Ep. 116 - PGA Tour Player Xander Schauffele

when you've kind of collected wins a couple of years in and was Rookie of the Year and one at east Lake and now has a w g C title under his belt, so you know, he's he's one of those next tier guys outside of the you know, the Rory and the Speed and the Keeptic in the DJ and the JT. Those guys are maybe grouped up and then that next crop of players. Sanders right there, and I think he's on a very short list of next May your winner and those guys kind of six years

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basketball coming up. I was doing the math. I have played twenty seven holes of golf in more than a month, which for regular people that have normal jobs, like a nine to five in the office, you know, that's maybe a little bit standard, even a little bit low. But you know, for me, who does have downtime a lot, you know, throughout the weeks at times, I feel like I've really been slacking on my golf. So I'm gonna

that that's I'm recommitting myself to playing golf. The Charles Schwab event is out at my golf course at Anish Country Club this week, so obviously I can't get out there, but I'm gonna really try over the next few weeks and throughout December in January where things slow down to kind of get back to it. I feel like I've kind of lost the bug a little bit. And and as I mentioned, the infrequency of these podcasts means I've

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guess two plus years on tour. Now, how many iterations of your name on the first t have you got? Do you think I'm off the top of my head? I a bunch, honestly, you know, Ever since I was in elementary school, I feel like I've the last name has been uh pronounced poorly or or not even at all. I've had I've had a few interesting ones, and I've had a couple of people choke up and sort of

stare at me, uh for some help. So people have had fun with it, so at least, Yeah, you know, I always wonder about and this is a p s A for anyone it's ever gonna do something on the first tea of any golf tournament. Just go up to the guys before and ask them. It takes two seconds, say how do you say your last name? You'll say it, Boom, you got it. I always wonder why they're so gunshot to go up and be like Zander, give me the exact pronunciation your last name and then they can nail it.

I did want to ask, Uh. I know you you obviously come off a big win in China. Um. I was listening to an interview you did during the week. I think it was after the first round, and and you mentioned you're gonna take some time off. You said, I'm a golf nerd. It's hard for me to stay away from the game. You told me something before we got going. You've already added an event to the calendar. Man, you can't stay away from it. Yeah, I don't know. I I love San Diego, but I guess sitting around

watching other guys play gets me going here. Uh. I decided yesterday or two nights ago to play the your ending tournament and Dubai for the European Tour. So I'm gonna head out leave here on Saturday to get in on Sunday. Yeah. You there's really I've always said there's two types of prose. There's the guys that, uh that you know, look at it as a job and that's what they do. And then there's the guys that are just massively passionate about golf and they want to be

on the golf course. I'm assuming you're in the second category there on this time off you've had. I mean, have you put the clubs away? Is it hard for you to put the clubs away? It is? You know, I say, I'm somewhere in between. I definitely look at it as a job. You know, I was supposed to

use this um this time here. Uh the next event I had scheduled it was Tigers event and the Bahamas, And you know, I got back and I started working out and sort of doing sort of an off season program with my trainer back home in San Diego, and um, I just I couldn't. I kept getting like notifications and my agent kept talking to me about, you know what my plan is working by because you know, with the win on China, it puts me you know, up nicely

on it counts for both tours. So I was an associate member of the European Tour this year, and I don't know, I just felt some sort of responsibility to to go out there and and sort of give it a go. I guess you know, I've never really been to Dubai, and um, I don't know you know how many opportunities I'm gonna get to go overseas, uh, you know, be going over. I can't win the whole, the whole race of Dubai because Molinari is too far ahead, but I can definitely, you know, play some big golf and

give it a go and see and see how we do. Yeah, I mean, it's God. I've always wondered what it must be like to be a golfer, you know, of your abilities coming off a good week and then you have almost set aside time not to play. I mean I've always felt like, when you're riding that momentous wave, why hang it up? You know what I'm saying? And I mean, do you is that part of it. I mean, if you come off a victory and there's events out there to play, there's there's big events to play with with

big purses and prestige that comes with it. I mean, I'm I'm assuming the itches there even more when you're coming off the way you played in China. Yeah, it's it's tricky, you know, when you win. There's no like the calendar is it's so interesting to look at just because you know, we stop and start right back up. But this is sort of technically our off season. You know, this time of year is is when most guys just had to shut it down leading into January. So, UM,

