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and Everybody Sells Her. That was a new version recorded in June 2019 and here we've got Andy Kiriakou, lead singer of Modern Romance. Good afternoon Andy, welcome to Radio North Sea International mate. Hello Andy, thank you, how you doing? Weird, good thank you. Hello Andy. Just a quick hello to Sue, I know Sue's there, hello Sue. Hello. And how you doing mate, you all good? Yeah I'm not too bad, I'm at home just Doing some work on the computer, getting ready for some work
stuff. It was all work -related. I was actually going to go out on the motorbike and then I thought, I won't really get far, I'll have to come back because I knew you were going to be trolling for this interview and I thought I'm not going to get far so I'm just going to go out. I'm going to be really chewed off with you because obviously I can't go out, I should have gone out today but we'll see. Well, I've never been blamed for the words of before, but thanks Andy. Right,
Andy. Modern Romance, right, take it from the beginning. When were they, was it late 70s they came about? They came out, was it Leighton Buzzards they came out of? That's right, yeah. Leighton Buzzards, punk band. Nothing to do with me, I must have been a punk band actually, because I thought they were pretty abysmal. I know they had one minor hit, I can't think what it was called now, but I do remember them. It was called Saturday Night Beneath the Plastic Palm Trees.
Thank you for that, yeah. That's probably why I can't remember it. Okay, you came along, I think, after the... Was it the first Modern Romance record after they changed the name? Was that right? No, what happened is they had the first single which was called Modern Romance. They got this deal and they did have a name for the band. So they said, what should we call the band? Oh, we'll call the band Modern Romance. So the
song was Modern Romance by Modern Romance. Nobody said that they were particularly creative at that point, but that's what they came out with. Fine. It turns out the name was great. But it came from that first song. And the first song, I have to say, was pretty dire. I mean, you know, it's awful. Then they had another song, which I actually liked. They had a second song. This is all before me joining by the way, there's a second song called Tonight, which actually
was one of my favorite songs to play. We used to play live, I used to love playing this song. There was just kind of a nice rhythm, a nice electronic pulse going through it. It was great, great song. But that didn't do anything either. And at that point is when I met them and was asked to join the band through a sequence of events. I actually had no idea that they'd had a record deal and that they had two flops. Right,
yeah. But as far as I know, I was joining this band who were rehearsing underneath the railway arches in Leighton, Leightonstone, wherever it was. I was there, went there to rehearse for a bit, because I heard them play live before I joined them, I thought I'd listen to them in case they turned out to be rubbish. As it turned out, I liked the sound, I thought I liked the
rawness. went along to play with them. And it's only during one of the rehearsals that I heard somebody mentioning, you know, somebody and, you know, the PR man and this and that, record company, and I went, excuse me, what's this? And they said, oh yeah, yeah, we've got a deal. We've had two records out already, but they were flops, and we've been told that the next record, if it's a flop again, then we're out, you know, three strikes and we're out, sort of thing. And
I said, okay, you know. And the third record was Everybody Salsa. And that's when it all began. Brilliant. But you started off life not as lead singer, did you? That's right. I started off as a drummer. And it's a gradual progression. I mean, I was a drummer. And what we did, obviously, on tour, people would sing and get guitars out
on the bars and start doing stuff. want to be singing and I'd be singing and then one of them turned around and said actually you can sing and I went well I suppose so no no you can right you're doing backing vocals from now on so I had to go and invest in a Madonna style headset mic because I'm growing and I don't want to do that it's much easier with a headset mic because you can move your head around and still be singing as opposed to staying fixed to sing into a static
mic so I did backing vocals and did that for Yonks and did a few things on the album as well. And then I became lead singer after the band broke up and went a separate ways. Ty reformed, I got back with David James and said, I want to reform the band. And he said, I don't really want to do it again because I'm into management now and so I just can't see myself going out on stage anymore, I'm not interested. So he said to me, look, you're not as qualified as anyone
else to take the name forward. If someone else wants to do it and you want to do it, you can have the name. You can do what you want with it. And then from 1999, I became Modern Romance. And I must say, reluctantly, the singer of Modern Romance, because I tried to explain to people,
it's very different. Singing from behind the drum kit, Mean I've worked in other bands in between in the industry between one way match one and two I worked in other bands and I would be behind the drunken obvious I've seen I said I want to do a cover version of this. Okay. Yeah, I'll do that Yeah, yeah sure being faced with the prospect of Going out front and singing without the drunken for survival. We have not survived the protection. I felt Absolutely. I could have
