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today to make every moment more Yo, what's happening? Everybody? Welcome man to this Monday edition of Snaps. Here in the Volume Sports YouTube channel Also, if you're listening on podcasts, what up? Uh? Thank you so much. We love doing snaps. We're very happy to have you here. I am your host, t Bob Abert, joined by the new father of two SEC record holder QB one U G A great Aaron Murray, Aaron, what's up man? How the bags under the eyes looking? I mean a little puffy right now? I was using

my wife's like machine to take the soordness out. But now we're doing good. We're doing good. We're doing good using the do you have to go on Big Time TV? I get it. I look like a TV from how I look like a corpse that is somehow walking right now? Um, I feel awful today. I don't know what's going on. I woke up and took a shower in the middle of last night because I was just drenched in sweat. And then I woke up like violently shivering this morning. Look at these I bags and ain't good dude. We'll

see um negative for fluent COVID. So that's good. Congrats though, Aaron. Um. I mean we had the show Friday, but that was just kind of a quick best bet. How is it going from one to two kids? Oh man, it's it's different for those who do have multiple kids, you know, it's it's man on man now. Like today was the prime example. This morning. Maddox was a little under the weather this weekend, so we didn't send the school today. So it was okay, you got Maddox in the morning.

I got Miles because obviously I have to do the feeding and whatnot. So it's no longer Hey, I gotta go take a couple call. As you get Max for an hour, I get Max for an hour when he's home. Uh, it's it's you get one, I get one. So a lot of little minute time, which I love, don't get me wrong. I love part time with little Man, but during the week when we got shows, it gets a little bit tight, a little day gets condensed a little bit. T Bob Uh yeah, man, I feel you, I feel you.

I feel you on that we got that. We got babies in the air. Dude. One of our moderators, Bilbo T. Baggins, just had his first child. Huge congrats to him, and uh, it's such a funny name to say Bilbo te Baggins while being sincere um and then and then obviously on Friday, I'm going to have my third kids, so I have to feel better. I'm gonna feel better. Look, I want

to be clear about something. I came into work today. Okay, I'm with my morning show and this show because I don't want Jimbo Fisher and those goddamn Aggie's to think that they ran me off after that embarrassment Saturday night. As somebody that jet logan says that to you, it looks like you're taking the lost pretty well. L uh No, I'm not. It was still hung over from the loss. That's that's what it is. He it was. It was miserable. That's the thing. I didn't even go that a hard tell,

and that doesn't matter. It's it's an absolutely miserable loss. It's the one thing that else you could not afford to do in terms of upsetting fans or kind of taking away a lot of the good is this season. It doesn't mean a ton in the end, and overall you're kind of in the Tennessee position now, Aaron, where you got to do the middal gymnastics and be like, okay, you know what, on balance, still a very good season. Never would have thought that, you know, you go neither

you win the West. Blah. But I'd be lying if I said it didn't hurt that you had a chance to ruin A and M and break them and send to the bottom instead, you give him some modicum of hope. You have now lost your New Year's six game and likely given that to Alabama or maybe even worse, maybe even given them another playoff opportunity. I mean, it was ship,

it was complete ship. But guess what, It's not gonna stop the Tigers from crapping all over your bulldogs this weekend because all it was was a little we're just trying to get Georgia. Because the problem is when Georgia focuses in, they're very dangerous this year. Okay, so L s U. You ever heard of playing possum? Right where you play dead? L s U? Trying to look as unthreatening and uninteresting as possible? Hell, that A and M offensive line? Where would you trash here in the show?

If they could push ellis you around? Oh well, surely George's gonna be no problem. Georgian goes sleep walking to the dome there at home, all these sorts of things, and that's when b K has a right where he wants you dude, So watch out Aaron Murray. And the rumor is A and M's be playing possible year anticipation of beating LSU. That was their goal. Okay, let's suck for eleven games. But our new big rivalry in the SEC is is l s U. We want to make sure we win that game. So let's just be awful

of the line in scripments. Let's have all these issue is a quarterback, and let's talk about Jim O getting fired. But then at the end we're going to ruin l s U in their hopes. I mean, how shitty is if for LSU fans yourself, including that's why you feel so bad this morning or this afternoon you with everything going on, Clemson losing UM with Ohio State getting blown out by Michigan, which well we'll discuss that too a

little bit. Make sure you go. Do you check out Tea Bob's reactions to some of those early games if you missed that over the weekend. But uh, L s U had an opportunity to really force the hand of the committee and say, yes, there's never been a two lost team make the playoff, but we just won the SEC. It's kind of a crap show year of not of of. I would say good teams, maybe not elite teams as we've seen in years past. Why don't we deserve an

opportunity to be in the final four. So regardless, if if if l SU for somehow, if every Georgia player wakes up with the flu this weekend and l SHO goes out there versus Georgia's third team and walk on and win fifty to nothing LS, you would still not make the playoffs because of the loss this weekend. Like that is I mean, that has to be just eating you up inside, knowing you squandered that opportunity to even give yourself a chance to make the playoffs because you

lost to the freaking Aggies. One of the worst things in the SEC this year. Feel it, It's insane because if you've watched snaps too, you've kind of known that throughout the entire year. I kept expecting him to have that week and when a game together and I finally relented after the U mask game, I'm like, you know what,

it ain't gonna happen. And then, of course, right when I started to believe that if freaking happens, dude, uh no, So it sucks, but look, we don't need to talk about LSU because they're relevant now to the larger college football conversation. I'm excited of the se championship and plenty of trash will be talked this week, but we must start earlier. In the chat, we had a go blue uh from someone and there we go Ja Wadley and shout out to everybody. Join us for time for your

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under raided. Man, they need more money. Yeah, it's the most watched game since eleven, which I believe actually might have been the game and sent you that I played in was about twenty million. But but to give you some context for Tabot brought the numbers so he could work in that. For those listening, very very you know what I'm telling you. I don't know if you ever played in front twenty mill but uh, um seventeen million people.

