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Sonia Beldom of The Mumbelievable Podcast.

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Sonia Beldom is the creator and host of MUMBELIEVABLE is todays guest. This is a podcast exploring the complex, challenging, funny and deeply human relationships between mothers and their children. The show is fast becoming known for its disarming honesty and its ability to move seamlessly from laughter to revelation. Her broadcasting credentials are formidable. Sonia began her career at the BBC, rising from trainee to producer on flagship light entertainment programmes including The Huddlines and The News Quiz. She later became a senior music producer at BBC Radio 2, collaborating with high-profile talent and winning the prestigious Prix de Monte Carlo Award for “Give a Little Whistle” and a silver Sony Award for “Smokey Robinson and Friends”. In television, Sonia has worked alongside some of the UK’s most recognised entertainers, including Victoria Wood, Ricky Gervais, Karl Pilkington, Robson Green, Gloria Hunniford and Dame Joan Collins. She is also an experienced media trainer, trusted by professionals who want to communicate with clarity and confidence on air and on camera. What sets Sonia apart, however, is not just her career — it is her story.

Raised by a mother whose unpredictable mental health created both chaos and fierce love, Sonia understands firsthand the complicated inheritance many families carry. When her mother was sectioned at 80, Sonia immersed herself in understanding mental health, undertook therapy, and ultimately had a transformative conversation with her mother that reframed their entire relationship. That lived experience now fuels the empathy and insight she brings to every conversation.

Trained in neuro-linguistic programming, cognitive behavioural therapy and hypnotherapy, Sonia speaks powerfully about trauma, resilience, communication patterns and healing. In 2023, she faced her own life-altering diagnosis: an aggressive form of leukaemia. Now in recovery, Sonia speaks candidly about survival, perspective and living with urgency and gratitude. Her story is not one of tragedy, but of courage, humour and hard-won clarity. MUMBELIEVABLE the podcast emerged a few years later after Jeremy Vine invited Sonia on to his Radio 2 show for an alternative Mother’s Day item. What started as a 6-minute piece ended up lasting over half an hour with Sonia taking calls from listeners who recognised a similar story with the troubled and complicated relationships with their own mothers and the feedback was how she coped so well with a difficult childhood. Her blog site crashed with hundreds of thousands of people logging in.

Recorded March 2026

Transcript

And now here they are, Nick and Sue on Chatterbox. When the stars talk, they talk to Nick and Sue. Welcome back to the Chatterbox Redux Podcast with me, Nick. I'm your host today and my special guest is Sonja Beldum of The Unbelieveable Podcast. This is Nick and Sue with Chatterbox giving you all you need to know about musical entertainment Chatterbox the best interviews with Nick and Sue the best news And now on Chatterbox UK, we're just lucky enough to welcome Sonia Beldham. Sonia,

welcome to Chatterbox. How are you? I'm really well, thank you, Nick. Yeah, great. Looking forward to Mother's Day. Sure you are. Absolutely. It's going to be a busy day for you. All right. I have been listening to the podcast since I found out about you. And in fact, I was listening to it not long ago. the latest edition as well. Now, quite a career. Let's not just start with a podcast. Let's start with your career in BBC

Light Entertainment. You started off as a junior producer, I think, on the news headlines and shows like that, and becoming a fully fledged producer on light programming. Tell us about some of the programmes and maybe your experiences and some of the people you work with. Let's talk about that for a... Well, it was great, because I always wanted to go and work at the BBC. In

fact, when I was 18, I was at school. I marched up to Broadcasting House and went up to reception and said, hello, I'd like to work for the BBC. And this woman said, do you have an appointment with anybody? I went, no, no. I just thought, oh my god. So I was very cheeky. I'd always wanted to work for the BBC. And then when I finally got a training producership in live entertainment, there was a wonderful photograph in the Sunday Times of the BBC live entertainment department.

