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terms and responsible gaming resources. What an S show was that by Philadelphia. So I went three and two on my playoff picks. But I thought Philadelphia, you know, it was one of the games. I thought, you know, they'll win. There's not much there with Tampa. This thing. If Tampa Bay could catch in the first half, the game would have been over. Started the second quarter. Philadelphia was not
even competitive. And you know I was thinking about this is that we all know that even competent NFL coaches. Dan Quinn for Atlanta was a competent coach, not great, but competent. He was elevated significantly by Kyle Shanahan. That we know, and there have been a lot of coaches through the years who have been helped by an assistant. They they reached their highest form of head coaching with a really good assistant, But they don't necessarily fall off
the table. I mean Sean McVay, Shanahan. They just run through assistants and coordinators. They're elite coaches. It doesn't affect him. And then the B coaches Dan Quinn are clearly elevated
by an elite coordinator. But Nick Siriani's not an A or a B. He's probably a C or a D. And if you take Shane Steikin's play calling, not Shane steiken just being in the building, just his play calling away from Nick Sirianni, you have a coach that had the most embarrassing opening press conference ever, who struggled in year one when he called the plays, and here in his final year the team got progressively worse. Like Brandon Staley, bad every week. Brandon Staley, good job of climbing the
coaching ladder. He wasn't ready to be a head coach in the National Football League. Nick Sirianni's not. I remember when he first got the job. You know, I said, I call people, And I was talking to a GM tonight about Jedfish going from Arizona to Washington, and I was just asking some questions about recruiting and personnel and blah, blah blah. But I usually do that. I'll call gms, text gms and say, hey, what do you know? What
do you think? And on Sirianni, two of my executive friends said, I don't think he's ready for the job. I don't think he's ready for the Philadelphia Eagles. It's a high pressure, high leverage job. That's a tough job. And so then he butchers the press conference, and I'm like, oh, Jesus, google it. I've never seen anything like it. Go look at Sean mcvay's opening press conference, Kyle Shanahan's, Go look at the young code, Demiko Ryans, I mean, Mike Tomlin's
first press conference. Go look at Nick Sirianni's. And so I had sources say he's not ready. The opening press conference, his first year is ugly. Then he relinquished his play calling, and you think, well, this guy is something, this guy is something here, folks. The truth eventually comes out, and I don't think my problem with Brandon and Staley is my same problem with Nick Sirianni. What does Philadelphia do well? What are the Chargers do well? You went from narrow
losses to touchdown losses to embarrassing losses. It just got worse over time. It's like having a bad boss in any industry. The company gets worse really fast. So I think, you know, you could certainly argue Mike McCarthy as Kellen Moore left, upgraded the cowboy offense. You could argue he's won twelve games, twelve games, twelve games, best dack we've ever seen. You got to keep him. You could certainly
argue Mike Tomlin they lost today. He's Mike Tomley. He's never had a losing season, right, Those are different conversations. But with Brandon Staley and Nick Sirianni, this isn't gonna get better. I mean, this doesn't. I don't see the hope. I don't even know what I watched. And like the Chargers, you have these young coaches who prob had somebody on that resume. For the record, the Eagles were going to
hire Staley until the Chargers did think about that. You know, he had probably somebody on the resume, made a call for him and maybe interviews. Well, but I don't know where you go if you're Philadelphia. Like again, look at the losses in the playoffs. Kevin Stefanski lost, he was on his fourth quarterback. Mike McDaniel lost warm Weather to on the road against Mahomes. Sean McVay lost hell of a game, rebuilding year to begin with. I can look at Mike McCarthy. I mean, the offense was better when
Kellen Moore left. I could make arguments for all the losing coaches. I don't know what to do with this. I don't know what to do with this. It doesn't look like he's read. He can't coach. I mean, what do they do well? And they got personnel, so I mean Troy Aikman said on the broadcast very early he didn't like the body language of Philadelphia. I mean for Troy to say that, go out and say that, it's like, wow, he's seeing something or hearing something. And he was right.
The coaching disparities in these playoffs, man, I know it sounds impulsive and overreactionary to say Sirianni was in the Super Bowl. You know you got to move on. You tell me his theatrics on the sidelines, the regression of Jalen Hurts. I mean Jalen Hurts, justin Herbert. We know they're talented. We've seen it wrong, coach, we know the quarterbacks, the most valuable player in the league and the most
valuable element to a franchise. But if you don't think coaching can puncture quarterback momentum, I give you the Chargers and the Eagles, and this isn't all about Philadelphia. Baker Mayfield went twenty one of thirty five, two touchdowns three hundred and fourteen yards. And I know all of you really do think that I'm rooting against Baker Mayfield. I am not. I've always thought Baker is one of the
top twenty throwers of the football. I think he's matured, I think he got humbled, and I think he has the ability. He throws a very very nice football when he's feeling it, when he's confident, and he has decent protection. When he gets in trouble is when he thinks he's more athletic than he is. He tries to move a little bit more than he should, or he loses confidence, or he's banged up, which he wasn't one hundred percent healthy. But I've said this, I would have no problem with Tampa.