You know who didn't play in front the seventeen million people the US soccer team unless not here state side fifteen million for USA England on Friday. To your point, Aaron, we love us some college or university American football and uh and it was a classic American battle. Michigan Ohio State. We talked about it all week long. No two teams had ever faced ranked or in the top five more often and uh for a second year in a row, Michigan dominates Ohio State, I mean breaks the will of

Ohio State. Now crucially, it's in a setting where there could be no excuse for the Buckeyes this year. Okay, last year, Oh it was snowing. Oh it was in the Big House, so like all this. Okay, Okay, it was beautiful, perfect fifty plus degree weather, which might as well be seventy where they live. Uh, it was in the shoe Blake Coram. Michigan's best player, the player that we thought that if they didn't have him, he would be dead in the water. The team would be Blake

Korb didn't even play like it is. Michigan had every excuse to lose this game, and not only did they win it, but by the end again they had broken Ohio State over their knee. It was a dominance that was a site to behold. And now all of a sudden, the full resurrection of Jim Harbor on that Michigan program is complete, as it looks like in all likelihood they will be back to back Big Ten champs with back to back playoff appearance. Is just an unreal job by

Michigan on Saturday. Oh it was a different brand of football. I mean, coach hardballs. He made the decision screw everyone wanted me to run this style of offense that just isn't my personality. I'm not gonna be able to outrecruit Ohio State and and in the skill positions, I'm not gonna be able to bring in the five star receivers and the guys that run four twos and four three's and run a spread offense and go up tempo in the r P. O was like, he sprinkles that in,

But what can we do? We can be more physical, We can win the line of scrimmage on offense, we can win the line of scrimmage on defense, and we can punch him in the mouth. We can show what big, ten, hard nose football is all about. And that's how we're going to win in this rivalry. And you've seen it now for two straight years. They're the more physical team.

They're the team that punches you in the mouth the very first play to the very last play, and they just where and where and where and where you're down. He saw some of those big runs there in the fourth quarter when essentially Ohio State said no, boss, like we've we've been punched enough, We've gonned ten twelve rounds. We don't want anymore of this Michigan football team. And second straight year, regardless of the temperature you said it,

it wasn't snown as a beautiful day. It was a day that we said, hey, if you had to, if you had a perfect day for Ohio State, fifties, so me at home, go out there and do your thing. C J. Stroud, go win you the damn Heisman, Go beat Michigan and then lead your team to the playoff. And they played well on defense, Michigan and obviously once again, you know J J McCarry again, I will I will apologize right now to j j uh somewhat of apologies.

This will be a half ass apology. You played the best game of your career, half ass because I want to say it like this. Those receivers were wide ass open, t Bob. They were wide like you feeling like crap today. I would bet money that you could go out there and throw like they were fifteen yards behind the dbs of Ohio State. It's not like he was out there pinpoint accuracy, fitting balls in between defenders, throwing it just out of reach of a defender into the arms of

a receiver. No. No, these guys were running wide ass open, so you hit him. It's it is harder than that I'm making out to be. I get that, but um so, so that's why I'm like half ass apology to JJ because I still think that he will be the reason why they don't win a national championship this year. But congratulations, unwinning doubter of Stetson last year is how you sound about J J. McCarthy. Stets and Stetson performed quarterback last year.

He wasn't. I will say I I will say this, well, first off, from put it on the pole is a half ass apology and apology at all, Like I don't end up like a no offense and then I'm gonna insult you. But like because I said that, like it's still an insultent the like, I don't know if half ass apology really counts as any sort of apology. But but um no, look look we we we we said

this on Saturday. Okay, Um, he is not by any stretch of the imagination as good of a traditional quarterback as c. J. Stroud, But uh, he did exactly what he needed to do in order to unlock that defense and set that team up for success in the second half. Right Like Ohio State was clearly selling out to stop the run, all Michigan had to prove was could they take the top off? And they did that three different times, and all of a sudden, how States having to hang

back a little more. And then you have that incredible Michigan offensive line, which one the Joe Moore last year. They're just as good, if not better this year. Like we said last week, maybe not even as much NFL talent as the Ohio State offensive line. But nobody plays better as a group, and J. J. McCarthy allowed Michigan to continue to lean, lean, lean, and then, like you said, after repeated body shots or house, they wanted nothing by the end, I will say this way, or as I

pressed to JD. McCarthy, though here and again, like you said, it's not in the traditional avenues of quarterback play, because what did he finish, like eleven of twenty two or like twelve and twenty four? I think he finished the Yeah, twelve twenty four, Like that's nothing something right about that's bad. That's like actually bad nowadays. But again in terms of the game flow, in terms of making the plays, he made those huge throws when he had to made him,

