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"The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player Analysis

Erik Torenberg, Nathan Labenzwww.cognitiverevolution.ai
A biweekly podcast where hosts Nathan Labenz and Erik Torenberg interview the builders on the edge of AI and explore the dramatic shift it will unlock in the coming years. The Cognitive Revolution is part of the Turpentine podcast network. To learn more: turpentine.co
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Episodes

Shortwave Rides the Tidal Wave: Inbox Agents, Hyper-Growth & Hiring AI Managers, with CEO Andrew Lee

In this episode of the Cognitive Revolution podcast, Andrew Lee, founder and CEO of Shortwave, returns to discuss the rapid advancements in AI over the past year and how they have significantly improved Shortwave, an AI email assistant. Andrew shares insights into the exponential growth of Shortwave's revenue and the enhanced capabilities of their AI, which now functions more like a virtual assistant. They delve into various use cases, the technical evolution of their platform, the impact of new...

Mar 29, 20251 hr 52 min

Code Context is King: Augment’s AI Assistant for Professional Software Engineers, with Guy Gur-Ari

In this episode of the Cognitive Revolution, Guy Gur-Ari, Co-Founder and Chief Scientist at Augment, explores the transformative impact of AI on the software industry. Highlighting Augment's unique approach, Gur-Ari discusses the challenges and solutions associated with integrating AI into large codebases, the nuances of maintaining context in AI-driven coding tools, and the evolving economics of AI-driven businesses. He shares insights on the company's focus on reinforcement learning from devel...

Mar 27, 20251 hr 26 min

Unlocking Cells' Secrets: Diffusion, Deconvolution, & Discovery with Siyu He, author of Squidiff & CORAL

In this episode of the Cognitive Revolution, we hear from Siyu He, a postdoc at Stanford specializing in biomedical data science. Siyu discusses the implications and methods behind their recent AI-driven biological research papers, Squidiff and CORAL. The conversation explores the use of AI models to analyze complex cellular systems and disease mechanisms, focusing on transcriptome and tissue sample analyses. Squidiff aims to simulate cellular transcriptomes to predict outcomes of various condit...

Mar 23, 20251 hr 46 min

a16z on AI Voices: Call Centers, Coaches, and Companions with Olivia Moore & Anish Acharya

In this episode of The Cognitive Revolution, host Nathan Labenz speaks with Andreessen Horowitz partners Olivia Moore and Anish Acharya about the rapid evolution of voice AI technology and its real-world applications. The conversation explores how multimodal models, reduced latency, and improved emotional intelligence are enabling more natural voice interactions across various platforms including Hume AI's Octave model, Google's NotebookLM, and Sesame. Nathan and his guests discuss compelling bu...

Mar 19, 20251 hr 8 min

Agency over AI? Allan Dafoe on Technological Determinism & DeepMind's Safety Plans, from 80000 Hours

Join us in a deep dive with Allan Dafoe, Director of Frontier Safety and Governance at Google DeepMind. Allan sheds light on the challenges of evaluating AI capabilities, structural risks, and the future of AI governance. Discover how AI technologies can transform sectors like education, healthcare, and sustainability, alongside the potential risks and necessary safety measures. This episode provides a comprehensive look at the intersection of technology, safety, and governance in the rapidly ev...

Mar 15, 20253 hr 2 min

China's Tech Tightrope: Power, Regulation, and the AI Race with Angela Zhang

In this intriguing episode, Professor Angela Zhang discusses the complex landscape of China's technology sector and regulation. The conversation explores China's approach to AI, the evolution of its tech giants, and the interplay between government and private enterprises. Zhang emphasizes the importance of firsthand experience in understanding China and highlights key insights from her book, 'Highwire,' which delves into China's regulatory strategies and policies. The dialogue also touches on g...

Mar 12, 20251 hr 32 min

Historic AI Developments & the Emerging Shape of Superintelligence, from the Consistently Candid Podcast

In this episode, we discuss the significant advancements and challenges in the field of artificial intelligence over the past year. From breakthroughs in reinforcement learning to unexpected behaviors in fine-tuned models, we cover a wide range of topics that are shaping the AI landscape. Key discussions include the rapid progress of reasoning models, the surprising results from alignment studies, and the potential for AI to become superintelligent. We also explore the emerging importance of AI ...

