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Snaps - Will Urban Meyer return? Will Auburn fire Bryan Harsin? USC & Oregon bringing Pac-12 back?

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T-Bob Hebert and Aaron Murray discuss Urban Meyer's potential return to college football, Bryan Harsin's job status at Auburn, and whether teams like USC, Utah, Oregon, and Washington have brought the Pac-12 back to relevance. #Volume #ColinCowherd #herd

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going on? Everyone? Up? What up? Welcome in to a midday Monday madness that tried its time for snaps presented by Fan Duel. Shout out to the volume against network for having us on here on the Youtube Channel. Subscribe. Hit the like button. Huge. Shout up Fan dolver bringing us on. Remember Promo Code snaps if you're signing up for a new account. And shout out to Papa Cola, without whom none of this would be possible. And I'm very excited on this Monday because we got a few

big storylines to break down. The coaching Carousel is here. will discuss maybe what it means for Nebraska. Should they go after urban? Aaron's got some very pointed thoughts in this matter. A bit later on we'll continue to talk coaching. Is this guy's not out the door, but something he might be little fine bomb on Harson as I mean, if you're an Auburn Fan, dude, how are you feeling about Brian Harrison? A farm but I'm saying he thinks it just feels like it's over. Outside of the drama,

we'll get into some of the Games. Shout out to the back twelve, dude, the west striking back man, not just you USC any fun. We get the best weekend the bag twelve has had in a very long time and, as always, we'll give you our snips and our snaps. Get it's like a classic good bad TV segment thing. So if you're in the chat, first off, welcome. Secondly, you can put your own snips and snaps from over the weekend and we could address the best ones. Eron Murk qb one. What's up, Dude, man, I'm in and

Daytona Beach. I gotta talk tonight to a actually back to back Monday. So for those that are like what the hell, whereas that beautiful Georgia helmet behind Aaron that we're used to seeing on the show. The next two Mondays I will be on the road. I'm in Sunny Florida, Daytona beach. You gotta speaking at a touchdown club tonight. Next Monday I'll be in Savannah speaking at another touchdown club. So your boys stays on the road. I got home.

I got home yesterday morning from Tennessee, from Knoxville for the weekend. That's spent a little bit of time with the family and then I'm like baby, just reminding you that I'm being once again on Monday for the day to go speak. I'll see you on Tuesday. So thank God she is an angel. Are you wait, are you in the Doghouse? Not, not, and I know that might be a thing at Georgia, but are you in the Doghouse at all right now? No, because yesterday, I mean

I was dog tired. So you and I, you know, we do our late night show on Saturday, so I went to bed, you know, one thirty two. You know, I always make sure I take like the first flight home on Sunday. So I was on the flight at seven thirty ish. I was up like at six UH, get home. I'm dead tired, but I'm like, gimme Maddox. Madi is not gonna go spend the boys boys day together. So I took I took a little man from like

eight thirty, nine o'clock till about essentially four. So I gave her the afternoon to come like chill, you know, it's good for me a little man to hang out together, and then we spent a fun night together at the dog park. So I'm not in the DOGHOUSE. But once again, I still can give my my wife, who's thirty weeks pregnant's a big shout out for for being a Badass.

I'm got on the weekends during the fall, I'm gonna go ahead and put our producer Ryan Brumley and the snaps snaps, snaps for sharing snaps for Sharon, and Brom put his Aaron in the Doghouse as a poll in the chat. Great poll question, but Brom, you didn't spell it d a w G. I mean, I know it's Monday, but I need you to lock in. Okay, dog D O g. What is this dude? Anyway? And then we

get confused with the good bad doghouse thing. I think the bad doghouse is exclusively O G and good doghouse is a w g. So I did think of that. And who's WHO's having Monday problems? Now, you're right, that is a classic. You just you're you know, reversed me, like I'm not even get off the Mat. I'm just gonna take that L I'll move on. Well played. Let's say I go ahead and dive into the first topic. Now.

I got another left on that. Uh. So, if you've Lin listen to this show, you know that I've somehow kind of memed my way into being a Nebraska fan here. What I have learned Eron since Scott Frost was fired is that I was never there for frost. I'm there for the irrational passion of husker fans. There was no reason why Fox's big kick off this Saturday in Lincoln. There was no reason why anybody should have been there, and yet the set was packed. People were going crazy.

I follow all kind of Nebraska fans on twitter. They slowly through the week worked themselves into convincing their themselves are gonna win. Every single weekend the stadium is packed and they're awful, but that's sort of dedicated because like I would tell us you. On Saturday state it was kind of weak, to be honest, dude, the openers, Brian Kelly,

it was pretty empty, like relatively Nebraska. Not The case. Okay, so I'm still here with you, husker nation, and so we have to figure out where are we gonna go for our next head coach and on that broadcast on Saturday on Fox, crowd made a very clear as we want. Urban chants started to break out urban. I know how you feel about this. Urban Urban. Okay, urban meyern in Nebraska. What do you think? And do like? I guess that actual fate. Could that actually work? Yeah, I think it

can work. I mean he's won three national championships in his career. Uh, he won one in fourteen and you know before the show, you know, tea BOPs like, oh, it's been almost a decade. Well, who else has won in National Championships in fourteen? What like three other coaches in America? So it's not like there's a budget coaches rotating through winning the National Championship. So he is an elite category. Two at Florida, one at Ohio State. Um, you know, there are teams gonna be and then I

think he's a really good head coach. I do think that he is a top head coach in America if he decided to come back. Is he a top five? I don't know. Is he a top tend I would think so. Like if urban came back today and took them to Braska job, I would throw her it into a top ten category for college coaches and for Nebraska fans to get a top ten coach for what Nebraska has been for the past decade. You're you're jumping up and down, you're you're excited, your static, like hell yeah,

give us urban. We don't give a damn about everything that that went on in his past, whether it's at Florida, whether it's that Ohio state and obviously what went down there at Jacksonville. Like we don't care. Kick our kickers, just win football games, win championships. That's all we want right now from a head coach. We are tired of being irrelevant. We have too much of a rich history

not to be good. So yes, if there's a coach that I'm gonna target and I'm in Nebraska and I just want to win, and winning, as we know, solves all problems, I'm going to go after coach Urban Meyer, regardless of how much it's gonna cost me. We're going after Urban Meyer. So I think it's legitimate, man, I think it's real and I think he's on the shortlist right now to be the next head coach at Nebraska.