And it was all men. And so I thought, oh, this is interesting. So one of the questions they said, well, what do you think you'd bring to this that we don't have already? I said, well, I'm female for a start. And there's a lot of, you know, anyway, and it was great fun. But I thought Radio Light Entertainment would be like living in the Goon show. I thought it would be hilarious jokes. 24 -7. No, it was very serious,

but it was great. I worked on the headlines with wonderful Roy Hud and he was fabulous, of course, and I met a wonderful writer there called Tony Hare and I worked a lot with him and so the headlines were great. I did a show called beat the record with Keith Fordyce, which was instrumental versions of classic, you know, hits and everyone had to phone in or whatever, so that was great fun. Yeah, so I did lots of work on Life's Entertainment and it was basically coming up with silly ideas

for programmes. I did a big show with Barry Crier called Funny That Way, which was an interesting one because that was all archive interviews from famous comedians of them talking about their own life cut together with sketches so that was like a big edit program that was great fun and then i went to radio 2 which was pretty much my heartland really because coming from a musical background and all the wonderful music we played at radio 2 so i worked with all the greats there

i was very lucky to work with people like terry wogan gloria hunniford john dunn in the early days brian matthew who did around midnight and i loved it Chaz and Dave, I did a big music live music series with Chaz and Dave and I ended up doing lots of work on Radio 2 as a sort of events and live music producer so I worked with some fabulous musicians I just loved it and was always bossing other people around what to do whenever and whenever I could I'd get on the microphone

and do my own introductions you know studio shows and all that so I suppose I've always wanted to be on the other side of the mic as well. And then when this opportunity came up to do Unbelieveable on the podcast, I thought, aha, I can spread my presenter wings like you, Nick, and actually get on the other side of the mic, which was brilliant.

So that's kind of how it came about. And the podcast itself came about because I started a blog called Sonia's Mum, which I started putting funny stories out when my real mum, bless her heart, she was 80. when she was diagnosed with different mental health conditions. And she was very funny. She was inappropriate, embarrassing and difficult, but she was very funny. And so I started blogging about her. And then that got me onto Jeremy Vine, who was on Radio 2, as you

know. And he said, come on and do a quick Mother's Day. special six minutes or so i was on for 45 minutes and um and they had people opening in and it was amazing and uh so a lot of i just thought to be honest it's a blog site i'm doing it for my own sort of, you know, catharsis, I suppose, describing about my mom. I thought no one's going to listen. Who am I, you know? But

then people did. And people started contacting me saying that they thought maybe their mothers had had problems and they weren't discussed properly, mental health being a big thing within families. And so and then the podcast came out of that, which was which has been great. And it's been going for a couple of years now. We started on

Mother's Day. two years ago yeah and and it's just attracting some really great names great stories you know it's it's fun it's deep it's it's difficult some of the conversations but on the whole it's shining a spotlight on who mums are and what they've given us you have you have had some great guests on the uh yeah really great guests i just think you're going about radio too the comedy and that that podcast for a sec brought back some great memories because

I became quite a fan of radio 2 I bought a radio a battery radio transistor type thing for my 10th birthday now that was in the 70s but of course back in the 70s the radio 2 had some really great comedy on Most kids have been listening to Radio Luxembourg late at night. I was listening to the Peter Goodwright show at 10pm and things like that. And they were very good shows. Roy Castle did a great show. There was some amazing

comedy on there. It was. It was. It's a different radio station to what it is now, although Jeremy Vine's OK and I like Sarah Cox. There's still some good ones on there, you know, but at times

change. the age of the listeners change because when I was there they um I mean I left there late 90s so it's a good while ago now um and they were very much looking for the audience 35 to 55 that's a young adult into early early age you know pensioner age um but now they realize that so many people listen to wonderful podcasts like ours and uh and make their own selections that they're trying to sort of hoover up the

younger people who've come off Radio 1. So Radio 2 very much is the sort of catch the Radio 1 lot before they go off and start podcasting. So it's a much younger audience. And I think with that comes a slightly different, you know, you don't really hear the things that I used to play like Doris Day and Frank Sinatra and Mantovani. You don't hear that anymore on Radio 2. But then, you know, I still play it. I played

