"You Didn't Build That"

is to decode what really matters with actionable intelligence. Make no mistake American, You're a great American. Again the Buck Sexton Show begins. No, Welcome to the Buck Sex and Show. Everybody, Thank you so much for being here, Thank you for joining me. It is always an honor of privilege and a pleasure. We're going to cover a lot of ground

that down the show. We'll talk about ending wars and how Republicans seem to have a real problem with that and Democrats only have a problem with it when a Republican president wants to do it. That's not a surprise. Whatever Trump is for, they are against. And then we'll also be joined by a senior former senior DA officer about this huge fentanyl bus at the border, and just what can we do about the fentanyl, the fight against fencyl and all these opioid overdoses. That's that'll be a

really interesting conversation. And I have to talk about some of the latest lunacy from MSNBC and what they're putting out there in the Russia collusion conspiracy theories. They just won't they won't give it up. They just won't stop. Every day, I feel like it's the same Rachel Maddow's show in particularly or whatever I've seen it, which is

pretty infrequent, but it's the same show every night. It's something something Russia, blah blah, Trump, twenty fifth Amendment, impeachment, Russia, Russia. I don't know how people watch this stuff so much. I don't know who is watching this. It's so stupid people. The people watching are not learning anything. It's not worth

their time. It's not true, but here we are. What is true, though, is that the Democrats have gotten this this unexpected and rude awakening from Schultz, a former CEO of Starbucks, who is along with Michael Bloomberg, trying to speak some sense to the Democratic Party, and the good news for us, my fellow conservatives, is that the Democrats don't want to hear it. They don't want to take this sound fiscal advice from two people who do know how to run a business. You say what you will

about Mike Bloomberg, say what you will about Schultz. They know how to run a business, an incredibly effective, large

profitable business. And you've got to you've got to have respect for that, right, I mean, you've got to be able to look at what Howard Schultz has accomplished and say, Okay, well, here's a guy who does have a real skill set, a skill set that's not just demagoguery and telling stupid people what they want to hear and then you know, capitalizing on intersectional politics and identity politics and all the rest of it. But but can really do something. I mean,

you are seeing now this happened today. People who are trying to say that Schultz is not self made grew up in a housing project. He's not self made because the housing project, you see is paid forward taxpayer dollars, and therefore he lived in subsidized housing. So it's not true to call himself made. He is community made. He is community made. Who does that begin to remind you of who does that start to sound a little bit like in terms of that approach to individual achievement. Play sixteen.

If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we had that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invest in roads and bridges. If you've got a business that you didn't build that, somebody else made that happen. If you've got

a business you didn't build that, somebody else made that happen. Obama, you see, he encapsulated the left wing socialist Democrat Party mantra in one moment, in a way that is timeless, because that's what they really think. They don't believe an individual excellence and achievement and the meritocracy. That's all nonsense to them. It's all collective action, state intervention. And that's why Schultz has been such a shake up for them.

That's what they don't like to hear this stuff about a guy who brought himself up and did all this, did all this on his own. They said, no, you didn't do it on your own. We did it for you, and therefore we can tell you what to think, what to say. Your success is our success, Your success is collective success. This is a recipe for the destruction of the system that has brought so much incredible wealth to

this country. It's hard to fathom what it would have been like in the world today if there had not been an America leading the way for free markets, free enterprise, capitalism, individual rights, rule of law. Democrats are willing to throw that all in the bonfire of their progressive lunacy if need be. That's why they're talking about taxes in this way. They don't think the money is yours in the first place. Taxes aren't the government taking from you. Taxes are what

you are allowed to get from the government. Scholtzen Blueberg disagree play too. When I see Elizabeth Warren come out with a ridiculous plan of taxing wealthy people, assert tax of two percent because it makes a good headline, this is what's wrong. I mean, you can't just attack these things in a punitive way by punishing people. Number One, I think the constitution lets you impose income taxes only,

so it probably is unconstitutional. Number Two, I don't know of any country that has done that people earn money to pay their taxes and then they don't have to expect the government to come back and take some of it away. You know, Mike Bloomberg on a lot of things, he's terrible. At least he understands what a stupid idea it is to try and institute this wealth tax. Although in principle, from a fairness perspective, it is more fair. It is more fair than an income tax, that is true,

but you'd never be able to do it. But they're not in the doing things game, the Democrats. They're in the just say whatever you got to say to get power game, and they're not in the celebrating individual achievement frame of mind. They want to talk about all the things that the Democrat programs and government assistance and all

that has done. Because if it was a collective achievement, if Howard Schultz pulled himself up out of poverty because of all the great things that left wing activist groups have achieved with government programs or government housing, whatever it is, then whatever he has we should be able to take from him. Whatever wealth he has is at our leave. We let him have it, right, We being the collective of the progressive status left. This is disconcerting. I mean,

this is going right. They were not expecting to have, I think at this time, one the open advocacy for infanticide by Democrats and two of the most major states in the country. And two this unexpected challenge to core left wing Democrat beliefs, that being that you can't just tax people into oblivion and pretend like you don't have to understand a balance sheet and costs and the ingo

the outgo and what's happening in a business. Those are important factors in how you would run the government too. But you know, you didn't build that. Howard Schultz didn't make himself. The people that put together the project, that took the taxes to fund it, they made him. I also want today say that anyone who scrubs a toilet works harder than Howard Schultze ever has. I'll tell you I've scrubbed a lot of toilets. It's harder to run Starbucks and it is to scrub a toilet. All right,

So the left needs to get a grip here. They're kind of you know, rise up working class routine is not gonna last very long unless they get tethered to reality real soon and we will be right back as women. That the pay gap and the wage gap is an injustice that persists through secrecy, and it's an injustice that persists to the present day. The Paycheck Fairness Act addresses,

among many things, two very critical ones. One is that we cannot ask for salary history and pay people depending on their salary history any more anymore, because it is time we pay people what they are worth and not how little they are desperate enough to accept. And that has nothing to do with their history. It has everything

to do with what they are worth today. This woman, Okazia Cortez, is a just wild ignoramus on the economy and really it doesn't know anything, does not know anything, and it's becoming more and more apparent all the time. And I tweeted out today it's obvious to me that she's overpaid. Whatever she's making in Congress, it's too much. But how would how would this be instituted? The notion of a Paycheck Fairness app Act, And that the wage gap is this injustice. The wage gap between men and

women is a myth. It's a myth. Libs keep talking about it. They pretend to care about science and facts. There is no wage gap. If there were a wage gap, which you would find is in jobs where they're are that there's really very little difference in the quality of the employee, you would have whole companies where all they want to do is hire women. Because if you could save twenty percent, So I think it's over twenty percent. They say it's seventy Mike, what are the seventy seven

cents on a dollar? I think was it twenty three percent something like that. That's, you know, whatever the myth is. I think the myth probably changes every time, but I think it's inn seventy seven or seventy two cents on the dollar. For every every dollar manner and have you could save twenty or thirty percent on your labor costs for a business, you'd have a massive advantage. A lot of businesses which people who have never run any or don't know anyone who runs them, run on a pretty

pretty narrow margin. You know, there are some businesses where it's a razor thin margin, and the idea that you'd be able to just come along and say, well, you know, this person should get paid X because well because what because what? How how will you even know her? Thing about how you shouldn't be able to ask for somebody's salary history. I say to that a whole On a second, isn't that an indicator of their what they have been valued at in other workplaces for similar work? I mean,

isn't it relevant to the discussion. I don't think it determines your whole you know, I don't think it terms your whole worth. But this all comes from the lie that people like to be told that they're not making as much money as they think they should because somebody else is holding them back for an unfair reason. And life is not fair, business is not fair. That's all true. We can start from that proposition. But it's not all because somebody is a man or a woman or any

of these things. It's all more complicated than that. I mean. But to pass a paycheck Fairness Act, this is just going to be a huge invitation for all kinds of lawsuits and for people to essentially come up with excuses for,

you know, why they don't negotiate well for themselves. But I can tell you negotiating as somebody who has had a negotiate a fair amount of his own employment contracts recently, Negotiating deals requires not just judgment, but a little bit of you've got to have some self confidence and also a little tinge of assertiveness, not aggression, but assertiveness. It's a skill. There's a reason why people who are very

good negotiators are paid for that. And obviously President Trump takes a tremendous amount of pride in what he views as his unparalleled skills of negotiation. Right, it is a skill. It's not just something that anyone can do. And because of the assertiveness factor as well, you're always going to have people who are a little better at getting that higher solider than somebody else because they're willing to look,

are they willing to walk away from the job. Are they willing to say that they have another they have another offer when they do? Yeah, seventy two cents in the dollar. Proucer, Mike semi Hero. It varies, but that's kind of considered the average. That's a massive savings. If a man and a woman are equally qualified for a job, and the only reason that you would hire the man is because of a man. Anybody who's a capitalist with an IQ over fifty would say, I'm just gonna hire women.