been, I might have been naked. It was the same thing. I see. Yeah, yeah. So it was terrifying to be honest, the transition, but eventually I got to the stage where I wasn't being, you know, shaking like a bag of nerves before I had, which is what's happening. And then I got to the stage where I sort of go out and do it now. I don't think about it, but it took a good year and a half before I could get over that. absolutely
frantic with fear before going on. I can't think of that many drummers that have been lead singers. The only one I can think of, and that was only on some of their singles, was probably Mickey De Lenz, and of course that's all staged on a
TV show anyway. yeah so you think of the six singles he might have had a hit sang on hit wise yeah it's all stage you know and he just zooms in for when I stand on some of her face or whatever but yeah you can't do a whole gig like it I wouldn't have thought no no no no to be honest I did try a couple of gigs I did try playing drums and I got the guitarist I said to the guitarist that you do a couple of songs I'll let you have a little set of your own I'll go back and play
drums and what happened is it left this big hole in the middle of the stage where there's no not not I want to be the focal point but there was nothing to focus on the guitarist was on the right where he has been as they're looking on stage bass players on the left and in the middle where there was a singer, there's no one now because I've got to play drums and the drummer's gone backstage and having a beer while he's waiting for me. That's just a couple of songs and it
just doesn't work. Sure. I'm looking at, I've actually got the Wikipedia page up, which I think you said, when I've had you on shows before, I think you said it's actually fairly accurate, I believe. I'm looking at some of the positions that your singles and albums got to around the place. We're looking at Adventures in Clubland, Certified Gold in Venezuela, number one there. Rolling down to the singles. Everybody sells
at number 12. I, I, I, I, Moosey number 10. Can you move number... I must admit it was very weird because we didn't even know. When we were in Thailand... We had these far -reached tours. We were going to Thailand, Hong Kong, Japan. We were all over the place. And we arrived in Thailand and we all disembarked and went to the airport. And it was screaming. There were loads of people. What the hell? What were these people? Is there a festival? Is there some kind of thing
going on? And the guy from the record from WEA in Thailand said, no, they're here for you. Wow. We thought we were going on a tour to promote the band and let them know we actually exist and we're alive sort of thing. And they said no they're here for you. We said what do you mean they're here for us? They said don't you know? You said you're number one at the moment. So you were getting off the plane and it was like the second coming. Yeah brilliant I like
that. They're putting garlands around you, and they know you're queer. I mean, don't forget, we're going to a country where we think no one knows who we are. We're going to have to prove it, you know, and prove what we can do. And we're going to play a few gigs, and people are going to start getting a few child positions or whatever. We're right for number one. People can put garlands
around us, and they know our names. And they're going, oh, Robbie, oh, Andy, you know, they thought you'd be president, and they're giving us presents, and we're going... What the hell? This is the kind of world that we don't know about. What's going on? Fantastic. Fantastic. I knew the chaps could be like that sometimes, but I didn't know the title. That's brilliant, mate. I love that. And I've honestly never heard that story from you before. That's brilliant. I like that. business
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notes of this podcast. Don't forget CBUKRDUX. Get a box! Sue. Hi Andy. Have you ever thought of entering the Eurovision? I've been in it. Ah, okay. Brilliant. Which act was that with me? I went as a percussionist and backing vocalist with an entry from Citrus. Because I'm Cypriot, and they said, we'd like to find some Cypriot musicians, and they said, someone suggested, I'd just let them on Romance in the 80s then. And they said, what about the guy who's just
let them on Romance? He's Greek, it's a game, you know. So I went, and I must admit, For me it was like a glorified, a session is you go in and you play your stuff and you leave. This was a glorified session because out of this session I got a week in Cyprus, everything paid for, and then a week in Norway, which is where it was. Sure, okay. Some of these Viking ships, they took us down a few oars and we stopped off at Bakeries and had all these cinema things and
it was like fantastic. And I thought, God, I could do one of these every few weeks, it'd be great. What about the the fateful question? Because the UK does have a pretty awful record in it the last 20 odd years would you ever is it something modern romance could do perhaps for the UK I don't know, see, because many people say, oh, yeah, you know, doing the rural region is a kiss of death, if you don't... But I don't think it is. I don't think it is. I think you open...
