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The Cleveland Cavaliers fought all night long, but in the end they suffered one of their most heartbreaking losses of the last few years. Joining me today to break this game down is my co host, Carter Rodriguez. Carter, Hey, nobody bad? Yeah, Yeah, Yeah. That hurts, man, Like that's that's one of those games that you know, we when we talk about seasons, when we look back, you know on the good times that we have in certain years,
that's one of those kicks that really really hurts. And I really thought that the Cavs came out and gave an effort to be proud of. For the majority of this night, I thought they left it all on the floor. Donovan, you know, basically gave everything that he had physically. I thought guys that struggled in Game one came out with tremendous effort in comparison to where they were at defensively. It seemed like they had a real opportunity to tie
this series up at one one. You get a couple of days off, you're going to Indiana and basically having a mentality of hey, we just got to get one of these two games in Indy. Then you know it's a best of three and we have home court once again. But the Cavs now have more of an uphill climb as a result of a second chance opportunity by Tyrese Haliburn and the game winning shots that he delivered.
Yeah, I mean you have to call what is to collapse? They were up seven with like, you know, forty five seconds left or something like that, and and you knew, you know, if you're if you're if you've watched enough basketball, you know when a team is out of gas, when they have nothing left and they are playing the clock more than they're playing their opposition. You know, ah, the
inbounds plays where guys weren't even really cutting. They were just kind of standing there, kind of shemy in their shoulders and holding their hands up, you know, you know, dead legs, lack of ability to shake a Pacers team that has done this twice in the playoffs. Now you through gritted teeth. You have to give them credit for how physical and tough they were. Yep. And you know they made every play and you know, before Halliburton shot that shot, I knew the game was over. You know.
It was just one of those kind of endings that felt preordained. You know.
I literally knew that it was going in because I got a notification on my phone, which just I hate that with delays. Yeah, but I thought once they got to seven, I was like, I just don't know if they've got this.
And that's not it's not to make an excuse, you know, or to say like you know, like you know when you say dead legs, like yeah, I mean and he was playing hard too. Yep, they didn't, you know, they didn't.
It's not like you know, you look at the minutes totals on either side of the floor and you saw one team with you know, it's not like a Knicks box score where you saw five guys with forty six minutes and the other team all in the mid thirties, and you go, yeah, I get why the Knicks love ran out of gas like some extent like Indy game and stole there, Yeah, stole their chain, yeah, to end
the game. And uh, it's uh, it's a freaking killer, you know, I feel like right now, you know, And it's interesting because in this game, it felt like the Cavs were fighting a losing fight against time, and in
this series they're fighting a losing fight against time. Because what it's more important to have won this game two help extend the competitive portion of the series more than it's important just to just for whatever sliver of a chance that Darius and Evan and deonn you know, you buy him a couple of days extra of healing and recovery. And now you know, if Darius wasn't quite ready to go, you got to be like, well, I guess just try
it in game three. You know, like if you can even do that, you know, you like.
This one, then you're in a position that, Okay, if you're not able to go into game four, Like, you really just have to get the one in Indy right, And now you're in a position where you got to get both right, and how do you eat an elephant one bite at a time, right, Like you're going to have to kind of compartmentalize and say, all right, we got to go out and find a way to take game three.
You take game three.
Once again, you're gonna I can't even say you have to get greedy because you're in do it or die time. You only have one loss to play with here. But you have to have that kind of mentality. And the frustrating thing is I agree with Kenny Atkinson's assessment postgame. I thought that for the majority of this game, they did outplay India. He said his one regret that he had was that he shot in the rotation in the second half. He felt that, you know, I didn't play enough, guys.
We ran out of gas. Not only on those inbounds where you weren't creating separation, the same thing was happening in the half court. And you know, the end of the game got extended a lot with reviews, with free throws things like that. Indiana was definitely making a point the entire night that anytime they were going to foul, they were going to make sure that you know it's going to be a foul, right, Like Aaron Nesmith is putting his arm around guy's necks and he's bringing them to the ground.
There is his leg on on the top of Donovan's neck on one particular possession.
