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Colin Cowherd Podcast Prime Cuts - Jim Harbaugh’s Mind Games, Bears A Playoff Team? NFL’s Xmas Day Takeover, Who Wins The NBA West?

Mar 30, 202437 min
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Colin’s top takes of the week!

He’s joined by John Middlekauff, host of “3 and Out” to talk about whether Jim Harbaugh is engaging in deception and subterfuge when it comes to the NFL draft (3:15), and debate whether the Bears will be a playoff team in 2024 (9:30)

Nick Wright, host of “First Things First” on FS1 stops by to talk about the NFL seizing Christmas day from the NBA and whether or not they’ve overreached (22:30) and they debate if any team has a chance of dethroning the Denver Nuggets in the western conference (32:00).

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sorts of news going on. So Jmac on our show today that heard FS one brought up a really interesting point. He's very good at this because he's got a lot of contacts with agents and stuff.

Speaker 2

So here's Jim Harbaugh just continually saying JJ McCarthy's the best player in the draft. I mean, this guy's unbelievable. Well, as he brought up today, Minnesota is poised to move up every rumor on every board. As Minnesota's moving up, they've accumulated two first picks. Well, they don't want to move up to first, second, or third, probably because then you'd have to give up multiple ones, you know, for

a college player. But you could move up to five with the Chargers and probably get JJ McCarthy, because we don't believe unless the Giants move up spots to go to Arizona spot, it really is very nobody. Chicago's not given up their pick. I don't think Washington's given up their pick.

Speaker 1

Now.

Speaker 2

New England's open for business at three, but I think there's some misgivings with Jade and Daniels size, some of his style of play to put him up in New England in that weather. My guess is so j Max said. What they're doing basically is Harbaugh is saying how great McCarthy is, because if you like JJ McCarthy, he'd be a reach at one, two or three. But at five, if he is a reach, it's not a huge reach.

If he's projected to be nine, ten, eleven, twelve. And all Harbaugh is doing is saying, oh, this guy's great. He wants you to spend more to get his fifth pick, and I thought, yeah, that's exactly what he's doing right.

Speaker 4

Well, Adam Peters told the local guys today they're not open for business. They've listened, but they were never open.

Speaker 2

That's Washington's GM.

Speaker 4

That's Washington's GM. I do think the Patriots saying that here's the problem for the Chargers. Ideally they would love to do that deal right eleven twenty three, Maybe next year's too big hole kind of help reset their roster. Monty Austin for the Arizona Cardinals GM said we have flashing lights open for business, right flashing lights. Girod Mayo said within the last twenty four hours, we're open for business too. If teams trade up before the Chargers, it

takes two to tango. Teams often say, hey, we wanted to move back or we wanted to move forward. We couldn't get a yes on the other end of the line. What if quarterbacks and teams trade either the Patriots take a guy or trade back, and the Giants and the Vikings take three to four what happens to the Chargers

if they get stuck there? Because I have a hard time Colin envisioning them, and I know these wide receivers are viewed very highly, and I know they just got rid of to google Jim Harbos's history and his GM just came from the Ravens. They would much more be inclined to take a lineman that's more of their style high in the draft. But they already have a left tackle googling Alt He's only played on the left side. I think it's a little rich for the Oregon State

guy who's more of a right tackle. Potentially. Yeah, they already have two defensive linemen, but you could always take a defensive lineman. I don't think there's a guy viewed as a number five overall pick in this draft at that spot.

Speaker 1

They could get.

Speaker 4

Stuck pretty quickly. Now they could just take a wide receiver. Do you envision a Ravens GM and Jim Harbaugh taking a wide receiver with a filmal pick? So I can't. I can't.

Speaker 2

So I have envisioned if they got If the Chargers got Minnesota's picks and it was two firsts, my first thing I envisioned would be they moved back to like what is eleven or twelve?

Speaker 1

What are the Vikings eleven?

Speaker 2

Yeah, my takeaway is that they would take the Oregon State tackle at eleven, maybe a bit high, but he's a bruiser and they could also use him on the interior of their issues. And then I think their second pick would be a defensive tackle from like Texas or one of the big interior linemen, right tackle, defensive tackle, and I'm like, that's exactly now, and then they'd go get a center. They got two fourth round picks, They're going to get a center of the third or the

fourth round. That's what Jim wants to do. He wants to get big. You know, George Young, the legendary Giants GM used to always say, when in doubt, go big heart. That's how Harbaugh and Baltimore and the Harbaugh's draft they just go big a lot.