I when I start looking at franchise quarterbacks, there's different levels to them. Baker Mayfield with a chip on his shoulder and a reasonable contract, whatever reasonable is eighteen million a year, twenty four. You can do worse than Baker Mayfield. I mean, I he throws a good football. I think he's a good person. I think being a number one pick thrown into dysfunctional Cleveland would have over a lot
of people. And then eventually he found Kevin Stefanski and by that time his situation in Cleveland had been eroding. Maybe if he would have started with Kevin Stefanski, it would have worked differently. I like Stefanski a lot. I think, you know, getting Joe Flacco into the playoffs this year is fourth quarterback is a testament to Kevin Stefanski. But I think, you know, you can look in the rear view mirror what could have been, what should have been.
But the Cleveland situation was tough for Baker again, Hugh Jackson, they didn't connect, you know, Freddie Kitchens, not a lot of people are going to succeed with that, right, you'd have to be like next level. I mean, even Josh Allen has been in his career, you know, reliant on certain coordinators. And Josh Allen stepped into a situation where the Bills had made the playoffs with Tyrod Taylor, so that wasn't chaos. I think. I think Cleveland for Baker
was just a lot for him to handle. And Cleveland has historically been a lot for I mean, how many great quarterbacks have they had. But Tampa has always had talent. I don't look at Tampa as dysfunctional or chaotic. They've been an interesting franchise. They can never get the quarterback right. So Brady, they got the quarterback right. Baker wins a home playoff game. That feels right to me. So he's won a playoff game in the AFC, in the playoff
game in the NFC. So when Baker has felt supported in his career, when he's had like a number one receiver, you know, I thought tonight, I thought Baker played really well. I mean, Tampa just could not catch the football in the first half or the game would have been over then. So Baker's numbers would have been far better, far more yards had the Bucks had a bad night of catching the football. And so, you know, fit is so essential
for young people. I mean it's important for everybody. But when you're young, get a little money, got a little fame, you get thrown into Cleveland. That just wasn't that easy. There. That's a circus. You got the Steelers, you got the Ravens twice a year. Pretty soon, here's Joe Burrell. That's a lot. And I think Tampa Baker can kind of hide. It's not a high profile organization. He can sort of hide. He gets his good warm weather, you know, Texas, Oklahoma,
he gets some good warm weather. He's got some nice targets, lower expectations. Nobody talks about him being a number one pick. He's got a little bit of a Geno Smith to the Seahawks field, where everybody kind of likes his story and embraces him. I think this is a really really good fit for Baker. And again, Tampa's a winning playoff team. They're not going to have a great opportunity to get one of the top five quarterbacks. I think you roll the dice. I think you're signed kind of a Gino
Smith contract with Baker. You can draft a quarterback, you know, late first round, second. The roster's not bad. They've had some protection issues a little bit. But I'm happy for Baker. I really am. I really am. I think I think you know, I've got between step kids and my biological kids. I got six young people in my life, and I've watched them grow, and I've watched how important fit is, and the better the fit, the happier the person, the faster they grow. I think Tampa and Baker work. You
can hide in Tampa. You know, Cleveland may not win a lot, but it's hard to hide in a division with the Ravens and the Steelers, the number one pick and all the commercials. You can go hide in Tampa. Mobsters used to hide in Tampa, Kansas City and Tampa. You didn't know that, did you? I did. I lived there. A lot of dead mobsters down in Tampa. All right. The playoffs are set next weekend, so we're going to have Detroit and Tampa. I like Detroit. San Francisco, Green Bay.
I like San Francisco, but that line nine and a half, I'm not giving Green Bay nine and a half points. That's too lethal of an offense. In the AFC, the Texans, I think their season will end facing a superior team with a lot of experience in the Ravens, and then Buffalo hosts Kansas City. Buffalo lost a linebacker. I think I like the Bills. I think it's narrow. That's a tough one. I have to let that bake. I really
like this version of the Bills. I know when they lost that game to Philly, everybody bailed and I'm like, Nope, their twitch year, They're faster, they're less reliant in Josh Allen. I like these Bills. I think I'll take Buffalo to beat Kansas City. Let me think about it, all right. John Middlecoff, former NFL scout Philadelphia Eagles. Buffalo with a decisive lead eventually turns out to be a decisive win. They did lose a linebacker, Terrell Bernard, which I that's
a loss. It's a linebacker, not a quarterback or a rush in. But it's a loss for a team that will for the last couple of years they get banged up. It's a physical team like Baltimore San Francisco. They're rarely at full strength. You know. The one thing I like about Buffalo and in previous years, I thought they're very, very reliant on Josh Allen's superpowers. But Khalil Shakir, James Cook, they're a little twitchier, they're a little better after the catch.
