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Colin Cowherd Podcast Prime Cuts - The Packers Secret To Success, The Bears Need A House Cleaning, Betting NFL Week 17

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Colin’s top takes of the week!

He starts by extending his sympathy to Caleb Williams who has obvious talent but can’t overcome the disaster that is the Chicago Bears franchise (3:45). He also argues that the NBA needs to make major changes in order to win back fans in an era of declining ratings (10:15).

Then he dives into the unique advantage the Green Bay Packers have by not having an owner and why that’s resulted in long term success and good decision making (11:15).

Then, Chad Millman, Chief Content Officer of the Action Network and host of “The Favorites” podcast, joins Colin for a round of “Sharp or Square,” to help provide Colin with the sharpest betting advice for week 17 of the NFL slate, plus the College Football Playoff

26:00- Blowouts in first round of College Football Playoff

28:15 - Broncos vs Bengals

30:30 - Saints vs Raiders

28:00 - Falcons vs Commanders

34:30 - Bills vs Jets

36:45 - Panthers vs Buccaneers 

39:00 - Ohio State vs Oregon

50:45 - Cardinals vs Rams

53:45 - Chad’s Biggest Whif/Hit Of The Year

57:15 - Chargers vs Patriots

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yards four times this season. That's more than Patrick Mahomes. That's remarkable. And tonight he had an interception for the first time and forever. Nobody could have succeeded with this team in this season. I mean, they're using a basically their third different person is sort of assembling the game plan this year. It's just a circus. It is an absolute circus. He's still the youngest quarterback in the NFC. He's got boundless talent. He made a couple of really

nice throws tonight. I mean Gino smith Is, I mean just a ham and egger. Caleb's got all sorts of talent. But there's just nothing you can do with this franchise. There's nothing I like about it. Like even bad franchises. Let's let's let's take a franchise, you know, like the Jets. They had Robert Sola for years, an excellent defensive coach. Joe Douglas whipped on a quarterback in a COVID year, But that roster is a bunch of Joe Douglas draft picks,

it's very good. He also went and got Davonte Adams before he got fired, and Deavante and Aaron are connecting. Take a franchise like the Carolina Panthers. They went out and got an excellent young offensive coach who looks like he has turned Bryce Young from a bust to a decent, mobile, athletic, accurate starter. There's nothing about the Bears outside of Caleb Williams.

I mean, it's I don't trust the ownership. You know, Kevin Warren, the president, has a reputation is more Paula Titians and football expert Ryan Poles, you know, I mean, listen, keep him fine, move off him fine. I don't think he's done a terrible job last year. Four picks. He took a punter. That's not what I would have done. They could have, you know, made more moves, eber flues.

Speaker 2

The staff.

Speaker 1

It's a mess. I mean, it's just nothing that's redeemable about the franchise outside of Caleb Williams and a couple of players Montes Sweat, Jalen Johnson, DJ Moore. You know, they've got a couple of players I like, But everybody in the NFL's got a couple of players. It's just nobody could have succeeded here. You know, tonight it was an unwatchable mess. And all the fears that Kayleb Williams had privately going to Chicago. I mean I reported this last year. I got pushedback on it, but people in

his camp were worried this franchise. I mean, look at Chicago's ports right now, White Sox, Blackhawks, Bears. I don't have any ability to decipher why not great ownership is a place to start, but I feel I feel sad for the kid because and you can see the talent. I mean you you would have to be trying to make an argument to say you can't see his talent. I mean last night or tonight was the first interception he's had in forever. I think it was like since Halloween.