Speaker 3

Hell.

Speaker 2

I can make an argument Zay Flowers is the first home run wide receiver hit that Lamar Jackson's had Where you're I mean Odell didn't make any impact. Mark Andrews has been ready the star of the receiving game. So yeah, I'm with.

Speaker 4

And they took him in the twenties, yes, right, the Ravens, the Helodinadas, those types they take higher. Ronnie Stanley say, Flowers are are they taking even though Moliku neighbors and Roma Dunes, they are viewed as top ten. Marvin Harrison, I just I have a really hard time.

Speaker 1

Now.

Speaker 4

Maybe Marvin Harrison he's seen them up close and personal. Maybe he feels very comfortable with that player. But I can't imagine that's what they want to do. But I can already envision them getting stuck because if if a quarterback goes one, two, three, four, whether that's trade ups, obviously Arizona would have to trade back. But let's say the Patriots even stay there. What if there's no one to trade with the Chargers.

Speaker 2

Well, yeah, So today the New York Giants, the Marra family said that they can draft a quarterback at number six. The mars said they will allow the GM and the coach if they think it's necessary. Nice of them, Nice of them to say you can draft a quarterback, So I think they will. I can see the Giants. Actually, you know, my guess, I don't know. If I knew Jade and Daniels in that weather, I would run much rather have. So don't we both agree it's gonna go

Caleb Drake May one and two? Do we agree with that?

Speaker 4

Pellasorrow said today from the league meetings that he's heard a lot of JJ McCarthy with Adam Peters. And when you think of Adam Peters's history, right even recently, they won a lot with Jimmy Garoppolo, and then they had immediate success with Brock Purdy. Now, obviously these two guys are two of the best. I mean, Brady's the best

player ever in Peyton mannings the top five quarterback. He was around those guys in Denver and then New England, so prototypical, and the one guy that he completely whiffed on with the group was Trey Lance. So I wonder if they're more inclined. I heard Drake may forever, but then when I saw that, I don't think that's just getting thrown around, because if JJ could go four, what the hell's the difference of taking him too, If people like him at four or five, it's not crazy to

think someone would like him at two. Write the same pick.

Speaker 2

Essentially, if I get new information, I change my opinion. And I'm not your classic journalist. Obviously I'm not a boots on the ground guy, but I'm tex texted NFL two NFL gms today about something so and you have the same content contacts and the same kind of effort.

Speaker 3

Is that we're both.

Speaker 2

Seeking information constantly and sometimes I just get new information. And I was very cool on Ryan Pole's you know, former offensive lineman the Bears GM A Vilas Jones pick. I could not stand at number three. I just thought it was a complete whiff. And I thought they just didn't do their homework or their sec scout didn't do their homework because at sc he couldn't track the ball. He was a returner.

Speaker 1

Max.

Speaker 2

I didn't love the Chase Claypool move, but I understood it. Mooney was a smaller player, Chase was a big body, had a great rookie year. Distracted player didn't work. But I got to tell you, as a former offensive lineman, I think he's put some effort into draft capital, and I think their left tackle and right tackle can both play. They had another tackle, they moved inside. They've saved his career. I thought the Dj Moore move Keenan Allen, DeAndre Swift,

Jerald Everett. I've got to be honest. I did not a year ago. I did not trust Ryan Polls, the GM of the Bears. But I've got new information. The other thing they're doing, which the Steelers aren't. The Steelers and the Bears are defined defensively. They're cultures. I mean, outside of Bradshawn Ben and some talented receivers, it's a defensive culture. He is saying, No, that's not what we're

gonna do here. We're gonna spend money on offense. That's what the Rams do, what the Browns are doing, that's what the Chiefs are doing. It's the opposite of the Steelers. So I find over the last two weeks when he went and got Keenan DeAndre Swift, good pass catching running back, twenty five year old kid, good player, not a great player, good player. And then Gerald Everett with Cole Kamett, those

are functional, smart players. I've got to be honest. Between Caleb, who I really like, between these offensive pieces, I almost feel like I've got new information. I think the Bears got the GM right. How is he viewed inside the league?

