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it all for some reason, doesn't go for two. The Chiefs scoring overtime and remain undefeated as the only undefeated team currently in the NFL and have a nice little cushion in the AFC for the number one seed, and yeah, who would have saw that coming? The Chiefs. Just it's got to be an incredible time to be a Chiefs fan. Other than that, what a game by Baker Mayfield, Liam

Cohen missing players that they were awesome. I mean the quarterback play tonight was and the coaching in that environment, in that weather, what was really fantastic, very very enjoyable to watch the second half of that game. Got to do a little outhouse and penthouse. And you know, we have a new addition because the Porta Potty Panthers won

a game. So if you get beat by the Porta Potty Panthers, I mean, what does that make the Saints who then fire their coach this morning and the Raiders who fired it felt like half their staff, so you're one of their head coach, But hey, master the Raiders. Obviously, the Cowboys got some issues, dak is injured, Philly's Hummon Jim Harbob does what he always does, wins. Got some numbers for you as well as a little middle Cooff mail bag at John Middlecoff at John Middlecoff is the Instagram.

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the peak of being a sports fan. This is what it had to feel like living in Chicago in the early and late nineties watching Jordan. If you lived in New York in the late nineties early two thousands with the Yankees, I saw it when I lived in the Bay Area, when Kevin Durant showed up, and even the couple of years before, you just never thought the Warriors were gonna lose ever, And that's what it feels like watching the Chiefs. You're like, Yeah, their offense just isn't

that good. They're relying on Kareem Hunt, who they had to sign off the street because they're starting running back broke his leg. You're like, God, he doesn't look that good. And as the game starts going, You're like, God, he actually kind of looks good. You're like, oh, Travis Kelsey's kind of old doesn't quite move the same, only runs these five and six yard routes, and then as the game goes on, he just consistently catches those routes. DeAndre

Hopkins classic that drive. Honestly, I thought the game was over with you know, about a little under thirteen minutes. The Chiefs get the ball. It is seventeen to seventeen. They have a fifteen play eight and a half minute drive, then went seventy five plus to score the touchdown. When you know, Mahomes lobs it to p Ryan and I guess that was earlier in the game. That's when he hit Hopkins and he had already gotten hurt. But then he was fine and came back a little scared, but

obviously everything was alright. He played the rest of the game. But he hits Hopkins for a second touchdown of the game, and you're like, what an incredible championship drive. Like they got it all, even though they don't because their stud running back has a broken leg and is out still

another month. Their best wide receiver is on injured reserve, and they're relying on as you saw earlier in the game, Worthy, who is a very talented player, a little raw I mean Mahomes hit him down the sideline, couldn't get both and bounds a little embarrassing. Kelsey, I think it is fair to say. I do think he will show up for the playoffs. He's not what he once was. And then Hopkins, who probably runs a five zho forty, was fantastic tonight. I mean that trade the night was like

an organizational move. It's like, yeah, we made this move early for a reason. This guy's gonna help us out. And obviously they don't win the game without him and Mahomes, Kareem Hunt, DeAndre Hopkins, Kelsey, they drive him right down the field and score a touchdown. I thought the game was over. And then the Bucks get the ball back. They go three and out. Then the Chiefs get the ball back, they go three and out. They're like this

is nuts. Then the Bucks get the ball back again with a little bit under two minutes and twenty seconds. You're like, there's no way. And then Baker Mayfield, who listen, there are not I don't know, is he's a top ten quarterback like I obviously he I wouldn't say he's a top five guy. With Lamar Allen Stafford, Mahomes Herbert like those guys would all get drafted before he did.

But I think when you start talking obviously Jared Goff this season, like there aren't many quarterbacks playing as well as this guy, and tonight a lot like Mahomes, he ain't really playing with a full deck. His best receiver has messed up hamstring, his second best wide receiver, who was having an elite contract year, shattered his ankle, and he's thrown to Sterling Shepherd and Kate Otten who is

a good player, and his running backs. At one point in time, when the Bucks took the lead in this game fourteen to ten, they showed a graphic His wide receivers had two catches, his running backs had four, and his tight ends all being o had five. So like, what a night from Baker Mayfield and his offensive coordinator because they had no business given their injuries, you know,

on paper, competing in this game. But this is what makes Monday Night football so fun is that you get these fun games because regardless of what your record is. And now the Bucks have lost four out of five games.

This is a kitchen sink game for them. They know you're playing on primetime, you're playing on national television against the two time defending champs, Andy Reid, Patrick Mahomes, and you give it all you got, and their quarterback, I thought, for the most part, was flawless, and Mahomes was excellent too. Both those guys, like what a high level quarterback game in a driving rainstorm when clearly it was very difficult

to keep your feet. Obviously, that's why Mahomes is an all time great, and why Baker Mayfield has reestablished himself or just established himself, because you would say he never really was as a top ten quarterback in the NFL, and honestly, this year is closer to five than he

is ten. He has been fantastic. But I think if you wanted to nitpick the Bucks, they drive that Liam Cohens play calling the night because his wide receivers are so limited, getting rid of the ball fast, running a bunch of quick outs, getting the ball to the running

backs in the flat, hoping they can make plays. And they did pretty consistently, even if it's just gaining five or six yards, not having Baker hold it too long, especially in a rainstorm, and they drive that the play call to get the game tying touchdown was just fantastic. Akman crushing Todd Bowles for calling the time out, you know, heat of the moment. If you don't have another play call, you're coming a long way. I think it's easy to

be sitting there and saying it. I do think kind of a tough spot, but regardless, it worked out fine. I think if you do want to nitpick him, it's like, listen, you've already lost to Tampa or excuse me, Atlanta twice. It is gonna be. You're playing the Chiefs now and you got the forty nine ers in six days. You probably just want to put all your cards in the middle of the table. You just ran two plays that could have scored. I mean, if Aughton holds onto the ball,

that's touchdown. The very next play, easy touchdown. Clearly your two point plays and essentially what you're running are pretty good. Like Liam Cohen, think about all the negativity, Let's just use a guy, Shane Waldron. Everyone thinks he's the village idiot. Rightfully. So the Raiders couldn't get rid of their offensive coordinator, who ironically had come from Chicago, Lukeagetzi fast enough. They fired him. The quarterback coach, the offensive line coach, it's clear.