And as an outsider, or even as someone who would be Nebraska Fan, I am plenty okay with it because I want to Brask gonna be good. I'm here for you, T bob, I'm here for you. I Want Nebraska to be good as well, but I don't know that there is any guarantee that the man to do that job is urban Meyer. Now, no, real quick let's focus on the nearly a decade thing, right because, to be fair, it's a fantastic uh debate turn of phrase right where

it's like seven years and up. Just make it sound like ten, okay, because it feels like it's been two decades since Urban Meyer had success on the college level. You look at and and then and and it's not just that, like when he stepped away Um and went and tried the NFL thing, it's not just that it didn't work right, like like Saban didn't work in the NFL. Urban Meyer was a car crash. It was a rocket explosion before it even got to, you know, out of

the atmosphere. It was destructive and beautiful and horrible to watch all same time. I mean like, okay, so you said you would pay anything, amory, you're gonna pay this man a hundred plus million dollars. It's gonna be the coach of school and you're gonna eat the PR blowback from uh, well, the Zax Smith something got enforced out of Ohio state at the beginning of the day. But, but, but, like, even outside of pr I mean, this is a man who in Jacksonville, the things that he were he was

doing don't really work on the college or NFL level. Like, if he displays that same lack of accountability, if he displays the same lack of interest, I mean, to me, the craziest, the the absolute wildest, like whatever, the thing where he's like party on the boat with his boys and his boys like hitting a ball in the background, but it's like in the reflection whatever, and you see him kind of doing one of these okay, okay, whatever,

pretty stupid, but that happens. But to be the head coach of an NFL football franchise and to stay behind after you get your ass kicked and then to be in public drinking like that, grinding on girls and again, all things that I'm complete fine with. I love grinding, drink, I love all of this. I love all of this, but in that position it shows a like shocking, a

mind lemon mind numbingly dumb lack of situational awareness. And so I don't know if he's like the San Franciscans in that one salad park episode where they're just loving the smell of their own farts. But somewhere along the way urban Meyer lost his way. He got obsessed with his own sin. Okay, I would not hire this man to be my head coach and I definitely would not pay him a hundred million dollars. Because what if it doesn't work? Worst case scenario, Brian Kelly doesn't work at

L S you. Is it a huge miss? Absolutely, okay, but you're not. It's not viewed as kind of selling your yourself out morally, like if you put all that money in here and then it doesn't work, it's a complete it's it's it's it's even work. You're you're at you're at a cross rods front, like there is a level of desperation, and I said it at the beginning of the season, like, if you're going to be a team that wants to look at urban, you have to kind of look yourself in the mirror and say how

desperate are we to win? Because of the possible PR nightmare, because of the fact that if it doesn't have success, people arena come at you saying, well, look, look at all the facts. How did you think this was gonna work? Look what he did Jacksonville. Look at all the nightmare. So why would you bring a guy that has had some issues in the past couple of years into our

locker room? So, yeah, you have to worry about that PR nightmare, but then you also have, I think in Nebraska right now there's also a you gotta take a chance. It's this is a high risk, high reward situation right now. Do you want to go for a guy that is won more national championships than anyone else besides Nick Saban the past fifteen years, or uh and a guy that that has won at Florida, Guy That's one of Ohio

state that is considered possibly a top ten coach in America? UH, with the risk of obviously the PR nightmare of the you know, he's the kind of left Florida and shambles a little bit. I disagree with with UH Kirby Weiser and the chat. He don't really leave Ohio state and shambles. Ohio states still find a kicking ass ever since he left Ohio state. So I don't agree with that comment.

So that's that's the reward aspect, the risk aspects, as you allude to, the PR nightmare that goes with hiring urban but you know, once again, people make mistakes, people screw up, even coaches like Urban Meyer. Maybe he corrects himself, maybe he's a better human, a better husband, a better coach at the end of the day from everything that went on at Jacksonph and if he is a better person, if he is a better coach and learn from his mistakes and can improve on that, that's a pretty damn

good head coach. So I think the question is this. He would would would urban Meyer look at Nebraska's appealing job? That, to me, that's more of the question, because I think that once again, I think he has to be on the shortlist and definitely an offer us to come and I want to another point here is like going to my tangent here. You bring up the money aspect, and yes, it's gonna cost him an arm and leg to buy him.

But if Nebraska was was going to be stingy with money, why the Hell Are you firing frost with three weeks ago and essentially wasting seven and a half killon dollars? So if you're willing to wait seven and a half million dollars by keeping a coach around or not keeping coach onund for three more weeks, when you know you'RE gonna lose Oklahoma regardless, you got a bye week and

then it doesn't matter after that. Uh, you have money to spend in my in my mind, so they don't care how much it costs, they just want to win at this point. Okay, so here's the other deal. Why I don't feel great about urban here. And yes, there's PR risk, but again, I don't know that I actually believe that he is still that guy that won all those national championships. Yes, he did not leave Ohio state in shambles, but he wasn't really given the opportunity. He

was forced out the door. He did leave Florida and shambles when he stepped away for health problems and came back. That's one place. For what it's work. Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, that's fair. That's fair. But but again, I I do think it's been a while since he's had success. I think we were talking before the show. I thought that our producer, Ryan Brownie, made a really good point, which is that this is not a Florida or Ohio state type of job and not this is not one of

the major blue bloods. It's going to be harder Um for urban to win there than it would have been at his last couple of spots. And I know he did at Utah, but again, that's even longer ago. And more than that, like I feel like Nebraska needs a coach that represents the type of team that they have to be in order to have success in the modern

