And now here they are, Nick and Sue on Chatterbox. When the stars talk, they talk to Nick and Sue. the Chatterbox Redux podcast. I'm Nick and I'm your host and today our special guest is Christopher Wise. Nick and Sue with Chatterbox giving you all you need to know about musical entertainment. Oh yeah! Chatterbox, the best interviews with Nick and Sue. Chatterbox, the best news We're just lucky enough to welcome Christopher Wise. Christopher, welcome to Chatterbox. How are you,
sir? I'm good, Nick. How are you doing? I'm good, thank you. I'm good, yeah. Yeah, we're all good. Looking forward to summer, so roll it on. Yeah, that's what we want here. Right on the South Coast, it's beautiful, so yeah, bring it on. We're one of the few places in the South Coast where in July, you get dolphins and porpoises, which you don't get in England much, so we get right off where we are on the seafront here.
Looking forward to it. There you go. Yeah. I'm right in the middle of the US, you know, and we don't get any of that stuff. There's no water. There's hardly a hill. It's just kind of boring. So I'm kind of dreaming about what it looks like
where you are today, Nick. But what you're going to have to do, you're going to get yourself over to the UK again and you're going to have to do a tour and you have to make sure you come to the south coast because we are only 35 miles from Brighton, which is a big city, very vibrant city. So if you don't come to Hastings where I am, come to Brighton, you know. I'm going to put that on my very short invitation list. I don't have a lot of invitations. It's a place
to be. Okay, now I was reading a bit about you and quite interesting. I mean, I love the song you brought out like for Valentine's and that sounds really good. I've been playing it a little bit. However, normally I would be chatting to people about their careers, how they made it, how they didn't make it, where they've been. But you didn't get into a studio until, will
you tell us, was it 65 or something? Yeah, I think I was right at about 65 when I went to a studio to make my first record of a song of mine and this is not 1965 this is 865 started that's very good i could have been you're looking at me if people can see me they they would know that but yeah you know i i went off and i i had a different world and a different career and a different life and uh did music on the side and sang in bands you know cover bands and through
a crazy set of circumstances uh was convinced to write my own music uh and uh and we did and we made a record and it took off i had no idea what would happen i had no plans for what to do with the record other than at that point in my life i wanted to make the record and we made the record and when i was done i was like we did it but that's when it all started that's the crazy thing nick i thought i thought the goal had been achieved the thing had just started
it was crazy okay so you do that but Basically the recording studio thing was based on some poems that you'd written, turned them into songs, recorded them as songs I believe. And when was that? Was that last year or when did you do that? Well, I actually went into the studio in 2022. I think it was May of 2022. And sort of my little backstory behind it, if you wanted, you know, I had been in cover bands and we were more bluesy than anything. So I really kind of got into the
blues. I discovered the blues by being a blues singer. I mean, that's where I got to it. You know, I got in with these guys and they're playing all these blues classics, Key to the Highway and, you know, on and on it goes. And it's like, man, I got to get into this, and I did, and I got into it big time. So one of the things I wanted to do was do more than sing, I wanted to play the harmonica. So I picked up a harmonica, and I actually went to a harmonica camp in Clarksdale,
Mississippi. And if you and I went down to Clarksdale, Mississippi today, Nick, there would be a bunch of people from the UK there. Really, it's the center of where the blues... began right there in the Mississippi Delta. So I went for a week to work on Blues Harmonica. Believe it or not, you can go there and stay for a week and work on the Blues Harmonica. And I met a guy who became great friend, mentor, co -writer and producer.