You watch some offensive coordinators, regardless of quarterback, you're like, they have no fuel for play calling. Like, regardless of how talented the guys you have running your offense, you can feel if they have like a just an innate ability and a rhythm to their play calling. And if you've watched Liam Cohen all season long, he has been awesome. And if you want to argue, it's one thing to do with Mike Evans and Chris Godwin, Like, Okay, he's

got a full deck. How about you take those two guys away and you go to toe to toe with a big time defense, a championship defense, on the road in a rainstorm, and him and Baker answered the bell, So I think, like, what do you gotta lose? Why not just go for it there? Because basically, when you kick the field goal, which let's face it now with the uh how the extra point whatever, thirty five plus yards, it's not a gimme in the rain. And even Aikman,

as he said, I would have gone for two. You start thinking like, is he gonna slip and miss this? And then you give them a chance. They had twenty seven seconds now. Ultimately they ended up punting, but you're basically just taking a fifty to fifty coin flip, right, And I'm against always going for two as some of these teams do. Like I'm cool with kicking field goals and just throwing up one point when we score touchdowns. I think that's a spot that you gotta go for,

especially with how well your quarterback's playing. Go for the jugular right there, and he didn't and ultimately a cost him because you give the ball back to you know, the mid nineties or the late nineties Yankees like they're gonna win because they always win. I was just looking at the uh, you know, the conference standings, and it's like you watch the Bills and you're like, God, this

offense is awesome. How good is Josh playing? You watch the Ravens when they're on they're just scoring forty with ease. And then he watched the Chiefs.

his ankle or hit pointer or something going on. I had to be carried for like half the way and then he started walking. Obviously, you know, Carson Wentz starts warming up your kind of hard drops. You're like, no, please be okay. And obviously he shook it off and everything was all right. But I thought both those two quarterbacks just gutty performances that that is not easy. I mean, that was a Chief defense that a couple of weeks ago made Kyle Shanahan a brock purty look like scrubs,

thoroughly embarrass them. And for Liam Cohen, you know, we talk a lot about people interviewing and people love throwing around names, and obviously that you know, after two weeks it was it was Koubiak's kid in New Orleans. Well, that train fell off the tracks. Slow X offense has been having a lot of issues. I don't care what their record ends up being. If you just watch the Bucks play offense, like if you watch the Chiefs play offense, the Bucks play offense like, those are just two well

run operations given what they have. Like I defend the Chiefs, like, why is their offense not more explosive? I don't know. They have a thirty six year old jet center at tight end. They have a young kid Worthy who clearly swim in a little bit. They have Kareem Hunt, who was on the street. I mean, what do you expect the ninety nine rams like that? That's not gonna happen here.

So its same thing with the Bucks. So for both those two teams in a rainstorm, how many offensive coordinators in the league, given the personnel of those two teams, would have been able to get around twenty four to twenty five points at the end of regulation in that environment. I don't know if many could. So very very impressive night.

From a coaching standpoint, it's funny you watch there's so many shitty teams in the league right now, and you watch so many poorly coached operations, and then you like, if I'm a Bucks fan, I'm holding my head high, like this team this year, if it wasn't for some injuries, we are right there. We are a playoff team. I feel pretty confident about that, obviously, not now that they're

gonna probably end up being seven or eight wins. And God, given their injuries, how many guys have missed games who are missing them now and miss games earlier. It's coaching now. If you want to like Todd, you gotta be a little more aggressive. And I think there's a balance of like Sirianni's reckless nature and just like now's the time, Like now's the time to pounce, now's the time to put your chips in the middle of the table, now's the time to take a big swing. And it's just

clearly not really in his nature. And ultimately, I think it's a big reason that they didn't win. And now they've got the forty nine ers in six days, who are going to bring in Christian McCaffrey and you're really leaking oil and it kind of could fall apart here. But I was really impressed with just the Bucks effort and moxie and just no quit because I think some teams might have folded, especially after Mahomes drove them, because Andy and Mahomes and that defense who actually you know,

gave it up at the end. They just they're tough. Man. You can't. It's really pretty crazy. I mean, I can't imagine being a Chiefs fan like my age. Most of your life, even the good teams never did shit in the playoffs, and then you guys just had some horrendous teams. And now for basically the last five or six years, it feels like you're unbeatable. Obviously, you haven't won it. Every year, you've lost in a Super Bowl, you've lost an AFC Championship game, but like the Patriots for twenty years,

it honestly feels like you guys never lose. And this feeling it doesn't get any better as a sports fan, it doesn't get any more enjoyable. You have, over the course of the last six years, won it in every conceivable way, tight games, blowouts, come from behind, guys injured coming back from injury in a game. It's just it's been remarkable to watch. There are so many parallels with those kind of Patriot dynasty and just the mental toughness, finding ways to win in games where you just don't

have it. Guys get injured and next guy comes up. You're like, who you playing with? And the Hopkins trade, I mean, that's you to talk about speaking about being aggressive, Todd Bowl's not aggressive. Well, the Chiefs for aggressive a couple of years weeks ago and traded for this guy. And a couple of weeks later, he's catching nine or ten balls, a couple of touchdowns and just making huge play after huge play. And he's probably as fast as me or you, and it does not matter because his

contested catches are elite. He's still a pretty good route runner, and he's excellent in the short and intermediate game. And now Mahomes is gonna have more and more trust with him. Just throw the ball his way and most of the time if he's looking at you, it's not a fifty to fifty ball, it's like an eighty twenty ball him. So we'll see if the Chiefs are inclined to do

anything more tomorrow. You know, there were some rumors on the interweb about Latimore the corner from from the Saints, like, listen, you can never have enough DB's and defenders I mean, if they were to do something like that, I would imagine they'll still sniff around some offensive weapons, but maybe they feel like you get Pachaco back, you let hopkins Worthy keeps growing that if our defense is good enough, we'll just smother you, as we did last season and

was a big reason that we were the super Bowl champs. So Chiefs got eight to zero and the Bucks, you know, lose their fourth game in the last five and now face the forty nine ers who are coming off a buye. So this this season could kind of get away from them fast, even though it's not an embarrassment what happened to them, right, we'll get into an embarrassment that happened to a team in their division. But fun game. That

game got more entertaining as it went on. Let's do a quick penthouse and outhouse because the outhouse is the most fun part. I mean the penthouse. Chiefs are on scholarship, they ain't moving, they were not going to leave tonight even if they had lost that game. They're just this team doesn't even fe good as the last couple of years, and it's not inconceivable that they go what fifteen and two is sixteen and one on the table. I'd be stunned if they went undefeated, but someone's gotta beat them.