era of college football. Like, and by that I mean a a scrappy team, like, if I'm Nebraska, worrying about National Championships feels a bit presumptuous, like I know that is the goal, but how about we just build a solid foundation and put together a couple of winning seasons in a row? And I'm looking around right now and I see a Washington team that it looks very excited, has turned it around after Jimmy Lake, and that's why they go get Kaylin de Boor, a very proven head

coach on the small division three level. Uh Lante Leopold is doing great things at Kansas Right now. Another higher where you went and got a guy who had a lot of long term success at like small division three sort of level. You know, I love Jamie Chadwell out of Coastal Carolina. I think you got to try to catch a riser here, dude, and you gotta catch someone who's kind of young and scrappy as well and can bring you to where, Um, I guess, because like yeah, they're, they're, they're,

they're not one of the big dogs at all. Nebraska is not anymore, and so I don't know, you look around and then they look. There's even names like John Smith at Oregon State. I think he's doing a really good job. You want to get touch with him. Um Kalonnie Sataki, which I don't know why he would ever leave by U, but you know, enough money maybe. So, Um, Todd Muncan and Georgia's kind of interesting if you want

to do bill O'Brien's taking over awful situations before. So there are names out there that I would go with before Urban Meyer on multiple fronts. Some of those guys I would go with them before on the football front as well. But every single one of them is also just a way less of a headache. Higher I would say no, man, make you make a t I think you make valid points. A lot of people, someone, I think in Georgia fan the chat, said no, Todd Mankin. I don't think todd wants to be a head coach.

Maybe why? Why? To me, if you're an O C or a D C at a program that's winning like Georgia, uh, and you're making a ton of money as it already is, why take the headache of being a head coach at a place like Nebraska that hasn't had success? Million dollars, I get it, but that's seventy million headaches too. So I guess I mean it's like, how much more money do you really need? Like, like Athens is a great town. Athens in the phenomenal town. If you'RE gonna be a

coach in America. There's not many bit better places to live and raise a family than Athens. Georgia. You're making a ton of money. You don't have the headaches of being a head coach, responsibilities of being a head coach, like you also have to weigh in the quality of life, like if I win the coaching I would not want

to be a head coach. Like give me, give me a quarterback job that's making six figures, give me a a coordinator job that's making one of two million dollars, and I don't gotta deal with all the BS of being a head coach, like like Todd mounken can. And and I also feel brum right, like never doubt a human ability to want more money, like, even if it's not rational, right, uh, people don't care. Billionaires are out

here finding to make sure they don't pay any taxes. Um, but at the at the same time, Eron, I definitely see what you're saying. But this is where, this is why I always get the head so well, it's like, yeah, that's why I never got that job in the first place, because to me, I'm with you, one to two million year to chill under Kirby, like he's the lightning Rod.

He does all the recruiting. Sure you know you gotta do you know, you gotta close deals, you gotta talk to kids and family, but like, okay, yeah, Kurby has all the heavy lifting, he has to deal with all the media BS, and I just get to sit here call offices. Oh, and you're gonna give me the best players in the country, so I get to like just go out and call offices with a team that is just better than whoever winds up across me. I do get you. That sounds appealing. That sounds appeal but monkey

isn't interest. Like if he has that drive to get back to being a head coach, he is an interesting name because when he was at southern miss he was in a bad situation and he did well as a head coach. So it's it's just something to look look the bottom line is a retread. Like urban feels like such a trap in multiple different ways. For me, it's been too long. The kicking the kicker ship is still just insanity to me. I'm I'm for whatever it's work.

There's been no contact Nebraska nerble. I just want like for Nebraska fans, whoever does watch this, they need to understand that this isn't no matter who you get, this is not an easy rebuild. And let's let's also remember too, that Nebrassa is in the big tent uh, and right now the big ten is pretty, pretty good and they've been really good. You've got the big boys in that conference.

You're about to add USC and U C L A and not really too scared about ul a. But you're adding another elite program with a damn good coach and a program that looks like they're they're they're somewhat back right now. So you're in a situation where you're gonna be recruiting against all those schools, competing against all those schools year in and year out, and you're already so far behind. This is a this is once again a three or four year project, regardless of whoever gets the job.

Like there's not gonna be all of a sudden magic's gonna Click and some head coaches Canna go on there and turn this program one of two years, like you're just to me. The main thing right now is patients, patients, patients, like you alluded to tea Bob. Just get to a bowl game, like can you get to six and six? And that should be their goal for the next two years. And then trying to rebuild from there. I mean, you

know me, I used the space station analogy. Like you, you look like an asshole if you're talking about colonizing Mars and you can't even get of the atmosphere. Like what are we doing? Let's take care of the little things first, then the big things. Um. Now, in terms of the turnaround, though, it can happen quicker now than ever with the portal, but it's, it's, it's, it's it's risky. Well, well, it's still it's still a multi year Um type of

situation to established and consistent success. Flat The impaler frost is a terrible coach, talking about the fact that if Scott Frost couldn't win in Nebraska, who can? That's what Jack Herrinon said. Yeah, look, man, I I kind of think maybe frost is a bad coach. I don't know. We'll we'll have to wait and see. I think I think he may be a bad coach. I'm I'm I'm not. I guess it's gonna depend on what he does next. Yeah, well, what do we mean here? Do we mean? Do I

mean head coach? Are we just talking, like what side of the ball did he come up on? Because I'm not talking about his actual guy. That's okay. I'm not talking about his actual ability to coach XS and Os. I think after if you look at what happened Nebraska, with the bye and the resources everything else that he had at his disposal, I think you make an argument that he's not good at the CEO role of being the head coach, which is a massive, massive part of it.

