Andi Jane (2nd interview)

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Jane. We're Chatterbox giving you all you need to know about musical entertainment Oh yeah Chatterbox, the best interviews with Nick and Sue Chatterbox, the best news and reviews for you all Chatterbox! Angie, welcome back to Chatterbox. How are you? Hello, I'm great. Thank you so much for having me back on. You're welcome. Well, you're welcome. When we spoke last time when you came on, I think you'd had an EP or something. You were mentioned. You mentioned you were working on an album. So

this is it. It's called The Ground is Changing. and we've got nine tracks on it. So remind me, I can't remember without looking up how long ago it was when you were last on. How long was this album in the planning of these nine tracks? How long did it actually take from start to end? It has been almost two years. It was March 2024 when I went into the studio with a plan to record a six song EP and I came out with 14 songs. And so now they're on the album. I already got five

more ready to go for the next one. Ah, wonderful, wonderful. Yeah. Now I've heard them all and I do like some of that honky -tonk type lively stuff but let's say how would you describe the album to somebody that's never heard you? Just say you were out and about, how would you describe it? If they said oh what sort of stuff you got on your album, you know? How would you describe it to someone? I would say it's a sassy Americana

bluegrass blend. I like that. Yeah. Definitely on the upbeat side, you know, it centers around a love story. But yeah, I mean, it's not traditional bluegrass by any means. And I realized I had to start correcting myself when I would say bluegrass, because it does use a lot of bluegrass instrumentation. There's mandolin, there's banjo, guitar, upright bass, fiddle. But it really, it definitely does not fall in the traditional world whatsoever.

I personally felt there's there's more than one more than one well I'm not gonna say genre more than one style on there we say perhaps so there's nothing wrong with that at all but yeah but of course I would know your voice even if somebody played me say to five tracks which I've not had the pleasure of hearing the five that you're going to put on the next album. If somebody blindfolded me and played me a hundred tracks, I would be able to name you all five as being Andy Jane

songs. Yeah, I would know. Good. I really would. We've got no problems with the vocals now. I know Andy Jane's voice and it's unique. But I really would. I really would. So there we go. Awesome. Right. Well, let's start going through

this album. I know we've got one. uh singles already been released let's talk about the single first then we go through the album so which one's actually the single fly away was the single it came out in january yeah and that one is uh you know that one i picked it because it's it's the most traditional bluegrass and instrumentation there's actually no drums on that one but it just starts strong with acapella vocals uh it's really bouncy it's fun It's super upbeat and

I feel like it really declares who I am and that's why I chose that one as the single. Okay, so that's track one anyway. Track two, we've got Fool. Tell us a bit about that. Yeah, so Fool, that one's kind of the ballad. So that one's a little more down tempo. The premise of this song is, so this love story that the album is sort of centered around, was a person who was really, you know, not particularly healthy for me, great for my art. I love the songs that I

wrote from this relationship. But this person was somebody who would always promise the world and just never deliver. You know, even saying I want to stop doing this and then just never wanted to actually stop doing that. Just it was all empty promises. And the hook on that is it's almost like you wished I was a fool. Like, you want me to believe you, which means you want to be with a fool, which is just kind of crazy to me. And I actually showed it to him. I showed

him this song that I had written about him. And he said to me after listening to it, and at the end of the song, it's, yeah, you almost, it's almost like you wished I was a fool. And I said that three times, repeated it. And he said to me, the first thing was, you know, you keep saying it's almost like you wished I was a fool, but really aren't you the fool? And I was like, oh, damn. So I changed the last lyric to, it's almost like, I really am a fool. Because he was right.

Yeah. I was thinking the song could, the song with the title fool could go to either party, couldn't it? So it could bounce back in his direction. Right. This could keep bouncing around this one. At the moment it's gone back to him, so there you go. Well, at least he knew. I'm sure we talked about this before, happy with somebody. The Your So Vain moment where Warren Beatty claims it's about him. This is about this guy, isn't it? He doesn't think, he knows, that's even better.