on my live shows. In fact, I'm a big fan. In fact, Sue, my partner, only played, was it tonight she's playing? Doris Day. Anyway, Doris Day was last Thursday, so yeah, absolutely, but real easy listening, yeah. But as you say about the podcast thing, because we started the Chats bar, I mean, I've been started in radio, local radio

back in the 80s in Brighton. But radio was the... medium as such and right up until the lockdown I say which is when we gave birth to Chatterbox it started during the lockdown because there was so much talent out there all types not just musicians but people like yourself and actors and all sorts of people that were available all of a sudden there was a lot of talent there and Sue and I just said to each other this is our Sunday afternoon show on Radio North Sea International

said we've got something here so Chatterbox was born started with 12 radio stations and we did up where it is now but in recent times I've found myself listening to podcasts now I am in that age group of late 50s and I'm listening to podcasts I'm not watching documentaries on YouTube anymore I'll have the radio on in the car, but not any other time. And so I'm there podcasting it. I can cook and podcast. And I just thought, well, this is why the Chatterbox Redux podcast got

born as well. Well, let's put it another way. It got monetized in 40 hours of launch. So it was a good start. That obviously is a way forward, this podcast. rather than you trying to find 200 radio stations and keep keep mailing radio station after the podcast there isn't it it's got it is the future definitely It feels like it and I suppose everyone's got a story and it's

a crowded old market out there as you know. You know there are lots of people doing the podcast now but then it's a lovely intimate way of doing it and I think also because there are no holds barred I mean you can say things on the podcast that you probably would hesitate to say on the national radio station but you can be more intimate on the podcast and I find that's where the Unbelieveable guests are so good because they talk about things that are really quite deep and personal and these

are things they probably wouldn't normally talk about on national platforms in a way but they can on a podcast because it feels very intimate so I've been very lucky getting some really great people on sure and some of the guests that we've shared I see that you've had Suzy Quattro on Oh, yes. And she's fantastic. We only interviewed her last a couple of weeks or so back. And she's amazing. She's so witty. She's so funny. And I hope she came on and mentioned her graveyard

book, because that was brilliant. Oh, she did. She did. It's just brilliant, isn't it? So funny. And just what do you want written on it? I'm not sure what you'd want written on your grave, though, but I'm going to have written on mine. Didn't anybody tell you? Because that's always

been. that's been a mantra all throughout life i've got my job at radio too i was on holiday i came back from holiday i was freelancing right i came back i thought oh i've got a week's worth of freelance you know and then nothing and uh and they kept saying oh what you're doing you know in two weeks time i was like oh i don't know and really what do you mean you don't know i said well you know what it's like in freelance and then there's something somebody said didn't

anybody tell you i went no oh you've got a job here you're permanent now oh Oh brilliant! Well that was the best interview I ever did. I like it. I have got mine worked out. I have got mine worked out actually and Susie does know it. And it's quite simply, it's what you would have wanted. Oh yes. At every funeral everybody says it's what they would have wanted. Of course it's not what they bloody wanted. They didn't know the

people. How do they know? So it's what you would have wanted is what's going on the gravestone. Oh there you go, well I'll come and visit you then. Well I'll be up against the wall at the back of Hastings Cemetery, right up against the wall there. I lived there for a while with my mum, my lovely, unbelievable mum. I lived in St Leonard's, so not far from you. I went to a school there run by nuns and I didn't like it. They were all a bit too Too strict for me.

And they found my mum very, very confusing. It was good fun. Lovely part of the world. I do miss being by the sea, I have to say. Being in London is great for some things, you know, but lovely every morning walking by the sea. You know, very lucky. And Tutu present a radio show So here's Nick and Sue Your musical duo This is Nick and Sue with Chatterbox Giving you all you need to know about musical entertainment Chatterbox Chatterbox Chatterbox Shatterbox!