Ralph Carter, there, who was an instructor. Ralph was kind of rock and roll royalty in his younger days. He wrote songs and toured and was tour musical director with Eddie Money, who was a great rock and roller back in the 80s. And somehow I'm in this setting in the Mississippi Delta drinking in the blues and probably drinking an adult beverage with this guy, Ralph Carter, who tells me after a few days at the camp, hey, man, you can do this." It was almost like, hey kid,
you can do this. Well, I'm like 60 years old, but he was like, hey little buddy, you can do this. And I'm like, what do you mean? He goes, you could do this, man. You got to start writing your own stuff. And blah, blah, blah. He said, we're going to make a record one day. I said, I'd love to be on your record. He goes, no, we're making your record. Your record. And I'm like, OK, fine. So I go home. I go back to my world. I'm an advertising guy. That's what I was. I
own an ad agency. And I was a writer. I've been a writer forever. I got five books in print. I've written millions of words that people have paid me to write. And so I'm a writer, but I'd never written a song. And so Ralph said, you got to start writing songs. And one day I read an article about a new studio in Muscle Shoals that this guy had bought this old mansion and kind of refurbed it into a recording studio where
the band can stay for the week. And away we go, and so I snapped a picture of it, I texted it to Ralph, he's out near Los Angeles, California, you know, way out on the west coast. I'm here kind of on the eastern part of the U .S. And I said, hey man, here's where we're gonna make our record. To be honest, it was a joke. And he said, yeah, it looks good. When do we record? And I could tell he wasn't kidding. And I went back to him and I was like, Ralph, I don't have
any songs written. And he goes, well, You better get started. Yeah. So we talked and I mean, I think it was 12 weeks later. I met him again in Mississippi. I picked him up at the airport in Memphis, Tennessee. Great music spot in the US. We drove 90 minutes to Clarksdale, Mississippi. We sat there for three days on a picnic bench with a pile of lyrics. I had written maybe 15 or 20 songs in those 12 weeks. And they were just words on paper at that point. You said poems.
I would say, no, probably more lyrics. And we sat there and made them into songs and recorded them on my iPhone, little demos. And Ralph was the music, you know, brilliance and genius. You know, I contributed the words and then we collectively worked on it together and improve both sides of it. And at that point, he said, I'll produce the album. I'll do it in Muscle Shoals. Well, in fact, I think I had already booked the recording time before he and I ever met to make them into
songs. It's like, look, I'm 65 years old. I have to do this. I'm not sure why, but I have to do it. And so we took those demos. He auditioned studio musicians. He wrote charts. We showed up on a Monday morning. We got there actually Sunday night, but Monday morning I met the band. I didn't know these guys. I didn't know how you do a recording session. I didn't know what I would do. Ralph said, don't worry about it. I'll handle it. You just stick with me, friend. And
he's a very unassuming man. And I was like, I trust you. I trust you. And a week later, at the end of the week, we walked out of there with our record. It didn't have a name. My band didn't have a name. I didn't have a name as a performer. And so I had this record and then through some crazy circumstances got connected with a record label in Memphis, Tennessee, and they signed us a big radio records. Sam Phillips is nephew, the great Sam Phillips of Sun Studios and Sun
Records. He started a company called Selecto Hits run today by Johnny Phillips who also runs the big radio records label and he signed me to a record deal to put out this album called Stuck in the Mud. The funny thing is, I'm bouncing around Nick, but When I was on my way down to pick up Ralph at the airport in Memphis, this was for us to take my lyrics and try to make them into songs. I looked down at my GPS of my Ford Explorer SUV that every American drives,
right? So I'm looking down there and I'm like, where in the heck am I? And it's like three hours from Memphis. So I'm three hours from Memphis. I'm like, oh man, that's a song. And so the first song on our record is that we, our first debut album is Three Hours from Memphis. So I'm in the car there and I have this idea about this guy, you know, it's fictional. He's going to Memphis, he's going to meet some big record guy and he's going to be a star. So that was kind
of what the song was about. So I'm in the car and I mean, in a flash, I had the idea in my head. for the song, the whole song, every bit of it, the whole, the way the song worked, the story. And I was like, I was like scared. It was like, I don't want to stop driving. I'm in this groove. And so I reached over and grabbed a little. The notepad, I have a notepad that
has little pieces of paper like this. That might even be some of the lyrics, but and I wrote the song on the little console as I was driving down the road at 65, 70 miles an hour. And I remember, you know, Took me about an hour and I had the song done just on these little scraps of paper. And then two days later, we made it into a song. Twelve weeks later, we recorded it and everything. And the funny thing is, Nick, that song. I didn't realize it was it was autobiographical. It was
about me. I wrote about meeting a guy, a music man in Memphis. I didn't know anybody in Memphis, but and. I got introduced to a guy in Memphis long after the album was made. So the story of the song played out in my life, but I wrote it before it happened and I didn't know it. I mean, you talk about bizarre. And so now when I get an inkling about music or somebody says, would you be interested in doing this? I just say yes, because I'm not sure what it's about, but I'm
sure not going to say no. So there you go. That's a great sign. If you can predict things that well, I'd like the lottery numbers for Saturday, please. Can you do that? That's a good prediction, wasn't it? I love it. It was. You shouldn't call it what you like. Well, that's wonderful how
that works out. Yeah, it did. And so there we had this album and I... I did it unlike other people, other people, you know, they have a band, they go around, they play little gigs and, and backyards and then bigger gigs and blah, blah, blah. And then they write their own music and then they get a record. Well, I did it exactly the opposite. I did a record and then we got it out there. So we did it the opposite because, and you know, Nick, I couldn't have done it any
other way because. Am I going to do that? Starting at age 65, start and play little gigs? I was in a band, we were a cover band. We did festivals, not big festivals, little things, wine festivals, beer things. We had a lot of fun with it, but it wasn't going to get us anywhere. So I had to get the record out there and that traveled out and got us going. It traveled for us. Wonderful. Let's move you to 2025. It looks like this bit was quite a good year for you. Pretty good. Yeah.
