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challenge and overcome adversity. Welcome to the Buck sex and Show, everybody. It was a tough night last night for those of us who were watching, and that was some some of the presidents addressed to the nation last night from the Oval Office. It was a bit of a wake up call, I think for many of us Now, let me start by saying that I have not changed my overall outlook here in the following way. I think that panic is
not helpful. I think it's not warranted. And it is my belief that as long as we do everything that we can, and everyone does everything that they have been told will mitigate this virus, we will come out of this on the other side. Okay, I mean, we're definitely going to make it through. It's just a question of what damage will be done along the way. And we are seeing for the first time in the Trump presidency what I would call wartime Trump. This is a wartime issue.
This is something that affects the lives of millions. Well, it affects all of our lives. So every single American is in some way affected by this. We all have loved ones who are in the higher risk categories. We all know people who are older and immunosuppressed, and we have to protect them. And there's a lot of government policy that comes into play here. It is distressing to see it. I'm going to try to avoid the petty partisanship.
There are political arguments that are happening right now that we have to have because there are measures that are being taken. There are policies that are being debated in real time as I'm here speaking to you that will affect how we deal with this and also will help determine whether this is a crisis that we look back on and say we did pretty well or we got sucker punched. We weren't ready for it. We were not
in a position to handle this properly. If we were talking in virus terms, you know, you all know the Defcon system, right if we're speaking about this in terms of a virus or a pandemic, and I'd say we're at We're at Defcon three. We are at an elevated state of readiness here. Decon three technically is the US arm US Armed Forces were ready to deploy in six hours, and it is an elevated state. We are an elevated state right now. It's interesting that the biggest outbreak was
in China. We know that the biggest outbreak has been in China, but the and of course, as those of you that can see me on video now, every every time any of us touch our faces, which is very hard to avoid, you just think, oh gosh, what have I done? The biggest outbreak was in China, but it's Italy that I think has really rattled people. These stories
coming out of Italy are gut wrenching. You have triage situations where this is now being reported on and lots and lots of news outlets across the country, Tria situations where they simply don't have the medical resources to handle the influx because they got to hit by a whole bunch of cases all at once. And now there are stories if the military trying to airlift people from the north of Italy and the other parts of the country. Look, there's obvious reason for concern, but there is not reason
for panic, and those are different things. We have to keep this going. You. Last night, I I'll tell you that as I was listening to the President's speech even I had a moment and I fired off a tweet. I was like, oh my god, this is a pandemic prey for us, and then I deleted it right away because I thought, what a come on, shields High. It's got to mean something. Now is when it really tests us. Right now we see who we are as a country and what kind of emotional and mental mental fortitude we
have as individuals. When called together in collective action, wars, pandemics. There are only a few things that really bring us all into the same boat, and there's no way around it. And we are in the midst of a pandemic right now.
And if the situation in Italy where there are also stories about people who are at who are not in the high risk population in terms of their age or being immunosuppressed or having a comorbidity, if that hasn't been a concerning enough for people, and that should be very concerning because you have stories at least anecdotal at this point, but people who were in their forties and fifties who are on in the ICU. Has that been verified? How many?
I don't know, But this is now circulating and there's also a lot of a lot of hysteria and there's a lot of fake news circulating around about this. People
also turning on each other. And this was I think my initial frustration or my greatest frustration he case, you know, I was faced with the liberal mentality on this a few weeks ago when I went out and I traveled on an airplane, was right when people were really starting to get worried about coronavirus, and it was clear that there were including Bill that the liberals around me, and it was everyone on that stage except for me was an avowed leftist liberal that their primary concern was to
bash not just Trump, but also really to mock and ridicule anybody who is holding out faith and hope that the administration is doing everything they can not because I think they're so great or so perfect, and I could pick apart this administration's personnel, and I will pick apart
the CDC later on this show. I used to work for the CIA, which if you're talking about a government organization that has its pick in terms of hiring and what feels like almost unlimited funding for the mission a lot of the time, and there was mediocrity, ineptitude, waste, abuse, and stupidity all over the place. Does anybody really think the CDC is like a bunch of super anti virus ninjas. Well, we already have some information that's come out that, yeah,
they're helpful, they do some good stuff. I'm not saying that we don't think. You know, I'm glad we have a CDC, but it's a reminder that if we're really gonna beat this thing, it's gonna take a lot more than no matter what kind of government agency action could have been mounted to help us in this process. But it was troubling to see. And I'm gonna try and I'm not gonna be perfect, and I'm gonna say that
right right up front. I'm gonna try to avoidoid taking taking jabs at the other side, even though they're they're on offense here. The anti Trump movement in this country, the never Trumpers, the Democrats, the left, the socialist the all the loons, you know, the people that are have been out marching in the streets for years. They can't help it. They're in a frenzy of barely subdued delight that they think this is going to finish off the
Trump presidency and deliver it to the Democrats. It's appalling, it's disgusting. It's not surprising though, But I want to push back on their lives without trying to own them, as the kids say, you know, without trying to take any any cheap shots anything, petty. I'm not going to be perfect in this because I'm only human too. And you know, I still remember my message if you ever saw it on the show on Bill Maher's show, was we all want them. You know, we all want the
presidence to succeed here. We want no debts. This is about more than politics. And I came off and I was getting liberals writing me, I hope you get coronavirus and die. That's that's where that's where the left wing mentality has been on this all along, never mind at this moment where we're particularly particularly anxious about this, understandably so.
So I'm going to try to make a promise you because we're going to be in this now for the next at least thirty probably more like sixty days, where this will be the dominant theme, the single news story that overshadows or does anyone even really you know, remember that we've we're in the midst of a presidential campaign right now, mist of a presidential election. Anybody even really thinking about that. And I'm not saying they should be focused on that. We got more We do have more
important things right now. So while I'll talk about the politics as it affects policy, and I will have to push back on some of the lies in the unfairness, I will aspire on this show. You know, I always aspired it to be. I do have to sometimes call people out and say that people are being dumb when
they're being dumb. I mean, I there are limits this right, but as a guiding principle, I will aspire to be not just fair minded about this, but also keep our disc when we're look I'm not also just gonna talk about coronavirus all day. I can't can't do that. That's
not worth your time. Every day we come on here when this continues, when we're facing this pandemic, we'll do some updates, what matters, what's going on, where are we And then we're all going to talk about other things, and you know, Prouser Mark and I might even have
a little gallows humor in here sometimes. I mean, you know, we're gonna have to do that, because if you're gonna spend your time with me, it's not just going to be the blaring headlines that you're seeing all of the news ment to panic people, drive up ratings, keep everybody off balance and worried. That's not what we do here.
It's never what we've done. So I'm really trying to recalibrate a little bit back to the core mission of making sure that I give you all the information I can on this that this is a place where I'll give you analysis. I mean, obviously, you go to any website and they've got they've got the number of confirmed cases, and I'll inform you about that, But also where are we really here? And this is where it also matters
that you know, we all feel like a community. So I'll really appreciate all of your I know that there are I mean I can think off the top of my head of a handful of world class infectious disease specialists or immunologists or microbiologists who I know listen to this show. So those of you who have thoughts, who want to share your perspective, please do right in because we're we are hunkering down here. I mean, this is going to be battening down the hatches for a while.
Producer Mark and I have been talking about how we're going to find a way to keep this show on the air no matter what, because they're still talk I mean, we're here in New York City, which has this big cluster of cases out in New Rochelle. But I mean I'm on the I was. I just got off the subway before I came on the show, and yeah, there are less people, but there are still people. Because life has to go on. We got to still keep doing
what we do. And look, if I could stay home, if there were possibilities here that would allow us to continue doing everything we do without anybody being around anybody, I'd probably do that for the next thirty days. But that's not how it is right now. But if something changes, will find a way to make sure that our show goes on the air each night as it has been. We're making contingency plans for that, because I'm gonna tell you this right now. I mean, I'm being completely serious.