It gives them a little spice. They're a little less Josh reliant. He still had to play the game. But when I do watch their offense, I'm like, they are gears to it now, and I didn't really feel there were gears. There are times Stefan dis disappears for a quarter and they're fine, And that to me feels more like a Super Bowl team, where previously it was like, okay, can Josh. It was almost like watching a high school offense with a Division one quarterback. You're like, all right,
four or five touchdowns. I feel they're balanced, even though Josh is still putting up like league leading numbers.
Totally agree. I mean the definitive drive to me is they get the ball back up a touchdown with about ten minutes left, and there were a couple Josh Allen runs in there, which ultimately was capped off by the Shakir touchdown. Who in that offense, right, they had Cole Beasley forever. That's a great little security blanket over the middle of the field. They had digs on a screen, and Cook had several runs. I mean, he's he's a legitimate player right now, yes, so you know this is
it kind of becoming the Brady Manning. Now Mahomes and Allen next week it's mahomes first ever road game, and I think for the first time you feel Buffalo can win. I mean, I haven't seen the line yet. I'm sure they're going to be favored. It's a tough place to play. And Josh I texted a buddy in the league. I don't think he's the best quarterback, but he's definitely has
the most raw talent of any quarterback in the NFL. Right, and it was on full display with some of those He's a cheat code in cold weather, which they said the kickoff it was negative, you know, zero degrees at the field, the wind, the chill. He's unfazed at like Mahomes. So that was always a huge advantage in the Brady Manning thing. Right, Brady had a huge advantage if the game was in New England. Well, it's a coin flip, right, Mahomes and Allen, there's no difference when they're outside and
to me, I totally agree. They're a little more balanced and digs at any moment can make a big play. But the Cook's emergence this season really has taken their team. They feel like the real deal now can they overcome some of the injuries. They have some scar tissue in some of these big moments, Like what happens next week? If it's twenty to fourteen going in to the fourth quarter and they're down, do they get tight? Does that
place get tight? Today? They have the momentum. The Steelers, let's face it, a little bit of a fraudulent team. You know, historically in the playoffs, seven seeds weren't even there. So yeah, I'm bullish on Buffalo. They've really never forget when ty Dunn, I know you have them on friend of mine, that definitive piece that he wrote, it felt like, well, they're gonna start losing a bunch of games and this guy's gonna get fired. They never lost and they still
haven't lost to this day. So that you talk about a team with a lot of momentum, you got to like where the Bills the way they've played over the last whatever six plus weeks. Right.
Well, in the other thing, ty Dunn's article wasn't inaccurate what the Bills did in which good operations do. Remember when Tom Coughlin started getting heat and instead of holding a grudge, Tom Coughlin improved, He listened to his players. Yep, Sean McDermott instead of getting defensive. McDermott's like, we got some issues here and a lot of them are me and so they make a change at OC. So you know, whenever a reporter writes something and has inside sources, you
have sources, and there was unhappiness in the room. But I think, much like a Coughlin, a McDermott's like, Okay, listen, this can go two ways. I can be stubborn and get fired and by the way a lot of coaches would or I can learn from it. You know, when Shawan's a fighter, high school wrestler, tough guy, I fight or been around the league a long time, and I think I think Sean also knows. There's three quarterbacks in the league that are just different, Lamar, Josh and Mahomes.
There's a lot of good players, those guys are different. They can just peel off a twenty eight yard run at any moment and be faster than the defensive players chasing them. You know, I like Herbert, but he can be a bit wooden. I like Trevor Lawrence, but sometimes I don't think he's that accurate. There's a lot of guys I like CJ. Strouds Xlent. He's a lot like golf,
clean pocket, beautiful, not a real mover. But I think I think Sean McDermott looks at this and thinks, Okay, if I left, I will get no more Josh you like everybody's always like everybody's always like John Harbaugh really embraces lamar. No shit, there's one of the planets.
It's not hard to go it.
Don't make them like that. So it's I think Buffalo, you know, had a fork in the road, and McDermott's like, we have to be open and communicate. And I like him. This is an easy team to root for that kind of like Detroit in the AFC been beaten up historically.
I like him. I would say this about Sean McDermot having to spend a year around him. A lot of defensive coaches can just kind of lean tough guy, meathead, and at Sean's core, he is a tough guy, but he's a well read intellectual right. He could have a conversation with you about a lot of different things. He's not just some old school hitch you hit you now. His personality, he can get tight as was written about in that article. But he is a smart guy. I mean,
this is someone that could have worked in finance. This is a guy that could have been successful in a lot of different industries. And to me, he a lot of deserves a lot of credit for clearly just maintaining that infrastructure inside the team, because sometimes you can unravel in that situation. They were six and six, they were headed to implode. Now they're hosting the second round, right, I mean, they've turned this thing around and quick. Now.