Like they're finishing their checks right like that. That's basically the way that they are playing throughout the night. I thought the Cavs did a really good job of responding
that to that for the most part. But you're right, like, you got to find a way to get the ball in right you're up seven seconds, or you're up seven points with fifty eight seconds in the bone and you don't get another point, you at least have to find a way to get the ball in bounds and get a trip to the free throw line because they're going to be intentionally fouling and they weren't able to do that.
You absolutely have to, you know, I think there's going to be if I had to guess, there's going to be things that we're going to find very frustrating tomorrow. In the last two minute report, when Pascal Siakam was shooting his free throw. As the ball was leaving his hands, Aaron Nee Smith is already at the free throw line, Like, that's probably going to be something that's pointed out, not something that they could review to be fair when they
reviewed that play. That's not a reviewable part of that play. And then I think the same thing is going to happen for Halliburn, who was in the middle of the key before the ball touched the rim. You're not allowed to do that. I think both of those lane violations are going to be called. But you shouldn't have been in that position where you could have got burned by those things. And that's you know, it's a frustrating reality.
It's you know, the beauty of basketball, and it's also the pain of basketball that what you do for forty seven minut is a large part of the story. But you got to play a complete forty eight and unfortunately, you know, a combination of running out of gas, the mistakes that come as a result of that and not finding a way to to you know, get the ball in bounds and get that trip to the free throw line ultimately cost them.
Yeah, and I think the thing that's really crushing is the cost of you know, you know what they spent both in terms of their you know, their physical outputs, but even just in terms of what they spent in terms of the performances they got. You know, donn you know, I just don't know if you can count on that kind of Donovan performance. Again, you know, he was cramping up, he had nothing left. He was exerting so much energy
every every single second he was on the floor. I know he didn't have a crazy high minutes game, but you know, that level of offensive output is nuts. And like I was sitting watching it and thinking, this isn't this isn't the Orlando series from last year where he drops fifty in the Cavs don't top one hundred points.
And you know, I think both you and I left that game going that can't be the plan, Like that level of ball dominance can't be the plan because because there's not enough, you know, there's not enough going on elsewhere. And like maybe that was a little bit the case, but like Cavs had a one to twenty five point six offensive rating with Donovan on the floor in this game, like he did elevate their offense. You know, this was
not just sponging possessions because there wasn't anyone else. He really was magnificent tonight, and yeah, I really sorry for him to have a game like that wasted.
Yeah, And what have we talked about so many times? Right, when you talk about an offensive possession, if the ball swings to you and you're open and you don't take the shot, you are, you know, you're hurting the rest of the offense. You're likely not getting a good shot in that possession. It felt like with Donovan, you know, the opportunities he had to go downhill. If he's not taking the shot, if he's not you know, getting to the rim, if he's not getting to the free throw line.
That was the best look on those possessions. The Cavs had a really you know, a lot of success getting into the paint, getting downhill. I think that was one of the most encouraging things of this game. And honestly, the one consistent thing that they've had against Indiana so far is they've managed to get into the paint.
Right.
We saw a lot of guard to guard screening, Isaac Ocorrow in particular, getting tied Haliburn involved. Good things were coming as a result of that. When three point opportunities opened up, Donovan was finding the right guys. It's just on the majority of these plays, the best possible option was him going up and finishing. But you know, as he said, that took a physical toll he I think this is a playoff career high for him for free throw attempts. Every single one of those attempts was earned.
Like he you know, he's hitting the ground, He's he's being tackled by pacers right like they're making him feel it every single time. It's you know, I look at this game and when we were talking last night with Lima, a lot of what we wanted to see and a lot of why I felt the Cavs could come out and win this game was what we saw. I've you know, Donovan Mitchell stepping up as the best player. You still
have Jared Allen, who's an All Star caliber guy. He goes for a playoff career high in terms of points. I thought he had a very strong game. Max Strus stepped up in the ways that you want to see. Dean Wade I thought stepped up with the hustle plays and the defense offense wasn't really there for him tonight.
But I was.
Happy with his overall effort. Max Strus and Sam Merrill two guys that we identified as not playing well at the point of attack. Defensively, I thought both of them stepped up in terms of their intensity and their physicality on the defensive end. They got the contributions we wanted to see. They had a real chance to win this game.
It's just so deflating.
