Colin Cowherd Podcast - Russ Outduels Aaron, Chiefs Keep Winning Ugly, Lions The “Class Of The NFC”, Saquon Torches Giants, CFB Reaction

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So we'll get to a John middlcoff in about twelve minutes, and we're going to have a great hour with John on a variety of topics from Georgia Texas to Kansas City San Francisco Eagles Giants. So the Steelers beat the Jets thirty seven to fifteen. It is the most points the Steelers have scored since twenty twenty one, and the Jets have now surrendered sixty points since Robert Sala, the

best coach on their staff, is fired. So I was just thinking about this, so I wrote down how every Jets game has gone blown out, ugly win, dominating win, New England first team in the league, ugly loss, close loss, close loss, ugly loss. There are two and five football team and the Steelers are five and two. And if you watch tonight the Steelers offense, I mean it may have been ugly for Russell Wilson in that first quarter, it was really ugly, but second half he was the

better quarterback. So two takeaways. The Jets fired Robert Sala the defense in the last two games. I said it at the time, you just fired the best coach in your staff. The defense has not played up to a Robert Solis standard since he was fired. That's what change does. So now Aaron is asked to be better than he was before when Sala was the coach because the defense isn't as good, so you got rid of the best coach on your staff. And yeah, I mean in the

second half of that game. So I went I was thinking about Russell Wilson because obviously I was a huge fan of Seattle. Then Denver was the hacket eyear was a disaster, and the Sean Payton ere it was fine. And then I went and looked at the numbers for Russell Wilson in Denver, and because Sean had such disdain for him, you know, there was this sense that Russell was terrible in Denver. No, the Broncos defense last year was awful. That's why it's so surprising that the Broncos

defense this year is so good. It's mostly the same players. What happened, I mean the same guys. Basically, they didn't have many draft picks, right, they gave him up to get Russell Wilson, so they went and got a kid from Utah defensive end. They just didn't have any picks once and got a receiver or two. So Russell last year in Denver with Sean Payton, and they didn't they didn't connect, but he won five games in a row

in the middle of the season. He finished with a ninety eight passer rating, sixty six percent completion percentage, twenty six touchdowns, eight picks, and elusive, not terrible. It's above average. I mean, ninety eight passer rating is a B to a B plus quarterback. The very few interceptions inaccurate. So as you were watching the second half to night, Russell was in total control. He was more athletic than Aaron Rodgers.

He had two touchdowns, no interceptions. I thought he played an incredibly clean game through for about two hundred and sixty plus yards. If you had told me before the night started, Russell Wilson would have outplayed Aaron Rodgers. I would have said, you're out of your mind. This guy hasn't played in forever. He's coming off a really bumpy, ugly, bad pr year in Denver. And he out played him. And Pittsburgh ran the ball. You know, it's the Steelers.

They're just going to kind of grind it and ugly it and they're probably going to end up winning nine to ten games. But Russell Wilson in the second half was better. And what's becoming increasingly clear, and this is not to take a shot, but Aaron is a completely a pocket quarterback. Now he's Jared Goff, but Jared Goff is much more accurate, with a much better offensive line. But he doesn't move. Aaron doesn't move anymore. He has a lot of shuttle passes, a lot of quick passes.

He didn't want to get hit, and he doesn't move. And just go look at how valuable Mahomes movement was today, or Jordan Love's movement was today. Go look around the league in the morning. Trevor Lawrence moving, that's winning football games, Josh Allen's movement today. Aaron is a pocket only quarterback with some flips, quick passes. Didn't stand in the pocket very long. The receiving course. Okay, now, Mike Williams even made a catch tonight, but Russell was the better quarterback.

And you know it was ugly early, but you got to get over first impressions. This is a two and five football team. Thank god they played the Patriots again. They play the Jags later, So, I mean, New York's got all sorts of opportunities, but we're gonna have to

be totally honest here. Russell Wilson, with this defense and this culture and this head coach and this run game is going to end up having a better year than Aaron Rodgers with that interim coach and that crappy culture and that bad owner and a hit and misrun game, Jets couldn't run the ball tonight. You know, it's funny Aaron and Russell Wilson. I can't speak for Russell. I don't think Russell spent a lot of time thinking about Aaron Rodgers, but Aaron has never been a fan of

Russell Wilson. You know, Aaron, I don't know if he's spiritual. I'm not sure if he's agnostic, but he's spiritual. Always kind of rolled his eyes at Russell Wilson. It was pretty understood in the league, So to lose to Russell Wilson is you know, it's just I would imagine kind of digs and Aaron Rodgers. But I don't think anybody could watch that game tonight and be confused. Russell was much more under control, had a better run game, had a better coach. But that's that's part of it. So

you know, it's funny. When Russell first went to Pittsburgh, my take was, oh, it's a pretty good spot. It won't be a heavy lift for him. He's got pickings on the outside, got a couple of good backs. It's a good culture. And then you know he calf injury, loses his job to Justin Fields. You know, you just you just tearing things that you know, is he a Steeler? I mean the press, the leaks, but you're why tonight man,

And I'm like, yeah, that's better than Justin Field's. He was more under control his cadence at the line of scrimmage. He was more under control. So we got to be fair about this stuff. What do he looked like in the first quarter and what he looked like in the second half two different things. And the Jets, I mean, I said going into the weekend it was one of my picks of the week. Then the staff here at

the volume's like, are you sure? My blazing five? Two wins, two losses and a push, but this was my second favorite moment of the week. I thought, Russell hasn't played, he's coming off a calf injury. The locker room kind of like Justin Fields. I mean, big Ben is like you can't see him. There was literally nobody around the Steeler organization outside of it that thought it was a good move. There was nobody I mean big Ben talk show hosts, I follow Pittsburgh media. Nobody liked the Russell

Wilson move. And by the end of this game, you're like, of course, it felt like it was the right move. He was just I kind of just felt like he's been in so many games and so many standalone games. It wasn't too big for him. And you know, what a messy season for a franchise that cannot get out of its way. I mean, just think about this, go look at the green Bay Packers. Now. Green Bay Packers

are human. They've got a young quarterback, They've got incredible chemistry in that locker room with all those receivers and tight ends for the Packers. What a fun team to be part of. And it's now when you look at the Packers, how lucky are they to have moved on from the toxicity of Erin I'm being realistic. I mean, the Packers now are young. Generationally, everybody's on the same page.

