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Ep. 93 - Bernhard Langer

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Two-time Masters champion and one of the world's leading golfers throughout the 1980s and 1990s, Bernhard Langer, joins Shane Bacon in The Clubhouse to talk about Bernhard's journey as a golfer, starting as a professional at the age of 15 in Germany and winning 10 senior major championships plus much more!

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Welcome to the Clubhouse with Shane Bacon. I am your host, Shane Bacon. This week's Clubhouse episode with Bernhard Langer is brought to you, of course, by o Geo and the Mutant Travel Bag. All the room you'd want when you travel without sacrifice, and the always important security of those

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number three. I feel like he should be near one. He should definitely be ahead of John rom at least in my opinion, but the last number three in the world. Tiger Woods twelfth place, finished best in nearly three years. He looked really solid. He looked like he was strategically playing this golf course, which is something we've seen Tiger do successfully over the course of his career. I liked a lot of the choices he had off the tea, didn't seem to be leaning on the driver as much.

A couple of bad swings on the part of Three's during the bear Trap, but everybody struggles with those wholes. They're really really hard. But good signs from Tiger, that's for sure. A lot of positives coming out of these three weeks that he played. I know he missed the cut at Riviera, but I just feel like he's building towards something impressive, towards something that can actually work in this world, in this two thousand eighteen PGA Tour, and

that's what he needs. So if you can keep finding fairways with fairway woods and stinger irons and maybe the driver out a bit, the putting seems to be there, the iron place seems to be there. And if that's the case, I mean, I guess I have to say it. Tiger Wood's probably going to be a PGA Tour winner in two thousand and eighteen. Exciting stuff. If you missed the Clubhouse newsletter this week, make sure you signed up

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that's a lace. Um. Well enough of me. I was excited to get the talk to Bernhard Langer, the two time Masters champion now has ten champions Tour major wins. Just seems to be defined age and father time and all that stuff that seems to get anybody that spent four or five six years out on the Champions tories sixty years old, and he's still the best player in

that regard. Plus he thinks he could still compete at the Masters, he he said, he thinks that in the right conditions he could maybe at a three third green jacket. Of course, it's sixty. That seems absurd, especially with the distance that Augustin National is these days. But hey, he said, firm and fast, he's got a chance. He'll talk about that and plenty more up next, and we welcome into

the clubhouse for the first time. Two time Master champion and now a record ten, yes, ten Champions Tour Major wins. Is that weird to hear Bernard Longer? Well, it's it's a little weird. But it's been a lot of fun, you know. It's it's always fun to do something no one else has done before, and I'm certainly very blessed to still be at it. Well, my first question for you, I've been asking some players that have jumped on this and and you're gonna have to rack your brain, so

this will be a hard one to start. What are the what was the first full set of like adult golf clubs you ever owned? Do you remember? Yes? I certainly do, because I paid for him myself as a twelve year old. So there were Croydon's. Most people don't probably haven't never that name, but make a long story short. I was caddying from nine years old, and UH saved some money that we only had four clubs as caddies.

It was a two woods three seven iron and I thought it with a bench shaft, and so I always wanted my own clubs and eventually had saved enough money to buy those, and that was you know, it's like Christmas and needs to come by. And how much would you make back in the day for those loops? How much would they pay you for eighteen holes? It was then German. It was like two toutch marks and fifty clinics for nine holes, which is about a dollar for nine holes. Not very much, but it was. It was

a lot for me at the time. You were happy with it. I've caddied before. Any money you get, any time they passed your money in your pocket, you gotta be happy, will you? You turned professional professional at fifteen years old, is that correct? That's correct? Yes? What were you thinking going? Going pro that early. What what was the motivation to go at fifteen? Well, it's actually it's simple. I finished school, uh basic schooling after nine years, and

