Worst Presidential Debate Ever

no mistake American, you're a great American. Again the Buck Sexton Show begins. Remember he's a great guy. No, I think that Donald Trump thinks it would be better if he's a president. I do not think so. Vladimitt Plutin thinks that Donald Trumps should be president. On in state, and that's why Russia is helping you get Welcome to the Buck s Exit Show, everybody. It was great last night. Man, it was like it was like watching two guys at

the retirement home and be like, I'm running Bingo tonight. No, I'm running Bingo tonight. Bloomberg and Bernie getting after it right there, right off the top. Bloomberg with a with a low blow on Russia wants you to win the bus. Look, I'll tell you, I challenge you to a I was gonna say arm wrestling contest, but I don't know who would win that one. Something they'd have to figure it out. So I did my duty last night, team. I watched and live tweeted the debate, lighting it up obviously on

the on the Twitter. I should post some of it today to a Facebook as well, Facebook dot com slash buck Sex and if you do not already follow me there, it's a great way to communicate with me and the rest of the team and producer Mark Brucer. Mark is in there all the time defending the honor of the Avengers franchise. I would also say that last night was the biggest waste of two hours that I think I've had in many ways since watching the first two hours

of The Avengers. But I will go back and watch the third hour, which I didn't even realize existed because I bailed. Here's what you need to know about the debate last night, and then we'll get into some of the specific There were some policy moments here and there, but here's what you really need to know. First of all, it's a total debacle. These networks are not able to put on what they think they can, which is a high standard journalistically superior event where we get into all

the issues. These are TV journalists, I mean, they're they're completely replaceable. A lot of them don't even know really anything about politics and CBS. It was a total mess last night, an absolute mess. In fact, if CBS's plan was to run a debate so poorly that all the candidates on stage by comparison looked competent, mission accomplished, CBS.

You can watch the debate last night, you would have said to yourself, well, these Democrats probably run things better than the people that are running this debate, that's for sure. It was really overall very JV. The moderators were weak, their questions were bad. It's a reminder that really what they should do. I mean, I think we should do this like an all star game in some of the

sports leagues. We should have people vote. You know, there should be some kind of an online poll or some some polling company for who in the media space should be the moderators, and we should do an open vote. I mean, I think that's or at least, you know, you could do it. Of I don't know, Democrats for their prime or whatever it is. But you should then also allow it to be streamed by all the networks. There shouldn't be this one network at a time thing.

It shows favoritism. I mean, the fact that Fox doesn't get a Democratic debate just shows what a bunch of whimps the Democrats are. It would be an excellent debate, I promise you, and it would have huge ratings, and they have Martha McCallum and Brett bar and probably Chris Wallace. I mean, I already already know who the moderators for Democrat debate would be, and they would do an excellent job. They would ask questions that aren't unfair. They would ask

real questions. Last night was just nonsense, a lot of wokeness questions. Who's the most woke on the stage, who can tell us how they're going to do the most for you know, minority candidates, even though Joe Biden, by the way, constantly tells us that he has done so much in his career for minority not minority candid's for minority voters. You ask him for the specifics, and all of a sudden he gets very hazy. You asked him for the specifics, and it starts to fall apart. Joe Biden.

I was hoping last night somebody would say something about the MCNA carta, just so Biden could start with I wrote, I wrote that bill because that's what he says about everything. I wrote the dang bill. He really didn't. Biden that he has been the great hope of the establishment tells you all you need to know about the state of the Democrat establishment right now. Tells you a whole lot. Here was some of the I mean, look, I wish

I could drill down on the major takeaway. I'd like to start whenever we have these discussions team about a debate like this, I like to start with a thirty thousand foot view and then drill down in the specifics. The thirty thousand foot view is that the Democrats are crazy and that their party has completely gone off the rails, that they have unimpressive candidates, that they have policy proposals that will not work, that they're not operating in the

realm of reality or math. They don't care about what we have learned as a country from history, and they didn't reassure anyone last night. Who if you had questions about these Democrats last night, if you had any concerns about their competent, see in their ability to do what is necessary here last night did not make you feel any better about any of that. Here, for example, is I mean, just to give you I'm saying they're silly. I'm saying they're crazy. Well, let me give you some

examples of this. Joe Biden talking about gun control. They got to bring up gun control of Democrat debate, even though nothing ever happens. It's just a waste of everyone's time. States are blue. States are engaged in gun control grabs at the federal level. It's been decades. Right, Here's what Biden says. Here's his contribution. Mister, I wrote the bill.

He has to yell at play three. One hundred and fifty million people have been killed since two thousand and seven, when Bernie voted to exempt the gun manufacture some liability, more than all the wars, including Vietnam, from that point on. You heard that right, one hundred and fifty million people,

He says, he didn't stumble. It wasn't a misspe. It was an one hundred and fifty million, I mean a thousand, No, one hundred and fifty million people, half the population of the United States, according to Joe Biden, have died in gun violence incidents since the year two thousand and seven. Does he not hear himself? Is he just so robotic in the memorization of canned phrases? And has he been just so trained by handlers and speech writers that he doesn't even think about the words that come out of

his mouth. I'm not am I being unfair? Would you go on TV if you were trying to be the leader of the free world and say, you know, thirty thirty thirty billion people a year die in car accidents in this country and then just let that hang out there? You probably I mean thirty I think by it might even be fifty, you know, I think thirty thousand's about right. Thirty thousand people something like that die in auto related accidents every year in the United States. Maybe maybe it's

twenty to thirty thousand. If you said thirty billion, though, I feel like you'd probably correct yourself. We are judging these people. They want a tremendous amount of power. They want power over your lives. They want to be making decisions that will affect the economy, that will affect your children's future, we should be willing to judge them harshly. Joe Biden's too old for this. Bernie Sanders is too old for this. Mike Bloomberg is too old for this.

Elizabeth Warren too old for this. And yeah, here we are. And you'd say, oh, buck, but what about Trump. Trump is a dynamo Trump, you know, rally after rally. I mean, he's one of the most engaging, energetic public not public, you know speakers, public performers I've ever seen. They didn't really think that Trump is lacking a step these days. Does he just mumble and meander off into into nothing? No, they say, oh, he lies, he exaggerates. He's a salesman,

but he's a salesman who gets the deal done. He doesn't forget where he is. He doesn't forget what you don't forget what what his job is. So Biden had a night where also, I don't know why he thinks it's a good idea to shout. So let me tell you this. I wrote the bill, and I did my whole life, my whole life, everything with Joe Biden starts my whole life, my whole career. I wrote that I did that. This guy is such a poser. It didn't

He didn't do these things. He's just another senator who was voting or his staff, you know, added a paragraph to some bill past twenty years ago or something. Joe Biden's not a leader. And all this talk about how he's vice president. I mean, let's be honest, vice president stretching back to the very first vice president in the United States history. Joy, don't tell it, Gentley, don't do all that much. We know this, but Biden's shouting about how he does so much all the time. It's it's

simply absurd. But if we're going to talk really observed, we could get into Bernie Sanders on the numbers. This was remarkable. The Medicare for all is the primary policy proposal of Bernie Sanders. I would note his other policy proposals are also far left, and that he is, and people are increasingly waking up to this, a Marxist. He is a Marxists. It's not a Denmark style European you know,

big government socialist. He's actually further left than they are on a whole bunch of issues, on all really the important issues. And but what do we even what do we even think a Bernie Sanders foreign policy would look like? Do we even know? Of course not, But you had Bernie when pushed on the cost, and he gets all flustered about this, as if it shouldn't matter what the cost is. When Bernie is pushed on this issue, he

makes up numbers. No, the same way that Biden should not be able, it should not be able to come out of Joe Biden's mouth that one hundred and fifty million people in the last decade or so have died in gun violence in America. That's crazy talk. This is also crazy talk from Bernie Sanders play clip aid producer Mark. What the Health in Human Services have said in analyzing healthcare costs, what Yale recent Yale study has said is that your program would cost some fifty trillion dollars over

a ten year period. We would continue to pay, in some cases ten times more for the same exact prescription drugs. What every study out there, conservative or progressive says, Medicare for all will save money as will cost about forty five billion, not sixty trillion. That's right. This is the proverbial chocolate cake that will not make you fat eat as much of it as you want. There's enough for everybody, it will never run out, and you don't have the

painting for it. That's what Bernie Sanders is offering. Does anyone who is an adult who really thinks about this believe what Bernie Sanders is saying. It's going to save money to give every American the same healthcare. That's what would have Medicare for All means we're all in the same healthcare plan all of a sudden, which would de

facto turn all healthcare providers into government employees. You know why, the government's going to determine what the reimbursement rates are for Medicare for All, So the government's going to decide who's getting money in the healthcare system all of a sudden.

You know, your hope that if you have to have heart surger or if you have to go get cancer treatment, and you're gonna go see you know, that's the point in life where you want the guy with all the fancy degrees in the orgal with all the fancy degrees in the wall, and you know, decades of experience and they're like a superstar in the field and whatever, you know, whatever you gotta do to get that treatment. If your life is on the line, No, now you're gonna go in.

It'll be like a glorified DMV employee telling you, yeah, I don't know, maybe you've got any biotic resistant bacteria, but you know, maybe it's maybe it's something else. I don't know. To go to CBS. Here's a prescription. See you later. You had your three minutes are up? Yeah, I mean it'll be it'll be free, but that's what you're looking at. And sure, if you have an ear infection or you have strep throat, it might be really nice.

You get to go to the local government doctor and you know you'll wait about two or three hours in the waiting room, but then you know you'll you'll get your prescription. But if you if you have chronic back pain desperately need to have some kind of spinal surgery or something, you know, the government I'm sure will give

you really excellent pain meds. Hopefully you won't become addicted, and you know it'll ruin your life, but they'll they'll prescribe you in the three minute visit that you're offered by this Medicare for All program that will now be the healthcare for the entire country. They'll give you that prescription for painkillers, and you know, you'll wait six to nine months before you have a surgery where also what happens if it goes wrong, you're gonna sue that. You're

gonna sue the government. Everyone's gonna want to see the government. Now that government's got endless, endless pockets. Right, the pockets of the government are deeper than anybody else's. They can print money, So they're gonna have to institute toward reform, but it will be the bad kind of towart reform because it'll effectively be what prosecutors have in this country,

which is a which is qualified immunity. So doctors that are going to be operating on you because the government's going to be the one on the hook for you know, whatever it is that you're suing them for, because the government's going to be the one determining the procedures. The government's gonna be the ones that are setting the reimbursement rates.