Speaker 4

Well, I mean, I think he had what has potential to be one of the great moves in the history of the league in that trade that he made last year with the Carolina Panthers, Right, because for a while looked like he was going to be defined on some of his worst moves. That was early on. I mean, that Chase Claypool move was pretty embarrassing because his pick ended up being really high, and I think the Steelers ended up drafting Joey Porter Junior, who's a really high

end play. I mean that pick at the high at the beginning of the second round is very, very valuable. But that Carolina Panther trade, I mean truly was a game changer. And if Caleb he does not have to become Patrick Mahomes, if he just as a top ten NFL quarterback, which would be probably the best quarterback in the history of the franchise, it would change their franchise forever. And he took advantage of a team and an owner

who was desperate and cleaned up right. And he also added one of their best players who was under contract in Dj Moore. Because my first thought last year when they traded for Sweat, I'm like, God, that's a little much. Well, then they immediately got him, they started winning games, their defense was better, so their draft pick actually ended up not as bad. They got him under contract, Like, actually, that aged pretty well. I had to kind of eat that.

I was like, well, that's not as crazy as it looked. So yeah, when you work for Andy and Veitch and John Dorsey, he was around a lot of high level people for a while, and I think it's fair. I'm sure you would agree, and you've done this just like most people. Every human being makes bad business decisions, right, most peoples are not public. As a GM, every move you make is very public, right, So you're gonna have bad ones, but it doesn't have to define you if

your great moves are awesome. Joe Douglass has had some really good moves for the Jets, but his quarterback moves so far have just not worked out, and it's going

to ultimately get him fired if they don't work. So, if you figure out the quarterback situation, which they are primed to do in Chicago, all these other kind of they're not even antler moves because they were kind of big, have a chance to If DJ Morris is in the Pro Bowl for a couple of years and Sweat's a pro bowler, I mean we're gonna be talking about this guy like a top ten and if he can get the Bears as a winning operation. Now, as a GM,

you're also very dependent on your head coach. There is no great general manager that doesn't either have a good de great head coach. So you don't once the season starts, you're not implementing anything. You're not with the player, you're not doing anything. Really, Chris very Chris gets the second.

Speaker 2

Yeah, Chris Balard's reputation is going to improve over the next two years because of Shane Steichen.

Speaker 4

Well, I mean he has might have the next Kyle Shanahan, right, so it's gonna it's gonna change his life, right, it already did this year. The quarterback got hurt. We're all like, oh, culture screwed. All of a sudden, they're in the playoff Mixed Week seventeen with Gardner Minshew. So there's a lot of pressure on Eberflus, and most GMS get two coaches, so this was kind of a packaged deal. Pollyan, remember was involved with the hiring of these guys. It was

definitely Eberflus. So if this doesn't work out, you get another one. You gotta get it right because if he gets it right with Caleb and the players, he could be viewed as an elite guy. But if he doesn't, a lot like the quarterback position just because you have a good quarterback. If your coach isn't good enough, you're gonna be in trouble. I think the pressure on iber Flu's Sirianni and McCarthy because of their markets, because I mean it's the Cowboys. He has no years left on

his contract. They almost fired Siriani like two months ago. Those guys are going to be in their own little stratosphere and the way we talk about it. But I think eber Flus that the pressure starts immediately because of their roster, because of the talent, and because they have a quarterback that we've been talking. It happened in Jacksonville, right part of Urban Meyer. Obviously there was a lot going on, but like you got handed, Trevor Lawrence, So

to me, the pressure gets multiplied by like ten. You know that Frank Reich, all of a sudden, we draft this guy at number one, we trade our franchise. I gotta fire you. It's not where that adds an element of pressure with the high quarterback pick, or it makes you Demiko get the guy right, like god Di, Miko's a shooting rocket ship. Now he might he would have been probably saw it. He would have figured out because Miko's pretty special, but I don't know. I mean, Eflues

looks like he's changed. His look feels a little younger.

Speaker 2

Have you noticed that.