And you know, this is the kind of stuff when we preview a playoff series and we say I can see this going five or six games. This is the type of outcome that you know typically extends the series where you say, you know, you might have one where things just don't go your way. Uh, you have a weird finish. Some of it might be your fault, some
of it might be bad luck. But when you're in this situation, it has the potential to do the opposite, right because now Indiana has won two games in Cleveland and you're facing a real uphill climb to to you know, go on the road and extend this series.
Yeah, I mean this could be over and four that Indi is a really really good home team. They feel like they've got this series in the bag. They absorbed the uh, the the the Desperation game from Cleveland and h Gaves are in real trouble. You know, the fact that none of the three injured Cavaliers were able to go through shoot around today very very scary. Yeah.
It was reports that Darius was putting in work on the treadmill trying to you know, do some interval training and stuff like that. Obviously it didn't respond well enough for him to even go out and do the pregame shoot around, right. You know, Chris Fiedor was mentioning through the day he the sense he got talking to Darius was you know, go and give it a try. That's you know, that's really discouraging that. Like these guys who are all want to play, right, DeAndre said after the game, Hey,
I'm going to play for for game two. Wasn't physically able to write like you can have the intentions you're going to want to go out there and prove yourself. You know, seeing the Beat reporters talking about their conversations with Evan Mobley and how dejected he was struggling, you know, to put weight on his foot, like this is this is serious stuff, man, And I think it goes back to what you were saying before about how this was an opportunity to extend the series and give by them
a little bit more time. I don't know what the likelihood of these guys being able to return in the series is. And like, from a fan standpoint, I'm sitting here, I'm bitter, Like I'm feeling bitter. I'm frustrated by that. Like you know, I do my best to not let that impact my analysis, but it hurts. Man, Like everything you did everything right this season, right like, you did everything to manage minutes, did everything you could to not be in this position, it looked like you weren't in
this position. And you know, two bad landings, or really three bad landings, because because Darius appeared, I think he landed on a fan court side. You know, three landings in the playoffs were enough to change your luck.
And you know, we.
Talked about appreciating that, you know, things can change in the blank of an eye, and you have to be in the moment and you have to be able to enjoy it. But as much as I'm you know, as much as we talk about that throughout the season, I'm convincing myself to do that at the same time, right like I'm trying to remember to myself and reflecting on it and looking back at it right now, I'm like, I still took that for granted. I still you know, assume, hey,
we're going to be healthy for this run. We're at least getting this year. And you know, for that to be such a major part of the story, it's it's frustrating.
And uh, you know, you don't get to choose how you build your contender. You know, there's so much luck that comes into it. You know, you don't just get to choose to add a Lebron or whoever it may be. But so this isn't like a criticism of the team building, but like this is the risk of being a strength in numbers. We got four, five, six guys that are all can all help on any given night, but you know we don't have a top one guy. We don't
have a Lebron. Like this is the challenge. This is the reason why everyone wants a Lebron and why everyone wants a Luca is Like, you know, like there is just a you get you get two guys banged up, and.
I mean that can still happen to the one, Like you know, Steph Curry just left the game. Lucas a million playoff series.
There's no one rode up the mountain. But like it does feel, you know, it's felt often to me that this Cavs team can you know, has that you know, that Swiss watch quality where you know, like when everything's going, when everything's kind of good, everything's great, but you know, it just takes a couple of kinks and all of a sudden it's like, oh, we got one guy, you know, tis having a bad game, so we got one guy
who can run a pick and roll. Yeah, oh Evan's hurt, Dean Wade backup center, sat Lote, you know, and like, you know, these are all the challenges that come with roster construction. You don't get to build a perfect team, and you don't get to choose who gets hurt, and like you can only insulate in so many spots, you know. Yeah, like, you know, I thought they did a great job of covering for DeAndre Hunter's absence tonight. I did not spend a lot of possessions going damn if only DeAndre were
out here. Honestly, I thought.
They did a great job of covering for no Evan right, like that that's the anchor of our defense, and I thought they did one of their best jobs at the point of attack limiting dribbled drive penetration for Indiana, there was a lot of times where the Pacers weren't able to get the cas into rotation and generate the same types of looks. I thought, you know, that.
Goes to show you.