They just find ways. I would if I was a betting man right now, I'd say fifteen to two, which is a problem because the Bills are gonna lose another game and they already have two losses in the Ravens because they blew that game against the Ravens and lost to Jamis Winston already got three losses. So you got got a pretty comfortable lead because these other teams fucked up early in the season. That like, listen, you watch

the Ravens when their offense is on, it's incredible. You watch how well Josh Allen has played this year, and honestly their defense, and I feel like this is a pretty good muscle flexier for Sean McDermott. He takes a lot of shit. He's made some mistakes in some big moments. No one can dispute that. But we try to promote a and hold up high. So many coaches in the NFL, Sean McDermott runs circles around what eighty five percent of them. I mean, it's just gonna be another thirteen win season

for the guy. And second or third seed and have a pretty good chance. He's gonna be favored in playoff games. And it's just like can he beat the Chiefs. It's like, yeah, certain people just couldn't beat Michael Jordan. I trust me. I lost a lot of people lose to Tiger Woods pretty sure. Not many people beat Tom Brady and if

you did, you immediately became a legend. So they're beating everybody else, and it's really just gonna come down for the Ravens and the Bills, like can you take him out in this team in that organization, which it feels like they are more susceptible this year. But I fell for it last year and I got burned financially. That says a lot of people did. And this year, even if I'm like I don't trust him enough, I'm definitely

not betting against him. Might just be a stayaway. But I think those three teams and we'll see what the Steelers coming off the by play the Commanders this week, that their record's gonna be really good and can they win the division? Is this Russ thing a little smoke and mirrors or is this sustainable? But you got TJ. Watt I mean, a big reason last year that they blimped into the playoffs because the guy got hurt and he missed a lot of games. If he plays seventeen

games and he's healthy, he basically is their quarterback. He's by far their best player, and he's one of the most impactful players in the league. And you have a guy like that. If Russ can just play solid in these playoff games, if he can just wreck shop and ruin whoever he's playing like, they would have a chance. Not because of Russ, but because of TJ. Watt, which

is the type guy you want. I mean Chris Jones that basically won the Chiefs the Super Bowl last year in the biggest moment, he was the guy that shoved Purty on the ground when Iyuk was wide open. And to me, in the NFC, there's only one team that deserves it right now. It's Alliance. I mean, there are other teams that have a shot, but like Minnesota is struggling to beat Joe Flacco. The Packers just got punked. The Rams are coming. They're foreign four. The Niners are

foreign four. I mean the Cardinals. Actually, when you look at their losses. Someone sent me this stat like the teams they've lost to are combined like twenty seven and eight. I mean, they have lost to excellent teams this season, but I just I can't put them in that category. Atlanta, Like, I'm sorry, You're just I'm not taking you that seriously. You're gonna be a playoff team. I probably plan on

betting against you in the first round. We'll have to wait for the matchup, but I think I can already see it from coming from a mile away, Like that's a good underdog spot for the Green Bay Packers, the Minnesota Vikings if that's the Rams, or the forty nine ers like Hammer time. So yeah, I mean, this is the AFC's best teams, feel like better than the NFC's

best teams, which basically just feels like the Lions. And then there's a huge group of other teams and we'll see how it plays out over the next three or four weeks, but I think it's fair to say that the Lions have really kind of established themselves, you know, alone with those other AFC teams the outhouse listen, a lot of you guys like the Porta Potti Panthers, and they deserved it. I mean, they had looked like an

expansion team. But when you are the Porta Potty Panthers and your quarterback, who most people view as just a major bust and not a very good player, leads essentially a game winning drive against the Saints and then less than what twelve fifteen hours after, they fired Dennis Allen. In the nicest way possible, they're like, we love the guy, we love the family. He'll always be a saint, but pack up your shit and get out here. You're an

embarrassment and rightfully so. And now they you know, the thing going viral about the quarterbacks with the most losses, it's basically just David Carr and Derek Carr. You know, after year five, after your six, after your seven, no one has more losses after year eleven than Derek Carr. He has literally got Dennis Allen. He's been the starting quarterback for Dennis Allen being fired twice, first time in

NFL history. Obviously a bunch of injuries. But you lose to the Porta Potty Panthers, you have to fall under that category two. And to me, that vault you in a category like I watched a little bit on one of the four boxes of the Titans, and Drake may like, I just they don't have a lot going for them, but I take them more seriously than a team that just loses at Carolina as a massive favorite, Like I

can't even put them in the outhouse. You could argue, once you lose to the porta potty Panthers, you go into your own own category, like you're basically like the shit at the bottom of the porta potty that is the Saints. They've lost seven straight games. Listen, we can make fun of the Giants all we want. They're terrible and they are going nowhere fast. But listen, their scores might not totally reflect the game you watch, but you're like, hey,

they're just they're fighting along. They're just not very good. No one thought that they were gonna beat the Commanders, I would say everyone, especially when Derek plays. You're like, listen, the Panthers are loosing this game. And then you look up and Derek's looking over at Alvin Kamara and the Panthers have the ball back and they're just kneeling it. You're like, wait, are the Panthers about to win this game and have the same amount of wins as the Giants?

As the Saints, as the Titans, as the Patriots. You're like, no, no, They're like, yeah, so I for this week's out house, I gotta put one NFC. I'm putting the Saints over the Panthers as being that shitty. And then the other team who fires three coaches? Who fires in right after Halloween? Three coaches on the offensive side of the ball with a first year head coach. It is crazy. And here's the irony here. How connected they are? Dennis Allen, Derek

Carr former Raiders now in the Saints. Everyone's getting fired. Who's interconnected here? It's like, how can you as someone send me a textasda a former NFL players? Like who cleans house like this in the middle of the season. What is this gonna do? It's not like you have some top twelve quarterback who's underachieving. Your quarterbacks are eight and O'Connell, who ninety nine percent of sports fans couldn't

point out of a lineup. And Gardner Minshew, who is the ultimate backup quarterback, and if you put him on a good team and he has a right coach, he could be kind of competitive like every other game. If you put him on an awful team with bad coaching. You are fucked. I mean you should bet against that team every single week. Angles are in shambles, in absolute shambles. And you looked up and Joe Burrow's like, ooh whoop, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown.

