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musical entertainment. Oh yeah! Chatterbox! And now we say hello to Andy Kiriakou, the lead singer of Modern Romance. Well, Andy, you've had a pretty long music career, really. Did you come from a musical family or how did you start getting into singing and music? You know, there's actually, other than a cousin in Cyprus, two brothers, cousins who were in a band in Cyprus, there's no actual musical connection in my genes, so to speak. I was the first one. And that just
came about purely from the love of music. I love music. Music became everything. I wanted to listen to music and it accompanied me whenever I could have it on. But I never had aspirations of being a musician at all. Although when I think back to when I was a kid, we used to go to, with my parents, we used to go to a lot of Greek weddings. And Greek weddings always had a live band, always. It might be like a three -piece Rubber Kills
band. Never had a band. And I remember as a kid, for some reason always going to the front of the stage and sitting down and looking at the drums. I just remember that. But then what happened is a friend of mine at school when I was about 14, 15, came in one day and said, oh, I brought myself a drum kit. In the old days, he used to be in the boys' brigade, playing the snare drum and stuff. The boys did the drum kit. So I was like, totally didn't think, oh really? Big deal.
I'll see it when I come round. So I was round his house three or four times a week after school, I'd go round. And this kit was there, and I looked at it, and yeah, it was a drum kit. But I sat behind it at one point, and he gave me the drum kit, drum stick, so I just clapped there and just went, literally flailed around like a flippin' octopus, doesn't know what he's doing. I just hit the thing, I was left right and sent that.
And something clicked at that second. I don't know what it was, but when I walked away from his house that night, I was looking round and I thought, I need to bang on things. I really enjoyed that. So the next day I went to a local shop and I bought some drumsticks. I thought I could afford, I'm a kid at school, drumsticks. And then went home, and I don't know if any listeners will remember this, but you used to be able to get a little flat unit, looks like a heater.
What we have now on the floor is a little floor heater. and you'd plug a hose into it and you'd put a hat thing on and it would dry your hair, it would air dry, I think. You sat on the side, yeah? My mum had one of those, in a box. So I
took the box. and that became my drum kit and I started bashing the doubt in it and of course after a couple of days it was torn to shreds because you're hitting it with these drumsticks even though I had no idea what I was doing I'm still hitting this thing so I decided well I can't keep playing on boxes so I decided from that point I would drum on the bed and it became an obsession I would drum on the bed using the bed as my kit listening to different stuff, I'd
listen to things like I'm allowed to say this because it's a musical thing I'd listen to the Glowy Glitter band because they had two drummers I really like that. And I'd listen to status quo. I was into status quo at the time. I'd just gotten into Deep Purple, so I'd listen to those sort of bands because they had serious drummers. Try and do what they were doing. Of course, no idea what I was doing myself. They're just trying to replicate, trying to do what I think they're
doing to get that sound. Bear in mind, I'm playing on the bed, so I have no pedals. So this is all fine until eventually you get a truncate, your first truncate, and look down and go, oh, yeah, never took those into consideration. Now I've got to relearn how to play using those. Yeah, that was my musical background, really. That was it. There was no influence from anyone else. I mean, the guys in Cyprus, I never met them till I was my first. I mean, it might be coincidence.
My first trip to Cyprus was when I was 14. Right, I can't remember. They were in a band and I saw them and I was like, oh wow, you know, and came back and shortly after that is when my friend bought his drum kit. I don't know if there was any correlation between the two, but that drum kit was like, I describe it many times. Playing that kit that day, it was like my first kiss there. It's like bang, something happened. He's like, wow, wow, you know, and that was it. I
was in school. I guess I'm going to say we're looking mid -70s, is that about right, time -wise? Yeah, yeah. Did you ever think when when you're watching those people that you would actually be there one day or did you just want to be there? And I would be either imagining an audience watching this play, and I'd be like, oh, it would be good to be on Top of the Pops, but that's never going to happen. And I was just imagining audiences
and stuff. And the funny thing is, Top of the Pops, I remember only a couple of months before we were on Top of the Pops. When I first met Modern Romance, a month into them, it was only two months later, two months after joining them, that we were on Top of the Pops. But in that interim period, and even just before I met them, I obviously watched Top of the Pops avidly. It was the show to watch. and I've seen friends
appear on there. I've seen my friends that I was in a band with appear in a band called Lynx. The bass player from Sketch, I was in a band with him, and he appeared on there with Lynx. Then the other guys that weren't made with Sketch and went off and formed a different band, they were Central Line. They also were on Top of the Box. OK, got him. Yeah, I'm watching this band thinking, God, Father Spade is either one of those. Father Spade in the original band, which
split it. I might have gone to that one or that one and then a couple of months later, I'm on top of a rock. Very strange. Yeah. Brilliant, mate. I love them. Modern romance were already formed just when you joined them. I believe the history you've told me is they came from a group called the Leighton Buzzards. Is that right? But by the time you met them, it was modern romance. And I think they had one record that was a flop.