You know, that's guess what they're gonna say. Now, you can't keep suiting because they're gonna otherwise you'll just sue doctors out of existence all over the place and there won't be able to be a market increase in premium rates for insurance because that's not even gonna matter anymore, because doctors won't be able to charge you different fees for different different fees based on their skill and their

service level. I mean, I know that we're just we're just skating around the surface of this disaster right now. I mean, I could spend the whole show just talking about all the ways that this is a terrible idea. And whenever he brings up Canada, whenever he brings up the UK, he brings up these other countries. Yeah, they also have very large private healthcare systems and that's where the rich people go and they really need it. And do we want the Canadian economy or do we want

the American economy? Which country is more the engine of wealth and with wealth, freedom and prosperity not just for its own people, but for the rest of the world. Canadians are lovely people. I'm very fond of them. Canada is not a world leader or anything except having water, freshwater. It's true. So what exact and probably polar bears bears, what are we really thinking we're going to accomplish here?

Bernie Sanders is saying this is going to cost forty five billion dollars, really giving everybody the right to go in buy law and say, hey, treat me. I'm here, make my medical problems go away. You got no skin in the game. No copay, no nothing, because it is Medicare for all proposal, no co pays, no caut sharing. This destroys individual individual ingenuity. It destroys any sense of a market based healthcare system. It's a disaster. I promise you, look, I would love it if I could see the best

doctors and never pay for healthcare. I have health insurance. I try to go to the doctors as infrequently as possible because our medical system is already largely ruined by regulations written by people like Bernie Sanders. You always hear about how you know, public school teachers, all the teachers unions.

Your teachers just want to teach. Yeah, doctors actually do want to heal people, but they spend all their time fending off lawsuits, doing paperwork, and dealing with the bureaucracy because the bureaucracy keeps trying to tell them how to do medicine. Because people say, oh, I just I want the state to take care of me and keep me safe and warm at night. The state doesn't do that, that'll do other things to you at night. It won't keep you safe and warm. You're in the freedom hunt.

This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. I will say it's kind of fun to do the debates these days because all the conservatives bad. We just sit back and it is listening to these democrats. It is like a mystery science theater vibe when you sit there and hear the crazy stuff that they're saying, and you get other at all the conservatives I know in media who who are reasonably insightful and clever. We're all just trying to how do one another all the time with pointing out

the absurdity that is on display. And I've got to imagine there are a lot of a lot of real intelligent Democrats sitting at home who got to be watching these debates saying, oh my gosh, what what the heck is going on here? What are we doing? What is happening with our party? This is crazy because from my side of it, as much as I kind of weep for the country as a political analyst and at a radio host, this year is manufik. It is fantastic, It

really is. I I guess that would be fantastique as well. It's great man. Maybe he's Democrats. They're giving me plenty of material, that is for sure. Thanks for listening to the Bus Sesson Show podcasts. Remember to subscribe on Apple podcasts, the iHeartRadio app, or wherever you get your podcasts. But on this issue of the potential political peril you could you and Democrats can suffer. In Florida, Congressman Donna Chealelis said, come on down to Miami and meet with the people

who have been affected by his regime. Would you be willing to do that? And hear them out? Go I go all over the country. Of course, Shuber, here is a dictatorship. I've said that eighty million clients. But that does not mean to say as a Bomber pointed out that even under a dictatorship, you could teach people to read and to write, that you could provide healthcare to old people. He just doubles down on this because he's

a Marxist, triples down. He won't back off this. He will not accept that it is unacceptable to pick out one minute area of how a regime operated and highlight that, elevate that as something that we need to hear. Yeah, of course a dictatorship can teach some people to read. Of course a dictatorship can feed some people. You know, Totalitarian regimes don't want to eliminate all of their subjects, right, They don't want to kill everybody because they don't have

a country anymore. But they enslave everybody psychologically and physically, and they destroy freedom. And freedom is an athema to a dictatorship, but as an athema to authoritarianism. And Bernie Sanders is not making anybody who is concerned about his totalitarian impulses feel any better. I've read to you about what the Cuban regime was like in the sixties and the seventies. They've repudiated none of it. By the way, the Cuban government is still a totalitarian kleptocracy of thugs.

Quite honestly, in a just world, you know, we would send down the eighty second. I'm not saying we should do this, but if we were really just seeking justice, you would send down the eighty second airborne and you would have trials once we had rounded all of the Cuban leadership up, you would have trials for war crimes, and a lot of them would end up at the end of a rope or firing squad, whatever we preferred. The Cuban government is full of murderous, brutal fucks, far worse,

far worse. By the way, you know, we hear so much about about Putin and partisan who's no friend of Putin than Putin such a bad guy. Putin legitimately and I know we've gotten this whole Russia collusion insanity to the point now where you can't even have a normal discussion about Russia. The Soviet Union, Yeah, obviously enslave hundreds of millions of people murdered, millions, tens of millions of

people of sovieting a different story. Russia. Yeah, Putin is effectively an authoritarian, no question, Although Mike Bloomberg has questions about authoritary in China. Will get to that. But if you were to look at Russian public support for Putin, it's high people in Russia and I and you will not hear there's some other other people in this country generally because we're all, oh, Putin is the worst. Yeah, Putin's a bad guy. He's essentially KGB slash Russian mafia

running the country. So if we had somebody who was ex intel, if I were, this is kind of cool. Actually sounds like a good good book. If I were to have joined some organized crime family and ran it and then I became the president of the United States, that would be something like and see's total control. That's

that's effectively what's going on in Russia. But Putin has also presided over what the Russian people believe is a restoration of Russian international dignity after I mean, it was very sad for them for a long time to be after the fall of the Wall, completely impoverished and felt like they're everything. You know, their world was in free fall.

There was a lack of a feeling of dignity among the Russian people in the nineteen nineties when okay, now they've got freedom, but they don't have and they don't have an economy to speak of. Putin has presided over the creation of a Russian middle class. Again. See now people say, oh, Buggy are doing what Bernie does about about Cuba. No, Putin is not nearly as bad as Castro and the Castro regime. And you know, Raoul Castro

has done things. I mean, the Castros are responsible for the kind of war crimes, as I said, where we should if we could round them up and have them executed, and that would be fair, that would be just. Now you might say Putin probably should spend a lot of time in prison. He's definitely had journalists executed. You know, he's bad, but he's not He's not as bad but Bernie Sanders. Because the Democratic Party right now has gotten so you know, utterly and completely wrapped up in this

Russia collusion. It's they believe this no matter what the evidence, no matter what we can provide them with. Putin is really really bad and a scary man. But you know, he'll say nice things about Cuba, which is which is all I'm trying to say, is that the Cuban regime is worse than Putin's government. If you look at the totality of what has gone on, right I think the Cuban regime is in a different category. Putin is bad. But people don't want to hear about what's really going

on in Russia. They just prefer to think of it as the biggest threat to the United States. Because Hillary Clinton lost the twenty sixteen election, China is a much bigger threat to America as we know. But Bernie Sanders, I sit here and I wonder what has befallen this country and how we could have reached a point where Bernie Sanders is even a serious consideration for any higher office.

I mean, I think Vermont should be a little bit embarrassed, quite honestly, that this has been the senator that they've had for so many years, and he was their only congressman for a number of years before that. Bernie, of course, has the usual Marxist claptrap about bringing working people back into the Democratic Party. Play clip six producer mark my favorability naturally, I believe on the highest up here is

a matter of fact, all right. But the point is, the point is the way we are gonna be Trump, which is what everybody Appia wants, is we need a campaign of energy and excitement. We need to have the largest vote to turn out in the history of the United States. We need to bring working people back into the Democratic Party. We need to get young people voting in a way they have never done before. That is what our campaign is about. He's a Marxist, He's mobilizing

the youth who don't understand very much about politics. Let's be honest and claiming that he's going to do so much to help workers. You know who workers work for. Corporations, people who have enough assets on their own to have businesses where they hire people, and yes, even people in this country who are billionaires. That is who workers work for. Do we really think that they will be better off with Bernie Sanders determining that all of their bosses are

bad people who don't know what they're doing. There's a very clear choice that has emerged for Democrats between Sanders and Bloomberg. This is the the far left of the party versus the more technocratic, such as it is, democrat, elitist, limousine liberal wing of the party. And I think you gotta figure right now, Bernie Sanders side of this is

going to be the one that ends up victorious. In fact, Bloomberg thought that by entering into this contest, he may prevent he may actually stop Bernie Sanders from becoming the nominee when you look at the numbers in some of these states, because he's taking a lot of what you'd have to assume or Biden votes. I think that's what Bloomberg is really peeling off. He may be the reason that Bernie Sanders marches to the nomination, and that should

be something that concerns all of us. I said to you yesterday, and I think some people were a little surprised, and I shared this publicly on Twitter as well. Bernie Sanders is not even a smart socialist. I really stand behind that. I don't think Bernie Sanders is a smart socialist. There are people who I know who are of the left, who are learned, They've read a lot, They're very smart.

They can make sophisticated arguments about socialism. They're wrong, but they can make sophisticated arguments and they can anticipate where the other side is going. There's not a lot of them because the primary motivation behind the primary among the primary motivations I should say, behind Marxism and socialist thought, it's the replacement of God of God with the state. It's also giving people a reason and it gives them a sense of empowerment. It gives them an argument for

why they're on the side of good. So it really is it's a pseudoscience. Marxism is pseudoscience. They always pretend that there's that they can just look at this on a board and add up how, you know, the arc of history and the transition from capitalism into socialism and the revolution of the proletariat and I mean all this, you know, dictatorship of the proletariat and a revolution that would bring it about. They think that they can look at this on a board and bring it all about.

But that's nonsense, right, It's pseudoscience. It always has been, and it really is a religious replacement before it is an economic replacement. The economic arguments are just a means of mobilizing people in support of this secular religion, if you will. That's what Marxism really is all about. Which when you start to line this up with Bernie Sanders, doesn't it all makes sense now? You know the social justice component of everything that he says. You know, it's

not fair that some people have more than others. That is a fundamental central thought for Bernie Sanders and for Marxists for as long as this has been a theory. It's just not fair. And if we have to pull down people who have more so that people who have less feel better, and we'll call that justice. We're willing to do that, but to do that, you always have to use a very heavy hand of government. You have to empower the state well beyond what the founders had

in mind in this country. And that's why Bernie Sanders is in fact fundamentally Unamerican in his beliefs. Is this is the big problem that the Democrats face. This is why putting a socialist forward as your primary candidate's going to be an issue that I think will continue to come back and haunt them long afterwards. Bernie Sanders, of course claims that he is not radical. Play a play nineteen producer mark misconception, and you're hearing it here tonight.