he ran when he had to run it. He gets in the end zone late on that third and goal where he actually runs past his lead blocker just to force his way in there, like he did an excellent job of making game winning plays and setting his team up for success. And really that's exactly Jim Harbaugh's wanted out of the quarterback position, like he has shown you time and time again, he doesn't really want some guy

like a C. J. Stroud or somebody else. They're gonna have to rely upon uh to throw it sixty times a game. He wants a guy who can manage make plays with his legs and ideally make those kind of game changing plays. That's exactly Ji McCarty has been all year, and now on the biggest stage against the best opponent,

it's exactly what it was once again. And on the other side of the equation you saw a much better quarterback and c J. Stroud who was much worse within the flow of the game and seemed to lose himself more and more as the game went on. And I don't know about you, Aaron, but it definitely felt like um, it doesn't felt like to me like c J. Strout was just very confused by what Michigan would show him at the end. He didn't go where, he didn't know where to go to the ball when he was hit

his back foot, he was hesitant. The Michigan was getting pressure with just four up front, which is obviously where you want to be as it defitsive coordinat to make your entire life easier. And so it's it is fascinating me that you could have two quarterbacks where like c. J. Strout's still better quarterback He's still a better NFL prospect, but he wasn't even close to winning this game. And it goes back to what we said about Michigan weeks and weeks and weeks ago. They might be the best

team in the country. I don't know the finished number one, but in terms of their strength at all these different position groups, they might be the best team in the country. And that's how it felt on Saturday. I mean, could you have fathomed at half if I would have told you that at a halftime Michigan would have ten rush yards to Ohio States one twenty, what would you have thought the score of that game would be. I would

not have thought seventeen. You thought was dominating, right, and and then so to come out the second half and then breakthrough and they end up flipping that Michigan Russias for two forty to Ohio States twenty. It was I mean, they broke them. And and as a competitor, a football player, anything that is the best feeling in the entire world.

And once you get a taste of that drug, of that rush of breaking your opponents will, especially when it's your most hated opponent, you desperately want to hit that ship again and it took a year, but they got to hit it again and then some and all of a sudden, O, how State fans are panicking asking, like us, Ryan Day, that good out of y'all? Well, two things you brought at the seven? You you broughably. You know, Blake Korm didn't really play with two two two two

Russias the entire game. Like then that goes back to, like what the perfect recipe for Ohio States to dominate this game was beautiful weather at home and core m wasn't playing like, Okay, this is easy. Let me just go put a big bag of money on on on Ohio State covering the points. There's no way in hell Michigan is gonna go accomplish this game. Yeah, that's that is you do. I thought you brought a good point

two good points. One is defensive structure, you know, how do going back to even when the Bucks took care of Kansas City to obviously this weekend, Ohio State first, Michigan? What what? What the What is the major benefit of being stout up front of having big, ugly guys that are throwing your plus pounds that can clog up running lanes?

What does that give you, That gives you ability to play too high defense, That gives you the ability to to give some some uh some protection over the top, some safeties over the top, and you know you always Ohio State got their numbers, Like the receivers had yards, they had receptions. That that's great, but I didn't see the explosive place. Like if if one team is more exposed than the other, which would you kind of bet it would probably be go Ohio State. They're the passing team.

They're gonna be able to throw the ball vertically down the field and they can get those forty fifty yard chunks. If you want to win big time football games and if you want to win tough games on the road or against a good defense, it's kind of like what I said, first Georgia versus Tennessee a few weeks ago, you gotta get explosive place. Tennessee was not able to get exposive place. First Georgia, they struggled. Ohio State was not able to get explosive place. Versus Michigan, they struggled.

On offense. They got yards, they moved the ball in the red zone, but they couldn't score it as hard as an offense to move down the football fell, especially if you want to be a past first offense and not get chunk plays in order to have success and to get seven points on the board. So great job by Michigan Ben, but don't break, keep everything in front of him, tack a well, and then make some big plays on the back end when those plays presented themselves.

That's first and then second, this is gonna be one of my snaps, So it's kind of an early snap for the end of the show. Okay, okay. Mobile quarterbacks in today's game, especially in the college game, if you don't have one, you're doing it wrong. Let's look at the top four teams right now in college football. Georgia Stetson Bennett mobile quarterback, mobile corp In outside the pocket

can beat you with his legs easily. Michigan mobile quarterback TCU mobile quarterback USC My goodness, did he not win the Heisman this weekend? And just his swagger and energy from Caleb Williams and his ability to run around and make people look stupid mobile quarterback. And then obviously you know Bryce Young lest year at Alabama mobile quarterback. If you don't have a guy like that, and I'm not asking for a Kyler Murray. I'm not asking for Lamar Jackson.

I'm asking someone that could could could buy time in the pocket, can move in out and outside, can can escape, to be able to create those exposed plays down the field, which we've seen from these quarterbacks a year and a year out throughout the season. You have to have one of those guys. Ohio State has not had that in two years, and they've kind of run into a roadblock against Michigan. I think a little bit, like I love c J. C is gonna be a great pro quarterback,

but I think we're starting to see Ryan Day. You may need to get someone a little bit more like the Justin Fields of the world in order to kind of maybe get to that next step and win a national championship. Yeah, and look, Aaron can say this. Remember dual threat quarterback coming out of high school rushed for seven touchdowns his senior year Georgia. How about that, dude?