As much as you talk about roster construction and personnel and your strengths offensively and defensively, a lot of it does come down to execution and effort. And I thought the execution and effort was absolutely there. I thought that they had enough to go out there and win tonight. Just frustrating to not come away with that win, right, And you know, I I it's one of those that's
going to stick with you. It's really really you know, you got to give Indiana credit for continuing to fight throughout that game and playing themselves into a position to capitalize on it.
But yeah, it's it's it's up there with one of the most painful losses in the franchise's history. It is because of the context of what the seats this team has been all year, you know, like, I mean, nothing will ever top twenty eighteen Game one for me, I was you know, I was one of those go to bed miserable, wake up miserable games for me, just because I you know, I truly felt like that Golden State team was ready to splinter and crack, and next year
they did. I still didn't hit me that, Yeah, I know, yeah, this is one of our biggest differentials in terms of like my pure uncut misery after that game. But you know, this is right up there and maybe worse. You know, this is a great Vibes Cavs team who won sixty four games, you know, that twenty eighteen team. You know, even if someone who is on the upper end of the respect the second Lebron era enjoyers, even even to the bitter end, like that was not a good Vibes team.
That was not a team that you know, it was a team that easily could have lost in the first round, if you'll recall. And you know, it just feels like we're so far away from when it from being up by sixty against Miami, just like it's just a few days away.
Yeah, that's that's the crazy thing, man, Like, you know.
I just I just thought I thought this team was ready to go, you know, maybe win a title coming off of that series. And whether it's the injuries, whether it's the whether it's the execution down the stretch, it's just it feels like it's slipping away a little bit. It's not over yet by any means. You know, they you know, they absolutely can come back and make this a series, but like, who does kind of feel that
way right now sitting in a fan seat? Yeah, absolutely right, And that's one of the things you almost forget with how easy the Miami series was. Every loss feels like the end of the world in the playoffs like that, that's just the nature of the beast. Obviously, it feels even worse when when you're down. Guys, we have seen the Cavs lose two games at home in the playoffs
and come back to win a series. Now, obviously those were different teams, but you know, you don't know what teams are capable of until you see them in those situations, right, And I think we're going to continue to learn more and more about this team and based on what we see, you know that that's going to continue to inform you know, as you like to say, the lessons you're going to learn. But I think your point about, hey, you're you're never
going to have a perfect roster. You have to you know, you have to make the most of the talent that's available to you.
That's that's what it is.
Man.
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Know who is working happy and working hard in a way that really warmed my heart. We touched on him before, but I want to give a shout out to Max Drews because if I could, if I could pick and choose, you know, who's on this roster, I would clone a million Max Drews's. I would build the entire plane on Max Drews's because that guy plays hard that he worked his ass off, you know, the extra possessions you talk about Indie fouling physically and putting the lumber into guys.
Max was making you feel him out there, Like when he was setting a screen for Tyrese, he was making sure there was a little extra on there. He was physical the entire night. He hit big shots. That transition dunk that he had was phenomenal. I thought it was almost a perfect Max true game, you know, not until that.
Turnover at the end throwing the ball away. Yeah, not even that I don't really put on Max. They were out of timeouts. He had to put the ball into play, and as I mentioned five, you know, four Cavaliers were sitting there being hugged and shimmying their shoulders and putting their arm up feebly like you know, It's not like he missed a wide you know, an open receiver streaking wide open, thirty yards down the field. It was a jump ball. He had no targets. Yeah.
Yeah, And you know what I was going to say, was not a perfect game in terms of you know, being mistake free, but being resilient within that play, right, Like I thought, you know, you have a little rut there where you're not hitting threes, you step up and you hit that big one to put the Cavs up Evan. I just thought it was a terrific game from him. I thought Jared really stepped up and had a great game.
The one thing I'll.
Say about how Jared was used in this one was at the start we were really getting some good actions out of him out of the short role both as a scorer, and he had three assists pretty early on in the game. Kind of felt like we got away from that a little bit, and I understand we were able to get downhill a lot. The guard to guard screening was generating a ton of good looks. Getting Tyre's Halliburton into you know, action was resulting in a lot
of good looks. I just felt like that was potentially something they could have gone to a little bit more to see if, hey, maybe Jared has a little bit of gas here, you know, it can finish in these spots. Maybe kick it out for some catch and shoot threes. Maybe that could be something that generates us some offense when we're looking tired as hell out here.