I think next year will be interesting with the new calendar. UM, new season. I guess of how our schedule looks, but it varies, you know usually you know, like you said, when you win, you want to you know, strike it, strike it while hot, I guess. But I sort of won early in this season, but late in the year, so I am supposed to take some time off, which is what I planned. And I just like you said, I I can't help myself. You've got to get this

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in life? You know, how closely are you paying attention to that? And how were your last two and three weeks on the web knowing that if you jump into that top twenty five, it's really life changing for a young guy. Yeah, it's funny. It's feels like it's been such a long time ago, um since being on the web, but it was I felt I was a crucial but just getting through to score honestly, going before that, you know,

those are some important steps. Uh. The tour is becoming so much harder to play on, and I think, you know, everyone's so aware of it, so there's this added pressure of getting through when you have that opportunity, you know what I mean? And I was I think, yeah, like you said, I missed it a pump Andy Rick by nine and something everyone calculated to be like just one shot anywhere through the whole year. M Yeah, thanks thanks guys,

Thanks you telling me that glad I missed that tapped. UM. So you know, it was it was an important It was good. It was good that I was able to push through that that sort of tricky time. You know, looking at it now, I reflect on it and think of it as a tricky time. But at the moment, you know, I was sort of gunn hole, like my head was down. I was sort of turn meant that I was gonna sort of walk through this um, this

whole situation sort of untouched UM. And so I guess that's part of the reason why we were able to start of clutch up and and and have that life changing moment, to have an opportunity to play on the PGA Tour. Yeah, I mean, and and I've always wondered

about the pressures. I mean, I know, you're twenty five, and you mentioned, you know, it feels like it was just kind of yesterday that that it was there, even though it's been you know, like you said, your your life has really changed in the two years you've had on the PGA Tour. But you know, you've you've been under pressure in PGA Tour events. You know, you just came off a playoff win against one of the best players in the world. But the pressures on the web

have to feel different because you're playing. I mean, you're not just playing for a job. You're not just playing for the next season on the PGA tour. But I mean every dollar is huge for you in those situations. What are the pressures like when you compare them and when you look at the web versus the pressures you feel now with big putts and in big moments. I mean, it has to feel less life changing than it did

and you're going through the web as aear old. Yeah, that's that's that's a good point, I think to compare the two. I don't know, it's an interesting question. You know. On the web, it's it's very what felt like do or die? You know, um, if you're not you know, if you don't have much money, uh, if people are backing you. There's just so many things on the web, dot com, going a PGA that people don't really see, like basically, put all your eggs in this one basket

for this one moment um. It may seem at the time obviously, h if you like for me, it was sort of that situation, you know, it was. It wasn't like the funds verse. You know in the third plus here like I wasn't like I was getting paid a ton, you know, I was barely scraping by. You know, I had my buddy outcatting for me. You're staying you know, this is all part of the process. That's that's part of what we call the grind um. So thinking back

to it, it's just it is. It is crazy because you're you're trying to it's more of an internal battle. I feel like versus a PGA tour. On the PGA Tour, this is sort of where your actual like dreams and goals you've you felt like you've had as a child or a kid, this is where you're trying to accomplish him. So that's the pressure you sort of feel out here, and you know you have more eyes on you, and there's just on the PGA Tour, there's it's more of

a circus. There's so much more going on around you besides golf, you know that you have to be aware of. And on the web dot Com tour, it's sort of just you, your caddy and and just everyone else has got the same goal of just sort of grinding and get through the situation. Because you know, guys are like, I have to quit if I don't get through the situation, you know, this year, Like I'm out of funds, Like this is it for me. I'm done if I don't