And that's why this idea that you can just go out and get some you know, Ben Johnson and he's going to change the world. You know, that guy's never been a head coach at the high school level. There are so many hurdles to overcome in this organization. I don't think there's a good job right now in the NFL, I really don't. I don't think any of these jobs

are good. And if Oz Mike Frable, I'd sit it out for a year because I think next year you could possibly have the Cowboys, Bengals and Joe Burrow would be available. You know, there's a couple of opportunities out there next year. Keep your eye on. If Sean McDermott does not win in Buffalo, I think Sean McDermott, a

good coach, could be in trouble. So though, those are really good opportunities, and there's only been three great coaching opportunities in the last eight years, Green Bay Matt Lafleur, I think Mike McCarthy and Dallas and getting Justin Herbert with a Chargers. Those are really high end coaching opportunities. I wouldn't want the Chicago job, despite Caleb's talent. I

wouldn't want it. That's how bad it is. My other takeaway in this game, it's funny the number one position in the NFL over the last twenty years that has been the biggest bust rate in the first round is wide receiver, And obviously, you know wide receivers can make dynamic plays. But the Seahawks have Smith and Jigba first rounder, DK Metcalf, second rounder, a good tight end, and Noah Fant excellent running back Charboney who's their second back. But

equality Gino Smith can't play. You're eight, nine, nine and eight with Gino Smith. That's just what it is, you know, Roma Dunza, what can you do? They've been better off going out and getting an available offensive tackle. Instead, they went in later rounds and got some prospect I think from Yale, and you know, can he play? We'll see. You know, you look at the Chargers who are going to make the playoffs. They could have had a wide receiver. They looked at Brian Thomas. They went and got Joe

Alt from Notre Dame. They're going to make the playoffs. They have two of the best young tackles offensive tackles in the NFL. Yeah. I was just watching it tonight and I'm looking at all these first round wide receiver talents and DJ Moore and Roma Dunzae and DK Metcalf second rounder in Smith and Jigbin. What's it matter if you have a bad organization or like in Seattle, you have a mediocre quarterback and I like John Snyder as

general manager for the Seahawks. He's mostly not a good job, but I think he made a major mistake last year in the year before not afting a quarterback. And I said it at the time. I'm not you know, I'm not looking through the rear view mirror here. I said it. Last year. Seattle's roster is really solid d line, solid skilled positions, good corners, linebackers that are mobile and move. They're just mediocre quarterback. So it was a tough watch tonight.

And you know, I just Chicago fans al Michael's touched on this. I mean, they are being handed just tire fires and all their sports and come out tonight and pack that stadium. Is you know, it's a tip of the cap to one of the great American cities and sports cities because fans in that city are getting ripped off. The quality is awful. It's always been a very political city and it feels like the same with the Bears. It just feels like a kind of a political hot mess.

So again, I think my first choice would be vable. I don't know if he'd accept it. I have real reservations about all these hot shot offensive coordinators a year ago, Bobby Slowick Houston OC was a genius. Houston can't score this year. C J. Stroud has regressed badly. You know the Cliff Kingsbury, who I like a lot, but he struggled as a head coach college and Pro. You gotta be careful. I mean, there was a time when everybody

was bragging about Shane Waldron and rehabbing Geno Smith. Shane Waldron, you know, I don't even know where he's at now. He got booted out of the Bears organization. So I think, what a franchise is broken? You got to you got to get a culture changer. Dan Campbell, Detroit Harbaugh, Mike Framele. That's what it feels like to me. It's a mess. I've said before that I'm I'm willing to change my mind if I get no information. And I was thinking about watching the Packers tonight about I'll give you an

example of something I radically changed my mind on. So I would say, forty years ago, I liked the Olympics far more than the World Cup. And the reason was is at forty and forty five years ago and I'm, you know, fifteen years old, twenty years old, college student, high school student, and as somebody that absolutely loved sports. You didn't get three straight weeks of sports. You didn't

have this proliferation of regional networks and local networks. You know, when I was a kid growing up, fifteen years old, you got an NBC Baseball Game of the week. You know, I lived in around Seattle. I couldn't get Mariner games except on radio. You couldn't watch Mariner games. And you know, I was a kid from divorce. We didn't have the money to go to Mariner games. It was a two and a half hour drive. I lived on the beach in Westport, Washington, so you know, like once every five years,

i'd go to a Mariner game. So the Olympics, you know, for a sports obsessed fifteen and twenty year old, was three straight weeks of sports. It didn't matter that I didn't care about the sports at that point, I had never skied. It didn't matter. I'd watch the Winter Olympics. I wasn't in track, I didn't care. I watched the Summer Olympics. It didn't matter. I still don't care about Olympic sports, most of them. But it was three straight