I'm gonna save almost thirty percent on my labor costs. It's not that simple. Does not work that way, And this is where you start to get into that conversation and a lot of people, including someone the right that I don't like to hear, which is, you know, men and women also make different decisions. This is reflected in how people say, oh, well, women are relegated to dominance in lower paying jobs. That's not true. Yes, there are

a lot of women who are in nursing. There are a lot of women who are in elementary school teaching. That's true, and that's great. There are also women who outnumber men by a pretty wide margin in the veterinary field, which you make really good money. I mean, vets can some ways have a better deal than a lot of doctors. Do you make really good money? Is that because there's anti male sexism in the veterinary field? Though, it's because women are more drawn to that field than men are,

because biology matters, you know. This is this is when you start to have to look at the cold hard facts of existence in the world as it is, not as liberals would like to pretend that it is. It's so much easier to say that someone else is the cause of Look, I have so many frustrations in life. I have frustrations day to day. I have frustrations. You know, this show should be on every single radio station in the country. That hasn't happened yet. You know, I got frustrate.

Everyone's got their frustrations, right. But it's easier, and it's understandable why we take take this approach. It's easier to be told that the frustrations that you have, the feelings you have of you know, either coming up short, or it's not enough or whatever, all of that. It's easier for that to feel like it is the result of some externality. Somebody else is taking away what is truly what should be you, or someone is taking away what you would rightfully get if it were not for them.

You know, you didn't build that, right You didn't build that. Everybody built it. Therefore we all should get a piece of it. We all sho be able to take someone from you because you only have it because we gave it to you. That's one very effective way of politically capitalizing on envy, telling a massive people that, Okay, you don't like your job, you don't like your You know, you don't like your station in life, you don't like how things are going. It's not because of any choices

you made. And it's not because maybe you just haven't been that lucky yet and needed to stay in the fight. Somebody else is the reason for this. There, close mindedness, their bigotry, their sexism, there or whatever, that's the reason why you don't have that's a seductive argument. We want to believe these things because it is much harder to sell correct which requires self honesty. That's a much more challenging thing people to do, and that's not sexy to sell.

And politics, folks, people don't like to hear really personal responsibility. They don't like to hear life is. And I've said this to people that are very close to me recently. You know, the older I get, the more I realize we are all just a compilation of our choices. We are a compilation of our choices. Who you are as a person is just really you are all the choices you have made throughout life, better for worse. That's what

you know. How you treat people, how you treat yourself, how you go about your day to day everything you are just your choices, your actions and your words, your choices. But if a politician come along and say, oh no, that's not true. You're you're having these problems. You have

these frustrations because of someone else. This is why socialism is so potent because of this, because socialism both pretends to have the answers to all of your ills and frustrations and pretend to be able to solve them in a way that's going to be more more reultan more prosperity, and be more fair and better for everybody. So why wouldn't you sell it? Why wouldn't you buy into this? Why wouldn't you want to be a part of this? Right?

Socialism is appealing psychologically. That's why it's so important that we pull it apart and tackle this based on the substance and only mock it insofar as we have to, or because we have to have a little fun when AOC is talking. More coming up and we can all almost every single person this country can acknowledge some privilege

of some type. You know, I'm a cisgendered woman. I will never know the trauma of feeling like I'm not born in the right body, and that that is a privilege that I have, no matter how poor my family was when I was born. But it's really hard for some people to admit that they you know, it's part of this weird American dream mythology that we have that for a lot of in a lot of circumstances, isn't as true, or isn't as clearly communicated as we like for it to be, or we wish it were there.

You go more aoc Okazio Cortez in action here saying things that kind of sounds smart, at least to liberals, but when you drill down into them a little bit, when when you look just beneath that surface levels, it's complete silliness. It has no real meaning. Or rather, we can start from the proposition of ask what does that mean? She acknowledges her privilege because she was born sis gendered. Essentially, what she's saying is, because I'm not suffering from gender dysphoria,

I have a privilege that I have to acknowledge. Now, let's just start with this. Where does it end? Where does privilege end? Is there attractive people privilege? Because I think that for people that I know who are really good looking, that makes their life easier than anything else possible except for maybe, you know, having a lot of family money. And maybe some people would even take being really really good looking over having a lot of family money.

But the people that I know, we're really good looking. Life is that? Is that a form of privilege that has to be accounted for in political and social interactions? Where does this stop? Do I have to acknowledge my privilege because I don't suffer from multiple personality disorder? I do have that. I do not suffer from multiple personality disorder, which is a very rare condition as it turns out,

But I don't have that, So am I privileged? The transgender community is, as a percentage of this country, very small, but we talk about it a lot, don't we mean, the Democrats and the media have very clear and very obvious agendas when it comes to the not just the LGBTQ community, but specifically the trans community. Now gets a lot of attention, and this is now trendy. It is fashionable to say that being born cisgendered, which just means you are either male or female. That's what cis gender is.

I'll tell you I got a bigger I got a bigger actual functional vocabulary than ninety nine percent a leftist that I meet, And I'm just not saying a hundred percent that don't want to sound conceited, but it's actually one hundred percent. I had to learn what the word cisgendered meant two years ago. I said, what what is this? Cisgendered?

All of a sudden. But this is important to the left because talking about privilege in any context, it is really just a function of acknowledging the victim status of someone else. And victim status is used by leftists, by democrats in this country to transfer power from some groups to others, because when you're a victim, you can make

a claim on your oppressor. So if you are a victim of society because of the way you look, the way you sound, the way you you know, your sexual orientation, whatever it may be, the left then uses that and it's it's especially effective against moral and decent people who you know, want to do right by others and can get guilted into things. It's particularly effective with them. But they can transfer power then to these oppressed groups because

we owe it to them. It is owed to you to have special legislation that protects you in this way or that way, it is owed to you that we change our tradition of free speech so that the words we use do not offend people within a certain community or any of the rest of it. This is a core ludacy. I mean, this is why Trump was able to win the You know, he doesn't talk about it

as much anymore, which I find a little frustrating. But political correctness, which he used to call out by name, is stifling, and people with any sense are really sick of it. Just don't don't want to hear any more of the nonsense from the PC police. Think that the entire thing is completely overdone now and and is hurting our culture. As I've discussed with you, it hurts comedy, it hurts television and entertainment, and you know, just it

hurts our ability to discuss things. I'm not just saying this because it's a lazy way of saying I could say even funny or something I do on this show, But there are a lot of times when there's a joke that I want to make and I know I can't make it because even if you're okay with it, all it takes is one smarmy lib in the audience who happens to be tuning in and then they want to make some big thing and they write an email to this you know, organization, and you know, then I

got all kinds of problems. But one other thing here is on this competing categories of these competing categories of oppression, which is what the and this is all intersectionality. This is all just a discussion really of intersectionality. And Okazi Courtez saying that she's privileged because she assist gendered. What are we supposed to really do with that? You know, I asked before, what does it mean? What do we do?

What action are we supposed to take? Is it really enough for it's just to walk around and say, well, you know, I recognize my privilege, and I recognize it, so then I oh, our songs are okay, that's it. No, they must want something with this. They must be asking for people to recognize their privilege because they're at least trying to get a change in behavior and probably to bully people into either abandoning their own politics or adopting the politics of the left. How would you measure this?

How would you gauge this? Okay, I'm very fortunate in life because I am sis gender. Does that mean that when I go up for a job against a transgender person, that person should get that job? Is that? I think

there are a lot of lives would say yes. I would note, and I mean this, if you were trying to find a surefire way for your kid who might just be on the bubble to get into you know, Harvard or Yale or one of these places, if they're close enough, if your son or daughter were close enough, I'd say, have them apply as some kind of trans rights activists. The school will take him. The school will

take him. It sounds like kind of a privilege to me to be treated specially to be given special consideration by the media and now increasingly by the government. But yeah, that's she. It is a trendy thing to say I have to recognize being sis gendered as privileged. No, it's just recognizing your biology, which is in fact male or female. Smart border security is not overly reliant on physical barriers. There's not going to be any more money in the

in the legislation. What did you say today, Congress is it doesn't matter what Congress does. I knew that he wanted it all to himself. I mean, really, a president who wants to have Congress to be completely irrelevant, and how we meet the needs of the American people. Now, to everybody who's wondering how this movie ends, it ends this way. We're going to build a wall one way or the other. I just talked to the President ten minutes before I came up. The President's not doing anything crazy.

