Stacey Jackson

This edition is brought to you in association with Distill Union for men's gifts, presents and problem -solving men's accessories. More from them in a bit. Welcome back to the Chatterbox Redux podcast with Sir Nick and today our special guest is international superstar Stacey Jackson This is Nick and Sue with Chatterbox giving you all you need to know about music. Hi, I'm Stacey Jackson and I'm the host of Stacey Jackson in

the 80s. Her approach to life reminds me of one of those motivational books I see sometimes buy in airports. Pop singer Stacey Jackson has rocked the charts in London and now she's ready to take the U .S. by storm. She's collaborated with some of the biggest names in the biz like Snoop Dogg. Stacey, guys, she's a singer -songwriter, we'll hit chat about that. She's an entrepreneur, she's a TV presenter. She's basically a workout expert. Mum of four, yeah, whatever, that's just so easy,

doesn't it? And now a novelist as well. So Stacey, wow, where do we even start? Come on. Look, lockdown was productive for me. You know, I'm not a person that could just sit around. Actually, what I did do is I wrote a book, it's a fictionalized book about a woman who juggles basically being a mom and becoming a pop singer. What I've done and what I've been doing and of course the pinnacle of having worked with Snoop was sort of like, you know, I am happy. I'm doing what I love to

do. I'm living the dream I've always wanted. I feel like I could never be a happy mom or a great wife or great friend if I wasn't happy myself doing what I love to do. That's how he made me a better mom is that because he's made me realize that I can live my dream. Of course the time it took for me to get here has value, has a lot of value. And now in Chatterbox UK, we're just lucky enough to welcome back Stacey Jackson. Stacey, welcome back, how are you? I'm

great. How are you? I'm absolutely I just got back from a lovely week away in the Bahamas. I'd never been there. And so I'm very relaxed. Very, very. I'm super eager to chat to you. And it's really nice to be back on the show. Oh, wonderful. And we went on a cruise some years ago now. But one of the places we stopped at was was the Bahamas with the Royal Caribbean, Caribbean. So, yeah, we We were in good company there. We absolutely enjoyed it. So I know what

you're saying. Well, I have to tell you, like at this time of the year, it's like I crave sun. So it was quite nice to just be, you know, in a bathing suit and, you know, with your feet dangling in the water. I can't complain. It was really nice. The blue sea, the white sand, it's all there. Oh, exactly. And you know what? I just need like a minor little recharge, even if it was just a few days or a week or whatever, like that's it. And then I can come back completely

and fully engaged and focused. It's just it's amazing how a holiday does that to you. Oh, yes. Oh, yes. Okay, right when we spoke last time you were talking about an album on its way And that would be out within the next next year. So we're taking it back. It is within that year and Great title and it's obviously named after one of the songs on the album, which we absolutely love anyway Superwoman that's the name of the album And it's out now So I'm glad that reached

fruition of that. So what I'd like to do, I'm going to take you through the album and you tell us about the tracks on it and how we're going to do it. So we got a song called Both Ways. Tell us about that one. Oh, I worked with an amazing producer on that record, Cy Helbert. He's worked with One Direction and I mean, he's just incredible and so talented. And I wrote

that one with him a while ago, actually. And It was funny because I don't know if you know that I also have a book out called How a Gangster Rapper Made Me a Better Mom. And originally the book is coming out, hopefully I'll be on your show again in a few months, because the audio version of the book is coming out with a full

integrated soundtrack. and originally I wrote this song both ways to be on the soundtrack but I actually I deliberately wrote the song with a bit of an 80s vibe to it and when I put the album Superwoman together the whole album was inspired by sort of the 1980s and I revisited the record I wrote with Psy and I'm like you know what this will fit very well on this album.