It's like the Raiders. It is crazy. Listen, years change, presidents, change weather changes one thing never one thing never changes, always stays the same. Is the Raiders suck? It is insane. How crappy this franchise is. Okay, this was a game that has been circled on the calendar the last several years because it's usually had huge playoff implications. It's had

huge implications for the division and for home field. But now the Cowboys s think and the Eagles are basically battling the Commanders and they are currently a massive favorite on the road in Dallas. Obviously, Dak Prescott injured his handstring out. You have Ceedee Lamb hurt his shoulder week to week. Who knows if he's gonna play before we get into the Cowboys watching the Eagles. And this is why I picked him to start the year. I don't

think we can. I think people underestimated how much talent is on that team. I also think people underestimated how good Saquon Barkley is if he's healthy. He is such a difference making player. He is just the total package as a runner. Can run inside, can break tackles, can go off tackle, can go outside, runs, sweeps pitches, you

get him in space. He's got elite speed. Obviously the play that went viral doing the three sixty the backwards hurdle like he's an all time athlete and he's got elite speed and power like this guy is a game changing player to go with DeVante Smith, who's a no doubt about it contract extension guy. The Eagles already that and aj Brown went healthy, which you know he's battles some injuries. Is easily one of the best wide receivers

in the league. They have a good offensive line, they have, you know, a quarterback who's playing at a high level and when he's proven, when he runs like he's a very very effective player. And they got Vig Fangio on defense with a ton of talented players. Linebacker can be a little bit of a question mark, but a lot of young defensive linemen that this team is oozing with talent. Now their coach is like a drunk dude at a

blackjack table hitting on seventeen and eighteen. It is a wild ride, it really is, you know, going forward on fourth and shorts going for it on two pointers instead of just kicking the field goals. He's very entertaining, he really is. And that game, you know against the Jags little freakish. It was close. They're up twenty two to nothing. The Jags score like the next player or two. Saquon does you know a fumble where he just falls on the ground by himself, ball hits the ground, You're not

technically down because no one hits you. Jacks pick it up and return it for a touchdown. So and then listen, the Jags got two two pointers, so it was twenty two to sixteen. You're like, WHOA. I started thinking, if Sirianni blows this to Doug Peterson, Joe l Embiid is completely off the hook. But he didn't. He handled it. Nikobe Dean made a great pick on an awful play by one of the most overrated players in like the

history of America and Trevor Lawrence. But listen, the Eagles, like this team is gonna win twelve for thirteen games on talent alone. Now do we trust him when they get to the playoffs. With Sirianni just kind of reckless nature, you never quite know what's gonna happen. It's gonna be a wild ride, must watch television, big win for the Eagles, But they go into Dallas and all signs pointing to them kicking the shit out of them. I actually think if you're a Cowboy fan, this is a good thing.

Cause listen, it was clear early on, yeah, probably not a playoff team. Now it's kind of clear you're headed for a disastrous season. Let's use the Chargers last year as an example. Their season fell off the rails. It ended up twofold. I mean two things happened. Right, landed Jim Harbaugh and landed top picks in every round. Well, they found their starting right tackle who's a stud in

Joe Alt because they drafted fifth. Then they also drafted high in the second round, and they got Lad McConkey, who's gonna be a high end player in the NFL for a long time. And they got other guys in the draft. Obviously, they really like when you have an awful season and you're not gonna make the playoffs. You are much better off going six and eleven and drafting eighth then going eight to nine in drafting fifteenth, because it's not just about the first round, it's literally about

every round. So in the second round you are drafting thirty ninth or forty first. How often do we see guys at the top of the second round become impact All Pro players. So clearly the Cowboys are going to have a new coach. Mike McCarthy's not going to be extended. They're going to blow it all up, rightfully, so, but

this job, to me becomes way more desirable. Obviously, Jerry's a wild card, not an easy environment to work in, and they have a ton of high priced players right Dak's making two hundred CDs, make it over one hundred. Parson has to get paid this offseason. They have three guys they're invested in that make as much money as any other team's three guys. It's a boatload of cash they have invested in this guys. You got to hit

on draft picks. I think they've drafted pretty well over the last couple of years, but now gives you an opportunity to draft premium players because it is hard to draft at twenty five right, because it's not just twenty five on Thursday night in round one. Twenty fifth in the second round is twenty fifth in the third round. You're just picking at the end of the rounds for all seven rounds. Now, obviously you can manipulate it and

trade up, but like, look at the Chargers. The Chargers have a long way to go, and we'll get into them in a minute, but like, the easiest way to just get the train back on the tracks is to utilize Once you get a new coach, a new administration that you feel comfortable knows what they're doing. Now, part of Jerry's job this offseason gonna be to land his gym Harbaugh. Is that Bill Belichick? Is that Mike Frable,

I don't know. But if they get the coach right, you can really take advantage of a draft after a bad season. Because the Cowboys for three straight years have been drafting twelve or excuse me, I mean, have been winning twelve games. They haven't been sniffing, drafting in the top ten of the rounds. And now, like this season clearly is gonna suck, the rest of the year is gonna be rough. It is could get uglier. As Dak said, we bleep and suck, and he's not wrong. They do.

They're a tough watch. So the silver lining is the draft, and you want to be as crappy the rest of the season as possible. I don't think, you know, winning one or two more games the rest of season, that is not the worst thing. Speaking of chaotic franchises, it was last year at this time that the Raiders, and rightfully so, fired Josh McDaniels, who, like his previous stop in Denver, had become the first head coach in NFL history to not make it past year two in either

spot of his head coaching tenures. Obviously, they fired the general manager as well. Well, then they go all in on Antonio Pierce and he gets the pick of the litter, like you get to hire any staff you want. And he hires some guys lou Getzi, which everyone's like, are we sure luke Getzy's any good? The iires Rich Skangarello, who is kind of a laughingstock within NFL circles, and he also hires the assistant offensive line coach from the

forty nine Ers. Well, last night some people text me, I'm trying to fall asleep at like eleven twelve o'clock, and it's sometimes hard after football nights, you gotta kind of come down. I'm just laying there, wide awake, but I don't want to look at my phone because I remember these Chip Kelly talked about he brought in these Navy seal guys that like, when you put the phone close to your eyes late at night, you trigger something in your brain. You're just making it worse trying to

fall asleep. So I try to be careful with that phone in my eyes when I'm laying in bed, like past like ten thirty eleven o'clock. So people are texting me about the Raiders firing somebody, and I'm not really paying attention. And when I get up this morning, I realized they didn't just fire their offensive coordinator, they fired three people. It really is kind of sad how bad Mark Davis has been because i'mlike Dan Snyder, which by all accounts was like legitimately a bad people hated working

there and it was just an embarrassment. I do think Mark's heart is in the right place. He is really trying to do the right thing right. He goes from Gruden, who gets fired midseason that was out of his control. Then he gets an offseason, he goes, listen, we have the special teams coach that everyone likes of the interim, but I got the opportunity to hire Josh mc daniels and his general manager from Belichick. I think this is

worth the risk. Blows up in his face. Then he kind of goes back to I should have hired the interim coach. You got players on your team telling you to hire Antonio Piers. He does. Then Cliff Kingsbury won't take the job because your organization is a little cheap.