weeks of sports. And then you have over the course of the last forty forty five years, this proliferation of cable and again all these networks. I can turn on my television any day of the week and get twenty games. I mean, you can fish around on a Tuesday and get you know, during the baseball season, I can watch every baseball team. So the Olympics now today don't feel as special to me because I didn't care about the

sports and the Olympics then or now. But the fact that you got three straight weeks of sports was really unique. Now it's not, And so now you could have the Olympics. I'll watch the opening ceremonies, maybe a couple events. I just don't care. But I love the World Cup. Some of that is I worked at two networks with World Cup and soccer analysts and experts, so I'm around more soccer people, and frankly, you know, four years, you know it's something new, it's something fresh. I mean, how many

NBA games, how many football games? Can I watch? The quality of soccer is great. I know more about soccer. It doesn't matter if it was the other place or Fox, I'll watch more soccer. A lot of my adult friends have given up baseball and they're more soccer friends fans on a Saturday morning, they'll watch English Premier League, you know, And I have a lot of friends like that. I've also gone to Europe more in my life, so I'm just more I'm just more into the World Cup than soccer.

I've totally changed my opinion on that. And this is where I get back to the Packers. I always thought not having an owner was a disadvantage to the Packers. Is that having a Stan cronkey who can literally as he's on the tarmac true story of flying out of the country can tell Sean McVay, all right, go for it, Go get Matt Stafford, Like you know, it's gonna be expensive. I'm gonna pay for Jared Goff in Detroit and Stafford in LA. Let's go for it. Big advantage. But I'm

watching the Packers tonight and think about this. Ten of thirty two teams in the NFL, thirty one percent of the NFL has five wins or fewer for a couple weeks to go. So the Saints have five and they'll lose tonight Carolina. The Jets in Chicago have four, four and eleven. Vegas Cleveland, Tennessee, Jacksonville and New England are three and twelve, and the Giants are two and thirteen. So that's ten of thirty two teams. That was only

five last year. It's doubled. That is a really really large bottom and unwatchable part of the NFL feels very much like the NBA. It really does. I mean thirty percent of the NBA or more as unwatchable. And I think there are two reasons for that number.

Speaker 2

One more and more.

Speaker 1

Because a rule changes and culture. Quarterback just means more. I mean, there's only one great quarterback in the NFL that's not going to make the playoffs. Joe Burrow, cheapest owner in the league, terrible defense, shaky o line, and he's still fighting for a playoff spot. They may make it. Statistically very little chance, but they may make it. He's the only great quarterback that won't make the playoffs. If you have one year in, if you have a good

rookie quarterback Jaden Daniels, bon Nix, you're in. Michael Pennix, my guess now is going to win the remaining games for Atlanta. They'll be in. If you just have a competent rookie quarterback, a Pennex down the stretch, Bononix, Jayden Daniels, You're in. So quarterbacks more important than ever. And number two is billionaire owners. Now the poorest owners a billionaire and it wasn't like that ten years ago. And billionaire

owners are less patient. Firing as staff and having to pay forty five million dollars is more of a rounding air. And so you have more chaos among coaching staffs and more chaos in the coaching community. So between it's more quarterback centric and more impulsive owners, you just have more hot messes in the NFL. And I'm watching tonight. I mean, I'm one of these guys that can sit down and

watch almost any NFL team. Giants unwatchable, Jacksonville, Tennessee, Cleveland, Vegas, hard to watch, Carolina with Bryce Young not can to watch it, a little, Jets, Aaron Rodgers. I'll watch Chicago, I'll watch Saints tonight, unwatchable. So it's just interesting. It's something I've really changed my mind on is that having an owner I always thought was a huge advantage, but I think Green Bay going forward having no owner because I now believe because of the impulsive nature of billionaires,

richer owners, less patient, more impulsive. There's only about four to five great owners. I think the Hunt family in Kansas City's excellent. Stan Kronkey with the Rams is really excellent. You know, Robert Kraft. People will argue he's frugal but pretty solid owner. But there's a lot of average to below average owners right now. There's more good quarterbacks and good coaches in the NFL than great owners. And I think going forward, you're allowed to be much more patient.