And yes, the quabus is a mobile quarterback as a summer calling that in a question in the in the in the chat, uh watch the film, So so okay, let's want the film. Yes, So where was there was there was a comment. Okay, here he goes from Andy J. At the end of the day, this game proves old school football still works, just like Georgia surpassing Alabama. Um, look, I do think there is barrett to this idea, right. I mean, a lot of what you see in the NFL is football that if you saw it in the

college level, we would describe as more old school. A lot of times pro style and old school can kind of be used a bit interchangeably. I think that the issue here is that it is well, look, I think you've gained some value in a day and age or maybe about everybody is going a bit more finesse and a bit more spread if you get bigger, stronger, tougher. I think you gained some value from like kind of zigging everybody zagging. But ultimately I do think it's just

harder to pull off. I think that old school or more pro style offense is more talent dependent than some of these schemes that you see on the college level, which just produced numbers no matter what. Only the problem is if you don't run in and and it like it allows you to maybe make up for not having a great offensive line make up for some deficiencies elsewhere. But yeah, ultimately, if you can recruit like Georgia has, and if you can recruit like Michigan has, and yeah,

maybe you can create that. Um it's old school success. Well, the spread offense a lot of times and and a lot of these r p o s. It's it's just it's numbers. Like if you're a quarterback, if you can count to six or seven, seven, you're gonna have success. You get to line scrimmage, you say, okay, four defensive lineman four, two linebackers in the box. That's six. I got five offensive lineman plus a tight end. That's six

for six. I got my running back. Let's run the football. Okay, you want to rotate the safety, you want to bring a nickel off the edge, swoom, I'll pick it up. You've got an extra defender in the box, I'll throw the football. It just it makes it really easy on a quarterback with with these defenses and the skizing and the speed and the coverages and the blitz is to take that off the quarterback and say, hey, all we need you to do is just count the box. If

it's a lightbox, will run it. If it's a heavy box, We'll have some past combination on top of that for you to go out there and get easy completions. So I think that's why you're seeing it more and more and more and more. Use the speed, use the ability to go off tempo, and then use plain numbers to have success on offense. People are going to gravitate towards that. Uh. And plus it just produces a lot of points. No one wants to be what we've seen from like Kentucky

this year, the super exactly lethargic uh boring old school offense. Uh. Because you're not gonna get recruits like that either. If I'm a receiver, if I'm a quarterback, if I'm running back and I watched Tennessee, if I watch Ohio State, Uh. If I watch usc Um Alabama and then I go watch Kentucky in Michigan, I'm like, why the hell if I'm a quarterback, do I want to go play there when I can go score fifty points over here? Yeah?

I mean, well, man, uh Like like Andy Jay says, he says, agreed with being y'all saying just saying that there's uh more than one way to win and yeah, and you're kind of seeing this throughout football. I mean the NFL right now is having sort of a weird defensive resurgence where even though all rule changes for the past decade and a half have been in favor of the offense, like all of a sudden, offenses are starting to sputter a bit and scoring down and people are

having to run the ball more. And if you ever have played a video game that you really loved, like being like a war zone of Fortnite, Legal Legends whatever, they always talk about the meta, right, and uh, that's kind of the overall Okay, what strategies everybody trying to emulate, And we appear to be maybe heading out of a bit on the NFL level, out of a bit of an offensive meta into more defensively focused one. And I'll

be interest in see if college football echoes that. But either way, UM, an incredible job by Michigan beating Ohow States second in a row. Big Tin Chips, Now, Brom, I wanna welcome you into the conversation here because you you keep throwing out a lot of not even subtle, but a lot of Ryan Day shots. Um, I don't think that Ohio State band should be panicking. I don't think, Oh, how State band should be panicking on Ryan Day. This is what his fifth loss as Ohio States head coach? UH?

Is it just the producer in you or door? Do you have legitimate takes and feelings on why I have State fans should be a bit upset with Ryan Day. I was rum there brom Night might not be there.

I think the first is brom is dealing with a lot of construction and his UH office area right now, so I think he's gonna be a little bit to no. I I listen, I'll answer this like, I think there's frustration because for for so long, and I pulled up the Michigan record, Yeah, not even that, but just Michigan for two thousand six, Michigan wonder Rooyd Carr went eleven and two. Since that season, they've had ten seasons where they didn't get to double digit wins. So Michigan has

been irrelevant for for for since two thousand seven. Really of being in contention to really push Ohio State consistently. So you've been the big bully. You've dominated them year after year after year. It's a great rivalry game, but like you've been kicking their ass and all of a sudden, you know your counterpart has figured it out. They're now winning twelve games in the season. They're having success, and

it's not only you're not. You just can't roll into this rivalry game end of the season and just think it's go. It's on that w anymore. Like this ain't the Michigan of two thousand eight or two thousand and eight to two thousand twenty. Like the past two years coach Hardball has put on the field a top five team. So I think it's Ohio State fans, you just need to take a step back and say, Okay, it's not Maybe it's not an US thing, and maybe there's a little bit us, but I do think it's more of