Speaker 4

Yeah, So his team's good. I mean, there's no disputing the roster talent is I mean, Keenan Allen's are real. They have multiple receivers, they have a tight end, they got some good they have picks. The other thing, it's not like they just got Kleb then it'll pick again until the second round. They have the ninth pick in the draft, so the ability to either trade back or

take a player. Imagine if they get that right. So they have this really talented roster on paper already, and they had Caleb Williams and player X. If that guy becomes an immediate impact player. You know, we're talking about this team as a wild card.

Speaker 2

Well, I I if I was Chicago, I'd trade down at nine. I really would. Again, you're in a we've talked about the Chargers and the Giants. I think those positions like five and six are too rich for some of these quarterbacks.

Speaker 4

Nine.

Speaker 2

You know, if somebody wants to go Raiders eleven to nine, that's.

Speaker 4

Different than Denver sitting right there too.

Speaker 2

Yeah, so I could see where the Bears would move down just three spots. Because this draft, i've been told, has eighteen first round players. It's usually about fifteen to sixteen. This feels like eighteen or night. The UCLA end is kind of the end of perceived first round talent, you know, the end of the first round. Those last eight to nine picks. It's no man's land. Everybody would rather have top of the second picks. But I've heard the UCLA rush end is probably in that small group of last

considered elite start Day one players be very productive. So I do think the Bears are in a good spot. I Jalen Johnson, the corner, Montese Whatt defensive line. I would think if they've got two receivers. Now, my take was their offensive moves in free agency signaled that that number nine pick is going to go defense. They got to get Ibra flu something right. You can't just keep

saying I got receivers, I got tight ends. And for the record, I think they probably they probably need I mean, if you look at that position, there's a verse from Florida State. They could probably use another rush end.

Speaker 4

Yeah, you could take the Bama pass Rusher as well. You could take one of those two guys for sure if you get stuck. The one thing with Chicago, you'd say that division. Detroit kept their offensive coordinator, who I think a lot of people view as the lynchpin of that operation. So they're gonna be good again. The talent

on that roster is not really debatable. It's top five to six in the NFL that the Lions roster, and like most people, it's hard to bet against the Packers if Jordan Love is going to be a good player. So it's it's like it's going to be easy for them right that they're playing. And if Minnesota is just a credible operation with a lot of good talented players, it's going to be a challenge. And even if Caleb

is really good, it's the NFL is hard. I mean, Peyton Manning set a record for interceptions this rookie year. So it's it's just the pressure that comes along with it. Now, Caleb, like you know a lot of guys in recent memory, has been under the spotlight. He's used to it, he's used to getting paid, so the money shouldn't overwhelm them. But there's when's last time the Bears had this much pressure slash interest probably fifteen plus years ago.

Speaker 2

When's the last time they had this much offensive talent? When's the last time the Bears had a legitimate star number one receiver and a legitimate star number two receiver that's just not that you know, and a star quarterback. I couldn't tell you the last time he had Jay Cutler. Didn't he have Alshon Jeffrey?

Speaker 4

Yeah, he had Alshon, They had Brandon Marshall for a minute. They had those two guys. They were solid. They were a real team, and that's kind of what this. But Jay by that time was a veteran player played Okay, it's been in Lincoln Riley's offense. There is a little bit of a jolt, you know, yet Waldron runs more of the Shanahan operation. There's time to just get used to playing in a system where you're probably under center

a little more now. Part of it is as an offensive coordinator, you're not going to force him to do things he doesn't want to do, but you also have to kind of find a middle ground. So I'm fascinated. I like you said, Ryan Poles, I give him an a plus for about the last twelve months, he's been kicking ass to take a name. All right.

Speaker 2

We like to bring on Nick right as often as we can. So it's I think the NFL views the sports world differently. So we all know that big eats small, right, just in business, big eat small. Like at some point Fox is like, we can't build the scale to compete with Disney and Netflix. We're going to sell a big chunk of our business off. By the way, they took