You know, if you... See, there are politics involved. We all... Yes, yeah, yeah. Greece gives points to Estonia and all the people around it and all the people it wants to be friends with or anyone that has argued with it, it will give points to try and... It's nothing to do with who's on stage and what they're doing, which is a shame.
But I do think that if you go up there and give a good account of yourself, you can, in our case, reignite what we had in the past and even open new doors and get new people turned onto your music and go, this is great fun, I like it, you know. Then on the other hand, what if you go and because of the voting system and because of the way that people don't vote for England, they decide not to vote even though they all
like the song. I've seen songs, I'm sure we all have, we've seen songs that are really great, that's a fantastic song and it gets virtually zero points because it's not England. I mean, we have won it five times and we've come second a quite incredible 13 times. That was in 2012 B .C. Yes, maybe it was. But then again, my reckoning on that is perhaps it's because Ireland did very well as well. Maybe it's because those two countries could sing in English and everyone else had to
sing for many years in their native tongue. A lot of people understand English from pop songs or second language. And I think it was that. And the year after we last won it, which was Katrina waves in 1997. anyone could sing in whatever language, and everyone but France generally sings in English, if you've noticed. That might be part of it. I think that is part of it, but I still think it's also part of this... I mean, it's become a global, you know, European joke.
England, zero points. You know, they laugh about it. And I don't see why, because without wishing to show my allegiance to England, because I was England born and raised... Roots England has had some fantastic songs in the past as you just mentioned But also England has produced some
of the greatest pop bands in the world. Yeah, yeah There's something darker there's something more involved here people are just decided not to give points because that I love Buxley's and I'll tell you what, if Buxley's went on there now, they'd probably get zero points because everything becomes so political. And they should probably get no points as well. What the hell?
It's a shame, but having said all that, before we can progress, have you seen, I don't normally plug movies but you just said the magic word, have you seen a film called Eurovision? No, I haven't, but I was aware it was out. We must put it on the... Yes, I'm aware of the movie, but haven't seen it. You have to watch it. It's really... I mean, everyone was telling you for years the Abba movies were good. I'll never forget it. I watched Mother Mia with Piers Croslund,
seeing it. That must be awful, you know. And I watched them recently and I thought, you know what, they're really fun. Yes. This is really good fun with a couple of really good songs in it as well. Okay. And it's just a good fun, feel good feel. So yeah, Eurovision. Everyone listen. Go and watch it. You'll have some fun with your family. That's all that's on our list then, Sue.
Yeah, well, what we're gonna do, Andy, we're gonna play High Life and then we're gonna come back for a bit more of a chat and play one of the new songs after that. So, yes, Modern Romance and High Life coming up right now. There we go, that is Modern Romance and Hi Life, and welcome back. Andy Curiaki of Modern Romance, hello again mate. Thank you, thank you, good to be here.