This is the ideas I'm talking about a radical. They're not in one form or another. They exist in countries all over the world. Healthcare is a human right. We have the necessity, the moral imperative to address the existential threat of climate change. Of the countries are doing that. We don't need more people in jail. This proportionally African American than any other country on Earth. Not a radical idea. All countries are different, Bernie. They have different histories, different

rule of law, different individual freedom. I mean, what is he even saying? This sounds good? This sounds good because he's a demagogue. I mean, he's a guy who spread his whole life just repeating the stuff. Any of this is people in college they read some Gnam Chomsky and America is not so great. It's actually pretty terrible. And look at all these other great countries. Forget about the bad stuff that they've done. I mean, this is really just a moral relativism that the people that adopt this

think elevates them. And I've always said this that conservatives just patriots. We could say that patriots take a tremendous pride in being American. The left in this country has always taken pride in thinking that they're better than America, and that informs a lot of their thinking, a lot of the approaches that they take on policy issues, particularly

on foreign policy, but on policy issues more broadly. His ideas aren't radical, then why has the Democratic Party adamantly refused to adopt them for the last oh, I don't know, fifty years or so, let's just say whenever it has come up, and it's been coming up longer than that. You know, there was an American Communist Party USA CPUSA

was a real thing. There were socialists in this country, stretching back to the rise of socialism in Europe, right, And there's a whole history that don't teach in school.

People don't learn about this. They don't understand that there were not just communist infiltrations during the Soviet era of the United States and of the United States government, but there were journalists and academics and even politicians in America who were well known who were open socialists and felt a tremendous kinship to the great socialist power that was

the Soviet Union. But that was a real fight. I mean, we have been having this debate stretching back to really the fall of monarchies in Europe and the fall of the old and the Ncien regime, if you will, the old order of things. After the First World War, you had the Soviet Revolution nineteen seventeen October Revolution. All of a sudden, the Soviet Union adopts and there's a very

complicated series of processes that led to this. But the Soviet Union becomes the primary socialist power in the world. Remember the United Soviet Socialist Republics right USSR. People always seemed to forget about this socialism. Then we throw the communism label around with the Soviets. The Soviets thought of themselves as socialists, and communism is just a flavor, it's just a branch of socialism. It has to do with

the implementation of it, the ideas, the values. You know, Lenin, I've told you the original, the very first Soviets in the in the form of Lenin and Stalin. Joseph Jugashvili called himself Coba in the early days, which I always thought was interesting, and if you've watched Planet of the Apes, that's why the main bad guy Ape in Planet of the Apes Coba. It's a homage I think to Stalin and the rise of authoritarianism. And then referred to himself in a letter as Stalin men of steel in Russian.

But they thought of themselves as social democrats. That's what they called themselves. So you'll see that they keep changing the terms they keep but ultimately that that foundation of pseudoscience rooted in envy. I mean that is that is that the way that Marxism is built. Bernie Sanders believes in that. Bernie Sanders is somebody who has always believed in that, and he is appealing to a very dark

part of human nature. That instead of trying to allow people to elevate themselves and encourage everyone to elevate themselves and put in place the best possible system to do that, Bernie Sanders wants to go around like that game that we've all played with the mallet, where you hit the gophers on the head. You know, too much money. Billionaire Boom hit him with the mallet. Too much money. Millionaire Boom hit him with the mallet. That's the guy who wants to be the next leader of the free world.

I think that's a bad idea. You're in the freedom hunt. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. But it's easier to make when that Democratic candidate embraces the title of socialists and doesn't refute it. And the truth of the matter is Bernie Sanders is not a socialist. I mean, if you look at up in the dictionary, he's not calling for, you know, the society own the means of production and all of that stuff. Ah, here we go. What have I've been telling you? David Axeot over at

CNN doing what we knew they would do. I mean, he's not really a social it's not really socialism. He calls himself on a socialist. This reminds me of Democrats with the Islamic state. It's not Islamic and it's not a state. I don't think they get to determine that on behalf of isis everyone obambi he's doing sist in calling it an isol It was just pedantry. It was ridiculous. It was a pedantic, nonsense move. This is socialism, folks.

Bernie Sanders is a socialist. You don't get to say we want Denmark style socialism and then say, oh, but we're not really socialists. They just keep changing the definition. In fact, we already have a fair amount of socialism in America. That's part of the problem. The public school system is in fact a form of socialism. Medicare is a form of socialism. And you start looking a lot of these programs, folks, they are socialized components of the

US economy. And I just have to though. They're gonna try everything, including a guy who gets up every day and screams in microphones, Oh, I'm a democratic socialist. You're gonna have the media apparatus be like, I mean, he's not really a socialist though, I mean, you know what I mean. He's gonna say all that stuff, But he's not really a socialist. Oh no, he is. He is most certainly a socialist. So let's all just put that in our pipe and smoke it as we determined who

we're going to vote for this election. Thanks for listening to the Bus Sesson Show podcast. Remember to subscribe on Apple podcast, the iHeart Radio app, or wherever you get your podcasts. It was thirtie and it was seventeen. That's an incredible shrinking price. Tech at some point has said is it is unknowable to even see what the price tech would be. Now they're a new numbers card. I'll tell you exactly what it adds up to. It adds

up to four more years of Donald Trump. Kevin McCarthy is a Speaker of the House and the inability to get the Senate into Democratic hands. The time has come for us to stop acting like the presidency is the only office that matters. Not only is this a way to get Donald Trump reelected, you got a House to Worria, you got a Senate to Warrior, and this is this

is really important. Look, if you want to keep the House in Democratic handcer, you might want to check with the people who actually turned the House Blue forty Democrats who are not running on your platform. They are running away from your platform as fast as they possibly can. Mayor Pete scoring a big hit there last night. Now, Mayor Pete's not going to be president. I don't even think he's really a serious vice presidential candidate, but he

is now going to be. He's a Democrat figure that you will see and hear more of in the years, probably in the decades ahead. His point about Bernie Sanders in the damage that will be done to down ballot candidates is a serious one. That's a that's a real consideration. Democrats would be wise to pay some attention to what he is saying here, but I don't think that they really will. Mayor Pete also he thinks that every time I'm he has an opportunity to speak, it has to

be a speech, and he's wrong about that. You can just speak like a normal person, doesn't have to always be well when we bring together the country and unite in the glory of a wonderful future of hope and thinking about how we can do that uniting and hope and things, and you just be like, no, man, I didn't like the movie, you know, what I mean, you can just you can just respond like a normal person.

It is one of the things that we take for granted about Trump that he has broken down the old established format of you have to speak to people when you're a politician like you're some weird political robot who's not a normal person. You have to use these canned phrases and everything has to be bringing it back to, you know, your key talking point. Now you can also just be like, yeah, you know, I like cheeseburgers. You can do that as a politician. You're allowed to do

that now. Or you can say, yeah, that guy in the back who works for seeing An he's a jerk. You're allowed to do that. You're allowed to speak the way that people speak, which I think is a great innovation. You know, the president when he does as stated he address me, there are times when the presentation should have a little more pomp and circumstance around it. But as a general matter, I prefer having a president who is just going to talk the way that people talk. And

that's a new that's a new thing to be sure. Now, oh wait, before before I well, there's the other Democrats out there, including from the Obama administration that I think are watching this and recognizing what's going to happen. Bernie Sanders is a huge risk, to be sure, for the Democrat Party because if if Biden runs against Trump and loses, you will have essentially the Democrat Party making the same arguments in the next election. And you know, just they

hate Trump, Russia, Trump's corrupt, all the same stuff. If Bernie Sanders loses, they're going to have no one to blame but themselves for running a crazy candidate on a crazy platform. So there's additional risk for running Bernie versus anyone else against Trump. Even Elizabeth Warren Causa Lush her birth warrens Or as much as she was ready to go, she was on the war path against Bloomberg and the last debate, and this time she wanted to tell she

thinks she's folksy and relatable. The reality of Elizabeth Warren is that she is sanctimonious and condescending to all normal Americans who understand that, which is why she does so well with the media but does not do well outside of the bluest blue coastal corridors, because when she does the whole you know, my daddy was my daddy was a coal miner, or it wasn't a coal mine or whatever it was. My my daddy was a male. Now

that's well, she always talks about her daddy. I forget what it was like, a truck driver or something, you know, a normal person job, you know, a respectable job. But she tells this story because it was Kasick. Who everything was? You know, you know my dad was a mailman. Okay, we get it. We've heard it a million times. Who kai among the most surly and uncharismatic politicians I've ever had the misfortune of interviewing. I will tell you I was not not a Kasick person at all, never was,

never will be. But holiciap with Warren. She tells the story of bringing herself up in Ohio. I'm my ma Cherokee heritage and in the Midwest. And let me keep in mind, she ran to the Democrat power structure as fast as she could, lied about who she was to get in there, and lied about who she was to get at the University of Pennsylvania and Ivy League school and then get into Harvard I mean teach at Harvard Law. Now she's worth like seven to ten million dollars she's Oh,

but I'm just I'm just like you. It's a total fraud. It's total phony. Pretends to care so much about Main Street and the big Wall Street banks. She's really she didn't have anything particularly worthwhile to say last night. I think she had a bad as the debate when she had a bad night. M but oh Pete boodha judge, I want to get back to him for a second. See, we were trying to break this down for you. He

had another look. He is a guy who sounds like he's always in the midst of his McKinsey consulting interview, and he did it. There was a moment last night where they asked for the greatest misconception about you, and it was like Mayor Pete's version was you know that I'm too unflappable. That's like when someone asks you at a job interview, priest of Mark, you ever done this? So I'm never asked you. But first was a stupid question. So the people who ask this in job interview somebody

should you know, smack him upside the head. But people still do. Have you ever had the what's your biggest weakness? In a job interview question? You ask me that No, I didn't. I know he didn't know I was about I was about to flip this table and lose my mind. I would never ask that question. I've gotten that question. Yeah,

did you remember what you said? Don't? It's the dumbest question in the world, because it's sort of like being on a first date, which you know, there's similarities between a first date and a job interview in terms of your pre you're presenting, you're being judged. Feel like on a first date if a girl was just like, you know, what's the worst thing about you answer that question? You

gotta find that out, o games. I'm trying to hide that, yeah, exactly, and you'll figure it out on your own, there, sweetness, you know like it doesn't it doesn't need to be told upfront. But because I've got I'll love the the usual way people do this, as they say, Um, I take too much work on I share the credit too fast, like work too hard? These humble brags. I'm sure, Yeah, Mayor I worked too hard. I make other people look back because I work too hard, and then I feel

guilty about it. Mayor, Pete, are those I'm too unflappable? I'm I'm too cool under pressure, you know. But he was right about one thing, which is that if you're talking about what Russia is trying to accomplish in this election, sewing chaos is definitely very high on the list. Play play twenty one please, I'll tell you what the Russians want. They don't have a political party. They want chaos, and

chaos is what is coming our way. I mean, look, if you think the last four years has been chaotic, divisive, toxic, exhausting, imagine spending the better part of twenty twenty with Bernie Sanders versus Donald Trump. Think about what that will be like for this country. And meanwhile, folks at home, from South Carolina to South Bend are trying to figure out

what any of this means for us. Because it's right that there is a progressive majority, an American majority that wants to see real change, wants to see wages go up and go up faster than the cost of health and saving for retirement. But also here's a majority of the American people who I think right now just want to be able to turn on the TV, see their president and actually feel their blood pressure go down a little bit instead of up. Through the roof Mayor Pete's like,