And because the theme and a lot of the messages in most of the tracks on the record is about never too late to live your dreams and being able to be, like in my case, a mom and someone with a career. And I felt that the message in this particular record made... more sense to be on the album itself than to just be on the soundtrack. And by the way, I might also end up on the soundtrack anyway. But that was sort

of the sort of story behind the song. And so it was inspired by the 80s, along with other songs on the album. And because the message is so... especially, I guess, empowering to women who a lot of times feel like they have to juggle so many things between being a wife and a mother and somebody who works. And it's just a lot of balls up in the air. So that's really the gist of the record. And it's one of my favorite songs on the album, too. So that's the story. I like

it. OK. Then we've got Closer to My Dreams. Again, another one that's inspired by the 80s. I wrote this. with also an incredible producer called Michael Stockwell. And that was the first time I worked with him. And we came up with this record based on, again, having grown up as a Gen Xer in the 1980s, I was inspired by the sounds of that era. And so the story of this song is basically remembering what it was like. growing up in that time. And then how how we how that journey made

you who you are today. So and I feel that that theme for me is very relevant. I did a show called Stacey Jackson in the 80s. I'm launching a new

podcast called the gen experience. And so I think a lot of things that and you're probably around the same age as me growing up you know back then and then sort of how that journey of being a teenager in the 80s and you know kind of made you who you are or inspired you to make the choices that you made so that you could become you know you now and that's pretty much the gist of that song and um yeah And also, it's slightly different. It's a little slower than the rest of the songs

on the album. But a lot of people feel that that's their favorite song on the record. So I think there's something for everyone. Great, no, I like that. And you mentioned the 80s a few times. And you are quite similar age to you. I catch up with you age -wise on Mondays, my birthday on Mondays. Oh, happy birthday. I'm only a few weeks younger than you, but no, thank you very

much. Thank you. Yes, all good. Yeah. Well, so then you relate to me when I say that, like, you know, the gen experience and, you know, I really feel that, like, the 80s We're just I meant so much to me that particular era. I mean I met my husband in 1989, but like even even so like I just feel that my My teenage years and my biggest growth in trying to figure out who I wanted to become Was probably based on you know, what was going on at the time in the

80s? And I think we are a very special generation. I really do I'm a big fan of the Gen X And when does the podcast actually start? When does it commence? It commences I think in the next couple of weeks. We're going to start popping out teasers. We basically interview a bunch of different, very similar to your show, but we don't just

stick with the music. It's basically people in all... areas of, you know, culture, lifestyle, music, we have actors, producers, politicians, basically all walks of life and people who are successful in their own right, and how they are all, you know, from the 80s or have grown up in the 80s and what's changed. And again, what makes them who they are today or the choices that they made growing up in the 80s to determine

where they would be. And some of them actually had repotted themselves later on in life because they realized that they weren't on the path that they wanted to be on originally. repotted themselves. And I think it's a great story. So yeah, I feel it's lovely to be able to chat to so many different people from different walks of life, not just in the music, and really get to know and get people to understand, you know, how the 80s really influenced so many people of our generation,

I guess. And yeah, it's great. I'm excited. Sure, we're not just music ourselves. However, you do have a totally different twist on what we do because, you know, we will interview somebody that's brought a book out or something. Right,

right. It doesn't just have to be music. when it comes to politics we don't actually uh appreciate you got a different stance on it but uh we would only have a politician on if like for instance we've got a very famous politician from uh now and well it's the opposition party but going back he was really big 20 30 years ago and he's done a lot of steam train programs for the bbc so he will come on and talk about the steam train programs but not the politics but see you've

got a great twist on it so i like i like It is totally, it's almost refreshing. It's like a total new thing. I haven't quite heard that concept. So that thing does sound good, actually. So yeah, I'm excited. Thank you very much. Yeah. I mean, you know, it's quite fun because like the influence of that time was, you know, even like fashion, like just remember about the eighties, like all the chat, the transformations that came out of the 1980s and how music influenced fashion and

how fashion influenced other decisions. And there was a lot of cultural connections back in the 80s that people can go back to and go, wow, think about how inspiring different life. sort of choices were and you know where we were back then and now where we are today. I don't know. I'm really enjoying it now obviously like you talking to different people from different walks of life. I find it very inspiring and you know every day I learn something new and it's great. It's great.