Disney for a ride. They got about eighty billion dollars for a movie business that wasn't worth anything, and the twenty billion dollars for the regional sports network that was worth a nickel about a year later. But the NFL has now scheduled another Christmas Day game. So there was always sort of a gentleman's agreement in sports. You know, you get Opening Day in baseball and the NBA gets Christmas Day, and then you know the NFL is going

to dominate certain things in the fall. Now, for the record, I've always believed, and I've thought this forever, that the NBA would be much better served starting two days after the Monday after Thanksgiving, the Wednesday after Thanksgiving, Monday Tuesday

is football talk from the weekend. Then Wednesday's a dead day, and that sports calendar NBA starts a month later, plays into early July because those it's wide open and then so I've always thought the NBA has got their schedule, they should just move it a month later on both ends beginning and end. But it is interesting now kind of the pitbull attack mantra of the NFL. I think they see weakness. I think they see Steph and Lebron getting older. And I think that Marketing Day on Christmas

was a real thing. It was an introduction as we're all home to the NBA. They put the biggest games, the biggest starts, and it was sort of their free marketing day. And I think the NFL had, not that they were getting huge ratings, but they were the biggest regular season game. And I think the NFL sees weakness. I think they watched the NBA during BLM and COVID, you know, lose some viewers for you know, maybe positioning

marketing on that stumble a little. Perhaps you can see some ratings erosion there.

Speaker 1

Uh.

Speaker 2

And then Lebron and Steph are getting older, the game's getting more a little bit more European and it's it's interesting, like the gloves are off. It feels like to me, the NFL said we're going to squeeze you, and I I think, yeah, go ahead. And I do believe that's a tipping point. That Christmas Day mattered a lot to the NBA, and those NFL games put a blanket over it.

Speaker 1

So there's there's two angles of this. One is what it means for the NBA, and it's terrible for the NBA. The opening day in the NBA is fine, but it used to then have uh, it used to have. Christmas Day is a big day that's going away. The All Star Game Now it's like a nobody gives a shit

about that joke. And then and now the NBA, both professional and collegiate basketball at this point in this country, seem to be moving towards we really love your postseason and the rest of it, take it or leave it, yep. So I think it is bad for the NBA in that regard. I also think, and this is where we might disagree long term, I think this is a massive strategic error by the NFL. And here's why. I think one of the secrets to the NFL's success it is all of us, and I don't mean media. We are

in a different spot because it's literally our job. But everyone that loves football has convinced all of their loved ones, spouses, children, whatever, who don't love football that the games are unmissable like it is. I don't know about you. I think most of your listeners at this point they don't even get shipped from their significant others. When my team is playing a NFL game. They know I am out of commission. I am watching. It is mandatory. I'm not going to

a wedding, correct. We will. We won't schedule our own events, We won't. You know what I mean. No one's gonna ask me to take my kid to the birthday party. That no the okay. So here's why I think it's a mistake. It's the same reason I thought that putting on Christmas Eve that Bill's Chargers game on an app was a mistake. Because it's Christmas Eve and it's on an app and people are just gonna miss it, and the moment it starts being and Christmas Day, they put

a Raiders game at one pm Christmas. Those fans are on the West coast, that's ten am. That's Christmas morning, So there were a lot of Raider fans who just missed the game. Here's why it matters. Now your significant other or your kid or whomever says you can miss, you missed the other. It was fine, you watched it later,

you caught up it. As soon as it becomes if the if the inventory becomes so ubiquitous, and that you put it on days where people are going to miss, and Christmas people are gonna miss some Thursday right then all of a sudden, it's like, oh, you don't have to watch every game. You thought you did, but you don't. And even if you still think you do, your wife or your significant other, it's like, you do not have to watch every game. I know it because we were

at Aunt Margaret's house on Christmas. Even you didn't watch and you were fine. So I think long term, I think it's a mistake. I'm the only person that thinks this. I understand the ratings are going to be massive, but I think there has been a I think all of us, especially as they've added the seventeenth game, like I whisper, I don't want my kids to hear it, so they don't like to hear it, like I cover the sport. I could probably miss a game or two and be okay.

But they don't think that. They're like, no, it's daddy's watching football. Don't bother him Daddy's I'm like, yes, it's worked, but all of a sudden, you put games on Christmas, they're gonna be missed. Like now, I watched the Chiefs. It was my team played at one BM on Christmas. And that's the other thing that was also the worst, dude, that was the Raiders game. Yeah, just a disaster. I mean, we haven't didn't lose sense, by the way, super Bowl champions,

but uh, I didn't like it. I didn't love it. Yeah, because here's the difference. NBA is watched passively, Yes, even on Christmas, Like even the Christmas Day games, it's in the background, right, it's on, and then oh it's close with five minutes of them sit down and watch. I don't know how to watch football passively. I can't come in and out of the room and be like that's just not how my brain works with football. So I just don't. I don't And it's on a Wednesday. I

don't know. I don't love the Christmas Day thing. I like the rule changes the NFL did. I'm not just trying to bang on the league. I think the Christmas Day thing's a little greedy. I don't love it, and I think it's short sighted.