Thank you, brilliant. Right, we're looking at, we've basically talked about the group, how it all started and how you got it back together. Now, oh Sue, you did want to ask a song, was it about I, I, I, Moosey, what was it you wanted to ask about it? How did I I I Moosey come about? How did it get its name? Right. I've only asked this in the past a few times, 873 I think it is. You've only told me twice. Sorry. And that's
just who I'll do it again. Thank you. You should tell people why they ask the question when they ask the question. Just for the love of you Sue. Basically, the guy who was singer of the band at the time had a cousin called Michael Moss. Right. And obviously, you shortened names and it became Mossy, then it became Moosey, he was Moosey. I was coming to the gig tonight, well John's coming, blah blah, Moose is coming, right.
So it became Moosey. And then one day, shortly after everybody's house was in here, this guy said to him, I bet you I can write a song with your name in it, and it'll make a hit out of it, and it won't rubbish, you told me. He goes, yeah, I'll get Dex. So anyway, he wrote the song and the chorus was I I I I Moussy and everyone thought what does this mean? It's nothing. It's the name of a guy who drives he drove a black cab in London. It's a taxi driver's name Moussy.
That was it. But people thought it was some kind of really kind of exotic thing. Who's Moussy? You know someone in the Caribbean is it? No no he's in the East End of London driving a cab. Brilliant well thank you for that Andy. Right now you've been back together Modern Romance has been back together for quite a while now. I understand 2020 was going to be the year you were actually going to be touring everywhere, wasn't it? Some massive tour you had on, I believe?
Yeah, and we had an album ready to release and two things happened. We had an album to release in 2019 and then touring in 2020 and doing stuff. In 2019 I went to Cyprus for a short holiday.
How are you still here mate? few times and i think mate i'm just apparently i was three inches away from being dead and i was three inches in kilby but as it turned out he injured me but it didn't kill me so anyway so then i spent the majority of august in the last month of september unable to go out into the sun i can't tell you how frustrated to be in a country where the temperature is in the 30s and you'll be inside sweating your face off and you just can't go out because my
leg was all wrecked up and bandaged and you know the injury was just so bad I couldn't walk so anyway so when I came back obviously I couldn't do any of the promotion for the album I thought, oh never mind, we'll get over this and we'll sort it out. And then I thought, okay, we'll still do the gigs in January, you know, from January on, January, February, we'll start gigging,
still do that, and then look at the album. And of course, in February, before we had the first gig, Mr. Coronavirus knocked on everyone's door. And that was the end of that. So we didn't do any gigs in 2020, at all. And it's just so frustrating, not just for me. and it's frustrating on an artistic level, it's also frustrating on a financial level because obviously there's no money coming in.
But what's great is I know so many artists and so many people that are in the same boat and unfortunately by virtue of what we do for a job... We fall in between the cracks apparently and we don't qualify for self -employment at this, we don't qualify for furlough, we don't qualify for this, we don't even qualify for a free banana from a local grocery, you know what I mean? Nothing. So, we've got that frustration to put up with.