If I end up having to quarantine just because of an exposure, God forbid even actually contracting this thing, as long as my lungs have air on them, I'm doing this show. I mean, as long as I have the physical capacity to do it, I will continue to do the show. So that's where we are on that. Also, last night, there wasn't just the President's speech. There was a bit of a double whammy effect. It felt like piling on. You had the news break that the NBA
has canceled its entire season. It is very very likely, as I go to air that the NHL season will also be canceled, and you had Tom Hanks and his wife Rita Wilson I believe, both in Australia and confirmed to be with to have coronavirus. So you've one of the you know, arguably the most famous and celebrated American actor, not just of his generation, but some would say in the world. I mean, he's certainly in the top ten, you know, would be Tom Hanks, Tom Cruise, you know,
maybe yeah, some people put Harrison Ford whatever. That doesn't matter. The point is guy super famous and that brings it home for people. That makes it seem more real. I think to a lot of folks, this uh, this recognition all of a sudden, that anybody can get this. It does not matter. You know, this is a human disease. It does not matter you know how rich, how you know, underprivileged, you know what country you're from, with nationality. We have to do everything we can to use the knowledge that
we have to try and defeat this thing. But the NBA season is canceled. Tom Hanks has this Saint Patrick's Day Parade in New York, Saint Patrick's Day Parade in Boston south by Southwest, that awesome has already canceled. Coachella out in California has been canceled. Major sporting events NC double A tournament's going to be played without fans in the stance I mean, just go down. I mean we're we are in we are in lockdown. That's where we are.
Let's just be honest about where we are with each other. Right, this is the situation, and you want to minimize contact with other individuals. You want to minimize certainly travel, all the things that you're hearing from from the CDC, because it's all about playing the odds and playing the numbers, righting them, doing the most you can, not just to elevate your own odds. Remember, there's this is where we
do have an interdependency here. We all we all need to make sure that we take care of ourselves because in taking care of ourselves, we are better capable to take care of others and also we are less likely to unknowingly expose there's to possible infection. So this does start with the self. Each and every one of us has some degree of responsibility. Another point that I think
we all need to remember. The number of cases you see right now is a fraction of the people that are walking around in this country today who have coronavirus. No one knows what that fraction is. But you will not find you will not find a single health expert who thinks that we know about every case or even close to every case. And if you look at a heat map, which is a map that shows density. Right, so if you look at at a heat map of the corona cases across the country. I was pouring over
one this morning. It's all over the place. You're reading about it a lot in Washington and in New York, but this is all over the country. And this is something that we will need to confront as Americans right now if we want to avoid the situation that's playing out right now in Italy. There is reason, there are reasons for optimism. Optimism not that this is gonna good.
It's not gonna go away. It's not a hoax. By the way, Trump never said it was a hoax, and this falls in the category I've got to push back on the crazy a little bit. Never said it was a hoax. They've been working on this and the testing problems. We keep hearing about rs CDC problem, the CDC in the manufacturing process, whatever that means messed up the initial testing kits. South Korea has gotten a pretty good hold on this virus. China has brought the curve down, doesn't
mean it's totally gone. Has brought the curve down. This also means that this virus will probably be something that we have to deal with for the foreseeable until a cure or a vaccine comes up, and that could be a lot longer than people think. Yeah, I said this to you, and I wasn't trying to be glib, but how's how's that common cold vaccine coming home? Now? The cold is hundreds of different viruses and that's part of why it's very hard to get a vaccine for it.
But this could be more complicated than we think it is. It's just because it's going into human trials early look as a positive sign. I'm not trying to ignore that. But you know, we need to stay we need to stay absolutely focused here on what we know, and we need to take care of each other. You're in the Freedom Hunt. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. Literally
just got an update. Literally just got an update from producer Mark right after I say yeah, the NHL has canceled their season, so and other sports conferences right, who else is suspended? The NHL are both things suspended? Okay, so it could come back theoretically. And we've got conference conferences like the Big Ten, Big twelve canceling their conference tournaments. NC Double A still is onto play without fans, but that might be in question now. So it looks like
you're gonna have a big everybody. Just get ready for waves and waves of cancelations. You know, stay home, Netflix video games, that's what that's what we want to be doing here. Read, stay away from people, social distancing. These are all good practices. They're not perfect, and they're not absolutes. If you gotta go out, you gotta go out, you gotta get food, you gotta do what you gotta do. But these are all good practices to have. Thanks for
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in rough shape right now. We got cancelations. We just talked about the NHL post suspending as producer Marcus point of suspending the season. Other leagues are suspending. I mean, if they suspend long enough, it's going to be basically canceled. I wanted to bring in Clay Travis to talk to that issue, but also his thoughts on just everything we're facing around now. Clay is the host of OutKick the Coverage, very popular podcast and also the author of the book
Republicans by Sneakers Too. Clay, thanks for joining us. Are you in Nashville right now? I am in Nashville, particulamy Man. Yeah, So tell me what's going on here. First off, with this NBA player who tested positive, I saw something that he also had made a joke earlier about having coronavirus. Then turn out he did. Well, what can you tell
us about what's going on with the NBA and coronavirus. Yeah, Rudy Gobert is a player for the Zuka Jazz and he had made a joke a couple of days ago at a press conference about the coronavirus by like rubbing his hand all over the microphones that he was being interviewed on as he walked out, and obviously, ever wine Hart is, he was not taking it seriously. He got the coronavirus. He also has given it to at least
one of his teammates. And obviously this has since spiraled into a mate your issue in the world of sports and beyond, because it's the quarantine situation that everybody has. Once one player on one team gets it, that entire team is required to quarantine, and so are to a certain extent, all of the players who played against that player.
So it is spiraled into a ongoing I think it's fair to say crisis for the world of sports, which is unlike anything I've ever seen before, where one by one, different leagues and different tournaments are making the decision basically to call off their games. What does this mean, you think, just I mean, look, there's so many angles on this one, but let's start with just the health of the of the league's pardon the expression, but you know the financial impact this is going to have an Arenas I saw
something that Mark Cuban is making an effort. He says, for at least for the for the mavericks to take care of hourly employees who are obviously going to be in really rough shape with the season of the season being shut down. What can you tell us about how they're trying to mitigate the impact economically, Well, I mean, I think that's a big challenge, right And honestly, this
is me putting my lawyer had on. I'm already kind of, you know, purely from a legal perspective, utterly fascinated to see what all these lawsuits and insurance contracts are going to look like. Because you can probably imagine this. For years and years, pro sports leagues have been taking out insurance in the event that something wild happens which necessitates games not taking place, maybe the cancelation of seasons, and trying to figure out what the economic value of that
would be. You know, you probably pay what do you think, I mean, I don't even know. I'd love to get an insurance expert on, but several million dollars to ensure that your season is going to continue to take place, but your payoff is going to be massive in the
event that it happens. And it kind of reminds me of in terms of in terms of the unlikelihood of it of what happened after nine to eleven when for for warriors out there, they will remember there was a big lawsuit over whether the two planes that hit the twin towers were one event or two events, because it impacted in a big way what sort of recovery there was going to be under the insurance contract. And I don't even remember what the resolution of that case was.
For you think about the thirty different places out there, right, the thirty different uh you know, NBA arenas, and the thirty different teams and all of the different aspects of that that they will have set up, and all the lawsuits that willon school. It's just kind of massive to think about. Now, are there any leagues that are are you that are right now planning to sort of just continue with contingency operations with no fans in the stands
going forward? I mean, who, who? How? How are adaptations working here for other for any other sports leagues or any other events happening so quickly honestly that I like, if I haven't checked my phone, I almost hesitate to say, because something might have happened in the last five minutes. Yeah, And that actually just happened to me. I said, the NHL is thinking about canceling, and then it came back
from a break and then turns out there canceling. Yeah right, So so I mean, I think that's the challenge you buck right now, is that literally it's almost impossible to keep up with how quickly this story is moving now. I've also seen you know, you're somebody who has been pretty vocal on social media, and I'll just say, you and I haven't talked about this yet. I've been taking the position that you know, this is a be vigilant, take clip acautions, but they're really People say there's no
need to panic, and that almost then incites panic. You know. It's it's like Will Ferrell and old School when he says keep your composure and he's like flinging the chair around the locker room and freaking out. I think that there's a psychological effect that it has. Some people say don't, but I really don't. You know, I think sometimes there can be a need for panic, you know, there can be a need for everybody hit the exits, and we're not there. I don't think we're anywhere close to there.