I mean you're allowed to sit Aaron Rodgers on the bench for three years and grow. You couldn't do that if you had an owner. No way you could have a first round quarterback and not rush him onto the field. The owner would be harping every year. There's no way you could have Jordan Love sit for three years as Aaron was getting prickly and high maintenance and passive, aggressive, and owner would have stepped in and said, ship him,

let's play the kid. Just why do you think Green Bay, more than any NFL franchise, can keep using this formula drafting you know, high end quarterbacks first round and not playing him for three years. Could not do that even with a good owner. You couldn't do it, there'd be too much pressure. I mean, I think you'd be surprised how often owners listen to sports talk and listen to fans. Gms are too busy to listen, so are coaches. Players

don't really care. Billionaire owners who have people under them want to get the temperature of fans. In the media, and I mean, there's no question that New York media is influenced. Woody Johnson influenced by the New York media firing Robert Sala and nobody everybody was banging on him. And if Woody Johnson's not listening, his kids are listening. We've heard stories about Woody Johnson's kids having influence. So I think it's a real advantage for green Bay going forward.

And I believe strongly in this, and I never used to think it is that as the wealth and the net worth has gone up ten times for owners, you don't have to worry about Brian guden Kunst, Mark Murphy. Who are they answering to the packers board And it's you know, not a lot of power there. So you know, I'm Washington green Bay, and I don't think it's a coincidence that they have been able with the last two star quarterbacks to just let them sit for three years.

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Speaker 1

All right, here we go another edition of Sharper Square Chad Milman. Cost to the favorites. I we'll have a couple of college games in here as well, because of I think some of the lines are work in our favor. By the way, I enjoy the college football playoff. You know, first rounds of the NCAA tournament. First rounds of the tournament aren't going to be great. I suspect I suspect going forward, the second round will be reseeded. That would be my guess. It will expand to fourteen or sixteen teams.

I think there's been a bit of an overreaction to the tournament.

Speaker 3

What say you, yeah, totally. I feel like two things out of this one. The first point you just made every year in March Madness, the first round has you know, sixteen fourteen blowouts and two great games, and then like but everyone remembers the great games. The argument will expand the field, and then all of a sudden you're gonna span the field and going to be a MAC team that ends up be upsetting a Big ten team at twelve to five scenario. You're going to have that in

college football one day. I don't worry about it. Also, two, you could have predicted before Tennessee played Ohio State, after Notre Dame had beat up on Indiana and after SMU was getting it handed to them by Penn State. I was in a tech chain with a bunch of IU buddies right and I was saying, you can guarantee right now next year over correction for SEC and strength of schedule, you get seven SEC teams. You'll get two Big ten teams chosen from Penn State, Michigan, Ohio State. You'll get

Clemson out of the ACC. You'll get who Cares out of the Big twelve, and you'll get Boise State, right because you won't get the at large team. You won't get the third Big Ten team because now the committee is too scared because of all these blowouts.

Speaker 4

So you're now you're gonna get just.

Speaker 3

The SEC and when those teams are blown out in the first round, then you expand and you're like, ask, We're just gonna let everybody in and hopefully we get some upsets sometime down the road.

Speaker 1

That's my take, all right, So we'll have some college football picks. We'll start with the NFL Broncos plus three and a half head coach Sean Payton with extra time. They played on Thursday. Cincinnati's defense is atrocious. I think people are overreacting to just how good Joe Burrow is. They can't stop people offensive coach extra time. Listen, they outplayed the Chargers for the first half, and you know, then Justin Herbert just did what great quarterbacks do. He

took the game over. This one jumped out to me as an overreaction. Broncos plus three and a half sharper square.

