Colin Cowherd Podcast - Nick Wright Part 2: J.D. Vance, Olympic Boxing Controversy, Internet “Experts”, Conspiracy Theories

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She wasn't pointing angry and she was smiling. Made me feel good. And they are like important political accounts like Colin Cowherd says, why Kamala Harris is gonna win the election? So they're so happy about it. It just it delights me every time I see it. But go ahead, So I didn't mean to interrupt you, but I'm excited where this is going to go. So so it was first.

a company. When you hard sell me, same with a car, I'll walk in, I'll tell you what I like. I'm quick cut to the chase, get me the contract. So you know they're they're the Conservatives are trying to Vice presidents don't decide elections. They can hurt you. They like baseball managers. They don't win many games. They can lose your games if they lose the locker room. So so Kamala's vice president Tim Walls, he not gonna it doesn't really matter because he'll just get out of the way.

He's a high school football coach. He was well liked. He's not deciding this thing. They do appear to really like each other.

pissing off Dustin Pedroia. And he was gone like thirty games later.

in the public eye for a long time. And you can come around on things, you can change positions, but you can't write a book about the opioid epidemic and then call Donald Trump and opiate and opioid as a slur about how this is how bad it is. It ruined my family, ruined my area. He say to people, he reminds you of Hitler, and change enough to where you're like, I want to be his vice president. Nobody

changes that much like that the end. But so his heat what he has done super successfully is navigate from you know, a guy who wrote a book that people liked to up until the day Biden dropped out the overwhelming likely vice next vice president of the United States. He navigated that in an incredibly short period of time because his true north was what do I need to say and do to achieve the next rung of power?

And it has worked, but more often than not, at some point that bill comes due, and that bill is coming due right now because the guy can't make it, can't do anything on instinct. Everything's like, wait, what am I supposed to do in this spot? And so there's so every time he talks, it's like, why'd you say that? Like today, some local reporter has said to him, some friendly local reporter was like, you know, one of the things you're criticized about is that you don't smile in them.

What is something that makes you smile? And the answer to that question is literally anything my kids, a baseball game, the flag of the United States. And his answer was, well, I smile when I laugh at ridiculous questions like that from the fake media. And I'm like, that's not what you wanted to say, buddy, but you think that's what you're supposed to say. And so yeah, I mean I think I think in general, like when you're not able to have at least something of a consistent like. I

understand all politicians pander and change positions. I get that, but this is such a dramatic turn of events. He seems like a different person. The other thing on the first thing you said about the reason he's in real trouble is the comment about childless women. And this is I will admit I'm about to say something overtly political. Okay, so this is one of my biggest problems with the

so many of our super conservative politicians. I actually don't know how much they truly understand about how babies are made and the human reproductive system and all of it. Because jd Vance would tell you I was talking about people that don't want to have children, and I think that's bullshit. I think that if you're choosing not to have kids, you're not as important of a citizen someone that wants to start a family. I think he truly

believes that. Fine, whatever, I think that's wrong, but at least I can get he's like, you have more of an investment. But it's such a fundamental misunderstanding that so many people and families desperately want to have kids and the biggest tragedies of their life are that they haven't been able to or I mean, I will all tell something very personal because she shared it publicly. My sister had a child and everything was fine, seemingly with my nephew.

Everything is fine with my nephew, but everything is fine with the pregnancy, and then over the next four years had four of the most excruciating miscarriages anyone can imagine, and then had basically a miracle baby who's now my niece. There are so many women out there that the biggest tragedy of their lives is through no fault of their own. Yes, they can't have kids, right then this guy is. And the reason I said, I don't think they know how

babies are made. That's a little tongue in cheek, But my point is if you have that at all in your consciousness, that oh wait, there's a lot of people that want to have kids that are struggling having kids, then you'd be more careful with your words. You wouldn't say things like childless women. You would find a way to make your point, which is essentially that people that have decided I want to be lifelong bachelor or I

want to be lifelong single. Is the point you're really trying to make that you don't think they have as much skin in the game as someone who has kids and grandkids. And again, I don't know that I agree with that take, but that to take that you can at least defend. But when you just flippantly throw this stuff out there, it's like, man, there's people are understanding, people that want to root for you and vote for you, are gonna say you're saying I count less. I voted

for Trump twice, not me. I'm this theoretical person, and because I can't have a baby, I count like, like that's going to cost you. And you said, you know, I think that if this had happened three months ago, he would have changed his mind. But I think Trump's in a weird spot because he can't kick jd off the ticket after he made fun of Biden for dropping out, Like, man, this is a quit. Last twenty days is a pretty quick turnaround. As far as the odds now, we're a

long ways out. A lot can change. But I felt like Trump was Some of my friends in the high stakes gambling community, the poker players.