Speaker 2

Yeah, no, I don't disagree. I you know, it's it's I tend to I don't know if this is selfish or not. I tend to look at the sports calendar and I see everything through the eyes of what does it do for the production of my show and my staff. So when they talked about eighteen games and that's going

to happen, they'll add a second bye week. Well, the season will end, the staff will go dark for a week, everybody gets vacation, we'll come back, we'll be right into free agency in the final twenty games of the NBA season. So for me, I'm like, oh, it's great, I get rid of two dead weeks of sports talk. But you know, one of the things, like, for instance, college basketball is a prime example. I can absolutely be fascinated with something for three weeks and nothing more. And I think it's

it's the sports brain. Like college basketball. This next weekend, Gonzaga Perdue will not miss it. These big games this weekend will not miss it. I don't think the quality of college basketball is great, but I like the Marti grass field that the annual party.

Speaker 1

Listen every It's cliche and it's the only time anyone ever uses this specific word is with college sports. But it's the right word. The pageantry of it is something, yes, like the students and the band and all of it. It is it. It overcomes the fact that I'm like, I'm pretty sure this team shoots thirty six percent on open shots. Like I'm like, I am pretty like this

is not good. No, but it is entertaining. But you're right, I feel totally fine parachuting in Yes, like the I don't pretend to act like I'm a college basketball expert. I'm not. And I came into the tournament. I'm like, ah, I used to live in Houston. I like the coach. I'll root for them, and other than that, I'll root for underdogs because it's fun. I'll root against Yukon because it'll cause Wild's pain and then that'll just be it,

like you know, and then I'm into it. And the women's game has stars that I that I'm into, But I don't need to have a year long investment. That's right. I just don't. Can I throw a pretty ridiculous but I believe it's correct. NBA takeout absolutely, I love these Okay, so right now, if you had to pick a team to win the West, you would pick who.

Speaker 2

I think the Lakers match up with Denver physically, now that Karl Anthony Towns is hurt. They don't. Okayse's too young, Phoenix to mid range too. They duplicate too many of their skills. I think Denver will eventually get healthy win. I think Boston's deeper but will lose West. Yeah, Denver is the heavy favorite by everyone.

Speaker 4

Right.

Speaker 1

I agree with you, even though they're the nine seed. The Lakers appear to me to have the most upside. Every everyone's healthy, everything clicks, all of it. But they can't beat Denver. They got swept by him last year, they got swept in the regular season, games are closed, but they just can't beat them. Okay, So here is the gallaic. Here is the take that's gonna sound ridiculous, but I truly believe the Lakers should want Denver and

round one. And here's why. If you have to beat them, no matter what, if the assumption is no one's gonna beat them for you, Okay, you're gonna have to beat them. You want them in round two when you just went six or seven with Minnesota or OKAC and they swept whoever they were playing. You want them in round three when the games are every other day, or you want them in round one when there's two or three days between games. At times, yep, Lebron and ad can both

play forty four minutes. You are as fresh as you're going to be at any point, and try to knock them off when they you know what I mean, right before they have really hit their stride. So again, I think the Lakers in a series against Denver are like fifteen percent. And it's not like if they got them in round one they'd be fifty. But I think that fifteen percent might go up to a round two. I

truly believe, Listen. I don't think they could beat them in the guy every other day because you need Lebron to play too much, Adida play too much, right, but round one would be an intriguing spot where you could just play Lebron and ad like the whole game. I'd be like, you have two days off.

Speaker 2

This has been my theory on the Lakers. If it was March Madness style, like the Inn season title, they'd win the title. And if I was Adam Silver and I wanted to extend KD Lebron in Steph's efficiency and greatness, I would make the first round three, the second two rounds five games in the final seven. If Steph loses in the finals, Lebron or KD, that's fine, I won. But asking older players, even if you're a dominant favorite, you lose games in a series because nobody sweeps anybody,

I mean outside of Lebron in the first round. Nobody sweeps anybody. So what's happening is you're making revenue, but you really lessen the chances of the Warriors. Instead, Steph is carrying the Warriors. Now he has to go six games in the first two playoffser if it was three and they steal what Steph.