They're fun, They're just a fun team to watch. They've got a really nice spirit in Green Bay and cranky, prickly Air goes to New York and it's just this divorce. You know that Brady Belichick divorce was really ugly. But the Aaron green Bay divorce, it's not good. It's the opposite of Brady. Brady won his divorce. Aaron's losing his green Bay young, fun, energetic, winning, New York mass impulsive, grumpy.

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a good quarterback. Mahomes had an ugly pick, Brock had a multiple picks. Brock had three, But there were three or four moments in this game you know, the the shotgun fourth and one, Mahomes running it in the thirty three yard run, and I felt, I felt in this game it'd be easy to pick on Brock curty because he didn't play well, but Mahomes didn't play particularly well. But there is something to be said about being resourceful, which I think Andy Reid and the Chiefs have made

a living on. They're still ham and egging this wide receiver court. Nobody's ever healthy today. PERTY had to deal with that debo was six and I you had a big drop that au gets hurt. I listen, they're going to pay Brock pretty we know they're gonna pay him. But in this moment, and again it's Mahomes, but I thought there was a separation kind of these three or four two or three magical moments, and it felt like Mahomes had all of them.

the pass rush. All the abs can cover that, they can lose dB after dB and they get random guys making place so everyone's on the same page. Because the guy's blitzing NonStop, you've got to be able to cover. But yeah, I mean Mahomes just comes through that. They have a little magic with him and Andy in the biggest spots. Yes, and they did benefit today from Perty and Kyle just kind of they were a bad I mean, it was just it was the The Niners are awful

in the red zone, Perdy, you cannot afford. I think the question, I think there's a couple of different angles to this one. Why are we always in such a rush to pay guys that you don't know for sure?

Let's take a nap breath. If he keeps playing this shitty against good defenses, Minnesota, turn the ball over, tonight, turn the ball over now there was one might not have been his fault, but the other, like, you just need some more plays. You can't go wow, all these injuries. Who are the Chief's playing with? Just make a cup of plays. No one's saying you're Patrick Mahomes. But this was a pretty winnable game for the forty nine ers, was it not.

somewhere in between. This has always been between Shanahan Trent Williams Kittle. So today you know, to me, the whole game came down to the brand and I you drop and that that forces a punt McCole hardman, big punt return. That was the game, Like that was the moment. Now now who knows what happens. But once again San Francisco's special teams are a huge liability in a big game.

further because it's twenty one to twelve. Cowing the kid from Arizona who can fly smokes the corner who just comes in, and even Brady's like, listen, obviously you got to hit the pass, but you hit that in stride. He walks in the end zone, so then you're down. Just I mean, a field goal wins the game at that point, there's eleven minutes to go. Instead, he has to stop. He gets tackled. A couple of plays later, he throws a pick and he's not Mahomes or Josh

Allen as a deep ball thrower. But that wasn't the hardest deep ball to throw, Like, you got to hit that in stride. But think of how the entire game is gone, no confidence, not playing well, doesn't have much cohesion with that player. It was just I just get back to this. If you have question marks about these quarterbacks and they have years to go on there, what's the difference between paying a guy fifty three million and fifty eight million it's going to cost you more? Well,

I mean, I'd rather know for sure. Like at the end of the day, the Cowboys, they know exactly who Dak is, So why didn't you just pay him a year and a half ago. If you're gonna pay him, it does save you twenty thirty.

You cannot afford turnovers. And this year Party the fumbles obviously, the picks and big spots, it just cannot happen if you can't overcome them with is incredible brilliance like Mahomes somehow is doing this year because he's turned the ball over a lot, Colin, but it hasn't seemed to matter well.

there were I have like six different plays here. There's a flip by him, he throws against his body, Travis kelcey verhurt. I have six. I've got sheet after sheet out or sheet of notes for this game. All six are Mahomes plays. Now that's not to say I mean right now, Seattle's in first place in that division. But I said coming into the season, John, you can only be so old so long. And Deebo comes in sick,

you gets banged up. This This Niner team Detroit is like a younger version of the Niners, and younger players when they do get hurt, recover more quickly. And I kind of feel like the red zone issues are mostly Christian McCaffrey. But I kind of feel like watching Shanahan today today was a moment you're at home. Kansas City's vulnerable.

No Rashi Rice players go down and they use Mkole Hardman like he's a number one, And it's just I think that you have to look at the game as a Niner fan and go, we're not beating these guys unless we got to get more special at certain places. That's how I feel about it.

his offense. It's very specific. Yeah, you know, he's it's completely different. But like Mike Leech ran what Mike Leech ran, right, Kyle runs what he runs, and if he's gashing you in the run game, the passing game runs off that. He can't just go like he has to keep running the ball even when it's not working, because his passing plays are all bootlegs and everything off play action instead of just spreading it out and let pretty in college

and listen, I'm not acting. And one thing I've always pushed back against when people criticize he's not Josh Allen or Patrick Mahomes. But relative to the majority of guys, over the course of his career, he's been better than or equal to the Dacks, the Cousins, the Gofs. But you have to rely on him sometimes, just spread it out if the run game's not working, and then you notice when they started getting back Mason started hitting some runs,

and that's when Kyle's feels the most comfortable. Andy Reid is a good example. Now he's much older and much more experienced. It doesn't matter. If something's working, he can write it. If it's not working, they can adapt it. Kyle. It's very, very specific, and I just think that so dependent on the run game. Like I know, pearsall came back from getting shot. So it's hard to put but he is a first rounder. Cowing is a talented player.

