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Colin Cowherd Podcast Prime Cuts - Rams Making A Comeback? Lamar Jackson “Best Football Player On The Planet”, Russ Outplays Aaron, Betting NFL Week 8

Oct 26, 20241 hr 12 min
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Colin’s top takes of the week!

He starts with the Rams beating the Vikings on MNF and explains why the Rams are still very much in contention in the NFC West and why they shouldn’t be looking to shop Matthew Stafford and Cooper Kupp (3:00).

Then, he tips his cap to Kyler Murray and Justin Herbert for “pulling their franchises uphill” (11:30) and to Lamar Jackson for being the “best football player on the planet” (15:45).

He also points out that despite his ups and downs in recent years, Russell Wilson has still played better than Aaron Rodgers (26:00)

Next up, John Middlekauff stops by to break down a dominating win for the Kansas City Chiefs over the San Francisco 49ers (34:00) and debate whether the Houston Texans and Green Bay Packers are Super Bowl contenders… or a year away (44:30)

Finally, Chad Millman, Chief Content Officer of the Action Network, joins Colin for a round of “Sharp or Square,” to help provide Colin with the sharpest betting advice for week 8 of the NFL season!

58:30- Cardinals vs Dolphins

01:01:30 - Colts vs Texans

01:04:45- Seahawks vs Bills

01:07:00 - Bears vs Commanders

01:09:30 - Eagles vs Bengals 

01:17:00 - 49ers vs Cowboys

01:19:30 - Giants vs Steelers 

01:22:00 - Jets vs Patriots

01:24:00- Ravens vs Browns

01:26:15 - Packers vs Jaguars

01:26:45 - Lions vs Titans

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Time today. What time is it? Game Time? First of all, this week, they rumors came out that Cooper Cup and Matt Stafford were on the trade block. Cooper Cup, I believe you see how often they targeted Puka Nakua. He's their future. Cooper Cup's good, but he's brittle. He struggles. He's like an old NBA player. He struggles on like back to back games on turf. You know, he's a guy. Ideally for him and his body, you'd play him about

ten weeks a year. But for a good team, like a Pittsburgh team that's playing well, Now you get a third fourth round pick for Cooper Cup. With Pickens on the sideline routes, you'd have a real team. You know he would be a boost. But for the Rams, you know they're going to extract everything they can the rest of the year. I don't know if they'll move him. I think the Rams. I said this today on FS one. There's no question in that division. San Francisco is not

as good as they were. Nobody's gonna trust Gino Smith in Seattle. Arizona can be great and awful in the same game. The Rams are now three and four. Remember last year slow start, they won seven of their last eight, got into the playoffs, and they they were a play away from beating Detroit. So this idea of trading Cooper Cup, I get it because of Poka Nakua, and I did not expect Poka Naku would have played tonight. That's why I had the vikings and the under on the Rams.

I didn't think Pooka n Aku was gonna play. And you know, he's just total game changer. It's it's he's not justin Jefferson great, but he's a He's a ten target, eight catch guy weekly basis for ninety five to one hundred and fifteen yards. He's just a special player. Fifth round or two. But the Matt Stafford trade rumors are just don't make any sense to me. He's got this year and next year under contract, then they can walk away. But there's just not There's nobody in the next two

college drafts that is close to this. And Sean McVay almost walked away from the NFL a couple of years ago to take an Amazon job as a broadcaster. He didn't want to start over with some you know, half of these first round quarterbacks don't make it this coming up draft, you know, I mean, I can see the Rams in the third or fourth round taking Riley Leonard out of Notre Dame, sitting them behind Stafford for a year or two. But if you're not getting Shader Sanders.

I don't see anybody in this quarterback draft that's going to play immediately and excel at the NFL level.

Speaker 2

I just don't.

Speaker 1

And that's what my couple sources who I've talked about in the executive suites in the NFL tell me. It's just this last draft was great quarterback draft. Next two are just okay. So I mean Stafford four touchdowns, twenty three to thirty two, nine different receivers, twenty seven first downs. They're not getting rid of him. And I said this last year and I'll say it again. They need a

number one corner. The Rams doing the draft, they need a draft a sideline receiver, a speed receiver, and they need another offensive tackle and probably another safety for depth. But they're not that far away. If they hit, they have a first and two thirds. If they hit on those picks, team could win the Super Bowl. I don't think they were a super Bowl team this year at three and four, but Minnesota is a good team and the Rams controlled that second half. So I just I

just don't. I don't buy in the I don't buy into Matt Stafford's moving and I've said this before. Just think about Aaron Rodgers. So Matt Stafford was a much better high school player than Aaron Rodgers, and a much better college player than Aaron Rodgers, and was better than Aaron Rodgers their first four years in the league. And then you know, Aaron's with the Packers, Stafford's with the you know, bankrupt Lions, and you know Stafford struggles to

win in the same division. Rogers is, you know, out of this world. For green Band deserves all the credit. But what happens if Stafford the next two years makes the makes the Rams a viable super Bowl team. It's not unheard of San Francisco's peak. We don't trust Philadelphia's coach. The Lions are the best team. But in a big spot, Dan Campbell, Jared goff or mcvaghan, Stafford with no Aiden Hutchison,

that that game gets a lot closer. So I just look at it and I think, to my elf, Stafford's here, load up on draft picks the next two years, try to have some hits. You know, the Rams defense is so young that they can spend some money in free agency. This year, they're not spending anything on defense. I mean, those guys are all free they're cheap. They got a lot of second, third, fourth, fifth rounders all over that defense. They're not paying anybody right now now that Aaron Donald's gone.

As far as the Vikings go, you know, Sam Donald was fine outplayed in the second half. But it really is interesting. So you know, we all kind of picked, you know, Detroit green Bay to be the best in the division, and then the Bears and the Vikings to round it out. And I had said if the Vikings finished fourth, it's the most talented offensive fourth place team in the history of the NFL. They're not going to finish fourth, I think, But I do think, and they've

got winnable games coming up. You know, they've got Titans, Jags, Colts, Arizona, Bears twice, Seattle. You know, Vikings are a good team. But I do think Detroit's kind of better roster and is a better team. And you saw it last week when they played. And I think Green Bay is so young, we're not seeing the best version of green Bay. I think over the next eight weeks, Packers are just going to get better and better and better better, And I wouldn't be shocked if they got to a Super Bowl.

I don't see him as a super Bowl winning team this year, but it wouldn't shock me. They're so young. Every time you watch green Bay they look better. And that's the advantage of having a bunch of twenty four year olds and twenty five year olds who are just into their prime. Detroit's a little older, more seasoned, and that's why I like Detroit if they met in like like a playoff game. But you know, what do you

do with Stafford? So my guess is if the Vikings end up being a good team winning ten games, but they finish third because the Vikings, you know, I don't think they're Detroit or green Bay at their best. And remember the Vikings may have just lost their left tackle for some time. Cross your fingers on that. But Donald will have a market. I mean the last several years. Think about the quarterbacks who have had a market, Old Brady,

Matt Stafford, Russell Wilson, Aaron Rodgers, Kirk Cousins. Donald will have a market. Now, somebody may overpay for him. You're not going to get this Donald, He's not going to have this left tackle justin Jefferson, this coach you know, probably Jordan Addison, TJ. Hawkins, And you're not getting that Donald, But I think he'll be somewhere between the mess in New York and the Vikings. And he's a really coachable,

likable kid. But you see it to night when you put him on the field with Stafford, Stafford is the better quarterback. I mean, Stafford's got nine different receivers, his pre snap stuff. I mean, the guy is just Matt is just insanely gifted. But he has you know, he didn't have a brand. He doesn't give a rip. He just loves football as family and that's you know, he's not controversial. He doesn't talk about conspiracy theories. He's just not who he is.