Shatterbox! Shatterbox! Have you had, it is basically, I could turn this from Suzy Quattro back to you actually, because Suzy said that when she did the graveyard book actually, she had some surprises. There's people that she's had dinner with that have been really really funny, but they suddenly became serious when it came to the graveyard book. Now, have you had any surprises with guests? You don't have to name them, of course. I'd like you to, but you don't have to. I would be doing

my job if I didn't ask. But have you had any real surprises where people haven't been, as you would expect, if they'd been the opposite? Absolutely. And people getting very emotional. I mean, I worked... So one in particular was... There's a gardener called Danny Clark, and he does a lot of stuff with Alan Titus on ITV. He's brilliant. Very cool black guy. Dreadlocks. Super cool. And very, very laid back and funny. And

when he came on, he was very nervous. And I was like, well, I'm surprised that you're so naturally funny on air, you know. I didn't say this to him, obviously. This is quite hard work. And it turned out that he had really struggled with the idea of coming on because he was going to reveal for the very first time that his mother had been a very violent mother. And he'd got to school with bruises and cuts on his face and

all that. But he'd managed. He said that he had a conversation with her in the last years, last hours of her life. And we were talking about how important it is to have those conversations with people. quite an interesting one. David Bredeal was hilarious because it turned out that we, our mothers were obviously twins and separated at birth because they were so similar and I never thought I'd be able to make David Bredeal laugh

but I did so that was good. Another one again, again a sort of poignant one really was lovely Ainsley Harriot because he talks about his mum, Pepe, coming over from the Caribbean, bringing all the influences with her, having a problem, obviously struggling to fit in when she came over, being a sort of, you know, from a different

culture. But then we got round that, and then when I talked about him and fame and what his mum must have felt like, he got very emotional because his mum had never seen him on telly, so didn't know famous Ainsley. And that was interesting. And going back to Susie, the interesting thing I found about Susie was that she was so, you know what she's like, she's so strident and opinionated and wonderful and loud and colourful. When she spoke about her mother, she became really quite

very gentle and very very considered. And she said, my mother, she said, I said, how was your mum unbelievable? She said, Mickey Most's Mickey Mouse's wife was sitting next to me once, and she was telling me how wonderful my mother was. And she said, no, exactly why was she so wonderful? And Mickey Mouse's wife said, well, she was the most decent woman I've ever met. And Susie Quattro got... And again, quite emotional. She said, I'd never really thought of my mum as decent.

I'd thought of my mum as loud and bossy and different. So it's those moments when people unleash themselves really. And they become, I think, when people talk about their mothers, they become very honest and very authentic. I found that lovely. And people that are always up, up, up all the time, like Supala, for example, she's hilarious all the time. She spoke about how mom and she became

very emotional and loved the process of it. But it's like there's a connection that people almost go back to being childlike again when they talk about their moms, because obviously there's that early connection in life. So yes, to answer your question, quite a few interesting reactions. Okay so Mumbelievable is I guess you're on all

platforms? Absolutely I mean you can get anywhere so it's all over the place and you can you can get it on on Spotify iTunes anywhere like that literally just put Mumbelievable my name's Sonia Beldham it's also You can go through my blog site, which was the original site where I blogged all about my mum called Sonia's Mum. And then the website has a link to the podcast on there. So that's quite interesting. People like that because it gives the context of how it all came

about. And they are funny, the stories, even though I say so myself. My mum was the comedian. I'm just the teller of stories. But yes, absolutely. And I just love it. And I love the fact that so many nice people are coming on. Is that Sue? Yeah, we haven't worked on it yet. I thought Sue couldn't make it today. She's been letting people in and out. Hiya! Hopefully we can do it again sometime and have Sue in on it as well. That'd be nice, yeah. There's no reason why we

can't do it again. No reason at all. Now, out of interest, Odia, are all of your guests sort

of more of Westwinkle as well? When it comes to your guests, are they all famous people or are they people from the literary world or the world of entertainment or do you have people that maybe more normal people perhaps more community people that might have got an OBE in their community for being a lollipop person or something so do you get so so do you get more sort of like normal people it's a terrible way of wording it normal people but average average people whatever the

wording is do you have people all walks of life, yes, and it's expanding more at the moment, Nick, because it started off by being superstars, you know, Sue Pollard, Bobby Crush, all people I'd sort of worked with. And then it became more, I was working with, say, a professor of neuroscience that I'd... I do another podcast with called Mempathy and I was working with her and we were talking about memory loss and how to deal with memory loss within families and stuff like that.