So we were talking about the Roots Music Reports top 100 blues albums of 2025. Now, a lot of artists out there turning out stuff like that. However, you were the only artist to have had two albums on that 2025 chart. Yeah. I mean, again, it's crazy. You look, you know, look at the names on that. They're all the blues acts, you know, and I'm the only artist that got two of them in there. So it was my debut album. And then I did a follow -up album, which was a live album,
because I had to keep stuff going. I'm not out touring. I'm not out in front of fans. So I said, let's do a live album and just put it out there. We'll record. We'll do the first album. We'll record it as a show. And we did. And so then the second album does well. And as you say, both
of them ended up, which is crazy. albums I don't I'm new to the whole business but I don't think they hang around that long that's why it's so unusual to have two albums that would land in the top hundred one of them I think somewhere in the 20s and one of them down in the 90s but one of them was a new album one of them was a year old and and it's still hanging around there yeah to be honest with you my my in albums in general in various charts whether it be a top
like might be the billboard 200 albums or it could be the uk top 100 albums Out of experience, I think the albums that are lower down hang around much longer. The peak is so slow, it's not a bad thing. It's just bubbling out the top 20 or the top 30. It's not actually a bad thing. Not if you're hanging around for a year, it's
not, is it? You know, and I know I do believe that the lower down albums the ones that don't something, you know You got albums that have got some money behind them And there's this big don't matter what chart is it could be this one. We're talking about it could be on the billboard chart It is irrelevant. Really. It has a push from a record company. It has that big hit It's dropping down in the singles chart in the uk.
The average number one. Um is in the charts four weeks That's the number one Yeah club it's So that's why I'm saying, I think the fact is that it's a lower down charting albums. That's hence the longevity, which is good. And also people may be talking about the first album. This is a guy's first album. And that might be the one that's giving it legs as well. So it could be. Yeah. And you know, we've been on it. I hope it's around for 2026 end of year as well. Yeah,
it just keeps going, which is really cool. And, you know, we've been on other charts. There's all sorts of charts. I mean, I'm not going to be on a pop chart. I'm not a pop artist. We're in that blues genre and Americana genre here in the U .S. We sometimes find ourselves there. But, you know, our stuff's been so well received in Europe, in the UK, France, Australia, Canada.
We just have a lot of of interest and that's what I love maybe about England and Europe in general is just the appreciation for music, maybe more so than in the U .S. I feel. I just feel that especially sort of the genre I'm in, the blues, of just the reverence for that music is tremendous. in the UK. It's tremendous in France and all over, of course, Europe. In the UK, that's
a very appreciative audience. be quiet and listen and enjoy it they will give your applause at the end and they'll give you know a rapturous applause at the end but um so let me say a little more sophisticated if that's the right wording and they're not all millionaires and well -to -do people living in merchants but they are yeah there's that sort of background and uh yeah um you'll notice that in the uk the type of venues that uh you probably get booked in and things
like that there might be more wine bars or larger places yeah yeah As opposed to a pub in the back street or club. The places to book that are different as well. Jazz clubs and blues clubs and things. I had the pleasure of recording with Emma Wilson who's a an English blues singer. We both work with Selecto Hits. Johnny Phillips, Big Radio Records is my label. She's on a different label, but we both distribute around the world through Selecto Hits, which is the company. And they
introduced us. And so she and I did a Christmas song that I wrote, and then she helped co -wrote. And Ralph Carter jumped in and helped write as well. And so we did that one. And that was just such a delight. And she had one day in her schedule. Uh, she said, well, I'm touring, I'm doing a little tour of the mid south in the U S I got one day where I'm not doing something. I said, Hey, if I wrote a song, would you record it with
me? She said, yeah. So crazy, just crazy. We booked a studio and they happened to have one day open in the next six months. I tried and tried to find a studio, Johnny Phillips, who again, through the Phillips family, he said, relax pal. I'll see if I can make something happen.