I'm super chill vote for me. It's a long way to go. There is an underlying truth here, and that is if the Democrats weren't so ideologically driven and so emotionally invested against Trump, the clear lane that they have would be to do ah what would essentially be a Bill Clinton style triangulation here and say we want to we want to do the things that Trump is, the things that are going well in the economy. We're going to continue. We're gonna bring the country together. We're gonna

work together. We're gonna reach across the aisle. We're gonna come up with solutions. We're gonna heal the divide in this nation. What was How did Obama forget about how Obama governed? I know a lot of you talking about blood pressure rising, forget about how Obama governed. Remember how Obama ran for office. You know the slogan hope and change, and it was all bringing us together. And you knows

I'm gonna merge together. We're gonna love draw, We're gonna be amazing, We're gonna be fand testing, We're all gonna whole house or we're gonna be friends, and that was the way that he managed to crush two Republican presidential opponents. Now he got very lucky with the financial downturn and all the rest of it. But the messianic uniter role. If the Democrats had someone who was charismatic, that would be the real lane. They really only have two options.

You only have two options against Trump scorched earth, socialist lunacy, Bernie Sanders, what are you talking about. It's not just you know, lighten a few forest fires. Or the other alternative would be to bring someone forward who is charismatic and poses as a uniter while trying to get us

to that socialist future. Right, the head fake Democrats so effectively stretching back for as long as I've been able to pay attention to the news, pretend to be one thing to get votes, and then govern a different way when they're in power, and that option, if they were really looking to be able to fee Trump, I think that would be the much more realistic path, much better path for them. Essentially, put someone forward who's a good salesperson,

who's charismatic, and who lies about what Democrats want. That's what Biden was supposed to be for them. But he's not good enough at it. That's what Bloomberg they're hoping now. Well, no, Bloomberg's just supposed to buy it. I mean he actually said last night when they're talking about congressional race, He's like, I bought that that should be Bloomberg's twenty twenty bumper sticker. I bought that. Whatever it is, doesn't matter. I bought that.

And this is what you see the Democratic Party doing right now. They've had this choice between trying to put forward someone who will unite the party versus trying to have somebody who's just going to divide it, I'm sorry, unite the country versus somebody who's going to further exacerbate the division. And they've just gone. They've gone with the craziest left wing loon they can possibly find. And they

wonder why. There are a lot of people who have been in politics for a long time who're watching this thing. Sank Democrats, stop being crazy. You're out of your minds. Who knows how this is really going to shake out, But it's gonna be. This is gonna be the best year ever to cover American politics. That is a promise that I can make to you and I'm excited about it. You're in the Freedom Hunt. This is the Buck Sexton

Show podcast. Well, you're right. The economy is doing really great for people like mister Bloolberg and all the billionaires in the last three years, last three years, billionaires in this country sort an eight hundred and fifty billion dollars increase in their wealth. But you know what, to the ordinary American things are not so good. The question you might have thought was what does Bernie Sanders think about billionaires?

You know what? The question was, what should well, what should you make of the really low unemployment rate under President Trump? And why should we think that you'd be better at this? Bernie Sanders, I've been saying, not even a good socialist. Let's bring in David Harsani. He's a friend of the show. He writes over a National Review. He's doing great stuff on National review dot com with regard to Bernie Sanders defensive authoritarian regimes and how crazy

it is. David, what do you think of I wanted to just run with this premise for a second. I don't even think Bernie Sanders is a learned socialist. I think he's just like a street corner demagogue. On socialism. I don't know about that. I think he's just trying to find a way to talk about it without sounding like a crazy leftist that he is and that he's

been forever. I mean, I don't know how learned he is, but I know that he's you know, he's ridiculous and lying about how lying about the last forty five years and how the last three years, and lies about everything about how Americans are doing better. I mean, by almost any standard, American life is better now. I mean, but if I and I know that we could never really find this out, of course he would say yes. I mean, do you think that Sanders has he read Marks Angles,

has he read Bakhudin as he? I mean, do you think you think that he actually understands the philosophical roots of the ideology that he's now trying to foist upon America? Or does he just understand the slogans. I don't think he's a scholar or anything. But I'm pretty sure that probably when he was young, you probably picked up you know, maw or Marx or and read into it and dabbled.

I mean, it's such nonsense in general that I don't think you can really be learned about it because it doesn't make sense and it's always sort of flexible, as you hear. But do you think he really believed? But you think he really believes it, I guess this is an even more important question. Is he a true believer? Oh my gosh, yes, I think so. I mean, listen, growing up, whether I did in New York, I knew people like him. I mean, no one took them seriously.

It's like your raging commie uncle, you know what I mean, and you know your red diaper baby people like that. He is one of them. I recognize it. I mean, he you know, that's why he has nice things to say about the Vietcong or or Castro or or Tega. That's who he is. I really believe that. I mean, but you know, he's asked a question about low unemployment and he runs off on this rant about billionaires again,

and this is farcical. Oh. I mean, basically he the inequality card, right, I mean, that's what he needs to rely on. He can't say the economy is actually the economy is terrible because it's nonsense. Most normal personal look outside and see that that's not true. Obviously, there are always some people who are suffering, but there aren't enough people suffering from TAC Like an actual, you know, full blown socialist, he has to rely on targeting millionaires. You know,

he is about class. He cares about class differences, and that's what he's going to rely on. And no one likes a billionaire, right, So that's this talking point over and over again. I want to get into how we got here where a socialist looks like he's going to be the Democrat. I mean, in a sense, yeah, I like to poke fun of the Democrats for how I'm saying this is, but it's also an America problem, and I do want to keep that in mind that we've come to this point as a country where this is

even being seriously considered. But first, I mean, just anything for you last night and the debate him. The big takeaway that most people had was that it was a terrible debate with bad questions, and we didn't learn anything new. At least that was what I saw. What you did you have anything that you thought, okay, well that was worthwhile or that's a reminder of something that at least we should see. No, I thought that to me, it

was terrible. I think we learned anything. Maybe we learned that Sanders is actually not going to be great when someone's full blown, you know, attacking him, you know, just full frontal attack on him. I think he's not going to react well. And these people who he's around rarely have attacked him for his actual ideas being crazy. It's more like, oh, we haven't evolved to that yet. People aren't ready for that yet. Well, that's not what Trump's

gonna do. Trump's gonna call him acami or whatever he comes up with, and he's going to constantly call him that. He's gonna have to defend it. Do you have concerns? You know, we had we had Ram Emmanuel before. I think we played a sound by from We've had all these different Democrats now, I mean David Axelrod I love because he comes out and says, Bernie Sanders is not

a socialist. So we know that that's going to be a thing, right that the guy who walks around saying nothing but I'm a socialist, We're gonna be told he's not a socialist because you know, up is down and down is up. But the Democrats that are worried that this is going to lead to not just a presidential loss, but a possible electoral wipe out across the board. How would you gauge your confidence all because I do remember twenty sixteen with Trump, everybody thought Hillary was going to

win pretty much. No, I'm not one of the people who thinks that Bernie is going to lose for sure. I'm not one of the people who thinks that that it's going to translate into you know, sweeps for the Republicans. In fact, I think people, especially when it comes to Trump. Obviously I was wrong about that election, But more than that, I think people compartmentalize who they vote for, and they can treat Bernie as his own thing, and just as

they treat Trump as his own thing. You have a lot of Republicans, you know, with bigger vote margins and in some states than than Trump had. And you have a governor here in Maryland for instance, who is a Republican, has nothing to do with Trump. So I'm not I'm not sold on that idea. No, I am sold on the idea that Bernie is a real socialist. Just because a person can't get done what he wants done does not mean that that's not what he is. You know,

he just think where he knows. Listen, he can't say we're going to nationalize every industry because it's impossible. So instead, you know, he does it a different way. He does it incrementally. He's a socialist. Yeah, I mean, I'm kind of amazed we're going to see this. We're also going to have a large chunk of the Democrat corporate media that has been very cautious and or hustle to Bernie for a while. If he becomes a nominee, that's all

going to just disappear. And I think it's gonna be fascinating because real quick, do you think there'll be a never Bernie movement among Democrats? I feel like they're lust for power. Will that will never exist? I don't think you will exist. Maybe you know during the primaries there'll be a faction like that, but I think that will. There will be no major anti Bernie movement, and they certainly won't dominate television in the way that they never Trumpers do. I want to come back and ask you

about how we got here. We got David Harsani, everybody of National Review, stay with us. Thanks for listening to The bus Essen Show podcasts. Remember to subscribe on Apple podcast, the iHeartRadio app, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right back with David Harsany Nashalview dot com for his latest on this. David, I know, you know you've been

writing about this. You know, I read the other day on air just an old, an old you know, Peace and the Press about how they used to drain the blood from execution victims, you know, political executions and Castro and Castro's Cuba before selling it to the Vietcong. I mean, this is a really scary, bad regime. Bernie Sanders still likes to say nice things about it, even after he's had this initial stumble. What do you make of that? Well, even today, you know, in the past he is basically

any tyrant. It was a Communist that he was asked about he defended in some way. I mean, you know, every single one during his life's time that I can see um, And even today he can't say, yeah, you know, I was wrong about Castro. I mean, that guy was terrible. He has to say there was a literacy program he liked, as if communism wasn't, as if you needed communism to

have a literacy program. You know, again, a lot of people pointed this out, but obviously no one says, boy, you know it was a real you know, environmentalist it was. That was a good part. We can't only say the bat you know, talk about the bad things. It's preposterous. He does it because he has an ideological uh, you know, he has ideological kins ship with what Castro has done there. And maybe he doesn't like the authoritarianism, but that goes

hand in hand. It goes hand in hand every single time, because you can't have real socialism without compelling people to participate in stealing their property and making them do things. So he has never been asked to explain what in the Soviet Union he thinks was great that we should adopt, as he said at the time, because no one asks him tough questions, and that Castro question was the toughest thing has been asked. What was for you? What's the

scariest thing about a possible Bernie Sanders presidency. He keeps deflecting to every he says this thing about you know, every other industrialized country has managed to do this, which is obviously very hazy on the details. But you know what, what is your response when people say, oh, we can't we can't be Sweden. We can't be Denmark. That's all Bernie Sanders wants. If we were Denmark, we'd have a very very high tax rates for the middle class and

the poor as well. There is not they partly have any progressive taxation compared we have much bigger progressive taxation. They don't want them Mark here and they don't even understand what's going on in Denmark and nor any of the Scandinavian countries where they have capitalistic, capitalistic engine in a small country that you know that in a healthy not healthy, but a generous welfare program. That's not what he wants. He wants to nationalize healthcare in this country.