clutch up here. So you know, and guys have families, and the caddies out there aren't making any money either, So it's not just you who people are relying on. So I mean, it's the web dot com to it's it's becoming extremely competitive, which just adds that much more pressure to whoever is in that situation. Yeah, I mean, you look get I mean I always say, you know, you mentioned kind of the quote unquote off season. I mean, these are these are chances for young guys to go

out and get victories. And we've already obviously seen it with Cam Champ, but you know, that's what this PGA Tour kind of wrap around season allows is sure, you're gonna get a speed here on a Xander here, and and a and a Kepta here in the field. But for the most part we've seen the last two or three years, this is the chance for those guys to take a leap. And the funny thing is when you

take that first leap on the PHA Tour. I mean, you're talking about wining a million bucks and and as you mentioned, the stress of life in a way goes away, especially when you have two years of comfort. You know, you're a guy that came from San Diego State and uh and I've always said, I mean, you know this isn't a comparison in the sense of games, but you know, you've got a little Zack Johnson and you you know, Zack Johnson went to Drake and he wasn't some talented

amateur coming out. I know you've had some success in college and you won some amateur events. But when you look at the PGA tour, you have guys like Jordan's Speed went to Texas, and you have guys like Justin Thomas who with Obama, who were quote unquote can't miss

guys since they were, you know, nine years old. What do you feel like changes um when you turn professional for a guy like you who didn't go to the biggest school in the world, who has been massively successful already in his career, versus maybe one of those highly touted amateurs that just can't seem to get it going once they turned professional. Because we see those types of players, you know, you know, come through and disappear a lot.

I think the difference would probably be, you know, it takes Zack and I the pressures of making it weren't you know everyone if you go to Zack's hometown or my hometown, you know, everyone believed in us to make it, you know what I mean. It's just not something that was covered or talked about. You know, everyone from my team believes that I could make it. Obviously, there's pros and cons, you know, of being the it guy like

Jordan and Justin. Everyone's telling these guys, you know, you're supposed to make it, You're supposed to be great, You're supposed to do all this. So there is an added pressure. But as along along with the pressure, people have given them confident at a young age to tell them, you know, they were given opportunity through their play. They had opportunity to play on the key. Sure they they were successful.

So like their confidence at sixteen or seventeen was something that I'm barely touching touching upon now, you know what I mean. I didn't have that confidence when I was as young as them, because they were so good so early, and people saw it and talks about it. So there's just buzz around them. Um, and I think they weren't. They weren't scared of it, you know what I mean.

When you look at some amateurs that have that buzz around them and they come out and aren't as aren't are not as a successful maybe the moment kind of got to them too soon. But if you look at j T and Jordan's they embraced that moment and so I just took off with it, you know what I mean. They used it as a as a propeller to win majors and and and just lead our young generation of golfers,

you know, in the right direction. So someone like me, I was sort of in the in the dark, and I didn't really That's that's honestly where I like to live. You know, I don't want anyone to really know who I am. I don't want um, you're not doing a good job. Yeah, you know. Of course, where you play, the more people are gonna talk about you. But you know, I like to keep to myself. I have a really small team here in San Diego, and um, most of the guys too out there, you know, all the tough guys,

they keep to themselves. That's sort of something I've learned. And their teams are pretty tight knit and small as well, just because it's just tricky. You know, everyone wants your time. The better you play, everyone wants to do this and that with you at the better you play. So um, you know, there's still a lot I need to learn moving along here, but it's it's definitely an interesting point

