always happy to have more conversations with anyone who have the desire to know the truth in that that's what I meant. So of course, you can find me on Facebook, that's

easy. And then after that, you can find me anywhere that you need to. So it's not a pushy kind of thing. It's I'm welcoming anyone who's on the path, trying to really understand without understanding, but pointing them into their own direct knowledge that you do have. Yeah, and what I want to say what Julie, she's not gonna say about herself, but she has an incredible company called this tuition. And it really is a lot

of what we are sharing. And she has a few books that she's and she's writing or she's written. And there's another one that I believe is still coming out very soon. But Julia is someone if you listen to this, and you were like, holy boy, I need to like really do something. Reach out to Julie, I'm telling you, I've seen this woman take people who had no idea they were in the mind construct or they were even functioning in a way that was harmful to themselves and transform them within 30

seconds. I mean, the woman is absolutely incredible. So when you listen to this, and you're like, I feel like I'm curious or even you just have that push or you have a voice in your head that saying, I think I need that. Take the damn action and reach out to Julie. I mean, she is just gifted in so many ways. And what she does with each

person is pure presence. There's no cookie cutter formula she has it is literally pure presence of who it is you are feeling your energy and she is really connecting you both in a way that you never knew was possible for someone to connect with you in such a short amount of time. So reach out to her definitely have a conversation with her. She will do so many things for your life that you didn't even

realise was possible. So, Julie, I'm just so grateful for you. I love seeing you as a reflection. It's such an honour. Such an honour Colleen in you, you and I are very connected. And the brother we see each other or not. I know you know, and it's amazing. Because Wow. It's beyond magic. Colleen there is not about me. This is about you. No, I just I just want to share because if you run Coleen Sherry's her love her she only has good intention. She only wants you to succeed. She's

pure. You need to respect her. For the things that she guides you on. You need to trust her. You need to get out of the ego. You see if you didn't see her for what she is. Yes, she's easy in the eye, for sure. But you need to see beyond the costume. You need to see me on the age. And you need to tap into her wisdom. And you have to have a tremendous amount of respect and shared the love that you have also for her. That's all I wanted to end was. Thank you so much. I'm so

grateful you have no idea. And yes, Julie and I are very, very connected for all of you listening but I'm just so grateful for this. And for all of you listening I just want you to know that relationships like this are available for you. And I just love Julie so much. So reach out to her and we'll have everything in the show notes for you to get her and then also on all of my social media. We'll have her tagged as well. So thank you so much and we love

you guys for tuning in. Much love lots of love.