Speaker 2

Man.

Speaker 1

He's just a good old Texas Southern guy loves football and family and keeps it quiet. But Donald will have a market, and I think JJ McCarthy, who had a great preseason, is kind of their future. And I think, you know, if Donald gets the ten wins, ten to eleven wins, that's a second third round, PA, I don't think you're going to get a first for him. But Donald will have a market. But they didn't draft JJ McCarthy to move off him, so but I did think

tonight when you see Donald and he's not reckless. He's gotten the reckless out of him. But when you see him on the same field with like a golf last week or a Matt Stafford this week, he just doesn't feel quite that. And I think Kevin O'Connell, who's a quarterback coach, I think a lot of people like Sam Darnold. But to give a guy a bag, you have to love your quarterback, and so he'll have a market. I think the Vikings will pull back a little, but again

they're both the Rams schedule and the Viking schedule. There's a lot of wins. The other thing on the Rams tonight they got Pooka Cooper cut back, but the interior of their offensive line they're still missing two starters. So this Rams team, which has a young, young, aggressive, talented defense and a really good offensive line top five or six in the league when healthy. So the Rams now are starting to get healthy. Pookah a surprise starter tonight, big,

big production. Just to give you a sense of how valuable Poka Nikua is, and I didn't think he'd played tonight. The Rams have won eight of the last nine games. Puka Nicua has played the only loss overtime loss on the road to Baltimore, and with that win, the San Francisco forty nine Ers are now in last place in the NFC West. The Chargers lose to Arizona seventeen fifteen. What you were watching are the two best quarterbacks in the league who have never had any support.

Speaker 2

Now.

Speaker 1

James Connor is really a substantial running back for the Arizona Cardinals, who won on a walk off field goal. So he's got something. But Arizona's got the worst owner in the league. They flushed out the front office. They have another young coach. Cross your fingers on that. This offensive line's a better version of the awful ones they've mostly had. Kyler Murray has just this is why I support him. He's had complete utter dysfunction as entire career

nerves on it. But it could be worse for Justin Herbert, who tonight had no run game, patchwork offensive line. Will Disley at tight end was his go to receiver. What a disaster. I mean, Herbert was just manufacturing offense. At one point he had a fifteen play drive, you know, accounted for almost four hundred yards, and I mean it

is just four yards here, six yards there. No run game, nine yard completion Justin Herbert with a minute fifty four left, gave them a fifteen to fourteen lead five field goals. They've got no playmakers. I mean, when Brock Purty isn't good in the red zone and you still have playmakers, it's one thing. They don't have. Any of the Chargers they got nothing. So Keenan Allen and Mike Williams they got. They shed those contracts and they drafted Lad McConkey from Georgia,

who's a nice rookie. Slot had a couple decent catches, but they just don't have any players. And JK. Dobbins behind that offensive line, no run game. But this isn't the thing. You have to contextualize it. If you put Kyder Murray with San Francisco's talent the last four years or Herbert with San Francisco's talent, I think they have a trophy and Herbert I think is more popular because he's been less controversial. But they just I mean, you saw Kyder's

forty four yard touchdown run. Herbert just methodically marching his team down behind a battle line with no run game. He has to throw Everybody in Arizona knows it. These guys are those are really good NFL quarterbacks. They haven't had the best owners, the best front offices, the best support staffs, the best offensive lines. And that's why I support Herbert and Kyler Murray. I mean, I love Jared Goff, but Detroit has two legit backs, the best offensive line,

a deep threat, a clever offensive coordinator. Sam Laporta. I mean, it's an embarrassment of riches. And Jared's very good. I'm a Jared Goff stand but he's got I mean, he's got a convertible. I have it in Malibu on an eighty two degree summer day. It is good living if you're the quarterback of the Detroit Lions. So as Arizona wins that game, there are really weird franchise. I've said they're kind of a lesser Buffalo Bills. I'm never quite sure what I get half to half with Arizona or

game to game with them. But I will say people can be critical of Kyler Murray. Take him out of this operation, and what do you have, Carolina.

Speaker 2

That's what you have.

Speaker 1

A kooky, impulsive ownership situation, and I think I think the Chargers have a chance to make the playoffs. I think the wildcard situation in the AFC is incredibly weak. The Jets we kind of like, and they're two and five, so like Pittsburgh looks like to me, Pittsburgh's not as good as Baltimore. I don't care what records are, and we'll get to Baltimore in a second. But I think the Chargers will eventually find their way once the offensive

line gets healthier. I think they'll kind of figure out their way to get to nine wins and that'll get you, I mean, two US coming back. We'll see what Miami is. But I was actually impressed with both Herbert and Kyler Murray tonight so much. You know, I've said this before. It's one thing if you're a trust fund kid, but if you have had to fight through obstacles and turbulence your entire life and you never end up making any money, but you raise a great family, you're a great dad,

that's incredibly impressive to me. Some guys, it's not fair. They are just pulling franchises uphill from the minute they step into this league. And that is justin Herbert and that is Kyler Murray pulling their franchises uphill. So Baltimore really hammers Tampa forty one thirty one, not indicative of what it really was. Lamar Jackson's gonna win MVP. Lamar Jackson right now is the best football player on the planet, not Patrick Mahomes. Patrick Mahomes the best quarterback. Lamar is

the best all player on Monday Night Football. He has twenty touchdowns and no picks tonight, five touchdowns, no picks. The thing about Lamar Jackson that I was really noticing tonight, they finally have given him Zayflowers. They finally have weapons for him. I don't know if anybody sees the field. And I thought about this watching Lamar a lot of times with young quarterbacks that justin fields, or Zach Wilson, you know, they have gifts, they move well, they have

good arms, but they just don't see the field. Is it anxiety, is the fear of getting hit where they get they get tunnel vision, whatever it is. The ability for Lamar Jackson to sit in the pocket and be able to see sideline to sideline. It's like he's always throwing the ball to the right person. You get all the upside and really very little downside.

Speaker 2

And you know.

Speaker 1

He has I don't know how it ended. At one point he had eighteen touchdown passes without a pick. You know, there was this for years. I mean when he came into the league, I didn't know what he was gonna be. I mean I had no idea. I mean I watched him play at Louisville in college and I'm like, I don't think this is gonna work. I didn't think Dak Prescott was gonna work. By the way, Dak Prescott fell to the fourth round, So everybody in the league question

whether it was gonna work. But you know, NFL GM's miss on quarterbacks all the time. What you have to be able to do is acknowledge when you make a mistake and go, yeah, this guy can play. So it was very obvious. By the middle of a second year, You're like, this guy's you know, he's two three touchdowns game. He has developed into such an extraordinary pocket passer, and I think a lot of it is his He has no fear in the pocket. I mean he got hammered. He doesn't get hammered as much as he used to.