I had to go to work. So the only way for me to stay in golf was actually working or to play golf, was to work in golf because I didn't have the money. Uh you know, if I just do an average job. There were all private clubs in Germany, I couldn't have afforded it. So I watched the golf instructor, the golf coach we had at our local club, and and enjoyed what he was doing, helping people to play

better golf. So I became a assistant golf professional, learning the trade, you know, working in the pro shop, giving lessons and running events and fixing golf clubs and learning English, all that kind of stuff. And you've been a winner in a in a staple on the European tour since really the mid seventies. At what point through the process did you think to yourself, Hey, I'm pretty good at this. I've got a chance to make this a serious, you know,

a serious long career. Yeah. I was weird because in Germany there was really never anybody that's done anything on any tour in the seventies and even in the early eighties, so I really didn't know what to expect, but I wanted a few events amongst the German pros as an assistant pro and a businessman from Cologne watched me when the German National Close Championship when I was seventeen, and he said, but do you have any aspirations to go

on the tour. Let me know, I might help you financially, and I said, well, I certainly would, and about a year from now so he financed me a little bit and that was you know, I figured, well, I'll give it a few years. If it doesn't work out, you can always go back to teaching, and thankfully it worked out pretty decent. Yeah. I mean it's so much different now. I mean when you look at the way young players go through the processes now, I mean, it is completely

different than than what you went through. Paul Easinger has told me numero times when he went to college to play golf, he couldn't break eighty. I mean, now you're seeing these junior players, you know, that have all the game in the world. I mean, what was your game like when you were fifteen years old, seventeen years old. What was it like compared to maybe a seventeen year old aspiring professional today. Yeah, you know, it was weird

because I was never an amtor. I never had a handicapped, So I was caddied till fifteen, and I would I would be able to play a few caddy tournaments with practice, and I would probably shoot around even part when I was fifteen, and then I gradually got better. And you know, so when I was eighteen, I broke part on on a regular basis. But what exactly what my handicap would

have been, I really have no idea. Well, I mentioned golf changing when you talked to young players, When you talk to somebody, say a fifteen, seventeen, twenty year old European player that that is thinking about taking on the PGG Tour, I mean this, this has really turned into kind of a global golf world that we're in right now. What's the advice you give them as they start to move outside of their comfort zone and prepare to play elsewhere. Well, I would first of all tell them to finish their

education because it's such a fickle game. You know, so many things can go wrong. And there's no guarantee you're going to be successful, and it's very few that are. And it's an extremely difficult profession if you're struggling, if you if you're not very very, very good. Uh, it's tough because you're traveling, you're always away, you have expenses at home, expenses away, you keep missing cuts, you know, have no income, and it's just no fun when you're struggling.

But if you think you can be one of the best, then I would certainly recommend it to you know, pursue the dream, give it a few years and see how it all develops. Well, you you won the Master's in it was your third started Augusta. You were a known entity in Germany, you were known entity around the European tour. How different did life become following that win considering it was on you know, it was on United States soil and it was a major championship. Well, it certainly changed

a lot in my career. I mean I was maybe not that well known in America, but I did finish second in the British opening eighty one. I won the European money List in eighty four, so you know, people should have heard of me. If they watched some of the bigger events. But at the time golf wasn't as global, and you know, most people saw that all the best

golfers come from America, which which was probably true. You know, we had you know, Tony Jackman and Savy Byasnaros had already won British Open and one or two Masters, so he's heard the first on scene. But it was a big break through for me. I'm married in American Women in eighty four, and then one of the Masters which in eighty five, which gave me a ten year full exemption on the tour at the time, which was huge.

I could choose to play in the US or continue play in Europe and worldwide, which I did for the most part, but I also played a little bit more in the US, and uh I had a second home over here, which was great for me because growing up in German in the winter, you know, I was basically no golf for four or five months. Would you you started the day back at eighty six, I mean, you win the Masters in eighty five, you're just a shot

back of Greg Norman. Of course, everybody knows what happened in six, you know, Jack Nicholas wins arguably the greatest final round in the history of of of a Master's not necessarily the best memory for you, But take us back to that day, being on the golf course, being in the mix there, What was the buzz like around that final round? What were the fans like? I could only imagine it was. It was as crazy as it could be considering what was going on around you. It

certainly was. You know, there were loud cheers as you would ever here around Augusta, and you could just send something special was happening, and I wasn't sure what it was, but when I looked at the lead board, I could see Nicholas creeping up near the top. And the amazing thing is everybody else kind of faltered. You know, you had Savy Bias, there's there. You had Greg normanal he needed was part on the last to go on a playoff. You had Tom Kite who had about an eight foot

pot on the last to tie as well. There were all sor two players in the mix and nobody, you know, kind of finished it off in the very end, and uh, you know, the bear came through, and he came through roaring, and obviously everybody was thrilled as an amazing fee too to win his six Masters at and I was very very blessed to just slip the checket on him and then shake his hand and say, well done. This is incredible.