You'll only offer him two year contract. Washington's like, we'll give you three, partly because you don't fully trust Antonio Piers and you don't want to be obligated for more years if you got to end up firing everybody, which in a weird way, was the right call by the Raiders and also the right call by Cliff. Go their separate ways. Clearly he's going to change Cliff's life being

in Washington. Coach and Jane Daniels. The Raiders just blow everyone out who I don't think would have been hired as coordinators anywhere, and now you just have this chaotic hamster wheel that never ends. And the Raiders were able to be much more ruthless in this modern day situation of the franchise because the media deals worth more, they have more money. Vegas is worth dramatically more than the disastrous Oakland situation. He just has money to pay guys.

A couple million dollars, a couple of million dollars pay guys to go away, because even if they only gave this offensive coordinator a two year deal, like he's probably making one and a half million dollars a year, So Mark Davis is probably paying him over two million just to not work. Talking about the American Dream. One time, I've been paid to go away and it was I don't remember. Maybe it was ten grand, maybe it was twenty grand. It felt like at the time a lot

of money. I can't imagine being paid over seven figures to not work. It's like, wait, I'm really rich, and I don't have you telling me not to come into the job. You would be surprised how often I talk to people around the NFL that say, person X, who's a general manager, who's a coach, who's an assistant coach. His fingers are crossed that they fire him. He would die to be paid to leave this situation. He is miserable. They're humans too, and you get put in these positions

where you're stuck. Listen, I'm not crying for these guys. They are making a boatload of money. We're talking about one percenters. Life is good. It's like, what about their children, Well, yeah, okay, maybe they off the move. They're still going to private school and they can still get, you know, a eighty thousand dollars car for him on their sixteenth birthday. So like their problems are first class problems. Plus they chose

this profession. Part of coaching is moving. I don't feel sorry for you there, pick another job if you don't want to move around. It's part of the gig. That's why it pays a premium. But I just feel like the Raiders are just so poorly run and this is never gonna end. And this is not a Dan Snyder situation where it's just like he's just a bad guy. Everyone likes Mark. He is literally trying to win, but it's just not gonna work with him as the owner.

Like we have enough evidence now it's the same shit every year. It literally never ends. They fire coaches in the middle of the season more than any franchise. It really is nuts. It's always a coordinator here, an offensive coordinator here, a defensive coordinator there, a head coach there, a head coach there. It never ends. Everyone made fun of Al Davis at the end of his life, right he was going through a coach here, coach there, firing

people on stop. This is the same situation, just at a higher level because they have more and they have some good players on the team. Get rid of DeVante. Now you got Max Crosby. The owner says, we won't trade Max Crosby. You're going nowhere, and you're going nowhere fast. Your team is a joke. And to me like this is I just think we have enough evidence as long as the Davis family owns this team, this is never

going to change. It really is not, because I think we can already see the light at the end of the tunnel. In this situation, is Antonio Pierce so one and done. It's clearly on the table. How could you argue otherwise like he is, he's safe. In what world would a guy that fires three coaches? November one, essentially his first year is the full time head coach safe. In any other situation, a coach that blows guys like this out in the middle of the season, you'd be like, well,

his job is next. And this is the thing, Like, would anyone be shocked if the day after the season Antonio Pierce has fired, Tom tellesco is fired. It never ends. And I feel for Raider fans because in a league where every team it feels like, has moments, they just never do. They not only never win, they always suck. They don't even They're at the point now where the majority of their games you don't need to watch. They

are completely irrelevant. And I hear all these people say this all the time, these older people around the NFL, the league is better when the Raiders are good. And the answer is that's just not true, because for the last twenty plus years, the league has never ever been more popular and made more money, and the Raiders for the last fifty years have never been more irrelevant to the landscape of winning and losing because they always lose. And now they're in a division with Andy Reid and

Patrick Mahomes. Who is I don't know easily if Belichick and Brady because they got six or one A. They gotta be one B in my lifetime. You got Jim Harbaugh, who are about to dive into is just a winning machine. And Sean Payton and Bo Nicks like you can just see the trajectory of the franchise. They are dramatically better than they were last year, and next year I would imagine they'll be dramatically better than they were this year as they get more and more money once they get

rid of that Russell Wilson cap space. I just feel sorry for this fan base because what are you supposed to do? I mean, you're just stuck and you just know the outcome and you try to sell yourself in the off season maybe this is the year, maybe we can compete, And then it's not even Halloween. You're like, yeah, we just suck again. How does this happen? I don't know. Speaking of the Chargers, and listen, part of football is most of these owners, the difference of them all is

you just hire the right guy or you don't. And there is an element of luck and randomness in all this. Right, the Chargers have been the better version of the Raiders for the last twenty years. But they are synonymous with that franchise because they also have just found ways to lose on a higher level, and they have made the playoffs more consistently, and they have had better teams. But like the Raiders, it was always easy to make fun of them because they always went cheap on the coach.

You're like, how is this team not better than it is? It's like, well, they have the second lowest paid coach in the league. That's what I've always given credit to Mark Davis. He has really tried when he does not have the money to I mean now he does, but at the time when he hired Gruden, it was a really aggressive move. They hadn't moved yet, he didn't have the influx of cash. He said, I give the guy a hundred million dollars. Then a couple of years later,

I'll give Josh McDaniels eighty million dollars. It blew up in his face. But I give you credit for being aggressive, because you know, if you get that guy right, it changes the landscape where you're heading. Dean Spanos has always been the opposite. It's like, we could give me Mike McCoy for two million dollars, give me Brandon Staley for four million dollars, give me Anthony Lynn for three and a half million dollars. It's like, Dean, this isn't that complicated.

Why your team is underachieving because you need a coach that is worth three or four x what you're paying this guy. And this offseason, the heavens aligned. Jim Harbaugh wanted out because the NCAA was coming after his ass but I got an asking price. I cost sixteen million dollars a year, and the coaches I'm bringing with me, Zach Minter, my defensive coordinator, he ain't cheap either. He probably he makes close to what Anthony Lynn and Mike

McCoy were making. Maybe Brandon Staley made a little more than him, But my guess is he makes two and a half three million dollars and Jim's well over fifteen. And guess what happens in Jim Harbaugh's last three stops the San Francisco forty nine ers in twenty ten or six and ten his first year in twenty eleven, they were thirteen and three. This is why I told everybody I don't give a shit what their roster looks like. I don't care how limited. Their wide receivers are. I

don't care. How bad do you think their depth is? This fucking guy does one thing, and one thing only. He wins everywhere he goes, and the first thing he does is turn that thing around immediately. I'm not saying he's gonna win the Super Bowl year one. I wasn't say he was gonna win the National Championship year one. But he ain't gonna lose his first year at Michigan. Remember in twenty fourteen, his last year with the forty nine Ers, the Mission and Wolverines went five and seven.