Yep, exactly. I think he agreed. Fantastic, even better. Track three, we've got Teardrop Island. Yeah, Teardrop Island. That one was actually written with this person that I was in this relationship

with. And that one was pretty cool. We were at a music festival and I started telling him the story of this little island in the creek where I grew up as a kid that my best friends and I would go down there shaped like a teardrop and we would, it was tiny, but we would try to fit three of us on this little island because an island is so special to a child, you know. And I went back as an adult and I was going to show

my nieces this little teardrop island. I was like, you guys want to come see teardrop island? And we get down there and it's gone. It has washed away as islands do in running creeks. And I was telling this story to this fella and he got out a notebook and he started writing. And I was like, oh, you have inspiration. I'll shush up and I'll let you write it. And he's like, no, no, keep going. And so I kept talking and he started writing and he started writing lyrics.

And when we got back home from that festival, we sat down and we built that song and a lot of its imagery from my childhood. But really, it is the premise of the album because it is about how the ground is always changing and.

You can appreciate the way things used to be, but don't get too attached to them because it's gonna grow, it's gonna evolve, the trees are gonna fall, the meadows are gonna burn, the islands are gonna wash away, and you have to figure out where you belong in that growing, evolving, and changing world. We were aware of Teardrop Island before, weren't we? Yeah, I thought so. Didn't it come from, was it Peacock Farm, was it Peacock Farm EP, or something rather? Yeah, that was

on the live studio EP. I know that we, yeah. I don't want to say anything just in case I was wrong, but yeah. Yeah, you're right. That one

was just with a trio. um you know it's just a live a live take so i really wanted to do the song justice and give it the full um yeah the full studio experience well that'd be the first time we played the studio version so there you go so yes sorted uh okay track number four uh the one you're crying over yeah that's a barn burner you guys great title yes thank you um yeah this one could be a little confusing if you don't really buckle in and listen to the

lyrics because it's about two different people okay so yeah the story was uh it was this is really the story that began all the stories in in this particular love tale because i was heartbroken over somebody that was just supposed to be a little casual fling and uh and he just disappeared. And I was sad. And I ran to this best friend of mine for comfort. And in that moment, I realized that he was the one that I really loved. I did not love the one that I was actually crying over.

And so it was a, oh, wow, holy shit moment. Oh, can I say that? Sorry. or whatever time in the evening, you can have the F word on Radio 2 on the BBC. Wow. Different times as to what time the words can come on. But you're fine on that. That could be. We're in the clear. That'd be two o 'clock in the afternoon. You'd be all right. That's a mild one, isn't it? So you certificate? Yeah. General. But yeah, it's a G certificate in America. Yeah. Yeah. Cool. A thousand little

lies. And you've heard this one as well. I've heard all the track. I have heard them all myself. Sue hasn't. She likes them to be a surprise for when the show goes out or if we put them on hit or miss. So she's not heard them. I've heard the whole album though. Sure. Well, this one was also one that I did live in the studio. So that came out on the Peacock Farm EP as well. Just as, well actually that one was a five piece version, but I wanted to once again do the whole

production for that. So yeah, this one was kind of an interesting story. I've always been really fascinated with con artists. I dated somebody who lost his entire life savings and the life savings of his family and his partner because he was conned by a con man. And I'm like, whoa. And he told me the story and I'm like, wow, like to put so much risk into like a person, that person has to be so genuine. They have to sell

it so well. They have to be such a good liar in order to hook you in for that much money. And then I just started thinking about what if I were that con woman, not me particularly, but like putting myself in the position of that person that you used all of the good things about yourself, all of your charisma, all of your ability to love and draw people in, in order to take from them. And that's where the story of Thousand

Little Lies went. Cool. That's an interesting one, so a little bit different to being ripped off by a Ponzi scheme then, this is big time and a personal. Big time, yeah. So could this, do you think, I mean I listen to it again with an open mind now. I've heard that from you, but do you think somebody listening at home, do you think that could open up to meaning something different to different people? Like there could

be some one of these. Oh, yeah. It's been a victim of being a love cheat and things like that and had lost all the money in that way. Somebody we say we won't typecast anybody, but we say they probably come from an African call center. That's not what's being taken in by something like that. We say, yeah, one of these love cheats, something like that. It could be in a relationship where the person doesn't exist or got a double

family, even. Exactly. Yeah, I mean, it definitely what it's really embodying is that inner struggle when you are lying, when you're actively lying and you have to deal with it. It's, you know, you've got the ghosts all buttoned down. Don't look them in the eye. Don't let them out. I know how you try and try. Still, they keep you up at night. Those thousand little lies. So, I mean, anything. anything that you're lying about. I was just thinking of a compliment, but yeah.