But how did you... Get to meet them and was it a gig or how did you actually end up being the drummer there? It was the club in London where Steve Strange was running it. Oh, I know, yeah, yeah, yeah. I know who you mean now. The band always would go there and Boy George and everyone was there, you know, mixing and all strange clothes and strange hair, you know. Whereas now we've got no hair, but there he goes. Anyway, so I decided to pop in there one night, because I
was always clubbing. That was my thing. I didn't smoke, I didn't drink, I didn't do drugs. I was interested in going to clubs, dancing, and meeting people. That was my thing. One night, it just turned out that I said to a friend of mine, which we go to now, let's go to the Blitz. And I often think, I don't know if you ever saw that film, Sliding Doors, where it's got... different scenarios, if you'd have done this or if you'd have done that. And I can think, had I not gone out that
night... How different my life would have been because that's the night I went out and the band had just finished. I missed them. There was a band called Modern Romance. And I thought, oh, and I chatted to somebody in the audience. I said, were they any good? And they said, yeah, they weren't bad. So I thought, I'll go and chat to them. I spoke to the then drummer and I said, listen, I'm a drummer as well. If you know anybody who's looking for a drummer, I'm in between gigs
at the minute. And he said, give me your numbers and I'll see what I can do. And a few days later, I got a call saying, would you like to come and
play percussion for us? congas timbales or whatever and i thought well it's not quite it's not quite being a drummer but having said that it's it's the next best thing and i thought i stand to reason i think let's just go and i said yeah okay it'll be fine so and then before that actually all happened and i went to see them and you know to have a chat and do these percussion gigs i've got a second phone call saying scrap the first phone call would you like to be a drummer Okay.
And I thought, hang on a second, you don't know me, you don't know if I can play, what about your... So I said, look, Preston, I said, you've got a drummer. I spoke to him. Yeah. Because to be honest, we were going to get rid of him anyway, he just doesn't know. And I start asking someone to marry you via letter when you've never even met them. So I said, hello, my name's Preston, would you like to marry me? Yeah. I said, you don't know if I can play, you don't know anything
about me. And they said, well no, apparently you used to play in this band, a band I used to play called Rocker G, who became quite a cult. sort of band, they had a cult follow -in and were very, quite well known on the London scene. And they said, if you were the drummer of Rocker G, what kind of guy from the band saw that band performing at Mung Bridge in London? And I said,
I was the drummer. And they said, well, in that case, we know all the band can play, because you said they're great at band work, so if you were that drummer, you can play, you're in. And I said, well, what about the other guy? And they went, well, listen, if you don't take the gig, we're going to find someone else who does, but we don't actually want him in the band anymore. I mean, I'm not usually one to step on people's
toes, but I thought. If they're going to give it to someone else anyway, I really should take this. So I had no choice but to. I said, OK, I'm taking it. And that was that. In the glorious, glorious surroundings of a rehearsal studio, underneath a railway arch is in Leighton. But I came here not knowing they had a record deal. So the fact that they've got one, there's neither here nor there. I didn't know they had two flop singles. So whatever, let's just get on with
it. So we began rehearsals and things. And then they said, right, this is going to be our next song. And they said, it goes like this, blah, blah. and it turned out it was everybody sells that. I remember thinking at the time, bear in mind, the bands I played in before, and the Rocker G and the bands before that, some of them were jazz -funged bands, and they were very music -based in that there was not very much singing. There was with Rocker G, but it was very different
singing. Rocker G was got across between ABC, Gary Newman, and loads of other stuff that was going on before they actually came out. That's why it's quite an innovative band, just turned out that way. So all of a sudden I'm in this band, and then... there'd been these chants like everybody else and I'm thinking, that's a bit poppy, you know? I'm used to playing like jazz fusion and stuff and serious funk, you know? Average right band and whatever, what's going
on? But I thought, okay, well, this is what I think is a single, that's right, I'm the newest person in town and I'm there to play gums. So what happened, the funny thing is, it's really funny how things turn out because I've just joined this band, you know, literally just joined, doing rehearsals, and because I was such a... I was a heavy, that's the word I suppose, a heavy club -goer. I was constantly out clubbing. I've become friends with quite a few of the DJs. And remember,
1980, 81, PAs were not really happening. There was someone to do a PA in a club, come and do a personal appearance and send to their record and all that stuff. So I went to this club in London, in Welshwick, with Ombres, where a friend of mine was a DJ. And I told him I'd just joined this band, blah, blah, blah. And I gave him a copy of the track and he went, this has got bad. He said, would you... You see they're doing a PA at the club. What's a PA? It's a meeting of