a them thing. I think it's more of Michigan has arrived to the party and they got some dudes, and they got some coaches, and they're ready to compete with you. That's it. So simber down the Ryan Day. He's a great coach. They'll be fine. They gotta go in the they gotta get more physical. They do need to get in the portal. They do need to recruit some big guys up front to be able to match that size and strain for Michigan. But this is more of hey boys,

this game every year it ain't no cakewalk. And next year it's in Michigan and JJ's back and hardballs back you. You don't want to lose three in a row. You don't want and and and oos losing a lot of talent. They got a lot of talent replace Um. Yeah, it's wait where where where was the comment here? This Brandon Southern Ones? Oh Jay Boogie must be yes, we should be concerned with Ryan Day. We looked like a pack

twelve school out there. Uh here, here, here, here's the deal. Though, I would say to hi, any Ohio State fans panicking, I certainly understand the disappointment since Rye Day showed up on campus. You have had overwhelming offensive production, you have had overwhelming winning, You've had multiple Big Tin titles, you've had multiple playoff appearances. Unfortunately, at a school like a house state, you are judged by national championships and you

don't have that national championship. But at the end of day, it didn't matter because, like Aaron said, Michigan wasn't challenging you. You were all good. You're still gonna cruise the big tent every year and you're gonna get another shot each and every year. Well, now you're realizing, oh no, that road may be a bit tougher, Like I I may actually have to overcome one and then with usc another and maybe even two or three. I mean, you got Luke Fickle going to Wisconsin now, Like, maybe I'm gonna

have to overcome some of these guys. But in the end, I think that works. In the House States favor Aaron, there's a lot of talk about like softness, it seems soft this or that. Well, I mean, I suppose so, but maybe that's also a bit because every single week they just beat the ship out of everybody. But by thirty, like I think losing a couple of these games and needed to kind of do some real intense self evaluation. Okay,

where are we going wrong? How is this happening? It might be the best thing long term for Ohio State. And if Jim Harbaugh can come back from where he was in twenty twenty and twenty nineteen where everybody was ready to run him in the Michigan administration said look, this is just a crazy use of resources to run him, Like we're not gonna do that. We believe we're gonna stay with him if he can come back. It's it's well within believe that Ryan Day and Ohio State back.

So it sounds odd, by the end of the day, Michigan's rise may actually benefit Ohio State because the whole iron Sharper's iron, Like that's an eternal human truth. Competition, if you live in America, you're a capitalist. Competition brings out the best in all of us. And and this will help to make Ohio State better now that they feel like they just can't sleepwalk their way to the playoff every single year. It's it's uh, we talk about entitled Alabama fans. It's just a titled Ohio State fans.

Like they're they're not used to someone coming in there and and stealing their toys. It's like, my son, for goodness sakes, right at the part this morning, some kids comes up and steals his little lawnmower. He starts throwing a little temper tantrum about the hit a kid in the face, like you gotta learn to share, you gotta learn to play nice. You have to learn that maybe

you're not the biggest, beddest and effort out there. It's Okay, breathe, relax, you're with the classic errand don't be a little bitch. Go get I uh I get it. You want to go get that damn toy. Go get it. Get bigger than hum realized that he's like, looks like a left guard, and he's bigger than most kids his age, So they just go get it from if you want it, don't

be scared. Look if he looks like he's gonna be alignment and not a quarterback, much like me and my father, just just remind him nobody touches the ball more than the center. Okay, that's my old man told me. I was like, hey, you know what that plays. I need the ball in my hands. I'm like, MJ, give me the rock, let me shine, all right. So I think

that's all on Michigan, Ohio State. Great job by Michigan for sure, going to the playoffs, and now of a sudden feels like, I know, we clowned them all year long for not playing anybody. But the clowning will officially stop now because they look like they can compute with anybody. I saw people saying this. I think this is stupid, because one win doesn't make you the best team in the country. But there are some people saying, oh, well, now,

now Michigan has the best win in America. Now the you know, Georgia being Oregon at Georgia b in Tennessee don't look as good because of those teams losing and now Michigan, Michigan should be one. No no, no, no, no no, no no. Just because you had one great win, shut up and crap rest of the season does not make you now the number one team in the country like they should and will continue to be too unless Georgia loses ll shoot this weekend. Let's calm down with that.

Yeah exactly. I think that it doesn't matter because after Georgia loses, then it will just be a question of whether or not Georgia is still four to the three loss. Hey, Aaron Murray, who was the last three loss SEC champion Okay l s U in two thousand and one, beat the number two ranked Tennessee volunteers who were gotta who were going to go to a national championship in the

Rose Bowl had they one? And none other than a chubby twelve year old tea Bob Baby and his grandfather were there at the game, cheering so hard that Tennessee fans through beer on us from above us as my Cajun grandfather and all these Tennessee fans one of the best memories of my entire life. Can't wait to do it again this weekend with a brand new baby in my hand. All right, I will say something going back to this, who should be one? Who should be tuesby? If?

