You are entering the freedom hunt not one but two senior Democrat politicians in the state of Virginia in a lot of hot water, and it looks like the media's running cover for them. We'll talk about that, and also the fight for capitalism in this country is very much on the front lines. Are the Democrat versus Republican battle. We'll talk about how we should think about that and much more coming up from the Buck Sexton Show. This is the Buck Sexton Show, where the mission or mission
is to decode what really matters with actionable intelligence. Make no mistake American, You're a great American Again. The Buck Sexton Show begins. No, welcome to the book Sex and Show. Everybody, Man, we have a lot of stuff talk about today. Who man getting it getting it kicked off here on this on this Monday. Oh man, I'm in a good mood too, because it's it just felt like after the deep freeze last week. I don't even know, John, what was the
temperature like down the East Coast. It wasn't like the isn't the forties. Maybe it felt like felt like in the fifties. It felt like spa. I could have busted out my MANKINI I mean it was it felt warm today, it felt warm. It was it was good stuff. Uh, it's or my speedo, as some people would refer to it. So I got one. I got one somewhere in the closet, don't you know. Hey, it's books. I know, John, I should probably put it. I should probably get a grip.
All right. Uh, well, the big things today are you know, there's the news, the news aspect of this, and then there's the philosophical the news aspect of today's show. We got a bunch of things to get to obviously, continue negotiations over the wall, but more than anything else you have, and the aftermath of the super Bowl, some of the commercials I'm not going to waste your time giving you, Lou, I think Tom Brady's the greatest of all. Yeah, you don't care what I think about that, So we'll skip
right over that. The news that matters to us news and politics and national media discussion has to do with this just massive and growing toxic dumpster fire of Virginia politics right now, or the Virginia Democratic Party where you have a one two punch going. They're going after the governor for what is clearly racist stuff that he's lying about. I mean when I say they, I'm just talking about
Republican everybody. You've got Democrats, Schumer, Pelosi, there's a whole slew of them, Kirsten gillibrand, I mean, all these different prominent Democrats are saying that nor the means to resign after and we'll get into some of the details of it. But his apology and then I don't know if I'm apologizing. I'm not sure it was me. I did blackface another time, not that time. The guy almost busted out into a
moonwalk during a press conference over the weekend. It was man, I was trying to trying to distance myself from the new cycle of the weekend, and it was a hard thing to do because the Northam situation was just a mess, a mess. This guy's this guy is a farce, but he's still the governor. And then you get this same website, Big League Politics, that broke the story about Northam, which has been verified and is true. That same website now has run with this story about a sexual assault allegation
against the lieutenant governor of the state of Virginia. So the person that's supposed to take go over for Northam if Northam does step down, which I don't think Northam stepping down. I mean, I should probably be checking during the course of the show, because it feels like it could happen at any moment. It's amazing how little people are really focused on the fact there's a State of the Union tomorrow. I don't think the State of the Union is all that is all that interesting to preview.
I mean, we'll talk about what the President says. It's gonna be a big separation on the issue of immigration between Democrats and Republicans. We know that, so okay, we'll get into that for sure. But man, it's it's a rough time for some of these Democrats going on because
there's no way around this. I mean, they have only two options lose the governorship and possibly the lieutenant governorship from Democrat control in Virginia, a critical state for twenty twenty on all that that would mean for that state, right A lot of people that maybe voted for Northam because he seemed like he was a reasonable guy, they're going to change their minds, or they might change their
minds at least you know that possibility. It's a bad time right now for the Democratic Party in Virginia, no questions. So we'll get into some of those, some of those details, because it was just stunning over the weekend, the most bizarre apology and then walk back and then non apology
and just scrambling. I mean, Northam is at the the phase of this whole thing where I'm just waiting for him to say that hackers went back in time with a time machine and change his yearbook page from Eastern Virginia Medical University so that it would have this really racist stuff. I mean, a person dressed in a KKK costume and a person in black face next to them, and we all know that Northam is the guy in the black face and that he's saying that he's not,
but he did black face another time. It's just this is bizarre. But Democrats always collapse into this kind of incoherence because they only want to weaponize these things against Republicans. They want these standards that will be useful for shutting down or shouting down the opposition, but they don't want
to have to live under those standards themselves. We will certainly talk about about where that is, but I think there's a bigger philosophical and policy question that we need to address right now on the show, and we're going to continue to address it, and that is the increasingly favorable attitude that a lot of people are showing toward the idea of taxing the very very rich at a very high percentage. I saw this. I mean, this is
really that the Democrats war on capitalism. Okay, That's what is shaping up right now in a way that I think is surprising for some Democrats. I mean, I do think that there are Democrats who see this happening and they think, I didn't realize my party was so radical
in its redistributionist ideology. I didn't realize Democratic Party was so willing to engage in the politics of envy and going to these kinds of lengths to make it seem like anybody who has been really, really, really successful is somehow the enemy, as though you would be better able to afford your house if only some of these great
businessmen weren't quite so wealthy. You know, you would be able to afford your groceries if Jeff Bezos and Howard Schultz and Michael Bloomberg and you name it, if they weren't so rich. This is a falsehood and this is at the core of the left wing fantasy that the government can tackle these problems of inequality on a moral on a moral ground without it having negative impacts that will be very palpable to all the rest of us.
So the democrat war on capitalism, though, is gaining steam here because now remember, you know, there's no such thing as perfect capitalism. There's no such thing as perfect socialism either. So people will say, oh, book, they're not they're not opposed to capitalism, or they like this, or they like that. Okay, show me a socialist country where there haven't been big businesses, where there haven't been people that were benefiting financially. You know,
there's always class stratification in every society. There's no such thing as a classleist society. It has never existed. And there's never been a program of redistribution of wealth that has made everybody super well off and super wealthy. There. You know, there's this does not exist. Eliminating class structure
is not a thing you can achieve. The best you can have is a wealthy society where individuals have the ability to help other people based on their own initiative, based on their own community, and you know, whatever your church wants to do, whatever organizations you belong to want to help people. And everyone also has the ability to pull themselves up. You can make choices, you show up, you work, you pull yourself up, and you can advance.
That doesn't mean we all get to be billionaires. And I think part of the problem is one of expectations. We see this incredible wealth of the Zuckerbergs and the bay Zoses and the Buffets and all these different people that are so so rich. We see this and we think, well, if I can't have that, something must be wrong. Or if I can't at least have whatever I want and
those people can have that, something must be wrong. And that's how you get this polling that says seventy six percent of registered voters, according to a Politico I believe that the wealthiest Americans should pay more in taxes. Seventy percent of Americans, according to a Fox News poll, favor raising taxes on those earning over ten million dollars. That
includes fifty four percent of Republicans. Alexandria Occasio Cortez has said that she wants to slap a seventy percent marginal rate on income earned over ten million dollars that has fifty nine percent support. In a recent Hill Harris X Pole the Hill like where I work, that's our pole, political poll found that sixty one percent favor a wealth tax like the one that Elizabeth Warren is talking about.
It would be a two percent tax on those with a net worth over fifty million dollars, three percent tax on those over a billion dollars wealth not income. This is going to lead us down a very a very destructive path if we don't put a hall to it. Right now. I'm not saying that these people can't afford to pay these pay these rates. Of course they can. But you are talking about government confiscation of private property under the guise of what feels right to some radical
left wingers. It feels fair, feels right. Keep mind that money has already been taxed, those assets have already been through the process. The acquisition of those access of those assets required tax will income to be there in the first place. And life isn't fair. And I don't pretend
to tell you that it's fair. But maybe if the left had a better understanding of why capitalism is so incredible, what it is about capitalism that is so special, they would be less willing to start to take an ax to the base of it and just sort of see what happens. Because when the government can start to have a two percent wealth tax on people over fifty million, or a three percent over a billion, guess what the government could also put a wealth tax in place on
people over a million. How many of you have families that own property somewhere, or maybe you even have a family farm. Guess what your acreage alone might be worth over a million dollars. How does that get into How does that get assessed? We already have people paying taxes on land that they live on that they own. That is indicative not of an ownership society, but of a renting of your property from the government via property taxes. You don't really in a lot of places own your house.