What's crazy is that they're fighting him after having voted the way they did in the past. Who's right? Will there be a wall or not? Will this wall get done or at least get started and really get up and running. I don't know. Team. I can't tell you that. I have a real good prediction to make here. I think that this goes to a national emergency declaration. Trump tells the military to build a wall, build a fence, and he is enjoined by probably the Ninth Circuit immediately,

and that stops him. And then this makes its way through, and then I suppose the Supreme Court in maybe a year, a year and a half, whenever it's going to be, the Supreme Court will have its say. I do think that Trump will win. I think that the Statute about a National emergency clearly makes clearly gives the president authority from the Congress by its own passage of legislation to do that, to do this kind of thing. But you know, Pelosi is managing to position herself here as somebody who

is and and just a complete anti wall extremist. Not a dollar from the wall, no money in the wall in the legislation for a wall. Why why don't why don't people ask her about this? Why isn't she being asked to defend why that is? And notice that she's also she's such a dishonest and just prototypical politician in all the worst way to meet the needs of the American people. Please, Nancy, let's slow your role with them. Meet the needs of the American people, all right, You

and your party don't believe in enforcing our borders. They definitely don't believe in interior enforcement, which doesn't get talked about at all. I mean that they are not in favor of finding illegals and deporting them to their home countries, which is what the law currently on the books that Congress has pass says. They've given funding for fences and walls in the or fences, walls, whatever it was in the past, and now they've walked away from it entirely

and said that this is crazy. The walls that are in plays work very well, the upgraded walls work incredibly well. So I just don't think she really has She doesn't have an honest argument to make, and so what you get from her is just shameless, shameless demagoguery. And that is the way of Nancy Pelosi. The shutdown is probably not going to happen because we're going to get to shut downtown time and everyone is going to say, all right,

Trump ended the last shutdown. We know Democrats aren't going to be one be the ones who cave this time around. So with that being the case, why not just go right to a national emergency and start building this offense. Trump does that. I think he's he's in very very good shape for twenty twenty, and I think that he will eventually be able to build a lot of that wall. Lindsey Graham is interesting enough because he's not really all

that hawkish on the border. He's not somebody who is particularly anti illegal immigration, and for him to sort of be out there taking the message to the people that Trump is all in on this and this is going to happen I'd say I was a little bit. I was a little bit surprised, not a lot, but a little bit, and we will have to see how it goes. By the way, there's also a care. I mean there's the wall. I mean Trump gave this press conference today.

There's there's the wall, and there's the caravan. And these are really important, really important issues that need to be tackled playlif twenty. But we pay hundreds of millions of dollars to Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvadora, and then they have caravans leaving that country coming up here. And by the way, if you go to Tijuana and you take down that wall, you will have so many people coming into our country that Nancy Pelosi won't be begging for

a wall. Nancy Pelosi be begging for WALLI says, I don't buy that, because Nancy Pelosi likes a legal immigration. She is favorable to a legal immigration. But we do give a lot of this money to Guatemala, Honduras, to El Salvador. We give them foreign aid. And you know, those countries are not going to be any less teaming with people who want to get out because the countries are really bad shape, which means that what we do at the border now is going to have ramifications for many,

many months down the line. There will be consequences to decisions about a silent today that affect what's going on in this country years from now, because immigration has long term impacts, and these caravans that are coming up, we're going to find out. I think that the caravans, one, we're obviously coordinate with a lot of international NGOs, but also that these caravans are being planned as a regular thing.

They say they do it because of safety and numbers and it's a way of avoiding paying the smugglers fee. But I also think that this is an idea that came to them from outside, outside forces and said why don't you guys do this? And that's how we got here. So we need a fence to help stop people from being able to just march into the country in caravan fashion. We also need it, and we're going to talk to a d Age in the later on in the show, we'll talk to him about what's going on with ports

of entry with the ability to find drugs. A huge, huge fentanel seizure that occurred today, you know, the human trafficking is a major problem, a major concern. Here's what Trump said about today during a brief q and a with the press, Play twenty two. Open borders are very bad for our country. Crime comes in drugs, human traffic in so many things. But let's talk about human trafficking. You can't bring women or children through a port of entry where you have people looking into the back of

a car, a van, a truck. It has to go out into the open areas where they drive into our country like there's no problem. And that's exactly what they do. They get off the main drag or the main road, they make a right or left, and then they come right into our country. They go through areas where there is nobody. We need a border wall. If we don't have a wall to stop them, nothing's going to stop them.

This isn't about technology, and this isn't about politics. This is about practicality, and it's about security for our nation. Democrats love to talk about how they want drones for the border. I was at the left. Okay, let's say you had let's say you had drones all over the border. I mean, you had a drone, you know, everywhere when you needed it. All the drone tells you is that there are people crossing illegally. You can't continue to surveil them, especially if they get into an urban or even a

suburban area. You can't continue your drones surveillance endlessly and if you don't have the resources on the ground to stop members. It's not just that people are crossing legally,

it's the speed of the crossing. Does jumping the fence and getting the states, or you know, does running the US Mexico border take you three or four minutes and you know, considerable exertion, or is getting into America as simple as hopping into a vehicle, you know, going real fast over the border because there's nothing to block you, and then somebody tells you to get out, and then you make a run for it and you're long gone

before border which will ever arrives. You know, these are the complexities of the border debate that don't get reflected at all in the media is talking about it and the media's coverage of how this all operates. But when he's talking about human trafficking, he makes a very good point, which is also that these human trafficking organizations that's you know, they're not. They're not great at doing false, false paperwork to try to get somebody in America. Right, they're not.

They're not forging, at least not that I'm aware of. They're not forging passports for people for for human trafficking operations. So the human traffickers are bringing people across the border illegally, and they know that every time they do that, they're taking some degree of risk. But you're not going to go to a port of entry where they can check ID and say sorry, you're not going to get in here. So this is what the fence ties into so many

other things. You know, if I if I said to you that you know you need a roof on your house because you don't have a roof yet, and you said, no, I don't need a roof, And I said, no you And he said, well, why do you need a roof? And I said, well, it's gonna keep it's gonna let your house be warmer when you want it to be warmer. It will also keep water and rain and you know the elements, it'll keep wild animals out of it. All these different things. You have, all these different reasons you

really need a roof. Say well, Buck, I don't know. I don't know. That sounds like a lot of different stuff that's not gonna so the roof. What you're saying is the roof is not going to solve all my problems. That's kind of what Democrats do. We say, well, this is a necessary improvement that will affect a lot of other things. And the Laft says, well, if it's not going to be perfect and fix everything, it's not worth doing. And this is just not this is not discussing in

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democrats in the party? Does that cause problems? I'm sorry, I just don't know what he said yesterday. Are you going to ask a new question or is it the same old Sam? Notice how Pelosi there, I got a little testy, a little testy, And it's because she didn't like being asked that question. Because while Pelosi is an abortion a pro abortion extremist, because she has a far

left Lib Democrat. The whole edifice of abortion on demand for nine months of the pregnancy is really only possible if people don't have to answer questions, don't have to tell the truth, and the American people don't know what's going on. It's very important for Pelosi and her whole gang on the left to always use these words like choice to obscure what's really going on, to avoid discussing the details of what the policies they support do legalize.

And I was pleased to see the outrage yesterday at Virginia Governor Ralph Ralph Northam because what he said was one of the more horrific things I've heard any public officials say in a very long time. But then the spin machines went to work. I'm sure you have the usuals, and you have Media Matters for America coming out to try to defend north I mean, Media Matters is a place where I do not respect the people that work there.

I think that if if you work for Media Matters, which was founded by David Brock, it's it's only exists as a tax advantage five O one C three left wing hit organization on conservatives. That's all Media Matters does. It's written pieces about me, it's you know, posting stuff about me in the past, and and it's it's a trash bag organization. And any person of decency and honor would choose not to work there. So media people who work at move on dot org to activists, a lot

of bad people there. These are places where there's a lot of bad people. They of course leapt to the defense of Ralph Northam and tried to rewrite and and re reposition what he said so that it wasn't just an open and blatant endorsement of in fantasize, which it was. That's what it was. And in one of the most incredible ever versions of this, Republicans pounce. Idea. You know, this is this is the the classic liberal propaganda technique

for different for different newspapers. And what they do is they say, you know, whenever a Democrat does something wrong and Republicans pointed out to them, they say, Republicans pounce. That's always the that's always the description. Republicans pounce. It's never, oh, this person as a Democrat did something bad that people are rightfully calling out. It's reblicant. So here's here's an

example of this though. The woman that we heard yesterday, the Virginia delegate who talked about who has asked the question in the Virginia State House about whether a baby could be killed up to the moment of birth, meaning that of the mother's giving birth the baby's coming out of the birth canal under the law. And people say, oh, this would never happen. That does not matter, and who knows if that's even true under the law. Would it

be legal to do this? Okay, you could tell me, Buck, it's legal to go out and kill a hundred people. If you kill a hundred people, it's obviously murder if you kill one person, But if you kill a hundred people will create a loophole. You could tell me, oh, well, but no one's gonna go kill one hundred people for no reason, Buck, And I'd say, yeah, but why is it? First of all, who knows if that's true? And second of all, why is it legal? Why would we make

a murder legal? Doesn't make any sense. This Delegate Kathy Tran, who was on the floor. She was wanting to answer the question. The Washington Post wrote about this, and this is their headline. Okay, until this week, Delegate Kathy Tran was known for nursing her daughter on the House floor. Now Republicans are calling her a baby killer. The problem