They benefited because the team that they had to catch in the division was not Brady and Belichick. It was Tua and a team that was getting injured, losing multiple players a game for a month straight. I give this Bills team. You talk about a team that went through a lot of shit early in the season, and now they have a player that on any given you know, week, on any given game, I don't care if you've got Patrick Mahomes, I don't care if you've got Lamar Jackson.
Which is the two teams are gonna play the next two weeks, they can have the best player on the field, which you saw today. He had stretches where it's like, I don't know if I've ever seen that quite before from a pocket passer, right, because he's running like Cam Newton, but then he's throwing like Elway or Marina.
Now they have a short week, they face Kansas City, but I do think many of their best players have been around the block the coaching staff. I don't think short weeks necessarily are punitive to a Baltimore, Kansas City, Philadelphia. I mean, these teams play on Thursday, and the good teams are usually ready to go. So I don't think that's punishing.
And they're at home.
Yeah, yeah, So I think I think, you know, Buffalo should be favored, and and I would, I would. My gut feeling is they should be favored by about two and a half points. It'll be a classic game. Let's talk Pittsburgh, And I was thinking about this. So Green Bay and Pittsburgh are very similar, loyal, smaller market, not big free agent players, winning organizations both draft and develop
at a very very high level. The difference is one has an offensive coach and an offensive culture, home grown McCarthy, Lafleur far of Rogers Love. One has a defensive coach and very much a defensive culture. They spend their money on defense. The difference is the Packers have shown an ability to just keep hitting on quarterbacks. Between Bradshaw and Big Ben, there were a lot of misses. Kenny Pickett
feels like a very average player. Rudolph's been around for a while, limitations, lower ceiling, and I think green Bay rolls this weekend, and if I look at green Bay going forward, I get nothing but answers, speed, quarterback, coach, salary cap. They'll go spend money on an edge rusher, like I got nothing but answers with green Bay. Pittsburgh is picked at the right guy. Is Tomlin perfect? Are they gonna spend money on offense? What do you do
in the draft? You have to address the local kid that's not much better than your backup, and this is not It's just funny. When I look at Pittsburgh today and forward, I have nothing but questions. Despite the fact they have good players everywhere. I like a lot of it, But are they gonna address this well? To me, Alan Lamar now CJ. Stroud Burrow, their divisions packed at quarterback.
I don't pivot on my take that this is run its course with Mike Tomlin like today making the playoffs, as some seven seed and losing by a couple of touchdowns does not change my opinion. And I thought that was defined this season. What were they watching at practice to keep rolling with Mitch Trubisky over Mason Rudolph. Right, Mason Rutop's not your franchise quarterback, but he was way better than Mitch that they were losing games with, which
forced them to play everybody in that final game. And today they didn't have TJ. Watt. He's one of the best players in the league. And they got there because they were in a position of loyalty Mitch Trubisky. We paid him eight million dollars. It's like, guys, have you guys watched this guy play over the last five years? What are you doing? Say what you want about Mason ruff He made some plays a day. Him and Trubisky
are there's a wide gap, But I'm with you. I mean that there is a culture in Green Bay and it goes back to Ron Wolfenholmgren quarterback, quarterback, quarterback, quarterback. And in this league, you can't just roll out Tommy Maddox or some of these guys and expect to compete. You have no chance none, I mean not a snowball's chance in hell. And like you said, the division, they're in a different stratosphere. And now CJ. Stroud's in the conference,
Herbert is gonna get Horbaugh. What are we doing? So yeah, I think I think it's time for divorce. I've been saying it for a while. The Tomlin thing, it doesn't reflect like he's some bum as a coach. He would get hired immediately, But I think it's just time for a change now. Organizationally, that's not their style, let's face it. Beside Roethlisberger, they've really struggled at that position. Right, even with Coward, It's not like they had big time quarterbacks.
So I mean, I remember being a kid Neil O'Donnell they were in the super Bowl with like this. That's not Elway, Marino or Steve Young or Aikman. So yeah, I'm with you. I don't see much changing next year. Their organization is so well run like the Packers with all the other positions, that they're never going to have a six win season. So this notion saying that Tomlin never losess, well, most good coaches would be competitive with their roster. I mean they're missing star players and they
still got studs everywhere. So yeah, I think that's a little overblown. I think it's time for a change now. Will they do that obviously highly unlikely, But there have been some rumblings out there that maybe we've come to a fork in the road and that they've had some management turnover. The longtime GM is gone, they got some new people running the organization. I think these next couple days it'll be interesting if a story pops out of
Pittsburgh that maybe they're both looking at each other. Maybe Mike Tomlin, you go, I don't want to coach these quarterbacks. Go somewhere else where you get better infrastructure.