He wants to nationalize the energy sector in this country. And you know that's my answers basically, you know, I mean, I think you know, most people who keep saying, oh, why can't we be like Scandinavia have no clue what's even going on there. The Swedish rejected socialism after the seventies and embrace it. Yeah, Now, this is what I've been telling the audience, So I'm glad to hear that's the same. That's the same way with like Uron, how

do we how do we get to this point? Though, I know you're going to be writing a National Review in the next day or so about this specifically, you know, what has been the cultural transition rather than the cultural process that has brought us to a point where a straight up socialist can be a serious content or for

the American presidency. Well, just to be preface this by saying, and I'm sure I've mentioned it on this show, that I am passionate about this, mostly because I think my parents were defectors from a communist country and to see them still alive having to think about what a social is becoming president, it's actually pretty horrifying for me. Lad I want to dig in it for a second day. And what did they tell you about? What was it like?

What was it like in the old country. It was like that they gave up everything and left their family to come here because it was horrible, That's what it was like. I mean, they're from Hungary and it wasn't Let's remember, Hungary wasn't the worst of the communist countries, you know, as far as authoritarianism was concerned, wasn't as probably as bad as Easia, German or the Soviet Union.

But it was bad enough where you couldn't you were told what to do, you were told what you could buy, you told what you can you know, become in life. And they didn't like that, so they gave up everything to come here, thankfully. And so to me it's personal as well to hear people, to hear someone like Bernie saying the same kinds of things that I've been thinking about and studying for a long time, probably because of

my parents and growing up. You know, culturally, we never treated socialism as we should have, or the or communism as we should have. I was thinking the other day about how everyone in this country knows what the Holocausts are. Most people, I hope, who educated people do. They've seen pictures of it, they understand the depth in humanity of it.

How many people here have heard of the greatly be Forward or how many people here know that there was a Ukrainian famine where far more people died than the Holocaust. You know, they don't know that, they don't see pictures because the academics in this country, the cultural stewards you know, of this country don't care about that kind of thing.

They have whitewash communism and whitewash socialism. Why I've been telling I've been telling everyone listens for a while to read The Great Terror by Robert Conquest, which is which is a study of effectively how academics in the West, the UK, and America pretended that the Great Purges under Stalin didn't happen. Millions and millions and millions of people tortured, murdered, starve, killed,

sent to Siberia. All of the people act like that didn't happen, right, or yeah, or they're apologists for the things, or even yesterday. So I forget his name, but he was at BuzzFeed once saying America is just as bad as Cuba, or even just as bad. You know, we are forced to say the pleasure of allegiance in school. Also like these. Sometimes I wonder if they're just not educated enough, or if they fool themselves or they don't care.

But generally, I think what happens is that socialism is enticing. It's kind of a religious It's about feels, you know what I mean. I want to help the poor, I want to make people equal, and whether the Soviet unions around or not around, people will embrace that. The Soviet Union was around, Burnie embraced that he didn't care. So it's not just about not being around for that stuff. And first of all, we are around for that stuff, right, You have Venezuela of China, you have North Korea and

other countries, so you're around for it. They just don't care. They think they can do it better and do it right.

And again, I just I want to quickly say, I'm not saying Burnie is Stalin, but I am saying no works around saying hey, I'm a democratic fascist, right because it would be preposterous, just as it's preposterous as the same a democratic social And so you feel like if if people understood that that Bernie Sanders is not representing a future for because I think the American left largely, I mean, there are the true radicals that want total

social justice based economic reorganization and upheaval, but I think that in that for a lot of more normal democrats, however you want to define that, they're like, we're just trying to be more like Europe, That's what they say. And this is general thing of we're just going to be more like Europe. What do you say to that? I get it, I mean, and I believe that that's what most normal Democrats probably want to do. Europe is not a success, though we're a success. We're much more

successful in Europe. The more you organize and have coped down control of the economy, the more stagnant your society is, the less growth there is. I just don't understand. Here's really what my problem is. I just don't understand what people are talking about. The act like we're in the middle. You know that we're nineteen seventeen Russia here or something like that. We're not. We're getting better. Everything's getting better,

we're living longer. To to try to now control the economy, to have someone take over your healthcare because it's it's expensive. I mean that has never worked, and healthcare is expanded. The two things that are outrageously expensive in comparison to what they used to be are two, as I like to point out, two of the most heavily government regulated and government involved areas of the economy healthcare and education, right,

and also housing has gone up as well. But you know it is more expensive, but no one says things have to be cheaper forever. You also get a lot more, we live longer, with less pain, We have incredible technological advances in medicine, and one day they're going to be cheaper and when you know, when we learn how to be more productive making those things, and the idea that we should hand that over to government, to me is just it's un American, and you know, and I hope

that enough Democrats realize that. Though I don't know how you st I actually think, and I'm trying to get you know, more people to at least hear me out on this theory. There was a huge surge towards socialism during and after the Great Depression in America in the West. The idea was that capitalism had failed and that socialism

was the future. Right. This is and this was it was communist propaganda, but this is what was believed by a lot of people, you know, British, British intellectuals, American journalists. I think that we've ventured a period where America is actually so peaceful and so prosperous that now we almost have the opposite problem. Who everyone's thinking, well, if we only gave the government more control, we could completely eradicate we essentially could get to utopia. We can completely eradicate

poverty and pain and illness and all these other things. Now, I think that's right. I think that people don't listen. There's always going to be a segment of a population that's suffering, obviously, so there are problems. We don't live in utopia. It's never going to be that way. But I do think that we have so few problems or another. Yeah,

so I agree with what you're saying. But I think another problem is we look at our political environment, which is ridiculous right now and has been for a while, and we sort of transpose that onto the real world. The real world is nothing like that. I live amongst my neighbors very peacefully. Everything was going pretty good for their lives, and but then they look at the havoc of politics and they think that that's how the country

is in general, when it's not. So. I think I think people have the wrong even though I don't know. There were poles of Gallipole showed that most people are pretty happy in etc. But I think the people think there's a lot of turmoil when really they have less turmoil that than they've ever had in history. And what about the points about the middle? You know, this keeps coming up to the middle class have it worse. The

middle class have it worse. I mean I've seen some serious right leaning I guess you could say economists who will point out that, you know, my parents generation, for example, there were things that were you know, less, there were things that were less expensive even when adjusted for inflation and everything else. It seems like you're telling me also, yeah, but you know you can around a supercomputer in your pocket and are going to live like fifteen years longer

and healthier, etcetera, etcetera. I mean, how do you deal with the middle class is getting a raw deal? Right? This is what all those democrats say. What's the truth of that? Well, the right leaning people you're talking about are not serious in my book, But I will tell you this, Yes, some things are more expensive, it seems to me, how is this, for instance, but they're also a million times nicer. I mean, I mean that they're bigger,

they're more beautiful, they're better built, they're safer. There are very few things today that are Take a car. I just saw a just saw a study on cars that when when I was a kid, that people would have their cars like five six years whatever it was. Now cars ten years later are running people have to return them. They're still in like really good shape. They could run, you know, they could go two hundred thousand miles and there would be no problem. Everything we have is a

better quality. A dollar I spend on something on medical care, for instance, is far more useful today than it was back then. The idea that the middle classes stuff. First of all, the middle class is growing, the upper middle class is growing. We're not getting poor, we're getting richer. And people don't want to accept this for some reason. But the country is better now. Obviously, we have some social problems, and you know, the the overdoses and all

of that, and they were people. You know, those are moral problems and ethnic problems and communal problems. I'm not sure that a government can solve those things, you know. I just have never seen that happen before, where government solves your depression. For instance, David Harsani dropping happy truth bombs for all of us to hear, I mean, telling us that things actually are getting better. David's stuff will be up at nashurreview dot com. Reading there, follow him

on Twitter. Last name kind of spelled like it sounds h A R S A n y I. David, thanks so much man any time. Thank you, You're enough freedom. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. Damn, we got another bomb drop by Project Veritas here. This time it's an ABC News correspondent who has been It's just spended in advance of what will be a Project very Toss video released. Veteran reporter David Wright was suspended. We have some of the audio producer mark Project Veritas tricks again.

Play it keeping. Yeah, voters are guys like I'm a socialist. Okay, now this gets very interesting for me on a few levels. One, I think the Project Veritas has done some the best undercover the most important undercover videos all they actually make you want to throw up when you watch them that I've ever seen were from David de Laydon and the

Center for Medical Progress. And the fact that that did not result in a complete national revulsion and change in the view of abortion and abortion laws is a stain on this country's honor and integrity. But Product for artas does some good stuff. James o'keith is a brave guy

who works hard at what he does. I have been a little critical in the past, and I would continue to be about posing as a colleague slash friend of somebody in off hours who happens to work for a news organization who's kind of like a you know, getting some ap assistant producer, some effectively close to entry level person or somebody who's you know, maybe a couple runs up the ladder from that and having them say some stuff and then exposing that and getting them in trouble

and ruining their career. You know, I think, I think you gotta be you gotta be willing to draw some lines here. And it's one thing if you can get like a CNN anchor being like, yeah, I'm a socialist and I hate Republicans and I pretend to be neutral on TV. Yeah, that's that, you know, you can break break the confidence of somebody that you're posing as you know, somebody having a normal conversation with. But the other stuff, I think Project Veritas has gone after some people that

are a little too low level in my opinion. I'm just going to say it. So I don't like everything that they do on this exposing bias realm that said they are doing the work, and this guy I think, I mean, I don't know that much about the hierarchy over at ABC News, but this guy's a senior correspondent.

He's been around for a long time, and he's getting in trouble here for saying what we essentially already know to be the case, what we already know to be true, and that is that these networks CBS to this debate last night ABC. These are lib networks that are clinging to this fiction that they're neutral, and it's because that gives them an advantage over their competitors, because they hold themselves up as, oh see, we're the real journalists, we

do the honest journalism here. And they're these massive legacy institutions with a huge amount of corporate money and power behind them, and so they still have I mean, ABC News has ten million people watching in a night. I mean, if you want to watch like a male model read off of a prompter, you can do that on any channel base. I don't know why people do. Oh that could David and Weird, you know. I'm like, okay, we're gonna see them take his shirt off? Like why is

everyone so excited about watching this thirty minute broadcast? That's so And it always ends too with like oh on a hoppy story of like ducks on a palm that you know, found their mother. I mean, I think I think this format is hopefully going away soon. You know, ABC they run this programming all day and then then they throw on a news broadcast for thirty minutes or whatever it is at night. Same thing with CBS evening news. Like why why does anybody think that they should watch this?