is not you see from the Washington Post perspective. The problem is not that a woman got up and said that killing a baby that is being born is in fact legal under the bill that she was trying to support. The problem is the big, mean Republicans who said that that is what she said, and this is Soviet style propaganda. This is as dishonest as and this is not an opinion piece. This is supposed to be a news piece in politics on the Washington Post. Now Republicans are calling

her a baby killer. Well, they're probably calling her a baby killer because she wants to make it legal to kill babies. Also reminds me of how people were now. They were trying to defend Northam by saying, because it's got a lot of attention. I was. I was pleased to see that I was not the only one who

was completely outraged by this yesterday. But in order to try to make what Northam said not quite as bad, you know, to make it not quite as as grotesque and distasteful and immoral and horrific, what they've said is, oh, well, he was only talking about babies with extreme when he said, you know, keep it comfortable while it's been delivered, and then figure out what to do. With it. I mean, it's it's it's chilling even to just say and just

remember what he said. But now they're trying to tell us, oh, it's only for babies that have extreme birth defects. That was the way that they went today with you A planned parenthood jumped into action, all these different all these different left wing just awful, awful organization, and that's not true. Turns out that a large percentage of babies, for example, with Down syndrome are aborted, and in a lot of cases you can't tell the baby has Down syndrome until

many months into the pregnancy. So this idea that nobody's ever going to just say I'm going to you know, the law says I can do this, I'm going to do this is not accurate. I'm just glad that the people were holding the Democrats to some account. I also said, people say, oh, it's only two states, it's not the Democratic Party. This is this is just disingenuous and stupid stuff.

But when people are desperate, when they're desperate to believe that what they what they have said, or what they support is not a terrible and immoral thing, they'll just say whatever they have to say. I mean, they'll do whatever they have to do. And that's where that's where Pelosi comes in. You know, that's where Pelosi is saying, oh, I don't know what he said. I think I think she's lying. I think Nancy Pelosi is lying about not knowing what Ralph Northam said. But she wants to dodge

the question and just hope it goes away. I got one other thing I want to bring up for all of you before we change the topic. I'm not gonna talk more about abortion today, but I wanted to. I wanted to follow up on yesterday's conversation. Where are all of these sanctimonious Christians? Where are all these sanctimonies Christians? A lot of anti Trump evangelicals, for example, anti Trump Catholics,

where are they on this? You know they I've been hearing them make all this noise about how evangelicals you know, care about climate change too. There's not a lot of them. I know it's a small minority, but I hear these, these these loud voices. Evangelicals care about climate change. Evangelicals believe in in you know, a nation of immigrants. That's

what I'm is. Where are they on this? Where are they those same voices, those authors, those those spokespersons for their in their mind at least their denomination, their faith who go on TV. If they don't speak out on this, they have no credibility on any of those other issues.

You know, if there's a point to a prominent Catholic, whether in the clergy or in the media or somebody who does media, if that person does not speak out against what's going on right now in the legislature, what was passed in New York and what is being passed in Virginia, they are frauds. They're frauds, and so I won't I think that's something that we all do need to remember going forward when they lecture us about how you know Trump said Trump said uncouth things about women

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we have an amazing story to tell. We're not afraid to take tough questions, but we want to make sure that it's productive and that it's not for the purpose of destroying the president, distorting the message, or destroying the messenger. As we go through that process, Sarah Huckaby Sanders explaining there why they're not doing quite as many press conferences as they used to. And I understand, I understand exactly why I think all of you do too. It's not

about getting information. It just turns into a roast session for the lib audience that's watching and reading a lot of these outlets. And this is why the acosta ing of the White House press briefing has really brought about its demise. This just relentless crazy grandstanding from people who then turned around and act like, oh, well, I didn't do this, I didn't do anything that was that bad. And I'm just trying to push them and get quick no, you're not. We know that, we know what you're doing.

We know what you're doing. You are trying to make a name for yourself. You're trying to get attention for yourself, and the way to do it is by going after the administration. The hostility that you show to anybody attached to this administration is a way of building bona fidez on the left. And unfortunately, we still have an overwhelmingly left wing dominated media apparatus, and they have just beclowned themselves over the course of the Trump presidency in that

In that sense, I actually like this. I like that we see April Ryan and Acosta and others being so obviously respectful to White House people that are trying to give you know, trying to give messaging to the press corps. I mean, this is about the flow of information from the White House of the press that the press is not really needed the way that it used to be. This is what is I know, this is really an athema. They don't want to hear this or the Washington Post.

They're saying, oh, we need the press now more than ever. It's not really true. What you need are people that are getting information and sharing information who are trustworthy. But you don't have to be a journalist to be able to do that. And journalists in general, I think are way too full of themselves. I mean, they have this whole notion that without them democracy would cease to function.

Anybody walking around now with a smartphone and a cell phone or Wi Fi connection is essentially able to be an instantaneous publisher of news and information, and a lot of people are exactly that. But you know, the White House could just put out put out its statements, but its policy to answer these the questions. The questions are overwhelmingly partisan, right, they are partisan attacks against the White House.

So what's what's the point of this? You usually are seeing a focus during these hearings, are not hearing, sorry, during these briefings, hearings, briefings that's all blending together, a focus on questions that are not meant to illuminate anything for the benefit of the American people, but are meant to be an attack of some kind all the administration, are meant to undermine and beat down the administration in the public eye. So I totally understand why they're just

they're sick of it. And I think that if nothing else, the Trump administration has forever changed the way that the national press is going to be viewed by the American people. And that's a good thing because those of us who work in it know, and those of us who have spent time in these newsrooms have a full understanding of just how conceited a lot of these national journals are, and also how vote both incredibly arrogant and deeply insecure

they are at the same time. Because the whole profession has gone through a lot of change, and they they have created this mythology which doesn't exist. I mean, I keep saying this, but it's really true. In the UK, journalists traditionally have been kind of viewed as as you know, people who are a little bit of scoundrels. You know. The newspaper Masthead itself may be very respected, but the

journalists are usually fast talking, heavy drinking. And there's this kind of romanticized but also unromantic view in the UK of journalists throughout the twentieth century, and in the US we have this whole thing of journalists are almost their own They really do think of themselves as almost their

own branch of government, you know. And you go back to the days of the American Founding and when you know, people that were utilizing the printing press were so essentially you mean, you think of Thomas Payne, you think of some of these really you know, the American Aurora with

what Benjamin Benjamin Bach I think. You know, you look at these different papers that had such a big role in the in the in the founding and in getting the word out about what was going on with the revolution and in the early days of the Continental Congress. But journalists haven't involved with the times. I mean, they still cling to this idea today that they are a necessary bullwork against power. It's funny because the clowns that

right for that crappy website. The bullwork definitely think of themselves this way. That's that never Trump thing where you got Charlie Sykes. I mean, I just my thing about my conversation with Charlie Sykes was he came on my show and he was just he was hostile in a smug way without when it wasn't necessary. And I just

I just don't like that. I don't like that. You know, I have a pretty relaxed and somewhat irreverent way of talking to people, both on set and offset a lot of the time, particularly Off said, and I don't I don't like any of this unearned arrogance that a lot of journalists bring the table and the bulwark in those guys. I mean, look, psychs is not I mean stuff he writes, it is not good stuff. He says, it's not smart. I don't know, I don't know. One of you told me.

Somebody wrote me a message saying you used to listen to him in wisconsonant On radio, and it was it really was that an interesting show. I don't be shocked. But this notion of the journalists are the people that present us with the information we need them. Without them, we would all be information starved or this is this is preposterous. I think the truth is that we probably have too many journalists in this country. We have too many people that are operating in this in this field

and in this realm and not being honest. But what is they're trying to do, not understanding what the value is of their platform, and just hoping to cling to some older model where they're you know, one of the reasons that they always they always complain about institutions and how Trump is undermining institutions is because to journalists, the most important institution should probably in the United States is

the free press. Now I could, I would actually say that that's a true statement, except a free press is not lib media outlets that have been an operation for you know, whether anywhere from one hundred years to a year. I mean, you know, that's not what a free press is. A free press is you and I can say whatever we want, write whatever we want, and share information and criticize the government openly without government action. A free press is not synonymous with the New York Times. That's not

a thing. And that's where the journals, I think, run into a a bit of trouble with reality because they are not a free press. There's plenty of press out there, There's plenty of different people that are publishing and sharing information, and as long as the government doesn't creckt down on that will be in good shape. So I think that

the White as to taking the right movie. You're also going to see a big increase in the surrogate operations, and I mean the campaign, the Trump campaign is going to be largely running a lot of the information out there to American people instead of Sarah Hugaby Sanders getting abused by these imbeciles from CNN and NPR and elsewhere.

So that's what I see happening. Let's talk. I will talk to you about, well a little more about dumb people in politics, but then we will discuss This resolution in the Senate has to do with what's going on

in Syria and Iraq and Afghanistan. You know, the intelligence community put out this report, nothing really that, nothing really that new groundbreaking, you're interesting in it, But the Senate's using this now to do a little bit of you know telling us what they think that Trump administrations should be doing on foreign policy. Well, we'll break that down for you. Basically, they don't want to end the wars.