Dave Wanstat once told me that the Steelers were always a little reluctant to draft pit players University of Pittsburgh players because if they had to let go of the player or cut them, it wouldn't play well in the community. And the Runies are so community based. And so if I'm Mike Tomlin, do I consider saying I got a ring here? Right? Like, I've done my job. I know this organization three more years of Kenny Pickett, They're not moving off him. I'm best served going to the market
doing Fox TV or CBS for a year. I mean, both those companies would hire him overnight. NBC, I mean Mike. I mean, I can't say with any certainty, but I can tell you Fox, CBS you a heartbeat, are guys and no inside information. We have smart executives. You'd absolutely call Mike Tomlin tomorrow, fly him out and say let's talk. So my takeaway is it's not an indictment of Mike. It's a smart business pursuit. Let's do TV for a year,
show everybody like Sean Payton. Hey, when I come back in ten years, you'll want to hire me really good at this stuff, and then wait for a really good young quarterback to hit in this draft and then go somewhere and win again. I don't think it's an indictment if after ten years you're looking around going I kind of think I can't win with this quarterback, and my organization's not bailing on this quarterback. I mean, the Roonies would push back on that.
But don't you think there would be teams? You know, not everyone's gonna land harbor on Belichick. So the Washington football team Commanders, whatever the hell their name is, Atlanta Falcons, Belichick's on his yacht. Well, if the cowboy job becomes available, the Atlanta Falcons are not getting Bill Belichick, so they'd be all over him. He's from you know, that area, the Eastern Seaboard. I think Mike Tomlin would have to turn people down right the different Sean Payton quit right
to me. Mike Tomlin, Now we'll see where his head's at. I think could immediately garner fifteen plus million dollars a year for a team that just wants some relevance and some important I think you'll just get the train of think about Washington at the number two pick in the draft. I've known Adam Peters for a long time. He kind of knows what he's doing. I mean, that's that seems like a pretty good spot.
Well, and also there's this thing in the media that if you, if you suggest what we're suggesting, your anti Tomlin. No that this is by the way, Pete Carroll fired three times, Belichick now fired, basically fired twice, Andy Reid fired. The reality is what Mike provides culture and toughness. The Steelers have that coming out of their ears. I agree, And I was talking to a GM today, how many great cultures because a coach sets the culture, and then
the GM follows suit becomes the mason lays the bricks. Right, you create the identity as a coach, the GM follows you. How many great cultures are they in the NFL? San Francisco, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Green Bay, Los Angeles, Rams, Chiefs, Philip Chiefs, and I can name about four. There's about eight nine. One of those is Mike Tomlin. So what it means is there's about twenty teams twenty two that don't have it. That's Mike's specialty, toughness, alpha dog culture. Twenty teams need Mike Tomlin.
So when people get defensive about Tomlin, it's like nobody is safe. By the way, Sean Payton and I had dinner, he knew it's just time I've been here, breeze is leaving, It's just time to take a deep breath. So I'd love to see Tomlin in Dallas. Oh, I love it.
Pete Carroll was running out of town after back to back nine win seasons of trading the best player in franchise history. Right, So it's like this is a unique industry. You know you can be successful. Rattle off nine and ten wins like Mike is and go, where are we really going with this? Even if we have to take a step back to take a step forward, And sometimes you know, coaches have talked about this forever, your message eventually kind of runs runs this course. And that's where
I think Pittsburgh is at. And they've done the same thing now. It feels like for five straight years they've looked the same when the season ended. It's not a failure. Most of the league would sign up for that, but in Pittsburgh, I would say they desire.
A little more. Here's the outther thing that Tomlin is so good at. Just throw Dallas out. He's great in front of the mic, and a cowboy coach is in front of the mic. He is very capable of dealing with drama. Le'van bell ab He's more than capable of drama. Big Ben created some drama Pickens, I mean they got pickenss. So he can handle the mic. He'd be great. Jerry would say something you know that you have to dig
out from under. Nobody'd be better than Mike. He's the best guy in front of the mic in the league, has been for several years. He's just great at the podium. He can handle drama. The Cowboys always have it, and I think it's fair to say in some big games this year Niners Buffalo, Green Bay, the Cowboys lack toughness. They really lacked. I mean there were times Micah disappeared. The fact that this game was really relatively close today speaks volumes of the without TJ. Watt and with Mason
Rudolph tells you toughness. That was a brutal environment. I thought they were when they scored that touchdown, I was like, how did they get within seven? How did this happen?
Colin? My first thought, you know, halfway through the first quarter, was like, well a fifty to ten game is still better than no game. So I'm glad football is on. But my theory and I was thinking about it this morning at the gym. Jerry just an all time great marketer, do you think because even if he needed to sleep on it, the decision he has to have already made. But you don't want to fire your coach on a day where there are two games, even though it would
be a huge story. Gets a loss a little in translation, easier to pull the trigger Tuesday morning or Wednesday, when you kind of get the day to just be the whole headline, or do you think he's truly just kind of pacing back and forth in his office thinking about it, because I don't really know what's to think about. After I've had twenty four hours to think about that game, it still is one of the crazier things I can remember watching.