You got Kittle out there, Mason gets the ball, you can still throw the ball if the run games off. The Chiefs were lined up, I dare you to run the ball, We're gonna stop it. The majority of the game they neutralized it.

Andy Reid and the rest of these coaches. Because Shaitahnd's top five to six this game today and when when Hardman had that big punt return and I wrote this down and he immediately went into the bag of tricks. He knows you're reeling. He knows guys aren't focused. San Francisco's pissed, Oh god, we didn't do this, and he goes and when you're angry, you over pursue. When you're angry, you play with more emotion, and he goes to deception

and tricks. He's completely manipulating San Francisco go knowing off the punt return, they're reeling a little bit, they're pissed. They now they want to make a play, and he goes against your emotion, does flips reverse. I put Carson Wentz in the game at one point, like in these high leverage situations, I mean, this is this is how you win. This is Michael Jordan and the Bulls. On

bad nights, you'd have these high leverage possessions. Michael hits a jumper, Pippin makes a block, and a tie game becomes a five point Bulls lead like that, and they just milk the clock for forty second hit free throws and they win the game.

and people get to look forward to that. This is a team colin the league is very very lucky that they are banged up at wide receiver because I use it. We were talking before you hopped on, like if they just had Tyreek Hill, they'd be unbeatable. Well, he's been gone for a while. Let's just say Rice was healthy, Patako was healthy, Hollywood Brown had played the rest of

their guys were playing with worthy. This team would go sixteen and one with these I mean, I don't think that if they were remotely healthy, they'd be unbeatable because their defense is dominant.

they'd win fifteen games. But when they played, when they played Seattle, you're like, that's the old Niners. And then they play these other teams and they kind of look like a show of themselves. Today was weird. Obviously, guys got injured and sick, but I just can't do excuses when the Chiefs are playing that way too. You still got both out there. You still got Fred Warner, Tarvarius Ward, you got a lot of money's worth money worth of players. I mean, the chief there is twenty eight points, but

there was a late touchdown. The Chiefs had struggled to get to twenty again for the majority of the game.

said something today about this. He's like, I mean, he's trying to be kind, but like, at one point, these linebackers, these no name linebackers for Kansas City, now Bolton, everybody knows,

but it's like, who are these guys? They got injuries, they're they're I mean, they just it is a you know, it's like when New England was dominating, You're like, I don't really think I don't really think they have the best roster, but they had the best offensive line coach, the best coach, and the best quarterback in the best tight end. And you started looking around and you're like,

where aren't they great? And you're like, well, they don't get a lot of sacks, and then you look up and you go, oh, there were second in the league in pressures. They were kind of a holeless team. They weren't great everywhere. They were terrible nowhere Kansas City, best coach, best defensive coordinator, best quarterback, best general manager. I just don't if Rashi Rice can play. This team's winning three straight. I just don't see anybody be I text someone today.

did they do this? And it was because of Saban in the program, and Saban in the program for the Chiefs is Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes, And I think Spags they have a unique thing going because their defensive coordinator is probably never going to become a head coach, So they get this guy that now is institutional knowledge, who's elite at his job, and they're all they have this cohesion. So many teams, you got the coaches not agreeing with the GMS and the owner. It's like they're

all on the same page. Andy Veach, Mahomes, Spags, they're all speaking the same lange which and they have the best quarterback in the biggest spots even when he's not playing well. Isn't he used the Michael Jordan reference, you know, Michael Jordan or Tiger Woods. Even when they were playing their worst, you still believe when it mattered the most they were going to come through. And isn't that Patrick Mahomes. I don't he could throw seventeen picks in the game

in the fourth quarter in a HI game. I believe he's gonna make it.

I mean running backs had a huge weekend. You're gonna get paid. But you hold out a year early. I mean, look how fast Odell Beckham became irrelevant. I mean, it takes one injury to a player in this league. They're not tackling you in pro basketball. It takes one injury, next man up, and you're just not needed. And so I think, Ayuk he's needed on this team. I think Cowling the fourth round picks better than pearsall potentially. I think he runs better.

He's coaching for the foreseeable future. I think we talked Belichick, Lombardi, Andy Reid. You know, I mean, this is this is remarkable that the stuff he's doing right now in the end of.

when he got to Kansay Jamal Charles. But I would say these last five years with Butchaco that they are just much more likely to today. He's got Kareem Hunt off the street and they're just handed him the rock. He will He'll do whatever it takes. Now, it's not about style points. And I see Kyle sometimes like my offense or the Highway. It's like, well, Kyle, you your specific thing. You have to there's so many different flavors now of offense. You have to integrate some different stuff

into your packages. And I think he's very hardheaded that way, and I think that limits them sometimes in the in the red zone. I think it's why it's hard. In a weird way, it's easy to play quarterback for him because it's a quarterback friendly offense. When you're running the ball, But it can be difficult when things go wrong because it's kind of there's only one thing to do.