When you go back to Augustine, you play practice rounds with with young players, how do you describe the golf course to them? Because it is a place it seems like that either it fits your aim or it doesn't. I mean we saw Lee Travino struggle there for a long time throughout his career. Of course, we have guys like Jack Nicholas, You, Tiger Woods, Nick Voulo, these types of players that it seems to really fit their golf game.

What do you tell them? What's the advice you give players when you play with them for the first time to get around Augustine hopefully to have similar successes that you've had. Well, the first thing I was telling is really pay attention to the greens where and what you want to miss the green or miss your shot. If you if you miss it, you know so you have an apple pot. Or if you missed the green, you need to miss it on the correct side where you

can get it up and down. Because if you miss it on the wrong side, there's no way you're gonna get it up and down unless you make at sixty pot and that's the key. But Augusta has changed dramatically. I think the golf course has really changed in the In the eighties and nineties, before they made all the changes, um, the fairways were extremely white. It was really I mean, you were upset if you missed the fairway. Literally, they were very generous, and it was all about or mostly

about the second shot. And uh sort did the angle of the second shot, but then also mostly the second shot and putting in the short game. And now it's then they planted five thousand trees, made it much more narrow and much longer, and now it's a tough driving course on on top of you know, second shot is still crucial and we all know how difficult these greens are. You mentioned the greens. Do you think that people overrate putting when they talk about the Masters, because we've seen

guys that have struggled with they're putting win there. I mean Bubba Watson not a historically great putter, Sergio Garcia not a historically great putter. Adam Scott, you know, recently one and not always great on the greens. You you said, you know it's a second shot type of golf course. Do you feel like we had there? Everybody the media always says, you know, you gotta put well, you gotta put well. But it seems like you don't necessarily have

to be a great putter. Almost the greens, you know, make it, make it an equal plane old for everybody. You still need to you still need to make some putts and uh, you need a voice tree putting and tour putting, and you gotta make some putts. But the greens are so pure. Uh. And all these players you mentioned, they may not be the greatest potters weekend and we got but they all have weeks when they do put very well. Um, and you know that that was their

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years old. You've been in contention recently at the Master, So here I'm gonna give you a platform to say it. Do you feel like you still have the game to compete and maybe get yourself in the mix again? In two thousand, eighteen and beyond. Yeah, I definitely feel I have the game to compete. Um. Yeah. At the same time, it is very difficult for me because I'm hitting some guys hit eight and nine irons and uh, I can reach some of the top five's which they can reach.

So I I really need to in my as game either green and on the greens, and you know, I've got to be really precise, not make any mistakes so very few. If if I just play mediocre, I got no chance. While some of the bombers, they can get away with a bunch of you know, not so great shots as they have lots of opportunities for birdies. If if they have a wet tonight and in in the end for the second shots, or if they can reach the path fives into they're gonna make a few eagles or

a bunch of birdies. When you get to the Masters every year, it's six years old. Now, what conditions do you hope to see? I mean, what conditions do you feel like fits your game the best? You needed to be firm and fast, you needed to be wet. What what do you hope to see when you get there to bring out the best in your game and to give yourself a chance. But I'd like to see it firm and fast. It's gonna make the golf course much harder, and it's going to make the golf course a little shorter,

which I think it favors my game. I'm still gonna a few greens because I'm still hitting longer clubs in there, but I I hopefully will miss them in the right places, as I said, where I have a good chance to

get up and down. But if if the golf course is wet, it plays extremely long, and you get a lot of mud balls because they mode the fairways from green to tea, so it's like hitting into the grain on every T shirt and it digs up that Georgia clay, and you know that's no fun when you're hitting three or four and with a little clump of third on the side and you don't know how much it's going to affect it. You turned fifty a decade ago, you won your first season on the Champions Tour. You then

started to reel off multiple win seasons. It's been ten years. How are you able to keep doing this? And most people don't do this like you're doing it. They normally have four or five good years and then they kind of ride off into the sunset. That's not been the case with you. Now. I'm trying to defeat the odds. You know, there's always been there's always been a few that stood out, whether it's Tom Watson tailor in there's there's was a few that are just a little bit

better than than the good average. And I'm trying to be one of those, and so far it's it's worked out. I'm trying to stay healthy, and I really enjoyed um to play the game of golf. I know the clock is ticking and my years are numbered, so I might as well have fun while at lasts and see what happened. You mentioned you like to you you're trying to stay fits, trying to stay healthy. What do you do in that regard? I mean, are you a gym rat, just eat healthy,