Mar 08, 20251 hr 58 min

Frontier Models for Frontier Science with Professor Derya Unutmaz, Immunologist & ChatGPT Pro Grantee

In this episode of The Cognitive Revolution, Professor Derya Unutmaz, a biomedical scientist and human immunologist at the Jackson Laboratory, discusses his groundbreaking research in aging and cancer immunotherapy. As a ChatGPT Pro grant awardee, Derya provides insights into the integration of AI with biomedical sciences, emphasizing how advanced AI models are transforming hypothesis generation, data analysis, and scientific discovery. He also covers his early passion for computers and programm...

Mar 06, 20251 hr 33 min

US-China Relations: History, Culture, and AI Competition, with Noah Smith, from Econ 102

In this episode, the host Nathan Labenz and economist Noah Smith delve into the complexities of U.S.-China relations, the motivations behind the United States' export controls and the broader geopolitical tensions. The discussion covers the perceived threats posed by China's technological advancements, especially in AI, and the implications for global stability. The conversation includes an analysis of economic decoupling, military deterrence, and the historical context of U.S.-China cooperation...

Mar 01, 20251 hr 10 min

The Adversarial Mind: Defeating AI Defenses with Nicholas Carlini of Google DeepMind

Nicholas Carlini from Google DeepMind discusses adversarial machine learning, challenges in defending against AI attacks, and the balance between AI security and accessibility. He explores techniques to break AI defenses, the role of intuition, scaling attack methodologies, and the implications of open-source AI, highlighting the complexities of balancing security with accessibility in emerging AI technologies.

Feb 27, 20252 hr 35 min

New Jersey’s AI Moonshot: Governor Phil Murphy on Partnerships, Progress, and Preparedness

Phil Murphy, the Governor of New Jersey, joins Nathan to discuss his proactive approach to AI and its potential transformative impact on society. Governor Murphy shares insights from a pivotal dinner with AI thought leaders that spurred New Jersey's ambitious AI initiatives, including the establishment of the NJ AI Hub with Princeton University. He elaborates on current applications, like the AI assistant used by state employees, and discusses broader implications for local governance, workforce...

Feb 22, 202556 min

Inference Scaling, Alignment Faking, Deal Making? Frontier Research with Ryan Greenblatt of Redwood Research

In this episode, Ryan Greenblatt, Chief Scientist at Redwood Research, discusses various facets of AI safety and alignment. He delves into recent research on alignment faking, covering experiments involving different setups such as system prompts, continued pre-training, and reinforcement learning. Ryan offers insights on methods to ensure AI compliance, including giving AIs the ability to voice objections and negotiate deals. The conversation also touches on the future of AI governance, the ris...

Feb 20, 20253 hr 21 min

An Application-Free Future? Speaking Directly to Data with illumex CEO Inna Tokarev Sela

In this episode, Inna Tokarev Sela, CEO of illumex, delves into the latest advancements in AI and data management. She discusses the foundational vision behind illumex, a company she started in 2021 to revolutionize the way businesses interact with data. Inna explains illumex's approach to creating application-free futures for knowledge workers by utilizing metadata to automate context and reasoning, ensuring efficient and secure data handling. The conversation covers illumex’s techniques for in...

Feb 15, 20251 hr 31 min

Claude Cooperates! Exploring Cultural Evolution in LLM Societies, with Aron Vallinder & Edward Hughes

In this episode, Edward Hughes, researcher at Google DeepMind, and Aron Vallinder, an independent researcher and PIBBSS fellow discuss their pioneering research on cultural evolution and cooperation among large language model agents. The conversation delves into the study's design, exploring how different AI models exhibit cooperative behavior in simulated environments, the implications of these findings for future AI development, and the potential societal impacts of autonomous AI agents. They ...

Feb 12, 20251 hr 33 min

Software Supernova: Lovable's "Superhuman Full Stack Engineer" to Transform Idea to App in Seconds

In this episode of the Cognitive Revolution, founder Anton Osika and AI engineer Isaak Sundeman from Lovable.dev, discuss their AI coding platform that allows users to describe software in natural language and have it built by AI. They delve into the nuances of using AI for full-stack engineering and the future of human coding. During the episode, they demonstrate building a product comparison app, discussing the integration of AI, backend functionalities, and handling complex API interactions. ...