Harbaugh's first year, they went ten and three. Last year the Chargers, I think we even forget this because this ten months removed, they went five and twelve. Five and twelve. They drafted last year ahead of the New York Giants. Think about that, How shitty we view the New York Giants, How bad they have been. The Chargers drafted ahead of the New York Giants. The Chargers drafted ahead of the Tennessee Titans. Think think how many bad teams the Chargers

drafted ahead of last year? They were that bad five and twelve. Jim Harbaud November fourth, currently has five wins. His records for the last three spots were sixteen and twenty nine. He's out even halfway through this season, he's twenty eight and nine, and I would imagine five. I mean he's at minimum winning five more games. Bet he gets to eleven, so you're talking six, he's gonna have thirty four wins. That is almost in three spots year one,

almost a twenty win difference. Assuming he gets to eleven wins. Who knows to me, I go to twelve. Look at a schedule. It's crazy. How good this guy is. It really is. And yeah, he's a weirdo, and yeah he talks sometimes all over the map, and he's just a different cat. He's a borderline nut job. But he is a football savant and whatever the hell he does, and I've heard this forever, well he doesn't call the plays. He's got of a meat heead. You can give me

any fucking excuse you want about the guy. All I know is his resume speaks for itself. In this industry more than any other, you can quantify a guy is a good or bad based on one thing. What's his win loss record? And everywhere this guy goes that loss to win ratio is always like you're losing way more than you're winning. And then you get Jim and that pendulum immediately flips, and all of a sudden, within a couple of years, you're competing for Super Bowls, you're competing

for national championships. And once he got that monkey off his back, which was a really big deal because I listen, if you wanted to be critical, he could never win the big one, like history was on your side up until twenty twenty three, and the moment he beat Nick Saban in the Rose Bowl, it was on like Donkey Kong. Clearly he matched up really well against Washington and de Boor kicked his ass. National champs. If they do a

good enough job building this thing. They're not good enough this year, they might not even be good enough next year. But within a couple of years. He currently has Justin Herbert, who last year everyone's like, what the hell's going on with Justin Herbert? Stop comparing him to mahomes Lamar and Josh Allen. He's over sixty five percent with receivers that are meh at best. He has ten touchdowns in one interception,

and I don't think the numbers do him Justice. When you watch him play, you go, yeah, there's a big four. There's Mahomes, Lamar Allen. There's basically one, one B in one C and then there's two because this guy's that good. And I told Colin you could throw Matt Stafford in there as well. That would probably be the top five as we sit here today, just in terms of physical

gifts and everything. Obviously, Jared Goff's having an incredible season, but we all acknowledge, like Jared Geff doesn't have these guys physical gifts. Herbert at any moment can run thirty yards right, and obviously he can throw it a mile long, so can the other guys. Lamar probably has the worst arm out of the group, but he's by far the best athlete, and he's become so accurate. And I'm not saying his arms bad, but relative to like Josh Allen, Justin, Herbert,

Matt Stafford, it's not quite that, even though it's really good. Obviously, Jared Goff, like I just I don't put him in that category, even though he's having an elite season. And I just think Jim Bak andngrats Man because you are a certified ass kicker, Okay, a couple of NFL notes Christian McCaffrey and listen, I'm recording this basically twenty four hours before the trade deadline, so we'll see what happens.

But if this guy is healthy by far, unless Miles garrettor Max Crosby is traded, the biggest trade acquisition will beat Christian McCaffrey, a guy that has not played this season. If he comes back and he looks eighty five ninety percent of what he was, that is a massive addition. And that puts the forty nine ers not just back into the playoff conversation, but like into the NFC landscape. Remember they beat the Packers in the Lions last year. Like this was a team that has owned the Rams.

This is a team that last year played the Eagles and beat the living piss out of them. So they are going to be very comfortable playing all these teams. Now, you could argue the Lions are better this year, and the other thing, the Lions are gonna have his home field advantage more than likely. And what I know whether like the Eagles only have one game difference, the same with Washington. So we'll see how the season plays out.

But the Niners are not gonna have home field advantage like they did last year, so they will have to go on the road. Well, I've seen him go to Dallas, I've seen him go to Green Bay and win playoff games.

They have done it before. They're comfortable in that environment, and I just think they're a team that if Christian McCaffrey comes back and he looks the part, watch out because that is as big of an addition you can make during the trade deadline, unless, like I said, Max Crosby or Miles Garrett, which all signs point to they will not be dealt. Though if I were those teams,

I would highly entertain trading him both. You know, someone texted me today a buddy in the league was like, remember when Adam Peters took a bunch of crap during the like his quarterback search when he basically went up to the last couple of days and he went to top Golf and he did a lot of work right up until the end on what quarterback he was going to draft, right because he knew Caleb Williams, who the Bears basically acknowledged they were going to draft six months

before they even know the draft came about, Like they knew they were drafting him in the fall, and Adam Peters took a lot of shit. Their story is not written. And I said this to Colin, and I said this on my podcast. By no means are you putting anything in concrete or in sharpie. But as we sit here right now, the gap between these two players is a mile wide. And the one thing Caleb's gonna have to overcome that now, Jaden, it looks like the Washington Commanders

is gonna be well run. Is not is a franchise that just doesn't really know what they're doing for this very historic, this huge brand and this massive city that has this huge fan base. The Bears historically are kind of a joke the last I don't know, fifteen years. I mean, their owner feels like she's one hundred and fifty years old. They're very cheap, and it reflects what we're watching this season, ever, flews completely over his head

and the last two weeks are complete embarrassment. And then you got Jayden, who just has dominated kind of from day one, who has a real coach and now a real competitive owner and a GM that has won rings with multiple teams, who was the most qualified general manager candidate probably the last twenty years. So it is funny how things age. Adam Peters taking these guys to top golf, does he know what he's doing? Meanwhile, the Bears, it's

like they zeroed in on Caleb Williams. Should maybe they have done a little bit of research on Jayden Daniels because you just watch the guys play physically. Part of the knock was Caleb's all time physical freak. What the hell's the difference, Jaden elite arm, Jaden better athlete, So it's easier for him to see he definitely has more touch.