Even if you don't own any money to the bank, you rent it from the government. This is something that we all need to understand if we're going to get closer to the truth here. But there are reasons why capitalism is so special, Yes, there's The first thing comes to mind is how much wealthier this country, yes, including the poor in this country, including the middle class in this country. How much wealthier they are in real terms
now than they would have been fifty years ago. And what you have access to in terms of food and healthcare and transportation and travel now as a middle class American as opposed to fifty years ago, and when you look at it on a global scale, then it is truly stunning the amount of misery and despair and poverty that has been alleviated specifically because of free market capitalism and its principles applied imperfectly but applied around the world
in many many places, and US here the United States, at the vanguard of that effort. The amount of people that have been brought out of poverty by and the amount of productivity and joy and leisure and health that has been derived from this process of allowing individual choice in the marketplace and individual decisions and ingenuity and innovation. It's on a scale that we can barely fathom. I
want to talk a little about why this is. I mean, I have some ideas about what it is the left does not understand or does not care to understand about capitalism and why these principles are so important right now. Yes, we have this alpha capitalist president in Trump, but we need to articulate the points so that when this fight continues, because this is a fight for the economic and with it political future of this country, we are well equipped to win. We'll also talk about Nancy Pelosi and the
wall and the negotiations over that. I got more thoughts on the border, you know, I get excited about talking the border, and then we'll step into this Northam Fairfax fiasco as it continues to unfold. We will have this is really this is really good be interstring. We will
have in the second hour of the show. The lieutenant governor who ran with Gillespie, Lieutenant Governor Bishop is going to be joining us to talk about or he would have been pardon me, would have been lieutenant governor to talk about what it was like to run against Gillespie, what I mean, sorry, run with Gillespie against North and what kind of man we're talking about here. He's gonna give you his view of what's really going on with
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That's one eight hundred flowers dot com slash buck. I stand by my statement of apology to the many Virginians who were hurt by seeing this content on a yearbook page that belongs to me. It is disgusting, it is offensive, it is racist, and it was my responsibility to recognize and prevent it from being published in the first place. I recognize that many people will find this difficult to believe.
I think people find it difficult to believe that this guy thinks that he can say these things and anyone's gonna believe him. What a pile of nonsense. And there's a better word for it. But I can't use it on the radio. You have got to be kidding me. This guy walked back his apology of his own yearbook page. Now, I will tell you that anyone who's ever posed for a photograph, if shown the photograph, can look at it and say, yeah, that's me, or no, that's not me.
Maybe if you're taken by you know, if somebody photographed you and you didn't know it, you know, maybe in certain lighting. No, But but if you stood there and you know, big smile on your face, this is a photo of me. I don't care who you are. You know it's you. It is completely not credible that he's that it's not him in the photo. Now, it's just not credible, and no person should be even asked to
believe him. But it is better, you see, for him to try to live this lie than to be honest and truthful, because if he's honest, he's not going to be able to weather this political storm. His governorship is toast. Where's the media on this. Oh, they're trying. They're trying to run all the interference for him that they can and come up with some way, some way to allow him to stay. By the way, he also said that he had previously worn black face, just not this time.
Play clip eight of what's his name saying, Michael Jackson, excuse me, that's why I have Pam with me. I had the shoes, I had a glove, and I used us a little bit of shoe polish to put under my or all my cheeks. And the reason I used a very little bit is because I don't know if anybody has ever tried that, but you cannot get shoe polosh off for I want to be honest with people. And again, as I said earlier, I discussed this with a person of color. He let me know why this
was offensive. I apologize to him, and I will never do it again. The guy is talking about the best the best practices for when he did previously put himself in black face. He's saying, you know, it's hard to get it off, so I didn't use too much. I mean, Megan Kelly lost her job at NBC for talking about black face. He didn't even do anything. We got. We gotta hold the left feet to the fire here because
they've created this fire. I'm sorry. We cannot let them do this nonsense where we all get crushed and they get to live to fight another day when it comes to these these moments of outrage. I mean, this guy, if he stays, then you know nothing has any meaning anymore. You had quite the showdown. Let's speaker, Pelosi, what did you learn about negotiating with her? Well, I think that she was very rigid, which I would expect, But I
think she's very bad for our country. She knows that you need a barrier, she knows that we need border security. She wanted to win a political point. I happen to think it's very bad politics because basically she wants open borders.
She doesn't mind human trafficking or if she wouldn't do this, she's costing the country hundreds of billions of dollars because what's happening is when you have a porous border, and when you have drugs boring in, and when you have people dying all over the country because of people like Nancy Pelosi who don't want to give proper border security for political reasons. She's doing a terrible disservice to our country. I think Trump is obviously correct when he says that
Nancy Pelosi's doing a disservice the country. But I also think that he gets closer to the truth and a lot of other Republicans when they talk about this, because he knows that she knows that what she's doing is actually bad for the country, but she doesn't care. The Democrats know they're lying to you about the border. They just don't care. Democrats know that they're being duplicitous about negotiations for a wall. They said, open up the government
and then we'll talk. The government was opened. No talking worthy of the name. These are not surprises. We know who we're dealing with on the other side. Trump certainly knows who we are dealing with on the other side, but specifically on the issue of the Democrats pushing things that they know are bad for the country. I think enough Democrats have some understanding of what the ramifications of some of the economic policies they're pushing would be, but
they simply don't care. They know that it is an emotional touch point for their base. It is a way to mobilize people. We all have disappointments, we all have our resentments. There are things that bother us about the way that our day to day goes or how things are happening, and there what's going on in the country. And coming up with a narrative that allows them blame
to be placed on the other is very potent. This is powerful, and to do this through the prism of class warfare is increasingly going to be the central mantra you see from the Democrats. This is what they're going to do. It's all about the big rich, fatcats. It'll be kind of a retread of what you heard during
the Occupy Wall Street era. But remember Occupy Wall Street fizzled, and it didn't just fizzle because it was a bunch of pseudo hippies with iPads playing in drum circles fizzled because Barack Obama was president during that couldn't get the hardcore left that upset with as leftist a president as
Barack Obama in charge. But now things are different. Now you have an ultra capitalist of sorts in President Trump in office, and that means that the agitation and the community organizing from the left is much more likely to succeed here, which then just brings me to what I think is an important component of this discussion on capitalism that you probably won't hear elsewhere, and it doesn't get nearly enough attention when we think of the successes of
capitalism today, the kind of stuff that Occasio Cortez will point to. We look at these Internet era mega companies Facebook and Amazon and Google and many others, and we understand that there's a big upside in terms of convenience and connectivity and communication that they bring to us. There are also some downsides. I increasingly think that social media is probably you know, and even split as to whether it's really good for us in the end or not
good for society or not. But if you want to understand what is so incredible about the system that we have, thinking smaller and simpler terms, think more about the Walmart effect on this country, or the Ikea effect in this country as a result of free markets and capitalism and individual innovation, that you can go into a store. I mean, here's one example for me. I got a beard trimmer today.
I got a beard trimmer for about forty bucks. Now, people always put down the cheap products that we get from overseas and how that's not going to make you know, there's this whole mentality in the right of that's not going to make you happy, that's not going to make you fulfill. Oh yeah, okay, fine. No one's saying that my beard trimmer is an existential issue. But I now I have my beard trimmer. I know that it's going
to work. I mean, of course, there's always going to be some product effects, but it never really crosses my mind that this thing that I'm opening up isn't going to work. I know it'll work for a long time. I know that the different pieces and components of that beard trimmer have been put together by people who specialize in doing just that. They think about, how do I build the best beard trimmer? What does the guards so I don't cut myself and how does that work? Who
comes up with the battery? What size should the battery be? How expensive should the battery be? That goes into this, because it's going to be affective of the overall price. We are surrounded and the point that I'm really trying to make here is that we are surrounded by miracles of capitalism large and small. This is astonishing that you can walk into the store and buy all the things that you can buy and know that they're not gonna make you sick. They're gonna do what they say they're
gonna do. It's gonna be the same product over and over again. That there are people who are building better ones all the time. You know, we take some of this for granted now, just the notion of building a better mousetrap. You know, that's just a cliche. Right. I'll tell you something. Everything that you are interacting with in your day to day life is affected by capitalism for
the better. Whether it's the ability to buy furniture. I mean, you can now set up set up a home comfortably on a budget that even twenty or thirty years ago, you know, could probably get you a bed. I mean, you have seen such an explosion of productivity we all have and it's because of specialization, innovation and the micro corrections that are only possible when people are self self interested, when they actually benefit from making changes to make little
things better. You know, never it's all the stuff you hear about, you know, the devils and the details. You know, be a details guy. It's the details that count. We see a computer, We see I have a Mac laptop sitting in front of me right now. It's it's incredible. I mean, it's more computing power than the entire NATO Alliance would have had in nineteen fifty. You know, it's more than we had when we went to the moon. I'm sitting right with it right in front of me.