Speaker 1

Takes two of us. Yeah. So I always.

Speaker 2

Said, forget the greed, shorten the playoff series until the finals, and it allows older players to remain viable in those last two to three years of their contract or career, like KD, Lebron and Steph. Right now, well so that's and the age thing.

Speaker 1

This is what everybody what nobody realizes is how old these guys are in NBA years. Kobe Bryant won the final playoff game. Kobe Bryant ever won he was thirty three. The final playoff game Michael Jordan ever won he was thirty five. Steph is thirty six. KD is either thirty six, right or about to be. I'm gonna check. Lebron obviously is thirty seven. We are already on KD is thirty five turns thirty six in a few months. We're on

borrowed time with these guys historic we've been. I don't borrow time with Lebron, but we are on borrowed time with these guys, and folks don't realize it, Like because Lebron has won a title at and finals MVP at thirty five and then was in the conference finals at thirty eight, that's not the history. That's not There is no precedent for that. Those guys are not supposed to still be carrying their rosters. And by the Durant thing man,

this is an unbelievable stat. Durant's first eleven years in the league goulling, he played forty nine conference finals or NBA Finals games. One ninety nine minutes in the conference finals of the NBA Finals. So in Durant's first eleven seasons, six years he was in the second to last series of the year, and three years he was in the

last one. In the six years he has played since then, he has played eleven minutes in the conference finals in NBA Finals, Kevin Durant, in his thirties has played eleven minutes past round two. Hey, which is a damn shame, but it is wild that it has happened.

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I said it when it happened. I know I'm giving myself credit. But when he left Golden State for Brooklyn, I said, this is the equivalent of Mahomes saying I have a friend playing for the Jets, I want to go to the Jets. We would go the fuck you talking about you're out of your mind? Andy Reid, Steve Kerr, Steph Clay Draymond. That is the difference between Lebron and KD. Lebron may have had a difference with teammates. Lebron will be like, this is a cash cow, I'm not going

any Lebron has left all d Wade crazy, Kyrie. He's left untalented Cleveland. If Kyrie would have stayed, and Kevin Love he would have stayed in Cleveland. Lebron has left because of a His exit strategies were usually I can't win.

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Barn has left because he thought that this is over. I need to be able to win else steps and he did me And Listen, KD, this is where you and I do someone disagree. I totally get why Katie left because we all said those rings don't count. Loser don't care. Everybody yelled at him, said you're ruining the sport. The rings don't count. It wasn't the leaving, just the leaving.

It was the leaving plus being like, I'm going to go from the lowest maintenance, most reliable wingman superstar in Steph Curry to the highest maintenance, least reliable one in Steph Kurry in Kyrie Irving, Like going from that to that is what the And then the Phoenix thing, like Phoenix built poorly. They just they you know, the roster never made sense, but it is. Listen, Katie's no longer

a true MVP candidate. He's closer to the tenth best player in the league than the best player in fair you know what I mean, which is but for him too in the last six years, not make it out around two is one of the wildest things ever for a player of his caliber to not get those his whole twenties NBA postseason great Series moments. He was a part of it. He was a part of the tapestry. And now he hasn't played, you know, a really big He's played, in my opinion, in the last six years.

One huge game, Game seven against Giannis round and that was round two, and that was the game where he stepped on the line where he hit what he thought was the game winner and stepped on the line and then I'll losing overtime. And that's it. Other than that, it's getting worked in round one or going out and round it's it sucks. It's not what I and I'm not like killing him for it. I don't think it's because he's like not a great player, but it is a I don't have that, you know, I don't have

it in front of me. But it feels a little like the last you know, half decade of Marino, or maybe eight years of Marino, where it's like it's not like there were a bunch of deep you know, I know, you didn't win a ring, but you had deep playoff runs. It's like, no, there's you know what I mean A lot of years where it's just like you lost in the loud card round, you lost in round two, you've missed the playoffs, you lost in the wild card round.

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