He got hammered tonight two or three times. A couple of helmet on helmets He's a totally fearless player, completely utterly fearless player. And he's not he doesn't have a dad bod, he's not thick. He just doesn't care. And then you add Derrick Henry to it. Did you notice that Troy Aikman shot tonight at the Dallas Cowboys when he said, you know, there's a lot of teams could have used Derrick Henry and Joe Buck said anybody in particular.

That's the difference in the Baltimore front office and the Dallas Cowboy Jerry Jones led front office, Dereck Henry was out there for eight million bucks, and Baltimore's like, yeah, we're gonna, We're gonna do that. I'll continue to say that Kansas City's the best team in the league, But who's playing the best football? And I think it's Baltimore. I just I mean it's they reeled off at one point twenty seven straight points and Tampa's good team. Now again,

Mike Evans got hurt that that that was tough. Baker Mayfield to a really bad pick into the end zone that kind of started the avalanche. And you know, it's like Brock Purty throwing three picks against Kansas City, or Baker mayfield a big pick in the end zone against Baltimore, then the Avalanche starts and then there's no going back on that. But I there's not a player on the planet, including Patrick Mahomes, that I enjoy watching play more than

Lamar Jackson. And you watch him on the sidelines. They should just write a book on how to act as a star quarterback. He's such an adult, he's such a grown up, so humble. He's on the sidelines and you know he's asking players how you doing, And you know he's not over there gloating or he's just such a team guy.

Speaker 2

I just love him.

Speaker 1

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So the Steelers beat the Jets thirty seven to fifteen it is the most points the Steelers have scored since twenty twenty one, and the Jets have now surrendered sixty points since Robert Sala, the best coach on their staff, was fired. So I was just thinking about this, so I wrote down how every Jets game has gone blown out, ugly win, dominating win, New England, first team in the league, ugly loss, close loss, close loss, ugly loss. There are two and five football team and the Steelers are five

and two. And if you watch tonight the Steelers offense, I mean it may have been ugly for Russell Wilson in that first quarter, it was really ugly, but second half he was the better quarterback. So two takeaways. The Jets fired Robert Sala the defense in the last two games. I said it at the time, you just fired the best coach in your staff. The defense has not played up to a Robert Salas standard since he was fired.

That's what change does. So now Aaron is asked to be better than he was before when Sala was the coach because the defense isn't as good. So you got rid of the best coach on your staff. And yeah, I mean in the second half of that game, so I went, I was thinking about Russell Wilson because obviously I was a huge fan in Seattle. Then Denver was the Hacket year was a disaster, and the Sean Payton

ere it was fine. And then I went and looked at the numbers for Russell Wilson in Denver, and because Sean had such disdain for him, you know, there was this sense that Russell was terrible in Denver. No, the Broncos defense last year was awful. That's why it's so surprising that the Broncos defense this year so good. It's mostly the same players. What happened, I mean, the same guys. Basically, they didn't have many draft picks, right, they gave him up to get Russell Wilson, so they went and got

a kid from Utah defensive end. They just didn't have many picks onn't got a receiver or two. So Russell last year in Denver with Sean Payton and they didn't they didn't connect. But he won five games in a row in the middle of the season. He finished with a ninety eight passer rating, sixty six percent completion percentage, twenty six touchdowns, eight picks, and elusive not terrible it's above average. I mean, ninety eight passer rating is a

B to a B plus quarterback. The very few interceptions inaccurate. So as you were watching the second half to night, Russell was in total control. He was more athletic than Aaron Rodgers. He had two touchdowns, no interceptions. I thought he played an incredibly clean game through for two hundred and sixty plus yards. If you had told me before the night started, Russell Wilson would have outplayed Aaron Rodgers, I would have said, you're out of your mind. This

guy hasn't played in forever. He's coming off a really bumpy, ugly, bad pr year in Denver, and he out played him. And Pittsburgh ran the ball. You know, it's the Steelers. They're just going to kind of grind it and ugly it and they're probably going to end up winning nine to ten games. But Russell Wilson in the second half was better. And what's becoming increasingly clear, and this is not to take a shot, but Aaron is a completely

a pocket quarterback. Now he's Jared Golf, but Jared Goff is much more accurate with a much better offensive line. But he doesn't move Aaron doesn't move anymore. He has a lot of shuttle passes, a lot of quick passes. He didn't want to get hit, and he doesn't move. And just go look at how valuable Holmes movement was today, or Jordan Love's movement was today. Go look around the league in the morning. Trevor Lawrence moving, that's winning football games,

Josh Allen's movement today. Aaron is a pocket only quarterback with some flips, quick passes, didn't stay in the pocket very long the receiving course. Okay, now, Mike Williams even made a catch tonight, but Russell was the better quarterback and it was ugly early, but you got to get over first impressions. This is a two and five football team.

Thank god they played the Patriots again. They play the Jags later, So I mean, New York's got all sorts of opportunities, but we're gonna have to be totally honest here. Russell Wilson, with this defense and this culture and this head coach and this run game is going to end up having a better year than Aaron Rodgers with that interim coach and that crappy culture and that bad owner and a hit and misrun games, couldn't run the ball tonight. You know, it's funny Aaron and Russell Wilson. I can't

speak for Russell. I don't think Russell spent a lot of time thinking about Aaron Rodgers. But Aaron has never been a fan of Russell Wilson. You know, Aaron, I don't know if he's spiritual. I'm not sure if he's agnostic, but he's spiritual. Always kind of rolled his eyes at Russell Wilson. It was pretty understood in the league, So to lose to Russell Wilson is you know, it's just I would imagine kind of digs and Aaron Rodgers, but I don't think anybody could botch that game tonight and

be confused. Russell was much more under control, had a better run game, had a better coach. But that's part of it. So, you know, it's funny. When Russell first went to Pittsburgh, my take was, oh, it's a pretty good spot. It won't be a heavy lift for him. He's got pickings on the outside, got a couple of good backs, it's a good culture. And then you know he calf injury, loses his job to Justin Fields. You know, you just you're just tearing things that you know. Is

he a Steeler? I mean the press, the leaks, but you're watching him tonight, man, and I'm like, yeah, that's that's better than Justin Field's. He was more under control his cadence at the line of scrimmage. He was more under control. So we got to be fair about this stuff. What do he looked like in the first quarter and what he looked like in the second half two different things. And the Jets, I mean, I said going into the weekend it was one of my picks of the week.

Then the staff here at the volumes like, are you sure? My blazing five? Two wins, two losses and a push, But this was my second favorite moment of the week. I thought, Russell hasn't played, he's coming off a calf injury. The locker room kind of like Justin Fields, I mean, Big Ben is like you can't see him. There was literally nobody around the Steeler organization outside of it that thought it was a good move. There was nobody, I mean big Ben talk show hosts, I follow Pittsburgh media,

nobody liked the Russell Wilson move. And by the end of this game, you're like, of course, it felt like it was the right move. He was just I kind of just felt like he's been in so many games and so many standalone games, it wasn't too big for him. And you know, what a messy season for a franchise that cannot get out of its way. I mean, just think about this, go look at the green Bay Packers. Now.