Anyways back to my album. We went off. I was just thinking about the 80s hairstyle and the clothes. That's also amazing, wasn't it? It's just like, great. It was great. Yeah, really

great. And it's so relevant today. I mean, like, there's, I have to say, like, I guess through TikTok and, you know, Instagram, and being able to read Listen and even that our new generations like our children are listening to songs from the 80s now because of digital, you know the did the digital world and everybody being able

to have access to Some music from the 80s. It's really lovely and music it sound tracks on you know movies that have come out and That are based in the 80s and television series like stranger things, you know, I think it's very relevant and I think it's great that my kids get to actually kind of live a little bit of it. Absolutely, absolutely. We're taking a quick break to talk about the things we carry with us every single

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to talk about. Yes, that is a song I co -wrote with Jim Sullivan also very he was in Wild Boys and he's a wonderful producer and I wrote that record just after Covid actually and It I worked with him remotely and it was one of the first times that I was working with the producer not face to face not in the same room and it was quite a challenge because I am such a like in the room where it happens kind of person where like I I love that like, you know stuff like

when you're in a room in a studio and there's something that's I know somebody's banging on the piano or whatever and you're like, oh, hold on a second, keep playing that same thing, keep playing that. And then you're all of a sudden like, okay, I hear a top line melody on that. It's just the team thing that happens while you're in the room and like the juices flowing, you

know, the creative juices flowing. but it was quite interesting to be able to do it remotely and you know zoom isn't great for music like i find like you're not actually hearing it properly and i think ultimately technology will get better and better and you'll be able to you'll be able to work better, you know, on remotely for music.

But I found it a bit of a challenge. So I had an idea for the song, again, a 1980s inspired record, I was like adamant that there was guitar in this song, particularly, because I love the

sort of 80s rock vibe as well. I wanted to have some sort of motivating element to it, like the kind of song that you want to let go for a run to, you know, and some sort of inspiring element to it and also again like how you have a dream and you you know in this case fire in my eyes and you want so badly to achieve that dream and so it we we worked on it and we honed it and we finally got it to a place where I wanted it to be but again I I found it a challenge because

I wasn't in the room and it took it took a while for me to get the right vibe for the song. And I'm glad it finally turned out the way I wanted it to turn out. But it was, yeah, it was one of the, you know, probably my only song. And I think it will probably be the last song that I do remotely. Okay, well, you've got Get Together next. Another song I wrote with a really good friend of mine, a producer, Craig J. He is also a DJ, an extraordinarily talented co -writer.

He used to be the musical director for, what was his name? David Cassidy. You remember David Cassidy from the Partridge family? Yes. Absolutely, yes. Craig is one of us. Again, another Gen X guy. He's been around and he's absolutely super talented. And he's based in Chicago, but we did write the song together. And then also, again, the song is actually about being not together. It's about how, over COVID, everyone was not being able to be in the same place. And everybody

had to be on screen. And so it was about how people were socializing only through a screen basically and and it was about time that we needed to get together like physically get together and so that was how we wrote the song about how sick we were about how sick of it like we were about being like stuck behind a computer and how relieving it was to finally get back together again in the room so yeah that yeah it's funny that you asked me that question right after the

other one but that's that's true that's that's a great story because uh i mean obviously during lockdown uh i mean i don't know how many thousand lockdown songs we got sent yeah totally new twist to a lockdown song is this yeah i love it really well done all that that's amazing just it's really fun because like i really tried so hard to keep the element and the theme of my album very much the same, you know, in terms of the songs having the same or very similar messaging and having

the same vibe and quality that I wanted like to be sort of, you know, inspired by the eighties. And yet I worked with a lot of different co -writers and producers from all around the world on this project. So the fact that all of them actually understood what I wanted to achieve with the record and how they all came together was absolutely really brilliant. And I'm super, super happy that even working with all these people, they all got the message. They all got the memo. Brilliant,