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slash clubhouse to get started and saved ten. Okay, back to Saner. Yeah, is there's somebody that you look at? I know you've mentioned Rory a few times in interviews in such I don't know if his name just pops up because you know him, were because you play with him,

you know, frequently, or whatever. But is there a player over these two years and into kind of your third full season on tour that you look at the way he approaches it, the team he has, the personality has on and off the golf course, and you go, I kind of want to be like him as a professional golfer. Um, that's a good question. I feel like growing up, I've

always looked at a bunch of different characters. Um. It's tricky because once you start playing, I think a part of you know, coming out of college, coming a professional many tours in the web, dot com or McKenzie or whatever, to where everyone's playing that do you sort of have to discover what kind of not even golfer, I guess

what kind of person you are internally. I think all helps pull out, you know, everyone's u personality you know, like you gotta figure out who you are because they're playing golfs in front of people, and you have to feel comfortable in your own skin, and if you're not, you're not going to play your best golf. So I think growing up, I always looked at pretty much everybody. You know, I looked at I looked at guys like Rory.

I looked at guys like Ricky. I looked at guys like Tiger, guys like still Um, just just to see, you know, how they reacted and how the crowd reacted to them, just because I didn't really know, you know, as a young kid, who I was. And so now that I'm out there, I guess I've sort of come

into my own hold. Um, And I don't know where I stand or what I look like out there, but I'm comfortable and you know, how I behave on the course and how I am, And you know, i'd like to think it's it's just sort of like a mix of everyone. You know, I don't get to the quality. That's what you gotta do. I'll take this guy's personality in the interviews. I'll take this guy when he has a great moment. I'll take this guy when he struggles,

you know, I mean for you. I mean, you know you talk about Jordan and Justin and the pressures that come with it, but I mean, you win two times as a rookie, and you win the Tour Championship and uh, you know, your Rookie of the Year and all of these accolades come with it. Did the pressure change from year one of the year two? Knowing that not only are you I mean now you're kind of a guy. I mean, now you're a guy that it has been successful. You're a guy that's one big events, that's clutched up

when he needed to in the biggest stages. You know, did it feel different this past year coming off of all that? For sure? Did? I? I think the biggest pressure was the pressure I put on myself more than anything else. I just I feel like coming out after the rookie year, it's just one year. It was just it was a really good golf. Gight was able to play, and everyone out there is able to play a really

good golf. You know. It's just when we talk about it, it's the win and it's the opportunity, you know, And I had the opportunity and I did it. At the right time, and so boom, here comes to my rookie year and I do these crazy things. But I knew, you know, like this doesn't really prove anything yet, you know.

It was just it was like a short stint of really good golf, and so I put a ton of pressure on myself to win again right away, to sort of put myself in that, you know, in the it factor of golfers, that you can play really good golf year round. Um. And so I think it was a

learning experience. A little bit of that was I wanted or ask too much of myself or expected too much of myself just for being out there for a year, And so I got hit on the head a few times thinking, you know that better than I actually was. And um, I feel like I've just been trying to go with the flow more in the last couple of months and and sort of just learned from mistakes versus expecting to play great golf all the time. Yeah, it

was funny. I was listening to a couple of things you said after the win in China, and you you said you were going through your car before the playoff and you didn't even realize you'd Burdie. The last two holes, you just kind of were in the zone and you were going amongst going kind of through your routine, and you went, oh, that's that's a nice finish, and of course it got you in the playoffs. So yeah, maybe that's maybe just kind of moseying around and enjoyed the moment.

Is is the way to go? I gotta ask you this the put on eighteen at East Lake. I was working PG TWUR live and you know, we're and and this is something broadcast. You know, we broadcast. We kind of gotta you know, we've got to wax poetically about whatever is going on. Right, So if you're gonna win, it's you know, it's a rookie and he's second win, big moment, blah blah blah blah blah. And I'm doing that whole thing. And let me just say it didn't

go dead center. So as the man over the putt as you hit it and everything that happened, you know, the next two seconds, what was going through your mind? I just it was it was the most genuine expression. I just started laughing because that's what I was just,

you know, I just I was embarrassed. I thought I missed the put So when I went in, I just started laughing, like, wow, it through and this moment, you know what I mean, because there's no chance I would have made the next put coming back after I lifted out, you know what I mean, I would have finished like fourth place if I missed that put three from the foot. I mean, it wouldn't be the first one to do it, let me tell you that, correct. And you just don't