Green Bay Packers are human. They've got a young quarterback, They've got incredible chemistry in that locker room with all those receivers and tight ends for the Packers. What a fun team to be part of. And it's now when you look at the Packers, how lucky are they to have moved on from the toxicity of Aaron. I'm being realistic. I mean, the Packers now are young. Generationally, everybody's on this same page. They're fun, They're just a fun team

to watch. They've got a really nice spirit in Green Bay and cranky, prickly Aaron goes to New York and it's just this divorce. You know that Brady Belichick divorce was really ugly, but the Aaron green Bay divorce, it's not good. It's the opposite of Brady. Brady won his divorce Aaron's losing his Green Bay young, fun, energetic, winning, New York mess, impulsive, grumpy god. I just cannot believe that I watched the night John Middlecoff, former NFL Scout

three and out podcast at the volume. Let's start, and we're gonna spend some time on Kansas City and San Francisco, both teams, you know, hemorrhaging wide receivers. And I thought, this is the real separator between Mahomes and a good quarterback. Mahomes had an ugly pick. Uh Brock had multiple picks. Brock had three, but there were three or four moments in this game, you know, the shotgun, fourth and one,

Mahomes running it in the thirty three yard run. And I felt in this game it'd be easy to pick on Brock Purty because they didn't play well. But Mahomes didn't play particularly well. But there is something to be said about being resourceful, which I think Andy Reid and the Chiefs have made a living on. They're still ham and egging this wide receiver Cort. Nobody's ever healthy.

Speaker 2

Today.

Speaker 1

PERTY had to deal with that. Deebo was sixth and I you had a big drop and you gets hurt. I Listen, they're going to pay brock Purty. We know they're gonna pay him, but in this moment, and again it's Mahomes, But I thought there was a separation kind of these three or four two or three magical moments, and it felt like Mahomes had all of them.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I mean, you can't really box course scout Mahomes this year. It's been pretty terrible. But half way through that game when they were you know, they didn't have a large lead, but it felt like they were in control of the game. If you just watch Mahomes always made big plays. Yes, And one thing they've done and this is where Veitch gets a ton of credit in Andy being boys with Spags and bringing him on board. They're a defensive team. Yeah, I mean that defense creates

havoc the pass rush. All the ads can cover that they can lose dB after dB and they get random guys making place so everyone's on the same page because the guy's blitzing NonStop. You've got to be able to cover. But yeah, I mean Mahomes just comes through that. They have a little magic with him and Andy in the

biggest spots. Yes, and they did benefit today from Purdy and Kyle just kind of they were a bad I mean, it was just it was the The Niners are awful in the red zone, Perdy, you cannot afford I think the question. I think there's a couple of different angles to this one. Why are we always in such a rush to pay guys that you don't know for sure?

Speaker 1

Yeah?

Speaker 2

Right, Like I got no problem paying Josh Allen after year three, paying Patrick Mahomes, even the Ravens, but it had with Lamar Jackson. I mean, yeah, Lamar Jackson's gonna go down. Besides, like ray Lewis like the second greatest player in the history of the franchise, He's not a free agent act. He's going into his fourth year. Let's take anat breath. If he keeps playing this shitty against good defenses, Minnesota, turn the ball over, tonight, turn the

ball over? Now there was one might not have been his fault, but the other, like, you just need some more plays. You can't go well all these injuries. Who are the Chiefs playing with? Just make a coup of plays. No one's saying you're Patrick Mahomes. But this was a pretty winnable game for the forty nine ers, was it?

Speaker 1

Not Yeah, and Bray Tom Brady said this. He said this twice with Purty two of the bigger pretty completions downfield. Both balls were under thrown.

Speaker 2

Well, one's a touchdown at the end of the game, there's eleven minutes to go and they're down what two points? Instead he ends up throwing the pick and the ends the game.

Speaker 1

Yeah, and so I again it's I like Brock, but you know, people struggle to contextualize things like I like Sam Donald, But this is a perfect situation, justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison, good run game, excellent protection, brilliant coach, top defensive coordinator. Donald is now playing better and he was really good today. We'll get to that in fifteen minutes. But it's a perfect situation for Sam Donald. Like he went from Adam Gase a terrible situation to a perfect

one and he's somewhere in between. This has always been between Shanahan Trent Williams.

Speaker 2

Kittle.

Speaker 1

So today, you know, to me, the whole game came down to the Brandon ik drop and that forces a punt McCole Hardman, big punt return. That was the game, Like that was the moment. Now, now who knows what happens. But once again San Francisco's special teams are a huge liability in a big game.

Speaker 2

Well, that's on the coach. Yeah, special teams coverage have been just horrendous since Kyle has been there. He does not care. I mean that's the only way you can sum up their special teams units. I'm not talking about kicking and punting. I mean they're on there, the third kicker in three weeks, but the actual coverage units, it's on the coach, Andy Reid, what does he do? Hied Dave Tobe Wiley considered the best special teams coach going back to Chicago with Devin Hester. See, I go even

further because it's twenty one to twelve. Cowing the kid from Arizona who can fly, smokes the corner who just comes in, and even Brady's like, listen, obviously you got to hit the pass, but you hit that in stride. He walks into the end zone. So then you're down just I mean, your field goal wins the game at that point, there's eleven minutes to go. Instead, he has to stop. He gets tackled. A couple of plays later, he throws a pick and he's not Mahomes or Josh

Allen as a deep ball thrower. But that wasn't the hardest deep ball to throw, Like you got to hit that in stride. But think of how the entire game is gone, no confidence, not playing well, doesn't have much cohesion with that player. It was just I just get back to this. If you have question marks about these quarterbacks and they have years to go on there, what's the difference between paying a guy fifty three million and

fifty eight million. It's gonna cost you more. Well, I mean, I'd rather know for sure, Like at the end of the day, the Cowboys they know exactly who Dak is, So why didn't you just pay him a year and a half ago. If you're gonna pay him, it does save you twenty thirty forever. Yeah, he's their guy. He wasn't gonna go anywhere. Not that you're kicking party to

the curb, but I'd never understand this rush. If we got questions, Let's just see this season play out, because when they play good defenses now Minnesota and Kansas City, like, you can't afford turnovers. You cannot afford turnovers, and this year Party the fumbles. Obviously the picks and big spots.

It just cannot happen if you can't overcome them with just incredible brilliance like Mahomes somehow is doing this year because he's turned the ball over a lot, Colm, but it hasn't seemed to matter.

Speaker 1

Well as as Brady pointed out during the game, there was a stat that first and second down, Mahomes is getting rid of the ball quickly. On third down he's holding it for three and a half seconds because he's trying to make big plays. But he realizes he can't do that all the time. And you know the other thing with Mahomes when he missed Worthy on that over the top throw, he overshot him. That's okay, Like he's not going to give you a chance to intercept the ball.

But there were I have like six different plays here. There's a flip by him, he throws against his body Travis Kelcey forhurst down. I have six. Maybe I've got sheet after sheet out or sheet of notes for this game. All six are Mahomes plays. Now that's not to say I mean, right now, Seattle's in first place in that division. But I said coming into the season, John, you can only be so old so long and Debo comes in sick,

you gets banged up. This this Niner team Detroit is like a younger version of the Niners, and younger players when they do get hurt, recover more quickly. And I kind of feel like the red zone issues are mostly Christian McCaffrey. But I kind of feel like watching Shanahan today today was a moment you're at home. Kansas City's vulnerable.