I just love the titles of the songs. They're brilliant. How about you, Bill? Thank you. It takes two to tangle And two to present a radio show So here's Nick and Sue Your musical duo This is Nick and Sue with Chatterbox, giving you all you need to know about musical entertainment. Chatterbox! Chatterbox! Chatterbox! Chatterbox! Chatterbox! Chatterbox! Chatterbox! What about two buildings? Yeah. It's all buildings! So that

one's the cover on the album. Not a super well -known cover, but it seemed really appropriate for me. It's a John Hartford cover I I only started listening to John Hartford when I moved to Nashville.

I learned about him and He's much like John Prine and then he's like playful and he's funny But he's still very poignant and very creative and very smart in his songwriting in this particular song is about Getting a job and going to work in tall buildings and missing out on all the beautiful things in life because you just got to get into the grind. And I thought it was it was a good one to include on the album because I had to get a job in order to afford to record

this record. So I had to go to work in tall buildings, even though I'm only on the second floor. Okay, track seven, we've got running out of time. Yeah, this is the fun one. This is my favorite. My favorite rowdy one on the record. I just, man, I tell you what, I feel like I am always running out of time. I have this tendency towards being like stressed. And when I have something on my list, instead of thinking, okay, I'm gonna do that this week. my mind goes to you should have

already had it done. So I just get this idea that I'm always running out of time. And that hook came to me. And the hook is, why do I always feel like I'm running out of time? Instead of going step by step, I feel like I ought to be flying. Oh, why do I always feel like I'm running

out of time? So I had that hook and I had it for like six months and I kept coming back to it and I kept singing it and I was like one of these days I'm gonna write a really good song around this and I brought it to a couple people I was like maybe we could co -write it because I felt like I was stuck and then one day it just like it came to me like that and it was just bouncy and fun and I played it for a couple people what I had so far and they're like it really

kind of reminds me of Dolly's 9 to 5. And I'm like, oh, okay. So then I, I had to call out Dolly in the bridge. So, so she gets a little shout out in the bridge of the song, but it's a fun one. It's a fast one. It's silly. This edition of the Chatterbox Redux podcast is brought to you in association with the Old Glory iconic

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and the Bruisers is joining me on that one. And it is inspired by John Primes In Spite of Ourselves, which also gets a call out in the song. And it's just about this couple that may be a little insufferable in their own ways and how they still stick together and they still love each other. But they don't really have very many redeeming qualities, I would say. I think John Prine gave his characters a few more redeeming qualities. This was definitely a clashy part of our relationship that I wrote

this song. Wonderful. And then we have track nine, Endless Mornings. Yeah, this one's actually low -key my favorite song on the record. It's got beautiful three -part harmonies. It's got a great key change in it. And this is just how it felt to be with somebody who couldn't really see outside of their own perspective, you know, had some narcissistic tendencies. And the title, Endless Mornings, is what I would always experience.

So we would have a fight the night before. And the next day I would wake up and I would just want to rectify the situation. I would want to connect. I would want to talk it out. I would want to come to some sort of peace. And he would still be sleeping and his phone would be dead until deep into the afternoon or maybe evening. And so I'm just sitting here in this unsettled state. all morning. And the only thing that I could do in these situations was write songs.

It was the only thing that gave me peace. It's the I mean, as songwriters, that's our therapy. So they were my they were my endless mornings. And that's, yeah, that's how I wrote that one. Sure, sure. When did the album come out? It's literally just come out, just coming out. Good day! It is today! February 13th, Friday the 13th, the day before that. I was going to say Friday the 13th, but wasn't quite sure. You've got the

date and you're better, couldn't you? But yeah, obviously it's going to take a week or two to get out. So yeah, like that. I'm going to ask how you got that lovely pose, sat by that tree. That is so beautiful. Andy's a perfectionist, dear. I think there's a story behind it. Yeah, there is. So I actually had a photo shoot in my living room that has a lot of cool plants and mirrors and curtains and things. And we had intended to get the cover that day and I just