But we'll see. We'll see if he gets another, another job again. Another crack is a head coach somewhere. I mean I wouldn't even be surprised if he goes back to the group of five. I know you want our next topic, Brian Harson, to go to a group of five. I could see Scott Frost. I mean he's been a head coach for a long time now, you know, and it's hard to kind of go backwards and do a either a position role or a coordinator role once you've been kind of the boss Man at UCF and the

success he had there. That obviously going to NE BRAS can be the head guy. Like I could see a group of five teams said Hey, come on, frost, you've had success at this level. Come back, have success and then four or five years see if he wants to jump back into the big boy pool. Well, I mean, well, he's gonna at Alabama first. So one or two years as an analyst, and may he'll go to the halfway house, maybe even the rest of this year. Go ahead and hire him now, Nick, and then, uh yeah, and then

turn around next year. Sure, Lito or something like that, the coach o route and go enjoy that seven a half million dollars for a little bit and then he can you know, did you see oh seven half million dollars? It's an extra seven half. So yeah, so, Oh son is Uh Oh son is coaching at Miami right now. And have you seen at Miami at Ozer on? It's fantastic. Not only is he chatting up hot blonds at the pool as he does, but my man's is looking Brown. I mean his, his Cajun coloring is as Cajun and

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a little deep in my cups and I was popping off. But, like, I stand by a lot of what I remember saying. Uh, and it looks like Paul Finebaum might agree. As Paul Finebaum says, quote, just feels over for Brian Harson at Auburn and I kind of I kind of feel the

same air in this situation just feels awful. And answer this question, Aaron Um and you can do this from your own perspective if you want to get in the head space so an Auburn Fan, you can approach the answer however you want, but if you could fire Brian Harrison today without a buyout, would you? I wouldn't. No, no, I would not fire Harson. But I do agree with you that the writing it's on the wall. He's gonna be let go after the season. Uh, just right now.

You look at this football team, has not been a good football team for the first three weeks. That was an embarrassing loss to penn state. It was a moment watching that game and then rewatching the tape where I was like wow, like, Penn state actually has better players in Auburn, besides maybe the running back position, where I thought, you know, even Penn State's young running backs actually pretty

good there in the fourth quarter. And then you obviously got Owen Peppo at Linebacker, but Penn State does two really good linebackers to like every position for Penn state was better than Auburn then, besides the running back spot.

And that's not good when you're an SEC team that's supposed to be at this level and you kind of view sec here in big ten down here that you're getting whipped at home the way you did and the way it looked was just not a good not good for Allen fans and not good for hars and you're throwing the fact too that Alan Green is is is left the building, the former athletic director for Auburn. When a new a D comes in at a program like Auburn, an SEC school that wants to win in football, what's

he gonna want to do? He's gonna want to bring in his guy, that is his head coach, that he believes in, that's gonna turn this program into success in this conference. So, uh, it does not look unless they can just completely one eighty this thing or three sixty or whatever number that needs to happen that they do it. If they do, if they do it, three sixty right back where they are now. Yeah, you had to right. Yeah, math is not my thing. I can read to cover two,

cover three and cover four. That's the only numbers I know in my life. Um. So, yeah, unless that happens, unless, I think right now, if his saving number is eight, which just ain't gonna happen because he's already one, you're gonna lose to Alabama, YOU'RE gonna lose to Auburn. Uh so you only got you know, two more in that schedule and there's a lot of teams that look pretty

good right now in the SEC. So yeah, I don't think it's Gona happened, but I do think you said a pretty bad precedent at at at Auburn, you fired your previous head coach. I don't believe should have been fired. Now, you give a coach two years to have success. He doesn't, you get rid of him. To me, I just don't know. You know who wants that job. You know you got to compete against Nick Saban every year. You have to

be compared to Nick Saban every year. And then now, knowing that you get two years to do it and if you don't, you're gonna be out trying to find your next job. So yeah, I don't know if it's because Harson wasn't an SEC guy that he's getting so much flak, and that could be it. Like he's a guy from the mountain west. People really didn't know much about him. He comes into SEC territory, wasn't a lot of people's first choice. was kind of up against the

ropes already. It just seems like he's been finding it up. Feel bad all that. I think maybe for him it may be healthy just to end it in the year anyways. So that's that. That's my thing right, because I do want to push back against the idea of fit, because we talk, you know, it's Brian Kelly a fit and else, you know, like like we always say, like winning is a fit, like if you can make a good program and win, well, that's what works. So the problem with

Harson and Auburn are multiple fronts. First off, the situation is toxic, the booster situation, the a D being gone, the fact that when Harson was originally hired he wasn't even allowed to Um make his own decisions in terms of the staff, like like Brian Kelly got carte blanched, like Scott Woodard said, here's a hundred million dollars, and I get that Harson doesn't have the resume of Calley,

and so that's one of the reasons why. But Woodward said, look, I'm paying you to go make my legacy by winning football games and I trust that you can do that. So now go do it. Whoever you need, I'll get you the money. You just go do it. Harson never had that sort of support at Auburn. So from the beginning. It was flawed right. And then there are also questions that we don't know about how he does on the SEC level and how competitive is the step up from

Boise wears a little more Um, I don't know. Secular is the right where maybe insulated is the word that I'm looking for, whereas so much more competitive and everybody's fighting with one another. And in terms of build a program. Unfortunately, what got Dan Mullen fired rolling his eyes at the recruiting question. Look at Auburn and the recruiting rankings right now,

and I know the supposed to recruit. Now. How are you supposed to recruit when for two years everyone's talking about his firing, Herson and he just got in the building? That is like they're sabotaging themselves here. Yes, they are, but sometimes that they are in what you would call

a classic vicious cycle. It's like that bastard in Austin powers, you know, I eat because I'm unhappy and I'm unhappy because I eat the same thing with Auburn, okay, and they just can't figure it out because they just keep talking. That might be your best one right there. I mean it's true, though, Dude, it's sad but true. Like what do you do? And it's like Auburn. Auburn is right now a constant. I believe it's called like a Sophie's choice,

right when both choices are bad. They are. They are one big rock and a hard place, because if you stick with Brian Harrison, it doesn't look like there's a lot of hope for the future. It looks like he cannot compete on the recruiting trail. Auburn is Um losing on the weekends as well as in the off season. Uh so you're like, okay, well then we got to move on. But then everything you just said two years again. You get rid of him. Probably never should have gotten