Yeah, I think you know, Jerry, he may do it after next weekend would feel maybe more appropriate. There's no hurry to name it over the next ten days, right, like they're really is.
You can't just hire Belichick Wednesday because of the new rules, So yeah, you're not competing against other people to hire him by Thursday. This is college football.
And basically I don't know. Tomlin would be way up at the top of my list. Rabel and Tomlin for the Cowboys would kind of a no nub because there's a lot of nonsense with Dallas. Tomlin and Vrabel are no nonsense. Yeah, and I think they'd be really good fits. So Mike Tomlin after the game was asked about his contract and walked off. What does that mean to you?
Well, to me, we saw with Mike Vrabel, things have gotten weird, right, Things were getting weird in Pittsburgh. There have been rumblings that this has run its course. I've been saying forever it's time. Mike Tomlin's no idiot. I mean he knows Ben Roethlisberg Grant walking through that door. Their quarterback situation is a disaster. You start feeling unappreciated. That's part of Belichick's thing, like, hey, guys, you know
what I've done for you. Now The problem is like part of football is like the future, not the past. But once you start feeling like that as a coach, big egos, These guys are super rich. I've been predicting for a while. I think this thing's over and now maybe Tomlin's a little hot, doesn't feel the respect coming from the organization. Obviously, the fans are on him. I mean the fans now in Pittsburgh have kind of been on them for several years, several I think it's run its course.
Calling. By the way, let's pivot to talk about that game the Cowboys and Packers. Let's talk about it again. Is that Did you see Matt Lafleur's reaction after the game. It was really something. In Week eight, I think it was at home against Minnesota, he was bad. There were some fifty five completion percentage pre buy for Jordan Love, so this idea that Packer fans, we're ahead of everybody on this. He was bad. Lafleur was condemning him after games and had to apologize like we were too hard
on him. Lafleur's reaction after this Dallas game was one almost of disbelief, as if he was saying, I mean, he's good at practice, but we don't see that. I mean he was like that guy's and wow, rarely do you see a coach act almost surprised by the performance, and it is interesting. So he's obviously always had it in him, right, He's obviously done this in moments. But I'm trying to think of a player I've ever seen in season that's improved like that. I can't remember anybody.
Well, this is why Josh Allen, after one of the worst college careers statistically, who ever see gets drafted at seven. This is why people will still take a chance on justin fields. When you have physical in the sport of football with a huge arm, and you're a good athlete, you know coaches are gonna want to work with you. And the overwhelming majority of them don't work. The other thing with football coaches, this is not basketball or baseball.
You practice, you know, five times more than you play during the week. Right, ray Lewis used to say, you pay me Monday through Saturday. Sundays are for free. So it's practice and study and it's you know, coaches get very caught up in what it looks like in practice because for the most part that translates to the game. Then there are the outliers. Right Alan Iverson didn't even show up to practice and then he can score forty
in a game. Bar Now that's not Yeah, this is I'm not saying this guy is not trying or whatever in practice, but you can't part of what Aaron Rodgers. You had seen it so often in games you knew what you had. When you have an unknown, especially he's not front. It's not like he had played at se Texas or Bama. So you'd seen him in the guys playing at Utah State and they weren't even that successful
of a program his last year there. So there was a lot of guessing, and rightfully, the contract told you everything you needed to know. It's like, yeah, you're not going to pick up the fifth year option, but will give you eleven million dollars. I don't know if you saw all the incentives. I mean it's hit like seven million dollars in incentives.
Yeah.
Right, So it's been remarkable. But listen, the most powerful thing you can have in football is the head coach who's also the play caller, because when he can develop that guy, no matter how much success your program has Sean McVay, Kyle Shannan and Andy Reid, Sean Payton. Now Lafleur, you can't hire that guy away. This is not college. I can't pluck your head coach. So you have the most valuable asset from your coaching staff. Who's always standing
next to Jordan Love going over is Matt Lafleur. I think Matt Lafleur, not that I questioned him, but you know it was kind of Listen, you inherited Rogers. As you said, it's one of the great all time openings. I mean, you got back to back MVPs. He kind of met him in the middle. Remember, Aaron didn't do the entire offense. He liked the shotgun stuff. Now they've instituted this playbook, Jordan has no choice. But hey, I'll do whatever you guys want me to do. The organization
great job around him, and the rest is history. Even if they lose this game, coming up by seventeen points. What a freaking season. I mean, what if I'm a Packer? Can you imagine being a Bears fan or a Minnesota Vikings fan. These teams run through quarterbacks constantly, and you see the Packers do this because he made those throws last night. Even if the game quote unquote's a little easier to throw, as Brady would say, because you're not
getting lit up across the middle. That ability to throw off your back foot and throw lasers thirty plus yards on a string and hit guys over the shoulder with the dB in front of him, only a small hand like only a small handful of guys can't can do that well.