Walk me through where you know your evolution and thinking about the risks here as somebody who pays very close attention to the news has been vocal about this. You know, where where'd you start? And after what we saw last life from President Trump? And how worried are you? Man? I mean, that's really the question. I am not incredibly worried, all right. I think it's an interesting question. And let me just take a step back. I tend to be a guy like and you probably as well, because you're
a smart guy. When I was a kid, I was scared of everything, right, like a young kid, because you're aware that there is danger in the world, but you'll lack the ability to unpack probabilities and statistics of what that danger represents. So like you're willing to go into
the ocean a little bit. You know there's sharks out there, but you're not smart enough to understand what the chances are of a shark actually biting you, right, And so I was terrified of things like that as a kid, and as I got older, I used sort of my fear as a The way that I would weaponize against it is by diving into facts and data in order to try to uncover the answer there, right, and so I believe that most of us are very safe right
from this pandemic. Right now, according to the most recent data I've seen, there are ten people in serious or critical condition in the entirety of the country, and they're thirty eight deaths. I believe what scary is if we went in the direction of Italy, which is about seventy five times as bad when you adjust prefer capita as what we have in the country right now, that would change.
My hope is that we're going to move more parts what South Korea and China how we're able to do in terms of virtually eradicating the outbreak in their country, as opposed to towards Italy and Europe. And I think what Trump has done is basically say, hey, Europe is a powder keg right now. It's in danger of becoming China like, and so we need to keep people from coming from Europe to our country and reigniting more cases
going forward. And in terms of the statistics on mortality rate and all the numbers that you're seeing, there's this big debate over is it worse than the flu? Is it similar to flu? Do you have? I mean, look, I know you're not an epidemiologist or a doctrine either, am I. But from the latest data that you've seen that you been diving into, what's your take on the both the ability of this thing to spread comparatively to other diseases that we see that are like it and
the mortality rates. I mean, you mentioned Italy versus versus South Korea. How bad is it in South Korea? Okay? So South Korea is the best case scenario. And the data that we have seen from South Korea reflects that if you get the coronavirus in South Korea, it doesn't matter how old you are. But obviously this impacts people a lot older. But ninety nine point three or ninety nine point four percent of all patients are recovering, that is, they are not dying, which mean that point six or
point seven percent of people are dying from this. So that's the best case scenario, is what's going on in South Korea. And I tend to think that our medical system would be more similar to South Korea's than it would, say to Italy's or certainly other countries. That the fear that I think is out there is that the coronavirus. We're still learning the transmission rates. The World Health Organization has said that it is less contagious the coronavirus is
than the flu. Okay, others have disagreed. I think this just a reflects the fact that we're in a very early stage of understanding this disease. And so the question what you're going to be asked, and I think will be utterly fascinating as we move forward, is why did Italy have the problems that they had? Now? Maybe it's the fact that the country is older, right, Italy is
one of the oldest countries in the world. They are very social in the way that they kiss right like, they are very close in terms of personal contact contact. They have a massive purist crowd that was coming over from Asia. They may have had outbreaks that similarly broke out all at the same time. There their overall infrastructure at hospitals, maybe a severe leak decrepit compared to other countries.
I think this will be for epidemiologists an incredibly interesting study when all of this has passed, to try to figure out and learn for the future, what did South Korea do so well, did Italy do so poorly? And which direction its United States going to go? In terms of being South Korea, like where we basically end this outbreak before it has a systemic overlapping, you know, delitarious effect for the country, or are we going to spiral into a tail spin of aneptitude much like has happened
in Italy. Now, do you think that it was the right move to cancel all these sporting events and arenas and stuff. Women, If if you were if you were the professional sport czar for America, would you say, yeah, guys, we need to do this. Well, I think Rudy Gobert put it all on steroids because once you get a player who test positive, then that team's going to have to be pulled out of competition. So I don't know that the NBA has any other options once were Gobert
test positive. And I think that is why all these other leagues are acting the way they are, because they're saying, oh, we're going to have a player in the same situation and Rudy go there, Let's go ahead and keep this from happening. And I believe that is the biggest challenge
that is out there. Is basically skipped a step, because I think the step was going to go from no crowds, right from crowds to no crowds, playing in front of no crowds, and I think that might have held for a month, or might have even been able to last for a long time, but for the fact that Rudy Gobert got the flu, which jumps you right from well, playing in front of no crowds is not an option anymore. Let's wipe out the whole season for suspension right now.
I remember, it's not canceled, it's suspended. And so we'll see the whether that suspension is lifted and we returned to the rest of the season depends on how things go in the weeks and months ahead. All right, everybody, you heard it from that himself, Clay Travis. Check out his podcast I'll kick the coverage. Check out his book Republicans by Sneers too. Clay, thanks for making the time. Stay safe, Heydre wash your hands the same for you, my man. I appreciate you have me on You're in
the Freedom, hud. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. You said some breaking news. We're gonna have breaking news throughout the show. I think on this the Prime Minister of Canada, Justin Trudeau, is now self isolating over coronavirus fierce. You know, he's not been confirmed to have it, but he's self isolating because of concern that he may be and he may have been in contact. His wife has flu like symptoms, so they're testing her. That's why. Yeah, and the I mean, I'm not trying to be even
clip or funny about this at all. Literally, I just now you recognize more than ever how much you touch your face. And I'm sitting here and I'm doing a radio show and we also broadcasted on Pluto TV, and man, it's really hard to not touch your face. Trudeau is the first head of state that I know of who has been looking. We don't have his wife has coronavirus.
They're still flu out there, so there are people that have very similar symptom profiles to those with coronavirus who actually have standard influenza, which I would note is also not anything to be taken lightly. But we're just not we know more about it, you know, we know that it's um considered less a less serious disease than coronavirus at this point, so it's possible that his wife has
just the flu. But obviously everyone right now is very concerned that anything that seems like it's flu is going to be is going to be. And also, I look, I'm not trying to make some big political statement. It's coronavirus is a family of viruses that's not really it should be called wuhan virus, so we know what we're talking about. Uhan virus is what causes COVID nineteen, and no one really is going to call it COVID nineteen. So I'm not trying to make some big political statement.
I just think that we call all all these other diseases. I don't know why all of a sudden we're supposed to change. I mean, it should be called the Wuhan virus, but I'm one. This is just you got ahead of state of a country. Right next door are close our close friends, our brothers and sisters in Canada, and this is clearly going to get a lot of attention because if the wife has COVID, so I just did it.
If the wife has I guess we're gonna keep calling coronavirus till we all agree we can call something else. But if the wife has the virus, then there's a very good possibility that the Prime Minister of Canada. Now, as we all know, he is young and healthy, so chances are he would have statistically speaking, he would have a something like a cold. You know, it wouldn't be that's what eighty percent of people have. You know, they have some shortness of breath, they have a cold that
you know, it attacks their system, but they're okay. But there are other heads of state, including in this one, who are at an elevated risk profile because of their age. They've I didn't even mention this at the start of the show. There's so many things. They've shut Capitol Hill and the Pentagon from visitors, so they're still conducting business. But there have been some staffers on Capitol Hill who have come down, some Senate staffers, I believe, and there
will be more. I mean, if there's a couple of Senate staffers, there's gonna be more Senate staffers. They're all moving around the same hallways, breathing the same air, interacting in these places. So it's it's very likely that you're going to see a number spike on Capitol Hill of confirmed cases, and we're Tom Hanks has it, We're going to see more people who you would think, oh, they
don't have to worry. And I know that no one consciously thinks about this, but you know, you think about very influential, powerful celebrities, and you know politicians, it's easy to get in your head. Ah well, they're they're not. They're not somebody that has to really worry about this. I mean, I'm pretty sure the flu actually killed a Czar of Russia in the nineteenth century. And that's just off the top of my head. I mean, you know,
this stuff happens. Very famous, very powerful, very influential people can succumb to this. I mean, this is this is a human condition that we are also concerned about. This is any human being is susceptible to this. And unless you are in a hermetically sealed box and having somebody bring you food that has been sterilized all the time, I mean, no one is perfectly safe from this. And I and I worried at the kind. You know that there are some some panic points that I think are coming.