lucky with genetics. What are you doing to stay in the best shape you can stay in? Yeah, probably a little bit of everything. I'm I enjoy working out. I've I've done that all my life, even though when I was younger, I enjoyed you know, in the early days, I would go for runs in the in the woods in Germany, and I loved that till my back was so bad that I had to quit jogging. So then I had to, you know, find the stationary bike or something where I wouldn't have the pounding. But I just en,

you know, moving and uh, just stretching. I feel better, I have more energy, I'm not as stiff, and uh, I think it just also creates long chevity. It's good for you. Yeah, I mean, if you were working out early in your career, you had to be one of the few guys that did it. Of course, Gary Player, who has been preaching this forever, loves to tell people what they should do with their bodies, what they should do around the game. Tell me your best Gary Player

workout story that you have. Well, it's, uh, it's a bit off color, so I can't tell that one. But uh, there there's a bunch of I mean, every time you you're running too, Gary, it's something, you know, the latest thing that's been baking. You can't eat any bacon, it will kill you, man, don't eat bacon. And then every time I see him, he goes, look at me, you

know now, I'm eighty two. I just saw him a week ago and we were we were doing a fundraiser together, and he says, yeah, morning, I did a thousand push ups and sit ups. Look at me. Just sit as a whistle. And then he picks his leg and makes a fold turn. And the guy is amazing. I mean, when you compare him with most other eight year olds, he can still make a very big shoulder most people couldn't do. Yeah, it's it's incredible. He cracks me up every time he talks about it. I've had him on

a couple of times. And and my last name is Bacon. He yells at me just about my last name. I'm like, I can you do anything about it? Man? There's nothing I canna do. Yeah, I mentioned you you're you're sixty. You've been doing this for a decade. Some guys go to the tour, go to the Champions Tour, and they never have any successes. Some guys don't want to go at all. A name comes to mind is Greg Norman.

Why is it that some players want to keep pushing and some players hang it up when they basically don't feel like they can compete on the PGA Tour. It just seems like they don't really have a ton of interest to go to the next level. You know. That's that's a great question. I think that in the case of Greg Norman, he probably just some want to put into the work anymore and and uh, you know practice, he's he's had a great career and he's got other interests.

He wants to do other things in life. Uh, and he doesn't want to be beating balls and playing tournaments. I guess, I don't know what you know, Paul Aising and maybe similar he just I thought, like, what, I've been doing this for thirty years and I've I've had enough. I'm not willing to be grinding on the driving range and putting in the work. H to be at the level they want to be, and they don't want to

be just mediocre. They were, you know, some of the best there ever has been, and and that's if they play golf. I think they wouldn't want to play at any other level than to be one of the best. And that takes a bit of work, no matter how old. Yeah. Yeah, it seems like, at least in my years of being around some of these older players, it seems there's really two roads. One is they love golf and they'll always love golf. And the other one is golf was their job job. And I feel like you were in the

in the grouping of you love golf. I mean, do you still really enjoy getting out there and playing, even if it's just eighteen holes, you know, your home course. I mean, is it still a passion for you? Yeah? Most most of the time. I mean, I take a lot more time off now than I ever have in my life because I have other interests and I need a break from the game. I've been doing this on tours and for forty two years. It's a very long time,

so I'm learning to pace myself. I don't love the game enough to I would want to play every single day of the year. I couldn't do that. I need to get away and take breaks. But I love to compete, so I want to get out there, you know, a few times a year and playing tournaments until the adrenaline and and see if I can pull off the shots. And you know, I see that little bit in Nixaldo. He's got to obviously his main focus is television, but

he when he comes out, he still loves to. He still thinks you can do it, you know, and and he works at it and and prank this is and and he still has a lot of the game. You're you're a real calm guy on the golf course. I followed you during practice rounds. I've been out there. You know, when you're playing in major championships and your demeanor doesn't change much. What's the maddest you've ever been on the golf course? Well, that's just to the outside. On the inside,

there's a lot going on. There's there's some storms happening inside at times. But yeah, on the outside, I don't fairly column and I try to be even keel. You know, take the good in the bad because it's it's gonna happen. Once or of colleague of mine say, you know, you've got to forgive yourself for the bad shots, uh, even before they happen, because they will happen. And and I