Cousins movement, you can see it. And this sport. I watched Dedeur Sanders again this weekend. That kid is moving, putting balls into teeny teeny windows. There is something to be saved for first round picks, something to be said for first round picks. It's time for this week's player I thought might give almost almost anything to redo as game brought to you by Uber Eats. Kirk Cousins Falcons quarterback who I love. Two interceptions a fumble today and

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love the quarterback position. I talk about it, and for years the one guy I've really supported is Jared Goff, and people have shit on him for years, and I've said he's a much better version of Matt Ryan. And Matt Ryan was a really really good quarterback and an MVP and got to a Super Bowl and probably should have won one if not for one of the great catches Julian Edelman in the history of the sport. He went to Super Bowl. Goff was on a freaking heater

the last two three weeks. I mean, he's twenty two to twenty five, two touchdowns, two hundred and eighty one yards with this when he had Andrew Whitworth and mcvahan in the Rams. And now he's a better version of that because he got more snaps with Detroit. John He is all steak and no sizzle, but is a pure thrower of the football. He's like he is feeling it. He's a guy that's hit. He's like when you know when Steph gets all those hit five straight threes, They're like, Okay,

this stuff is He's unconn just golf. Today was just spin of it. He threw a couple of balls in the coverage. Remember this is Brian Flores, who has befuddled pretty in j. C.

But he is brilliant. Yeah, and their general manager in front officer deserves a lot of credit because it's been good for a long time. The guy guy to a super Bowl with McVeigh. He went through the downturn when he hurd his thumb and McVeigh and him had the weird fallof But when they got down. One thing that happens in Minnesota, when you get down early, it's like, God, are they going to overwhelm the Lions because that place

gets super loud. They've been up when they started the first couple of games and they just kind of boat race you. And that didn't happen today. And I think the Lions like today might be one of their grittiest wins in the last couple of years. But I'm with you. I mean, I think Jared Goff he's a throwback. I mean, there aren't many guys. I mean, he's better than Cousins at this point.

lot better than Goff. Right aller for Penn State. You know, I just don't think you see the flaccos. The elis the philip rivers. So those guys have to master getting rid of the ball, being accurate, knowing the offense, like you have to be perfect. You watch Jordan Love today, he's just kind of free with it doesn't matter, Like, yeah, I think you need to work on the fundamentals a little bit like Jared Goff's fundamentals have to be perfect

because he can't move outside the little radius. And they got so many good players, they got such a great offensive scheme, and it feels when you watch him like this guy has mastered his offense. The timing of the throws, the timing of the throws, and one thing I think he really developed. I remember he got shit on pretty hardcore. That first year with Jeff Fisher and then the divorce with Sean McVay was not pretty right because I kind

of took Sean mcvay's side. I'm like, man, maybe this guy, you know, saying I think I don't remember a guy coming back and going this guy remember when Alex Smith resurrected his career, Like this guy's mentally tough, you know. I think Jared go falls under that. You're like, this guy's got some mental fortitude to play for that coach too, who let's face it, is much more of a tough guy raw Rod, not exactly, you know. I mean that's kind of the style with Detroit. We're gonna out toughya

mentally and physically. And I think, you know, Jared Goff fits that mold perfectly. Flacco did for a long period of time with Baltimore. Just a tough guy. And I think Jared Goff it's not even debatable. I mean, he's just been fan his career. These last couple of years in Detroit. You could argue was more impressive than what he did in La Oh it is because everyone kicked

him to the curb. I saw stat today, like he's the first guy since like Kurt Warner back in his prime, to have three straight games of one hundred and forty plus QBR. I think the other guy's like Peyton Manning over the last twenty five years. Yeah, I mean the numbers over the last three three weeks or eye opening. But their talent that draft colin a couple of years ago where they got Gibbs Laporta. How about Brian Branch

who had a fantastic picked today. He had another one that was called back because the guy stepped out of bounds, but it looked like he returned a touchdown. The impact players they got in that draft to overcome the Hutchinson injury. I was tempted to bet on Detroit, but I was like, that's a pretty huge emotional letdown losing that guy and then they're down ten to nothing. I'm like, glad I

didn't do that. That team is very, very They got a little Ravens and Chiefs like toughness to them, don't they.

lows will be lower. I kind of feel now with Detroit, John I get the exact same game every weekend, the exact same game, dominant O line. And you know it's funny that you think, oh, they'll go out and they'll replace Hutchison, and they made Jacksonville one. Had they lost, I think they had just emptied the roster, perhaps to get more picks. But when I watched that game Detroit Minnesota today, your takeaway had to be these are two of the top four teams in the NFC. I think, yeah, I.

have multiple dominant running backs. I mean, they got one of the more physical guys in Montgomery and Gibbs is I don't know, the young version of Alvin Kamara. I mean, how good is that guy? His speed he had, he had a run to day. He looked like Barry Sanders in the open field, making the guy miss on the

touchdown and then their play caller because it's cohesion. Usually most teams in this scenario that guy has just become a head coach, had a new name filling that spot, and it's usually little Rocky Well, this guy just keeps turning down head coaching jobs and the offense keeps getting better and in that spot today, like it wasn't about trick plays, which they love to pull out. Today was about you got to call big their downs. We're gonna

need big explosive plays and especially down early. And yeah, I mean, I think Dan Campbell is a guy, and rightfully so after that press conference, He's obviously speaks a little different than a lot of these like intellectual offensive guys, even though ironically Dan Campbell is an offensive guy, but he's got a little more harbaught to him, feels a little more offensive defensive lineman. He what the hell's the difference between him and like one of the Harbob brothers.