The panic points are going to revolve around if look, let's just say it, if if Trump or Biden or Bernie or Schumer or Pelosi or McConnell or any of the eld notice I'm picking those names. Those are all not just powerful politicians country. They're all older. They're all pretty much, you know, in their late sixties, into the into the seventies, all the way up to Sanders is almost eighty. And they're still shaking hands. Although I think they're gonna stop that. They're gonna have to cancel all
political rallies. They're effectively gonna have to suspend, not cancel, because we understand the importance for political I mean for a professional sports right now, the difference they're going to have to suspend the presidential election. In a sense, not all of it. People can still you know, write stories and put out their stuff online. And aren't we all, in a sense very lucky to have the Internet enabled world that we live in where we still have all
this communication and instant information. And now I know there's a bad side of it, because there's a lot of hysteria and panic that this is coming from, but I want to dig into what I think is well, let's talk about some more of what Trump said last night, and then also look at what's comings that we're all prepared for it. Thanks for listening to the Bus Sesson Show podcasts. Remember to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, the iHeartRadio app,
or wherever you get your podcasts. After consulting with our top government health professionals, I have decided to take several strong but necessary actions to protect the health and well being of all Americans. To keep new cases from entering our shores, we will be suspending all travel from Europe to the United States for the next thirty days. The new rules will go into effect Friday at midnight. These restrictions will be adjusted subject to conditions on the ground.
There will be exemptions for Americans who have undergone appropriate screenings. And these prohibitions will not only apply to the commendous amount of trade in cargo, but various other things. As we get approval. Anything coming from Europe to the United States is what we are discussing. These restrictions will also
not apply to the United Kingdom. So that was the biggest policy moment last night during their President's address, and that, I'll be honest that for me, that was kind of the old crap moment, because this is that's a real escalation, stopping flights from China. You could say, well, why is that so different. Well, one as much as China's a
billion people. We tend to think of China's one country stopping flights from all of Europe, and I believe we have significantly more air travel from Europe the US than we do from China. Just felt like it got a whole lot closer to us. Maybe that's just a perception thing, but that was a moment where it's clear the administration is now. As I said at the top, I mean Trump is this is wartime Trump. You are seeing wartime Trump right now. Decisions that are being made will affect lives.
The federal government has a role to play here the same way that federal government usually we talk about just letting letting the market do its thing, and no, we can't just let the market do its thing on this. There is a government in response the same way that it wouldn't be left to, you know, the free market. If North Korea invaded California tomorrow. This is where the government has a role as well as a massive role
for the private sector. You know, I mean tell you this, if we see a cure or more likely and I think in a sense even more a cure is going to be a vaccine, and who knows when that will actually be On the market, although I do believe they have. I believe they have vaccine now for a bola for example, which years ago people thought maybe that was a challenge you would not be able to meet so quickly. It's going to take a while a treatment though. For this.
What has to happen is have something that helps people that even just suppresses the attack on lungs. That's really where this goes. It attacks, it causes interstitial pneumonia in both lungs, is there really and once it gets in the lungs and both lungs and the inflammation and the difficulty breathing and the strain that that puts on the rest of the organs, and it's very that's where in the particularly at risk populations you have the fatalities coming.
And also where you have people who are in an ICU for two three weeks, perhaps even more under very precarious and uncomfortable and difficult circumstances. Right, I mean, the mortality rate unfortunately does not it is not the only thing to really be concerned about here. We're also going to be that are in the ICU for a month, two or three weeks maybe more. You know, that's what's going to happen. And that's no, they're not gonna be
the ICU able to get visitors. And and you know it's it's gonna be tough for for a while there. It's very and and also it's going to be a fight, right, It's it's one thing. I mean, the ICU. If you know your prognosis is, oh, it's you're gonna be fine, just give it time, which I mean, I guess then you probably considered stable. I don't know how long you'll be in the ICU, but if you're on a ventilator, I mean, that's and that's going to be a closer fought battle than any of us ever want to be
in that position. So look, this is uh, this is where we get into now the travel ban and how that might help. And look, it is going to help. And I'm a little bit stunned to see that there are people out there and we're going to some of the politics of this. Right. Look, today's today's a today's a sober day, a solemn day in a sense on the show, right there's like we're going to ease into
some other topics and some other things. But you know, right now, I mean the country, like I said, it's a wake up call, and we're at war with a virus. That's what's happening right now. I said, I think to you, even just yesterday, it's gonna be a day when I come in. I knew it was going to happen, given the trend in the last two weeks or so. I didn't know it would be here right away. I didn't know it would be here now. But that's where we are. We are, as I said, we're not at def Con one.
This is not all out. You know, we don't have marshal law. We're at virus Defcon three. You know, we're at maybe maybe def conto, but def Con three for sure. So the President talks about this travel ban, and what could be more intuitive than you know, the big concern. I have to understand that the concern that all the policymakers have right now that everyone's trying to figure out is not only stopping the spread of this, but elong getting the curve in the spike of cases. Because let's
just well, this is this is make believe maths. These are not real numbers. But just let's say in a country you have I'll just say a rant make believe
country too. Let's say the country of Bukistan has ten thousand, ten thousand beds for ICU patients and five thousand ventilators, right, which, let's just say that that's the case, and you bring in and you have one hundred cases of coronavirus, and of that hundred cases, you have ten people who need, you know, who need that critical care, You're you're in
good shape. But if you have a thousand people who are cases of coronavirus and they spread it, and then all of a sudden, you have fifteen thousand cases, you only have ten thousand beds and they all come in at the same time because the spread has been allowed to happen very rapidly, all at once because there have
not been mitigation measures. Then you get people that are in the hallway at the hospital unable to breathe, and the doctors are having to do triage as though we're in a mass casualty disaster like an earthquake that's killed thousands of people, or a mass casualty terror attack or something where they're just trying to keep as many people live as they can and making decisions about who's going
to live in who's not. So even if if you only have ten thousand beds and you end up having one hundred thousand cases, but you only have you know, let's say a few thousand a month coming through, your medical system can handle that. If you get you know, twenty thousand cases in one month and only ten thousand beds,
now you've got a huge problem. So the timing of the spread of the virus really does matter to the public health, to the health system in general, and that's why limiting flights, everything that we can do to keep the numbers low as long as we can is critical. And yet you have people out there like Obama, White House, Ebolazar Ron Lane who says this play play thirteen. Look, I think part of this, Rachel is the classic Trump
distraction tactic. He wants to see progressives debate to travel ban, so and so forth, and not come after where he has failed. We have tested five people out of every million in this country, and Korea they've tested two thousand people out of every million in their country. There is no reason why South Korea doesn't have technology we don't have, or a healthcare system we don't have, or anything we don't have. It is a failure of leadership. Of the
Trump administration. He is doing anything he can to move the conversation elsewhere, to get us to talk about something else and not focus the fact that even tonight, even in that Oval Office address, all they can say about testing is we're going to do more of it sometime some number of people. We're getting there. Right. That's that's job one. That's job number one. Travel ban is a distraction.