And I was I was watching that game. I was thinking to myself, this is another reason you gotta go get Kayla Williams. If your Chicago, You've got three years of Justin Fields, I've got one year of Jordan Love. Think about Jordan Love's improvement week eight to now like week nineteen, per se, it's a different It's like it's like almost I said today, It's like a guy went from missing the cut at the Valero Open to a nine stroke lead at the Masters on Saturday, and like
eight weeks, you're like, what am I doing? Justin Fields, I got three years. We've got these tiny incremental leaps. Like usually star quarterbacks are either good initially CJ. Stroud or they do a Josh Allen a Jordan Love. We're over like a ten game Stretcher're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa. There's the magic. And I think some of
it is building relationships with the young receivers. But I as I watched that, I thought, Okay, Chicago fanboys, you gotta go restart the clock because to beat Green Bay going forward, you got to go and buy some players because you don't draft offense like the Packers do. And right now, Fields is not close to Jordan Love.
Well, imagine me and you were, you know, ran the Chicago Bears front office, and we showed up to the office this morning after not just watching Jordan Love, but also saw Jared Goff, who's under contract next year for twenty five million, who they clearly like, those two guys are going nowhere, and those teams have a lot of talent, So what can they both do? Throw from within the pocket? Now Love can move, GoF can't, but GoF can really throw from within the pocket. And they happen to have
the best offensive line who's all under contract. So I've been saying this forever. Caleb Williams is going to be their quarterback. There's no ifans or butts. I don't even think it's a question internally, but obviously it's going to be an internet conversation. I listen to Justin Fields go for a second of fourth. It doesn't really matter. You're drafting Caleb Williams number one, and now you know, a couple hours ago he officially declared, which he always was
going to do. But Caleb Williams is going to be a Bear unless him and his dad, you know, pulling you know, Eli or John Elway. But even then, if I'm the Chicago Bears, I'm just drafting him and we'll figure it out.
Yeah. I feel the same way, So you know I was I was thinking yesterday. I said this is that there's not as many franchise quarterbacks as you think. Stroud and Jordan Love are very significant because the AFC and the NFC both get another young star quarterback. And I counted seventeen. I did not count Geno Smith. I count Derek Carr, I don't consider him top ten. Twelve. I counted Kirk Cousins off an injury. I did count Aaron Rodgers,
though I don't think his career. I think he's got about a year left behind that old line and he may just wave the white flag. But it is remarkable. I counted seventeen, maybe eighteen if you count Baker Mayfield, who I give a contract to. We you know, if the number's right, probably in the teens, as you noted, But it's pretty remarkable. John. It's about fifty five percent of the league has a franchise quarterback, and it leads me to believe I thought about this due to the
injuries and the scarcity of them. Could I make an argument unless you have a young one who's healthy, like at Buffalo, you could draft a quarterback every single year. Every now obviously some year second round, some fifth. But when you watch a brock pretty come out from Iowa State and you're like, shit, I'm going to draft one of these guys. It maybe the fifth, you know, Belichick did it every other year. Garoppolo, Ryan Malley, he drafted a lot.
Andy reidid it for years in Philadelphia.
And by the way, most won't hit. If one out of four does you sell him on the market, Or when your guy gets hurt for three games, you can win one of them. But I thought watching this, I'm like, I don't know who the quarterback. The league is so quarterback centric if you don't draft one a year.
Well, I'll tell you. One thing I thought about this morning was one I can't even imagine if Stafford could get out of bed this morning, you know, would he have been able to play if they had won that game. But aren't they a team that if you told me they traded up five spots in the first round and drafted a guy in the teams and kind of tried to pull the Mahomes Alex Smith and red shirted, who cares? They drafted Stetson Bennett in the fourth round. Hell, he
wasn't even around this season. Like it's just whatever, move on, yeah, right. I treat it like the forty nine ers with Trey Lance. Look at they're a good example. Boom pivot, get more guys in go sign see Donold's brock Purty just keep turning that bad boy. And even if you have a high priced guy. Look look at the the Detroit Lions. They drafted Hendon Hooker last year off in ACL He's the backup to Jared Goff. So I'm totally for that. I think a lot of teams though in the twenties.
You know, we'll see Pittsburgh, but we talked so much about Seattle and we'll have to see who their new head coaches. But aren't the Rams a team that you just watch Stafford? You go how many more years is he gonna And he was remarkable last year? But is his body gonna hold up? I mean he's a thirty five year old. That body has to feel like he's fifty six, you know, like Roethlisberger at the end, you're like, god, he's just he's been through the war. You know. That's
what Stafford feels to me. The Rams are a team. They have other needs, but you have to look and go at any moment, this guy does not feel like he's just walking off in the sunset. The way he's played over his fourteen fifteen years.