So she came on and she was fantastic because it gave a completely different take on a mother relationship because her mum has got advanced

dementia. So we started going along that line and in the new series, I mean we've just completed two years, I've got guests coming up who are absolutely pillars of society who are the unsung heroes who have got amazing stories, stories of immigration, stories of having had alcoholic mothers, stories of people who've transformed their own relationships with their mums, stories of people who can't stand their mums and haven't spoken to them for years. I've got one coming

up, it's not for a little while now. where this this woman she's she's local where we are here she's one of the local sort of superstars she that she raises money for charity and works for the local hospice and all that um and she said i haven't spoken to my mom and i can't stand her you know it's all very well you're doing what you're doing but i've got nothing to say to my mother um i said where is she she said well you know i don't know i said have you got

her phone number she said yeah i said should we ring her now she went oh don't be stupid i said why not And we rang her. Her mother, of course, was in floods of tears, hadn't heard from her daughter for about 20 years. They had a really lovely conversation. Yeah. I sort of was there to sort of help orchestrate it because it was getting a little bit tricky. They were both starting to have a go at each other. And I became a mediator. And I felt, do you know

what? A little part of me is feeling really proud of that because I've actually brought people together that might not have actually ever spoken again. A mum was really old and she might have died and a daughter would never have resolved that issue. So things like that are really important. So yes, again, a very long way of saying yes, everyone from A -listers to local heroes to a neighbour who's got an interesting story. So you can come on. Why don't you come on Nick?

I can always email you. I do have an interesting story actually, not just this. Yes, and I have an interesting life with my mother. We went five years without talking, so there you go, we've had to fall out and again, she's not with us now anymore, but we had the, yeah, so there's a story as to how we got back together and a very difficult relationship. But there was that

point where I... Hates a strong word. I immensely disliked the woman, but there was still that thing where she was my mother So that's the start explaining as to how that's plausible, but that might help other people Where I think I can understand your lady, but 20 years is incredible not to talk to your mother five years a long time but but then again the thing of how I broke it down and differentiated that put she became two people my mother and that woman and that helped It's

important. You know, you've hit on something really really important there because in my in my day job to earn money I'm a hypnotherapist I work with people, I'm a counsellor and therapist. And it's all about communication and getting your thinking right, you know, always been obsessed with difficult women. So people with issues with

their parents, it's fascinating to me. But I say to people sometimes if they have a really difficult relationship with their mum, and people write to me all the time, well, you know, I can't get through to her. I say, do you know something, a really simple trick is to like, imagine in your mind a picture of your mother at her best, in her best dress, in the most beautiful surroundings. smiling, lovely, gorgeous, gorgeous, gorgeous,

gorgeous. Now think of like a bubble, and in that bubble you can put the behaviour, the memories, the bad stuff, you know, put it all somewhere else. Separate them. Because if you think of them together, then you have a problem person. You can separate them. So you love the woman, and you can legitimateate the behaviour. That's

fine. Some things are not forgivable. absolutely yeah but they don't have to cloud it you know yeah you can move forward not move on move forward together because that was absolutely yeah there was she's just screaming her teeth but there was also a good side to her um didn't go without I didn't starve I didn't wouldn't turn to go out in the streets dirty and stuff like that but yeah there's a whole big story so yeah I could email you we could talk yeah but the story

but I mean that's how it was dealt with and when she did did die we were talking it was yeah and I would have hated it had she passed and we weren't talking that's what people got to think about because you're never going to get another chance Never have that moment again. And I'll ask you the question now, Nick. Why was your mum unbelievable? Why was she mum -believable? Yeah. It's a difficult one, isn't it? Because that's what everybody would say. Why was she mum -believable? How do