wasn't. I wasn't sold on any of them. What I really wanted is I wanted vines growing up from the ground and overtaking me. And we tried doing some viney things with my plants in my living room and nothing really worked. And so I called up my friend Eli Meltzer. His little photo company is called Nash Nouveau. And I was like, I need to do this outside. It was the middle of winter. This was like in December, I believe. And there was a day that was going to be 55. And we're

like, let's get it. Let's go. And we went out there and we did. You say perfectionist, like not just me, but he was too. The sun had gone down. He brought the spotlight out. And I'm like, I feel like we probably have it. And he's like, I am not going to stop taking pictures until I know for sure that we have it. And sure enough, the ones that we liked and the one that ended up on the cover was from after the sun went down.

We had the spotlight that adds a little bit of a yellow glow and my washboard's sitting there. I was going to ask what that was. I wasn't quite sure if it was a washboard. Yeah, yeah, it's the washboard that I play on the album. I love how the skirt lays when you sat there. It's just perfect. I'm glad you mentioned a washboard because that's why I don't always say something. Without my glasses on I thought that was something they

put in the bee thing. I knew it was a washboard because I've seen it before but I don't know the way I've seen it. So if I'm not too sure I just shut up it's a good job I did then. All right we've got to laugh out of it but it's a good job I didn't in all honesty just ask a serious question and then no. It's better we have the laughs now. That is beautiful. Thank you. Andy J's new album released Friday 13th of February. It's called The Ground is Changing. Fantastic.

Okay, Andy, what is this? What's next? You've got five songs to the next one. So is it the album next? Is it the gigging all the time? What are we going to be? Right. We have a chat in six months time. What would you like to be? Yeah. What would you like to be? Well. Yeah, so I'm trying to decide if I just put those five songs out. They're almost done. I have just vocals left to do on one of them. They're so almost done, ready to mix and master. So part of me

just wants to put those out as an EP. And then the other part of me wants to just record four, maybe five more songs and put out a whole nother album. And then that would have to be next year. But if I go the EP route, I'll put it out this year. Let's just get them out and then start

recording the next. It takes two to tangle And two to present a radio show So here's Nick and Sue Your musical duo This is Nick and Sue with Cheddar Box Giving you all you need to know about musical entertainment Cheddar Box Cheddar Box Cheddar Box Cheddar Box I've got to say one thing and you're probably aware like with Hit and Miss and things that the British audience can be not knockin' them all because I mean if you came and did some concerts here you'd pack out venues

and we'd love to see you as well but they're very funny about covers very funny about songs being done as covers and I thought that your version of Crazy it should have won won the bloody season, let alone struggled. What an amazing cover. How exciting it was. I love it. But in the UK, don't say anything like Noel Sparkle. I think that's the point of doing the cover, but they don't quite get it. Some covers could be better. Yeah, so, but concert wise, I think

it'd be amazing, wouldn't it? But we're certainly going to be pushing your tracks. They will all get played at some point or another on our live shows. But I just wanted to say, Crazy was amazing. Oh, thank you. Glad you like it. No, it just was. It was the excitement of standing so different as well. And so far. And so fast. Right. I can't remember the lead singer from Null Sparkly now, but I hope he's heard it. And I really hope he has heard it because it's such a great different

take. It's almost because it's such a different take. I think it's really respectful to it. You know, it's so different. And I hope he's heard it and I hope he likes it. There's no reason why he wouldn't. Yeah. I mean, that's one thing I love about Bluegrass is we often take songs and we cover them faster. And, and that's, I mean, that's one of it. One of my favorite things about going to bluegrass show is here and how they cover songs that I love and make them sound

completely different. Yeah. But don't you think that's the idea of covering a song? There was absolutely no point making it sound the same, is it? You might as well just remaster it and re -release it. Right, exactly. It's like Sam Ryder, didn't he? He did Bohemian Rhapsody. I can't say that word. It's actually better than the original. That's my opinion. It's a matter of opinion, but he's the one person that's actually pulled off a cover of Bohemian Rhapsody and made