No Rashi Rice players go to and they use Mkole Hardman like he's a number one, And it's just I think that you have to look at the game as a Niner fan and go, We're not beating these guys unless we got to get more special at certain places. That's how I feel about it.

Speaker 2

Yeah, and for a large portion of the game, And this gets back to when they struggle is they couldn't run the ball. And when Kyle can't run the ball, his passing game is built off that he can't just drop back and throw consistently. He's not comfortable calling plays like that. In my one knock on him, as he is a really good coach and he's proven to be a brilliant play caller over the years. But I wouldn't call him the most adapt to the play caller. His

offense is his offense. It's very specific. You know, it's completely different. But like Mike Leech ran what Mike Leech tran, right, Kyle runs what he runs, and if he's gashing you in the run game, the passing game runs off that. He can't just go like he has to keep running the ball even when it's not working, because his passing plays are all bootlegs and everything off play action instead of just spreading it out and let pretty in college

and listen, I'm not acting. And one thing I've always pushed back against when people criticize he's not Josh Allen or Patrick Mahomes, but relative to the majority of guys, over the course of his career, he's been better than or equal to the Dacks, the Cousins, the gofs. But you have to rely on him sometimes, just spread it out if the run game's not working. And then you notice when they started getting back Mason started hitting some runs,

and that's when Kyle's feels the most comfortable. Andy Reid is a good example. Now he's much older and much more experienced. It doesn't matter if something's working, he can write it. If it's not working, they can adapt it. Kyle. It's very, very specific, and I just think that so dependent on the run game. Like I know, Pears all came back from getting shot. So it's hard to put. But he is a first rounder. Cowing is a talented player.

You got Kittle out there, Mason gets the ball, you can still throw the ball if the run games off. The Chiefs were lined up, I dare you to run the ball. We're gonna stop it, and through my majority of the game, they neutralized it.

Speaker 1

Green Bay beats Houston twenty four to twenty two. And here's why this game is important. I feel like they played each other. Green Bay is the Houston of the of the NFC. Houston is the Green Bay of the AFC. I think both through a year away. I love their rosters, I love their young coaches, and I love their cornerbacks. Jordan loves better than C. J. Stroud, in my opinion, moves better. Jordan's got some real farv He's gonna have bad picks, but god, he can really let it rip.

I really like wathing him play, But I feel like I watched the same team. Is that they're close right coach, right quarterback, right o line, nice weapons, not quite mature enough. There's somebody in the way, Detroit. There's somebody in the way, Kansas City. But there was an interesting moment in this game where late Houston Demico Ryans settled for a field goal and they didn't force Green Bay to burn timeouts. And I thought, well, Demiko's a defensive coach. You just

you got to bake that in. These guys aren't going to go for it. But as I watched this game, I thought, these guys are not good enough to hoist a trophy. But if you told me over the next four years, because the quarterbacks I think potentially with the right weapons are in that Jared Golfer slightly above that class. Green Bays now five and two, Houston five and two.

I felt like I'm watching two great franchises. After this year, they'll both be in the Super Ball bubble for about six straight years.

Speaker 2

I think Green Bay, if they get their shit together, could be a Super Bowl contender this year. And when I say that, I just mean their quarterback not throw awful interceptions. I mean he threw, he moves. He's like a mirror image of Aaron the mannerisms, the way he moves, the way his arm kind of hangs. But when the ball leaves his hands, it's like two thousand and two Brett Forth. It could be the most incredible touchdown you've see of the day, or it could be a pick

hitting the guy in stride. Where you go? Is this guy gonna go seventy yards the other way? I mean today he threw two picks, one got returned I think to the eleven yard line. They had a muffed punt that led to a fumble like that, I thought Green Bay. I mean the CJ's trout even throw for one hundred yards. No, they were not very good on offense, and two of their touchdowns, definitely one of them came on the muff punt, obviously mixing having him back Nico Collins, it turns out

as like they're Terrell Owens. You take him out of their offense, they kind of fall apart. But Demko's so good on offense or as a defensive coordinator, creates pressure and just creates some habit. They got to settle this guy down. That being Jordan Love in terms of even Laflora made a comment after the game about like you guys keep pushing this far of narrative. Well, yeah, he keeps throwing the ball to the other team, but he's remarkable and he's throwing three or four touchdowns every game.

And in your offense. Their offense, it doesn't have the name recognition of like Saint Brown, Montgomery, Gibbs, Laporta, but you watch them, you're like, that receiver's good. That receiver's good. Yeah, new tight end's good. You're like, I've known Josh Jacobs is good for a while. That their offensive weaponry. And think about this, Colin, They're not going to be intimidated by Detroit. They're going to know each other really well. It's kind of like a Niners rams from a couple

of years ago. So I I and honestly, I've always said this, They're actually better off not winning the division because the way they want to play on offense. Go into the dome. Okay, let's play a thirty five to thirty game, because you can't play that at Green Bay in the middle of January. Was always the downfall of Rogers teams. They have these great offenses and then they play some of these home games it's like no one can feel their hands That's why the Chiefs are like, yeah,

we can play a negative twenty. Now we only need eighteen points away the game. Yeah. And now I think their defense, this Halfley guy that they got from Boston College, it feels like he's kind of settling down. They look a lot better much, the team speeds better. He's blitzing at the right times. I mean, their defense has been pretty atrocious over the going back to McCarthy and then early on with you know, the Joe Barry run with Lafour. I'm not saying it's gonna like completely turn the corner,

but I feel a little more comfortable with it. I mean, today you hold CJ. Stroud, he still has take Dell out there, Diggs is out there mixing's back Shultz. I mean, they got enough firepower that he should be able to score for, you know, for over one hundred and fifty yards. And it was a beautiful day. It wasn't like twenty degrees at Green Bay. It looked like it was eighty degrees outside. Even the announcers like, this doesn't get any better.

Speaker 1

Than this, No, it's so a Jordan Love twenty four to thirty three, three tds, two picks, here's what I like about it. So, first of all, Dobbs had eight catches, wicks, three craft the tight ends excellent, eleven yards of catch. Jacob's out of the backfield had fives. Terrific player Christian Watson, I mean, I mean they And what's funny is none of these guys make a nickel. I mean they're not paying any of these guys for like four years.

Speaker 2

Yeah, to me, his interceptions, there was there was a play late in the game when they ended up kicking the game winning field goal. I think it was like less than thirty seconds left. He let it rip like forty yards down the field. Now, he overthrew the dB and the wide receiver, but it was like, what is going like, why are you making this throw?

Speaker 4

Right?

Speaker 2

Which he's I'm not a Packer fan, but he keeps you on the edge of your seat when you're watching them play. Remember that was he throw a late pick in the Niner game, Yes, you know, to end that game. That's the thing that makes me nervous. It's not like golf can't do that. But right now he's not really throwing the ball in harms way. Well, where Jordan Love is throwing the ball in harms way a lot. Well.

Speaker 1

I mean, to your point, the Texans on the road averaged three point four yards of play terrible on third down we're.