Speaker 3

So it's totally sharp. You nailed it about Joe Burrow. The Browns were in the Bengals backfield the entire game. Joe Burrow had no choice but to look brilliant and make brilliant plays like he's Superman because he was going to get sacked. He's purouetting into full on dives and throwing touchdown passes because his offensive line is so bad that he had no choice but to look like someone who everybody wants to bet on. Joe Burrow kind of holds the ball. That's kind of his mo. He wants

to throw the ball downfield. He wants to get it to Higgins, he wants to get it to Jamar Chase. I would want to do that too, So it's not entirely his fault. He's playing into what he thinks will get them the best opportunity to win. But the Broncos have as good a pass rush as Cleveland, and they don't have Dorian Thompson Robinson, who, by the way, almost got the Browns to cover that game. That's how bad

the Bengals defense is. So let me give you some stats about bow Knicks that should make you feel more comfortable about this, because I betted at three and a half bow nicks against bad defenses, so defense is below the fifty percent rashold the cross a variety of metrics in the NFL, of which the Bengals are won seven or zero straight up and against the spread, twenty nine

points per game, thirteen touchdowns, two interceptions. The Broncos are ranked as a better team than the Bengals across the board in all DVA metrics, like it's over inflation on the Broncos losing in prime time and the Bengals Joe Burrow looking like a superhero.

Speaker 1

Literally another game that jumped out to me. I don't like to bet, I don't like debt bad teams. But the Saints probably the worst humiliation in the league this year, a standalone Monday night football game didn't score and it almost looked like they quit. Now they're at home getting a point against the horrible Raiders team sharper square.

Speaker 4

I don't even know what to say, Colin.

Speaker 3

In all the years we've been doing this, I will come on this show, whether it was at ESPN or here, and try to get you'd have bet the ugliest team in the worst game, and you're like, no, not betting a game. I don't want to watch not betting a bad quarterback. I was going through my notes before we came on the show, and I was thinking, all right, what game am I going to get him to bet that He's like, I haven't asked about it. It was the Saints. I'm going to have to work on the

fly and think of a new game. Of course, we're betting the Saints here like they're getting They just got blown out in prime time humiliated Historically, Historically, you bet that team blindfolded. It doesn't matter that they're playing JV players, it doesn't matter who their quarterback is, they're at home, they're as as a dog. They just got blown out. Every sort of trend says you play that team. On the other side, the Raiders. Look, they beat up on

the Jags, but let's not be fooled. They had a ten game losing streak and the Jags kept turning the ball over. So I wouldn't be too anxious to bet on the Raiders as road favorites in this. But give me the Saints. Now, I gotta scramble and think of what my other game I'm going to try to get you to bed is well.

Speaker 1

I like the Falcons plus floor the Commanders, and the reason I like it is, I mean, Jaden Daniels was a hero at the end, but he just tried to give that thing away early. I think Michael Penix is really good. I think they have a good offensive line will hold the Commander's pass rush off. Four points is a lot. I do not. I think the Falcons are gonna be competitive. Listen, They're playing for a division title,

all right. This is a big game for them. So this is not like the Commander and the Commanders aren't going to get home field advantage. The Falcons can win home field advantage with these wins down the stretch. It just seems to me, again it wasn't that they just beat the Giants. It's not just that, but Pennix's accuracy. Greg Cosell talked about it this week. This kid has an arm I don't care if it's windy. I like the Falcons plus four sharper square totally sharp.

Speaker 3

Wise, guys, this down from four and a half to four. I'd be surprised if it isn't a three and a half or lower. By the game. A lot of the reasons you just indicated, Michael Penix had a lot of fans into the draft, A lot of professional betters don't forget. The draft has become a huge betting event. Professional betters are digging into game film from college the same way they're digging into game film on a week to week basis now because there's a money making opportunity. There's a market,

right Michael Penix is one of those guys. Not dissimilar from Jayden Daniels, not dissimilar from bow Nicks, not that dissimilar from Caleb Williams.

Speaker 4

A ton of film on the guy.

Speaker 3

He played a lot of college football, and some of the reasons why these guys who are coming in and having successes because they played so many games. We saw how accurate he could be. I love watching Penicks throw like I think his ball is so pretty. And also I don't think in a primetime game he is someone who would be by the lights the way other rookies might. He's played in massive games. Talk about college football National Championship.