want to be in that, you know. I wasn't. I wasn't thinking I was ever going to miss the putt. I just maybe I was going through the process like, oh, it's just not a big deal, kid, It's a two footer. Let's you practice this all the time to win. YadA, YadA, YadA. Never had this moment. But it's not gonna have kids. And I just hit it and I just didn't hit

a good putt. And of course, you know, golf guys were on my side horse shoot in, and so I just started laughing because it was honestly, it was a moment of embarrassment for me because I almost just blew this ridiculously incredible opportunity for myself. I think the good news is the holes around and it did go in and and again it was it was a good thing for you, And I don't want to bring up some negative thing, but it was just it was one of

those moments. Is you know, you were watching and I was like, man, you know, as you said, you're kind of going that that that one snuck in. That'll work. Um, you know you've played, You've played really well in your two US Opens. As a pro, you know, US Opens historically have intimidated young players. I mean, it's not been an event that young players have played well. And you've got two top six is already in the two starts you've had. Why is it that the US Open seems

to fit your game? Why do you feel so comfortable playing, you know, the the ultimate test or the toughest test, or whatever you wanna call it. I feel like I look at the US Opens and maybe when I arrived that run from my team and myself, I tell myself sort of, you know, this is a week of patients like you have to, you know, I just keep reminding

myself that. Also, I feel like veterans and rookies are almost on the same playing field because the US a trick they trick up courses so much that it doesn't matter just played. You know, Tory pines a million times. If the US comes through and and does what they do to golf courses, no one's ever seen the course like that, or if someone has, it's only been once enough. So I feel like everyone's on a level playing field. So you can almost wipe the experience off the charts.

And it's so whoever can sort of prepare the best for the week and being the freshest mental state. Um, and being a younger guy, you know, you are scared at times, but usually you know, being young and being fearless or sort of go hand in hand. So just not being scared at the moment and sort of realizing, you know, this is almost a level playing field, like

this is anyone's weak because this place is ridiculous. Um. I think I have sort of that mindset going into those US opens that sort of panned out for me. I guess it's like a one more break to let you know that hiring is challenging. But there's one place you can go. We're hiring. It's simple, it's fast, and it's smart, a place where growing businesses connect to qualified candidates. That place is ZIP recruiter dot com slash the clubhouse.

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it's it's it's a it's a patient. It's a it's a mental patience, right, I mean, it's just basically, you know, never getting high or low in those in those situation, any any tough of them, for goodness sakes, but you know, when you play a very very difficult golf course, if you're not getting two up and not getting two down, that's gonna that's gonna vote well for you. I mean, Nicholas used to talk about all the guys that are complaining on the range before US Open. He goes, you know,

those guys already lost, they were done. So I mean, I feel like you might have a great demeanor for that kind of major championship and it'll probably work well for you. Here's a question for you, because you are in a very unique situation. You played a full season without Tiger. In a full season with Tiger, compared the two years. Compare the full Tiger in the field play in. You're there, You're you're in the situation. You may you know, maybe you're seeing him on the range versus the year

before when he wasn't around. It's a simple answer. More buzz you know, good or bad that you know that he's played performance. You know coming out he was a little rusty. Um I played toy Pines right when he came out and he was super rusty, like it seemed like he wasn't ready to come back out and he missed the cut. I think he played with with DJ and um Day or it was a it was a big group. Yeah that sounds right, yep. And I gotta.

I got a sponsors exemption, so I was just off to the side, but like, you know, the whole sort of wine together there. And so every once in a while I'd seen this massive crowd, you know, moving across the course. Um, you know, I'm on the other side of the property, was staring across the smokes. This is what it's like, I guess. And he's not even you know, he wasn't even been back for more than a year.