But don't think of it just as Apple as this genius company that's worth a close to a trillion dollars now, And think of it in all the people that worked on this screen, all the man hours that went into this keyboard that works, It works, it functions. If you want an appreciation for how capitalism has made your life better and why, the redistribution of wealth and the removal of micro corrections in processes, the removal of incentives for innovation,
because remember, innovation is also about risk. Innovation is to do something that may fail. You're not going to do things that will fail if you feel like there's nothing in it for you. See, capitalism harnesses what is true of human nature and creates a system that produces benefit fits for everyone without trying to negate that basic trait of human nature. It's brilliant, it's not perfect. Nothing is perfect. Right,
democracy is brilliant. It's not perfect. Nothing is perfect. But the Democrats don't even really the ones that are talking in this way, the ones that are taking this radical left attitude about you didn't build that, Obama voice this too, You didn't build that. Obama had never built anything. He built the cult of Obama. Didn't understand how to run a business, didn't understand how to produce or create a
product other than himself. He was the product. He was a politician, and now he's, you know, gonna be worth one hundred million dollars if he's not already by being the product. But the rest of us can't do that, and by the way, the rest of us don't really benefit very much from that. You're surrounded every day by the miracles of capitalism, so much so that it's hard for us, even me as I sit here and talk to you in this microphone that cost a couple of
hundred bucks. That is world class. I mean crystal clear right in my computer that I'm in the same computer now for five or six years. Never broken down on me. I use this thing every day. This is my life's blood in terms of my work is in this computer. It never breaks down on me. Knock on wood. You know, I'm going to go into a refrigerator full of food that is shipped to me in timely fashion, in timely fashioned. It's not spoiled. It's going to taste the way I
wanted to taste. These are all the miracles of capitalism. Life was not this way before. Life involved everything you eat. Hopefully it's okay. Maybe a little bit of risk to it though every product you buy, you know, buy or beware. You gotta hope that maybe you get lucky this time around, trusting the craftsmanship of the individual making it. Just think
of what you do. I don't know if you have quite the same amount of panic as I do and this happens, but think about how when your phone goes dead. My phone's gone dead a few times for different reasons. When your phone goes dead, you feel like you are Tom Hanks in the movie cast Away all of a sudden, and your only friend is the volleyball name Wilson. You know,
you just are out there with nothing. And that's because we're all so used to things around us working and being efficient, being effective, and there is a there's a real human benefit to this. I have to spend less time worrying about these things because other people worry about them for me, because they benefit from them working. You know, you get into the fundamentals of why the system works as well as it does, and democrats are spitting on it.
Not all of them, not all of them, but even the Pelosi's of the world, who have benefited enormously from the very system I'm talking about. Belows he's a very wealthy woman, married a very rich guy, very wealthy woman.
They're allowing this rhetoric of the war in the Ukazia Cortez is to overtake the truth in this situation, which is that the more individuals are incentivized with clearly defined rules and laws around them, sure, but the more individuals are incentivized to pursue specialization and excellence in everything they do, the better off we all will be as a society. Excellence,
by the way, is possible and everything. Excellence is possible in high tech products that will change the world, that's possible. And how you make a cheeseburger every day for customers, it's possible. On how you open a door, how you drive the truck that you're in right now that delivers
necessary goods to people all across the country. Excellence is possible for all of us in everything that we do, and capitalism tries to bring that out and celebrate it in all of us, which is why it is such a magnificent system that has produced so much benefit around the world. And we have seen the other side of this coin. We know what happens. We have the history
to prove it. When you rely on in elite of all knowing, whether the revolutionaries or technocrats or whatever you want to call them, to make these determinations for us. We only need one kind of soap, We only need one kind of shoe. This is the best shoe, and we'll make it the best way. But nobody else should be making shoes. We'll do it for you, and we'll give it to you for free. We know what happens.
The shoes stink, well, not necessarily literally, but the shoes are not good and there's not enough of them to go around anyway. It's basic human nature and we're talking about the building blocks of our society here, and I just wish Democrats would stop playing games with something that has meant so much to human beings around the world for the last hundred years. We'll be right back. He should step down and start his road to read. Being
governor of a state is not an entitlement. What is clear is it's time for Governor Ralph Northam to step aside. I think that the governor should resign. I think he's shown himself sort of damaged in terms of his ability to govern. Governor Northam is a man without a party after his disastrous press conference, he has no credibility and no ability to lead. Once I had picture where the black face and the clansman came out, there is no way you can continue to be the governor of the
Commonwealth of Virginia. He cannot serve. It's time for him to resign. He should resign. So disturbing, so racist hasn't resigned yet. Northam still governor Virginia. John, what do you think, man? You think he's going to resign? He has to, he has, he asked you, right, I mean, how well, what's he hanging on for? Then? Maybe it's to give a little more time for the lieutenant governor gets some stuff in order here. But he's got all these people coming out
saying he needs to resign. It's the whole thing. It's just amazing, dude. Did we play the thing where he said that he might actually where he made it, seeing that he might be willing to moonwalk? Did we already play that? This is amazing? Guys. So he's at this he's at this press conference, which was a just an epic fail of a press conference. I don't know how else to say. I mean, it was just as bad of a press conference as you'll see anywhere anytime involving
a politician. You know, he says that it's not him in the photo when it clearly is him in the photo. I mean, this guy is he's lying? I mean, you know he's oj looking for the real killers at this point, this just makes no sense. Why is anyone going to believe this guy? But as if that wasn't bad enough, he raised the idea because he said that he had used shoe polish to do blackface to play Michael Jackson in a dance contest. I mean, it's just the details
here are wow. He raised the possibility. It's the governor of Virginia, folks, an important state. This is the governor. Okay, the guy's at the top of the of the executive hierarchy for that state. And here's what he said, play Cliff nine. Yes, that's right. Inappropriate, My wife says, inappropriate circumstances. So you had a reporter there. If you could see the video, it's a little clearer, but i'll just talk you through it quickly. You had a reporter there who said,
can you still moonwalk? And Northam is like well, and he kind of like makes it like maybe he's about to do it. And then his wife, who's next to him, she's obviously going through a rough ordeal here. She's like, no, no no, no, inappropriate circumstances, as in, don't Joe moonwalk right now? You moron, what are you thinking? That's what That's what we've come to here with this guy in all these democrats that I think of, who wrote it
for Northam? Over Gillespie because Northam was the you know, the sound choice, the reasonable choice, the not racist choice. How does that feel now? That didn't age very well, as the kids say, or just as people say, that did not age well at all. We got the lieutenant governor who would be lieutenant governor who ran with Gillespie
joining us here in just a moment. I mean, I think you really need to hear from him about what it was like to run against Northam and to run against Fairfax, and how those guys played the game and how dirty they fought. And he wouldn't even shake He wouldn't even shake his hand. Well, come back, we'll talk more. A lot of people have heard of the AARP, and you might be a member, but did you know the AARP is a lefty organization when it comes to seniors,
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I believe you deserve to hear directly from me. That photo and the racist and offensive attitude that represents does not reflect that person I am today, or the way that I have conducted myself as a soldier, a doctor, and a public servant. I am deeply sorry. I cannot change the decisions I made, nor can I undo the harm my behavior calls then and today. But I accept responsibility for my past actions and I am ready to
do the hard work of regaining your trust. So there you have Governor of Virginia, Democrat, despite CNN listing him as a Republican when this verse broke interesting, you have Governor Northam talking about this photo in the year book that came up from nineteen eighty four from a medical school in Virginia that he attended. Originally apologized, then he said he wasn't sure that it was him in the photo. Now he says he's not in the photo, but he
did blackface another time. It's just nonsense. I mean, this is crazy stuff that we're seeing from the Democrats in a desperate scramble to maintain the governorship of a very important state. Well, I want to bring on somebody who can shed a particular light on what's going on in Virginia and Virginia politics and knows some of these players personally. We are joined down by Bishop E. W. Jackson. He
is with us now. He was the GOP nominee for lieutenant governor in Virginia, and he can tell us a bit about his own experiences and his thoughts on this whole matter. Bishop Jackson, thanks so much for joining us.
Thanks for having me. All right, So, first of all, I want to ask you, I mean, is this at all a surprise to you that this has come out about northumb I mean, I can go back pretty easily and see that Northam was running some very incendiary ads and very clearly going after his opponent, which was at the top of your ticket for the Republican side of things in Virginia, with the accusations of racism. Now it turns out that Northam has a racist pas, what do
you make of this? Bishop, I may be the one person in the Commonwealth of Virginia who is not surprised, although anybody was following our race fostly saw that and were shocked that the mainstream media absolutely dismissed it. And we know that had it been a white conservative refusing to shake the hand of a black liberal, it would have been front page news the very next day. It
would have been a major scandal. But I'm not surprised because look, I was on the campaign trail with the man who saw him and had to interact with him many times, and I was told, well, he's a nice guy, he's a Southern gentleman. He is the only person that I've ever run against who I found treated me with and I've never said anything personal. I don't do that. I don't attack people personally. We kept it strictly on policy.
But when he refused to shake my hand for the first time ever running for any office, I thought, you know what, I'm dealing with a bona fide racist and this man does not want me to touch him. And so this came out and I thought, yep, exactly what I suspected. And now the tickets have co home to roost. Here you are, you're talking about this instant that occurred after debate. You're a well known politician the state of Virginia.
You're also a former Marine Corps veteran and a black American who is trying to represent his state, in his community and his fellow Americans. And this guy won't shake your hand. You rightly point out that if you just changed a little bit here in terms of political affiliation, it's a big story. Did the Virginia never mind, the national press, pay much attention all the fact this guy wouldn't even shake your hand. They paid virtually no attention
to it whatsoever. I mean, I had a lot of republic who and conservatives asked me what was that about? Why would he not shake your hand? And I mean, if not, is it for people who have seen the take? They can get it on if they haven't seen. They can get it on YouTube. All they guys can do is google Northam versus Jackson and handshake or something like that.