That's a big game. I don't care if it's in college like that has huge steaks, So he's been in spots.

Speaker 4

He's older. I like it too.

Speaker 1

A couple of favorites that jump out to me. The Bills slip walked sleepwalk through their win over New England. So you get those when you're a dominant team. The Jets outplayed the Rams, had a horrible fourth quarter. Now you've got Aaron Rodgers is not sure he's coming back. There's more noise than ever. Aaron's had a good last six to eight weeks. But I think Buffalo is a significantly better team. Jetsro a little dinged up. Garrett Wilson

is unhappy with his targets. I think Buffalo flexes here. I think Buffalo also watch the Ravens and the Chiefs flex and play brilliantly. His favorites, there's a separation. You know, I don't like big favorites. I'm gonna take Buffalo minus eight and a half off all horrible winning performance Sharper square.

Speaker 4

So it's a little square.

Speaker 3

The numbers moved, you know, it's moved in the Jets direction. I can't fault you if you want to do this. Everything you just said is are all the reasons why I was on the Bills last week.

Speaker 4

I thought they'd want to flex.

Speaker 3

I thought they'd want to respond to Lamar Jackson throwing five touchdowns against the Giants and put Josh Allen back in the leadership position and get a stranglehold on that MVP. It didn't happen right Drake may was running, he was throwing accurately.

Speaker 4

Obviously different scenario. I lean into the Bills again. To be honest, I.

Speaker 3

Feel like everything you just said about the Jets is true, which is why I would want to back the Bills. Aaron Rodgers had been healthy for the past three weeks. He's now got a minor MCL issue on his knee. This team is a train wreck. I was all over the Jets last week. Whise guys were in the Jets last week. You cannot count in the Jets because the decision making of jeff Elbrick is so bad. He does not seem to understand the basic constructs of when to

go four and fourth down, situational play clock management. If the Jets kick a field goal, I'm fourth and four from the Rams twelve yard line. Last week, they're up twelve to six, and that's the ballgame. Like the Rams were not doing anything. Instead, he twice went fourth and fourth downs and that's basically when the Rams won the game. So it's hard to bet on the Jets because jeff Elbrick is just so bad.

Speaker 4

At this.

Speaker 1

One more NFL game. This line's moved back and forth. Panthers getting seven and a half division game at the Bucks. Tampa's the better team, but all make the argument in the last month. Bryce Young is playing like a number one pick and c. J. Stroud's playing like a number two pick. The Panthers can move the ball, They've got a good coach, they can move the ball. Tampa's dinged up. I think they'll win, but division game a hot quarterback, it kind of feels like an easy one.

Speaker 3

Sharper square, totally sharp. I haven't understood this line all week. The wise guys haven't either. It was at eight and a half, it went down to eight. Now it's at seven and a half because money has been coming under the Panthers. I think you're good until seven. You know, at seven you just sort of leave it alone. You want to get the hook off of that key number. A lot of games to end on seven. That's when we talk about key numbers, three, seven, those are the

biggest ones. What's interesting about this game is a month ago they played it in Carolina, Tampa was a six and a half point favorite on the road, one in overtime because Tuba Hubbard fumbled the ball in field goal range for the Bucks. Right, So now you take this game to Tampa. Tampa is only a point and a half better. When the line came out, went from six and a half to eight. Right, Normally home field is three points. What that's telling you is two things. One,

bookmakers have generally regraded the Panthers. They started off one and seven against the spread. Bryce Young was terrible. Professional betters had been betting, betting betting the Panthers. I'm sure listeners remember early in the year. I was all over the Panthers. Bryce Young two point zero is everything you just said. He's rolling out of the pocket using his legs, incredibly accurate, standing in the pocket, taking really hard hits.

He's been great. He's been a really good quarterback, much better than CJ. Stroud, Like you said, so, bookmakers have adjusted to that. To me, eight was still a little too high. Wise, guys agree, you're sharp. Take the Panthers a college football line.