And he got us with a Royal studios. Famous studio Al Green recorded everybody's recorded at Royal and we recorded with their band the high rhythm section and put out a couple of Christmas tunes and That was that was just a delightful thing to do And and particularly to be able to do it with Emma who has such a good audience in the UK and in Europe okay so let's get to 2026 now we got this sort of a valentine's there's two on to talk about we've got this valentine's thing
so her name in my song love i love the picture lots of those love heart sweets with a broken one her name in my song is the big one in the front so christopher wise and the tellers so uh that was uh for valentine's day and we've got another release that came out on march the fifth this ain't that tell us about that yeah well i'll go back i'll start with the uh i'll call it the valentine's tune but yeah it's anything but a valentine's tune lovely i like it's actually
a breakup song man so i had this idea of uh You know, the punchline of this thing is this guy will never ever under any circumstances put her name in my song. I mean, that's kind of what it is. So it's kind of a twist. And I thought, well, I'm going to see if I can write sort of instead of a love song, maybe a hate song. This dude hates her. So you listen to the song and it actually has such a beautiful, beautiful music
to it that I just simply adore. But the lyrics are, I mean, this guy is, he's ticked off, man. He's not happy. And he's not gonna put her name in a song. And then it became a real challenge for me. I thought, can I write a song about a girl and have it be a love song, which is really a hate song, and not put her name in the song? And I did it. we never mentioned her name in the song. And people come to me and they'll say, they listen to the song, say, all right, Chris,
who was the gal that dumped you, man? I mean, who is this girl? I'm like, I made the whole thing up. I never had this happen to me. I just made it up. I had an email come to me, how the guy found me. I think he was from Bulgaria. He goes, I am convinced. I know who she is in the song. Her name is Katrina. Yeah, man, if that's who you think it is, you just go with that. That's good, man. And I said, no, there's no girl. It was all made up. A traitor in Bulgaria. Yeah,
so she's there somewhere. He's running around. Yeah, OK. He's over there mad in Bulgaria about some girl who's dumped him, I guess. But, you know, it's so funny. That's what's great about songs. Oh, brilliant. You knew there had to be someone somewhere. Yeah, he's taking this thing real seriously. I'm like, dude, I'm just goofing around. But we played it serious. No, I actually love the song. It's one of my favorite songs that we've done. But I just had a ton of fun
with it. I think I may have told you I was a writer before I did this. I mean, I'm a hired gun, man. You give me an assignment and a deadline, and I'll get it done. People say, well, how could you write this album and do your first album when you're 65 years old? You met in 12 weeks after you agreed to do it. It's like, I had a deadline. I used to write for a newspaper. I used to write for a magazine. I'm an ad guy. They don't wait for you to get your. ad done.
You get your stuff done or you can't live in this business. I've even done lots of freelance. I know how that works. No, the deadlines do not work, end of. Well, you miss that, yeah. You don't miss a deadline. And if you're freelancing, you miss that, you don't get any more work at all. No. So I think people don't understand, you know, the hard thing for me was to agree to Ralph to do it because I knew if I agreed to it, I'd do it. Yeah. And I knew it would be
hard work. And so I put it off. But not for very long, so we eventually did it. So the second song, I'll get back to this one, Nick. The second song is another kind of goofy song. I actually recorded both of these songs in Muscle Shoals in 2022. And I didn't do anything with them because they were kind of outliers. They didn't really fit the vibe of the rest of the album, my first album, which was pretty much blues most of the
way. And so I. I just kind of had these songs laying around and I played them for Scott Sexton. He's a guy in the music business, you know, and I played it for my record label. And they're like, both of these, they're like, what are you?