But I reached out and he did not even acknowledge my presence, and so then I tapped him on his arm because see me, And when I did, he absolutely acted as if I was not there. Even at the end of the debate. He never looked at me and smiled or acknowledge me in any way. So yeah, it was definitely a really despicable way of behaving. And I'd never seen anybody do anything like that on the campaign trail.
And is it it fair to say that the way that Northam ran against Gillespie, who was a well known guy in Republican circles, And look, I know a lot of people that know ed, and they all say he's also just really a really nice guy and a good guy. And they worth those campaign trashed him as a racist. Well I know ed too, I had attest to that
it is a nice guy. Northom portrayed him as a racist, basically a child predator who was out hunting down kids in a pickup truck with a Confederate flag on the bat and has minority kids running and panic that this man is out to get them. And this is how he depicted Ed Gillestie as a racist child predator. I mean, it was so despicable that I when it, I just thought, you know, that is beneath contempt. And he'll say, oh, well, that wasn't really me. But he didn't dennounce it either.
He didn't say there's no place for that kind of rhetoric or communications in politics. He was happy to endorse it with his silence, if not with his approval. So, yeah, I don't even want to hear it. This guy to me, and you know, and the thing is, to me, this represents so the dirty little secret of the Democrat Party, which is they use race to try to sneer Republicans, to sneer Conservatives and manipulate black people. But behind the scenes, the very thing they're accusing others of is a very
thing that Stayed themselves are guilty of. We're speaking to Bishop Earl Walker Jackson, who is a politician. He was the lieutenant governor on the lieutenant governor ticket rather running with Ed Gillespie against Northam and also against the current Lieutenant governor of Virginia Justin Fairfax, who has also gotten into some hot water in the last couple of days. So I want to ask you, Bishop. You know, here we have an allegation of sexual assault from a while ago,
about fifteen years ago. I believe Washington Post says that they were approached with this and they refused to run it because they couldn't verify it. Now that's the same Washington Post that ran with a lot of stories about Brett Kavanaugh. I want to know what you think about this allegation. How should we How should the people of Virginia and across the country gauge this allegation against Lieutenant Governor Justin Fairfax, also a Democrat African American at the
bottom of the ticket with Northam. What do you think we should do about this, Lieutenant Governor? Well, first of all, I don't want to make this about me, even just to point out the double standards when they were investigating me, and they did extensively when I was running against out Ralph Northam. They ran bad stories and speculated, well, we can't verify all of this, but we think you all ought to know because we think the man is a liar.
We think there's something wrong with him. So this mindset that they had, I mean, I say, if they'd investigated Ralph Northam at the depth to which they investigated me, he would have never have been elected. I would have been elected lieutenant governor. I believe that. But nevertheless, yet
the Democrats are great at hypocrisy. I don't know whether these allegations are true or not true, but there is a pattern within the Democrat Party for doing the very things that they accuse other than doing in order to further their own political agenda and and quest for power. So we'll see what this all proves to be. I don't want to come to a conclusion yet, but it would not surprise me because if Democrats are expert at anything,
if Liberals are expert at anything, it is hypocrisy. Can I ask you, can ask you, Bishop, what kind of for the folks listening across the country, what kind of media hostility, and what kind of oppo research from the media and from groups that are hired specifically to do opa resent What kind of stuff were you up against running for lieutenant African American Republican would be lieutenant governor in the state of Virginia, and look I say all
the time, I owe my country a great deal. I love this country, and so I don't tap myself on the back, like you know, I'm some great somebody. But but I start as a foster child. I grew up in the poverty. And what the Washington Post did, what the what the mainstream media did. They never gave me any credit for having gone from that to Harvard Law School, having practice law, having nothing. They went and investigated my background.
They tried to prove that my so called foster care was a middle class home, that it really did have an indoor fass room, and it did not, and it was not a middle class home. They tried to prove that I hadn't gone to Harvard Divinity School. They tried to prove that I'd never been a chaplain for the Red Sox. They went about their business trying to disprove my background, to show that I was not sort of a Horatio Alger story, somebody who started for nothing and
had made something of himself. They were trying to tear me down every turn. That's what I faced. You know what Ralph Norton faced. He faced puff pieces that about how great he was, and oh the compassion, and he's a great pediatrician. They didn't talk about his radical views on a portion. They didn't say anything about this stuff that I believe they probably knew, saying I just don't believe if they could investigate me that way, they either knew or they simply chose not to know what Ralph
Northam had really did and what he really was. Bishop Jackson, before we let you go, should Ralph Northam resign? Yes, absolutely, he would resign. Look, we're not going to get any bargains in justin Fairfax by any stretch of the imagination. He's got his own problems. He's another race vader as far as I'm concerned. I saw him do it in an LG campaign against Joe Vogel, accused her of racism because she questioned his experience. Well, that's you know, I mean,
that's a fair question. Do you have the experience to be the head of the state Senate and so forth? But he oh, that was a racial play. So but you know what, Ralph Northam doesn't deserve to beat to sit in the seat that Patrick Henry and Thomas Jefferson. There's so many other illustrious leaders to stay in. He needs to go. All right, Bishop, we really appreciate your time. Thank you so much for joining us. Oh, thank you
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tells you exactly what this smear is all about. The story because it was not credible, because it was uncorroborated, and what we know is that it's false and defamatory.
And so this person then went into hiding and laid low and the weeds to have someone manipulate the press and to come out a year ago, fail at getting that into the media, then go away, and then when they think they have an opportunity at maximum media attention point to come back again with the same false, uncorroborated allegation tells you everything you need to know about the falsity of it, about you know, the person who's making the allegation, and also about the environment that we're in.
What a week for Virginia politics. Pretty crazy stuff going on here. Okay, you know you have Northam his governorship on life support. I think he thinks, and he may even manage to make it through. But you have to add into that now that you have Lieutenant Governor Fairfax, who would be the man to be elevated to the governorship if Northam did in fact have to resign, which you've had I think Pelosi and Schumer and a lot
of big Democrats saying he resigns. He should resign because they know that this is this is a liability for the Democrats. It's too big of a liability that they can't explain this one away. They don't have a means of making it anything other than obvious that there's a double standard in play here. So they're willing, i think, to let Northam get sacrifice. But Northam and the Democrats and the far left pro abortion progress, they're fighting to the very last here. But now you have Fairfax, who
was accused of a sexual assault. Now he says it was consensual. This this is a classic he said, she said situation. From what we have so far, we don't have that much information to go on here. What we have is that this website, the same one that initially posted the Northam photo, Big League Politics, ran an update that quote Stanford fellow hints at possible justin Fairfax sex assault. And this is the same this is the same site that broke the Northam story, which is clearly true. I
mean Northam. Northam had racist, racist crap on his face and his Facebook on his yearbook page, and now he was just telling lies in a desperate attempt to hold keep his job. Okay, Northam's a liar and it's pathetic. But that that same website now has put out this other story. Now, this is very interesting because I would generally want to take the position of we should wait
for there to be evidence. We shouldn't we shouldn't take actually against people without proof, and they should have an ability to respond to charges, both criminally and in the so called court of public opinion. I don't like that phrase, even because public opinion is not a court. But he should be able to respond to this. And here's my problem. The Washington Post knew about this allegation of a sexual assault. It sounds like, you know, sexual assault is a broad
enough term. It could be a rape. I don't know, but certainly some form of sexual assault. Washingtonst knew about this a year ago, did not run it, didn't go with the story presented to them. A woman named on the record said this happened. They didn't want to run it. They said it's uncorroborated. And I can't help but look at this story and say, where was that streak of caution and journalistic integrity from every major newspaper in the on the East Coast and really across the country except
for the Wall Street Journal when it came to Brett Kavanaugh. Uncorroborated, just bizarre, incredible in the sense of hard to believe, allegation after allegation, with information contradicting or contravening the stories presented, and the Washington Post had not an iota of the skepticism shown during the Kavanaugh hearings, as they did obviously when it came to Fairfax and a Democrat, as an African American Democrat as lieutenant governor of Virginia. So this
is the problem I have. We see this once again with Northam. The standard that the left has created for conservatives, for Republicans is doesn't matter how old it is. Racist stuff gets you fired. Racist stuff gets you kicked out of public life. Do I think that's a good standard. No, But do we have any prayer of changing that standard without the left having to live under it too, I
don't think so. So Northam's got to go now. You also have a standard set up during the Cavanaugh debacle, when the Left was trying so desperately to destroy him. The standard was women have a right to be believed. The standard was an allegation is enough to destroy someone's career, to stop them from holding a job, and to ruin their life. That was the standard the left was operating it.