So him coming back and playing well has just been incredible because it's sort of that buzz and the roars and everything I've watched on TV as a kid. Um, I feel like I get a little bit of an experience of what it's like when he's playing well. So it's it's honestly been a treat for me, you know. And also I think the game of golf, watching it to a championship that was just you know, not even

golf moments. It was one of the coolest, coolest sparting moments I've ever witnessed in my life, just him walking through the crowd, being up to you know, in the clubhouse like literally a kid along with thousand other people. You know, we're all just sitting there lifting our chops, just watching him do his thing, you know, even though I played in the tournament against him. So um, I think everyone's really happy to see him playing well, and we're all grateful for him to be back. Yeah, I mean,

the buzz isn't gonna go away for goodness sakes. I mean, the first event he's back at nineteen, it's gonna be crazy, and the master is gonna be crazy. I mean, it's not gonna it's not gonna dissipate. It's it's just only gonna get louder and louder, especially coming off that win. I know you've gotta run. And I do want to ask you a question. Um, I feel like you get the term sneaky long thrown around at you a lot.

When when you hear the words this guy is sneaky long, do you take it as a compment or is it kind of annoying? I think sneaking long is sort of right. Or I like to live, so maybe I don't know. Maybe I don't know. It's perfect. Yeah, I don't really take it. I'm I'm you know, I'm whatever, five tenants, five night and a half without so you know, a hundred seventy pounds. I don't. You don't look at me like, yeah,

this guy should fly three hundred or whatever. So every once in a while when I gets, you know, when I'm swinging a kid, I think I would consider myself sneaky long as well. So I think it's a fitting term.

I was looking at your stats. I was looking at it before, and I mean, you know, you're like top twenty five and distance, and I'm like, you know, I mean I watch you play, you know, when we're doing a PGA to a live event, you know, and we've got you in our group, and you watch it and it's you know, two or three times around, you're like eight passage e T or your tin pass dustin, or you're right there next to him. You're going kind of beats it. You know, people kind of get that he

can kind of beat it. I mean it must be like you said, it's always nice to surprise people, right, I mean, it's always nice if you kind of just kind of sneak up on somebody and they don't realize what's going on. So I liked it. The comp works for you, Sander. I appreciate the time. Man. First of all, good luck in in to buy and second, take some time off. Man, you gotta put the clubs away for like at least a couple of weeks. Are you going

to spend December away from the game. Yes, December, it will be a time that that will be my off season, and then after I'm doing Capello obviously, and I'll have some time off after that leading into the Farmers, so I'll be home for the West Coast. So don't worry,

I'll have my time off when you're in December. Like when you say you take time off, and you talked about this earlier, but I mean, will you not touch a club or is it very hard for you to go three, four or five days without you know, grabbing your bags and going hitting golf balls. Typically it's hard just because if you know, I haven't seen my buddies since I've been gone. So if if if they text me like, hey, let's go place the golf, you know, you know, like I'm like, why why golf? Can we

do something else? But you know, you really like, yeah, it's fine, we can play golf. But this year, I think is the first time I've sort of been relaxed, you know, since I've turned pro. Um just with you know, the state of my game and mentally and just the success we've had. So I feel like, you know, I think I'll probably not touch the club for like two weeks and so see how that goes. It's not something you know, I haven't done that since I was in

college or before that. So looking forward to it. Yeah. When you when you say you're gonna go do something else that's not golf, what do you do? I mean, what are you like your hobbies when you're back in San Diego? I mean, funny enough, I'll probably travel just a little bit. My girlfriend back home, you know, she's she's working, so she doesn't get to come out with me too much. So we'll probably go somewhere nice. Um, that's an easy way to spend a week somewhere Usually

the beach should just hanging out with friends. But it's gonna be cold in December here, so now you better, you better watch it. There are people on the East coast listen to this right now. They're that are just they are They are now making x x Ander signs because she said it's cold in San Diego in the winter, than for I don't want to go on the water. Yeah, you don't want to put your wet suit on. I got you, all right, man. Well, I appreciate the time, dude,

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