Speaker 2

Allowed they got they got a muff punt at the ten yard line. That was a need he was a free touchdown.

Speaker 1

I mean, the Texans threw for fifty five yards today and have a chance to win that game. So to your point is Love is going to keep I mean the text if you look at the box score, Texans should have been beat by three touchdowns and they lose twenty four to twenty two, and that I think that's a little bit of what Jordan Love gives you. It also Lafleur, to his credit, and I think an offensive coach is more willing to do this than Demko Ryans. He he lets him work his way through his mistakes,

Like Lafleur is like I got an artist here. I can't box him in. I gotta let him do some of his stuff.

Speaker 4

You know.

Speaker 1

One of the throws that Love likes to do and he it feels like they're almost all picked or all caught, is when he throws the rainbow ball when he's backing up and he holds it too long and he just throws a rainbow and I'm like, he's going to work himself out of that. That won't last. And because that, like he does that like four times a game.

Speaker 2

I give Lafour so much credit because a big reason they're five and two is they won the games with Malik Willis when he was gone. And now you feel like if they can just rain this guy in a little bit, and they did last year. Well sometimes and listen, I'm guilty of this. This guy has not played much football, right. I mean, you look at c. J. Stroud has been playing for two years. Ohio State comes right to the NFL, like he's been starting every year for five straight years

going back to high school. You look at some of these quarterbacks, the amount of snaps they've taken. Jordan Love just sat there for three years, and there gets to a point like obviously he needed to work on his fundamentals and everything as a project, but they gets a point where you're just not playing at all, and then he gets thrust into it. We saw last year it took him a little while. Then he gets injured this year, so maybe by the second half of the season they

can rain him in. I think their offense is like an unnamed I mean, the Packers fans know him, but just you know people that play fantasy, but they don't have like superstar name recognition. Yet some of these guys might turn into that by the end of the year. They might just be the same as the line just in terms of their firepower. And it's actually kind of different because of his deep ball ability. I mean, that guy at any moment can fling at fifty sixty yards.

Speaker 1

Absolutely listen, you think they're ready to win a Super Bowl? I think they're a year away.

Speaker 2

I really do. If I'm saying they're ready, I just think if they come in they do have the pieces that their defense is good, he plays well. If he's playing well, they could beat any team. Do you agree to that?

Speaker 1

Time for another edition of Sharp or Square? Chad Millman, CEO Action Network, I pushed at two to two and one. All of our odds provided by DraftKings. So I have been last couple of weeks I've been moving toward best quarterback. I do think defensive players statistically get hurt more than offensive players. Defenses can weaken and the quarterbacks separate. Coaching quarterbacks separate. This time every year. If you go look at the AFC, the best quarterbacks lead each division. Kirk

Cousins leads his. By the way, if you look at the quarterbacks playing best, I think eventually Jordan Love will lead his division. That's the time of the year we're in. So let me throw out a game that is fascinating, and this really highlights how important numbers are. So Historically, quarterbacks off concussions don't play their best the first week back. But Arizona Miami at three and a half, I'm out. But Arizona is the most inconsistent team in the league.

They often have the best quarters followed by the worst halves. If it's minus two and a half or minus three Miami. I like them because Arizona High Low Hilow just beat a team that I think is better than them, the Chargers and Hardball. So what I feel is like, oh, here they go short week Monday night, Here they go cross country, you lose it and prep. Here is Tua McDaniel played terribly with absolutely something to prove. They are going to flex at They're gonna keep starters into the

last play. That game interests me like Miami not only needs to win, they've been so bad for a month. They want to sell to that locker room. We are a great team. This is a new page and a new team. Forget the last month. Game fascinates me. I would take Miami minus three, but the hook because of concussions and the numbers behind those scare me. What are the sharps think on this.

Speaker 4

Now? It's like you are inside a professional better war room, because that is the exact conversation earlier this week, this line opened at three and a half. Arizona was the underdog. The professional betters at Arizona yep at three and a half. When it got to three and it even touch two and a half, professional betters started coming in on Miami and I apologize for people listening to my voice. It sounds worse than it is. Don't worry. I'm gonna be fine.

The point is Miami is the team professional betters are backing for every reason you just said. They believe Tua will make this team better. More importantly, they aren't believing in Kyler Murray as a consistent winning quarterback going cross country to play the Dolphins in a desperate, desperate situation. Wise, guys are on Miami. Yeah, desperate spot, you gotta.

Speaker 1

Win, and I really do believe Miami Mike McDaniels has to rebrand this team fast because they've been the worst team in the league for about a month and they have and also they're watching the Patriots fall apart and the Jets fall apart. So it's like, guys, let's see second place, first assignment Sunday, let me get Colin.

Speaker 4

Last week, I was saying in an airport and I was going over my notes for the favorites to the show, and I couldn't remember who was playing quarterback for the Miami Dolphins. And that's how off the radar there. I had to look up literally Miami Dolphins starting quarterback and you know what came up, Tua. Google didn't even know who the starting quarterback for Miami was. That's how sort of forgotten they've been. So you're one hundred percent right. They need to reframe who they are right now.

Speaker 1

Okay, Colts in a desperate spot plus five rival game at the Texans the Green Bay game, there was a little bit of a red flag on Houston. So CJ. Strouds in year two clearly needs Joe Mixon and Nico Collins to be completed, he's getting worse protection. If you watch the past attempts and you watch the coaching, they're getting a little conservative with him. It tells you that if they're not completely healthy, the staff doesn't necessarily trust him.

Speaker 4

Yet.

Speaker 1

Conversely, Jordan Love throws ugly picks, early, bat lefloor, doubles down, throw it more. They know they've got farv on their hands. Jordan Love is an aggressive thrower, and Lafleur totally backs in. But the way they're coaching, see Jay Stroud is telling me they're a little concerned with the elements around him and sometimes as a second year player, he needs though, he needs those the nicos, the Joe mixons to fortify his game. So I'm gonna take the Colts plus five.

It was six on DraftKings all or odds provided by DraftKings. Sharper Square.

Speaker 4

Yeah, it's totally sharp. In fact, it went from six and a half to six to five and a half to five. It's now at four and a half in some places. Wise, guys have been pounding the Colts. I'm gonna take your theory about better quarterback and expand it because that obviously isn't the case in this scenario. But I do think one of the reasons why the public has been winning so much in the past two weeks. The public meaning if there are more than fifty one percent of the bets on one side, that is a

public side. For the first five weeks of the year, the public was having its worst season in the twenty years we've been tracking this at Action Network. The past two weeks, the public is twenty two zero seven and one complete and total reversal. Obviously, Houston is going to be the public side here, but what normally happens is bad quarterbacks and bad teams with big numbers find a way to cover, and they haven't been. This is a situation where I'm extrapolating. I think it's more about good

coaching and dominant unit. So you have in the Colts the number one run blocking unit in the NFL. You may get Jonathan Taylor back, you practiced yesterday for the first time off of that high ankle spring. You've got it, a great play caller in Shane Steichen who last year almost got the coat of the Playoff with Gardner Minshew. And by the way, has this team at four and three and one game out of the first place in the AFC South behind the Texans, who they only lost

to by two points eReader this year. So that is why the Wise guys are coming in. One trend for you division favorites the past eight years forty six percent against the spread, So it's also a good spot.