And it's old habits. I mean, it goes back to when people that was their only option and they're used to doing that, and so they keep doing it. But they cling to this fiction because it gives them an advantage over their competitors, and it should go away. A well educated news consumer understands that ABC, CBS, NBC, they

are liberal networks. They're pushing a liberal agenda. Their anchors are generally unimpressive and don't know very much about politics or the world, and this is just the reality we live in. So this senior guy saying that they spike stories that are pro Trump, they run stories that are anti Trump, he's a socialist, just confirmation of what we

already know. And if he's a senior enough guy, I mean I think that that's I think then that justifies the undercover approach to get this information about about this individual, you know, And so I think that I think that this one probably clears the bar for me in terms of a project very toss sting operation. You know, getting some guy who's like a glorified intern to talk about the Bernie Revolution, you know, I think you're just getting somebody in trouble. It doesn't really do all that much.

So yeah, man, project very tas got another guy telling us what we know. Add this one onto the list for Oh, you mean that a major news network is really biased and people shouldn't believe them and they pretend to be objective journalists. Yes, thanks for listening to The bus Essen Show podcast. Remember to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, the iHeart Radio app, World warherever you get your podcasts. Team got a special treat for you today. We are joined by the one and only Matt Wall. She has

a new book out, Church of Cowards. He's going to tell us a bit about that. And also, if you haven't already, you can check out his podcast, The Matt Wall Show, and he's a writer at The Daily y or Matt. Great to have you back on the show. Yeah, great, spear, thanks for having me back. All right, well let's start with let's start with the book and then I'll get into a little bit of current events, if that's all right. So Church of Cowards a wake up call to complacent Christians.

What do you want complains and Christians to know? Well, I think you know when you when you look at at the situation of the church. I think most most Christians, most believe in Christians, realize that we have a problem,

that the church is dying. Essentially, not to not to be too dramatic about it, but when you see that, when you see the statistics of younger generation leaving the church, especially when he gets around college age, and faith is dwindling, you look, and you look even more specifically, yet the number of Christians who will affirm even the most basic doctrinal points of Christianity, those numbers are going down. Why

is that, That's the question. And I think the answer is that in our culture in the West, as opposed to out in the East, in the Middle East and places in Africa where they have real violent persecution they faced, we don't face that. Our problem is almost exactly the opposite, where we're far too comfortable and we're sort of just drifting along on the tide of the culture. And going wherever and it takes us, and in this case, it's

taking us right into faithlessness and secularism and relativism. And so this book is trying to call attention to that and basically hoping to rally Christians to resist that tide, because I think we've been just drifting with it for far too long. Why is that? I mean, people talk a lot about the culture and the influences that one has from just you know, TV movies, what's cool, you know, the VMAs, all this stuff. It tends to not be in line with it, with it, you say, a traditional

Christian morality. Is there a way to infuse the culture with more of that? Or is that a pipe dream? What do you make of it? Well? I think it has to start. It has to start with the church. And when I say the church, I mean, you know, Christianity generally, churches in general. It has has to start there. And I think what the problem is that many churches for a long time and Christian leaders have been scared,

have been very reluctant. I've been scared to challenge their flocks, especially morally, you know, to have a real moral message to call them to sacrifice and repent in these things, and so it has to has to be to begin with that. You know, we can we can't be afraid to engage on a moral level, um, and we can't be afraid of of engaging the culture, which is which has been the case, which has been the case for so long. Now. You're a Catholic, I'm a Catholic. What

do you think of this Pope? You know, I'm I'm I can't say I'm a big I'm a big fan of the pope. My, my biggest, the biggest issue with with Pope Francis is that the one thing we need as Catholics and as Christians generally is moral clarity and direction. And that's the exact opposite of what we've been getting from the Vatican for years now, where it's just confusion, it's haziness. And you know, it sounds like the Pope is suggesting that this or that change to be made.

It sounds like he's even challenging some really fundamental points of doctrine, and that's what it sounds like. And then we're told no by the Vaticaneau, it's not exactly what he meant. But what did he mean? I don't know, and it's just been the same game that's been played

for years now. And all it does it confuses people, and it makes devout Catholics feel betrayed, and it makes us feel like, well, what you know, it makes us feel like the Pope does just doesn't care the situation that we're in, or doesn't doesn't realize what it's like for us in this culture. Now, forty one senators Democratic senators just voted against giving medical care when babies are born alive during an abortion procedure. Democrats claim it doesn't happen.

I know this happens. We know this happens. There are people that have testified about it happening to them, but then they go ahead and vote against this after saying it's not a thing. Then they say, well, even if it is a thing, we're not going to give protection to babies who are born alive during an abortion procedure.

I want to ask you know, what do you think should be the appropriate what is the appropriate response from I don't mean it focus too much here in the Catholic church, but it is an area where I think you and I have some similar views on this. Pelosi Biden, people who I think Biden. Yeah, Biden claims to be Catholic as well. I know Pelosi will talk about her faith.

What should be done When someone like Nancy Pelosi, for example, supports publicly as a as a leader and as a legislator, a legislator abortion for all nine months of her pregnancy, and then turns around and talks about how her Catholic faith informs her love for everybody, I think it's just a total mockery and a disgrace that these politics are allowed to continue. Obviously, the Catholic Church can't stop them

from saying whatever they want to say. But the Catholic Church can say, well, if you're if this is a position you're going to take, and you're going to try to lead people into scandal and sin publicly, then you're not going to do it as a Catholic and they

should be excommunicated. This is a this is a tool that the Catholic Church has under its belt, and maybe there was a time when it was a little bit too liberal in its use of it, but in recent years and decades, it's it just seems like there's nothing that a Catholic can do, apparently at least in the West, to get themselves excommunicate. But this is this is supposed to be exactly the situation it gets you as communicate.

When you're on a public stage and you're denying basic fundamental doctrines of the Catholic Church and trying to importantly lead other people into denying it as well, that's when the Catholic Church is supposed to state, No, you're not that this is you're you're not in you're clearly not in communion with us, and so you know, hit the bricks basically, and that's what should be said. There's there's no argument I can see, you know, for allowing this

to continue the way the church has. What do you make of Pope Pete's speaking of popes. Pope, by the way, speaking to Matt Walsh, who has a new book out that you all should check out. You probably know Matt from the Daily Wire. His book is Church of Cowards, a wake up called the Complacent Christians. Uh yeah, but Pope he seems to, even when it's not necessary, fall back on this. Let me lecture Christians who are Republicans or conservatives about the immorality of their side. Well, what's

the Matt Walsh take on all that. Yeah, I think it's it's interesting that Republicans are, though, are the ones who are accused of being Bible thumpers all the time. But but yeah, Pope pe or pastor pas I've called you gave him that, you gave him the uh you know, you're promoted him my guests to pope. But he's the one who brings up the Bible, constantly brings up, brings his faith into it all the time, which I wouldn't have a problem with if it wasn't number one, for

the hypocrisy of it. But number two that he's that he's distorting the biblical message support some of the worst moral outrages that the world has ever seen. I mean, he is in favor of abortion at every stage of development. He was given a chance recently at I think it was a town hall, he was given a chance to at least come out against partial birth abortion, which is, you know, the killing of a baby literally as it's being born and emerging from the birth canal. And he

wouldn't come out against that. He apparently has no problem with that. And yet he's trying to use his faith as a as a cudgel to beat other people with and it's just absolutely hypocritical and wrong. And man, I also want to get your take on what do you see happening right now that we had the debate last night. What do you see happening right now in this democratic field? Are are you concerned that Bernie Sanders, if he becomes the nominee, can actually win. I think he can win.

My money wouldn't be wouldn't be on him. I think the smart money was starting to be against him winning because for all, for all the obvious reasons. At number one, he's a communist and it is hard to imagine that thirty years after after, you know, we win the Cold War and we actually elect the communist president. So that's hard to imagine. On top of that, you know, also

other things. I think the fact that he's going to be seventy nine years old at inauguration day, you know, that's that's also a problem that people recognize him, and so many other issues as well. So that's what would I think put the odds against him. But I also think that many conservatives and Trump supporters have been a little bit too cocky and confident, basically guaranteeing that you know,

he's going to lose forty five states or whatever. Uh, he definitely has a chance to win because there are other things that are working in his favor. And you do you do see some interesting parallels between Bernie twenty twenty and Trump twenty sixteen. I mean, this is someone who number one, has a very excited core of supporters who are not going to abandon him no matter what comes out against him, just like just like Trump has

always had. Trump had a twenty sixteen. Uh, you know, he's he's He's But I think the most important thing about Bernie that maybe people don't understand is that his message is all about moral outrage. You know, that's his entire message. It's not an economic message, it's a moral message. And he's he's always out there talking about this is wrong, you know, income inequality, and people can't get healthcare, and kids with their student loan dead, and YadA, YadA, YadA.