Feb 09, 20251 hr 35 min

Software Supernova: Bolt.new - The AI Web App Developer In Your Browser

In this episode of The Cognitive Revolution, Eric Simons, founder and CEO of StackBlitz, discusses the transformative impact of AI on the software development industry. Eric delves into the vision and technologies behind Bolt (bolt.new), StackBlitz's groundbreaking AI-driven platform, which enables users to build full-stack applications with ease. He talks about the future of AI in coding, the balance between human oversight and AI autonomy, and the infrastructure that powers Bolt's capabilities...

Feb 09, 20251 hr 27 min

Gemini's Next Frontier: 2.0 Flash, Flash Lite Strategy & Real-Time APIs with Logan K from Google Deepmind

In this episode of the Cognitive Revolution podcast, Logan Kilpatrick, Product Manager at Google DeepMind, returns to discuss the latest updates on the Gemini API and AI Studio. Logan delves into his experiences transitioning to DeepMind and the restructuring within Google focusing on AI. He highlights new product releases, including the Gemini 2.0 models, and their implications for developers. Logan also touches on the future of AI in text-to-app creation, the impact of reasoning and long conte...

Feb 06, 20251 hr

Distributed Training, Decentralized AI: Prime Intellect's Master Plan to Make AI Too Cheap to Meter

Vincent Weisser and Johannes Hagemann, founders of Prime Intellect, join a conversation on the Cognitive Revolution to delve into distributed training, decentralized AI, and their vision for a future where compute and intelligence are widely accessible. They discuss the technical challenges and advantages of distributed training, emphasizing how such systems can democratize AI technology and create a more equitable future. The founders also describe their broader goal of creating a public utilit...

Feb 05, 20252 hr 19 min

Aaron Levie, CEO of Box, on Box AI, Enterprise Enthusiasm, and the Evolution of SaaS

In this episode, Aaron Levie, Co-founder and CEO of Box, discusses the current landscape of AI and its rapid advancements. He compares the enthusiasm for AI in the enterprise to the initial reluctance faced during the early days of cloud adoption. Levie shares insights into how AI is integrated into both his personal and professional life, highlighting new apps, tools, and features driven by AI. He elaborates on Box's AI initiatives, including the creation of Box AI to manage enterprise content ...

Jan 29, 202557 min

Emergency Pod: Reinforcement Learning Works! Reflecting on Chinese Reasoning Models DeepSeek-R1 and Kimi k1.5

This episode explores the groundbreaking advancements in AGI from recent releases of two Chinese reasoning models: DeepSeek's R1 and Moonshot AI's Kimmy. The discussion delves into the methods, comparative analysis, and implications of these models, particularly focusing on the diverse reinforcement learning techniques employed. Despite computation constraints, these models have achieved significant performance, suggesting a paradigm shift in AI development strategies. The episode also covers th...

Jan 25, 20251 hr 48 min

Material Progress: Developing AI's Scientific Intuition, with Orbital Materials' Jonathan Godwin & Tim Duignan

Jonathan Godwin, founder and CEO of Orbital Materials, alongside researcher Tim Duignan, discuss the transformative potential of AI in material science on the Cognitive Revolution podcast. They explore foundational concepts, the integration of computational simulations, and the development of new materials for various applications such as data centers and combating climate change. They also delve into the latest advancements, including a groundbreaking study on the potassium ion channel, and spe...

Jan 22, 20251 hr 41 min

Dodging Latent Space Detectors: Obfuscated Activation Attacks with Luke, Erik, and Scott.

In this episode of The Cognitive Revolution, Nathan explores the groundbreaking paper on obfuscated activations with 3 members from the research team - Luke Bailey, Eric Jenner, and Scott Emmons. The team discusses how their work challenges latent-based defenses in AI systems, demonstrating methods to bypass safety mechanisms while maintaining harmful behaviors. Join us for an in-depth technical conversation about AI safety, interpretability, and the ongoing challenge of creating robust defense ...