I look at my mother as well? It's always a mixed bag with her. There will always be the mixed feelings of how she cheated on my father, who was a dear sweet man, and then how she ran off with this guy who was supposed to have this really big place in Tunbridge Wells. And it's unbelievable that she believed things. Because then it turned out that this guy in Tunbridge Wells lived in this council block of flats, which is basically a squat, and he didn't have this money, he didn't

do this. So she left my father for nothing, really. That's unbelievable. And she ended up in the squat herself. Payback time. So she... Intelligent lady until she wasn't. Intelligent lady with lack of common sense. So she's unbelievable because she'd be taken in by other people. There you go, that's just as valid. On a kind side, she was very proud of what I'd done. I owned my own cinema in Bexhill at the age of 22. It shut down and I just ended up renting it. Proud of things

like that. She came and did the tickets for nothing and things like that. So she was also a big part of my life in another way. So she absolutely

loved me. you know you were loved yeah oh yes definitely so unbelievable because of things that she believed um and then i could show you the sport the other way there's lots of bad things lots of bad things there's a lot of people but there you go but the important thing is i can i can split them up the middle to two people and i'd like people with mother stay approaching if they're in that situation try and do the same try and pick up the phone like you did with your

lady after 20 years because you will regret it they may not be here the next week of the week after or something like that This is Nick and Sue with Chatterbox, giving you all you need to know about musical entertainment. Chatterbox! Chatterbox! Chatterbox! Chatterbox! Chatterbox! Chatterbox! You know, the other day my sister, who I loved, she was 10 years younger than me, and I thought it was funny, she was going to phone me at four o 'clock, she phoned me at ten

past four. I said, what happened? She said, oh, I was driving along the A1 in London to a tree. collapsed and crushed the car in front of me on the A1. But she said, yeah, it missed me by about two feet and one second. I thought, do you know what? I could have lost my sister like

that. you just think do you know what that's it life's too short people often say to me when i say look get in touch with your mum or make peace even if she's left this world you can still sort of write a letter or have a thought in your head or something like that and they go oh you know it's not that easy i said it is it's really that easy it's easy to pick up a phone and dial

a number It really is that easy. You could just launch in, and the chances are you'll end the conversation going, why on earth has it taken us this long? Because the intention is to make something nice come out of it. You're not going to phone her up and have a go at her, are you? You're going to phone her up and say, what happened, or explain this to me, or whatever. So I think Mother's Day is always sugary cloud, trying to buy a card for my mum when I was in a real problem

with her. And I thought, I don't want a card that's got a rose. on in gold letters and sweetness and everything. I want a card that's funny, but says I love you mum, but isn't all sugary and spice and bouquets of flowers. I think Mother's Day is important to think about in different ways. Who was she? How does she make you who you are? Do I look like her? Do I act like her? Are there things that I do that are probably things that she influenced me about? Just think

about your mum in a different way. with the podcast out of interest now is it lovely obviously you've told us all about your mum is the idea of the podcast really get guests on and get them to come out and open up or is it uh to help people reunite with their mothers or is it a mixture or is it just all the thing about uniting people their mothers has that transpired since you started the podcast maybe It's both Nick, actually it's

both Nick. It started out by me unashamedly telling funny stories about my hilarious mother because she was hysterically funny. Some of the things I got involved with because of her were hilarious. So it was about me sharing all of those but then it was also about looking at how neurodiversity within families is often unspoken about and how it should maybe, open up a conversation. And I think if people find things to laugh at, they can find difficult subjects easier to tackle.

So it was a bit about that. And also, obviously, it's wonderful to get a superstar to come on and tell a different side of their life that you haven't heard before. Yes. Because then you think, oh, that's unbelievable, did that. And they talked about that. And it unlocked a different story. So it works on three levels. It's celebratory. looking at how the sort of science of a mother and a motherhood affects us as humans. And then it's also a bit of a laugh. That's brilliant.