Speaker 1

It jumps out to me. I don't believe you can win a national championship with a bad defense. That's why I think Texas and Ohio State probably play for the Natty, and I do think Georgia and Notre Dame are at least in play to play for the National Championship. Oregon's defense is bad. Boise State ran on it, Ohio State did whatever they wanted on it. Penn State did whatever they wanted against the Ducks. I'm trying to forget the Tennessee game because it was in Columbus, but Ohio State

has played in the Rose Bowl before. Whether it's not a factor. I said before the season, Oregon's gonna beat Ohio State at Otson. Ohio State will beat them in the rematch. It's under a field goal, I'd take the Buckeye sharper square.

Speaker 4

Yeah.

Speaker 3

Look, that's the sharp side right now, right and that's where the money is. And when you see money and sort of any platform you're looking at, you can usually get betting percentages and money percentages. Money right now is on Ohio State. And look, you wouldn't expect Ohio State, which locks to Michigan, lost to Oregon, has had a lot of drama questions about Ryan Day, the fact they beat up Tennessee the way they did. Oregon has been

out of the spotlight for a little bit. There's a lot of sentiment about the Buckeyes defense, like you just said, So that's the way the money has been going in this game. Look, it's fascinating. It's rare you're going to get the second ranked, third ranked whatever it is team to be the favorite over the number one ranked team. But that's the spot we're in because of everything you just said.

Speaker 1

All right, there's a game I want you to kind of explain to me. So the Cardinals are missing both their offensive tackles. They have nothing to play for. The Rams are on a heater. The line starts at like six, it's now six and a half. Arizona doesn't travel well, so from time to time the Rams can feel like a road team at home. This won't be one of these times. I get the better quarterback, the better coach. The Rams now are completely healthy. I feel like they're

better than the line. That Jets game was built for them to lose early game, cold weather, good defense, and they played a brilliant fourth quarter. I feel like it's six to six and a half. I have to bet the Rams. I know it's divisional Sharper square. If I like the Rams.

Speaker 3

Well, it's totally sharp if you like the Rams. But this is sort of the nuance of the betting business is getting the best of the number. This game on Sunday Night opened Rams at minus four. So I'll do the favorites with professional better Simon Hunter on Sunday night on the Volume podcast network.

Speaker 4

We'll do it go on air at seven thirty. We'll do it live.

Speaker 3

We're off air before the Sunday Night GEME. The timing is relevant here because we will preview the games that we like the most first glance, you know, gut instinct, not having done any research for the following week. This game stood out immediately we started talking about the Rams minus four. Why is this number solo? The Rams just got out of a trap game against the Jets and they won. The week before, they got lucky, the Niners dropped a couple interceptions. They beat the Niners in a monsoon.

Now they're going home, chance to clinch the division against a team that is down. James Connor injured. We saw him practicing but still limping. Offensive linemen injured. Not a very good defense. A coach who doesn't know how to keep his team up yet. The way they say Sean McVay would, or even Mike McCarthy did with the Cowboys against the Bucks. The number during that show went from four to four and a half to five to five and a half. Thirty minutes, it moved a point and

a half. By Monday morning it was six. And so when you're talking about why isn't it sharp to bet the Rams now, because the wise guy's been betting it since it was at four, four and a half, five, five and a half, and a little bit at six until it got to six and a half. It got to seven, and wise guys started betting the Cardinals at seven.

Speaker 4

Again, the Rams are the right side, but if you.

Speaker 3

Want to win as a better long term then you have to have enough discipline to choose the best of the number and then walk away. If you don't feel like you're getting it. You could still bet the Rams at six and a half. You'll probably end up winning, but it's not going to be a sharp side at six and a half.