It feels so stupid to talk x's and those right now, like it's really hard, but there is stuff, you know, there is stuff that there is to take away. You know, Indy didn't just magic away the Cavs offense in the final five six minutes of that game. What they did was they just started blitzing and extending their coverage further and further and further and further away from the hoop.
You know, when they were running some of those plays, there was you know, Alberton was showing all the way out to damnear half court on some of these guard guard pick and rolls, and like, I do think that's where you really felt the lack of Evan and even the lack of Darius and the lack of ty Jerome having the worst game of his life, which we haven't hit on yet. It's an absolute, you know, disaster performance for him, and I think he'd probably tell you that.
But like, you know, if they've got two to three guys pressuring the ball at half court in a half court possession, you've got to provide a release valve and attack the hoop. And I just felt like that's where Ocoro let you down in terms of consistent ability to attack. That's where you know, heavy legs let them down where they just kind of said, Donovan, just you split it, and you know he split it a couple of times, but like, you know, not enough shooting, not enough, not
enough sharp decision making against that pressure. I'm sorry. You need to be able to make the Indiana Pacers pay when they're putting two on the ball at half court. Yea, we watched the Cavs make the Miami Heat pay when they put two on the ball at half court consistently. And yeah, the personnel was better. Yeah, Tie was having a great series and in this and uh, you know he had I mean, I mean again, just a nightmare game.
Shorted every single floater, even the ones that were off you know, off a good foot, not the you know, the tide your own special, but the normal floaters for normal guards. He was aiming them, you know, And I just think, I think, really it, I don't want to say, you know, the team collectively lost the game, obviously, yeah, but the fact that they just couldn't count on Tie to help at all. Two points on fourteen field goal attempts for assists, oh, four from three. You know, when
you're down, it's tough, man like it. I mean, you made you made the right choice in my opinion, because we've tied with Lima and you're like they should start tie because you want two ball handlers. You want to be able to attack Indiana for multiple side to the court, and they couldn't tonight because ty couldn't do it, you know, and like that's I mean, it's just a bomber outcome.
I mean, there's so much about this this game that you just kind of go, like you you want to talk the excess and o's and like you're right, like some of the pressure relieve stuff is there and you know some ways to cover, but then so much of this game goes down to well that sucks. Yeah, And I just you know, and that's why I think they're going to have a hard time bouncing back from this.
Yeah, And I'm not going to pile on Tye. You win games collectively, you lose games collectively. I know everybody, when you have a painful loss, they look for a scapegoat, right like they look for their pound of flesh. Whether it's guys that weren't able to give it a go that we're trying to play, whether it's someone that was out there that struggled. I think every single player up and down the roster, The coaching staff, all has plays, all has moments within this game that.
They would have back.
I'm not going to to pile on there, but I think, you know, it does show when you reach playoff level defense, when when you play a real team like the Indiana Pacers that's been playing great basketball for a while now, if you're part of that starting unit, you're going to face another level of pressure, right, And I think what they were able to do with them hard Whitney Smith, in particular on the perimeter, just made TI feel uncomfortable. Uh. And you know, that's a level of game planning. He's
not used to the scene in the regular season. I think he's going to be more equipped to handle that in Game three, whether it's coming in off the bench or whether he's called upon to start again. But it was definitely a tough night for him. And you know, Uh, I like the fact that in this game there was less uh soft switching than we've seen in previous matchups. There were still some of it, but I thought for the most part they were allowing guys to fight through screens.
If that was there.
The one thing I gotta say is if you are going to switch some of these possessions, you kind of gotta live with the results a little bit. I saw Matt Moore was tweeting about this as well, where jaredt is switching some of these Miles Turner pick and roll, pick and pop situations, and then he's out there scrambling and over helping after the fact to get back out to Turner, and you just got to kind of live with the results.
Like I you know.