Or now, because Avenati is a clown, and because the third accuser against Cavanaugh was clearly a liar, a vicious, evil, deranged liar, it didn't work. But the standard the press was operating under at the time was the allegation is enough. Women have a right to be believed. So if we're going to take the same approach with Northam, which is that we have to make the left live under its own rules, as we do with Fairfax, why should the media get a pass for bearing this story? Why was
this never reported? Woman accuses politician of They're not saying it happened, They're saying there's a woman who's making the accusation. How is that not a news story? This is how the left cheats. This is how the media helps Democrats. When we are seeing it in more than one major instance. Do not forget it. And we shouldn't get to a place where there are people yelling from the rafters that because you have been successful, you are a bad person
and we're gonna be punitive to you. That's to me, the antithesis of the spirit of the country. I agree with Schultz, the former CEO of Starbucks, and I have found this whole circumstance of Schultz getting just piled on by Democrats very illuminating with regard to the direction and trajectory of that party and how it feels about entrepreneurship and success and innovation. But I want to bring on somebody who actually does all those things, innovation, entrepreneurship, and success,
and who also served as country and Special Operations. That's right, it is our friend, the foundered CEO of Black Rifle Coffee, Evan Hayfer, is in the house. Evan, thanks for making the time for us. Fuck, man, it's great to tie do you haven't talked to you for too long? Yeah? I know, man, I'm glad we get to catch up here.
Off the catch up in person. Soon, tell me what your thoughts are man as somebody who's running a rapidly growing successful company, great American brand obviously a partner here on the show, which we tremendously appreciate, But when you hear the demonization of success that's coming from very powerful quarters and very mainstream voices with regard to running a business and growing a business, what do you think about? Well, I think there's a couple different things that we have
to really just unpack, which is demonization of success. Literally have to define where does the success come from? And how has the person been successful? Right? And I think growing a business and when you have a business, for instance, like Black Rifle Coffee or Coffee Company X one, you have to work through a lot of complex problems in order to get to what anybody would define as success
and not only succeeding. You can't just put place a number on it and say, well, we've defined because we've made millions of dollars? Well, are we an ethical company that supports our community in a way? When I say this, I promote American values. But that's part of being a successful company is not only having a successful transaction with my customers, but also I need a company that promotes American values and constitutional beliefs, the fabric in DNA of
this country. So I think when people demonize Schultz, and I think for the wrong reasons, by the way, which is probably one of the only things we would agree on for success. This is this narrative where if you have wealth in this country, you're evil. And I think that's such a simplistic way to look at things. And I think the progressive millennial looks very much at wealth
and success as evil and they just want to demonize it. Now, Ivan, your special operations vet as people listen to the show, and who know Black Rifle know from part of your story. So you're you're a guy who's used to getting told to do the near impossible and to do it with limited stuff and with a smile. Right now, you're in
the private sector. Though, if, for example, that to expand a little bit on the stuff that we're hearing, you know what would happen to your business If if o'cazio Quarte has got to show up to Black Rifle Coffee and just said, you know what, Evan, I just think you should pay whatever you're paying your workers. Just pay them double. Now, I know you treat your guys well, but what would happen if you just got a mandate from the government to just pay everybody double what you're
paying them right now? What would that do to your business? Oh, we would have it would destroy the business. Because you know, and this is the progressive pipe dream from people that have little to zero experience building successful businesses and or working through capitalism in order to achieve financial successes. They think that because you have or you have made one dollar,
that dollar goes right back into your bank account. They have no concept of reality when it comes to running a business in one providing payment for services rendered and compensation for a fair job. So if you have a barista or somebody that's serving coffee, there's a wage out there that you can pay in order to that's a fair wage based on market to get a qualified barista
to come in and serve coffee. If you double that wage, just arbitrarily based on government, a government mandate that has zero knowledge or complexity to how businesses run, this is how you would literally collapse an entire economy within a category.
So it would be the same thing if there to increase a tax burden on the small business without fairly looking at how to adjust or comprehend what's called the P and L. Right, there's just no way a government, when I say this, a government elected official, zero business experience, has the ability to look at salary or compensation and make an arbitrary decision. They that would be a catastrophe. It would be a nightmare. What I call it dumpster fire.
Evan Hayfer's CEO of Black Rifle Coffee. As you're listening, you better already be drinking black Rifle. If you're not, though, you know where to go to get it, folks. Um Evan, you know did to your point? Also about about taxes, I mean we hear a lot from from the Democrats these days. They say the taxes only only went to the rich. But what is a change in You know, you're dealing with operating expenses, with the reality of running a rapidly growing business, but a business that still has
to deal with what is the cost of stuff? What are you paying stuff? You know, the numbers matter. What does a what does a drastic reduction in the corporate tax rate mean? For for example, black Rifle? Well, I think people have this this you know, I don't want to say people, and I think I want to define progressive. Millennials have this idea that you're once again when we go back to this dollar where hey, if you if you pull a dollar in from a transaction, you just
keep this dollar. And they think if you make thirty cents on that dollar, that just goes back into your bank account, and then wealthy people just pile it up in big pools of gold and they jump off their diving boards into it. That's just such a flawed interpretation of business and it's such a naive perspective. What happens is if the government takes less of our money, that
money is reinvested into the company. So I get to hire more people because my ability to scale and grow a business also is one of our missions and our mandates is to continue to emancipate and provide opportunity for veterans. So I want to scale my business. I want to create more gross revenue because that means more jobs for veterans.
So what I do is I take that the ten percent difference if the government was to decrease my tax burden, I rolled that back into my company in a way that makes the most value for the company and creates the greatest amount of impact for my mission, which is to employ and empower veterans. And you know this is just a simplification or a summation of what you just said would be. You know what to do with that dollar better than the government does. Oh absolutely. You know,
this year we've been really fortunate. We've we've given back into veteran and veteran entrepreneur causes plus law enforcement causes to the tune of about four hundred thousand dollars this year, which is three times as much as I gave back last year, which is also when when I say this, we've every year we've been able to give back more than I've ever taken out of the company. Like individually, I think that's a huge when I say that. For the company to be able to do that, that's one
of our charters. And I know what to do because I'm an ethical steward of my customer's dollar. I know what to do with that dollar. I also know great nonprofits where people put their money to work. Evan Hey for Everybody's CEO of Black Rifle Coffee obviously one of our favorite sponsors here on the show, but also a company that's doing great stuff and somebody who's on the
front lines of growing a great American brand. So we talk about what is the reality of wages and taxes and policies that either can be pro growth and capitalistic or trending toward the AOC socialistic side. We've got somebody who can actually talk to us about what that means like day to day. Evan, Tell your guys, I'm coming down to San Antonio sometimes to shoot some guns, to drink some coffee. All right, man, you've got to get down here. Buck. We miss you. Man, You're welcome anytime.
You know where the guns and the coffee are. They're always a black rifle coffee. I'm into it, my friend. I'll be talking to you soon. Thanks so much for joining us, Evan. Hey for a black rifle. So I don't have to tell you that the Super Bowl is boring. You probably watched it and realize, yes, the right team won, the Patriots with a better team, no question. But the Super Bowl has that experienced in terms of it brings people together. I watch it with my family, Miss Molly.
We had a great time, eat a lot of delicious barbecue. We had a lot of fun. Okay. And this is also where I know, if I start talking sports, you're gonna say, Buck, you talking about football and trying to analyze it in any serious way is like listening to an Eskimo talk about how to you know, surf? You know that it's just not really part of the part of the equation that all said. The ads and the
politics of the ads. I found so many of the ads to be smarmy, a little weirdly, condescending, trying way too hard. I mean that Andy Warhol ad for I guess it was was it burger king was just garbage, just was not good. Wasn't a good ADU. There are many ads that were not good ads, but the war dumpster fire of all in terms of the ads that were running during the Super Bowl. In my opinion, which I guess I always share with you on the show, is is the Washington Post. Add that I remember the
Washington Post. It's got a sugar daddy with the owner and CEO of Amazon, Jeff Bezos, who funds the Washington Post. Now, so, whether the Washington Post is even a successful venture or not, it's it's hard to say because so much of what the Washington Post does is going to be subsidized in some way by its association with Jeff Bezos, And there's a lot of ways to hide stuff on the books. But journalists are obsessed with themselves, and people who say
to me, will buck your journalist. I do not claim to be a journalist. I'm not a journalist, and I view my role as as actually kicking out from under them this phony, this phony foundation of journalists are the firefighters of democracy. Journalists are these incredible, brave truth tellers. No, journalists are very much like Hollywood actors. It's a big industry. There's a lot of money in it, but it's full of incredibly vain, venal, self loving, self interested, thin skinned
bad people. There are a lot of bad people in this industry. You know. This is why I'll say the same thing about Hollywood. But that doesn't mean you know, I think you know, Jimmy Woods, for example, is a great actor and a hilarious political commentary guy. I think there are you know, there are other actors. I mean, just because I make fun of Hollywood doesn't mean I'm not going to give all props in respect to Gary Sinisee for all the very real work that he does
helping veterans and recognizing it. He's also a successful actor, but a guy who puts his money where his mouth is, you know what I mean. So you can criticize an industry, it doesn't mean you're indicting everybody in it. Journalists or terror journalists are very annoying, bad people for the most part. They have a skill set that's not in any way unique, and there's a lot of just sucking up and trying to make the right friend group and they just sort
of go from there. That's why this Washington Post ad was just almost too much to stomach. I mean it was. It was an appalling exercise in self licking ice cream cone five million dollars worth. How many unemployed BuzzFeed writers, how many unemployed huff Post bloggers could you pick up for five million dollars for a sixty second ad. Here's the let's just listen to this, this pompous, stupid ad
played twenty four. When we go off to war, when we exercise our rights, when we or to our greatest heights, when we mourn and pray, when our neighbors are at risk, when our nation is threatening, there's someone to gather the facts to bring you the story, no matter the cost, because knowing empowers us, Knowing helps us decide, Knowing keeps us great. We don't need journalist for any of that. We don't. Information now travels with such frequency in such
a volume. The idea that we have to have these gatekeepers to provide this kind of information, I mean, you're sure you need some people to be but there'll always be people that are sharing this information won't bear another. We do not need a professional class of journalists so that we are an informed democracy. We have plenty of ways of getting information from, whether it's citizen journalists or you know, this idea that we have to have all
these people. There's a lot of great local journalism that's done. We don't need the Washington Post to exist, folks. This
is really what it comes down to. We don't actually need this class to be in place to try to tell us what the truth is because they lie, because they're biased, because they're self interested in this whole process in a way they'reffused to accept, and just a few things, you know, when they had the whole opportunity to tell us about the threats that face us, and they could have picked They could have picked nine to eleven to show us something. You know from nine eleven, you know
what they picked. That's right, Oklahoma City the favorite terrorist attack of the progressive left, because it's the terrorists stack that they point to you to say, see, the threat from mean white nationalists is just as bad as a threat from radical Islam. They play this game all the time. It's pathetic, it's so weird. No normal person would ever think that this is the case, but they will do it.