I got a problem with that. The people are doing the shouting, almost universally, are the same people who said Joe Biden shouldn't run because it was Hillary Clinton's turn. And they're the same people who put their thumb on the scale for Hillary Clinton against Bernie Sanders because he couldn't win, and they guaranteed us Donald Trump would never

be elected. Say, when you look at where the race is right now, Hillary Clintons going to be elected the forty fifth president of the United States, I think they need to spend some serious time preparing concession speech. The magnitude of the electoral catastrophe for Republicans that is upon them just really can't be overstated. The presidential race is effectively over. Hillary and Rotten Clinton will be the forty fifth President of the United States. Chuck Shermer will be

the majority leader of the United States Senate. And the only question that's still up in the air, what's the over under on the electoral college victory for Hillary Clinton. I think she's trending over four hundred, trending over four hundred. Yes, so Democrats take the Senate. Yes, Democrats the House. The first person who addresses Hillary Clinton on Tuesday Night is Madam President elect. That matters is Donald Trump. Steve Schmidt might be the dumbest person on cable news. Steve Schmidt

might in fact be the dumb you heard there. He's saying the same people saying this and that of the Democrats, now we're saying the wrong things about the election before. Right, the same people who were acting like they had all this insidery knowledge and they were the ones that really knew what was going on, those people are now telling you who's gonna win the Democratic primary. Meanwhile, Steve Schmidt

made an imbecile of himself on TV. I mean, this guy ran the McCain campaign, and I knew that, you know, even before I was in media apology, I knew that he was bad news because he's the only one. He's played by Woody Harrelson in the HBO movie about called Game Change, about the Sarah Palin period of the McCain campaign, and he's the only one that has made to look good in that, which means that he clearly talked to all the Lib journalists and tried to cover his butt

and was making friends with people. And he goes on the Real Time Bill Maher show and he says stupid things there. He's just not a very smarter or ethical guy. I mean, I've heard from people that worked on that campaign that he's just he was a constant leaker, constantly out for himself, didn't have any good ideas, you know. And then afterwards, after then that campaign was very poorly run. The McCain campaign was poorly run and got annihilated by Obama.

I mean, it wasn't even close. McCain got crushed by President Obama. And now he's going on TV and he's acting like he's somebody who can actually see the future. And I just feel like sometimes it's important to point out that these people, a lot of them, would go on TV, especially these political consultant types, are frauds, their phonies. They don't really know anything, they're not smart, they don't

bring much to a conversation of anything. But that's not even the dumbest thing that was said on MSNMEC in

the last twenty four hours. In fact, the dumbest and perhaps craziest thing said on MSNBC in the last twenty four hours comes from their number one, most highly paid, most revered television talent, Rachel Maddow, everybody who people talk about on the left like she's some kind of a god now because she's been able to beat Fox in the ratings certain nights, which is the left is, oh my gosh, it's so amazing, you can beat Fox in

the ratings. But you know, you turn on MSNBC, turn on CNN, you're put in this weird loop of an alternate, alternate universe where Russia collusion is the single most important thing that has ever been discussed ever in any universe, in any world ever. And this though last night was just the most desperate Let's take cold weather and may get a Russian plot or a Russia a possible Russian conspiracy I've ever heard in my life. And this is

an embarrassed but you should hear it. Plate twenty three National Intelligence telling us all in unclassified form, in black and white, China and Russia can do this today now whenever they want to. In other words, we're relying on their good graces that they're not. And it is like negative fifty degrees in the Dakotas Right now, What would happen if Russia killed the power in Fargo today? Right?

What would happen if all of the natural gas lines that serve as Sioux Falls just poofed on the coldest day in recent memory and it wasn't in our power whether or not to turn them back on. I mean, what would you do if you lost heat indefinitely as the act of a foreign power on the same day the temperature in your front yard matched the temperature in Antarctica? I mean, what would you and your family do? What if Russia, when it's so cold outside, shuts off our

natural gas? This is crazy and you will be thinking yourself, Fuck, why would you even It's just such a dumb thing to say. Why is she even going? Oh, that's right, because Russia fear mongering of any kind, even bizarre, detached from reality. Russia fear mongering that is catnet for the MSNBC audience. They can't get enough Russia fear mongering. Really the dumbest thing I've heard in a long time. But

there you go, more of that coming your way. My amendment would acknowledge the plain fact that al Qaida Isis and their affiliates in Syria and Afghanistan continue to pose a sirious threat to us here at home, and recognize the danger of a precipitous withdrawal from either conflict. You know, I support the President on this. I think to call it a precipitous withdrawal after seventeen years is ludicrous. I mean, we've been there seventeen years. We need to learn as

a country how to declare victory. We've got been law, we disrupted the people who attacked us. I was all for that. I think we need to continue to have surveillance of the region, but I don't think we have to have soldiers there forever. We have to learn how to declare victory. And frankly, I'm with President Trump in the sense that we're spending fifty one billion dollars a year in Afghanistan. Let's spend some of that money at home.

We'd have plenty of money for a wall if we weren't building roads, bridges and everything else, gas stations, hotels. We're building fifty one billion dollars worth of stuff in Afghanistan every year. I'm for spending that money here at home. It's disheartening to me that the GOP establishment, led by Mitch McConnell here is so opposed to ending endless war.

And sure enough you have there are lunatics out there like Max Boot who are saying, we need to view this as a hundred year long conflict and so we just should accept that we're gonna have troops in these countries for a hundred years. No, we don't need to accept that. Look, I'm the more I look at some of our military employments and places even like South Korea and Okinawa, and we got military and so many places all of the world. I don't think we need to

have quite the deployments that we do. I don't think we need to have quite as many soldiers in as many places as we do. And the fact that the GOP still has this very obvious hesitancy to scale down combat zone deployments in places where you know we should be able to answer. Let me walk through the systematically. I'm gonna try to take some of the partisanship and the people, oh I'm right now, you're a right, and

all that stuff out of us. You can apply with these very important questions of where we have military deployed in a combat So and you can apply some very straightforward frameworks for how to think about this. Here's one, what is the US national security interest of this deployment? Now, if the US national security interest starts to fall very quickly into a discussion of well, we've been there and we need to show leadership and we need to make smart,

we need to do smart diploma. See and you know a lot of kind of buzzwords and honestly a lot of bs, it's a bad sign. The answer to what is the US national security interests should be a very clear, straightforward and that's not just what's the security interest, because we're not supposed to be sitting around saying, well, if we stay in Afghanistan, it will help the remnants of the Northern Alliance, you know, the the Tajiks and the Uzbeks and Hazaras, who are you know, the back mone

of the Northern Alliance. It'll help them stabilize the country against malign Taliban influence from the Pashtun regions in the south and the east. Now that's their national security interests, I mean our national national security interest. What's in our interest? And if it's, oh, we can't leave because the missions not dumb. Well, then I'll say, we'll explain to me what the mission is again. You know, you have to

avoid a tautology. You have to avoid going in, going after these foreign policy questions with essentially a series of more questions. You know, we should be there because it sounds strategy to be there. Okay, why does it sound strategy, Well, because we think that there's you know, there's a long term benefit to the region for stability. Okay, why is that long term benefits for stability in the region in

our interest? You know, you keep chasing the answers with more questions, and I know it can be kind of a frustrating experience maybe, but I think it's a really important one because we should expect that those in our leadership, in our government who are sending young men and women into places where they're not you know, they're not just under some threat. They are still taking casualties. People are dying, people are being killed in these places. And you also

add into that the cost. I'm amazed at how many, honestly, how many conservatives I know who are not anti Trump but but very critical of Trump, who think that, you know, having a few thousand guys in the middle of the Syrian desert. Is you know, no big deal of the the cost of bringing in you know on c. One thirties or however else is that the cost of bringing

in the equipment of material is is amazingly high. This is not an inexpensive thing to do to set up two thousand American troops in a hostile foreign country that's in the midst of a civil war and keep them, keep them secure and supplied and able to take the fight to the enemy. This is not a minor thing. This is This is very This is a challenging and expensive thing, certainly expensive. So you ask these questions though it and you you find yourself getting very unsatisfactory answers.

You know, in the case of Syria, which you know I amount and I said that I opposed the somewhat establishment conservative view on this, that oh, we have to stay there because the fight against ISIS is not over all, right, That's that's an interesting concept. The fight against ISIS is never going to be over. Isis is gehotism. It's just the iteration of a Gehottest idea that has spread around

the globe to tens of millions of people. Now not tens of millions of them are our terrorists are gehottest. But they do believe in some version of a caliphate or a time will come when there will be a caliphate. And if we're going to be in Syria until Isis is entirely eradicated, we're going to be in Syria forever. That's so we need to understand what the standards are

that are being applied here. If we're going to be in Syria until Isis is no longer, no longer is this in that country, we are going to be there forever, all right? If we're now you take this to it another level of the Syria conflict. We're there to counterbalance a lot of people say this and they think they're very clever and very wise when they say it, and they're wrong. So we're there to counterbalance Iranian and Russian actions in Syria. How are we going to do that? Exactly?