the preseason. Sean McVay newted it when he didn't play anybody and went ate to no to start the season. So the truth is, I like people, even if they're not particularly gifted orders or they're not pundits. I'm interested in different I like different political opinions. I've said this before. Fans call sports radio shows. On average, they're dreadful, they're repetitive,

they have nothing creative to say. But but there is value if you're doing I do a simulcast, but if you do strictly a radio broadcast of having the occasional argumentative call, the call that's absurdly wrong. I mean it's it was Mike and the Mad Dog. Like some of the funniest moments are just idiotic calls. You know, it is part of the theater. So I like, I don't I like people to have different opinions. I glean all sorts of information. You don't have to be an expert.

I mean, I've said before football coaches have acknowledged, like, you know, a fan, Andy Reid's like, a fan sent me a play.

just you know, it's strategy. That's fine. What I don't love is if someone does talk about it and clearly is afraid to be honest about how they feel, Like so I stay out of One of the reasons I rarely talk about this is because I'm not a moderate. I don't pretend to be like I like I my politics are. I think some people consider I'm extreme. That's fine, but I'm not gonna I'm not going to all of a sudden act like, well, you know, up until you know,

a couple months before, I was undecided. I you know, no, I wasn't like I sorry, my dog's were being annoying, like I wasn't undecided. And in my lifetime since I've been you know, old enough to vote, I've voted Democrat every election. So if I'm going to talk about it, I'm gonna be honest with you know, with folks about where I stand on it.

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nobody cares. And you didn't care about China an hour before this. So like, people talk about the transgender stuff, and my take is, you don't really care about that. I don't know much about it and you don't care about it, and it doesn't move. Yeah, so it doesn't do that.

was a fascinating listen. And so if I'm not an expert on something, if it's murky or it's bureaucracy, and I don't, it's not.

I checked Twitter. I see what everybody sees. Some people are like, a man beat up a woman and she cried. Some people are like, what do you see This woman's loses all the time in boxing and was born a woman. Here's a picture of her as a kid. And some people were like, no, she's she's switched sex at birth. And then people are like, no, they're not at birth, pardon me, And then it'd be like, hmm, okay, well I'm certainly not gonna get to the bottom of this

story in the next half hour. Luckily it's women's boxing at the Olympics, which was not gonna be in the rundown. Ever, it was not you know, somebody beat uh gad, I'm sorry, are Simone Biles? And you know in something we were talking about, it's not something involving the men's basketball team. We were never gonna talk about the women's boxing the Olympics. Ever, it was not in the zeitgeist. It's not like the audience like, oh, you promised us that tomorrow you're gonna

break down the match. Now you're afraid of it. So why don't I give this a few hours and see what the actual information is and then decide if I want to talk about it tomorrow or the next day. And then I did, and I'm like, God, damn man, this thing's complicated, like definitely not a transgender issue at all. But also, if I'm to believe the Russian Boxing Federation, which by the way, I don't believe, but it seems to be compelling evidence she might have been born DSD.

A little confused, but it also seems like so so wait, so she definitely woman, been a woman in her whole life, by the way, from a conservative Muslim nation where transgender is not a thing because not allowed. But did she have a physical advantage? Oh okay, I get that argument, all right. I now have the information, still a little confused. Luckily, I'm under no obligation to talk about this because again, it's the quarterfinals of the women's boxing at the Olympics,

so we'll just let this one pass. And the amount of people that were like prominent people that were like, well, it's fucking showing up on Elon Musk's propaganda machine, so it must be the story to talk about. So I'm going to on the front and be like, I don't know what I'm talking about, but let's talk about it,

like what are you doing? What are you doing? Like what you and the reason, like you said, the reason folks I believe talked about that knowing they didn't know anything was because they didn't want people to tweet to them. You're afraid to talk about it. They didn't. They were trying to get out in front of And I'm going to say one other thing on this, because it's the justification a lot that certain folks make when they talk about stuff before they have all the information or they're wrong.