His whole messages this is wrong, it's evil if we have to stand against it. And I think his prescriptions for these moral problems are completely wrong. But the fact is that's how he's he's rallying people, and it's a message that does resonate, and it's the same kind of message that Trump has always had. Actually, I think the Trump is had a message of you know, the elites and the swamp and they're taking advantage over the working man. And it's a similar kind of message of moral outrage

about people being taken advantage of. Um, it's gonna be a few hundred thousand votes that determine who the next president is. I think every needs to remember that too. It's it's not going to be like ten million votes on one side of the other. It's gonna be a few hundred thousand in about half a dozen states, right right exactly. So any anything to happening when and when you throw just like we saw with Trump, do you saw somebody like Trump into the mix. It's really hard

to predict what's going to happen. And I think it's the same thing with Bernie's just all all of the normal rules that we that we think we know for how politics works, they went out the window with Trump. With Trump, maybe they go out the window with Bernie too. The book is Church of Cowards, a wake up Call to complacent Christians Billable on Amazon Now. Matt Walsh is the author of the He's at the Daily Wire before we let you go, Matt. One last quick one. The

Avengers movies amazing or garbage? I have to say, I think absolutely garbage. But yeah, I'm weird. Mark eat that. He says it's garbage too. And Matt Walsh's a wise man, so we can address this with later in roll call for producer. But Matt, you just made by day of my friend. Thank you so much. Appreciate it. You're welcome, no problem, thanks for having me on. I appreciate You're in the freedom hud. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast,

got an interesting new store. I wanted to bring your attention to team at first, I just want I want to let producer Marcus. He was busy making sure that the audio quality was perfect on our call. There with with with Matt Walsh of the Daily Wire. Um, I'm we got We've not got three people at least official as the Avengers is not good. Something about I guess Republican pundits. Yeah, you don't have time for fun, yeah,

grumpy Republican pundity. Yeah, we not like the fun. We just want everybody reading, you know, souls and nets in late at night, you know, so they understand the trials and tribulations of the world. So you know, that's something we got going. We got that going for us. Which

I'll be over here in my little fortress having fun. Yeah, you'll be in the penalty box watching the billion dollar French multi billion dollar friends as I think now that it is probably billion, you know, actually try to go back and watch a little bit of There was an old Disney you know. I've been having a lot of fun with Disney Plus because I got a family member of subscription, you know, so you know, I qu as one does. And they had the old X Men cartoon

from way back. Have you ever seen it? There was an x Men cartoon from way back in the day, like twenty some odd years ago. Um, and you know it was pretty good. It's pretty good. I gotta say everything on there, well, anything you can imagine is on Disney Plus. I mean, I I gotta tell you, I don't know if you have real opinions on this. I've seen some of the new Disney stuff just out of curiosity. And when I say new, I mean the last ten years. Uh. It's just not, in my opinion, the same quality as

some of the original Disney grates. You know, lady in the tramp. Uh you know you go into a sort in the stone. Uh you know, all the all the other snow white, all those things. I think there are a different a different quality than and I tried to watch I tried to watch Moana. It's not good. Oh my wife loves that, really does. I couldn't have the song. I couldn't get And I also, I don't know why what's up the newest toy story? That was quality? Yeah? I also I took I took a date a while

back to at at the date's request to Frozen the Musical. Yes, did you enjoy it? Um? It was a nice date. I enjoyed the date. She is lovely the musical. I don't even understand what the story is really supposed to be, so I haven't watched the car too, but I did go to the Broadway show, and it's not clear to me exactly. So she like freezes her sister and then she goes away because she's afraid that her power of

freezing will be used too much. And then it turns out that her sister is going to marry some bad guy and she prevents him from it. I mean, it's like it's a mess. Kids love it, love it. I do not understand my wife's little cousin maybe three years old, only will dress in Frozen out. Yes, I mean, I actually think you could argue the best Disney movies. Beauty and the Beast is a fantastic movie. I know people say, oh,

but well that's a great movie. But I almost one best picture that was actually the best live action one. Oh really didn't seem a really good one with Hermione from Yeah, from from her Mary Potter. I mean, Lion King's amazing, A Lion King for what it is. I think it's a fantastic cartoon. Aladdin, that's actually one of Robin Williams rest in Peace, one of his best things. I mean, it's certainly up there with like Missus Doubtfire.

Um so that Disney cartoons have been amazing and these, you know, these cultural icons, and I just feel like some of the more recent ones. I mean, I know kids love Frozen, though I don't know, I still it still makes money for these for the company. I still don't understand what the yeah anyway, So you know, I go around and I'm not going to talk anymore about the Mandalorian, but if you haven't seen you haven't seen it yet, but I will point out these cartoons, the

newer ones. They're they're not four year thirty eight year old man. No, No, I get that. But see what I'm saying though, is I can I can still appreciate like Lady in the Tramp even if you're an adult is great. It is through your childhood maybe, yeah, like you remember it and gives you that warm feeling that you're kid, or or you know, Rob the Robin Hood with the Robin Hood as a fox and if you know, like those are great cartoons are great to this day. So I just you know, so that's right. I don't

have any of the emotional connection. You know, I saw like the Lion came with my parents in the theater. I remember. So maybe when you have kids you'll get that emotional connection back. Well, no, I'll just have to sit there and watch the Disney things they want to watch for like hours and hours of time, or I'll put them in front of it and I'll get to like be on my computer trading. You'll he was like, oh whatever, let it go, let it go, you know, yeah,

the whole Yeah, just like that. That's how I'm gonna do it. Oh the story I was gonna tell you guys, the news stories. That's what're'm talking about. Dis anymore, Um, is that the a Court of Let me make sure I get this one right. A corn has in fact ruled in favor of the administration. This just came down today. Um. The Second Circuit has allowed the Justice Department to withhold grants from New York City and seven states over sanctuary funding,

reversing a federal judge's ruling from twenty eighteen. This is big, This is big. This is gonna make its way up to this court now I think, I mean the Supreme

Court has to decide to take it. But I could see this going all the way because shouldn't the federal government if it has a legal request, or if it has a legal request of states that it makes and it has discretionary funds that it gives them to help with that, and then that state or city does not provide that assistance, doesn't the federal government as an entity then have the ability to pull back those funds. Isn't that federalism actually working the way that it's supposed to

as long as it's tailored in that way. We give you law enforcement funds to help us, and we would like help on this thing. And it's legal for the federal government to ask. This is all about a legal immigration now, shouldn't there be the ability for the federal government to pull back those funds the fight over sanctuary cities, this is you know, the administration should focus in on this. There was not a single question and debate last night that I can remember, at least, not a single question

about immigration. Now one it's crazy, not one question about immigration. It's nuts. What's when you think? I mean, this is seri a huge issue, huge issue for security, for the economy, for the future of this country. Everyone's been saying for years and years now on both sides, you know, the system is broken. We got to fix it, we gotta do more. No. Instead, last night it was like a bunch of bickering and a wokeness competition at different parts.

It was really that was really, as we've all agreed, who have watched the debate that I've talked to you so far, it was a really weak showing. But this is something where the administration, I mean, Trump rose to prominence in the in the Republican field. He got ahead of his competition on the issue of immigration. This is where he separated himself and he was willing to say the stuff that people needed and wanted to hear about this. You know, he was the one who's saying, we used

to all agree. You know, there used to be this consensus on building a wall. There were laws passed by Congress about building barriers at the southern border prevented legal entry. And now all of a sudden, that's an athema. Now that's you know, beyond the pale. You're not allowed to have that talk, even you're never mind actually enacted. So I'm I'm happy to see that because this is also a Bernie Sanders. He's going to lose the left on

this immigration issue if you push him. He's not. It's not really clear where he stands in immigration because it conflicts with his his workers. You know, workers of the world unite the word I guess workers of America unite thing. So this will be interesting to see this play out. Thanks for listening to The Bus Sesson Show podcast. Remember to subscribe on Apple podcast, the iHeart Radio app, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, team Buck, it's time

for roll call. We got dubstep roll Call intro, and I feel like dubstep has has faded out again. You know, every it's like every ten years people rediscover some form of you know what they call EDM electronic dance music, which I think technically is dubstep. Dubstep is right, it's like a subcategory DM. It's like communism is a subcategory of socialism. Jubstep is a subcategory of the DA. Same

exact thing, right, same same thing. It's not how I think about things, um, but yeah, like I don't see that guy's scrillics anymore with the weird haircut and the cigarette angling. And I'm sure you're still around. Yeah, I'm probably making like a million dollars a night djaying for you know people all over like Austria, Like, yeah, play more of the indiam music. Yeah, I think the Chain Smokers have taken This is the best point of my life. Wait,

the Chain Smokers, the band. Yeah, they're like they do remixes of songs and they always like collaborate. That's what they about, to collaborate with other artists. I had. I've had this experience now where I went back because Spotify, which is incredible, and actually, you know, I'm on Spotify because people from Team Buck made fun of me for using Pandora, still saying that I'm a grumpy old man, I shouldn't use Pandora. Pandora's for like gen X, not

quite millennials, right, but in between boomers. And so if you're born in like the mid late seventies, you're a Pandora user. If you're born in the eighties, you're supposed to be on Team Spotify. Yeah, and I don't. I'm on Apple Music. I get it for free through my cell phone. Yeah. Okay, so there. But I went back and looked at at all the top songs. It's they're not the stuff for the last ten ten years. No

one's gonna be listening to in ten years. So when our parents, as much as I, as much as I feel like boomers, love to shove their music down the world's throat, you know, every car commercial, it's got to be like a rolling Stone song or you know whatever. The truth is that that music is timeless in a way that a lot of the stuff from the last ten or fifteen years I don't think will be. I think certain artists will be like Adele, you can throw

out there a lady Gaga, maybe justin Timberlake. It's even like that. It's but it's a small subset of the overall. Whereas you know, if you put on there's there's a lot of times now I'll put on a song that is even an artist that people don't even really remember all that well. I mean, I think this is true of eighties music. For example, if you like eighties music, there's so many different songs and bands you can put on that even if you don't know what it is,

you're like, I like this. There's a lot of one hit wonders in the eighties, Oh for sure. Yeah, they look at eighties was kind of a funky time. But I just scrill x stub step. I remember that that was a huge for a little while, maybe ten years ago. And now that type of music, the remixes of actual songs is great for when you're working out. Yeah, that's that's true. Actually, you know, you know what my favorite band all time for working out is actually and their

politics are horrible. They're they're like actual communists. I'm sure they're all millionaires, just like Sanders. Rage against the machine. If you're working out, rage against the machine gets it, gets it done. That's a completely different category of music. Oh yeah, it's like headbanging. Oh yeah, No, that's like that's like heavy. I mean I think it's I think it's considered heavy. Mat Yeah. I don't think I can work out to that. No, but it's really Yeah, some

of them out, We'll wick. I have a beast Mode playlist on Spotify share with you. I'll have to get It's got two hundred songs. Man. Wow, I keep it fired up in the hut. All right, now, we got roll call, we got some of the folks. They've got thoughts and things for us, and we appreciate that. Oh but when one quick programming note. I will have my friend Ben Winegarten in on the show on Friday because I have to travel to la to be on the Bill Mar Show, which I will be doing this Friday night.

It is ten eastern on HBO. I believe ten eastern, might be nine eastern. I think it's ten eastern. And it'll be interesting. It's going to be a spicy time, a spicy I meet the ball to be a spicy time to be on the Bill Mar Show. So I'm looking forward to that. No surprise here, I will be the only conservative on the show that night, and that audience is not going to be super psyched about what

I have to say. But you team are the ones that I'm speaking to when I do that show, as well as triggering literally millions of libs, so that will be fun too. But if you get a chance to tune in, I'd like to know that the team is watching and rooting for me and say nice things to me on two afterwards, because man, my twitter mentions after I do that show terrifying. The libs come after me like like a plague of lib locusts, like a bunch of angry progressive piranhas. Look at this a literation I

pull off? Yeah my popcorn ready, Yeah, that's roping Friday. Yeah, preducer Marx, You're like a look at him because when I go there, boom love, audience gonna boom me. I can read out the best tweets on me him. We could do it, oh after the Bill Marshall, we could definitely do a mean tweet session for sure. We'd have to get out the bleep button though. All Right, Kyle is first up here in roll Call. Hey Buck, you have an awesome show. Thank you, Kyle. You a fantastic taste.