I mean, this is I understand it's the NFL, so that every team has money and if you draft well, you can turn around. But that's just not the way it works. I mean, there's a reason the Lions always sucked, the Jags always the same teams are always bad. He has turned the Lions into a power. It'd be one thing if it's like, oh it was one year. No, this is like the thing and this is different this year. Everyone's gunning for him, right, Everyone takes some serious. They're not sneaking up on anybody.

that's where the Hutchinson injury. I think you feel even more confident getting aggressive because like this is you look around the league, like, why wouldn't you like Jane Raiders, are you sure? Like you guys are going nowhere? What do you want for Max?

at thirty one. There's a kid, there's some there's some kid offensive tackle. I think Arizona may have one. Go get a tackle, Detroit. They got their tackles, the receivers, a deep threat, two backs, tight end, edge rusher. They don't have needs. I would give up a first rounder for that. And by the way, Hudge comes back, you have two for you have two edge rushers.

Thomas out. This team can't move the ball. But they benched Daniel Jones at the start of the fourth. Jalen Hurts was bad on third down, but sakwon Barkley jammed it right down the Giants throat and John It's one thing if somebody comes back, Johnny Damon comes back to haunt you, you know, if you're a Red Sox fan, this was like the most predictable facial in the league. And I looked at that and I thought, it's gonna

be a bad day. Like it over for Daniel Jones, Like today when they benched him started the fourth, that was just he was kind of like they waved the white flag on Daniel Jones. And probably the season.

feel like the owner wanted it out. And if by the time people are listening this Joe Shane is fired. I just don't see Remember when he was asked and he's like, eh, I don't think the Eagles. I think he's gonna go the Bears and listen, I understand overpaying running backs and it's difficult. But when he went to Philly, I thought the moment when I watched that in the off season, how is he going to have a bad year?

They draft multiple offensive linemen every year. They have arguably the best offensive line coach who Jason Kelsey calls like his father in Jeff Stoutlin. And he's rushing for one hundred plus yards in all these games pretty easily. And when they're semi healthy at wide receiver, like things are going to open up for him. Today when it was like I think he had like six or seven carries for almost twenty yards and they announced, I'm like, I bet he's gonna bust one soon. And then he busts

that fifty yard run and it was on. And it wasn't just Daniel Jones getting benched with ten minutes ago. They also pulled Jalen Hurts for Kenny Pickett. So it's like you're benching your quarterback and they waved the white flag in Saquon Barkley's unbuckling his pads with like seven or eight minutes after he already has one hundred. He

had one hundred and seventy five yards and three quarters. Colinn, Yeah, I just think that unless I understand they have injuries and like you said, without Andrew Thomas, the Eagles who have struggled to get a pass rush. They were in the backfield on Daniel Jones every single play. They had guys coming from every angle. He had no shot that one. The owner said it, I don't know if I could sleep.

He's arm most popular player, he's our best player, and now he's I mean, that's a team that's loaded with talent, and what Saquon second or third best player on their team on given games, he's their best player. To do that to you at home, to just embarrass you. What is what is the papers? I guess it's more of the internet now. How people consume that the local talk shows they are the local television. What are they gonna say tomorrow? How does Joe Shane Ryan David I actually

think has done a pretty good job. So he's transitioned to the offensive coordinator, Like guys get his quarterback is atrocious. I mean, that guy is just he's just he can't play. And I would imagine Drew Locke will just be the quarterback and see if they can give him a spark. But well, it's a one for the GM. Colin.

left tackle. I like Malake Neighbors, Dexter Lawrence Thibodeau that there's some players here, but it doesn't matter. You have I mean, listen, people are getting bigger and stronger. You watch the you watch the Chiefs and the Niners today, like eight players left the game. People get hurt. You have to have a difference maker at quarterback that can overcome these injuries. And Daniel Jones is the classic example. He needs everything right. The minute you take Andrew Thomas

left tackle out, it's over. It's just over. He can't do it. And again, listen, I watched Mahomes get blown out in the Super Bowl without his left tackle. But I think you, I think the Giants just have to start over. I think they have some nice defensive pieces. I think they have to start over. And I think I think you just have to go. I mean Daniel Jones, I don't. I don't think he has a market. Maybe a sixth round pick, a fifth round pick. Does he have a market?

With Sakwan Barkley, a high character, great guy. Every kid, every dad buying their kid a jersey, feels great about it. And he's just an elite player. I mean, you watch him on that Eagles team. He's going to be a big reason that they're not the most cohesive operation right now. With their head coach and that guy, I mean, they're going to end up winning. The problem for the Giants is you remove a couple of years ago when they

made the playoffs at nine and eight. So it's not like they made the playoffs with eleven or twelve wins. I mean, they won nine games. It was one of the great coaching jobs ever. They have been awful since they fired Tom Coughlin. I mean, and even those last couple years of Tom they were bad. That they have been really bad for a long time now. And you got Washington, who I know they played Carolina today, but that team's gonna win ten games.

guy's the first round pick. So but I was talking to an executive this week and he said this is the year to be bad and trade down. He goes, he said, this is not a good group. He said. The quarterbacks are at big programs, Georgia, Texas, Notre Dame. He said, they're not first round quarterbacks.

let it rip. I really like washing him play. But I feel like I watched the same team. Is that they're close, right coach, right quarterback, right O line, nice weapons, not quite mature up. There's somebody in the way Detroit. There's somebody in the way Kansas City. But there was an interesting moment in this game where late Houston Demiko Ryans settled for a field goal and they didn't force Green Bay to burn timeouts. And I thought, well, Demiko's

a defensive coach. You just you got to bake that in. These guys aren't going to go for it. But as I watched this game, I thought, these guys are not good enough to hoist a trophy. But if you told me over the next four years, because the quarterbacks, I think, potentially with the right weapons are in that Jared golf slightly above that class. Green Bay's now five and two, Houston five and two. I felt like I'm watching two

great franchises. After this year, they'll both be in the super Bowl bubble for about six straight years.