If I've said this before, but just reiterating it right now. If TCU was Oklahoma or Texas, Yeah, they would be the number two team in the country right now. I had a Michigan regardless of even after this rol, their resume is far superior weekend and week out to what Michigan has done winning two games this year. Yeah, um, all right, here we go. Spokemon, so says team up two has one ruined our program? Why? Yeah? Yeah they diverged there. All right, let's talk about Okay, let's stick

with a big ten. Actually today I love it. Ton of big ten news over the weekend, some hires being made, the big ones, Matt Rule to Nebraska and then really so like that talk has been how horny were you for that on Saturday when that came? I mean just trying to tell you I tried to tell you the rouf the fixer. Okay, you need your situation fixed, you go to Matt rule. If you need your ship or fixed, you go to a plumber. Like these are just basic

life equation. Nebraska has been awful. They need to be good again. Higher Matt rule. And you may say, oh, but he felt so hard in Carolina. Well, first off, I don't think failure is getting paid forty million dollars not to work. Okay, let's be clear about that. But I do get what you're saying. On the field, Yes,

they failed, but here's the deal it is. It has proven if you were a good college coach and you fail in the NFL and you go back to college, you do well there again, right, look at Steve Spurrier, look at Nick Saban. Now I do see that Matt rules resume is maybe a bit compact, like there's not a ton to draw from, so you are still taking a bit of risk. But I don't really think Nebraska is in a situation where like who were they gonna get? They weren't gonna get a look fickle like like who

who is the reskanna get? That was better? Or more perfectly, yeah, Nebraska, they could have done. The two sides needed one another, and it would appear from a resume standpoint that they are both perfect for one another, both coming off of incredible disappointments when that Rule finally achieving his NFL dream only to flame out wildly, and then from Nebraska getting Scott Frost, who looked on paper like the most perfect

higher ever, only for that to flame out drastically. But now these two sides come together, and I think it's going to be huge. I look, you know me, I believe in the potential Nebraska because they got money, they got cultish buy in, and now I think they have a guy with a process who has done it before. But by far the more surprising news was Luke Fickle

to Wisconsin. I know many people kind of had Jim leonard Um written in there, but but the bigger part to me is like Luke Fickle turned down what like USC last year. I believe Um there was talking think that Florida try to get him as well, Like he has had some majorly top ten attractive jobs in the country that have come calling for him before and he said no, only to now say yes too. Whiskey a hell of a get for the Badgers, which one was the better higher in the Big ten air uh, I

will say I think Nebraska was the better higher. I love both. I think both are I think I think for the the fact of I think Wisconsin was the better job. Like I think the the the You know, if you're a coach and you're kind of picking between the two, I would lean towards going to Wisconsin. I think there's better resources. I think there's more frutile ground to to go recruit. Um, so there's a lot I would say more positives there Wisconsin compared to the middle

of nowhere Nebraska. So for Nebraska to get I think an extremely quality coach that has proven himself that that has shown that they can rebuild a program and and get them off the ground and and and get them being essentially extremely competitive, I think what they got with that role is exactly that. So I would say hell yet to nebroun here for for being able to hire him.

But I love Luke Fickle like I've I've I've I've covered Cincinnati probably five times in the past five years and had an opportunity to sit down and talk with him and pick his brain about coaching and and really get to see what he's done to take that program to where they are. To take a program like Cincinnati take them to the playoffs as a group of five team. The only coach I ever do that. Um hell of a hire for them too. So it's it's it's a

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the West coast all these other stuff. Uh But still I don't know, man. Uh yeah, so maybe like maybe it's that you want to live. Yeah, maybe country that you want to and Wisconsin now, Wisconsin, I believe. We took to Bill Binner of The Sporting News today and he said Wisconsin has won more games in the playoff era than any other school without making a playoff game. Of course, Fickle took Cincinnati a playoff like you just

alluded to. So he's landing in a better spot. Um, then it may seem to a lot of people, especially who have I don't know, if you haven't watched college football for like the past ten years or whatever, it hasn't been a couple of good years for Wisconsin. But it is the hell of a challenge, right, Like it's an it's interesting timing for Fickle where he joined, Like, yeah, if he had joined a couple of years ago, would it felt like, Okay, all you really need to do

is get through Ohio State. Well, now you have to get through Michigan and Ohio State, oh and then Lincoln Riley and USC are gonna be joining here in a couple of years as well. So I mean, it's it's it's a huge win for the conference in my opinion. But like, I wonder what the ceiling is with Wisconsin at Pickle and I wonder where the expectations are, Like is is he gonna be expected to do what Bielmo

was doing? And you know when the Big ten West threatened for Big ten championships or is it national championship or bus for loose fickle And if that is the expectation, can you win a national championship at Wisconsin when UH, Michigan and Ohio State are at the places that they are as a program, Well, I think I think the first thing before you you get to the expansion, before you get to uh US, USC and u C joined the conference, like there there's no reason And I would

think in a lot of Wisconsin people's minds when you look at the West right now and you see Perdue is representing the Big ten West in in in in that conference chamuhichip game this weekend, that hey man, let's at least just get that hurdle, like, can we get to we bring him in? Can we just win the West next year? Can we even put ourselves in the conversation of competing with the Ohio State or Michigan to take this conference and then we'll continue to grow from there.