rid of Gus Mals on in the first place. You're paying millions of millions more and buy out money in the age of N I l where you would much rather just actual pay kids to come to your school with that money. So no, it is brutal, and that's why, but that's why it feels so awful if you're an olver fan, because what is the way out? What is

the way out? I mean honestly, honestly, Um push comes to shove, I think you gotta take like a mega long term view on this and I think you gotta eat the Brian Bullet for two more years and I think you just gotta see how good or bad he can make it and then you move on and you try to catch a big time higher the next time around just to be almost like taken seriously, to make yourself attracted the coaches once again. But I don't know, Dude. Actually, now that I'm saying this, hell out. I mean, look

at Tennessee. Nobody wanted to go there. They finally settle for Hypool and it was kind of clowned in view to settling because the hired Ju CFS E D and they're like, oh'll just go get my old head coach. Right. But hypel's done great at Tennessee, so maybe you go ahead and fire him. Um, but God damn, I mean I just mm HMM. No, I take it back. Actually, I'm changing my complete I think you gotta fire I'm gonna I'm gonna wait to make that decision until after

the L S U game. So they have Missouri this weekend. Missouri is bad, like if I mean if you lose, if you lose to Missouri, you know we may be talking about Harson gin fired middle of the season because it's gonna go get even uglier from there. But I anticipate a win versus Missouri at home, and I think the big one is gonna BE L S U. L S U, as we know, it is not good last year. We've alluded to it. They have a new head coach,

new system, new transfers, this, that and the other. If they can come into your house and win in year one with coach Kelly, I think that kind of shows Auburn fans like, damn, maybe we do need a head coach. And then you look after that Georgia, Ole, Miss Arkansas, Mississippi State, Texas and M and then Alabama. So if you can't beat L S U, there's only one game on that schedule I feel like they can win and that's western Kentucky there at the end of the season.

So now you're talking about a team that's gonna be one, two, three, four wins. Yeah, I mean, no, no, yeah, I think the breaking point for me if you if you lose Lsu at home, that's when I think it really starts to ramp up because I cannot find a win on that schedule. Once again, after L S U, it's at Georgia, loss at all, Miss Loss Verse Arkansas Loss, at Mississippi

state loss. That's five straight in a row. I mean he may not make it through the end of the season with how much they want to get rid of him if he cannot get especially the offense going. I mean he's still and then they like it's the same

issue we're having with Jimbo right now. It's like saying them, you were brought in here to win, yes, but you're also brought in because you're an offensive mind, and we think at Boise State, we think of the front plays, the excitement on offense, and we're not getting that at all burns. So it's a double whammy. You're not winning and your offense sucks, so why are you here? That's that's exactly like. If they were scoring points and losing,

then okay, it's fun. Like they're often sucks. It's two years down. The offense is not getting better. You got rid of Bobo. That was the problem, was it? Well, also, also, can we also say this, though? Can we all say this? Aaron Brian Harson was never really an attractive hire to begin with, which is another element in all of this is that it felt like Auburn settled. They took a risk like you. They took a risk like you want. You want Nebraska take a risk. They took up, they

took a high flying on on. I don't know about that. I don't know. Yes, no, I think. I think. I think they settled on Harson. They kept striking out on guys. I think they settled on Harson. If Nebraska was to hire one of the guys that I was talking about, like a Chad, well, I think. I think people would be excited. Like Auburn fans were pissed. What was the better job, Auburn Post mails on or Nebraska right now? Because if, if that was the best Nebraska, excuse me,

Auburn can do. What's the best that the brass is gonna do? I think this guy, this guy, this guy. But like doesn't mean they're gonna want to go there. I view Auburn is a better job than Nebraska. Maybe. I mean the big tens hard, the SEC is hard. You could argue that to wash. I mean, I hate sharing the state with Alabama. That just seems awful. Like, I mean, I don't know how you're supposed to operate

in such tight confines. Um, I don't know the Nebraska booster and administration situation well enough to really give an educated comment on that. I feel like I like the buy in from Nebraska right in terms of fan base and money, like you'll have resources, but you have that at Auburn as well. So I don't know. Um, I don't know why I randomly started to convince myself they should stay with Brian Harrison. I think that's really stupid. I think. I think they probably gotta hit the full

reset whenever this new a D comes in. They really need Arizona State too. I would be calling Arizona s tall. Like, guys, guys, gotta tell you about Brian. Great Guy, I mean the dude is solid. Wait till you see this off and Sti Um, Jack Herrings did this role tie t hey jack onemore time from the chat, you idiot. Alright, uh, here we go. Next up, how about it? Dude, the Pack Twelve Air Murray, sexiest weekend of the West has had in quite some time, as Utah beats up on

San Diego State. Thirty five, seven, Washington with the massive win over Michigan State. Thirty nine, UM, jumping into the ring, knocking Michigan state out of the rankings from eleven and jumping themselves from out the rankings and the number eighteen. Our Boys, the Trojans, fight on Handel Fresno state seventeen, Oregon Forty One, B Y U twenty. Cal gave Notre Dame all they wanted. Washington state is three and Oh, pack twelve, take a bound man. This is the this

is the best weekend. I don't know, like if this is a fact in my call to weld you mind. This is literally the Best Week in the PAC twelve has had and what feels like a decade. Yep, no, it's, it's it's a big weekend, uh and, and I think the bigger reason why it's such a big weekend is because USC is doing well, like you have a brand that is excelling, and I think that's what the PAC twelve needs, like they need USC to be the US, the USC that we think and believe they can be.