hitting the guy in stride. Where you go? Is this guy gonna go seventy yards the other way? I mean today he threw two picks, one got returned I think to the eleven yard line. They had a muffed punt that led to a fumble. Like that, I thought Green Bay. I mean CJ's trout even throw for one hundred yards. No, they were not very good on offense, and two of their touchdowns definitely one of them came on the muff, obviously mixing having him back Nico Collins. It turns out

as like they're Terrell Owens. You take him out of their offense, they kind of fall apart. But Demko's so good on offense or as a defensive coordinator, creates pressure and just create some havoc. They got to settle this guy down, that being Jordan Love in terms of even Laflora made a comment after the game about like, you guys keep pushing this far of narrative. Well, yeah, he keeps throwing the ball to the other team, but he's remarkable when he's throwing three or four touchdowns every game,

and in your offense. Their offense, it doesn't have the name recognition of like Saint Brown, Montgomery, Gibbs Laporta, but you watch them, you're like, that receiver's good. That receiver's good. Yeah, news tight end's good. You're like, I've known Josh Jacobs is good for a while. That their offensive weaponry, And think about this Colin. They're not going to be intimidated by Detroit. They're going to know each other really well.

It's kind of like a Niners rams from a couple of years ago, so I I and honestly, I've always said this, They're actually better off not winning the division because the way they want to play on offense, go into the dome, Okay, let's play a thirty five to thirty game, because you can't play that at Green Bay in the middle of January. It was always the downfall of Rogers teams. They have these great offenses and then they play some of these home games. It's like no

one can feel their hands. So why the Chiefs are like, yeah, we can play a negative twenty. Now we only need eighteen points to win the game. Yeah. And now I think their defense, this Halfleay guy that they got from Boston College, it feels like he's kind of settling down. They look a lot better, much to the team speeds better. He's blitzing at the right times. I mean, their defense has been pretty atrocious over the going back to McCarthy and then early on with you know, the Joe Barry

run with Lafour. I'm not saying it's gonna like completely turn the corner, but I feel a little more comfortable with it. I mean, today you hold c. J. Stroud, he still has take Dell out there, Diggs is out there mixing's back Shultz. I mean they got enough firepower that he should be able to score for you know, for over one hundred and fifty yards. And it was a beautiful day. It wasn't like twenty degrees at Green Bay.

It looked like it was eighty degrees outside. Even the announcers like, this doesn't get any better than this.

you're watching them play. Remember that was he throw a late pick in the Niner game, Yes, you know, to end that game. That's the thing that makes me nervous. It's not like golf can't do that right now, He's not really throwing the ball in harms way. Well, where Jordan Love is throwing the ball in harms way a lot. Well.

Like Lafleur is like, I got an artist here. I can't box him in. I gotta let him do some of his stuff. You know, one of the throws that Love likes to do and it feels like they're almost all picked or all caught, is when he throws the rainbow ball when he's backing up and he holds it too long and he just throws a rainbow and I'm like, he's gonna work himself out of that. Those won't last. And because that, like he does that like four times a game.

years going back to high school. You look at some of these quarterbacks, the amount of snaps they've taken. Jordan Love just sat there for three years, and there gets to a point like obviously he needed to work on his fundamentals and everything as a project, but there gets a point where you're just not playing at all, and then he gets thrust into it. We saw last year. It took him a little while. Then he gets injured this year, so maybe by the second half of the

season they can rain him in. I think They're offense is like an unnamed I mean, the Packers fans know them, but just you know, people that play fantasy, but they don't have like superstar name recognition. Yet some of these guys might turn into that by the end of the year. They might just be the same as the Lions, just in terms of their firepower. And it's not actually kind of different because of his deep ball ability. I mean, that guy at any moment can fling at fifty sixty yards.

for details. Okay, so I want to talk Georgia Texas. So Georgia beat Texas thirty to fifteen. Again, Georgia couldn't do anything offensively and they beat Texas. So my big takeaway on this was Carson Beck is no longer a first round quarterback, Like it's just.

these big games over the last six years. Georgia was totally ready for the moment. Texas has been in about three of these, two or three was sark. I don't think they were ready. They were atrocious on third down. They couldn't run the football a quinn Ewers, I thought, I still think because of his arm, he'll get drafted somewhere in the first round. Somebody will think they can

solve him. But I kind of I mean, Texas average with the best offensive line in college football three point four yards of play when I watched that game, and by the way outside, I mean, Oregon had two bad games and one Ohio State lost, but I didn't think played poorly. Bamas had a stinker, George's had a stinker. Texas has had a stinker. This is why I have a twelve game playoff. This is I mean, I think Ohio State to me is the most consistently good team,

whereas Oregon got Ohio State at home. You gotta be careful label terrible against Boise State and terrible against Idaho. I kind of look at this Texas game and I think this is just one of those games that Georgia's been in. I mean, it's just they've been in this game six years, probably three games a year like this.

he's a crazy defensive guy. I mean, we've seen it on the sideline, but he's a former safety. He's a tough guy. And usually quarterbacks like they're just not super angry all the time, sarks, more intellectual, always more offense. This was a game, and Kirby said it after the game, like we didn't come here to take pictures and do all the superstar bs. Well, what happened in that game. It was all about the line of scrimmage where Texas actually has, you know, supposedly a bunch of NFL guys.