So I love the higher. The higher makes sense. He's a guy, he's a Midwest guy recruiting wise. Um, like I said, it's a great spot to recruit too. He knows the type of kids that would want to go to Wisconsin. Um, I think to me, you put a guy like him there as as the head coach of Wisconsin, there's no doubt in my mind that they'll compete to be in that conference championship next year one. He's a great coach and too the Big ten West as just

as we've seen this year pretty pretty damn bad. J wildly says Wisconsin better win the West now before USC and u c l A coming to the big tent. Well, let's be clear, though, I mean, I get what USC and Lincoln Riley have done here is very impressive year number one, But I'm not immediately just gonna score uh USC and U c l A above a Luke Fickle Wisconsin, like, I think they'll be very good. I I just I'm just saying that. I'm also not gonna put Luke Fick

in Wisconsin on Michigan and Ohio states level quite yet. Uh, Aaron, do you think there's a situation where Luke Fickle lost Sauce Garner and like whatever, it was like four or five other NFL guys off that Cincinnati team, and he was just like, dude, I'm tired, Like I'm tired, like like I like, I finally got all these NFL guys somehow to come to Cincinnati. We get to the playoff, and even he's been good this year nine and three

just loss on Saturday, but they've been very good. They've been saw they were ranked for much of the year. But it feels like he it feels like this is almost him, like tacitly admitting like, Okay, I think I I think I hit my ceiling in Cincinnati. Well, you can make a case of this season is just as impressive as last year. I mean, you look at the roster they had last season and it was stacked, just stacked. So you know, can you be a group of five

football team like Cincinnati? Um? Have that much success, have that many guys go to the NFL and our ball in the NFL and then be able to be a competitive football team again the next season. And let's just look at their losses. They lost to Arkansas at Arkansas first game in the season thirty one four one score game. They lost at UCF, a very good UCF team, one close game, and then they lost to the Converence champion or possibly Converence champion in two lane twenty four. Every

loss has been within one score. Their nine in three have a chance to win. Take It's like for what he lost, I could easily make a case and just did make a case that this year was just as impressive as what he did last year leading that team to to the playoff. Berth uh Brom, it looks like you're back. You want to get too STIPs and staffs. But first from uh we we asked you earlier, but I think you're there. Why what? What's wrong with Ryan Day? Why do you think O House State fans should be

concerned with Ryan Day? Oh? You lost two times to your rival and have blown having an NFL caliber Christian you know can't win the big one triple? You know buddy, I love a good can't win the big one? When did he win the Big ten? Like four or five years in a row? But I feel you like that is the thing you know, says yeah, yeah, that's right. Long time now Yeah, Now you gotta do the day count thing right where you add up the actual days.

I mean, I don't know, it's been like seven hundred forty six days since the last time they'd been Michigan. Like that's uh, we only want to play. Oh there

you go, dude, Uh no, I do Okay. So people were saying, you know, maybe get urban out of the booth and back on the sideline you know here Exactually, if you if you look at the stats, Um, when Ohio State became the overwhelming offensive force that we think of it now, it was like when Ryan Day got there, like J. T. Barrett who we thought was awesome through for twenty four touchdowns that year that we thought he was awesome. Now how state quarterbacks so for forty and

fifty every single year, Um, we have gone long. Imagine that without the predictatorial oversight of Ryan Brumley. Um, we need to get the steps to STAPs. Oh I want to make fun of Auburn though, because just just make fun of Auburn. Make it a snip, make it a snif the sun rises in the east, it sets in the west, and Auburn is a toxic civil war once again, Like, stop me if you heard this one before. Auburn's going through a coaching search and a civil war has erupted.

As uh. Once Lane said no to stay at all, miss you had the very predictable reaction of a lot of people are like, well, good, I don't want Lane anyway. I don't really think he would have fit. And then Auburn's plan I know, dude, that Will Harry video is so freaking dumb. Uh, but there's been a lot of that right, like Lane would not fit in the and then plan B Hugh Freeze from Liberty, of course, somebody

who's want a lot of good football games. But imagine this controversy erupted among the fan base when it was announced we're gonna hire you Freeze. Who could have seen it coming? The head coach of Liberty. I can't believe it. Aaron, you're shaking your head. Which part of this are you shaking your head at? You? You're in a position to hire I think two very very very good coaches and either one can can turn your program around in a year.

And you're just just bitching. Hment just hired Cadillac, just hired Cateacy Lack. Is is you want Lack, the fans want Lack, you can probably get him little bit cheaper to the fans do not want Lack, Dude, the fans they want Lacks would be curious if they actually committed to so. I don't think so this is how This is how I have you head coaches? This how have you head coaches their CEOs, their motivators is why I think, This is why I think Dion would would be a

successful head coach somewhere. I give an opportunity at a at a Parrify school. You don't need to be an exit and those guy you don't need to be Lane Kiffin. Yeah he does different. He knows a lot about on defense. But you don't need to necessarily do that if you can hire good O C d C. But if you can motivate a team, which Lack has shown that he can, and recruit and then hand and and go raise money and go help with n I L anyway you can,

that's all you need to do. You don't need to go out there and deal with the X and knows. I don't disagree because either these are the exact same arguments that we had um when a case is being built for at Ozeron to get the head coach at l Shoe job and it worked, wonders there. I mean it, It wasn't The original hiring process was not flawed. It was maybe just how Coacho handled these success of putting you together that fifteen and no season, um and everything

that happened there after. They end up being the downfall there. But I do think that Auburn fans would not be happy to lack now maybe it want to be the drama. But like to say, here, if you cannot you cannot give offer lack of dion st on the board. The problem is Auburn fans, thanks to you Er Murray, have been sitting here sniffing their own farts. But how they're a top ten job and you know, last four coaches Brian Harson have coached or played for national championships and