I love it. Now the next one, this is very special. Now 1980s again, it's taken me back to the days of clubbing and things. And I was the club DJ from the late 80s and into the mid 90s. So Mirabal, very special. Tell me all about that. Oh, that one and Superwoman. So two of the songs off of this album I co -wrote with another wonderful woman, actually. And her name is Rachel Walker Mason. She is like a super talented songwriter,

award -winning. She's brilliant. And again, we wanted something that this particular song, we wanted something exactly that something that gave that vibe of you just wanted to get up and dance, you know, the times when you went to the nightclubs, like you said, and just you see someone from across the room and your eyes lock. And

it's like a real old school. And my husband and I back in the 80s, we met in a club like that, you know, and I just, you know, I just was kind of remembering, you know, what it was like back then when I, you know, spent the time dancing,

you know, my brains out. basically on the dance floor it's just um yeah that's where that came from to be honest yeah I love that so much like it obviously it wasn't when you and your husband met but I mean how many hundreds of people or more uh did meet by uh when I was DJing uh from from eyes connecting across the floor as you said when I was DJ the only bit missing from your story is that I wasn't the DJ but we had to meet later in life but obviously that that

plays out to many many other people some of them listening today, and I was the DJ. And it's just so amazing. I love that so much. Really do. Oh, thank you. And of course, Superwoman, the title track of the album as well. Yeah. It's an amazing song that's done very well on hit or miss. And I know we played it on Chatterbox before. And they do love that song. That is really, really

nice song. Oh, thank you. Yeah. Again, I wrote with Rachel, and it was basically about, you know, how you know how how women have come so far uh since the 80s in particular and you know we've always been fighting for our our place in in wherever in the corporate world or in in in the music world or you know just to say we are Just as good if not better than men and we can balance it all and we could juggle it all we can have the babies and yes We could also

work and we could you know, so that was that and so when I made the video of Superwoman I wanted to keep it authentic and I am surrounded by the most wonderful friends and family of very strong and Inspiring women and I just reached out to my friends my family my fans and I said guys I'm going to put together a video of showing what your best you know what like living your best life and what makes you a superwoman what gives you your superpower and they all sent me

clips and they were just so incredible I mean one of my close friends like she's literally barefoot water skiing and then I have another friend that's like doing yoga on the on the sand and then another friend that's like breastfeeding. I mean, I mean, it's just amazing things that women could do. And I just said, that's what my video is going to be. I wanted it to be real. I wanted to be real people, real life and very, you know, people could relate to something very

relevant. Excellent. Yeah. Separate ways. That's the new one to us. So separate ways. Tell us about that one. Well, separate ways is actually a cover. of the actual original song of Separate Ways. And I kind of turned it on its head and made it sound like something that came out of

Camp Stacy Jackson. And it's just a song I grew up with that I really found was powerful and strong about how you could move on from something that you might have thought that was your end -all, be -all of relationships or of anything in that matter, but you can repart yourself, you can leave, you can do something and turn your life around. And I just felt that that message was very sort of poignant and relevant to how I wanted to get the album together and the messages

I wanted for the album to say. That's great, I like that. Now another song that we know well, it's done ever so well by being voted a smash hit on hit or miss and it's definitely been played on Chatterbox before and that is Soldier. Yeah, this is a funny story. Thank you. I love this record. You're not going to believe this, but this song I actually co -wrote back in 1985.

with my band and my original band so I was like 15 16 and I revisited it because I found an old old old jam tape like a demo tape that we were like kids in the basement of one of our houses and the melody was so good And so I rewrote the lyrics for it to be a little bit more relevant. And this particular song is about a friend of mine who, after being married for a long time, was understandably living a double life, realizing that he wasn't who he was, like his authentic

self. uh and he finally uh you know had to come out and um so the true story behind it is about like how you needed to be a soldier and and you know be be courageous and brave and understand that like you have to be true to who you really are and um and yeah so that i rewrote the lyrics uh based on that particular story and and that's that's how that came about but the actual melody was written back in 1985 so it's very special to me and so i co -wrote it with originally my

band from from back then it was crazy and of course 40th anniversary now that's yeah absolutely yeah yeah and next next up is Urgent Yeah, well, that's a cover of a song by Foreigner, right? Mm -hmm. Yeah, okay. I just wanted to make sure I got that right. And it was just a song. I remember, I think it came out when I was 12 or 13. Um, and I just liked it. I just always liked that song and I had heard it on, uh, being played on the radio just a few years ago. And I remember

just singing every single word to the song. And like, I don't, I just turned to my, whoever was in the car with me at the time, I think it was my kid and I was like, how is it that I remember every single lyric to this song from when I was 12? I don't understand. And then, um, that, and yeah, I think it was my son because he said, you know, maybe you should do a cover of it.