Is a reckless and stupid thing to say. Every I'm paying attention to what actual experts are saying, but all this different stuff, and you know, there have been conflicting numbers. You know, I saw early on people who were saying that they they were thinking the numbers. The mortality. Remember the mortality rate we're initially told was three point six
percent around there in Italy. Right now the estimating it's it's at six percent, which is very high, which is why Italy is really this is this case study that has everyone so concerned. Now it looks like global mortality is closer to one percent, but that's still ten times the flu's mortality rate, which is point one percent, right, So the numbers are changing, The data is changing, you know,
just because an expert says one thing, today. Doesn't mean they're not going to be wrong or change their opinion tomorrow. But I've seen no experts who make the case that limiting travel from I mean actual medical experts who care about keeping people alive. Ron claims a political operative, he's a hack. Okay, he's worked for you know, the Clinton's, the Obamas. I mean, this is what this is what this guy does, and he was put in charge of
the abolis bons by the administration. Ebola is much easier to contain than this virus. The Wuhan virus is airborne, is easy to contract, and is spread rapidly through casual contact. Ebola you have to get someone's blood in your system. Basically, you have to get the you know, there their actual excretions in your system. That's different. You know, there weren't clouds of blood in the air that people could walk through and get a bola from. That's not how it works.
So it's a lot easier to contain. But my point, you're just being you know, what this guy is saying is unhelpful. This is exactly the kind of cheap, petty
politics when people are really worried. Right now, you know, I'm sure every person out there who who's taking a lot of time out of their day to trash Trump and say that he's doing a bad job on this has people that there were about him and people in my life that I have elevated concern for because they're at higher risk and you know, and look, anybody's at risk in a sense, and you know you've got this kind of a disease, you don't know your system is
going to react. I'm not trying to scare people more than we're already scared. But you know, nobody wants to get this. Nobody wants to get this, especially people that are in the higher risk category. But everybody should be concerned about it. Why why pretend that the travel ban
is not something that's going to have any effect. That's helpful if the whole problem is trying or I should say, if the primary effort right now is trying to prevent their being a huge immediate spike in cases, limiting the influx of people from places where they've already had or are undergoing right now a particularly high percentage of people infected with this virus. Of course, that's a good idea, and to focus on the community spread. This is a
walk in chew gum situation. Yes, we focus on community spread and we stop the importation of the disease. It's
very straightforward when you think about it. But there look, there's a lot of nonsense from brainless Democrats out there right now who are taking this as an opportunity they think, and I have to say this, this needs to be There are people for whom you know, Russia collusion and the Ukraine impeachment and you know, all this stuff that they've been that they've been saying about Trump, and they've just been wrong. They've been wrong and wrong and wrong
and lies and wrong. Now they think that they finally have an opportunity to get their way and bring about the end of this administration. And they can't even think straight about what's happening in the country right now. Pardon me, they can't even think straight about that because they're so focused on using this to score points against the president.
It's very disheartening and we should all be on guard against this because they're also I mean, this guy is this guy's somebody who is an Obola containment czar under Obama and he's going on TV to tell millions of people that the travel ban doesn't matter, which then is going to involve those people, going to result in those people saying, well, then why are they doing Maybe we
shouldn't have a travel band. They'll put pressure on the administration, pressure on their elected officials that we shouldn't have a travel ban. And they're just saying, he's just saying this because he's looking to score points against the administration. I mean, that's really gross, that's really grotesque. It's a dumb thing to say. I've heard people who are medical experts now put forward all this issue specifically. They're like, yes, limiting flights,
limiting spread absolutely the way to go right now. So why say that it's a distraction. Why be so flippant about this? You know, you're really people are showing you who they are in this whole ordeal, especially people in authority, people in the media, people that have influence over what you think about, what's about what's happening in this country and around the world, and they are many of them are using it recklessly. And I also think they'll never
they'll never be any soul searching over this. But the same media that has been in a has been lighting their credibility on fire for years to attack the Trump administration now turns around and says, why don't you believe everything we say about this and that none of it is political. Well, because they've cried wolf, because they've they have sold their credibility, They've sold their credibility for short term audience game, for placating the the Trump Derange left.
That is what they have been doing. So of course we take that into account. But I mean that was very, very troubling. I mean, look, here's a perfect example of what I'm talking about. Um, you know, Jim Acosta is out there and you know, you know Jim, I I don't know Jim Acosta. I gotta tell you. You know, it's amazing to me that CNN thinks that this isn't just completely that he's not an example of something that destroy He just destroys their credibility. I mean, if anyone's
being honest, Jim Accosta is an activist. He's playing games all the time. But here he is. He has access to President United States, and he does have unfortunately a very large platform from which to inform the American public, and he is asked as a White House correspondent, meant to convey information to the public. After the President gives a speech from the Oval Office, he is asked to bring context and analysis to it that's helpful at a time of real national concern. And here is what he
does with that ability. Play clip ten. At one point during this address, the President referred to the coronavirus as a quote foreign virus. That that I think was interesting because as I was talking to sources earlier this evening, one of the points that the President wanted to make tonight, wanted to get across to Americans is that this virus did not start here, but that they're dealing with it now.
Why the President would go as far as to describe it as a foreign virus, that is something we'll also be asking questions about. But it should be pointed out that Stephen Miller, who is an immigration hardliner who advises the president, is one of his top domestic policy advisors and speech writers, right, was a driving force in writing the speech. And I think it's going to spack. It's going to come across to a lot of Americans as spacking of xenophobia, to use that kind of term in
this speech. Chris, Well, look, sometimes we can answer the questions and answer is he's doing it to put blame somewhere else. What a bunch of morons. And really it is a Chinese virus. It did come from China, and the Chinese government suppressed information in the beginning that could have given the whole world the head start on developing tests, vaccines, coordining off people, creating measures to help with public safety. Yeah,
that's all that's true. That's real. And the Chinese government is actively lying to its own population trying to blame America for this. That's happening right now. There is a Chinese government propaganda effort to blame America because this is going to have you know, global financial implications could last for quite a while, the implications of it. I mean, who knows. I mean, no one really knows how long this whole thing is going to continue on in any respect,
So that could happen. And now we look at this and we say to ourselves, Okay, well, should we just allow the Chinese government to rewrite history and lie. Should they be able to tell the whole world, including their own population, that America is responsible for this. This happened because someone in China was selling rare animals in what's called a wasn't being called a wet market, an open air market in Wuhan City in Hubei Province in China.
That's when or it escaped from the virology institute that happens to be ten miles away, which wouldn't be the first time that an infectious virus has escaped from that institute at all. It's one of those two things. So, yeah, it's Chinese. Why can't we speak about this honestly blaming the Chinese people for it? But we're trying to describe a thing. And why do they waste our time getting into this? I mean, it looks CNN. You'd think that now they would raise they'd raise the bar now they'd
be serious. They can't. You shouldn't trust them, you shouldn't respect them. Thanks for listening to The bus Essen Show podcasts. Remember to subscribe on Apple podcasts, the iHeartRadio app, or wherever you get your podcasts. And so we have targeted our relief. We make it. It's aimed at people, not at big corporations, not at some kind of general long term economic plan that the president might want for other purposes.
It seems the president seems to be more worried about the health of the big banks than the help of Americans. We don't believe that works. And so the administration is proposing tax cuts and veilouts for the airline industry, the oil and gas industry. That's just out of touch. The bottom line. We need to put people first. Let's talk
about the response. Now. I've told you a lot about where we are, what the threat is that we face, how we need to come together or try I've tried to minimize the politics, but as I said, there's politics is a discussion that involves policy, and policy at the national level, at the local level is part of our response right now. So I want to bring on our friend David Harsani from National Review to speak with us a little bit about this. David, thanks for making the time.
It was a pleasure. I think. All right. First, you know, the people are talking about bailouts, stimulus, FED policy, helping the airline industry, helping the cruise industry. You know, what do you make of Let's start on the on the economic side of all this. What do you make of the actions administration talked about Trump talking about last night and that now Democrats are passing bills to try and do something well, the truth as truth is, I don't know.