In right now they look like to me. I did my ranking yesterday. I think I have them as like number five or six in the country at the moment. They pass the test. We knew how good they are on offense. Fresno state is a good offense who they faced this past weekend, and they're able to hold them to seventeen points. That's a huge encouraging sign that this is not just a team that's gonna have to score fifty points per game in order to win. The defense

is not bad, they're not great, they're not bad. They're good enough to allow them to go out there and and and and be in every single game and obviously win the majority of the Games inside that conference. Oregan is good. Uh, it's just Georgia's elite just playing out. George's gonna make everyone look stupid. UH, they they're just they're at a different level that I don't care who you are, they're gonna make you look like a bunch of idiots, unless you're, you know, Alabama or Ohio state,

maybe Oklahoma, but other than that you're in trouble. Oregon still a very, very good football team. Bo Nix, my boy, is still a good quarterback. Oregan is still in it. Utah has been kicking ass ever since they got whooked by Florida. Kind of sucks that Florida doesn't look good right now for them, but still, Utah is still a good youth football team Washington with panics looks phenomenal at the moment. So yeah, a lot of hype for the

PAC twelve. They deserve it. I'M gonna say a big reason why the PAC twelve is doing so well because what do we think of PAC twelve? We think of PAC twelve late night football. What do we think of snaps? Saturday night snaps, the show to watch when the game they're over, when pack twelve's going on? Since we started snaps late night Saturday, the pack twelve success has gone up. Yeah, I mean it's pack twelve where we're here for you late night Saturday nights, snap in the PAC twelver, here

to entertain snap twelve, snap twelve after midnight. There's a lot there. Uh and Aaron. We all know from school correlation always one equals causation. I'm pretty sure that's how the saying goes. So yeah, those two correlating factors. Without a doubt, we are the cause of the pack twelve recent success. And you're right about Oregon Um. It's it's it's a big win for U G A because it proved what we thought that was more about the bulldogs not as much about the ducks. And then what can

we say about High Little Trojan Boy Gang? Dude, it's growing every single day. It's for real, it's for life. And I told you before the game if USC covered that twelve and a half, and not only they covered twelve and a half but they made it look easy, that it was playoff. Push full speed ahead. I uh, I need to look at the futures on Fanduel. I will be taking out a future on USC two make the playoff today, depending on where the odds are at. I think there's enough juice there. But, like I'm full

steam ahead with USC UM. And you know, you know you. We always talking about and again Washington state sneaky good three and the Wisconsin win. UH SNEAKY GOOD Games coming up this weekend here Aaron. That I want to get to in a minute. Um, what else? I had one more note here. Oh, we always have about wanting the brand of USC to be good. I really like when the huskies are good as well. There's something about the Purple Uni's Little Pacific Northwest Power. Uh, it feels very

kind of nineties to me in a way. So maybe it's just a byproduct of my childhood, but I also like when Washington is a good brand. But you know how powerful that Bass. Now coming up this weekend to celebrate the weekend. We just had a couple of good ones. Dude. Oregon at Washington state. We just mentioned the COOGS. undefeated. Oregon likely the far better team there. But I'm more interested in that game, and then I would have been

before the season started a month ago. And then USC at Oregon State, who, of course, we talked to John Smith earlier day, done a very good job taking over an awful Oregon State program. Um. They got the Nice Win Against Fresno a couple of weeks ago and uh, I think USC smashes them, but it's it's a matchicon it would have. I think USC is like a touchdown favorite right now, so I might have to jump on. Yeah, UM, okay, we hey, we know our pack Tel football over here

in snap. So Hey, pack twelve, want us a bet? I don't. I don't want to beat too soon, you know, but U C L A three and o. But they may be in a little bit of a snip, snip sip for me in this next segment. So I'll back my uh my brewin talk for a second. Here's what I'll say. Um, USC is still a loose, legitimate team in the pack twelve, but I want to be good. I want all the conference will be good. I'm excited. I don't know, though, that this weekends like this is if.

If if, the real question is, are you buying the pack twelves re emergence? I'm enjoying it, I'm still not buying it yet. Um, I gotta see. Well, I think. I think overall, I'm not buying it because the pack is not going to be around about two years. So it's a it's a risky stock, like you get in now, you buy it. When it raises, you just cash out and you run out because it's so this is like the it's the last dance, it's the last two off for the pack twelve. Let's go out blaze of glory,

let's go in and then they're done. Man, they're about to get an axe in their head chopped off here in the next couple of years. So, Um, you know, it's good to see them have success. I just don't think like long term, let's say, I'm just not a believer that the pack twelve is gonna be around when US see in U C L A go bye bye. When the big ten goes in there and takes Oregon in Washington, and maybe a couple more. When the big twelve takes one or two, if not four, there's just

not gonna be any thing laughs. So enjoy it. Why you can pack twelve, because I don't think there's gonna be a pack twelve in two years. Yeah, this is the pack twelve. Panics, pump and dump. Okay, so we'RE gonna buy stock for a few weeks here. Right now. It is time and shouting. Everybody hanging out of the chat with this man. Uh, Andrew Light, Dog Jack was happening, y'all? We got Kirby's visor in there, T J. UH, look, we we love you all. Samuel Aires, go ahead and

hit the like button. Share with your friends. Herman. What's up? Man? All right, it is time. It's Monday. We do it every Monday. Little recap that we can give it a little snips and snaps. You get it. SNIPS are bad, you're cutting it out full house style. Snaps are good. Aaron Murray, uh, you want to go first year? Give me your first snip of the day. We're going negative to start the day. Wow, I love it? Well, yeah, that's on me. I just saw this. Go give me

a sniff. FIRST SNIP first, I'll give you a SI. First. My snip is firing coaches US early on in the season. Uh, you're you're essentially just throwing the towel and you're saying we suck. Let's move on. I can understand if it's like middle to end of the season, you kind of want to get going with the coaching search. You want to be the first one come December, January, to hire a new head football coach. Like, what, week three? What are you doing? Why? Why are we firing someone in

week three of the season? We've not even really gotten into conference play, for Goodness Sake, like, let's hold off on essentially quitting on the football team in week two and three of the season. So major snip to all these universities just being a bunch of babies and getting rid of their head coaches so early on the season. You See, I'm gonna spends on it. I'm gonna tell the players. No, no, it's not a lack of commitment. We're so committed to you that we had to get

this joker out of here. Okay, we need we we need to start this. We need to start this rebuilding process right now. Uh, my first snip. Well, right, and lie with that. Her mad words fired on the field. Brom hit the video here. We don't need sound or anything, but you can see herm Edwards walking off the field. DO THEY ALLUDE TO EASTER WASHINGTON? Yeah, there you go from thank you. And you can see here that's the a D he's talking to and it's that back pad,

that lower back pad. It's coming up here in a minute, um, Aaron, and it's it's it's that moment when you basic, yeah, that's it, we decided, that's that's you know where. decided to let you go. Uh, we're you know, we're gonna move ahead, we're gonna move on. Herm, herm new was coming Um a bit of a coach or I don't know. I don't know why they felt the need to do it on the field, but that lower back, the this thing right here, you knew that was hey, we've are you.