Is listen I say on the front end, I don't know everything. You know, it's kind of casual, I'm not that bright whatever. It is. Always be leary of folks who every time they make one of those mistakes is slanted in the same direction. Right, if you're just a dumb guy, that's just like hey, we're just talking. Then you'll make mistakes in both directions. Then sometimes you'll say something that is wildly wrong on the conservative side, and sometimes you'll say things that are wildly wrong on the

liberal side. Sometimes you'll say things wildly wrong on you know, the the you'll vary your mistakes. In my experience, what tends to happen is folks consistently make this mistake slanted in the same direction of the people yelling at them on the internet, and then they're like, well, I told you, I'm not that bright, Like, eh, I don't know, seem bright enough to never make the mistake in the other direction. So in some certain things you're okay on So yeah,

I was. I called demandse my son, who I do the podcast with that night. I was like, man, I was like, we should be proud of the podcast we did today. He's like why. I was like, because we didn't make the mistake so many people made, which is talk about a serious, real life issue that by the way, that's a real human being that has to go back to her country all of it when we had none of the information, just because Twitter was yelling at us to do it. Well, it's.

ducking anything, I said Joe. During COVID, I watched people who work to check out at Costco lecturing doctor Fauci on vaccines, like that's embarrassing, Like I don't know everything. It saved lives. It could have come from a lab. I don't know. And I told him in regards to this, I said, I have to trust the IOC. They have medical boards. I said, these governing bodies on these incredibly

difficult situations. It's not like the same decision you had deciding where to put the restrooms in a stadium, Like it's not. They literally spent hours, days, weeks knowing this would be difficult, and at some point success matters. Fauci's history matters. Sick Mark Cuban successful, he knows more than you and me on business, like the Olympic Committee didn't just haphazard least, Hey, what do you think let's flip a coin.

I've done it my whole career. I'm I think i'm, you know, almost an expert, if not an expert in sports history and you know, data and information and I oddly I am not an expert, but I know way more than the average person about American history, most notably from the beginning of the Civil War to the passage of the Civil Rights Act because that one hundred years, I've really studied other stuff, you know, I just know

what I know. Folks that somehow on every hot button issue have it clocked like, oh, you're full of shit, Like there's no chance you have the informed opinion on the origin of COVID, how vaccines are made, chromosoonal issues in regards to transgenderism. Those three topics have nothing to do with each other. You got them all down, Like, that's a very unique set of skills you're dealing with here.

And by the way, you also seem to, you know, dabble when necessary in you know the best ways to put down social unrest within a city if there's a riot. You know that one who the next vice president of the United States should be picked based on electoral maps? You know that one. Like you're all phony experts, you're all you all are just so coughing. You know this.

is in front of us than ever before. And people studies have shown that are conspiracy theorists tend to need answers. They're not as culturally irrelevant, they're not as socioeconomically relevant, they're not as popular as they think they deserve, and so they need answers. So they say, well, this is why this is happening. It's rigged, not even elections. Just so what you're finding, there's an explosion of conspiracy theories and they're by people that want simple answers that things

changed and they can't explain it. And I mean, they're doing studies on conspiracy theories. Why are they exploding? And it's because tech has I mean, good God, in my business. In the last three years, the whole fucking thing has turned upside down. My whole business, I mean, podcasts didn't exist. Now I own a company. You know that's a podcast company. I mean, the whole world's changed. Radio and cable TV,

my favorites, they're regressing fast quickly. So again it's what I have gotten to a point where the conspiracy theory guy is it's like sports fan every time their team loses, says, well it was rigged, or it's the officials. I just don't have time, like I just I know people Joe Rogan, but it's like Joe, not everything is a conspiracy.

than I otherwise would be. What I'm not fine with is people that I know to be dumb pretending they have figured out super complicated issues. I'm just not okay with it. And you mentioned and I'm not listen. I'm not trying to shit talk Joe Rogan. But I saw, you know, the clips from his last stand up, the one that just came out, Yeah, and I'm like, man, this is the guy. This guy is the one that

is shaping public opinion on really important things. The guy that thought it was on the board that the State of the Union was a taped speech because he hadn't quite figured out the entire Congress, including two hundred and fifty Republicans, are there standing or booing or clapping. That guy's a thought leader on everything. By the way, Joe Rogan definitively thought leader and deserved on UFC stuff, how to build a popular podcast, maybe number one draft pick