They're flying in men and material whenever they want. We're not shooting their plans out of this guy. We're not shooting. We're not at war with the Assad regime. We're not. People liked it. People I think sometimes get confused and see think that we're in a war with the Assaud regime. We're not at war with the Assaud regime, So how are we going to counterbalance because we're gonna have Americans there?

You think assad is going to play more nicely inside his own Country's killed five hundred thousand of his own people, or five hundred thousand people have been killed in it in his war for him maintaining power. We don't have that kind of sway, and we shouldn't. We shouldn't. So if we're there to counterbalance Iran and Russia, unless we're willing to go to war, unless we're willing to go to war with Iran and Russia over the Syria issue, that's a fan to see and we will be there forever.

Here's another one, and this is the one that you really have to think about. And I think that I've thought more about it, and I came to this one. The Kurds. We've been very concerned about the Kurds, understandably so they've been good allies in this fight against the Islamic State, and we should, as a matter of principle, as a matter of honor, want to take care of our allies. We're worried about the Turks, which also brings

up this question of Turkeys a NATO allies. So why is it that we have to be so worried about a NATO ally going after another one of our allies. We've asked them very clearly, don't do that, Okay, So then we go to this other level. All right, fine, we want to make sure that the Turks won't attack

the Kurds. That means we have to stay forever. And when I stay forever, I mean no one knows what the worlds can look like in a one hundred years, but that means, you know, we're there for the next decade, easily, maybe the next few decades, because the Turkish Kurdish conflict predates this whole mess in Syria by well decades and really centuries actually, I mean these are ethnic conflicts as

much as they are ideological and state level conflicts. The Turkic people against the Kurdish people, who have both been in the region for a very very long time. So you know, that's just in the sirial question. I mean, I can break this down on any number of different foreign policy challenges or foreign policy issues, but you see what I mean, you have to be able to answer these simple questions. And I do not believe that the Republicans who are in favor of continued war in these

places have sufficient answers for these questions. I just don't believe it. I just don't think they've thought through it enough. I think that they haven't really given a given what they need to in terms of review of what has gone on here in the past and what the likelihood

is of it changing in the future. I really, I really would like to see us and the war in Afghanistan and the warr's here now when we or the war in Syria and in a rock by the way, is there a chance that the Taliban, if this deal that we've apparently struck with them, that this might lead to the Taliban seizing power and being a major problem. Yeah, there is. There is that real possibility. But is that possibility going to be there at this point no matter

what we do? Yes? I mean, it's just enough. It's enough. We have been at war since I was a soft more in college. We've been at war. This country has had troops in active combat zones for my entire adult life. And I'm looking at forty here pretty soon. So what does that say? You know, I think of Marcus Aurelius in that that scene. He was the actor he's actually

passed away. He was a great actor and does a great job in the movie Glad to Eat, where he says, you know, Maximus, you know we've had what is it, you know, two years of peace in twenty or you know whatever. I forget what the breakdown is. But he's like, I just I wanted all the means something, and you know, I brought the sword nothing more. And you know, you just think, why do we Why should we accept that we live in a state of perpetual military conflict. That's

not the way this is supposed to be. And I know there are all these arguments about counterinsurgency and counter radicalism and all these things. No, I think we've had enough. I think these wars should end, and even if they end on terms that we don't like. We're not leaving because our soldiers lost. We're not leaving because our military was defeated. We're leaving because we don't have anything that

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dig around them. So that's why we have to have agents underground patrolling all the pipes. A lot of ways that drug smugglers and the cartels try to get stuff across our border. Tunnels is one of the ways. Tunnels are expensive. Getting through open territory where there's no border patrol and no border fence. That's another way. And then

of course there's ports of entry. What's the reality of trying to make this more difficult for the cartels and prevent this poison from pouring into our country, which as we know, is killing tens of thousands of Americans now a year. We have somebody who can really answer these questions. We're joined by Derek Maltz, who's a former agent in charge of DA's Special Operations Division. Derek, thank you for giving us your time, Hey Buck, thank you very much

for having me on the show. I look forward to the conversation. So today, Hey, fentanyl was seized by border patrol in what is being called a record bust, and the amount of fentanyl here was was very high. It was one hundred and fourteen kilos of fentanyl, a kilo of fentanyl, pills, one hundred and seventy nine kilos of methamphetamine and in a tractor trailer. So this was at a port of entry. This has become a contentious part of the discussion of bord of security. Reason line, Derek,

what's going on right now? How are the cartels getting stuff through the ports of entry? Okay, So first of all, Buck, let me just explain something with that fentinel seizure. The public must understand that one kilogram of fentanyl can kill five hundred thousand people. So it's been reported that this particular seizure could have killed fifty seven million people based

on the fact that two milligrams can kill an adult. Now, to answer you a question, I mean, obviously, the cartels are running a multi billion dollar enterprise and they're going to continue to blitch this country with their poison because there's a huge demand. So the country must focus on educating the public and the kids and everybody else regarding the dangers of these new chemicals. Because it's not like the old days where somebody smoke in some marijuana that

has a very low THHC contact. You're talking about synthetic drugs that are made in labs in China. And the other thing that the public doesn't realize is there's a very dangerous relationship growing between the Chinese organizations and the Mexican cartels. Now, the scary part, book, is the cartels all throughout a country. They're in every one of our cities.

They're in over fifty countries. So the Chinese not only are they making the chemicals to produce fent at all, but they also are sending toun quantities of precursors into Mexico to the ports. That's how they're making all this industrial quantities of meThe enemy. So you have a situation where as long as this demand, there's going to be ways to get it in the country. Now everyone talks about the southern border, but what people are not talking about is go back into the eighties with Miami and

the Caribbean islands. They already have opened up some of those smuggling routes. Book, because they're smart, they know the US government is focused on the Southwest border, so they're pushing people over through the Caribbean and drugs. But on your question regarding the port of entry, one of the things the public doesn't understand is if there was a wall, the wall itself is not going to stop drugs smuggling.

But what it's going to do is it's going to be able to focus resources from border patrol at the port of entries with the latest and greatest technology to screening. They can then do a better job and looking at every tractor trailer, every car, and they can do a much better job figuring out who these people are coming into our country. Right now, they're all over there. It's like the Wild West on the desert, I mean, on the on the border, and they can't keep up with it.

It's just too the magnitude is too high. So what should we be doing then? I mean, how you know you're telling me they're using different routes, are going back to the old kind of the old eighties Kane route right of through the Caribbean and then up into Florida. It feels like wherever we apply more research and this is a broader drug war question than just a border question.

But Fentonel killed over seventy thousand America, or I should say Opioid's killed over seventy thousand Americans last year and overdoses. Some percentage of that is obviously prescription drugs, which I know DEA has been cracking down on that too, and over prescribing of medications. A lot of it is illegal stuff. The cartels are making pills that look like pharmaceutical pills because it's an easier to sell them on the street.

So what do we do here? I mean, were you were involved in trying to trying to stop this scourge. Some people look at look at they say, you know, we just can't win this fight. What do you say? Okay? So I say, go talk to the parents that of burying their kids because of a dying of fentanyl. So you've got to continue to fight. Law enforcement is one

part of it. We have a much bigger problem. Unfortunately, after nine to eleven, our US government completely neglected the drug educationist is the commercials, they the role models from the public, you know, media and the sports. They should have been doing way more education to the kids in middle school and elementary school to get them understanding the dangers of the stuff. The kids unfortunately thought, you know, taking mommy's prescription out of the medicine cabinet was fine

because the doctor prescribed it. So there was the messaging was terrible, and unfortunately our country in Washington, they focus on the problem of the day instead of looking at long term strategies. They should have been educating the kids. Now we have like a runaway train, Buck, because we have a lot of catching up to do on the education side. But here's the thing. What nobody really talks about either, is that this is a very global issue.