They had already talked about in the past. That was just a confirmation as soon as herm saw him standing there. It's essentially the grim reaper standing by your bedside. But again, what it confirms is. You should have known this was how it was gonna end. Brom play Herm's original opening press conference at Arizona State. This is a top three all time bad opening press conference. We all filter your top I'm sorry, it's all good. That's good. Uh. Are we gonna play with audio or not? I don't care.

Either way, we will stand by. Okay, cool, but I mean this is up there. The herm Edwards thing is up there with Adam gaze and his like cocaine eyes when he was introduced as the jets head coach, looking so freaking weird. Major Red Flag. All right. Uh, my first snap of the day the tiny panics pump parlay. Okay, not only did best pets go three, you know, this weekend, but the panics pump hit Washington jumps into the top twenty five, Michael, panicst three, four, tuds, no picks. Let's

go panics pump parlay. Marry, give me your first snap. I love it. I love it. Three and Oh, big staff for t bob for the weekend. Your boy over here. Two and one. I bought it in Nebraska. Should not have done that, but I'll take a winning record for the weekend. All right. My first big snap of the weekend, Brian Kelly, applied to you, T bob, once again. That was a big win, man. I still think Mr State is one of the premier teams in the SEC to win that game at home. The fan base is freaking

juice right now. They've looked good since the fourth quarter of F S U to the blowout last week for southern to now the big win this past weekend. First MISSIPI state. That is a monster, monster win and we said it early on in the show a few weeks ago. Like Lsu, is going to win some Games based on this coaching staff and based on the players that you are not expecting them to win. They're just too talented not to create some of these upsets. So congratulations to

coach Kelly and the Tigers, the Tigers. They're rolling, baby, they are rolling. All right, we'll send the positive side of things here. Uh, snap, snap, snaps. UH, Greg sank you says the SEC right now is focused on a single giant division. Said they looked into the pod model and it doesn't really work and at some of the

same problems with the current model. Does Um, and I know that some traditionalists will be upset by this, but then again, sec divisions are kind of relatively recent thing anyway. But beyond that, all that matters is as you're remaking all of college football anyway, it makes sense to me to eliminate the divisions, make one giant one, eliminate any of the conversations about competitive balance or the east as USI.

In the western anything like. If we're changing everything else, change this and just have one giant sixteen team conference. Sounds pretty cool to me. I'm into it. I think this is a snap for me. Well, it allows you to keep those rivalries, because when we talk about with the pods is, I'll give Georgia for example, like you're gonna keep Georgia versus Florida, but you can't really keep Georgia versus Auburn Um. Same thing with flour. You can't keep L S U. I guess that's a rivalry. Uh.

So there's certain rivals that you'RE gonna lose. By going to this model, you ensure that, if you want, you can keep those traditional rivalries still alive. So I'm all for it. Man, as long as we continue to mix up the schedule, I think sec fans will be extremely happy about being able to travel to new places. Uh, my next snap I'm gonna go the SEC, since we're we still are in divisions here in the SEC. The SEC east. UH, Tennessee will be hosting Florida in college

game date. Will be heading to Knoxville. I was Anoxville this weekend covering the game for ESPN. UH, for a game that was a blowout. It was packed, two thousand people. They are feeling it, they are believing in it and it's a good sign. And Florida has been shaking in their wins. It's still a good sign for the East that Game Day is going to two teams that need to be obviously better, and I think right now Tennessee is a chance that'd be a nine, ten went team.

Florida still some question marks, but so good football team. So I think it's a big, big plus for the east. Okay, I'll run through my last couple of snaps, snips here. Um, I'm just gonna go through two because I don't I don't need whatever. One of the snips is four hour weather delays at Iowa Football Games. UH, some people actually stayed from six thirty PM until one thirty nine am to watch the Iowa Hawke Eyes when that is almost eight hours. Y'All, that is insane. Respect to the people

who stayed. Unbelievable. Snip to God, though, for making Iowa fans go through that after the first two weeks like the football gods give them the most awful office you've ever seen for two weeks and then the one day they scored touchdowns, you make those poor people sit in the stands for eight hours to watch the rent. They'll come on, dude. That's that's left up. Uh. And then my next snil uh. Do we have that clip of

Tommy Reeves, and this does not need sound goods. It's up to you, but this is Tommy Rees and he's talking to drew pine, I imagine, which been interesting, because Pine, staff, there, are you located? Okay, okay, okay, the Tommy Reese clipped there, Tom do your fucking job, basically to drew pine. They got less than three hundred yards against cal cal gave up more against both the U C Davis and U NLV, snipping Tommy Reese and no, dame off, it's what you got.

They at least say they came back and pine looked good there or bed room I would say good. He looked better in the second half. So big, big shout out to to Marcus Freeman getting his first win. I'll give him a mini snap victory there at netre dame. Uh My last don't have any more snips. Oh yeah, the big step. I said I was gonna say it. I'M gonna say no, U C L A, I don't know if you saw it or not. There was maybe like five thousand people in the stands up. Embarrassing, absolutely embarrassing.