I mean in the sense that I don't know that we know exactly what is going to happen over the next two weeks, three weeks a month. As far as the economy, it seems to me, I'm no expert that there will be a recession because you have so much you know, inactivity economically because of this that it can't it will have an effect, obviously you see it in the markets. As a rule, I'm not for bailouts because
I don't think they work. However, this is not a normal situation where you have, you know, an industry that hasn't hasn't acted in the best interest of of you know, as has been greedy or been giving loans they knew they wouldn't get back. I mean, you have here in existential threat that's a virus. It's not like something the economy is telling you. It's just outside of that. So perhaps we need to help the economy. I don't know is the real answer yet, because I don't know that
we know how bad it's going to be. Well, let me just quickly add but the Democratic bill is like a goody list their usual stuff. So I'm not sure, just passing something to pass something's going to be helpful. So I hope the President thinks about that. Right, So it's not surprising people are trying to leverage this for politics right away. It is a little bit disheartening. Well here, well here, first, let's take this before. I'm trying so hard to avoid the partisan food fight today at least
because it feels like this should beyond it. Here's what Trump said about what he's going to do. Play three more to ensure that working Americans impacted by the virus can stay home without fear or financial hardship. I will soon be taking emergency action, which is unprecedented, to provide financial relief. This will be targeted for workers who are ill, quarantine who are caring for others due to Corona virus. I will be asking Congress to take legislative action to
extend this relief. Because of the economic policies that we have put into place over the last three years, we have the greatest economy anywhere in the world by far. Our banks and financial institutions are fully capitalized and incredibly strong. Our unemployment is at a historic clowe. This vast economic prosperity gives us flexibility, reserves and resources to handle any thread that comes our way. What do you think about all that sounds fine? I don't know that. You know,
he's not very specific about what that means. But obviously people who are quarantined and people are sick, and if there's some relief for them, I don't see why we shouldn't want that. I would say, he's you know, as far as I see, he's right about the economy in the sense that once this people feel like this is over, there's no real underlying problem with the economy that shouldn't
allow us to bounce back strongly afterwards. But then again, if it hits, you know, really badly and and lots of people are dying, God bid, then I don't I don't know what's going to happen or how people will feel. And the problem for me has been that I read one story and I'm like, oh, you know, it's not going to be that bad. We're just overreacting as usual. Then I read the next story and I'm like, oh my god, we're all going to die tomorrow. And I go back and forth all day and I'm not sure
what to think about it. And that's that's a separate problem we have. I think, well, that was what I was going to ask you next. Where do you fall on the spectrum right now? I've been I've been pretty um, I'm bullish, I guess even I've been pretty confident that you know, I knew it was going to hit this, I knew they'd be cases, and I knew there were going to be fatalities from this. But I've been thinking that it's going to be okay. I mean this, this
stuff that's really gotten me. I think a lot of people rattle isn't even so much the you know, the cancelations everything, it's these stories coming out of Italy are are pretty terrifying, right, So that's why you know, every in terms about flattening the curve and all that stuff. I'm typically not hysterical about these things. Most things don't turn out as bad as we think so, and I suspect that will be the case here as well. But
that doesn't mean so. I think there's a wide range of positions you can take between hysteria and between dismissing something, and I think Trump was a little too dismissive in the beginning. There are you know, even if it's not worst case scenario. There are a lot of elderly people in this country, and a lot of immunocompromise people, and a lot of people who are nervous about this sort of thing, and I think we need to take that seriously.
I think he's been better since then. But also hysteria's crazy. I mean, panicking and almost being gleeful about the economic ruin that might fall upon us simply for because it might help you with your politics. It's just really gross. And I just feel like there aren't a lot of grown ups out there when it comes to this sort of stuff, and that I think that's a separate problem that we have to face at some point, that we don't know who to trust because everyone has some sort
of political angle. And I think that's the problem. I mean, I played before the audio from the former Ebolazar. He's just a lawyer and a chief of staff. I work for a bunch of Democrat administrations, ron Klain, and he was saying that the travel ban is just a distraction tactic. He went on Rachel Mattau showing fund millions of people. I mean, I think that that's reckless. I actually think that crosses a line from like, I don't like what
he's saying to this. This is this is a guy who's who's telling people things, who's advocating against a position that could save lives, and is therefore actually imperiling lives and doing so. He must know. They're like, we don't want to have a whole bunch of flights coming in from Milan, Italy, right, Like he's not a total moron. Right, Well, you know, I think that that's why, you know, folks like him, It's why we can't trust what we're being told.
And you know, I mean the idea. Listen, here's the thing. Literally, nothing the president was going to do was going to be okay for a bunch of people out there. They were going to either was going to be enough, it was going to be too much, it was going to be too stupid. There is nothing he can do that it's going to make them feel where, you know, satisfy them. So I think we need to ignore those kinds of people.
I do get worried when I hear you know, a doctor or you know, I forgot his name now, but they leaked, you know, leaked his testimony or whatever. He says one hundred and fifty million people might get coronavirus. Okay, now show me your charts and tell me how you came to that, because that seems really, really bad. And I think that that's the sort of panic I really hate, because you know, you're just throwing a remark out there with any without any context. It's very difficult to find it.
Just what are you thinking now in terms of what you want to do next and what you're you know, well, what is your respellence right now? Mary? Are you? Are you social distancing? And then some I mean, where where are you putting your own your own sense of how you're going to comport yourself here? Going for I'm not sure that's the right word, but you know what I mean, how you're going to conduct yourself? There you go? I know,
I buck I have social distance. For a long time, I were in my own office, and I am not a social butterfully, I'm not out there most of the time. But obviously I live in the real world and I have kids, and I worry about that, especially one of them is immunocompromised, and I feel like, uh, you know, I keep her home right now, even though I know, listen, when you're a parent, You're not going to be rational about that stuff. I realize that I'm in the real world.
I have to be rational. But when you have your own kids, you're like, whoa, you know, so why not just keep them home and be safe and you know, wash your hands and do all the right things. That's what I try to do. I mean, you know, it's out of our control to some extent. You know, when Tom Hanks gets it, that really hits you know, You're like, even famous people who are well taken care of can get sick. So but in the end, I feel like it's probably not going to be as bad as Italy.
I just feel like in some sense, we're just better prepared and we can move fast room because of our economy, we can we can deal with these things. So, you know, and when I you know, I leave this house actually and go out into the real world. I'm actually hardened to see that normal people don't act with the kind of hysteria that we see on Twitter, etc. You know, are just going about their business, I think as best as they can. Twitter has been, you know, especially for
in blue check journalist world. I feel like it's been worse than it has ever been in the last in the last week or so, I think this is like the ugliest. I mean I told you before, you know, I went on Bill Mars Show, and my message was, we all want this to work, we all want Trump to do his best. This is really beyond politics. And I mean I actually had people writing me messages like that they hope that I, you know, I and everyone I know gets coronavirus and dies. That you mentioned that
the gleefulness. There's there's a deep psychological sickness in American politics that this actual sickness, I think is is showing us in ways. It reminds me a little bit of after After right after nine to eleven. There were people, and I've told stories about this, there were people who are like, yeah, America got what I mean Americans who are like, yeah, we got we deserved. Yeah. No, I think this is the worst. It's successful. It's been completely unhelpful.
It's you know, would rather than help to guide us. Because Twitter can be amazing, and that's just Twitter, social media where you connect people who have in ways instantaneously where they can help each other figure out what's going on in the big picture. Right, That's not what happened. You just have rumors, you have idiocy, you have you know, people who no matter what you know, what Trump says, they're going to be angry, and other people frankly old
defense Trump no matter what he's doing as well. So everything becomes politics and we can't it's very difficult, difficult to get like a good read on what you know the threat, and maybe people don't know you know what the threat is. I don't know, but yeah, I mean, I've basically tried to turn it off for the most part because it's it's not been helpful, and that's that's a shame, because it is an amazing technology when you really think about it, it should be much much, much
more helpful. Do you think that the administration has reached a point where they they are locked in in terms of how serious they should be and how focused they are on this. They seem to be headed in that direction. Initially I didn't think so, And obviously I don't know if you've read these stories, but you know, because you have such a big centralized bureaucracy with the CDC. Literally the doctor in Seattle broke the law to try to help and track this and do a pretty good job.