how come you haven't released these songs you knucklehead these are great and uh so whatever i'm like really they're like yes you have to release this song so the second one is this ain't that yeah and this was based on i just you know as a songwriter and you know you're a writer you know things pop into your head so i had this phrase pop into my head this ain't that and that's where it's at and so i thought well that's kind of funny that's It's kind of like me and you,
you're in school, and I'm over here, but all the cool people are over there. They left me out. This ain't that. And that's where it's at. So I thought, well, I'll write a song about that someday. And then I thought, well, I got to tell the story. And it's like, no, I'm not going to tell the story. I'm just going to make it a total kind of nonsense song that really doesn't have any meaning. And so that was my idea. My inspiration
for this song was a great Louis Prima. And I don't know if you know Louis Prima, but a lot of people know the song Jump, Jive, and Whale, which was a song from the 50s. A great jump song and great high energy. And so that was kind of the inspiration. And one of the things I loved about Louis Prima's Jump, Jive, and Whale... was the fact that it didn't mean anything. It was just a bunch of kind of nonsense to a cool beat that got you up and kind of got you moving,
man. So I thought, can I write a song like that? I've written serious songs. I've written my friend got murdered songs. I mean, I've written all sorts of things. This guy's a drunk and he's not going to make it. I mean, I write blues songs. And then I thought, can I write just a nonsense song? So there you go. This ain't that. And we had a lot of fun. And to make it even more nonsensical, we were in the studio recording it with Ralph.
And I remember he and I are in the control room, and maybe somebody's out there playing a solo part or something, some instrument. I said, hey, Ralph, how would you feel if we put a kazoo on this song? He's like, oh, kazoo, man. I love it. Let's do it. And I go to Michael, who runs the studio. I say, Michael, you got any kazoo's over here? He's like, we got kazoo's here? No, no kazoo's in the studio. And he's like, Dylan, get over here. Dylan's the intern. Dylan, get
over here. Get in the car and go to the music shop and buy some kazoos. So boom, he goes down the road and comes back. And he can now say he spent his summer getting kazoos for Christopher Wise and the Tellers. But he comes back with kazoos. And so we put the kazoo on there. And it's like, I got this part. And I'm kind of playing it. And it goes up high. And I'm like, I can't play it. So I'm like, how many kazoos we got?
Oh, good. We got a couple of them. So I say, can somebody play the tenor part, kazoo, the kazoo tenor, the tenor kazoo, and I'll play the bass kazoo. And so we had two kazoo's and then I put a harmonica in the middle of it. So that contributes to the hijinks of the song. I was just listening. I just watched a movie the other day about the great George Martin, the producer who used to produce. you know, silly stuff, comedy records and Peter Sellers and The Goon Show and
all that stuff. And so maybe this had a little bit of a tribute to all my great British comedian kind of folks out there who went ahead of me. But it was just to be funny and the songs out there and I did have somebody. send me a note on Facebook or something. Oh, I really, you know, I got such great meaning out of this song. I don't know if they were kidding, but it's like, no, you didn't. You might need some help. There's nothing here. Oh, they're on some good stuff.
Could be that. You never know. Something's in the water. Could be anything. This is Nick and Sue with Cheddar Box, giving you all you need to know about musical entertainment. Cheddar Box. Cheddar Box. I've got to ask you, while we're talking about things like that, what did you answer the guy in Bulgari? Did you actually say, yeah, yeah, that's her? Did you actually say, you should have done? I should have done it, but I think I just thought the easy way and
told the truth, Nick. I said, well, it wasn't actually anyone particular, but have a nice day. Good luck with your life, you're going to need it. So, Kate, we'll do your social media in just a moment before I let you go. What's your next plan for 2026? More singles? Another album? You know, a couple of things have happened in the last two months. I've done two recording sessions in Nashville, Tennessee. I've gotten asked to start doing some music for television and movies.
Nothing to announce, no big scores yet, but I have recorded several things and got a great producer in Nashville now I'm working with to make songs for that world and he's been very successful and we hope it happens. These songs were a little bit more country in nature and it's really fun like to write for a movie. I got a little thing, here's like three sentences about the movie and it's like, give us this theme song. And so, you know, again, I'm just having
fun with all this. It's like, heck yes, man, because I remembered Jim Riley, the producer. He's like, hey, I got to have we got to be recording this in 10 days. He goes, you're going to have to have something written in a day or two. I said, I'll take it. Give it to me. And, you know, I wrote it overnight. And a few days later, we're recording it in the studio. And I can't wait for that one to get out there. We'll we'll release it as a single as well. I don't care what happens
to it in the in the movie world. And then I'll be meeting Ralph Carter once again this time in May in Clarkstone, Mississippi with another pile of lyrics. He and I are going to produce another album of originals. I've got one song written and I've got some work to do and a deadline, but that's all right. You'll be good. I just want there to be another Katrina somewhere. I don't care what she's called. When we meet next time, come and talk about the album when you've
sorted it all out. I might write a song about a guy writing me from Bulgaria. That might be a good song. I'll do it. I'll just do a song called Katrina. Yeah. And then if he says, well, is this about Katrina? And I said, no, no, this is about Katrina and the waves, this one. No, no, no. Nick, here's the way I write songs. I'm going to give you the title of the song. Her name wasn't Katrina. That'll be my song. Very good. And then in the song, I won't tell you
what her name is again. Again. Brilliant. I love it. I'm going to write that down. Her name wasn't Katrina. That might be on the next album. I'll keep you posted, man. I'll tell you what. Not only the next album, it's got to be on the next interview. Make sure that's our follow -on, all right? Well, this has been a blast. I could do this every day with you, man. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's what I do. I just like meeting real people. And, you know, like I say, as I say,
there could be A -list as well. Susie Cottro is the regular on here. You know her, obviously. Great. Great rock chick. You know. She's just a normal person deep down gives her opinions does that and boy is she funny. It's just what it's like We just chat as people You got something to sell i've got a show that I need to guest on it works really well You know what I mean?