now they can't even get a coach. Lane said no, he said, I don't want it's two to I don't want any piece that I'm staying in Ox. They're gonna pay me nine millions BS drama. He's chilling. He's chilling just like we said him might. And then now you got who Freeze, who definitely wants to be there. If only you could have avoided DMan a a young woman who was part of a sexual assault case against the president of his university in the middle of the case,

you can't help himself. And that's the funniest part about this is you have all these Auburn fans talking about how like, Okay, there's that Will Harring video who's a former Auburn linebacker, and he does his whole video based on what you know, the great integrity a few Freeze And I want to be clear, every personal I've interaction I've had with you Freeze has been awesome. He was coaching all miss bag today. When I was being recruited,

he was so kind and so nice. He's a very good recruiter in terms like he remembered you and your family. When I saw him years later, his exact same thing.

I have never had a negative person interaction Man. Unfortunately, his actions outside of whatever interactions I've had with him, would not speak to stuff like integrity necessarily, so to watch all these Auburn fans, But like these Auburn fans want to act like Lane's a bad guy and Hugh Freeze is a good guy just because Hugh Freeze evangelizes.

And I think that's a little absurd, because because because Lane did and said no, it's like it's like, oh, I didn't like her anyways, I didn't want to take her out to dinner. I don't want her to be my girlfriend. No, she didn't want you, And now you're making some sort of excuse, like I guarantee right now, both guys walked into Auburn's front office today and said give me the job. Every fan and their mother would say,

we want Lane, Kiffn. You're just saw they're doing the middle gymnastics of well, Lane is not an Auburn man anyway. And it's like, okay, so wait, wait, So you don't like Lane because he has consensual relationships and maybe like a co editor or younger woman or something. But like, because Hugh Freeze professes Bible versus, he gets to sleep with prostitutes on the company's phone, And I have no problem with sex working. Okay, I have no problem with

prostitutes whatsoever. Okay, in fact, I think it should be legalized, right, I think it should be legalized. So it's like, so everybody has protected in the deal and you can have rights as workers and everything. Like I have no moral or ethical problem with literally the oldest profession in the world. But the problem is when you say one thing and you do another. That's the disconnect. And that is quite literally like, you can haven't hegridy and and sleep with prostitutes?

If you say that you do, that's the whole point of integrity. Are you the person that you claim to be? And that's the problem with you, Freeze, is that it just feels like there's a bit of a disconnect there. And he has a track record where there's not just one or two, but there's like three or four things that would maybe speak to that. All right, snips and snaps. Snips and snaps? Uh, is that your first snip? I'll give you a snap. Yes, you're snipping on alright, all right,

let me get my first snip. I'm gonna snip the A C C. Man. You gotta bury that conference, Just bury the C C A C C. Georgia beat Georgia. Tech. That's one win for the SEC. South Carolina be hold on, hold on you, you and your show who runs the state tweet? Get the hell out here? Could that be any more forced? This sitting here runs the snap. This is my this is my snap, te ub all right, So let's let's calm down over here. All right? So where was I? So? Georgia beats Georgia Tech, Clemson loses

South Carolina, Kentucky beats Louisville. That's three uh they won the Big Three and then four the loss to four States, So three and one SEC taking down the a SEC a CEC not gonna make the playoffs this year, so big snip to that so called conference. But it's basketball season. It's okay. But then I think North Carolina lost this weekend a couple of times ago. It's been in a couple of weeks from fans. Uh, hey the coxman, that's my snap? How about it? Beamer ball? The best two

back to back wins of program history. Remember weeks ago we begged the Cocks to keep Clemson from this stolen valor playoff and freaking I'll be damned is Spencer Rattler and the Cocks didn't get it done this weekend. But also Aaron, yes, I am snipping your tweet about let's prove who runs Georgia like anybody's I said we run this state because we run this state. If Co tweeted pepsi, let's prove who runs soda? Pepsi crazy? Maybe like Cope and Arcicola, like when we are time, Like like Georgia

Tech is it now? I like the Willie fred Hire if it goes through, but Georgia Tech is irrelevant? Uh my, my next snip. Uh and he just got snipped along with me now getting stipped to after number two is now here? Uh? Texas A and M fires and and thank you to the chat for learning us on this one happened thirty or four minutes ago. M Football fires o C Darryl Dickey after five season with the Aggies. Uh so is it time for Jimbo to bring some

fresh blood? Finally? Is this the first move the first domino has fallen to bring in some new innovative o C to spruce things up there for the Aggies? Uh? Um, here it is the tweet from November twenty six. Let's show them yellow jacket emoji, who runs this state? Go down. I'm gonna snap Aaron's new baby Miles um and MoMA Shannon getting it done. Um and what I say, Shannon, Oh my god, you go you go for a nice she gets them. Okay, Oh all right, we gotta do

you have do you have? Do you have names picked out yet? I'm thinking maybe Camille? And if the boy will be Bobby Joe's favor of the fourth Quad, Bob A little queasy look QB baby. All right, we have to go look uh like uh and like the video. Subscribe to Volumes word du Channel. Thank you to FanDuel sign up a Vanduel Sports we Gap promo Coach Snaps. Please please please, if you listen to the podcast, rate it review, share it with your friends. Um. Huge, thank

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