and that was how that one ended up on the on the record I'm like you know what it's a good song I'm gonna put my stamp on it and I just remembered loving it growing up in the 80s and going you know what this this song just holds a special place in my heart for I don't know various reasons probably my first boyfriend or something I don't know but it was just a memory that just I decided it needed to be on the record Nick and Sue We're taking a quick break to talk

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discounts specifically for you, 20%. Head over to distillunion .com or simply scroll down to the link below in the show notes and just add CB UK RDUX. Shatterbox, Shatterbox, Shatterbox, Shatterbox, Shatterbox, Shatterbox. And if you're ever stuck, well, not saying you're stuck, it's very well, a very great name for a flipside song. Let's call it Flipside, why not? That's you and Ramsey Sliman? Yeah, Ramsey. And now he's my, like... primary producer, I write with him a

lot. In fact, he produced the soundtrack for the for the book, how gangster rapper made me a better mom. And he's super talented. And we wrote this song as the theme song for Stacey Jackson in the 80s. So which ran, I did 54 episodes, those three seasons of the television show that ran on sky. And Ramsey and I wrote the theme song for it. And it was so funny because We didn't

even release it. It was just on TV. And then a few months after the show premiered, I'm like, oh my god, we didn't even release it as a single. People were calling it to the station going, what song is this? Is it an 80s song? Who wrote the song? And so I was like, oh my god, you're right. We have to release it. And so we released it as a single. And then, of course, it belonged

on this album. I also did an acoustic version of this song and again the message of it being you know how you could basically be a lot of things to a lot of people and still do everything great. And it's that kind of vibe about being able to live your dream, live your best life and still balance it all and juggle all the balls up in the air. And that's pretty much what that song is about. And it's actually probably one

of my favorite songs on the record too. It is a great song and it's one that the Hit or Miss audience and also Chad's book audiences are familiar with as well. So yeah, that's all good. So we have 10 tracks on the album. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 10 tracks. And Flipside also went to number one on the global radio charts, which was very exciting. So yeah, you know what, it's funny because I'm

really proud of this work. Like I feel like as an artist, you know, you look back at the stuff that you put out and the things that you've created. And I'm really like, if I, I don't want to say this, but I mean, like, God forbid, but if I was to like go tomorrow, I feel like I've left a really great message and a bit of a legacy, you know, of who I am and sort of what I was trying to say. in my life and I'm very, you know, very proud of this work, so yeah. I hope I don't

go tomorrow though. I hope I'm around for at least another, I don't know, 50 years. Absolutely, absolutely. This donation, there's no reason why we wouldn't, so. I know. What were we talking about before we move on? Of course, we must say, not to do with the Superwoman album, but of course, you've been on a release with Snoop Dogg, of course. Yeah, I know. Again, it was called Live It Up, and again, that whole album was also called Live It Up. That's probably my claim to fame.

I guess it's almost 15 years ago that I worked with him. And yeah, I think it's God, it was such a life changing experience, you know, again, bringing it to being in the room where it happens. I don't think I would have been just as happy, you know, sending him the parts and telling him to rap on it, you know, like it didn't work out that way. I was very adamant my that I was working in the room with him. I didn't I wanted to. I wanted to experience the experience of writing

the song together. And that's exactly what we did. And I, you know, I absolutely I loved what he wrote. He understood me. He understood where I was coming from when he wrote his rap part. And we bonded over, you know, we couldn't be more chalk and cheese that come from two different worlds. But we did bond over our common things, which were our children, which we both have the similar age kids. He's married to his high school sweetheart. They've been together forever, and

that's like me. I mean I met my husband while I was in college but still a lot of years and you know it's uh yeah I I'm very fortunate that I got to spend the time with them because it wasn't just about the song it was about the whole experience you know and uh I'm still very friendly with like some of the posse Which is nice. And yeah, and I go and I visit them when I'm out in LA and it's just, it was, it was important to me to really understand who I was working