They did it in this ad, and there's just a lot of a lot of stuff that you see from their own little montage here where you say to yourself, a hold on a minute, why do we need to support media organizations? I would note that have been around for a long time. What does that really mean? That's
just a perception issue, right. If we were to look at the way the media has operated over time, you'd say to yourself, shouldn't some of the really old newspapers Since newspapers are going away and it's all online and digital now, shouldn't they give way to other organizations? Isn't it the natural order of things that the New York Times, which was about to go under but was saved by Carlos Slim. Oh, that's right, and they had a remarkable
turn toward open borders editorializing. All of a sudden, the New York Times went from caring about the African American and white working class and the downward pressure on wages from mass illegal immigration to there's no problem with that at all. We're a melting pot immigrants through the jobs Americans won't do right around with Carlos Slim took a huge stake in and effectively saved the New York Times.
Look at the Washington Post with Jeff Bezos. What does the Washington Post turn into without Bezos's infusion of cash? And also, why do we like to tell ourselves or why do journalists like to constantly tell us that they are independent when we know that they have their bread getting buttered from certain people with certain kinds of ideologies. It's just the whole thing was just pathetic. We don't
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Frank Acid Drew movie. I was not hospitalized. Both my doctors in LA and Chicago needs to perform because they has taken care obviously, and above all, I fought back. Jessie Smollett or Smollett is now becoming a household name because of this story that has been getting a lot of media attention that he as he is an actor, he's in the show Empire, and is African American and is gay, and he claims that he was attacked by
two redneck maga hat wearing racists. The claim was that there, and the story has been shifting here and there, of course, but the claim is that these two guys came up to him and attacked him, sprayed some chemical on his face, and then put a noose around his neck. I mean didn't tighten it and try to actually strangle him, but put a noose around his neck in a hate crime attack. The President heard about this, he said, sounds horrible. It's
the most horrible thing. Everyone's saying. It's a horrible thing. So let me preface this by saying, if somehow this were true, then of course it is a terrible thing. Assaulting anybody on the street. Assaulting any in the street because you don't like the way they look, or you don't like what their ethnicity is, or because you are anti gay, any of these things disgusting, disgraceful conduct that should be punished to the fullest extent of the law.
Let's just put that out there. Okay, Now, let's look at the details of this case. Because that was Jesse Smollett gave a performance this weekend. He could tell people are all, oh, he's some kind of a hero now, and he said he fought back. Well, so far, there have been a few problems with this whole narrative. For one, he wore the noose, this rope around his neck and wore it when he went home, and there was another person present when he called the police when he went home. Now,
if somebody put a noose around your neck. I understand wanting to keep it for evidentiary purposes, but you're just gonna keep wearing it again. I'm not saying it just qualifies the story, but it raises questions also that two guys would in Chicago be carrying a noose on them and then they happen to find this African American gay actor on the street and then threw a noose around his neck and gently bruised his face and threw some weird chemical on him as yet undescribed or unknown, and
yelled this is Maga country. Strikes me as a very implausible thing. Implausible does not mean impossible, It just means implausible. Now, let's add to that police asked for access to his phone and with his manager during the sixty second window. It's only a sixty second window where he claims he was attacked, and all this happened when he happens to be away surprise from surveillance cameras. The two people identified his subjects of interest in the surveillance cameras. Already, it
has since been shown that they are local. They are local vagrant and not considered to be suspects in this attack. So yet another thing to cross off the list, but Smollett claimed that he was on the phone with his manager at the time of the attack, and so police wanted to know if they could look at his phone and see if maybe this, you know, there's some corroborating information information, And he said, no, you can't have access
to my phone. Now, I know people are rushing in to say, what if he has uh, you know, naughty pictures on there or you know, civil liberties and blah blah. Okay, but you know he's not a suspect. He is a victim and a complainant here right, He's the one who was saying he was attacked. Usually when someone is the victim, they don't say, oh no, you can't. You can't come into my home and look for evidence get a warrant. Well, if you're saying somebody burglarize your home and the cops
want to take evidence, don't you let them in. I think that that's the people say, oh, Buck, would you tell people, because I got some heat, including from some journos over the weekend, would you tell some people that the Mueller probe should just have access to their phone. First of all, the Muller probe party has whatever communications they've done if they want it. And second of all, no,
because they're suspects, they're targets of the probe. When you're the victim of something, you have to share the information necessary to try to get the bad guys right. So that's highly suspect to me. Now, let me tell you what I think the possibilities are here. Based on the evidence so far, I see the three possibilities. One is that this bizarre but hateful attack really happened and all this stuff. I give that a one in a hundred shot right now. I'm not saying zero, one in a hundred.
It would be the shock of my you know, of my decade if this were true. Maybe highly unlikely, though another possibility, this is completely fabricated. He made this whole thing up for attention, and it's effectively a very a very easy way to raise his national profile. Tournament is some kind of a hero. And even if he gets caught, remember all you to do is say, well, I was
raising awareness about a real problem. And as sure as you know, night follows day the media will come out and say, well, maybe he lied, but he did it for a good reason. So he's still a hero. Even though he lied that the media has done this before with hate crime hoaxes, just raising awareness. I want to put out there a third possibility because this one, this one, I see as being a little even, maybe a little more likely. Maybe maybe he did have some little scuffle
on the street. Maybe he exchanged words with some people man, and maybe they didn't like the way he or something else. But maybe there was just some quick exchange and then he decided to add all these other details on top of it, knowing that as long as there was some basis for this, he was on pretty solid ground reporting it to the police. Maybe he did get you know, someone did smack him in the face or something because
he exchanged words with them. But it was an opportunity to tell this whole story about MAGA oppression and the bad Trump people and MAGA hats and all this, and he just took it. So it's essentially taking a kernel of truth and making this whole, this whole creative and very useful story up from that about Trump and the attack, or rather the Trump supporters in the attack and all the rest of it. That's how I see this. But this whole thing is crumbling with every passing day. The
evidence is pointing more and more toward fabrication. We will have to see, we will have to see what comes out of it. But I'm not going to let this one slide because I despise hate crime hoaxes, and the media lets it go time and again because they're all rooting for it and they all go along with it. So I'm gonna follow up on the story, and if I'm wrong, I will eat humble Pie here on the show too, if this really happened. But I don't think I'm beating any pie anytime soon. I'm sure you've got
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one really has a claim to any culture. It's just like saying someone has a claim to a taste, or a color scheme, or you know, you name it. It simply is idiocy to claim that there is such a thing as cultural appropriation. And yet, sure enough, we find ourselves in a circumstance where there are people who not not only think the cultural appropriation is real, but are
willing to be complete maniacs about it. Lots of stories that we could point to on this one, but I just want to start with or dive into this topic with the following Portland, Oregon. Portland, Oregon is a town that I remember spending a weekend in and I love
the food vibe there. They have these pods where you drive to what's essentially a parking lot or an area of town where there's just food truck after food truck, and they really helped popularize at a national level the whole food truck concept, where you have not just one food truck maybe outside your place of work, but a whole bunch of them, and it creates a kind of makeshift on the move food court. It's a cool idea
and when it's done well, it's really pretty fun. And it's one of those little things about Portland culture that's spread across the country. That's high five Portland. But our friend Andy no who writes for Quillette and has also done some other pieces in the Wall Street Journal, he's the one who goes up and asks Antifa, Hey, why are you Antifa? And when they answer, you have to think to yourself, Oh, these people are maniacs. That's good to know. And he writes about how insane things are
in his hometown when it comes to food. For example, a woman named Sally Krantz opened up a beast stroke called Saffron Colonial that featured historical recipes from the British Empire. The social justice left said this was racist and was glorifying colonialism, and they just piled on with all the negative reviews and said don't go to this place and threatened boycotts. Her suppliers ended up even boycotting her, and she had to change the name of the restaurant to
the British Overseas Restaurant Corporation. So there are some others here. In twenty seventeen, you had Collie Wilgus and Liz Connolly who were told that they were stealing Mexican culture because they were selling burritos from a truck. That's right, folks, if you are not Mexican, the social justice left thinks
you should not be able to sell burritos from a truck. Now, if we're going to go down this path of stupidity, I would want to know what the rules are for the sandwich named for the Earl of Sandwich a British dude, Does that mean that no one is allowed to sell sandwiches? In fact, should we all walk into any subway sandwich shop where there's not a British person or an Anglo Saxon person selling them and say, you're appropriating our culture.