Speaker 1

One more underdog Seattle plush three against the Bills. So, uh, Seattle. We haven't seen a lot of Seattle when they're healthy upfront defensively, but boy did Kirk Cousins see that last week. This is a really good defensive coach with some really tasty defensive personnel. They're also getting their top cornerback. When I look at Gino Smith, I look at two ways with time and a run game. He's highly effective when rushed sometimes on the road. He's not Buffalo is not

a team. Although I like them, I don't trust them. They're a much better version of Arizona and Seattle at home healthy a field goal. I this is hard for me to turn down at three and a half. It's one of the best bets of the week. At three, I'd roll with it. The Seahawks sharper square.

Speaker 4

So it's square. The Wise guys are on Buffalo, but I will tell you. I'm with you. I don't understand why they're on Buffalo. You know, we've talked about this before. We do a segment and our show called Sharp Calls on Tuesday, we talk about other games. By Thursday, when we do the next episode of the week. We've got feedback from a lot of professional betters with their opinions on what we talked about on Tuesday, and we will

review those on the show. Seattle Buffalo was one of the games that we loved on Tuesday, and on Thursday we were getting a lot of calls from professional betters, so that they weren't buying Seattle's defense. They weren't buying Gino Smith, and they liked Josh Allen and the year that he's having no interceptions hasn't thrown an interception in nine games, which is coming close to record breaking status, right.

But I am with you. Like the Bills beat up on bad teams, yes, and they may use or struggle against good teams. So if you're betting Seattle, then you are basically taking a stand that you think Seattle is a good team. And there is some evidence of that they have gotten healthier, but there's evidence that they're a bad team too, right, So I think that's what the wise guys are playing here at They just don't believe Seattle is a very good team yet.

Speaker 1

All right, all right, let's go to some favorites. Bears minus two and a half at the Commanders. Even if Jaden Daniels plays, he's not at one hundred percent, And you could you could clearly see with the Giants next week, if Jaden Daniels plays, gets dinged pass rush pretty good for Chicago, you could see them saying we're going to Mariota. We're going to go into divisional play. We got no interest.

I think the Bears defense, because we're so fixated on Caleb and he's by the way, he is building real rapport here with his offensive set. I think the Bears defense is pretty well coached. Again, it's a numbers game. I think if Jaden Daniels plays, it will be mass protection. It will be a game in which they coach him

more safely, they call a game differently. He's the difference in the franchise, and I think it's one of these games you look at and you think, listen, if we had to not play him, I mean, he hasn't practiced this week. Even if he practices Friday, you kind of wonder what you get. I like Chicago minus two and a half here a pretty strong play Sharper square.

Speaker 4

Yeah, that's the sharp side. And look, the betters are are almost literally banking on the idea that Jaden Daniels isn't going to play in this game because he hasn't practiced, and there is a there is a massive difference between Jaden Daniels and Marcus Marrioll. Yes, the Commanders have only punted twelve times this season. That's tied with the Chiefs for the fewest since nineteen fifty. They're perfect on fourth downs, They're fifty percent on third down conversions. That is because

of Jaden Daniels. That is because of the threat that he poses. That is because of what he can do as both a very accurate passer and a good runner. Without that, this is a different team. It stresses the defense, which isn't very good even from a statistical point of view, but they don't look as bad When Jayden Daniels is converting fourth downs and converting third towns. There's fewer up ortunities for the opposing offense to get on the field

and score points. Kayley Williams has been a brilliant quarterback the past four weeks, and by the way, in the second half, he's covering the spread at a rate that is only compared only matched by Patrick Mahomes right now. So this coming off of by this team in this spot, it is a really good time to bet the Bears at minus two and a half. The wise guys are with you.

Speaker 1

The Eagles are the only team in the league that hasn't scored in the first quarter, and that matters when they go on the road to face Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow when he doesn't have to throw but chooses to throw, is as good as any quarterback in this league. All quarterbacks when they're in a hole, face a different defensive.

Speaker 2

Test.

Speaker 1

Philadelphia, if they score, doesn't take big leagues. They're probably the most underachieved offense in the league based on personnel and productivity. So here's a team in Cincinnati which has shown an ability to start quickly. I think Philadelphia has got much better players, but at minus two and a half, basically season on the line, with Baltimore winning Pittsburgh winning,

this is the season for Cincinnati at home. I only give up two and a half against what I think is one of the more poorly coached teams in the league, yet one of the best rosters. I'll take the Bengals minus two and a half. Sharper square, totally sharp.

Speaker 4

The public is on the Eagles, and this line has moved up. That's called the reverse line move. When the line moves in the opposite direction of where the majority of the bets are. That tells you the professional betters are coming in on the side of the team that the line moved in the direction of. That is the Bengals open to two. It's now at two and a half. This is a bet on Joe Burrow. Yep, that's all like. He's twenty two two, six and one against the spread

when facing a team that just covered. Overall in his career, he's sixty three percent. He's seventy percent against teams that are over five hundred. The challenge here is everyone should be and has been, concerned about the Bengals defense. But two things. The Bengals defense has been really good defending against the long pass and explosive plays. That's the best way for the Eagles to win. We've seen it time and again. When they get the explosive plays, that's when

they can break it out. The rest of the time, their offense isn't very good. We even sought against the Giants last week. So the pros are with you. They are backing Joe Burrow.

Speaker 1

So you know. I love the number five. When a team is favored by four and a half to five, I feel like it's a graveyard for books that they don't want to go to the that number. But they're kind of trapped. So San Francisco's at home. Dallas has not matched up well against better teams. Now Deebo had pneumonia as a pro athlete, I think he's available Sunday. I think Jennings is available. Jordan Mason's the second leading rusher in the league. He's a more than capable backup.

Teams that are well coached with talent that deliver a stinker in the biggest TV game of the week always play. It's an easy team to coach hard. They will play a much better football game. They're limited. No Brandon Ayuk, no Christian They're limited. But I think they feel they not only lost to the Chiefs, they were kind of embarrassed. It was really a bad performance. I'm going to swallow the four and a half and take the Niners at home.

Speaker 4

Sharper Square, Well, you said something there that is a little bit too flip and dismissive. No Brandon Ayuk, no Christian McCaffrey. They might not have Deebo sam Will because the guy has pneumonia, like he was in the freaking hospital. If you look at Brock Perdy's production, a third of his production during the time he's been starting has been going to Christian McCaffrey and Brandon Aiyuk. If you include

Deebo Samuel, fifty percent going to those three guys. You take away those three guys, and you know what you get Brock Purdy and what he did against the Kansas City Chiefs. Like Ricky Pearsall is not Brandon I jo.

Speaker 1

I don't know if Rickey Pearsall can play right.

Speaker 4

Ronnie Bell is not Deebo Samuel. It doesn't matter how hard Kyle Shanahan coaches these guys this week. If they can't play, they can't play. So that's the real issue. It's why the wise guys took the Cowboys at six and a half, took them at five and a half took them at five down to four and a half. This thing's going to four. I would not be surprised if it's at three and a half by because the wise guy money is coming in on the Cowboys, and

that's Ethan. With all the chaos of Jerry Jones calling out Mike McCarthy, who he could have fired after the Packers blew out the Cowboys, and now he's upset with McCarthy's play calling. The Cowboys are still inside. By the way, McCarthy thirteen three and one off of the buy against the spread.