Plus the fact that, mate, I miss going out on stage and interacting with people and just doing what we do and it's got, oh my god, how long is this going to go on for? But it's going to
go on until the end of the year apparently. I mean, little gigs are happening now, little gigs, no. which actually battles me because I've got a friend who did a gig a couple of weeks ago in a pub and he said there were about 70 people there and he said they were all on top of each other and yet he goes home and he can't have more than six people at his house now but he could probably still do a gig the weekend and our gigs are not happening because obviously
our gigs are not being facetious or conceited about it. Must be you know, we've got you know, if you do one of the holiday camps talking two and a half three thousand people Yeah, and if you do the best of all you're talking 20 ,000. They're not gonna last 20 ,000 people together The one thing I do say to people is And I was looking all the way through this. I said, no matter how bad it gets financially for anybody, if you become bankrupt, if you lose this, lose
that, you can always come back from there. The one thing you can't come back from is if you get it and die. So let's just all stay home, let's all get well, stay well, and worry about the rest later. Great advice, mate. Yeah, thank you. Nick and Sue. If you're looking for the perfect gifts, either for yourself or for a fellow fan, you need to check out the Old Glory iconic music and sports store. They've been the gold
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true colours. so we're looking we can look forward to a brand new modern romance album in 2021 i assume well funny enough right now this minute when you phoned me because i was actually doing the order of the tracks on the album oh okay you're the first to hear this we only decided on friday because you know what let's put it out for christmas let's compete with all the big artists what the hell if it's a good album and people hear it it will stand up for itself
and they go oh he's good they'll go and buy it i don't need to worry about competing with cliffridge putting out his christmas album of the year or you know the charandran or wet wet wet or anywhere else they will do what they're going to do and then we just said you know let's just put it out and see what happens have it out because um i was talking to you know one of the guys is putting it out for me and he said look after the year we've had we being the world in general,
you know, in the UK, he said, people need a bit of fun. He said, you know, all these tunes that you've re -recorded, everybody sells some moosey besties of their lives. He said, people want some fun. He said, put it out for Christmas and let people hear it and have some fun and dance
around with it. because people need to be lifted after this awful year and that's what made me decide you know what maybe it's got a point so we've decided to go for it and put it out at Christmas that's actually a good move actually and also you have been working very hard you know burrowing away making contact with people like myself originally you contacted me not the other way around and it's found your little team the guy that contacted everyone and offered you
for quite some time ago offered you for an interview and of course you've now done two of my stations now and that you know it's been very good this shutdown probably to the extent that you have spoken to lots of radio people and it's so easy to come back to me now say oh Nick can we have a little chat about the Christmas thing next whenever when you've got a gap and you go and not just me but a lot of people I think you know you've done really brilliantly there where some
people have just sort of hidden away written their song about the lockdown which i've heard must have heard 10 million songs about the lockdown by now and you're bringing out this jolly thing and i think that will get you more more radio spots as well adi i really do yeah well i'll do a happy modern romance one it might work Right in a lockdown, so I don't think you've, you know, some of the people have done it and I think, what the hell, you know, it's a subject that
we've all, we're all bored of the words lockdown and virus and pandemic and so on. Let it end soon. I mean, it will end when it ends, but we, I don't really want to be connoting it and saying, you know, let's talk about virus and pandemics and lockdown. I think you've all had enough.
But I have to say, funnily enough, Last week I was talking to a friend of mine, a lot of techs, this is for all football fans by the way, I was talking to my techs because I'm an Arsenal fan, he's a Spurs fan, arch -rivers as you know, right? And I was taking the mickey because obviously we just won our first game of the season last weekend, we've recently won the charity shield, we've won the FA Cup, and I said to him, nothing
in your trophy cabinet am I? And he was writing back to you recently and then he said, do you know what? Because you know Arsenal were originally a South London club? Yes, Woolwich Arsenal, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then we moved to North London in 1913, right? And they said, no, you're just a bunch of pikeys anyway. Oh, OK. It's actually, you're just a bunch of pikeys. Basically moved like a bunch of gypsies from South London to North London and took their place, sort of thing.