Why is it only a one way thing here where it's only non white cultures get this special protection where people who are themselves white aren't allowed to quote appropriate it. You notice how it doesn't go in the other direction. This is only a one way thing somehow, at least that's the way the social justice left, because if they say it's all about oppression and oppression rhetoric and all
this other stuff, this is how they view it. Then there was again this is Andy No, he's doing great work these days going after the social justice loons, and this is all in this Wall Street journal piece. He writes. An anonymous Google spreadsheet began circulating warning about restaurants that
serve ethnic cuisine. Quote. These white owned businesses hamper the ability for people of color to run successful businesses of their own by either consuming market share with their attempt at authenticity, or by modifying foods to market to white palettes. That's right. End quote. Okay, you've got people that are spreading around that if a white person sells food that is not American food, they're boxing other people out of the food selling market. I mean, this is just the
level of stupidity, but also obvious hostility. Here is something that we shouldn't just skip over. Now it gets worse here you go. Last month, Lillian Green, an equity director at the State Education Department, entered back to Eden, a vegan bakery for a few minutes after closing time. She recorded videos accusing the bakery of refusing to serve her because she was black, using the hashtag living while Black. Miss Green, a doctoral student, took to Facebook to demand
that Back to Eden fire the clerks. The bakery apologized and issued a thirty four hundred word apology and offered Miss Green a job training the remaining employees in racial include civity. This is the real doozy from this. I mean, the whole thing is just appalling. These people lost their jobs, they were closed. How many times have any of you walked into an establishment right after closing time and yeah, maybe you're frustrated because you know they could probably sell
you that last donut or whatever. But how many times you walked in they say, sorry, we were closed, We're going home. It's happened to me over a dozen times, at least, probably a few dozen times with the course of my life, and I never thought it was anything other than these guys are paid or gals are paid by the hour. They want to go home, and I get it. You know, it's a little and I'm not
gonna lie. I've been a little annoyed sometimes and I'm like, you can't give me the thirty seconds and make an extra few bucks. But it's happened to me. I don't make some big deal of it. But Lillian Green, the equity director who went right to Facebook, almost like she's learned these tactics and this was all planned, went right to Facebook and got people fired from their jobs that I'm sure they needed to pay their bills. But this
is the part of it that's really so interesting. They said that they didn't even think that the employees were racist. They just sacrifice them this you know, look it's a vegan bakeries. You can imagine like litty people who working in your patty like yeah, man, like di ver see the inclusive niece and like I don't want like you have a cookie and list I know, like did the ingredients for the cookie? Like were they happy in life?
Like were they like a happy cookie? They wrote the bakery wrote in this thirty four hundred World apology the following, in this situation, it doesn't really matter that the two staff members working are not themselves racist, because the call they made to deny Lillian's service caused her to feel like she had been discriminated against. This is a co owner of it. Okay, he wrote, Sometimes impact outweighs intent, and when that happens, people need to be held accountable.
End quote. Okay, this is the Left showing you what they really think and how they really operate. This is the Left saying, you know what, even though we know that they weren't being racist, and we don't think that our employees were being racist, because somebody felt that they were being racist, we have to punish the people who didn't do anything wrong and think they were doing anything wrong because of the hurt feelings of the person who
felt that there was racism. This is nuts, This is crazy, And there's case after case of this, these excesses from people who are very clearly trying to capitalize on the victimology that is so pervasive on the left. You know, we're all starting to have enough of this. I know I've had enough of this I don't really want to keep having to read stories about people that are acting in bad faith, that have a huge chip on their shoulder about something, and that have that will meet out
real consequences to people. Because of this, the social justice left is insane. We have to fight against them, and we have to stamp their lunacy out of our culture. There is no such thing as cultural appropriation. It is not a concept that exists. Culture is to be shared and mixed and spread and adopted by any human being who wants to. That's the reality, and we are so far away from that right now. And this is not
a fight that we should give up. Because culture is one of those things that should be free flowing and people should be able to choose what they want and what they don't want. But it also is something that allows us all the freedom to choose, and it brings us together when we do choose food, manners of dress, stories from history, whatever it may be. Culture is a very important part of maintaining our society and the openness of our society, and therefore the openness to various cultures
is a central part of it. It is a hallmark of America that we are a place with so many different cultures that are welcomed and yes, that are taken by people who want them. I'm starting to worry that some of the largest American cities are going to start to really feel the full brunt of the left wing stupidity that has been inflicted on them. You got you gotta keep in mind, you know, it's hard to mess
up some of the cities. You've had such a huge decrease in crime nationwide, right, and there are a few cities that are outliers here, but you've had this massive drop in crime rates in places like New York and and and across the country. You know, Chicago, Baltimore some outliers, to be sure, but overall, violence crimes way down from what it was thirty thirty or so years ago, or even yeah, twenty years ago. And I just am starting to see these stories that to me look like the
Canaries and the coal mine of general been decay. I mean, it's tough to beat in terms of warning signs that a city is not being well run. It's it's tough to see something like this and not think, oh, gosh, this is only going to get worse. A typhus epidemic in Los Angeles. Okay, Typhus is an infectious disease that is now making its way through particularly the homeless population.
But it's a disease that gives you incredibly high fever, terrible pain, headaches, and it's really really rough if you catch it. Now they are able to treat this, but it's one of these diseases that, similar to the bubonic plague or the black death back in the day, it travels on the fleas that live on rats. Well, you might say, why would we have in Los Angeles a typhus outbreak, which is a disease that's really generally aotiated with extreme deprivation and poverty and trash. And you know
how I feel about trash. You know everything you need to know about a society's wealth and its level of order, and obviously it's cleanliness based upon how it deals with and what its trash situation is. Trash, sewage the very basics of civil society in a modern country these days. But they're having this outbreak of typhus and Los Angeles, it's from the fleas on the rats. The rats make
their way around the human population. Because of these ten cities you have, you and by the way, you know, you had one hundred and twenty four cases last year in La County. But that's one hundred and twenty four cases they found. You probably have a few times that in cases that they haven't found yet, or in cases that were misdiagnosed or people just you know, didn't necessarily
get it dealt with the way they should have. But the mayor is now putting millions of dollars together to clean up the streets because the rats live on the trash and the streets. People live in the streets and large numbers in these tense cities in La. Now you know, the way that La deals with its homeless this crisis is obviously not sufficient, and the way that it's cleaning up the trash on its streets is not sufficient. You know, they call an area of downtown Law the Typhus Zone.
This is the second biggest city in the country. And for those of you who are like, hey, you know, it doesn't really it doesn't affect me. You're you're starting to see diseases popping back up that had been eradicated. You're seeing diseases at the southern border coming in with people who have serious health needs have no vaccination history whatsoever,
and you know, then you're seeing measles outbreaks occurring. People are moving away from vaccination, even of diseases that have a very very high cure rate because or prevention rate because of vaccination. You know, this is this is sketchy stuff. And I can talk to you about what I think is going on in New York too, after having been there of the weekend, and just you know, it takes a while to see how liberal policy is destructive and how it is eventually always doomed to run the same
cycle of failure. But I think that we're just beginning to really see it happening in places like La San Francisco, where they have the poop patrol to pick up human feces on the streets. You know, this is where we need somebody to come in who's really about law and order and cleanliness is a part of that. The show ain't over yet, folks. It's time for roll call, roll call recarn on the rung call. It's the most exciting
roll call sound you'll ever hear. I think it's a decent possibility at least all right, maybe not, Maybe it's just the weirdest but I believe I have your attention, and it was more clever than most of the Super Bowl commercials that we were forced to sit through over the weekend. My guys, where were they clever commercials? Only Microsoft? For me, I didn't see all them, be fair. I was in my family and Miss Molly, so we weren't watching every single one of them. But the Microsoft one
really was very warm and heartfelt. I like that one. There are a couple others that were okay. Actually there was a food, a frozen food commercial. I forget what the name of the frozen food was, but it was really it was really good, and I'm a big frozen food person. By the way, people say, oh, that means you must not like No, it means that I know what good frozen food. To get all right into your thoughts.