Speaker 1

All right, I gotta tell you I've had a lousy year betting, but so far I've got seven of eight division winners. I picked a surprise playoff team every year. It was the Washington Commanders team that will double the Vegas win total. It was the Denver Broncos. I said this on the air today on TV on FS one. There's the old saying with kids, the days are long, but the years fly by, and I feel like with the NFL week to week it's crazy, but over the

course of a season, it's very predictable. So I've had a terrible year betting because I tend to take underdogs and value. You know, I'm always seeking value over favorites, but a lot of favorites. Of one is I'm trying to think. I missed badly on the Jacksonville Jaguars badly, but I'm proudest on my commander's pick. If I said to you, give me your width and the one you'll plant the flag and as you're really proud of this year.

Speaker 3

Oh it's it's interesting. The Width started as the Panthers just because I loved him. I just thought this team, this coach, this quarterback, this offensive line. More than anything, I just thought they were going to be much much better. It ended up being a w because they started off so badly and I lost so much on them early in the year. I'll take a little bit credit that they got better, and so I'm glad about that.

Speaker 4

To me, the.

Speaker 3

One I'm most proud of is the Chargers. I love Jim Harbaugh and we didn't even talk about that game. I think he's a football savant and I think that what he did against the Broncos is the exact reason why his teams turn around so quickly no matter the talent level. He knows the rules, he knows strategy, he knows clock management so well. What he did at the end of that first half against Sean Payton, who's a brilliant coach, was a masterclass.

Speaker 1

Right.

Speaker 4

He takes the time out so they have to punt.

Speaker 3

The punk leads to the roughing the returner, the personal file that leads to the free kick, that leads to the Chargers having momentum and they win that game going away. That's good decision making, and you don't see That's what you don't see from Jeff Albrook. It's what you're not seeing from Jared Mao, like you see the difference there. So to me, I'm most proud of the Chargers because I thought they'd be good this year and I played

it that way. By the way, I'll also tell you that the bet that I always love the most, which I'm still in play for. I always do sort of a round robin on the teams that are at twelve to one or shorter to win the Super Bowl, and I will bet them in Super Bowl matchups because you can usually get those at like between twenty and thirty five to one. So you bet the Chiefs and the Lions, you bet the Chiefs and the Eagles, you bet the

Ravens and the Lions. You bet the Ravens and the Eagles, and you bet the Bills and et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. I'm still alive with that. Even with the Bengals, I'm alive with that if they make the playoffs. So I always like that bet and feel good now that the Chiefs and the Ravens at least are two of the teams that I most heavily favored at the beginning of the year, along with the Eagles and the Lions, and I feel good that those matchups are still in play.

Speaker 1

Chargers minus four at New England. As long as we're talking about Harbaugh tend to like teams favored. JK. Dobbins should play Gus edwards out which side of a leen?

Speaker 3

Oh, I totally lean Chargers, And this is a walking into a hornet's nest. Like in any other year you mentioned the favorites. Right, in any other year, we're playing the Patriots. Here, we're playing a team that's out of it at home more than a field goal underdog, a team traveling that's fighting to make the playoffs. Every trend will tell you against the spread. In this scenario, the underdog is the right play. But for what we just

talked about, I think Harbaugh's a brilliant coach. I think that teams are making more aggressive decisions so they're scoring more points. I think that the fact that the most teams are starting field position at the thirty yard line is getting them closer to scoring in the other side of the field and making them more comfortable on fourth and four from the forty going forward instead of kicking a field goal.

Speaker 4

And so I think that's one of the reasons why.

Speaker 3

We're seeing underdogs lose so much this year and favorites win is there's more opportunity for them to score at a higher rate in bigger chunks, and it's impacting betting, like betters are not having a great year. You know, Favorites have gone seventy one percent straight up this year, just winning straight up. That's the most profitable season since two thy thirteen, teams getting over sixty percent at the spread. So we talk about fading the public. We want to

be contrarian because the public doesn't know anything. Teams getting over sixty percent of the spread, covering fifty six percent this year against the spread, home underdogs forty three percent against the spread this year. That'll be the third least profitable season since nineteen ninety. So for people like you, people like me, I want to fade the public. I want to bet home underdogs. That's usually where the value is. It's been a rough go of it.

Speaker 1

Man Chad Melman, co host of The Favorites.

Speaker 4

Good luck, Buddy, good luck to all of us.

Speaker 1

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