So now like we were very involved with the HESBLA and the cocaine cartels in Mexico and the millions of dollars a month that we're making, U sending money out of the out of the US in the used car businesses to support Iran, to support HESBLA. So you know what, Buck, this is a much larger issue than people in Washington understand. You have terrorists increasingly turning to crime and criminal networks for their funding, and drug trafficking is generating four hundred

billion dollars a year according to the UN. So we have to do a better job with all our international partners. We have to do a better job internally. You know, Buck, I know this is no surprise to you because I know your background. But in America, we're still not sharing information across the agencies on these different threats. We have silos all over the place. We're losing leadership in different

government agencies that are not holding people accountable. So until we start doing some of that stuff and fixing the broken systems, you know, we're going to continue to have massive problems. Now, the good news is we have seen a lot better cooperation, We have seen some more successes. But honestly, Buck, because the demand is so high, the

cartels are going to just keep pumping it. So that's why I've been very vocal recently that I think at this point in our country's history, we need to seriously consider designating the cartels as terrorists. Because the State Department has some criteria, and I reviewed this criteria very closely, and I don't see anything in that criteria that would

prohibit prohibit the US of declaring them perish. If we declare them terrorists, then we can do a lot more with the US power that we have and some of the authorities that we have in the different agencies. This is not a law enforcement issue alone. Law enforcement has done a great job. They're out there working their butts off day in and day out the border patrol. They're very dedicated. They're not at home at their dinner table

with their family. But the thing is, Buck, we have a way more comprehensive problem, and unfortunately, the sad part is that the politics get in the way. They're get into play because it's it's not about, like you know, keeping people out of a country, it's about keeping people alive. We're speaking to Derek Maulty is a former agent in charge of DA Drug Enforcement Administration Special Operations Division. Derek is the Mexican government as serious as it needs to

be when it comes to fighting on the cartels. Buck, did you read the news yesterday? The president, the new president has basically said there is no war on drugs and he's no longer going to go let the military folks go after the bad guys. Now you know why that? Yeah? Sorry, go ahead, yes. So So basically, Buck, the successes we've had in Mexico is because of the brave marines that have gone out captured Chappo twice. They've killed or captured some of the high value targets for years for the

DBA and Homeland Security in Mexico. The problem is now this president is going to take them out of the fight. So guess what. Now we're back to the corrupt federal police. If you saw some of the testimony in the Chappo Guzman case, it's mind boggling. The levels of corruption at the president level, at the high level officials in the Mexican government. It's beyond what I even knew, Buck And honestly,

people say, oh, well, they're cooperatives, they're just making stuff up. No, they're not making it up because their stories are corroborated. And you know what, it's very very sad, and the country now has to re valuate how do we want to deal day to day with Mexico. I mean, there was some testimony in that federal court in New York about the Choppo trial, which you brought up, that suggested that the drug the drug cartel corruption in Mexico goes

all the way up to the very top of the government. Yeah. Allegedly, last Mexican president received one hundred million dollars from Chopo's organization, the Cineloo cartel. They wanted to he wanted two hundred and fifty million, but they settled on one hundred million. And there was some other really detailed testimony about some of the other high level officials. And you know what I've been hearing about. That's the years when I was

running a special operations division. We were helping to coordinate and synchronize the efforts of thirty different participating agencies around the world and around the country, and we used to always get, you know, compromised in Mexico. Like so even in the Choppo case, you know, I was, I was still on the job when we captured him the first time in February of twenty fourteen, after he escaped from his house in the sewer system and everything like that.

But what people don't realize, all the efforts to catch a chapel prior to that will compromise because the week's and the corruption and so you can't do this unless you have the cooperation from the law enforcement and the

leadership in these different countries. So we have to we have a serious complex challenge ahead to figure out how do we best deal with our neighbors on the southern border, because it's getting really, really difficult and then you look at all these caravans and these people coming from Honduras, and the MS thirteen and these other problems coming into our country, and then the financial bird into our citizens. It's really really scary. Is this one one more for you, Derek?

Is this is this the worst that the drug epidemic, any drug epidemic has been in this country? Well, from my opinion, yes, because here's why. Right now, the statistics are very misleading on the centinel and opioid desks. You know why because because nack Can is saving people every single day all over America. The first responders are a

ministering nack Can. Now people are going out to CBS in Walgreens and they're buying their own knock Can, so they're not dying from this stuff because they have this awesome medicine, this knock Can. But here's the thing. We have now a meth crisis that no one really is

even talking about in the national news. But like I said, China is sending chemicals to Mexican cartels and they're no longer producing one or two pounds at the time buck, They're producing hundreds and thousands, hundreds of pounds and then thousands of pounds. When I was a young agent, if he sees one pounds of meth in the country, it was a big case. Now there's season hundreds of pounds

of meths. It's just mind boggling and yes, to answer your question, in my view, it's so out of control, and it's partially to blame on a lot of people. But here's the bottom line. I don't want to blame the previous people. I want to make it better for the future. And right now we have a serious issue. People are just not focusing in on how significant. It's not a health issue, it's a national crisis. It's a

national security issue. Well that's why we got you here on the show, so we can get people here are the true and pay attention. Lurs are tapping into these funds buck every day. I know Derek Mault's former DA Special Operations Division chief. Derek really appreciate your time that day, sir, Thank you, Thank you. Keep up the good work, buddy, team, We'll be right back. Hiring can be really time consuming. You know you posed on a couple of different sites.

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It's very cold. It's brutal. It's the coldest I've ever been. I think the word cold is not a proper way to define it. It's just unbelievably cold, and it's hard to take a breath in, expecting my lungs a little bit. There's not enough flaes for this kind of cold unless you're prepared to go to the Arctic. That's pretty freezy. Nothing that I haven't been through before. But you know, it's all good. It's just part of living in Minnesota.

We like get called up here. I remember when I was in Alaska and I asked people in Anchorage, which I know, We've got a wonderful station up there in Anchorage right now. It carries the show. I remember I was up in Alaska and they heard from more than one person. I was like, how cold is it here in the winter. They said, well, it's not as cold as Minnesota. It turns out Minnesota is the coldest state in the country. But right now there's a whole bunch

of very very cold states. Producer Mike, what was the what was the record today? I know it got into like the negative negative thirty territory in some places. Is that the coldest I saw was negative thirty or thirty one in Chicago. In Rockford, Illinois, Yeah, this is where you know a couple of things here. First of all, oh yeah, here you go Rockford Illinois. We actually have

a little sound from that plicklip eight. Well, for starters, I want to give a shout out to Rockford, Illinois, which hit their all time cold record temperature according to the National Weather Service negative thirty last night. That record stood since nineteen eighty two. That's pretty cold. It was about ten degrees here in DC, and my walk home I could be like an idiot, left my gloves and in the wrong coat, and so when I walked home I could barely feel my hands. I thought it was funny.

There's some people decided that today was an opportunity to make some kind of a political statement of sorts over Well, you did have whereas it? Let's see, Elizabeth Warren, did we have? Yeah, here we go. Our children and grandchildren should grow up in a world where they can breathe the air and drink the water and go outside without risking their lives in extreme temperatures. It's time to protect our planet and pass a green new deal. Oh it's

really cold outside. Past my stupid socialist energy program that's going to make the country much poorer and much crappier. This is what libs do. I take advantage of every opportunity to push stupid ideas. But this was interesting. I wasn't expected, you know. I interviewed Governor Matt Baban and I don't know a few months back, and I thought he was very very slick fellow, very very polished, very smooth, and he decided to take an interesting approach to the

whole freeze freezing of America situation. I play clip one by the way, you'll be up. You'll be up late tonight with your kids because there's no school again. It's again, you know, now we cancel school for cold. I mean, it's deep freeze. A serious bit is come on now, I mean it. There's no ice going with it or any snow. I mean, what happens to America. We're getting soft terry, We're getting soft hosts a lot of money to heat those classrooms. Do you think they're not heating

them anyway? You would like to think so. As a taxpayer, we would like to think so. But again, I do appreciate it's it's better to air on the side of being safe and I and I'm being only slightly facetious, but it does concern me a little bit that in America on this and any number of other fronts. We're sending messages to our young people that if life is hard, you can curl up in the fetal position somewhere in a warm place and just wait till it stops being hard.

And that just isn't reality. Look at him, Yeah, exactly. Matt Devan is calling out people who don't want to go to school because it's too cold outside. If it were just a little cold, i'd understand. I think negative thirty though that probably that does make things a little bit harder. But I don't know. I mean, unless the travel is more dangerous and they can't and the heating system in the school can hill, which I'm sure it can. Maybe maybe he's got a point, Maybe he's onto something.