Via the roll Call session, Joe writes, Viva la Dubstep, let's do this team, Oh Joe, I agree with you. Dubstep can be kind of fun. In fact, Maddie Duppler, who's a long time friend of mine from Media World, I have always had different names for her because we've just gotten along very well, and I'm a big fan and I used to call her Dupples and now I call her up step and she is okay with this because she agrees that dubstep has its or dubstep rather has its place. But yes, we will keep that role
call coming. We are working on new they call it imaging, which is always so weird because it's not visual, it's audio. But we are working on some new imaging for the show. We are hoping that will be out relatively soon for your listening enjoyment. Brian Right's buck hope you had a good week weekend. Was laughing at your and Crystal's end of show chitchat on Disney's Frozen Ugh with two young kids, I share crystal sentiment. Keep up the great work on
that shows. It is as it is, forcing real conversations to open liberals eyes. As I am your age, Disney classics like Beauty and the Beast, Lion King, and Aladdin will always have a special place. If you're looking for a really good new Disney movie to check out with Miss Molly, watch Coco. It's a special movie with a great message and music. Now that I've had to watch it twenty five times and I'm still not sick of it, you will love it okay, Coco sounds kind of cool.
Miss Molly will probably like that, so I will have to check it out. Although Crystal also did show me something called baby Shark tark tract stratractor shark, baby shark structure, which if you watch it, it's on YouTube. It has been watched, and I do not exaggerate over two billion times. I assume that there are kids around the globe who sit around just watching Grahampa Sarratt tract. I assume that
that is happening based on the number of views. I cannot tell you strong enough unless you have no choice, because if your kids do not watch the baby Shark movie or YouTube video, whatever it is, because you will have baby Shark stuck in your head, you will not be able to get rid of baby Shark from your head. It'll just be baby shark tract trak. I'm telling you, I wake up in the middle of the night now and I can't stop baby Shark tractor. It won't stop,
the sounds won't stop. Steve Wright's crazy uncle remembers a grade school diddy. Whether it's cold or whether it's hot, We're gonna have whether whether or not today's Hillary Bernie aoc version is whether it's cold or whether it's hot. It's global warming warmer or not. Steve, you definitely get the rhyming prize for today's edition of Roll Calls, So thank you so much for that. Michael buck Northam said he didn't use much shoe polish on his face for
Michael Jackson because it is hard to get off. Yes, the stench of racism is hard to get off Michael's. It's hard to imagine that this guy, I mean, as we go to air, he still is the governor of Virginia, don't. I don't know how democrats can think that anyone's going
to take them seriously on any of their stuff. But maybe they just figure that embracing their hypocritical stances for purely weaponized political gain, right to weaponize these standards that society you're supposed to operate under for discourse, but to do it in a clearly and overtly partisan fashion. Maybe they're just embracing it. You know, they're going to lean in, if you will, to being these little progressive authoritarians who don't live by the rules they make the rest of
us live by. I think that's what's going on. Chris rights big fan here, I will try to be quick like you. The New York abortion bill troubles me greatly. I have not heard anyone the right point out this fact. Most of my life. I listen to Democrats say how the Republicans are going to kill people with their policies, but the fact is they're the only ones that have killed anyone and all of the people. It is the ones who can't take it up for themselves. Will you
please point this out on your podcast Shields High. Yeah, I think Chris, what you're getting at is something that I have heard conservatives make as a pitch before, which is to say that the Democrats often talk about how they are doing everything that they can to help life afterbirth, when I think it's fair to say that there's no good faith effort on their part to understand why we're trying to protect life up to the moment of birth, and we do not advocate for any policies that end
innocent life after birth. So it is in fact the Democrats who are looked, though the others have said, other other major conservative figures have already said that Democrats are the party of death, and I think that that's a that's a tough one for them to argue around. Scott writes, Hey, Buck, here's a challenge for Okazio Cortez. Why don't you put it to the billionaire donors you supposedly hate and double down on your Green New Deal and legislate for banning
private jetliners. Let's see how that goes over before you propose banning my automobile in ten years, Shields forever high here up in New Hampshire. Scott. Yes, Scott, the Green New Deal is going to collapse under its own obvious and imminent hypocrisy. So we don't we know that's the case. We don't have to worry about the Green New Deal. We're from the perspective of what they promise it will
be and all that. But the issue that we have to tackle is they'll always come up with the same old justification for why it's not working, which is that it's not implemented properly. What's the problem with communism, it's not implemented properly. What's the problem with the Green New Deal? It will not be implemented properly. These people do not learn that is one of the defining characteristics of the
contemporary progressive in America. They don't look back to history and say here's what worked, here's what didn't, here's what we know, here's what we wish were So they just say, give us power, let us make all the decisions, and we will make your pain go away. We will make everything better. There's a lot of history of government action
that shows that that's a false promise. But unfortunately, there's also a very deep seated part of the mind of any human's mind that wants to believe somebody who says I will take away all of your pain, I will make everything better. Just surrender your autonomy, surrender your own decision making and your property and other things to me or to us, to the collective, to the collective good. That is the promise, the soma of progressivism, Karen writes.
Nancy Pelosi says a border wall is immoral. I thought the Dems didn't believe in legislating morality. Boom, Karen, that's right. You're not backing down here, letting it be known you will hold the Democrats to their words. Justina hey Buck a few days behind. I want to tell you my
hometown of Illinois. Mole in Illinois was negative thirty three on Thursday Morning without Windshill love your show, Shields High, well justin I'm assuming you have not turned into a human popsicle, So I'm glad that you managed to brave those exceptionally cold temperatures. It certainly sounded like a rough time in some parts of the Midwest for folks. I know that much, and I'm just glad that it's pasted.
I mean, it's a beautiful day here in DC. It's practically t shirt weather, so I'm hoping that we're we're only in early February. I'm hoping we're through the worst of it. Jonathan, right buck, I'm an iHeart listener, usually listening to yesterday's episode while you're alive with today's. I have no problem listening to your past shows. Figure to let you guys know you can share this knowledge with the masses Oss Squad, Jonathan, Thank you, Jonathan Shields Hot ps.
I remember you griping on Kate Hudson a while back. Oh. While I do agree with you on most of these points, I submit to you the movie Fools Fool's Gold. It's a rom com of sorts, pairing her up with Matthew McConaughey, Kevin Hart, and Donald Sutherland round out the cast. It's worth a watch if you haven't already watched it. Don't take it seriously and you'll be entertained. Jonathan, I don't know, man.
I am not a Kate Hudson fan. I really I feel very strongly that it's always everything I've ever seen her in is pretty much a waste of time. But I like to pretend at least that I have an open mind about things. So let's just say that I will give it some thought. Scott, kicking up some noise here, I wanted to give you some perspective of a DoD worker. I've heard you say that federal workers are ninety percent liberal. That may mostly be true. However, I've been a DoD
federal worker for twelve years. I want you to know the percentage i'd flipped a ninety percent conservative. Could you imagine liberals making weapons of war for a war fighters ha shields high Scott, Scott, You're correct when I say federal workers, I always, at least in my head, and I probably should be more specific about this. I'm talking about federal bureaucracy outside of defense. I'm talking about people outside of the military. The military I always categorize in
a different part of my brain. So that's yes, you're right that DD has a much more conservative skew than say what you'll get in the general federal government. But I can tell you that by and large, the federal government, the civilians that run all these different agencies, they are superlibs, libs and libs and more libs. Let's see who we have up next. There so many great things, Richard. It's Buck Happy Happy, hello from a Yankee man in a
southern land. Check this out. If you look at the other designs from the others in the yearbook, the Northam yearbook, it's clear each person submitted the pictures they wanted in the yearbook. So he thought this was a good idea. He is so prideful. It doesn't look like he will step down. How is it that this election, this didn't
come out during the election? Shields High You know, Richard, you know, you raise a very good point here, which is clearly the OPPO research into Northam was not nearly as thorough as the OPPO research into his opponent, and there was there were racial attacks on his opponent. I believe it was Ed Gillespie in the general election. And also there were some never trumpers who are showing us more and more, not all of them, but some of them are showing us their true colors here by openly
advocating for Democrats and Democrat causes. They just want to burn the Republican Party down and start over again, I guess, but there was there's always this disparity between the resources that you'll get when it comes to opposition against the Republican versus the resources you'll get against the Democrat because while there is a conservative media, there's not nearly the
same depth and breadth of conservative media. We just don't have as many reporters, we don't have as many newsrooms, we don't have as much money, and all that stuff matters when it comes to OPO. So Democrats have a huge built in advantage with all of that, and it allows them to omit some pretty astonishing stuff in major political contests. Team that's going to be it from DC today, back from NYCL. Though it was lovely over the weekend, have a fantastic rest of your evening or day, depending
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