it sound good. It's a hard one, isn't it? That's a tough one. How many people have we heard kill it? I wouldn't want to attempt it. I hate when somebody picks that on karaoke night, I will tell you what. I'm like, this is about to be a drunken mess for seven and a half minutes. I don't know. Squeaking like a mouse on the Galileo bit. Yeah, I mean, but sometimes they're at least very funny about it. But never does it sound good, not one time. Nick has done the squeaky

part singing Galileo. I've done all sorts, but not in karaoke. Sorry, what was that? Oh, no, that's great. I would love to hear it sometime. It's only when he's heard the song saying he sings along with it and it's just, yeah. Well, I have to do my own backing. I know. We won't go into backing. No, we won't go that far. It's another story. It's another story. He's also done backhoe vocals for Ray Dorsett, Mungo and Jerry in the summertime. Yeah, that was something

else. That's for a joke, darling. We interviewed him and I said to him, could you sing a couple of the song? And he did. It's as long as you

come and do the backing vocals. I'm sure you know Mungo Jerry in the summertime, massive hit in the early 70s but you know it's a classic and of course yeah of course by the time I done it I was going this bloke was just singing along to it I mean it did do very well in the USA but I think you've got I think it was number one in the UK for six weeks it was the mega hit and he just said well I don't know if that was the best or worst backing I've ever had but Yeah,

you know. Oh, that's awesome. Yeah. So, I mean, I think we must pay homage at this moment to Chris Spear, of course, because without Chris Spear we would never have met you. And I'm glad that Pals Cross because we've got nothing like you in the UK and we don't want anything like you because we've got you. So I'm certainly grateful to him for that. Yes, absolutely love Chris.

He's got great taste in music. I have to say everybody that I've heard that he's been pushing out just really great, you know, artists that, you know, we're smaller artists. So we really need the support of people like Chris, like you guys. It really means the world that you guys lift us up. and put our music out there, so thank you and thanks to Chris. It means the world to us for you to come on and let us interview you. Yeah, it's a shop window for them, isn't it?

But it's like with Hit or Miss or The Chatterbox Show, now we do the records as well, we say. So we've got your songs in your interview. We have to at least two interviews a week But there's all the time before in between the interviews and they were now playing songs a lot of Chris artists Chris's artists get in there So some of your tracks from the album would be getting in there on other weeks. So awesome That's a

good shop window as well. So basically it's a shop window, but we always say like with hit or miss or Whatever the show maybe we just say that the the the stars are the artists of course it's not nick and sue we put it together we presented but hit me or chatterbox the stars are the guests we're not stars yeah we don't we don't do that no we're presenters but we're not like well famous you guys are and that's how it is that's what the show's about yeah You know, we have show

as a live show on a Thursday. I have one on a Saturday We talk about what we do on those shows That's our time, but we don't write. Yes, it's you guys. So yeah, that's what it's about Well, I love the hit or miss show I love the I love the chat room So if you if you're listening now and you haven't been in the chat room You should definitely join the community really cool people it support and love great music. Thank you And anything for Andy, because we've got to do her

social media and let her go. No, I've got nothing at the moment. Well, you'll have to be messaging her otherwise, because this is going to finish in a minute. I know that. It's not waffing. Chatterbox. Yes, dear. Andy, social media, how can people that are listening, especially for the first time, how can they take a look at you? Where can they find out more about you? What social media have you got? Sure. Well, the most important thing to know is I'm Andy with an I. So A -N

-D -I -J -A -N -E. Music is most of my social media. That's Instagram, that's TikTok, Facebook. If you just want to go to my website, I've got links to everything. So andyjane .com, A -N -D -I -J -A -N -E .com. And you can find videos, my YouTube, I always put up new videos all the time. So you can get songs beyond what's on Spotify. And I do post a lot on TikTok and Instagram. So try to keep it fun, try to keep it interesting. And did you mention YouTube? You did mention

YouTube, because I know that. Yes. Definitely seen some of your videos on that. Yeah, definitely have. So yeah, brilliant. Well, Andy, it's been

great catching up with you. and uh absolutely next time yeah we wish you every success with with your album the ground is changing and as Sue says we look forward to the next time Adi -Jay it's been great and uh looking forward to the next time already and thank you so much for coming back on to chat with us yeah we'll do the best to luck with your music correct absolutely thank you so much Nick and Sue -Elle it was great to chat with you cheers Adi bye bye now okay

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