Now you could argue it's just confidence, right, and Caleb's lost his because he's playing for an organization that just ruined your confidence, which okay, But how often are we gonna make excuses? Is it gonna be like year four or five like we're doing with Trevor Lawrence.

really well, of course, not awful decision. So I just think sometimes it's funny how stories happening around the draft where we just give a guy a bunch of credit and then we're critical of another guy, and then six months later we look back and we're like, eh, that was a pretty terrible take. That wasn't one of my takes. I mean, I have everyone freaking out about top golf. It's like, who would have thought six months later the Washington has the best quarterback by a pretty wide margin. Okay,

let's do a little mail back, nothing too long. I'll get to a lot of mail bags over the course of this week. So John Midlcoff is the Instagram. Fire in those dms. If you're watching this on YouTube, fire in my Instagram dms, you're listening on the podcast, phone wide open, Holler at me. I've got this question a lot. Obviously, there are a lot of Bears fans who are very, very not just obviously down on the coaching staff, but question the quarterback. And basically this question is it looks

like Caleb Williams is relearning the position. He looks hesitant to make decisions. Whenever he bombs it, it looks predetermined. He never hits it. He can't sit in the pocket and make go through progressions. It doesn't help to play for the Bears. Waldron and the coaching staff are idiots, but Caleb is flat out missing guys. And this has been a theme question we get daily and obviously after Sunday when he looks bad, consistently people ask these questions,

and people thought I was being a hater. And after they played Carolina and Jacksonville, like I told Colin, like I'm sorry. I'm just not going to anoint them after beating those two teams. Jacksonville's defense is a joke, Carolina. I mean, unless you're playing Dennis Allen is going to lose to everybody. They are not very good either, so when they play real teams. They did Houston early in the season, he was overmatched because the offensive line's overmatched.

You see him against Washington, He's hideous. Ninety five percent of the game does make He is very talented, but just in terms of playing quarterback, there's a difference between he has the physical skills. Anthony Richardson has a lot of talent, can't play quarterback. Caleb's a better obviously than Anthony Richardson, but he's much closer to that than he is to just being a good player. And we can blame the coaching. I do think Ryan Poles deserves shit too.

I love Romadunza. I would want Roma Donsay on my team. But if they could do it over again, you cannot convince me that they wouldn't have taken an offensive lineman at number nine. You just can't convince me they got Keenan Allen, cole Comet Swift, and Dj Moore and you could have just, I don't know, signed two or three undrafted free agents and let the cream rise. Roam's a good player, but that was not what they needed. They

had a good defense, they needed offensive lineman. So the offensive line isn't good and he feels rattled, and the coaching staff's bad, and it's all directly tied to each other. So do I think the guy's going to be a bust? I do not, But he's got a long way before we just call him a good player because right now he's not a good player. He's just not a good player. He's got talent, but he when you watch him, does not play well. Are the Panthers having a historically bad

two seasons? Obviously, in terms of wins, there's not much to cheer about. But in my life I can't remember someone having back to back number one overall picks, which the Panthers are on track to do unless they put together a two game win streak. This was before the Saints game against the Saints and the Giants, well, they won one game. Can you imagine getting up early to watch Panthers Giants, which is an international game. I love it when there's an international game that is just completely

irrelevant if you wake up early. Now, if you live on the East coast, the game kicks off at nine thirty. But if you live on the West coast and you get up, you're you're a sicko, a junkie, because even myself and I've gotten up early, like the Jets game, the Bears game. But this is a game that just does not matter. It just does not matter. And if someone that does this for a living, I have a soft spot for games that just do not matter because I just I can focus on other stuff. I just

don't need to focus. Like there's nothing that can happen in this game that matters. So basically the question is it's hard to even evaluate the organization at this point. Head coach in DC seem like they will be successful, but there is almost zero talent on this roster. Where do the Panthers go from here? Well, I do think I think I heard or read or looked. I definitely looked, but I've heard people say this. There are seven teams right now with two and seven records, so the number

one overall pick. We'll see how this goes. This is actually one of those games that's a huge moment. Neither one of these teams is winning five games, so whoever loses this is in prime position because the Giants have already lost to The Giants lost to the camp Boys, They've lost to Washington twice, and Philly beat him, so they are currently they're zero to four in the division, so I think it's fair to assume they're gonna go

oh and six. If you're the Giants and you're gonna consistently suck this bad, you want that number one or two pick, like you don't want to pick seven. What the hell is the point we just saw last year. It's cool to get my league neighbors, but they would have loved to draft Drake may Is the guy they wanted, and or Jayden, and they didn't have access to him because they were they had won enough pointless games. If I was a betting man right now, I would I

would imagine. Here's a hard part about the NFL is. I was talking to UH one our producers yesterday after we recorded some stuff, and he's a big Commander's guy, lives in the area, and you can't just go win, win, win, that's loss because the team's better in the NFL because even if you win eleven games, you're gonna have some of your eleven wins are gonna be upset wins right where you're like an underdog on the road and you win the game, and some of your losses will be

like a home six point favorite in December. It happens every single year. So like Carolina, New England, Tennessee, all these teams like they're gonna all end up with three or four wins, so they are going to win other games and not all of them are gonna happen against each other. So all of a sudden, you're like, Damn, did Tennessee just beat Houston? Did the New York Giants

just beat the Eagles? It sounds crazy to say out loud, but it literally happens every freaking year, that these games in December that you never think, especially by then you might be like a touchdown favorite at home. Hell, it might be a touchdown favorite on the road and loose, so that it's really hard to go, Yeah, we know all these teams suck, but which one of these teams has a massive upset that we don't see coming? Because it's it's inevitable. It happens every single year a mini rant.

The national narrative behind Ar and Flacco is maddening from a Colt fan who watches every snap as much as I in the world. Like Shane Siken, he has not put Ar in positions to succeed this season. Ar has an average depth of chart target of thirteen yards. This

is easily the highest in the league this season. Without question, Steikan likes to throw the ball deep Ar and rarely gives him easy completions and screens to help sustain drives and move the chains, whereas with Flacco he routinely schemes up easy completions with downs, Pittman on screens, zig routes, drags, etc. All of that is to say, why would the Colts

ever benj R. To go to Flacco this season? Starting Flacco may get us one or two more wins, but it's not like Joe is bringing us to Super Bowl. We have been laughed at the past few seasons for constantly having a carousel of quarterbacks, and now people want to turn on the future at quarterback. This is my issue with that. I hear what you're saying. I'm not trying to defend Stike in here. I don't know the

guy personally. You can't throw intermediate in short routes if you don't think the guy has any touch to throw them. So why don't I throw quick screens or wheel routes because the airmails. Part of the reason I throw deep is because I think that's the only pass that he has the chance to make. Flacco has more touch than Anthony Richson obviously, So I think when you look at the situation with Anthony Richardson, he's the future. That's all

we ever hear at this point in time. No, he might be the future, but he's currently not the present. And as we saw last night, Joe Flacco might not be that good either. He's not me. He's thirty nine to forty years old, like he has limitations. And this is where I think the culture in this awfully weird situation, they had no choice after what happened to do what they did because of the roster, Because how could Ryan Kelly, Pittman,

Jonathan Taylor, Quintin Nelson. They couldn't operate after you tapped out. They could not. It was not possible. Now, maybe after a week or two everyone can take a deep breath, but they had no choice. So I think that move was probably less about the forty four percent completion and more like this guy tapped out in the middle of a game against our division rival, Like that happened. How do I look all my DeForest Buckner in the face?