What's going on there? It's time to either. There's a few things. You need better scheduling. They're playing crappy teams. I mean no one wants to on a on a on a beautiful Saturday afternoon in Los Angeles go watch US L A win a game against a crappy football team. Schedule Better Games. If you want people to stand, do better early on the season with some non conference or maybe schedule some games that are lesser teams within the State of California so those fans maybe travel up, go

to l a go to the football game. So just be better there. But it's embarrassing. Man U C L A, you're about to join the big boys in the big ten. You're about to get all this money. Maybe you should invest in a new stadium closer to campus, a little bit smaller, make a little bit more intimate, more fun, especially for the students. But once again, California. What do they believe in? T BOB stocks? Let me see remember. Oh Yeah, wait, is the beach stocks in tech? That

was it. Those are the big three. Yeah, Yeah, Skating and surfing. I guess you can throw that. That's kind of the bench as well. And vegan protein. Yeah, snap, that's a snip for me, but I was not snapping vegan protein, I was snacking. I was snapping my last one here, which is rock Chock Jayhawk. Dude. How about Kansas? They beat w one week is double digit, fourteen point dogs. They're nine point dogs against Houston. They win by eighteen. Their three and over the first time. Sat Joe Nine

Duke at Kansas this weekend. undefeated. Let's go, Dude, averaging three a game. I'm excited and I want to give a little bonus. SNAP. It's one of the local teams here in Louisiana, two lane green wave man, undefeated and just handled a good Kansas state team that just beat the hell out of Missoo last week. So Nice job to head coach Willie Fritz. Two Lane is a very hard place to win. All right, Aaron, what what's your what's your toy? That's my last snap. Yeah, I get

some lovely cans. Well, I know a lot of people were a lot of people were bitch and moaning that they wanted game day to go to Kansas First Duke too, basketball, traditional schools, undefeated. But you know, they went to the problem with prob with that. That's the problem. That's the problem. You did the boon thing. If you had not done the boon thing, absolutely that would have been on the big staffs. The Boon Baby. That Hail Mary was just,

we thought it beautifully executed. Beautifully you had the trail guy, t bob, now knows how to properly run a hell Mary. Yet the points behind the point. Yet the CABOOSE, the caboos is there to catch the tip. Beautifully done. Big Snap, Boon. I'm glad you did not burn down they did. The caboose is there to catch the tip. Okay, I guess I kind of knew that. No, that was good, dude. NIP, snipper, snipper, snap for Mark Sanchez's comment during the football game yesterday.

Oh wait, wait, hold on, hold on, no, no, no no, no, what is this? What is this? I, or should we say this for tomorrow? H Is it worth playing the show? Snipper snap, snipper snap. Do we do we have it? Are we able to get it real quick? I don't know if he she essentially said one offense, Leman did a great block, and he said, you know, he's clearing guys out faster than a high school kid clears out

his browser. I don't do that. The Big Snap O. Hell, yeah, Dude. Actually, it's a little bit of a snip, though, because nobody's clearing browsers anymore. Bro, incognito mode, private browsing, like if you're still manually deleting history, what are you doing, dude, like wake up. Okay, come on, it's tree. I guess not. It's two, but I'm living in tree. That's how danced I am. Man, all right, Dude, look, last thing. We gotta play the harm do we have harm Brom? Can

we go out on this? Okay, I love this is one of my favorite and, by the way, shout out to fanduel. Sign up with Promo coach snaps, subscribe to the pod. Uh, hit the like button. Thank You'all so much for hanging out this here on the volume sports youtube channel. Back tomorrow. I'm Catholic now I'm a Christian. Watch out them devils, we're good. Brother, all over the plate. Wait, wait, oh my God, White Dude, I haven't seen it in years.

I forgot how bad it is. He really has no idea that he just got hired to be the Sun Devil's head coach. He think that guy is from a website promoting satanism. Replay that from replay that. What? What? How did you just getting paid millions of dollars to me the head coach of the school and you don't even know the Mascott? Yes, there are you located, my man? Right, okay, okay, I'm I'm Catholic now I'm a Christian. Watch out them devils. Were good over the place. That guy's like, I'm located tippy,

you dumbass. What do you mean? We're about love. Also, there's something amazing about when herm says, like, you know, I'm about them devil's and he moves his head and there's a literal pitchfork behind him on the media screen. Oh my God, Dude, that was dad's. I forgot, Brom thank you for playing that. I'd really forgot. I knew it was a gym. I'd forgotten that. And Adams of fames. You need to compare press conferences for success. We just need to go find uh, we need to find Harson's

press conference and just look for something that went wrong. Yeah, exactly, exactly right, like we we didn't put together herm. What the hell did all right, Aaron Murray, well, you have a great day to enjoy to Daytona beach. Enjoyed that. How many how do you approach your foot? Foot a touchdown club? How many curse words? A little topless, little topless run on the beach right now. So a little white Um. We go, we go, we we obviously start with calling the dogs. So what we call the dogs?

First off, it's a lot of hood in Holland and barking. You know, we'll break down Georgia. We'll talk about how good sets it is. Why does there's the heisman. That will go a little east, a little West, overall college football, and then I'm gonna tell everyone at the end. If you want more of this, please subscribe to snaps every day to right. It's right. And then I find in those rooms. Judge the room, but maybe, like, save the curse word for one big moment and you'll get a

big laugh. That's my favorite way to handle it. Dude, just just want to drop the taste book. Curse. You can have bombs are a little sketchy. You're gonna have to. You gotta judge the food based on the room, for sure. Yeah, I dropped it at my my rehearsal dinner, like I feel like the group and I dropped in. My mother in law looked at me like wow, like you're really gonna Mirry t Bob. Have you noticed? I'm sorry that we're going so long. Have you noticed? Aaron very much

does not curse? It's very rare. I think. I think he did something. Um. Yeah, no, I know, and I used to be like that. And you work for ESPN too, like that makes sense. I used to be like that and then they started paying me just to be a just truly live my truth on Saturday nights and Wednesday nights, and I was like, all right, hey, this is my lot in life. If I got to go make uncouth jokes and somewhat crass entertainment. Well, Hey, we all gotta

make a living. Dude, what are you gotta do? UH, Aaron, have a great day to town the beach. Are you looking? Man, okay, I'm I'm Catholic. Now I'm a Christian. Watch out them devil, I'll say it. You're good brother. We're gonna demosol all over the place. The Volume

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