They had seven sacks and it felt like they had twenty five pressures and that can you imagine how on edge Kirby was all week with just the defensive side of the ball and the way you can't to me, you can't manipulate that stuff. I've been in these buildings like the head coaches personnel. It is what it is. You either have the crazy listen, Andy, He's not like, you know, coming with an iron fist on everybody, but

he does create toughness with the way he practices. So the offensive guys historically, you know, Lincoln laying that they're just not not doing Oklahoma drills like at the at a moment's notice, the Saban types, the Kirby types will just blow a whistle. Maybe not as much anymore, but that personality of a practice, you can't fake that stuff. And you could tell from the jump You're like, Georgia

is out for blood. This is a team. All they've heard about is everyone put in Texas who's new to the SEC and they they run it now, and Kirby looks around and goes, that is not happening on my watch. And they came. They destroyed them upfront. I mean that Walker kid, I mean he had three sacks, he was

all over the backfield. But to have seven sacks and even Arch came in, you could tell I was listen, I had money on Georgia, but I then started feeling I was rooting for Arch and right away I'm like, hey, he looks a little overwhelmed. Yeah, because this is a lot Quinn, youwrers just isn't good enough. Like to me, Carson Back is a third day pick, and I don't you know, part of a quarterback is the character and stuff. I know nothing about that, but just as a player, yeah,

I just don't think he's that good. Same but Kirby Smart would go, I've won national championships with third day picks before you ever heard sets have been at and went back to backs with that guy. Yeah, so I'm the Sabans and him are comfortable playing with that. Or if you look at Sark, what did they have invested in their quarterback room between the two guys you wers in Arch five million dollars? Yeah, you know, I mean

whatever they're paying Carson Back. Kirby's like, yeah, that's probably too much because he wants to run the ball and play defense.

you once a year. And because these two teams, there's a better than fifty percent chance they'll play again, and the final four in the final right right. So it's like to me, as I watched it, I thought, Okay, if Texas outplayed them and lost, it would be hard to go back and say, hey, guys, you got to play a perfect game. Texas was Hugh milliated at home, and I mean, I'm writing down these numbers. They were two for fifteen on third down, they had d nine

rushing yards. They got their butt hand to do them at home. And my take was, in a weird way, we've talked about March madness before. These Kansas teams. You know, you'll play a really good team out of conference, and it's like, no, it's okay to get your butt handed in December, because in March you can put the tape back into your team and say, remember this team that knocked you out.

to be because upfront they just smother you. But both quarterbacks, if you're playing another good team, could lose to anybody because yours when he's bad, feel he just felt awful, Like it felt like unplayable. I mean everyone was thinking it on their couch, Like Sark, you got to go to the bullpen. It was that clear to him, which could not have been an easy thing to do. Now, granted it's it's a unique situation with Archie's not like your typical high recruit because he goes right back to yours.

But he had no choice, Like he was playing a losing football game. Carson Beck kind of was too. Yeah, so in these big games against other good teams, like you could lose it. Will Howard actually not watching that

game against Oregon, you know, we'll see how he could. Yeah, I thought though too, But like what if he has a bad game, Like all these teams, we'll see Dylan Gabriel, who's probably you know, has the best statistics of all these guys, but like you don't have the faith like a Joe Burrow, right, or one of those level guys that like, no matter what, he's going to make a play at any moment in the in the final eight, the final four, these guys could have a bad game

and it could cost their team. I'm not confident in any of these teams, Like I think they're all going to be there, it's pretty clear who's going to be the last six to seven teams stand in right now, right who the best teams are Oregon obviously, Georgia, Texas, Ohio State like, and then a couple more we could

nitpick from like five or Tennis. Maybe their quarterbacks even Tennessee, like their quarter back at any moment could throw the game, like all these guys, Patrick Mahomes, Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen. That is not the version of guy Chador. I would have the most confidence. But they blew that Kansas State game, They're probably not going to get in. Their team wouldn't be good enough, Like they'd have no chance to block

Tennessee or Georgia. But like, if you put Shador like the way he's playing on one of these teams, I would have a lot more confidence. I can't just with a straight face pick Georgia to win the Natty. I don't trust the quarterback Quinn yours Like, I don't think he's that good. Yeah right, well, Howard, I will find out as the season goes on. Aller made some great plays against USC, but he's got to do it against you know, He's got to do it more than one time.

He's only done it one time in his career. So I think that's the biggest question mark, you know, with all the top teams in college football, is like their quarterback, do they get overwhelmed in a game? Throw three or four? Both those quarterbacks could have thrown like five picks each. I mean their balls were bouncing off the other color

jersey countless times. They looked overwhelmed. They really did, even Carson Beck, who was just I had someone text me that he's like, I don't remember a guy because there was a lot of media hype that the NFL hype, Yes, he he's a first round Remember a guy losing millions this fast? I mean it's we're not even to Halloween and everyone's like, oh, can't draft this guy high.

and so young. They can't, like, they can't put together like a twelve play drive to seal wins. They had Penn State beat, they had Maryland beat, they had Minnesota. They never felt like they were in control. But it's But it's interesting about this is that I was talking to somebody very close to USC and he said, listen, he's got a Jimbo Fisher deal US. He's not writing seventy million dollar checks and they're not getting rid of him.

But there's been this feeling since he's been there in the administration that he has a lot more control over USC than USC has over him. In fact, they're building this big facility now three hundred million dollars because it's in his contract, and if they don't build it, he can leave. But it is interesting. I actually think they have some really really good line talent. They're just all red shirting and they're young. But what's happening with us,

he's fascinating. They're not recruiting California. If you go look at the rivals take rivals for instance, or on three these recruiting sites and you go to the top forty players in Southern California. In this class, I've got like three guys. It's like Bama, Oregon, Bama, Ohio State, Oregon, A and M and M Louisville, Alabama. And there is

something about college football. It's very territory. John. You can lose, but if you're not in Ohio State, you just have to take a three star linebacker occasionally because he's an Ohio kid. You just have to do it. You got to take the tight end who's a three star. He's from a big high school program. Locally, there may be a three star Florida kid, but you're going to have to do certain things. You know, Ohio is proud of Ohio.