thought about that, and I thought it was very wise. Um, and it's no good, you know, just once you make a double bogue bogue and then you're mad at yourself for the next hour. That doesn't help you. You've got to get over it. And as as they say, the next shot is always the most important. You were never a a thrower. I mean, you never in your early twenties, you chuck the seven iron. I threw a club. Yeah, last time I really threw a club in anger. I was about seventeen, and uh, I was paired with I

was playing just for a little money. Was my best friends and I was I just three parted from six feed or whatever, and I threw the I had the pottery in my left hand at the short potter, and I was trying to, you know, throw at eight yards down the fairway or something, and the potter got stuck on my glove and it wouldn't release down the fairway. It released, you know, twenty degrees later, and it was

heading straight at my two friends. They were standing about six ft from each other, and it went right between him. And at that point I said to myself, I swore I would never throw a club again, very far. Just you know, I tossed it at that at the back, but I would never throw it again. And I haven't because I could have killed one of them. Yeah. I mean, if you're gonna throw a club but a friend, at least mean to be throwing it at your friend. You

don't want to acident. Only thought of that that's a bad thing. You You brought up putting. I just wanted to ask a couple of questions about putting with you, because it's always, uh, I don't know if you want to call it a hot button issue, but it's always something that people talk about, something that I've heard about you from a lot of people that have played a lot of golf with you. They always talk about your integrity.

Does it bother you internally if you hear people murmuring about the way you put considering you know in your brain that what you're doing is completely fine. Yeah, it bothers me a little bit, to tell you the truth, because first of all, I would never break the rule. That's just you know, we played by the rules of golf.

That's how we're brought up. And I know when the rules changed that I had to change my putting stroke from anchoring to non anchoring, and I found a way to not anchor it and and still use the long potter, and I my first thing was to talk to the rules officials and show them how I putt and explained to them what it what I'm doing and what it looks like and this that you're totally within the rules. You're not anchoring You're fine, and the same thing with

you know, I play in the Masters every year. There's some of the best rules officials in the world. And I've played in the British Open and the Senior British Open and and the p g A Senior p g A Championship. So I'm I'm constantly on TV because I've been playing fairly well. So I'm always under screwed me and I mean, I would be stupid to be breaking the rule. Um plus, that's not me. I try to be a man of integrity and as I said, I

would never do that, and I'm not. I know, I'm not anchoring and I can show it to anybody who wants to see it. Yeah, do you do you have? I mean, have you ever had an open dialogue with with other players that that maybe have have just come up to you and asked, I mean, is that something that that happens ever with you that somebody says, just show me what you're doing. I mean, again, like you said, you're on TV all the time. You're basically you're basically

the Tiger Woods, if you will. Of the champions too, were always on TV. They're showing your shots all the time. Whether they be good or bad. Mean, do you have an open dialogue with people if they come up to you and just ask what's happening? Of course. But it's the funny thing is it's never the players, you know that I play with. It's it's people I don't know that that are writing stories or commentating on TV or I don't know who it is. But it's really not

the players because they can watch me. They can stand next to me, you have six feed away, and they they're paired with me, and they can see that I'm not angry. Do you do you ever mess around with putting? I mean, I know you you've been a guy that that. Earlier in your career you struggled a little bit with putty, and that's obviously why you went to the long putter. Do you ever pull out a short putter these days

and just messing around with it on the green? Do you ever pull out other methods and just see how they feel? Oh? Yeah, I did a lot of that over the years. Um well, I had the yips four times in my career and went to different putting grips, you know, cross ended. Then I put it against my forearm like kuture does now for years. UM. I started that long time ago, actually won my second Masters that way.

And then eventually, even though I thought I would never go to the long potter, UM, I tried it eventually and persevered with it and finally learned how to do it. UM. So yeah, every once in a while, certainly about two years ago, when the anchoring band came into effect, I tried all sorts of potters, short, medium, different groups, different ways, different styles, and actually played a few competitive rounds with

different ways. But at that point I was already using the long potter for seventeen years and put thousands and thousands of hours into that method. So it felt easier for me to not anchor with a long potter than to go to the short putter. But you know, I could probably work out a short potter if I would put thousands of hours, and but that's hard to do it at my age. You don't want to be messing around with that at sixty. That's no fun. You don't want to be on the plating green for for two

hours a day messing with a new putter. Do you ever yell at Matt Coucher when they call it the Coucher method? You tell him. I want the Master's doing this before you were even born. I've talked to him about it, you know. And I see him at the Masters and the Players Championship or a couple of other events in there, and uh, I'll talk to him a little bit and see what he's thinking and about how much loft he has and all that kind of stuff.