in the world on those two topics. You don't get to be the thought leader on every topic. I mean, I guess you do, but you're not going to be incredible. And that's why that's why to bring it back to where you started on this, I don't get there are so many times people are like, you're afraid to talk about and the answer is no, I, who have a pretty big ego, have the humility to know, Man, there's people that know a hell of a lot more about

this than me. I'm gonna let them figure it out, at least the beginning parts of it before I form my opinion. And it's so hard right now for folks to a agree on what a trusted sources in order to get the data to form an opinion. And it's so hard for people to say, man, that one's hard, that one's complicated. Nobody wants nothing. For some reason, nothing's

allowed to be complicated. Like I again, I will. I'm gonna wade into really murky ground, but I'm going to go ahead and say it, and I'm not afraid to. I think basically all foreign wars are complicated, and I haven't dedicated my life to figuring that out. I know some people have. And I'm a really smart guy. I don't know much about a lot of the rest of

the world. I know nothing about warfare. And the number of people who just confidently say no, this is black and white and simple, and here's how you fix it, Like here's how you fix it, Like, man, if it was that easily fixable, I think it had been fixed. Like I'm not acting like nothing is simple, But the amount of people that just rush to this super complicated issue that multiple PhDs are trying to figure out I solved during my lunch break, I just don't buy. I

just don't trust those people. I just don't trust those people. I mean, I don't think they should be taken seriously.

I fly to Chicago. But my my history books are documentaries and i'll watch two, like like, i'll watch two or three on a Saturday before I go out.

is I love that podcast. But during football season, I can't even listen to that during football because during football season there's so much watching a football, consuming football information, doing all this stuff and then those other six months a year, I can try to become a well rounded human being. But you know, I only got a month left because then football's coming again.

you are trying. You are trying to buy who could buy the globe first, who could win the global race because we'd maxed out on domestic subscribers, and so all of them blew through their budgets only none of them, even Netflix for a long time didn't make any money. And eventually they're like, okay, the subs are we've kind of reached we've reached mass consumption. And they looked at their books and said, shit, we've got to clean these up. All of them did, outside of Netflix. They all had to.

So they decided to strike during the football season, saying this is the time that nobody we lose subs. We're not going to do We're not going to do heavy production during this time. We're just going to rerun a lot of our stuff because this is the time of the year that the people to watch us don't like sports.

If you do, we just lose men. And then the minute you get close to the end of the football season, they got the strike figured out, They're like, okay, now we have to create new stuff because here come the men and women back into our streaming service. And that was my you.

but and and if someone's like, what's that based on him? Like, my gut, it makes sense. I know enough about Bill and Dak and the salary cap that it's plausible, and I just think it makes sense. But if you were to really push me on it, like well, or have you talked to anyone? No? Of course not. Have you do you know Bill? No? Do you know Dak? No? Do you know the mar family? No? I just it's my gut feeling. So really I don't know anything, but it makes sense and I and I truly think it's

gonna happen. What I wouldn't do is be like, here's why the vaccine was a fraud. It's like, oh, wasn't it. Have you studied this?

and ESPN two was in Wimbledon. I was filling in for you because it's fourth of July and the biggest story in the sports world. I'm the only person you know. I'm We're the only network doing it, and I it's my second time ever filling in for you, and I still to this day, I think that day changed my whole career. The Herd popped a huge number. I handled it well and whatever. That day on the air, on the air, biggest day of my career. I floated the idea that what if this is just a double cross

Kevin Durant was doing. This has been lost to the history, which was because when because Durant couldn't sign yet, he could just verbally commit, but in order to do that, the Warriors had to let Harrison Barnes leave. And I was like, what if Durant is actually planning on staying with Oklahoma City but they just blew a three to one lead to Golden State, and he wants to make

them worse, so he tells them I'm coming. They let Harrison Barnes leave, and then on July seventh, when he can sign, he does the ultimate villain move, which is like, I'm not going anywhere. I'm staying with the Thunder. To this day, it's one of my favorite sports theories ever. It was totally ridiculous. It had no chance. He wrote an article for the What Have the Players Tribune, but I really believed. I was like, I know, legally he

can do this. It would be an amazing thing. And I talked about it on the air thirty minutes after he signed with the Warriors. I was like, unless it was just wacky, goofy stuff, fun, but it's sports, so gives a ship like it's totally fine. That's why our job's the best.