style, a personal appearance. You play the track, you sing along to it, and then you just meet the audience and give out a few singles. It's just a way of promoting yourselves quickly to, you know, two, three hundred people having an earring here. The world gets about, and who knows? Okay, fine. So I told the guys, they all agreed to it, and we did it, and it was a fantastic
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for it. Why don't we sort of go in the middle ground and do a tour, a tour of PAs, where you just go from one club to the other doing PAs. So what we ended up doing was we got a bus, first order to go, and arranged accommodation, obviously. And we would drive, for example, to Wolverhampton. We would do a PA in a club. It could be 1 ,000 people. It could be 500. It could be 200. But we'd do a PA in a club in Wolverhampton. to say
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you're at another club in Birmingham. or another one in Wolverhampton, whatever's in the range, and do a PA there, and then stay the night, and then the next day maybe go to Birmingham, do a couple there, the next day go to Leicester, and then go up and down, and we did that, and what happened, the by -product of this was that all the DJs at these clubs obviously had jobs as a radio DJ, many of them had radio DJ jobs during the day, on a provincial little station
somewhere, Birmingham Radio, it could be a small radio station in Birmingham. But they would all go on their show and speak to their producers and say, they had this guy who was in a club last night playing this true, this great record. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we play. We put it on the playlist. And he would go on the playlist. And gradually, he got on all the playlists of all these little provincial... things and the only people not playing it are the big two at the time, Capital
Radio and Radio One. And they're the ones that really garnered all the listeners overall in the UK. So it came to the point where they had no option, the big ones, but to say, well no, this record's getting a lot of play in all these provincial stations. People are asking for us to play it, let's start playing it. Well of course as soon as they started to play it and the rest of the... The UK heard about it, not just people
in towns that you visited. Then you start to climb up the charts and eventually it hit the top 40. And once that happened, we got our invitation to go on top of the pot. That's when you could have blown me down with a feather at that time. And that was within two months. Wow, that's quick moving. That is quick moving. Absolutely fantastic. Yes, the first hit there for Modern Romance. And that was, of course, Everybody Tells Her. Why do they choose the name Modern Romance? Lack
of imagination. I'll tell you why. I'll tell you why. That's a great name. We know the story. I think it is a great name. But I say they chose that name because what happened is two members transitioned from Lay & Buzz and left from a band called Modern Romance and decided to change the whole direction of the band going in. was a punk and they decided that's called Modern Romance and have more of that romantic, the new
romantic sound to make it more electronic. So the first song was called Modern Romance and they'd written this song and said, right, they gave it to a record company and the record company said, yeah, that's fine, we love that. What's the name of the band? And they kind of looked at each other and went, uh, Modern Romance. So it was Modern Romance by Modern Romance. They hadn't thought that far ahead because they didn't
think. anything would happen that quickly and there you go as i said lack of foresight but it turned out to be a good name i i love them though it's absolutely brilliant and looking at some of your chart positions you know in the 80s was quite incredible but we do come up with a a certain song and see wants to ask you about that one what is i i i moosey about yeah I would say that it's nothing really meaningful about the starving children of the world. It's nothing
meaningful as assholes, right? There's no meaning up there. The meaning behind it is actually quite... It's funny, right, basically, one of the guys in the band had a cousin who was a black cab driver. He drove a black cab, a black taxi in London, you know, the black cabs. And he said to... The guy's name was Michael. We used to call him Mickey. And his surname was Moss. That was Mickey Mouse. And he became Mickey Mouse. And then it got changed to Mickey Moose. And
then it got changed to Moosey. That was it. And so he became known as Moosey for years. And then one day, this guy said to him, the guy in the band said to him, I'll bet you I can put your name in our next song. Because we've just had a hit with Everybody's House. And he said to him, I'll bet our next song I can put your name in it. And he was going to be a hit. And he goes, I do need to put my name in it. He said, oh, I could have your name Moosey in there. And he
said, um, you're talking rubbish, mate. I can't put my name in it. Where does Moosey fit into the brown skin with things? Anyway, so he wrote this song, and it was I, I, I, Moosey. Um, and that's a bit, basically, it's a kind of a nod, if you like, a tip of the hat to Moosey used to be a black cab driver, pants and so, you know, millions of our kids, we used to see him all
the time, great bloke. Um, and it's a little nod to him, and to show that you can sneak in a name in a pop song, and it'll still get there. Wow, brilliant. Now Andy, I must say the modern romance sound with you involved, we're still talking about when you were the drummer, now it's got a unique sound. There isn't anyone else in the 80s that sounds like that. It was a unique sound and a very good sound. Now... It isn't just basically the UK where you were massive.