with. It wasn't just like here, take the song and write a rap. Um, I feel like that's, you know, cause now you can do that. Right. But I really needed to be in the room where it was happening. Yeah. I'm old school that way. That's

good, that's good. By the way, it's great to be able to talk to you like this and record an interview because at the end of the day, who would have thought this when we were starting, like in the 80s and who would have thought we'd be able to do this, you know, without one of us having to fly across the pond to do the interview. It's amazing how things have happened. I like it for that reason. A hundred percent. The same

with the podcast I'm doing. It's like, you know, if you're not, I, I film in Liverpool and you know, obviously if you're not within, you know, an hour just drive, we'd have to do everything remotely. And, but it also opens the doors. Like you said, like I can, we've been interviewing people from Hollywood and you know, it's a little, we have to shoot a little later in the day here,

of course, but still like it just makes. you know, it just opens up the world to be able to have this, you know, the ability to interview, like you said, just on a Zoom call. It's great. Yeah. And you mentioned, let's get this right again, Gangster Rapper made me a better mom. The book is out. But when we got the audio thing to talk about later this year, a couple of months time or whatever. Yeah. Looking forward to that. Do make sure when it's out, we know about it.

We'll have a little update then. Absolutely. You've done loads of television. Is there any more television in the pipeline for 2025 that you know of at the moment? Oh, gosh, I don't know. I've done a few auditions in the last few months, and we'll see what happens with any of those things. I'll keep you in the loop. But I have to focus now on, I guess, promoting and releasing the soundtrack and the audiobook, which is a very big deal for me because it's been optioned

to become a TV show. So if that happens, and of course I'm sort of peddling under the water to try to make it happen. then I have to really focus on that because if that actually becomes a thing, then it's not just one soundtrack. I have to put a team together to continue to write for more episodes of the show. So that will keep me busy for a while. But that is obviously also in the TV space, which I love. And yeah, hopefully

it comes. Hopefully it comes to fruition. I'm working on it and you never know, cross fingers and toes. Absolutely. And of course, the Keep Fit stuff, that's still around, it's still available. Yeah, we sold out mostly. I still have some left and so we're selling them on Amazon. But it's the kind of thing that I think for me, I've got a lot of... pots sort of on the simmer, you know, and I focus on the one that's actually starting to boil, you know, and that's how I, you know,

roll, I guess. And so right now my focus is on the album and on the audio book and then. I might revisit the fitness line again, especially if it actually happens. Also, I'm in the throes of writing the second book, the sequel to How a Gangster Rapper Made Me a Better Mom. So who knows? Maybe the fitness clothes we'll take will

come back again. Yeah, that's brilliant. I mean, you're the type of star that we love having on Chatterbox because there's always something for you to back and talk about last time it was the album which we're doing now you got the audio book we're now talking about a follow -up to the to the to the book anyway so it's great so when we talked about the audio book then we might be talking about the sequel maybe another album coming out I mean I know I keep busy I feel your

energy but that's what I say you're the type of style we do like because there's always there's always a to be continued and that's brilliant yeah Oh, I hope so. Like I said, I hope I'm to be around for at least another 50 years. You never know, I'd still might be like rocking around in my hot pants and heels performing somewhere near you. Brilliant. If I let you go, Stacey, of course, you have the most amazing websites and quite simply StaceyJackson .com. Yep, that's

me staceyjaxson .com and I'm also on social media of course, as you know, Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, blah blah blah. Nice and easy, people go to staceyjaxson .com homepage and all the links to Instagram, Facebook and Twitter, that's all there. Spotify, YouTube, Amazon, everything, Apple Music, it's all there. Stacey, it's been amazing to have a catch -up. Thank you for sparing us some time for our listeners. Oh, it's my pleasure. Looking

forward to the next time already. We know there's going to be a next time, so yeah, make it as we get into during spring. We'll have a chat about the audiobook then. That'd be great. Oh, wonderful. Thank you so much. It's great to be on the show again. And thank you, Stacey. Take care now. Bye -bye. You too. Bye. Bye -bye. Bye. You have been listening to the Chatterbox Redux podcast with Sue and Nick and today our special guest was international superstar Stacey Jackson.

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