I think all the political speculation that Bernie has the best shot of getting beaten by Trump is not correct. I believe Bernie has the best shot out of all the Democrats to win the presidency. The reason I say that is if Bernie gets screwed out of this nomination, Bernie bros. Won't vote for the Democratic nominee. They may actually if you vote for Trump to send a message. There's a decent amount of evidence to support that theory. On the other hand, the rest of the Democrat voters

would vote for Bernie because it's someone opposing Trump. I don't like how the Republicans have been underestimating Bernie. That's what the Libs did to Trump, and we all know how that went. You and a few others are the only ones I hear not saying to write him off and to take him seriously. We won't lose if we get out and vote, but we are if we are overconfident in a victory, we will have a socialist in office. You're the man, buck Shields High. Thank you, Kyle. Yeah, look,

I take Bernie. I take Bernie very seriously. I'm not write him off at all. I think that if there's any lesson from twenty sixteen we have to learn, it's the media doesn't know squat and American politics is a very different game than we had thought before. And you know, in this this new media environment, meaning social media, digital media,

it's just ever the game has changed. The game has changed, and Bernie Sanders is an outsider at a time when it feels like outsiders are able to pull off things that completely fly in the face of the conventional wisdom. See Donald Trump, right, I mean this is this is pretty self evident. So yeah, I take them very seriously. I don't know if Bernie voters, I mean, this is what you're really getting at. I don't know if Bernie voters would really refuse to support the Democrat nominee or not.

It's possible you could be right on that. I think that it really is going to depend on what happens here. If someone were able to really legitimately surge, and I don't even know how that would be possible at this point. But like, let's say Biden. Let's say Biden managed to run the table and the contest and there wasn't some real theory about you know, moutheasons from the DNC. You know,

there's not super delegates or something like that. I think Bernie voters would would probably go and vote for Biden because they hate Trump so much. Yeah, I do, But who knows. You know, we're all just guessing because we're talking about assessing trends that involve millions and millions and millions of individual decisions, and it's very it's very tough for anybody to get that right ahead of time. Everybody in the political prediction game needs to maintain a healthy,

healthy dose of humility. Peter writes, Ron Konkoma does have a beach. It's around the lake. It's okay, nothing special. Most people go to Fire Island or Robert Moses. It's one of the few things I miss about Long Island. Here in Kingston. There isn't much beach wise. Long Island is an overpopulated nightmare waiting to happen. Anywhen they're after Superstorm Sandy knows it's a ticking time bomb. Ultimately, I went out of New York probably Pennsylvania. By mid twenty

twenty one. Producer Mark what say you about this Long Island? Assess Long Island's awful really highest taxes in the entire country. And that's on Suffolk. Wow, between property axes and income tax all that, yeah high, it's overcrowded. The Long Alan Railroad is an abomination. It's off a place. What do you think I'm getting out? Yeah, I could never like

raise a family there. Wow. Well I do know that getting a police so I know this because when I was in the MYPD and the cops would often talk about how like getting a job as a law enforcement all as a cop in Nassau County, I think just the average starting salary is like one hundred and twenty grand, and so becoming a police officer there, your your chance is like per application is like point oh one or something, and it's it's like impossible because because they're so highly paid,

and the tax base has to be super high obviously to do that, no matter what they make, you redo the academy. I know somebody who was MYPD and was looking to maybe go to Nasar Suffolk. He wouldn't just join the force like in any other force in the country. You have to re goo to the academy. Even though MYPD is probably the best to cap and you've heard that too, that they're super they're very high, like for what that said, very high salary. I think they have

the highest starting laws. Can not have a high salary with those of those taxes and the property taxes. Yeah yeah, class of livings ridiculous online. Actually I went to so I was supposed to go to a big party for charity. I'll never forget this that a very very good friend of mine was throwing out in Suffolk County and the venue, which was like a party venue that you could rest

sort of like for weddings or whatever. The venue got shut down the day before because the venue didn't think that they for whatever reason, they didn't think that they had to pay the local Suffolk you know, the there's like a liquor fee that you pay for the town that they didn't think they oh it's a private thing. But no, no, no, no, no, and noose Suffolk cops showed up and they were like, no, charity party, we care you pay the tax my man, there's fee or

a tax fee everything. Yeah, they didn't pay the like public liquor you know, it wasn't it wasn't a liquor license because they weren't selling it. But if you're gonna have a large enough gathering. You have to have some almost like a keg fee or something like that, and you have to go to the pillow local PD and you have to get it. They didn't get it. Party canceled, canceled because of this that I was like, Wow, these suffic cops, these guys don't mess around nickel and dime.

You first last year, I needed the inspection. You don't have to get an inspection on your car every year. I guess it expired the day before. Immediately got a ticket. I've been out to I've been out to East Hampton and Southampton a few times in the last i'd say

decade or so. I'll never forget. I was out and I was driving like a rental car in Southampton and I did like a three point turn on a street that I'm telling you there were no cars, no people, know nothing, and and the cop who was on foot like waved me over and I sort of like drove up. I'm like, yeah, like there's nothing like I was. It was the middle of the day. There's only there. There was a lady cop and she's just like, look like,

I'm gonna let this go. But you just broke a double line by doing that and like, I could I think she said it was like a two hundred and seventy five dollars five And I looked at her. I was like, I was like you you're like are you in what what universe? Could this be there? She's like, no, no, let it go this time. And I was like, you're you guys would honestly, but it's because I had. You know, is a rental rental plate I'm a weekend or I'm

just there visiting friends or something, they don't care. They will rinse you. You could be a resident, they would do that to you. Oh yeah, no, of course a rental if you're if you're a year rounder, it's different. Yeah. I know this because I actually dated a girl who lived on Martha's Vineyard and I was with her in the car when a cop pulled her over for actually speeding. And he's like, oh, it's like, how's your dead? Dan? You know, like like you're right, Like if you're a

towny in these towns, you go right away. If you're a summer person, they oh, man, they turn you upside down and they they empty out your pockets. Do you know how much a red light ticket is in Nassa County. How much one hundred and fifty dollars. Let's see, this is what I mean. It's just crazy. Yeah, they just take you this, take you to the cleaners man, that's what they do. Anyway. All Strong Island there, you've never been out there, there aren't I mean, there are beautiful beaches,

that's why people pay. A beautiful place, but you have to pay to bin. It's a little bit. It starts to feel a little bit sound a little like California. Too much traffic, too expensive, you know, by the coast. That's what's going on in California. To Greg Buck, I know I always write in well Greg, we love it, but I become a bigger and bigger fan every single day I listen to you. Never has common sense been such so widely spoken. On another note, I think the

Republican Party should rename itself the Freedom Party. I think that would resonate it a lot better with voters. Just an idea of shield time. Well, Greg, thank you for the kind words about the show, and that's really an endorsement of what we do here that you feel like every day the show gets better and better. So thank you so much for that and we appreciate it. You're in the Freedom Hunt. This is the Buck Sex and Show podcast, Rick Right, Hi Bucking producer Mark Love. The

show volunteering. Volunteering for military service offers solutions to many of what Bernie views as problems in our country today. Free clothes, free food, free place to live, regular promotions and pay increase simply for doing your job, weekends off, opportunities to travel on the job experience from day one. Twenty years of service will generate a military pension for a lifetime. He can't do this anywhere else, just saying, Shields High Brothers. Well, Rick, I'm assuming you are veteran.

It sounds like you are based on your description here, and yeah, obviously that's you know, serving your country is certainly a honorable and fantastic option for a lot of people that want to do it. I think we all know Bernie Sanders was not about the He was not interested in signing up at any point. Jeffrey Buck, there are twenty three movies in the Marvel Cinematic Universe for reels. I'm a fan that's been with you since the Real newsdays.

Shields High, Well, thank you so much, Jeffrey twenty three movies in the Marvel cinemat. Yeah, I was trying not to tell you how many there actually were. That's a ton. Yeah. I didn't know his ant Man as one of them, by the way I saw this, and the guy from Clueless is now a superhero. Yeah, an Man's one of the funniest and he's a good It's great. Yeah, both han Man and then ant Man in the Wasp. I didn't even know this is a thing. Yeah, yeah, I

gotta learn more about this. I also though I was not a Black Panther fan at all as a movie, because I've probably looked at him with politics classes all. No, I I nope, that's not fair. Like I will say The Motorcycle Diaries, which is about the rise of che Guvara Ernesto Gavara. People call him Chay, which means dude. Motorcycle Diaries a really compelling movie. It's also turns che Guvara, who's a monster, into like a Jesus figure basically, like he's like just wants to heal the sick and help

the poor and everything else. Good movie, horrible politics. I just didn't think, I mean Black Panther. The society is more advanced than any other society in the world. They have like special technology doesn't exist anywhere else, but they choose the leader by having like a blood sport deathmatch. Doesn't seem to add up. It's supposed to be like old tribal ways. Yeah, but but I mean, if you got the most advanced technology in the world, like, wouldn't

you know what I mean? I don't know. I was a little I just thought it seemed a little bit strange to me. And also the thing with the rhinos at the end, where like there's the cgi rhinos running over people. I wasn't into it. I'm just saying. I know everyone's supposed to love the movie Black Panther. To me, there were some cool parts. I mean, I thought one was pretty good. But I don't know, I know, I'm what can I say, folks, I just don't understand you.

I know it doesn't make sense to a lot of people. Mark writes in this is just the name thing. I have to agree with Mark, of course on the Avengers Endgame is only one of a series I had. It is the only one of the series I had any emotional response to love. The show is always all right? Another another like vote for producer marks analysis on this one but comes from this, isn't you right? No writing in yourself? Yeah you got You gotta keep an eye on this guy. Like I said, I'm gonna go back

and check it out. Scott writes, Hey, Buck, Bernie's saying Castro isn't all that bad because he instituted a literacy program is like praising Hitler for always paying the gas bill. Gloves off shields high, Scott, you said it, man. I don't know why Bernie feels a need to do that, but he's you know, it's not helping himself. It's not the right thing to do. Richard. My wife is a teacher, so she would drag me along the judge high school

debate tournaments. That is what love is. Those high schoolers behave better than these candidates and could moderate a debate better than CBS did. Did you catch where Bloomberg slipped up and said he bought the forty reps who took the house. That is Bloomberg. He thinks he can just buy the election. And this whole wealth tax thing, it's only going to be two percent at first. The income tax is only one percent at first. Then Wilson Senate sky High, Shield Tie, good stuff from rachere a team.

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