So I think that we after this, we need to rethink how we deal maybe in more decentralized Well, well, I you know, I have mentioned that story, and I've been saying to people, you know, this is where you know, in the early days, it was oh, you know, the CDC,
the CDC, the CDC funding and everything else. And I'm like, I told people, you know, I worked for the CIA, which you know has a lot a lot of funding and a lot of people working for it and thinks it's really pretty high speed and cool, and if people knew the mistakes that go on there, I can't even imagine. Like, look that The fact of the matter is that if you're going to be a researcher in the medical profession, CDC I'm sure is a good place to go before
you go into other places. But I think Big Pharma is more likely to actually come up with something that's really going to help this in the next six to
twelve months. Dennis CDC will oh my god. Yeah, I mean, you know, you can't foresee this stuff sometime, so I don't know how quickly they can move either, but but obviously they move far quicker than government, and uh, you know, I already saw, you know, the rumors of ad vaccines being created in Israel and other places with these pharmaceutical companies.
I don't you know, the CDC is a disaster. It started out as a agency to help fight malaria, right, and now you know it's it's a massive budget, spends most of its time telling us what, you know, what fruits we should be eating, and you know how much we should be walking and stuff that's none of its business as a massive, massive budget and hasn't really been cut at all. That's that's just the myth anyway. But I've been writing about the CDC for a long time
and there they're just a nanti state organization. They have far more important things to be worried about. But still I wouldn't want them in control of it. I think I trust farmer companies far more than I do. You know, any kind of centralized group. And also, I mean think about this. You have China or Italy, and I'm not saying they have a similar sized, similar kind of centralized socialized medicine, but they are centralized, right, and their reactions
have not been good at all. So I don't know that you know that that and we'll see these other countries how they're going to deal with it now. So I don't know if there's any sort of there's not one answer to this kind of thing, and it's it's difficult no matter how prepared you are. People don't have to realize that you don't have some solution to everything immediately. All right, Well, good luck with the social distancing, keep
yours yours close in hand and safe. And David, we always appreciate you making the time a chat with us. Thank you anytime to do too. You're in the Freedom Hunt. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. You know, they keep telling us that we need to be adults and that Trump needs to be an adult, and that you know that this is all about rising above partisan rancor and all this stuff. I mean, here's a tweet from
Hillary Clinton from this morning. I know this is all hard for you real, Donald Trump, So let me spell it out. Free testing, fee waivers, emergency say leave, quarantines, cancelations, giving a dam She really the president doesn't give a damn. The president might end up getting coronavirus. I assure you the president gives a dam But why do that? Can't can't put that on hold for just you know, a few a few weeks here, even a few days. They're all talking about how we have to come together and
face this and do what is necessary. And then they turn around immediately and they want a lecture all of us. I mean, here's another example. There's all this fighting over whether we should call it Wuhan virus, whether that's racist or not, or Chinese coronavirus. Here's how the media was referring to it as of you know, about a week and a half ago. Play clip one. The Wuhan coronavirus has now surpassed the two thousand and three Stars outbreak.
The first two s case of Chinese coronavirus was confirmed at Her Hospital. Of Her hospitals inside that building is the world's first labrum copy of the Uhan coronavirus outside mainland China. The Chinese coronavirus death toll has jumped to at least twenty six people. The death toll from the Wuhan coronavirus spike today. The Chinese virus the coronavirus that
is worrying the whole world. This comes as the Chinese coronavirus death toll has jumped to at least twenty six people and sickened at least eight hundred and thirty five people. They did they just discover xenophobia and racism in the last week. Oh, those are all different shows on major cable news networks, all calling it either Chinese or Wuhan coronavirus or whatever. So was that racist or I just I just want to know what the rules are here.
I know there are more important there are more important things. Although you could you could play that game with everything, right, So now, are we allowed to talk about the toilet paper shortage? We're just Oh, there's more important things. Are we allowed to talk about you know, what it's like to live in the world that's in the midst of this? Or do we have to just all sit around and look at the statistics and be terrified all the time. And we know life has to go on. We have
to move on together. That's why I said we're gonna do this show day and day in and day out. We're where we have things to talk about. I'm sorry we haven't done a greater range of topics today. I'd meant to get to some other things, but look, right now, truth is, this is the single biggest thing by far. Nothing else even comes close to this story in the entire world, never mind us here in America. So that's why we've been spending the time in it that we have.
You know, what do I see? I want to tell you a little bit of what I what I see coming here, just so we can get on the same page with that. I'll have some other thoughts for you on you know, there was a Supreme Court victory, well short term victory leased for the Trump administration on something that does still matter. And then producer Mark and I will kind of, you know, take a breather by having you guys tell us what you think in roll call.
Thanks for listening to The bus Esson Show podcasts. Remember to subscribe on Apple podcast, the iHeart Radio app, or wherever you get your podcasts. Perhaps here's a moment where we can talk about some other stories, some of the things that are happening in the country right now. There was a a stay granted yesterday on a federal court ruling has to do with the southern border. Now, look, everything now also has a bit of a of a whun virus tie in because everything is affected by this,
and so we're talking about borders. We need secure borders. I think there's a greater understanding now of that than there has been in a long time, or at least there should be a greater understanding of that. I'm not sure that people have. No one changes their mind these days about anything right now. You can never change your mind when new facts come in. That would be crazy. But there was a federal judge this keeps happening, federal judge who told the Trump administration, no, you can't, you
can't do that thing that you want to do. We're going I as a federal judge, I'm going to say that that's not constitutional, that's that's illegal for some reason. Usually the fallback is the Administrative Procedure Act, you know, that had just come up with some twisted you know, just try and way too hard legal ease to try and explore lane why we are where we are on
all this stuff. Right, So this is where you get. Finally, the Supreme Court they will look at this and say no, no, no, you gotta let They've they've lifted the stay that stopped the Trump administration from implementing the remain in Mexico program.
The Remaining Mexico programs pretty straightforward. It was set up so that if you come to the US Mexico border and you claim asylum, you no longer get to just get released in the interior of the United States, because this was just a huge backdoor process to come into the country and break the law and doing so showing up because the ports of entry, they tried to limit how many people were coming through through these through the
asylum process the ports of entry. So what they would do is they would just come across the border illegally, get arrested and then never show up for their court date, or if they do show up and they don't get asylum, they don't show up for their deportation hearing. They are all these levels that it moves through in which and by the way, people about this, oh my gosh, it's there are so many Democrats. Oh, they all show up at their meetings, They'll all show up at the court hearings.
I promise. No, they didn't. Of course they didn't. They were never going to We all knew that. But people lie while it was useful to them about this because there's a big ideological investment that the left has in being quasi open borders, right, that's the that's the real issue here. They don't want it doesn't matter what the
facts are, it doesn't matter what the numbers are. They are just going to always favor a policy that keeps us all with this open borders, de facto open border status where if you show up you get to just say, hey, I want to claim a sound then it release the
United States. So the Supreme Court said, no, no, no, no, no, they have to be able to continue the remain in Mexico program because what that well, what it does, I should they the administration must be allowed to do this because what it does is it takes people and says you have to wait in Mexico while your claim is adjudicated, so you don't get to have this back to our entrance in the United States. It's all it says, that's
all the policy is. And I think they're eighty thousand people already who and guess what, Oh, what a surprise, all these people that were showing up saying, oh yeah, I want asylum, not if they have to actually wait and show up in court and stay on the Mexico side of the border. Because it was all a scam, and we knew it was a scam and I told
you it was and we were right. Okay, So the Supreme Court except for Soda Mayor, who I think is clearly the least capable lawyer sitting on the Supreme Court, just based on her decisions, based on the way that she you know, the way that she asked questions, based on her judgment, and then as a judge, she's a
deeply flawed and really subpar legal mind. And she you know what she says, no, you know, oh, of course, because it's not a policy thing for her right she sees the Trump administration, it says, you can't do this. You have no control over borders, even though you're the executive branch. You that command in chief not allowed. The other the other judges said no, no, no, okay, you know,
you got to let the administration do this. This can't be the hashtag judiciary getting its way, because that's what they've been doing all along. They're trying to slow down the president, trying to prevent him from being able to do his job use the powers that he has. And then then you also get this update from Immigrations and
Customs Enforcement. They say that a current deportation rates, it would take one hundred and forty years to remove all the illegal immigrants who came in during the border surge of the last two years. A hundred and forty years, folks. That's just for the people that came in the last
two years. Never mind, you know, the process of the speed with which we are able to generally deport people who are in the country illegally and who commit additional crimes, or who for whatever reason, are higher up on the enforcement on the enforcement list. So they added nine hundred thousand cases to ICE's non detained docket. ICE is non detained docket, according to the Acting Director of Immigration's Customer Enforcement now has three point three million people in it.