This reminds me also, if I think I mentioned recently on the show that I had read I recommended to my dad that he read Endurance about the Shackleton Voyage Ernest Shackleton's voyage to the Antarctic Antarctic continent, and the idea was that he was going to cross Antarctica on land. Never even got close spoiler alert, things go bad. And that book is one of these books where you gotta get into a little bit once you get into it, it's so messed up and so harsh and so surreal

what these guys go through. That it's a great it's a great eight book. And you're reading is like, man, wherever I am, I am so lucky not to be subsisting on seal blubber and trying to keep my toes from like actually breaking off because they're so frost bitten. You know. It's it was intense, man, that book. It's from I think nineteen fourteen was when they right right at the at the beginning of World War One is when they take off for this voyage. And it's a

timeless classic. It's a great book. I would really really recommend it to you. But that's all about you know, how long could you last living on an ice flow in arctic or antarctic temperatures? And the answer is you could last longer than you think, as long as you got a nice, good supply a whale blubber or seal blubber, which I'm currently trying to shed my seal blubber by eating a little healthier and getting the gym. But you know, as long as you got some of that, you're pretty

much good to go. Man, you can and and some shelter and some fire making ability, but not exactly fun fun. So read the Shackling Voyage and stay warm. If you're out there listening to to one of those colder parts the country, Stay warm, team. We'll be right back. Stray about that story up the Active Empire who was much attacked with racist and that I can tell you who's horrible. I've seen it last night. I think that's horrible. It

doesn't get worse as far as I'm concerned. So that was President Trump talking about this case that's gotten a fair amount of national media attention of this guy named Jesse Smollett. Now, in case you haven't heard of this before, let me tell you what's going on. You're Jesse Smollett was allegedly attacked around two am last Tuesday morning, and the story was that guys walked up to him. He said he was on the phone when he was attacked, and he was on the phone with his manager. I

never heard of this guy, just smaller before. But anyway, he's on the phone his manager. He says he's attacked. His manager corroborates this and he said that a guy or I'm sorry, two guys came up to him and placed a noose around his neck, and I guess they they punched him, he said. And there are two suspects where filmed in a different camera, sitting on a bench, but on opposite sides from where Small it was. Look

you read through the details. I can't. I don't want to read through the whole all of it right now, but you're read through the details, and it just is one of these cases where I can't tell you that this is a fraud, but I can tell you that

it is certainly suspect based on a few things. There is the possibility that I would have to come back on this show in a week and say, I guess there were two random guys who yelled Maga Nation and put and punched a guy and then put a loose noose that they happened to just carry around with them around his neck. That is possible. I cannot tell you there's no way that that happened. But what I can tell you, though, is that some of the fact pattern

here is a little bit suspicious. For example, the individual here, Jesse Smollett, was attacked at two am, but police were not called until two thirty five am and he was in his apartment, and I believe an associate that he was with called the police at two forty two, or rather officers arrived at two forty two, but his associate was with him, So there's quite a lag. Now you could say maybe he was he was shook up up and he was very, very concerned and rattled and all that. Again,

I can't tell you. I'm not saying he's lying. I don't know. I am saying this is a national news story, though, and there are some things that don't really add up. He also still had this rope noose. This actor he's from the show Empire, if some of you may be familiar with that show. He still had the noose around his neck when the police arrived, which also just strikes

me as as a very odd thing. If somebody forced a noose around your neck and assaulted you, and then you went home, would you just sit there with the noose around your neck for forty five minutes? I can't say impossible, but strikes me as very strange. And then also, and they have all the surveillance footage a police have gone through, and none of the surveillance footage shows any kind of assault taking place. A lot of surveillance cameras around where this happened, none of them show an assault

taking place, so that's interesting to me. And then one more thing here. Smallletts said that he was on the phone with his manager, Brandon z Moore, and the police said, okay, since you were on the phone with your manager during this incident, give us your phone just so we can verify as part of the story what you're saying here. This is this is standard police worker when you give them facts to work off of and then they want to verify those facts. Here's something that's very strange. Jessie

Smalllett wouldn't give the police his phone. Now, I'm sure that there are a lot of people that would want to come up with explanations for this, of maybe he had a privacy issue or something. But if you had been attacked and the police were verifying your story and they just wanted to look at your phone and your call log and see if it matched up with what you said, and then you didn't give the police your phone, I could tell you the cops would be pretty suspicious.

And we also know that in this country, the left has created an environment where if you are in a victim category and something happens to you, or you say something happens to you and it turns out to not be true, they will give you a pass for what they call raising awareness. Is this another hate crime hoax that will be covered up with raising awareness or is this a real, bizarre and terrible attack. I don't know,

but I can't tell you. I'm less confident in this being real than President Trump was when he answered that question the presser today. The show ain't over yet, folks. Here's where you take over keeping it real. Team Buck, It's time for roll Call. Roll Call. It is the time for the role of the call. Thank you all for writing in and being so helpful in this process, telling me what's going on with the show, what you like, what your thoughts are. Which eight for dinner last night?

John starts us off here, Facebook dot com, slash Buck Sexton. If you want in on roll call, John writes. Wednesday's reference was to animal Farm. John, you are correct, four legs good, two legs bad. That is from roll of that stuff from Roll Call. It's from Animal Farm, another masterpiece of the most What are the most important books

that a young person I think can read? And I mean nineteen eighty four is in a list of I think you could make of Maybe people would say one hundred books, but really ten books that you absolutely have to have read to have an understanding of the Western world. I think four is in that category, and certainly the contemporary Western World. And Animal Farm is a great book. And it's a quick read, so well worth. It's incredibly insightful about the nature of communism and authoritarianism, so it's

worth it to go back. It's a good weekend read. You'll you'll read the whole thing in a day, Dave writes, buck Shields High. To me, AOC's comments on the rich are even more disturbing than you suggested. Her anti billionaire stance boils down to one thing. She's anti individual liberty and self determination. Under her ideology, certain levels of success and accomplishment are simply not allowed, and no discussion about how much good someone could do with the billions they

create is considered. Being dumb enough to think bakers have an unfair share of pie is one thing, but this increasingly popular opinion on the left has graduated from pure ignorance to evil despotism, which touches on another topic from last night's show. Why does the left opposed Israel? It's simple because Christians are for it. Dave. As for your point about the popularity of the class warfare ideology of Ocazio Cortez and Warren and Bernie Sanders, I mean, it's

not like Occasio Cortes is the only one. This is something that people on the left, which means the Democratic Party increasingly believes it is disturbing. It is disturbing because it shows an ignorance of how our economy works, but also, I think a disregard for understanding. It's not just that they don't know, it's that they don't care that they don't know because it feels good. It feels good to

talk about how bad the billionaires are, right. It feels good for people to put themselves in a position where they can look down on those that they feel like have been looking down on them just because of their wealth or their status in society. And v is very powerful. I have been saying it for a long time. Envy is a very powerful political tool, really political weapon, and it is at the heart of the Democrat Democrat coalition and their project for retaking the White House. Adam writes,

the reference was animal farm shields high. All right, Adam, you got it too, Well done, sir, well done, Philip Shield tabuck. The push for acceptance of ultra late term abortions is merely to desensitize us too evil. Over time, more and more vile things will be considered normal until such time as cannibalism is no longer taboo, and just when the food runs out soylent green phill in Montana, Philip, we have been desensitized. I think that's obviously and clearly

the case. We have been desensitized when it comes to babies and what's being done to babies, the stuff that was not just under discussion, that was being proposed as law in Virginia and is law in New York State. It is in infanticide. We have to call things what they are. And this reminds me why I get so agitated and so obstinate on calling people who are men

women and using the wrong pronouns. I don't like and I'm not okay with, and will not go along with the embrace of falsehood, even simple falsehoods, even simple falsehoods. You know, this is something in a in a totalitarian society, one of one of the marks of a totalitarian society is that everybody just to avoid, just to avoid the possibility of reprisals from the state against them, they don't just say things that are big things that are untrue.

They start to say little things that are untrue as well, meaning that they'll just say whatever the regime tells them about everything. You know, your shoelaces are the best shoelaces anyone's ever made in the world. And people start walking around saying, yes, my shoelaces are the best shoelaces, not because they believe it, because they're afraid if they don't say it, they'll get in trouble. So that's something that

I think that this reminds me of you. You give up a part of yourself, You give up something very important in your core when you're willing to say things are true that are not true and essentially embrace some kind of alternate reality because people in the power structure tell you too. So, Mike writes, as a former quarreling, I believe Robert McCoy would be a valuable resource for you on North and South Korea. Here's his latest publication, all Right, I've never I've never heard of this guy,

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iHeart app All right, there you go. Um. Jim rights a collar to Mark Levin just before you came on and said this is nothing less than human sacrifice to Satan and paganism. I used to live in Annandale, Virginia, and I was born in Long Island, New York. I'm surprised about Virginia. Jim. It's it's a horrible thing that

they're doing. And I will say I appreciate that this audience from what I'm gathering at the feedback, I know that talking about a boor shit and these issues is heavy and that people everyone's got enough of a burden to carry with their day to day and I want them to come to this show and know they're gonna learn stuff, but they're also going to be able to

relax a bit. I mean, we talked about's important and there's some degree of an intellectual mobilization that we do here every day together but I also don't want people to get sad or too bummed out listening to any part of the show that said some things are too important and we just got to do it, And yesterday I thought was one of them. So the sense I'm getting from any of you is that you understood that, and you appreciate that, and I always try to balance

it out as best as I can. Karen's hey, Buck, the news today of your podcast is truly disturbing. The infanticide issues right up there with people who used to burn their babies in the arms of Baal and the reason the children of Israel ended up going into slavery. We need to remember that as Christians and as a Christian nation, are we truly willing to sacrifice ourselves? Truly scary? I guess Obama's right. We are into Christian nation. Karen, Well, Karen,

don't give up quite yet. This country is still an amazing place and it is still a predominantly Christian place, and it is too it's great benefit that that is the case. So let's just hope that we can keep fighting back in and do what is do. It is right not just for our country but for God as well. Oh, I'm gonna close up shopping the Hut tonight. Team with that, I will talk to you tomorrow from ny See until

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