So I wrote back a comment, and then I said, do you know what? That's actually a good title for a song. So I had... I wrote, rewrote, there and then, I rewrote the lyrics of I, I, I, I, Moosing, can't really be enough. I used the whole lyrics, everything, the chorus, the actual verses, everything, all to do with football, and primarily spurs. Okay. What's it called now? Well, the thing is, I'm going to tell you after we finish this. Oh,
okay. But, anyway, I... Rewrote the lyrics and then what I did is I came to the laptop put the backing track on and sang it into my phone so the phone's got me singing with the backing track and I sent it to my friend and I said, yeah, this is what I'm thinking you got. Even though he's an Ardent Spurs fan, he was in hysterics. And he said, great, how did you write it that quickly? And I said, well, that's what's wrong. I write songs, that's what you do. You take it
pretty good, how did you? build his extension so quickly it'll take me four weeks he's done it in two days that's his job that's what he does um and i've actually just in the process now of writing an email it's on my screen now i'm writing an email to accompany it because when i send it to people i want them to realize i've done this banter as a joke i don't want anyone else to sit there going oh yes but you know he's used this word there and this here
however i know the joke it's fun it's people having a laugh you know i suppose fans can laugh about it and Arsenal fans obviously, and other football fans. I just don't want someone jumping at some doobler going, oh he's used this word there, you know, it's in bad taste. Don't get James who's in the chat room. He's the RNI whiz kid with computers and studios We don't upset him too much because we had as you know, you were going to come on a few Was it three weeks
ago? So we had a studio meltdown. He's the one that saved us because there was a meltdown as well Yeah, we look forward to that one though Andy definitely also I'm hoping you're gonna turn but you can give us that new sort of like Christmas time when you tell us about what you're bringing out there and hope you're you know, nice nicer a nice new tour for 2021 maybe yeah
where abouts are you guys based anyway? in Hastings East Sussex 30 odd miles from Brighton right okay um Kent yeah we have nine miles to the Kent border yeah well okay I've got a gig in Kent next year keep us posted let's rock Kent yes I can't remember the actual date, but if you look it up, Nets Rock Kent, you'll see loads of 80s people, Nick Kershaw, I think, and Tony Hackley and a whole bunch of other people from the 80s, and I will be there doing that one.
Sounds good. Sounds good, mate. Sounds good. Before we... Sue, you want to say something, sorry? We've got to look it up and go. Yes, we will. I was just saying that. Right. Before you go, Andy, could you tell us about any websites or Facebook pages and groups that Modern Romance or you have, please? And then we've got our website,
which is www .modern -romance .com. Then we've got my Facebook page, which people, I invite people all the time, just come and say hello, and at the end of the day, people are sitting and going, it's my Facebook page. Yes, it's there for me to interact with people from the public who like our stuff, who want to come and say hi. So if you do want to come in, don't feel, oh, you know, you're imposing. No, come and say hi. Introduce yourself, say hi, I'm saying so.
And yeah, I mean I might not be able to chat to you every day, but I will always say hi to people and if they're coming to a gig and they let me know I'm coming to your gig at such and such place I'll try and find a way to get out from backstage and come and actually say hi to them and meet them in person. Oh lovely mate, that's brilliant. That's absolutely fantastic.
Yeah, excellent. Nice, because if you've got people that chat to you and comment on your stuff, it's actually nice to meet them, put a face to their name, and then you know them after that. It's not just a person online. You actually know them. I mean, I've had some great things happen in the past. I've met some girls that came to a gig, and I can't remember what happened, but I think they tried to get tickets for a gig and
were let down or whatever. And I said, I'll tell you what, I'll put you on the guest list for our gig in this place. And they were so grateful and it was in sort of Devon somewhere. They bought me a bag of Cornish pasties that were made from the best Cornish pasties shop in Cornwall. They said, yeah, they're all fresh and they're all
warm. Andy, thank you very much for spending so much of your Sunday afternoon with us and do keep in touch and, you know, do just send me the press releases like you do and hopefully we'll have a chat. Well, still Wonderstations you haven't been on yet, but I'd like to have a chat, you know, when things are coming out at Christmas, if you don't mind, mate, that'd
be brilliant. Well, how are you black coffee cuz I'm more of a black coffee man, but that's okay As long as it's strong, that's fine mate, yeah Brilliant Andy so from Sue myself, thank you very much and do take care of yourself for every success, you know in the very near future Now we're gonna play out with one of your newer songs and in Here we are Modern Romance and Michica Latina. Hope I've done that right. And Andy thank you very much and speak to you soon mate. Thank
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