LA is very transient, doesn't really care about that. But I'm hearing it now from two and three different people, Like he's just not connecting with LA coaches. And it's like, can you imagine Kirby Smart doing most of his recruiting in Texas? Like there is something about Lincoln. There's this sense that he's aloof He's not necessarily relatable. He can be off putting. He you know, he just it's not just the losing. Once you start losing people put a

microscope on your program. Now you have losing. He's not really going. He doesn't want boosters, right, Like that was the undoing for Chip Kelly. You're not winning and you don't take care of the donors and boosters. Do you think today, if us he could just.

I mean, you look at the best coaches over the last I don't know, several decades on the West Coast, Jeff Tedford, where's he from California? Chris Peterson, where'd he coach? Boise State, Washington? Where'd he grow up? California? Went to UC Davis. Mike Polatti? Where is he from? West Coast? Chip Kelly? There are outliers Urban went to the South Chip Kelly, who's the northeast came to Oregon. But I I think for Kirby Smart, like why does he work in the SEC? I wonder you know Nick sab in

West Virginia. To me, pretty similar, there's a lot of success. You see it right now with Debor. He's gonna get a lot of heat. He's not one of theirs. And I think the USC thing Coln they're one and four in the Big Ten. It's to me the Penn State thing. That's an awful tough loss to take, but it's still

Penn State. They're really good. When you start losing the Minnesota in Maryland, especially the way the stat I was gonna read it to you, they've, like you said, they've held a lead in all in every game they've played this year, and over the last twenty years, two hundred teams have had a fourth quarter lead in all of their first seven games. Only one other team during that span has had a losing record. So they're like a statistical anomaly. To lose all these games. Yesterday was insane.

I mean they're up twenty eight to fourteen in the fourth quarter. I mean, how does that it just And this gets back to like Sark has way better talent. But you can't fake being a tough guy when you're not. Like Dan Campbell's a tough guy. The Hardball Brothers are tough guys. Tomlin's a tough guy. Vrabel's a tough guy. Belichick could manipulate it like through mind games and the

type guys he surrounded himself with. I'm not saying he's gonna win a fistfight, but you'd also say Belichick's pretty mentally tough, right, I mean, he's not easy to break. And I just think I look at Lincoln and I go, I just don't see a tough guy. And they've gotten into these spots, especially on the road. These are not You're not going to Oregon State, right or Arizona State where it's an easy flight. These are long as how

long is the flight to Maryland. It's a five hour flight? Yeah, right, You going to Minnesota that's probably four and a half hours. These are tough travels and they just mentally crumble. And I never thought one. I thought he was a really good coach, so I understood why they wanted him. LSU wanted him to the gave one hundred and twenty.

with the Baker teams. They were scoring a ton of points. But Colin, they're their schedule is not crazy hard. But you go like seven and five, seven and five, this is.

playing they're both playing nuss Meyer and Miller Moss. It's not like he's got Jayden Daniels and Kayleb Williams anymore. And I don't know, man, I think you go back. Let's just look at those two guys. Brian Kelly has a long resume. You could put him anywhere and he'll figure it out. Lincoln did inherit Oklahoma, which at the time was humming. I mean they were a lot like Chip Kelly in Oregon. It wasn't top two every year, but they were top eighteen, fifteen every year. You just

had to take that next step. That's an easier thing to do than just, hey, here's a shit sandwich, Nick Saban, what Brian Kelly get me? Just eleven wins every year? That's really difficult and normally what Urban can do, there's a short list of guys that can do that. Even though if Lincoln's a really good coach, I just think he fits more. I don't know, like some big twelve team. I just think that's the way he wants to play. Fig ten has been very, very difficult on him and

it's way harder travel like, they're like traveling like NFL teams. Yes, conference play, you're flying four hours, five hours. That never happened in the history of these programs.

State room. It's about thirteen. I was telling somebody this weekend, who's really close. I said, there's three or four positions you buy in the nil quarterback, left tackle, edge rusher. You'll find receivers. I mean, they have an okay quarterback, left tackle, they're playing a freshman. They don't have an elite edge rusher. It's like Lincoln, don't buy corners. You know this is La. People run. You can get backs, corners, receiver, you can get those guys. You don't pay tight ends

in the transfer portal. You don't pay guards and the transfer portal, you know they have an offensive and a d defence at Lineman from Wyoming and both start. It's like, what are we doing here?

But to me, how do they build momentum in recruiting if he's not mister pizzazz like, so that's not his thing. Their team's not as good Oregon, Ohio State, I mean, Alabama in Oklahoma, these other programs for years have been coming into Southern California, as USC has kind of, you know, been in the middle ground. Not you see the numbers that Clay Helton through his first thirty four games and Lincoln Riley he has a better record. I just think this thing is headed towards one now. There's so much

money in the line. I don't know why if Lincoln like why you just give a divorce. But he's got to be kind of miserable. This can't be a natural fit living on the beach, like he does not feel like that guy he did. I think Lane would have no problem doing it again, like it's yeah, this is not it does not feel when you look at Lincoln Riley, the comfortability in the colors and the clothes, and it's obviously not working because one in four in the Big Ten.

It's one thing if you had lost to Ohio State, Penn State. I mean they are losing to awful teams like Maryland just should never have won that game.

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