And before we let you go, we do social media last of all. But, yes, tell us a bit about your radio show and the wonderful station you're on. Tell us a bit about that. Oh, Serenade Radio. Yes, Serenade Radio. Oh, it's wonderful. So it's the easy listening station. They say it's the best easy listening station in Britain. Well, it's brilliant. It's like old radio too, from the old days. And I present a show on there every day at 10, 10 till 12. And it's wonderful, nostalgic

music. We play Leo. Sayer maybe, Judy Zook, we do Neil Diamond, we do a few more modern type people, but it's not sort of a hits radio station. And it's a chance for me just to, I share stories on there about my Marmo funny thing, anecdotes about music and talk about working in broadcasting and name drop a little bit. I'm an unashamed

names dropper. And seven day radio is great fun because that keeps me again broadcasting and I love it because it's it's communicating with people and I think it's that communication I love because radio is such an intimate forum as you know and you can really speak to people and people get a lot of support from it. So I love that, I love Serenade Radio and the other

podcast I do called Mempathy. If you've got anyone in your family suffering from dementia, listen to that one as it's really interesting and it's hosted by a proper professor of neuroscience who what Catherine Loveday doesn't know about memory ain't worth knowing. She's fabulous. So yeah, so there's two or three ways if you want to listen to various things. Now, how are you going to spend Mother's Day? I've got to ask you, how are you going to spend it? Oh, interestingly.

Well, interestingly, with my step -mum, because my real mum passed away in 2018. My dad remarried, and so I was growing up a lot with my step -mum in my later childhood years. So I'm going to spend it with her. She's got quite advanced dementia herself, so she won't remember what we're going to do. So we might go on a Thames Clipper boat up and down the river with a picnic, just looking at London's landmarks from the water. And then maybe, maybe go to a pub and have lunch, but

we'll see. But yeah, so with my stepmum, so it's stepmum day. Okay. That's nice, that's nice. I will go up to the grave, put my mother's ashes up there at the bottom. My mum and dad did stay friends. There's a dog up there as well. So I will go and take that and just do some weeds and bits and pieces. I'll go and speak to them. My dad was the one that had dementia, sadly. Funny stories with him. If there was ever a dad podcast, he'd be the one. Because my father,

he was born in 1927, bless him. He only died in 2002. and he had these old fashions, he was an only child, parents being Victorian and born late in life for them and he had this vision that people such as homosexuals could go to the doctors and have an injection and they'd be fine, things like that. So he was of that era bless him, so yeah but he was the one that had dementia out of them and I can relate to it but through

my father of course. Well, I'm wishing you an unbelievable Mother's Day and all your lovely listeners, whatever they're up to. And I love feedback. You know, if anyone listens to the podcast and everything resonates, I love hearing from people. So I'm always encouraging people to send me a message or whatever. And if my weird ramblings about my crazy mum help with people, then all the better, you know, all the better. I'll be in touch anyway, I'll drop you an email

at some point next week. But anyway, let's do your social media. We don't think it can be found. My unbelievable podcast, well, all platforms, nice and easy. However, let's do some social media as well. How else can they find you if that's not good enough? Oh, well, that's not good enough. Well, thank you. I've got a website. If it's not, good to know. As we go, we've got a website. Sonia's mum .com is the website that says a bit about my relationship with my mum.

I've got my own website, which is my sort of professional website, SoniaBeldham .co .uk. And that's more about my hypnotherapy and the work I do. Bit of background. And then on all the different social media platforms, I'm simply either at SoniaBeldham or at MumBelievablePodcast. So there's quite a bit out there if people are interested. Fantastic. And also I should be putting this on my podcast before Mother's Day as well. It's been fascinating. It's been great meeting

you. And I think we should do it again sometime. But yeah, in the meantime, thanks for coming on Chatterbox UK. That's a pleasure. Thank you, Nick. Thank you. Bye bye now. Bye bye. You've been listening to the Chatterbox Redux podcast with me, Nick, and today my special guest was

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