I'm now going to Asia. Now, I can't remember which country it was. You were massive in an Asian country. Which one was it, mate? Well, actually, we were actually massive in quite a few Asian countries that we were unaware of. This is the thing. We didn't know. For example, we were asked to do a commercial. Bear in mind, I don't drink. And I'm Greek. We're asked to do a commercial for Japanese whiskey. I thought, what? Excuse me? OK. It sounds like a Del Boy
moment. Go on. Yeah, it's a Del Boy scene, isn't it? There. That's a number. A commercial for Japanese whiskey. Hang on. And where are we filming this commercial for Japanese whiskey? In LA. How the tour related is beyond me. But anyway. Having done this commercial, we decided that... The song we used for the commercial, we then wrote it as a single for the Japanese market. We'd originally written it as a single in itself.
Changed the lyrics for the commercial, obviously, but it was released in Japan and we thought, OK, nothing's going to happen, whatever. And then we set up, well, the record company set up a Far East tour. OK. So we thought, OK, we'll go to the Far East, let them know what we can do, introduce our sound to them, see what they're... Say, this is what romance, how do you like it, you know, sort of thing. And we turn up at the airport, the very first street we go to, I think
it was, we landed in Thailand first. So we landed in Thailand, landed in Bangkok, and obviously, because I failed to speak, I didn't know we were, you know, anyone who knew who the hell we were, but we had security come and collect us and take us through the VIP area, so we don't have to get checked and everything. And... And I said, well, she's all very nice, you know, arranging all these things. King of Thailand, yeah. Very
good. Yeah, how lovely. And then we walked out to the main concourse, and it was just jam -packed with people. And I said, home, what's going on? I said, there's something important happening here, you know, why are all these people here? And I said, no, they're here for you. They're here for us. They said, no, they're here to see you. No, you're coming, they're here for you. And I said, why? I really, we all assumed it. No one knew who the hell he was. He said, oh,
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the planet and show your true colours. Modern Romance, obviously, they have their run of quite large number of hits and they split up, of course. Now, at some point, you've legally got the Modern Romance name. I mean, how did you get Modern Romance back together? And you obviously are the lead singer now. I mean, that's a big step. So, tell us about, we know about the split. Tell us about how you got back together, which is much more interesting because you're still together.
Well, basically, I saw... In the early 2000s, I could see that there were a few gigs happening where people would put together, for example, Shalimar, Odyssey and Rolls Royce. They were an 80s soul thing. And I thought, these 80s things are really starting to take off. And I thought,
we should really become part of this. So I contacted David James, who was the... founder member of the band and the person when I left carried it on obviously because it was his name, his band, he carried it on for a real while but it didn't do very well so they just kind of went up and fell by the wayside and he got into management and was more interested in that so he developed that side of things so I contacted him this is after quite a few years not seeing each other
and we got together and it was uh and I've just suggested it and I said look this is what's happening on the music scene at the moment there's a kind of a retro thing happening where everyone's um you know to listen to what they listen to in their youth. You know, all the people that are 45, 50, what they listen to, what they listen to when they're between 15 and 20, you know, when they were growing up. And I said, we could
be part of that. But he was, because he was into the management thing, he said to me, I really, you know, I can't see myself going on stage again. He said, I think I'm just not that way inclined anymore. I'm into management. So he said, I'm
not really into doing it. And he said, look, you're... as much a part of the band as anyone else has ever been he said um if you want to do it you've got my permission to actually take over the range and do it yourself get who you want to be in the band get whichever band members you still want to be in with you or rent it with other people whatever you want to do but and we signed we had a contract drawn up which we both signed and he said there you go we have
the name off you go And if you ever need any help, I'll be here for you. And do you know what? It's funny, because I never saw him for years. And since that meeting, and with him saying to me, if you ever need anything, he has helped me a few times with a couple of bits. But we meet three times a year, and have a meal together, and a chat, and we're on the phone, and email each other. But we make a point of meeting three
times a year. And the only reason we haven't met now, to start beginning years, obviously, is because of the pandemic. But we've already
spoken and said. as soon as this is over we'll get together and have a meal and have a chat and yeah you know but yes uh it's fantastic for me it was a fantastic gesture from him because he didn't have to do it well that's amazing and of course uh you've re -recorded the uh modern romance classics i mean we all knew you were on there as a drummer but we've uh you've re -recorded them all which i played on some stations already and um yep uh you as lead singer yeah