You know One time, you know nick I was talking to ralph carter and ralph got started I mean, he's probably I don't know maybe 20 years old and he's playing in front of 25 000 people with eddie money and so i'm like ralph I feel like I missed out man. I wish I would have done the music thing and, you know, I became an advertising guy. And now I'm getting it to it way later in life. And, you know, I feel like, you know, I don't know, maybe I'm just a little wishful thinking,
you know, regretful that I didn't do it. He goes, no, believe me, it worked out perfectly. And if I would have done this at age 25, would I have been any good? No, I don't think I would have. I had to get beat up and run a business and write. write advertising and books and do all sorts of things. You may be, I can't talk, I don't know. Obviously we don't know the 20,
21 year old Christopher Wise, but you did. But when the music business then was a hell of a rat race, you were 20, that would have been your living. Yeah. A different thing. You had to, you'd be forced to write stuff you probably didn't want to write, where you're writing stuff you do want to write now. Right. Things like that. We haven't got much time left. What I'd like to do is do some social media So uh, chuck up web websites any social media you got chuck it
out them now, please Yeah, facebook. So christopher wise and tellers on facebook. We've got fans all over the world, which is really fun So, you know follow us all that kind of stuff. We're putting stuff up all the time Our youtube channel
is just blowing up. We've got we're getting close to 10 000 subscribers We put up youtube's all the time in the studio Rehearsal doing stupid things, you know, you name it we got stuff there YouTube channel So Christopher wise and the tellers you can certainly subscribe there So I really focus just on Facebook and YouTube and and then our website I am a writer and I've written everything there and once you get there you're gonna say whoa Why'd you write so much? It's like I'm a
writer, man. That's what I do. So our website's christopherwise .com. Christopher, W -Y -Z -E .com. There's a bunch of stuff up on there too. So love to have everybody join us. And just to get there while we're thinking about it, Christopher Wise, the Wise is spelt W -Y -Z -E being the English pronunciation. So don't go putting in W -I -S -E. It's W -Y -Z -E. and you probably find them anyway, but there you go. So yeah, all good. That'll do it. Yeah, that'll get everybody
there, Nick. And we're on every streaming platform, you know, all over the world. We've got a great distributor in selecto hits out of Memphis. And so they get our music everywhere. You can look
at it, whatever you listen to. I must say I do like the her name in my song I know you're doing other stuff we do do a show a live show here in the UK very popular in Europe it is called hit or miss it's a live show yeah North Sea International we're just get to the end of the season but And that I would be quite keen on entering I will let you know if we do and the listeners votes for it and there's all sorts of stuff so I listen to what else you bring out but that one I think
would be a really good one for the mainstream audiences to listen to first to get to know you Oh, that would be so much fun. Leave it with me and I'll keep you posted on it. It's in good hands. You get your fans to do it. But I do it with my partners too, that show. And it's on a Sunday night here in the UK. It's a very, very popular show. And people vote for what they think is going to be a hit or a miss. That's fantastic. Love to have you do it. Take it away, man. That's
great. OK. Anyway, Christopher Wise, it's been great meeting you, even though it's an hour later than it should have been or whatever. I haven't been told it's my fault. Yeah, of course. People who change the clock. I have the same person in my home, Nick. You've got this one full time, anyway. It's a great pleasure. I should be in on it next time, probably. Pleasure meeting you. And yeah, I'm looking forward to this going out
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