How long he's Potter is but he's a lot taller than me, so he's he's aware that I've I was the one started it, and uh, but it works very well for him. And there's another guy who does it very well. That's Soaring Kielsen from Denmark. He's had a lot of success and he's thought it that way for probably. Yeah, you need you need to tell Kucher he's gotta give you some royalties. Tell him you need a percentage of every check he makes. Have he's doing that. Tell me

you you laid the ground. Yeah. Uh, last question for you want to I want to play ping pong with him. I do not want to play ping pong against that guy. Are you a ping pung player? Can you compete with him? Oh? I don't know. I hear it's really good, so I would probably lose thought it would be fun just to see how good he is. Well. My last question is I mean, you know, we've gone twenty six minutes and I haven't mentioned Tiger Woods. That's got to be a

record Tiger backplane. Do you pay attention to that? I mean, do you do you watch and see how he's done? Are you interested to see, you know, if he's able to come back, if he's able to compete At this point of course, I love golf and I'll watch it on TV, and you know, I hear the news and all that stuff, and uh, you know, when Tiger plays, it's news. He's been away from the game for most of the last few years, and it's great to have him back and to have him healthy. And I hope

he does well. I you know, earlier on I always thought he would win a few more majors or the tournaments, and lately, with all the injuries, he said, it's becoming more and more of a question mark. But there's still signs of millions there. So it's just a matter of whether he thinks he can do it and whether you can put four rounds together at the right time. All right, I'll live This is my last question. You said, you watch golf on TV. I do commentating for golf. Um,

I do some of the usg events and such. What's your biggest pet peeve the golf broadcasters do or say that you wish they would change. They kind of focus on the same guys all the time. I would love to see them do what they do in Europe where they show thirty forty different players. Um. You know, they sometimes just focus on three or four guys and they show him standing around waiting for the group I had to get out of the way or to line up

a pat or whatever it may be. When they could show two or three other guys that have shot somewhere else and just show more people. You know, there's a hundred and fifty guys playing. Why are you just focusing on four or five of them? Uh? That's always been one of my issues over here. And if you paid fifty dollars for a ticket, you're gonna go out to a golf turning by yourself on a day, maybe have a beer, maybe have a hot dog, and follow a guy.

Who are you paying fifty dollars to go watch? Who's the one player you want to see in person play? That all depends um. You know, in the in the years ago, I would I would watch Gary Player, who was my golfing idol, and obviously Arnie and Jack Trevino. I thought it was fascinating. I thought he was one

of the greatest ball strikers ever nowadays. You know, I've when I missed the cod at the Master's I would go out with my kids and watch Rory a couple of years ago, and because they wanted to see him, I've I've seen him. I've seen most of these guys, so but you know, there's there's some that are just like Justin Rose or Adam Scott have beautiful golf swing. So it depends what you want to see. You know, you want to see technique and and a pure golf swing, or you want to see Jim Fury who does it

a little bit different but still very successful. Well, Bernard, I appreciate you taking the time. Good luck this week. I know you're headed to Tucson. That's where I went to college, by the way, So have some fun. It always brings back good memories for me and and have a great year. It'll be exciting to watch again. I know, I know you you have goals and expectations for the season, So we'll be watching you and hopefully we'll catch up at the end of the year. Yeah, look forward to it.

Thanks very much for having me on Take Care it looks like I'm a wreck. Big thanks to Bernhard Langer for joining me on the Clubhouse first time. He's been on. Very interesting. Crazy to think how professional golf used to be and how you could be a club pro and come up that way and now it's you know, sponsors, invites and collegiate golf and getting known and being seen on multiple channels. It's just a different time, in different age.

Of course. I love the I love a couple of points he made about some of the older guys that have decided not to uh keep playing as they got closer to fifty. Maybe not as much of a passion of theirs as it is for Bernhard, but he continues to be impressed. It'll be fun to watch him at the mass and beyond. Just a reminder to check out osio dot com. I mentioned the Mutant travel bag. I'm telling you, the thing is awesome. It's huge, it's safe,

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