i used to do backing vocals in the band Got you. Sing that, no problem, be on the clear, I'm climbing singing, no problem. Ironically, pulling me out of the front and saying, sing me a romance song that comes second nature to you, you've known them all your life. Here's a mic, singing in front of these people without a donkey around you. Oh my god, this love singing without your clothes on. You're pretty damn good at it, I must say. Oh, thank you. Andy, please could you
tell us about your book? Yes, my book, oh the book. The book at the moment is keeping me awake because I'm... Basically, it's a book based on my diaries I kept in the 80s. I'm describing now, just to give you an idea of one thing, straight away. The entry I did the other night was funny enough when we were in LA for that. Funny enough
for that, um, Japanese commercial. Once we had all finished, I had a friend in LA who came to meet me and we went off and left the band for two, three days and we went off doing our own thing. But what the hotel we were staying in, which was a hotel called the Sunset Marquis, is very famous for musicians, always has been. Everyone who's everyone has stayed there at some point. And while we were there, I was told that Adamant and his crew were in town. Remember this
is 1981, Adamant's Prime. This is 82, this is 22. So it's still Adamant, still being the Adamant that we all know. And he's in America doing stuff. And I knew that one of the crew or somebody from his entourage was in the room next door. So I thought I'd go and knock and say hello and introduce myself. You know, who knows, might be a fan member. Turns out it was the manager. So I said, hello, I'm Andy from Modern Road, man. So I was like, hi, how you been? Come in, have a coffee, whatever.
So we had a chat. And then I said, look, I'd love to come and see the show. So straight away, I was on the guest list to go and see Adamant in LA. in a couple of days' time. So, at the moment, I am, I'll tell you what I am, I am 15th of July, 1983. I'm driving 81, but I've still got a golden way to the end of 85. So I've got my work out for me, but I still have... publisher who wants it in New York, expanding on the entries
in the diary. Brilliant. Sue's got, well what it is, you told us in an email that we feel free to ask anything. I will gladly discuss my fetish for girls dressed as tomatoes. Tell us about that. Sue's got one for you. What's your one Sue? Something about plastic tablecloth designs. Andy, you got this new album, well album came out just before Christmas sort of thing, end of last year. Tell us about that and what's your
favourite track on that? Right, well the album is basically all the original Modern Romance hits have been re -recorded, you know, using obviously new sounds, new methods, being more modern. And there are also six new songs on there. So six new Modern Romance compositions all in the same vein. There's one ballad... and the other five are very Latin -y, but even the ballad's got a lot of flamenco guitar going through, so it's still tied in with, you know, very Spanishy
guitar going on. It's still tied in with all the Latin feel. It's called The Greatest Hits, because it does feature Our Greatest Hit, but also we've got six new tracks as well. And I've got musicians on there ranging from, I've got, on two tracks, I've got Mikey Craig from Culture Club playing bass, I've got a trumpet player that played with Jamiroquai playing some of the
trumpets on there. If you could pick any song out of that latest we call it modern romance album if you could pick any song out of it which one would it be? I'd love to hear that with a bit of a trumpet going. Does it come with the
dance moves? everything that I'm about and that my romance are about I would say probably rhythm is my lover because rhythm is ostensibly what started it all this thing, playing drums and everything and it is music, I love it and this song actually says that music is everything and yes for me it probably is, apart from my kids, music is everything And indeed, that is one amazing song anyway. Andy, please tell us about any websites. You've got a website. Tell us about that. Facebook
pages, everything. Well, I went on a good one. Oh, you mean my one. Sorry. Our website is www .modernhydrenromance .com. Just have a new website built for it, so if you type that in... and then click and the link to it takes you straight to the new one until we cross them over properly. Sure. First you go to there and it will say click here for the new website, you're going to the new one. Feel free, anyone who's listening, contact
me on Facebook, come and say hello. I love people just writing in and saying come and say hello.
whatever just kind of say hi and introduce yourself and tell me who you are you know and i can actually confirm that you are very uh very approachable uh and uh if someone finds andy kiriaku on facebook that is really you that's answering so uh you know hats off to you mate well done um andy we are going to play out with uh the song you selected and uh thank you very much mate and that your album is available from uh all the usual places
for download Okay, brilliant mate. Keep me updated Andy and you are welcome to come back and update us anytime you like and I mean it, just drop me an email mate, yeah? Thank you very much for coming on Chatterbox, thank you mate. You have been listening to the Chatterbox Redux podcast with Sue and Nick and our special guest today
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