This is my gut feeling on that that they believe with their draft picks and cap space, they're gonna go buy an edge rusher they needed. Their gonna go get another receiver, Cooper Cups aging, they want another back. They're gonna go get a left tackle. If Havenstein moves uh, they're gonna get a defensive end. My guess is they may buy a tight end and an edge rusher. Higbe may not be ready for the start of next year. They like David Allen, the backup from Clemson's okay's a backup.
My take is they're gonna go one more year with Matt Stafford Wentz the backup. You could win games with wins. They're actually they're very similar players. Arm little reckless played in big games. Staffords a better player.
Obviously.
I think they're gonna go one more year and then the take is and they'll convince Aaron Donald to stay. Then mcveay has been and it'll be a good team next year. They'll be a very good team next year. Agree Because Kobe Turner, uh uh Avilla, the inturior young, the rush end, Pooka. They hit on like four or five draft picks. It's a good scouting department. McVeigh. I think they'll go to the market. I think they'll just say, listen,
there's four quarterbacks available in the market. Wouldn't you choose McVeigh.
Yeah, so might might takes how the Niners got Sam Darnold for two million dollars, right, so you wanted to come there to rest.
I think they're gonna run Matt back. They're going to try to embolden the offensive line, which, by the way, if.
I'm not saying getting rid of Stafford, I'm saying almost do a Mahomes Alex Smith have a guy around him, but you'd have to use a high pick probably to get a guy you like.
Yeah, I think they're gonna run it back. I think they think they can be a super Bowl team next year. I think they were. They knew in the building their defense is young, needs another year, and they have about four holes to fill, and the scouting department they trust. They have their first, second, third, fourth, fifth, six. So but I do think the advantage to having an offensive coach is as your quarterback ages, they age a little
more elegantly, not inelegantly like being Big Ben. And the second thing is when the market has free agent quarterbacks, they look to you. They I mean, I mean, hell elway didn't. Elway was a front office guy, and he recruited Peyton Manning. Peyton trusted Elwaye's brain power in the building to go to Denver.
I think mcveigh's comment after the game, too, is pretty powerful, essentially saying like these guys made me fall in love with football again because he clearly almost tapped out and had enough of it last year, and now he has this young team where you're kind of bullish on the future. It's almost like a college coach that's a little older sugnds like a four year deal, like, guys, I'm not
going anywhere. And he kind of I thought was pretty open and honest with that comment of like I'm here, like we got a chance to be pretty good in the next several years. I mean, Puka, what he did last night in all season, I don't think it's you can overstate. I mean, that's one of the greatest. You know, Randy Moss was sexier looking the way he played, but it's his impact. I mean, that guy's an unstoppable force.
And it's not like you beg well he's the number two. Well, no, he was way better than Cooper cup given how he's not the same player right now based off the injuries. So when you're going into a game, you're trying to take Puka in the cool you know where Matt Stafford's looking and that no one can cover him. I don't care if you the Lions, DBS or Good DBS. That guy is getting seven to ten catches every single game. He is what a draft pick, that's that's remarkable.
Had they not taken it was funny after the draft the next day, I said, I didn't love the Stets and Bennett pick, but their second round pick aces, they're two thirds aces their fifth. They got Allen and Puka Nakua. They had a hell of a draft.
And I talked to you out of it too. You loved him, and I thought they were gonna suck, and they were, well, here's the thing, but that they were damn good down the stretch.
Stafford and Aaron Donald, I argue, are still top five in the league at their position, maybe top three. I mean, I think Stafford's that good easily, but Donald is so perpetually triple team. Did you see multiple times Detroit trippled him and he stopped rushing because his feeling was well, I've done my job. I've taken three offensive linemen. You guys go get him Is if they can keep talking.
I think he has two more great years, and I think Stafford's got two more so I think I think Cooper cup you could argue it's time to move off him. Can you get a fifth round pick for him? But or he could restructure his deal because they do have some cap space.
The analytical community is always down on linebackers. They view them like utility players, like in baseball. And I've always pushed back on that, having lived through the Willis and Bowman teams and now with Fred Warner with the Niners. Ernest Jones fifty three, no one talks about him. He's easily one of the best linebackers. He's definitely probably the best blitzing linebacker. And Michael Lombardi has always said this, when your middle linebacker is fast and impact player, your
whole defense plays like that. To me, he lifts their level of play. Think about last year Bobby Wagner they signed, he was old, not the same player. They pivoted off him, they went, they built the defense now around Jones in the middle. Look how much better their unit is and they might get lucky. Rahie Morris should get a second chance, but who knows, maybe defensive coaches, a lot of other big name coaches on the market, they might be able
to just bring him back. You bring this coaching staff back. McVeigh turned over that whole staff right, six seven new guys like Ryan Windell their offensive line coach. How much better was their offensive line this year than it has been years past? And they have some good young players, but just a remarkable job as an organization.
John Middlecoff, former NFL stout scout for the Eagles three and Out podcast You See the Hat as always great talking to you about see you con
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