I mean it's like, hey, DeForest, listen. I know you've played through I don't know seven plus injuries over the last five years, laid your heart, soul, and literally your body on the line for this franchise. But we're gonna keep rolling with Anthony Richardson who were not winning with So I think it was a tough situation. And this is when you draft projects and then you find your

team being pretty competitive. You get yourself in these weird situations, and that's where they're at right now, in this weird situation. Patriot fan from New England. Why is nobody in the media talking about Drake May? Is it just because the Pats suck? All I hear about is Caleb Daniels and even Nicks. In his first two starts, May has thrown for five touchdowns and over five hundred yards. The last rookie to do that was Dan Marino. This is all behind o line. Yeah, listen, you're not the Red Sox

or the Celtics. You remove Ballichick and Brady like you just aren't that relevant. Now, if this guy is good and you start winning, you will be relevant. And again, but right now you don't. Just we're not obligated to talk about you, and you become much more of a local product than you do a national product. And when you're looking like you're gonna win three or four games on the season, people are not breaking down Drake May every game. And for example, you just played the Titans.

Unless you're a Titans or Patriot fan, you do not need to watch that game. You just don't. Now, maybe at the end of the season, if I want to do something like let's break down all the rookie performances, you go back and you look at everything. But when there are real games being played with playoff implications, I mean, honestly, that might have been the low game on the docket

in terms of importance of the entire day. And so it's just you guys were spoiled because for a long, long period of time, you're right there with the Cowboys no matter what wind, loser draw. We're talking Pats, Belichick, Brady, you were at the top of the food chain. You were like the lion in the jungle. Now you're like the muskrat, just trying to survive. So like this, this is what happens when you suck. Question for the mailbag.

Do you think because there are so many rules to protect the quarterback that they seem to be getting softer and are becoming more injury prone. That's a good question. I think when you look around the NFL, the top guys, I mean, Herbert's hurt his ankle, but for the most part, he hasn't missed any time. Stafford's, you know, been pretty durable given that he's been getting his ass kicked. Mahomes never miss his time, Lamar never really misses time, Josh

Allen never misses games. I would say the top dogs, you know, Jared Goss very very durable, Jalen Hurts for running quarterbacks durable, Kyler's been durable as of late. So I would say most of the top guys pretty I mean, it's pretty weird when you see Dak's gonna miss a couple games for a hamstring. It's not often that you see a quarterback hurt his hamstring. But yeah, I don't know. I just think sometimes injuries with quarterbacks gonna be kind

of random, would be. I guess my first reaction to your question, what do you think about the Colts and the benching of aar I think it's an organizational failure to give up so soon knowing he was always going to take longer. If they truly have a team of Vets that want to win now, then why draft him fourth? Overall? It makes no sense. Shane hasn't done a damn thing to help him in terms of play. Call it just as him. They just have him dropping back like he's

prime Philip rivers. What where are the bootleg passes? I would guess, And this is where what I said earlier is it. Shane would say, I'd call bootleg pass and I don't have any faith that he hits it because we run him in practice and the airmails it. Lorady skips it. He's not accurate, So like the accuracy is something,

it's very real, Like that's a tangible thing. Now, if you want to make the argument of like, listen, we're not going anywhere with Flacco either, we might as well give this guy as many reps as possible so we at least know by the end of the year, like is this something we want to keep doing or do we already need to pivot, which I think would be a fair argument. But like I said, the moment that happened, your entire team turned on him. This is not this is not a guess, this is not an opinion. It

was clear they turned on them. Ryan Kelly, the heartbeat of the team, one of if not their best players, said yeah, we had to have a talk with him. So like that, this isn't They didn't have a choice. It's like sometimes if you're the CEO or a manager and it's like your employees are gonna there's gonna be a mutiny inside the office, like you gotta do something.

It's the power is taken out of your hands. You either make the change to avoid the mutiny and avoid a riot with your employees and in this case, your locker room, or you just risk everyone turning on everybody in the whole season being a complete waste of time. And to me, that's where they were headed. If they didn't make Flacco the quarterback because of all the comments from the players, Now, could they you know, Flacco was

pretty bad on Sunday night? Could they just go back to them this week and be like, listen, we've talked, are everyone's met with them, We've done a lot of

hard tohearts. But he had multiple comments last week It's like I don't even think he quite gets it, which is understand a young kid just doesn't quite understand what he doesn't even understand, which is a problem because they got so many like DeForest Buckner, Ryan Kelly, Quintin Nelson like these are pretty Jonathan Taylor, like pretty high level cats, you know, and you got this guy, this naive player who doesn't even understand what's at stake here and then

also isn't playing well. It's a powder keg of disaster. And that's where I think they're in this weird spot. Like if you want to blame the coach and the GM have at it, you're not wrong. If you want to blame Anthony Richardson, blame him. I mean yet last night collins Worth talking about the benching and they show him Listen, sometimes we just we yawn, nothing we can do. They go to him on the sideline and he yawns. I mean, you talk about the timing. It couldn't have

been any worse. Anyone that's played pee wee football let alone the pros like, you don't you don't want to get cut yawning by a coach let alone on television now late game tired, he's not playing. I don't even think it's that crazy, but the timing of it was like, I feel bad for this kid. He can't catch a break, but it is what it is. And now you got this situation where they're kind of up Shit's creek without a paddle because there's no way to get a quarterback.

You invested heavily in this guy, and the only way for him truly to get better is eventually. Obviously there are things he can do in practice and stuff, but like he's got to get more game reps, and to give them more game reps, there's a chance that you just lose and he just sucks in those games, which is a big problem. So I don't know, man, I feel for you Colts fans because this eas and it feels like got away from you really fast. The volume mm hmm