If you're giving up those shots, you gotta live with it, because once you get into that scramble mode, if there's a second chance opportunity, you're not going to be able to recover from that. You have to to kind of live with your defensive coverage and stick to it. And if the coverage isn't working, you change up the coverage,
but you have to execute it. And the other thing is from an execution standpoint, the end of quarter threes is something that you know, just that extra ten you know, five ten seconds of focus and effort points a game for right now, it really is right like it's just hey that those seconds of the quarter probably you know that they are out there, they're going to try to get that three pointer. At the end of the quarter. They know they're going to try to kick it out
to the corners. You know that they're going to get out and transition, They're going to find ways to leak out and get these opportunities, little things like that. It's the little things in the margin that you know, when you're up fifteen or you're up eighteen, I think at
some of those opportunities doesn't feel as bad. Hey, you got points to play with, but you see how it has an effect at the end of the game, right, And it's that kind of stuff that makes me not dwell on, you know, struggles of someone individually like a Ti Jerome, and focus on kind of the picture as a whole, because it's little plays throughout the entire game that end up to, you know, amounting to that end result.
Yep, man, it's a I gotta tell you, it's it's I you know. And by the way, this is why it's so stupid, and I'm very guilty of this for pre dooming, you know, because it doesn't make the loss any easier, you know, it doesn't make it you know, talking about you know, you saw some of my d ms after it was very clear that all three of these guys were not going to play.
Uh.
You know, the pre misery doesn't actually save you from the postgame misery. You know, it's it's better to try to be calm and rational and try to find the fun in it. Because you know, I'm no, I'm in no better shape for having prepped myself emotionally for for that, for that outcome.
And that's why, you know what, I'm not doing that with game three because I'm sitting here, I'm like, you know what, if the Calves go out and they win Game three, I'm going to get excited again. I want to say, hey, now you just got to win one more game. And that's got to be their mentality. You look at the postgame coaches, you look at you know, the postgame interviews. They got an edge to them. So I Kenny said, hey, you know, the locker room wasn't
sitting there dejected. They know what they need to do. I'm going to give them, these guys the benefit of the doubt because they showed me a lot of heart tonight.
You know, we SHOs a lot of heart. Even in the Celtics series last year. I went and pulled it up, you know, and they those final games. If you box score Hunt from that playoff series, like it looks like they let go of the rope. You know, Boston wins Game five by fifteen points, but like they really played their ass off.
They almost won Game four without Mitchell, without Allen, They almost found a way to win Game four. And you know, I hate the fact that, hey, when you're missing two of your core members, you know, you've found a way to almost win. Like, I hate that we're in that situation again in the second round because we want, you know, we want usable tape. We want to be able to assess this core and you.
Know, maybe that's part of the assessment. You know, it's all data.
Yeah it is, and it's going to have to be. But you know, it is frustrating to be in that situation. But I think the fight that we've seen this team show gives me belief that they can go out and win Game three.
And if you.
Win game three, you have a chance to then take Game four. And if you manage to do that, it's a brand new series. You know, Donovan talked about how he expects guys to be back for Friday. We'll see if that ends up being the case. We know that everyone's going to be giving it their their best to
try to go out there and compete. It's you know what you want and what is physically possible and whether you know what's actually in the team's best interest, you know, because it's one thing to go out there and an attempt to play, but are you actually going to be a positive That's the kind of thing that the medical staff has to assess. Well, we'll we'll see how what what type of shape they're in on Friday, But at least they have, you know, the the extra day off.
I think that's one thing that they this team sorely, sorely needed.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you hope you see something. You hope you see Uh you know, I I'm actually not I'm not worried about this team's ability to play with pride, ability to play sharp, you know, and recover. You know. I just I uh, I know, I picked Calves in five. I think if you just you know, read that headline, you would uh be like, oh, you big idiot. You thought this was going to be an easy series for the Cabs, And like, you know, I really do have so much respect. I've had a lot of respect for
this any team since before the season even started. I thought they were a better team than their record all year, and you've been consistent on that and I and I think Rick Carlisle's, you know, a top two coach in the NBA, and uh, they're they're not just gonna give it to you. You're gonna have to go. You're gonna have to take it from them, And uh, I'm just I'm a little worried about the team's ability to muster the juice to do it at this point. Yep.
But hey, if I thought that this team could win in five and there's five games left, it's still possible.
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