Jan 18, 20252 hr 10 min

Gene Hunting with o1-pro: Reasoning about Rare Diseases with ChatGPT Pro Grantee Dr. Catherine Brownstein

Nathan explores the cutting-edge intersection of AI and rare disease research with Dr. Catherine Brownstein of Boston Children's Hospital and Harvard Medical School. In this episode of The Cognitive Revolution, we dive into how frontier AI models are revolutionizing the diagnosis of rare diseases. Join us for an insightful conversation with a ChatGPT Pro grant winner who's pioneering the use of AI to help patients find answers faster. Help shape our show by taking our quick listener survey at ht...

Jan 15, 20251 hr 33 min

AI AMA – Part 2: AI Utopia, Consciousness, and the Future of Work

In this second part of the special AMA episode, Nathan explores profound questions about AI's future and its impact on society. From painting a picture of AI utopia to discussing the challenges of consciousness and potential doom scenarios, Nathan shares insights on how we might adapt and thrive in an AI-transformed world. Join us for a thought-provoking conversation that delves into the practical strategies for engaging with AI, the role of safety measures, and the importance of maintaining eth...

Jan 08, 20252 hr 2 min

AI AMA – Part 1: OpenAI’s o3, Deliberative Alignment, and AI Surprises of 2024

In this special AMA episode, Nathan answers questions posed by The Cognitive Revolution podcast listeners. He discusses AI developments in 2024, including OpenAI's o3 announcement, deliberative alignment, and the future of AI technology. It is an insightful discussion about AI's impact on education, coding careers, and business sustainability in an AI-driven world. Check out http://aipodcast.ing for AI-powered podcast production services or reach out to Adithyan for more information. Help shape ...

Jan 07, 20252 hr 7 min

Teaching AI to See: A Technical Deep-Dive on Vision Language Models with Will Hardman of Veratai

In this episode, Will Hardman and Nathan Labenz delve into vision language models (VLMs), covering their evolution, key architectures, and practical applications. They explore topics like vision transformers, CLIP model, Flamingo, and InternVL, discussing innovations such as cross-attention and dynamic high-resolution strategies. The episode also touches on benchmarks like MMMU and Blink, and concludes with an overview of frontier labs and the future of VLMs.

Jan 03, 20253 hr 56 min

roon's Heroic Duty: Will "the Good Guys" Build AGI First? (from Doom Debates)

In this episode of The Cognitive Revolution, Nathan shares a fascinating cross-post from Doom Debates featuring a conversation between Liron Shapira and roon, an influential Twitter Anon from OpenAI's technical staff. They explore crucial insights into how OpenAI's team views AI's future, including discussions on AGI development, alignment challenges, and extinction risks. Join us for this thought-provoking analysis of AI safety and the mindset of those building transformative AI systems. Help s...

Dec 28, 20241 hr 58 min

Emad Mostaque on the Intelligent Internet and Universal Basic AI

In this episode of The Cognitive Revolution, Nathan interviews Emad Mostaque, former Founder and CEO of Stability AI and Founder of The Intelligent Internet. We explore humanity's future with AI, from the stark 50-50 survival odds to Emad's optimistic vision for universal basic intelligence. Join us for a fascinating discussion about open-source AI infrastructure, the three-tier system of the Intelligent Internet, and how blockchain technology might help fund global public goods in AI developmen...

Dec 25, 20242 hr 12 min

Can AIs do AI R&D? Reviewing REBench Results with Neev Parikh of METR

In this episode of The Cognitive Revolution, Nathan explores METR's groundbreaking REBench evaluation framework with Neev Parikh. We dive deep into how this new benchmark assesses AI systems' ability to perform real machine learning research tasks, from optimizing GPU kernels to fine-tuning language models. Join us for a fascinating discussion about the current capabilities of AI models like Claude 3.5 and GPT-4, and what their performance tells us about the trajectory of artificial intelligence...

Dec 21, 20241 hr 48 min

Breakthroughs in AI for Biology: AI Lab Groups & Protein Model Interpretability with Prof James Zou

Nathan discusses groundbreaking AI and biology research with Stanford Professor James Zou from the Chan Zuckerberg Initiative. In this episode of The Cognitive Revolution, we explore two remarkable papers: the virtual lab framework that created novel COVID treatments with minimal human oversight, and InterPLM's discovery of new protein motifs through mechanistic interpretability. Join us for an fascinating discussion about how AI is revolutionizing biological research and drug discovery. Got que...

Dec 18, 20241 hr 3 min
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