Speaker 2

Okay, so a game.

Speaker 1

I want your opinion on this. It seems easy. So when Malik Neighbors was out or Cavon Thibadeaux for the Giants, it sounds alarming. But the player that really decides the fate of this team is Andrew Thomas. When bad quarterbacks don't have a left tackle, they get hideous fast. The Giants are now last year's Giants, right. They competed without Malik with Dexter Lauren, they compete without Thibadeau. I don't think they're a competitive football team. So I get the

Steelers for the record. The second half against the Jets twenty four to nothing New York scott players. It was a little old Russell Wilson. He's now got a deep threat, a run game, Arthur Smith, he had protection moving well. We know the defense and motivations there. I know it doesn't feel sharp, but Pittsburgh minus six hosting a Giants team. Shane and Dable have been given assurance by the owner. You're not going anywhere. It's not a frenetic behind the

scenes thing. Neither wants Daniel Jones. I cannot bet Daniel Jones stand alone on the road without his left tackle. It feels like the minus six is sharp. Steelers Sharper square.

Speaker 4

It's eh, Like, no one's really interested in this game. If it wasn't a primetime game, it'd be the Core TV game because the Giants are that bad. And you're right about Andrew Thomas, like we've talked about this. When I'm handicapping and doing analysis, the first thing I'm looking at is the offensive line. One of the reasons I like the Bengals against the Eagles is because Jordan Malata is out and he's being replaced with a guy named

Fred Johnson. He gives up his pressure rate as a left tackle is twenty two percent against opposing defensive ends. The average is six percent. Offensive lines dictate your ability to run the ball, protect the quarterback. Score. It's why I love the Lions so much. It's why we love them so much. Last weekends the Vikings, it's why we hate them. We hate the Giants against the Eagles. I hate the Giants against the Steelers too. It's not a great spot like a team that's been blown out against

a team that did the blowing out. That's a bad formula if you want to be a better it's very public to take the Steelers right now. I'm not saying it's the wrong side, but it's not the sharp side.

Speaker 1

Okay, there's always a game. I'm interested in your opinion. Jets minus seven at New England. They humiliated New England the first time. Drake may look pretty good last week. The Jets are a circus. I mean it's they look like they're significantly worse on defense without their best coach, Robert Sola. He was their best coach. They're not as good in the two games defensively without him. Offensively, the first game they used motion. Aaron Rodgers doesn't like it.

By the second game with the new coordinator, their motion was cut in half. That is so Aaron. He doesn't like motion. He wants to go to the line, keep it clean, all make the call. It's begging me to take New England. Tell me where I should go.

Speaker 4

Well, if you want to bet this game, which you shouldn't want to, and you definitely should not want to make it one of your blazing five because you're on a streak right now, you take New England. Right, You've got Drake May, he's proving he can throw the ball. You've got a depleted Jets secondary, which we saw last week. Like every single play I felt like another Jets player was going out. Even Sauce Gardner got banged up a little bit in last week's game. But you don't want

to play this game. There are four big ish underdogs this week, the Jets, the Titans, the Browns, the Raiders. There are two games wise, guys want to play the underdogs, one game they completely want to ignore, and one game in which they want to play the favorites, The Patriots Jets is the game they want to ignore.

Speaker 1

All right, you always give me a game that I missed completely? What say you?

Speaker 4

Well, look, we talked about some good ones since the Indie I love those games. We talked about Chicago. We haven't talked about Cleveland and Las Vegas and their matchups against the Ravens and the Chiefs.

Speaker 1

I can't stomach both. Just give me one, pick one.

Speaker 4

It's so hard, Like the wise guys love them both. At this point, you're better off just betting the number, and like it's a little bit more of a number, higher number with the Raiders and the Chiefs than it is with the Browns and the Ravens. I lean If I have to choose only one of them, I lean Browns.

I think they're closer to getting better. And again subscribing to the theory that if I'm going to bet on a really bad team that is a big underdog, I want that team to at least have one dominant unit. And the Browns do have a dominant defensive end in Miles Garrett, who wasn't even on the injury report this week. They have a dominant cornerback and Denzel Ward, who's been playing great all season long. The Ravens do give up a lot of points this most points in the second

half this season. Along with the Titans, So there is an opportunity for Jamis if he decides to go crazy in the second half, for them to pull off a backdoor cover. I worry about the Raiders. Mahomes has a bad record as a favorite of more than three, but that record has been getting better the past two seasons. He's nine six and one against the spread as a favorite of more than three the past two seasons. So you got to look at it not just holistically, but

in some recency. And this team, they're turning the ball over, they can't get off, they can't stay on the field on third down. I just worry they're not going to have that many opportunities to score against the Chiefs defense that is pretty good. So the one thing they have going for them is brock Bauers has the most receptions for a rookie tight end since two thousand and the one thing the Chiefs haven't been able to do this year.

They couldn't guard Kittle, they couldn't guard Isaiah Likely, they couldn't guard Mike. For the Bengals, all of them had either close to one hundred or just under one hundred yards receiving, but none of them won the game. So I lean Browns. If I have to choose one of them, I don't want to, but that's what I would do.

Speaker 1

By the way, Packers minus three and a half at the Jaguars screams Jags, doesn't it?

Speaker 4

Yes on it Screamshags so much it's moved from four and a half to four to three and a half. I think at three and a half you're sort of at the bleeding edge of what the wise guys would do. They're really not that interested in it, but they would still do it because they're getting the hook. But you missed the best of the number on that one.

Speaker 1

Yeah, all right, Chad Miller. You want to talk about the Lions, Well, they played a brilliant football game, and so I don't think teams play perfect back to back. So let's discuss the number. So my rule, the biggest number on the board I throw out. I don't want to be a sucker. Detroit minus eleven and a half hosting Tennessee, so you're off a huge, intense divisional game. Tennessee is a seller now near the trade deadline, they're moving off people. That worries me in the locker room.

You know, Detroit's a better team what say you on the line eleven and a half. That's a college line.

Speaker 4

Yeah, it's massive, and I'd almost always ignore it. But I have bet the Lions, full disclosure, I bet him at ten and a half. I don't hate at eleven. This game is power rated by professional betters closer to thirteen or fourteen. But the bookmakers know they can't post a thirteen, they can't post a fourteen. They'll immediately get money on Tennessee at that big of a number, and it's totally realistic for the game to land around, you know, thirteen or fourteen. But again it goes back to the

offensive line. This is a dominant team. Is the best team in the NFC, bar Nutt. They are on a collision course with the Chiefs to play in the Super Bowl. Jared Goff is the best quarterback against the spread in the NFL the past several seasons. The Lions the past four seasons seventy against the spread. That is an unmatched trend for them other than the New England Patriots of their middle aughts dynasty, Middle teams dynasty. So I don't

hate the Lions here. If I'm betting any of the big favorites it's going to be on the Lions fair.

Speaker 1

Enough, Chad Millman, Sharper Square, get better, Get well, my friend.

Speaker 4

Thank you sir.

Speaker 1

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