The number of illegal immigrants in the country is not eleven million, folks, it's fifteen to twenty at least at least. This is also why the government, which we see has plenty of problems in a lot of ways. The government never really wants to do a full and accurate account of this because we'd find out that the government numbers have been wrong and that we've been lied to on
this for a very very long time. And now I have to say, we can't really talk about the coronavirus situation, and we can't really talk about the border, and given the coronavirus situation, not discuss how isn't it really important now that we have control of our ports of entry and that we know who's coming into the country and who's not. If you were somebody and look at some point we do. This is where we're also saying that
the United States has finite resources. We do not have the resources to pay for everyone stuff from all over the world. We do not have the resources to be the world's soup kitchen and healthcare ward. We don't have that. We can't do it right. We know this. We're already seeing other countries that their health systems have been overwhelmed
in a crisis. Now, if you were in the midst of what could be an outbreak, I don't know, in a country south of our border, pick any country, and you knew that America's border was porous, and that if you got here you'd be able to count on world class medical care given to you free of charge. You
know that might be a big incentive. But keep in mind that we all ready with the people that are here in this country are very worried about having the surge capacity and hospitals to deal with the increase in the You know, if we have a sudden massive increase in the number of infected people in this country, having that searge capacity something that we may not have, we don't really have right now, we'd have to work at it. In a very interestant that I heard in the conversation
over masks. You know, they have the N ninety five masks with the respirators that they can use for medical purposes, but also the ones that are that are industrial grain I think, or for commercial activity. You know, people use for industrial purposes where you have sometimes very noxious chemicals and things that can have gases that are you know,
a big concern for health reasons. They can change the they can change the designation, just change the regulation around this, and then you'd have millions more masks immediately that would be able to be used. This is where government, you see, government actually gets in the way sometimes. Apparently the masks for the industrial use are just as effective as that now. I mean, I don't know that that's what I saw today.
I think it was Kevin McCarthy of the Congress saying that, so there are things that need to be done here, but we also need a secure border and we also need travel bands. Isn't it so interesting that the Trump administration came in and established the right and it went all the way to the Supreme Court, established the right to be able to for a national security emergency banned different countries from entering the United States. That the left
fought this tooth and nail. There were protests, people were showing up, protesting in airports that we were told this
was an evil policy, a racist policy. And now if you're looking at what we have done right so far in this country to deal with the outbreak of Wahana virus, it has been the single most important decision probably that Trump has made of all decisions so far using that authority that if the left had had its way, the president would not have even had And just the entire focus on our border and having a more secure border is clearly something that you know, the left doesn't want.
And now we see this and understand that it is important for not just immigration is not just an issue but economics, it's not just a cultural and political issue. Immigration is also in that it is a true national security issue because and this is really with the conversation with David before started to get into that this is not an economic issue. We're not in a financial crisis. We are in a disease pandemic right. We are really under attack. We are facing an invasion by a pathogen.
And this is where federal government response has to be robust and where you see the authority that we give to the government to protect us needs to be used properly. But part of that is establishing control over our borders, who comes and who goes. There are real national security implications that immigration touches on. That's not just a talking
point that Republicans throw out there. And I do think it's noteworthy that the travel band authority of the President had to go all over the Supreme Court to assert that travel band authority was something that was challenged very much by the left and that they were against him on this. And it may be the one thing if we get out of this without having a catastrophic surge in cases, people are going to look back at the decision to limit those flights and say, Wow, that might
have saved a lot of lives. You're in the freedom hunt. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. Just over a week ago, many of the punditsks declared that this candidacy was dead. Now we're very much alive. If we're various high together, we're regenerating a democratic based It's more than a comeback to my view our campaign. So come back to the soul of the station. There's a place in our campaign for each of you. And I want to thank Bernie Sanders and a supporters for their tireless energy
and their passion. We share a common goal and together we'll defeat Donald Trump. We'll defeat them together, we'll see. Well. I was talking before about how this is Trump in wartime presidency moote, and that is definitely what's going on. But you also have to understand that this is effectively the election. I believe the election, for all intents and purposes, will be determined. What will be decided in the minds of the American people in the next sixty days. This
is it now. What's much If you told me right now that we could have zero casualties from this and there would be a Biden presidency, guess what I'd say. We got a President Biden coming in the single most important thing here, no question is that this is dealt with properly by the government. Now. Of course, if Trump administration were now, we already have casualties. I know that, but I'm saying theoretically, the most important thing. I'm just
trying to focus on what matters. The most important thing is that we have a strong government and collective and individual response to this. This is really on everybody, you know. I really hope that people that have a bad cough and they have the symptoms don't get on the subway, like, don't do these This is all very important. Don't do the things you're told not to do, you know, protect the people around you, stay home. I think it's a
fourteen day quarantine is what they're recommending for people. So, you know, there are very real reasons here for optimism, but there's also reasons to be on high alert about what the future is going to hold here. But the political implications of this are quite clear, meaning that we're going to be able to assess how this was done, how well this was done. And you know, I just wish that they Democrats and the left that are using this as a weapon to attack Trump all the time,
it would trust in the American people's judgment. If this thing is a catastrophe and the Trump administration is held to account for it. They'll be held to account in the fall as well. I mean, this is something that no one's going to forget. And I think that this is where we see how capable Trump really is. He's being tested every now he says, Oh, administrations are tested by different things. You know, administrations are tested. This is Trump's test right now. I think he is up to it.
The other side of this is that they keep telling us that Biden is up to it, and to that I just I have I have questions. I have questions. Here is Biden's spokesperson, Kate Bettingfield on why is it? Why is it that Joe Biden drifts off and sounds like he's on a Seriously, it sounds like he's in some other universe sometimes. Here's what she said, play fourteen. Is Joe Biden fit to be commander in chief? How
do you answer that? You know, I have to say, this is a disgusting smear tactic, and this kind of thing is exactly why people want Joe Biden to be president. This kind of false, you know, misleading basically conspiracy theory that you know, let's talk about hang on, how is it a smear tactic to ask you about a video where the vice president, in his own words, struggles to complete a sentence? How is that a smear tactic? And respectfully, how many times have you struggled to complete a sentence?
That's ridiculous? Of course, let's roll, let's roll the tape. Well, going after the host? Huh No, I've I've watched a lot of it at Henry actually, and I've never looked at at Henry in a moment where he knows he's being televised, where he knows. I've looked at many, many, many hosts on TV, and never have I thought, Wow, is that person? Does that person have failing mental faculties?
And I do think that you can say with Joe Biden, sometimes that's a real that is an earnest conclusion you could come to, and the health of the commander in chief is a real consideration. We know they've been talking about this with Trump all along. They've they've been going after Trump members of the press for being overweight. They say that's a problem, you know, Oh, of course, mostly so they can just mock him because they absolutely despise him.
But they say that his weight itself is a problem because it indicates that he could have other sudden health problems. He could have a heart attack, or could have any number of these different things that happen. Look, I don't think that Joe Biden is more competent than Donald Trump in a crisis. And that's really what this is going to come down to. That's going to be a key question that's asked here. I don't think there's any reason
to believe that's the case. But I also want more than anything this to pass and for us to get the other side of this, and I do think, by the way, well we're going to get there. I know today, Look, today has been a little bit of a gloomy day an American for the world, folks, And we're in a rough spot right now. There's no question about it. The economy is absolutely in free fall, not because we have a bad economy, but because people are staying home because
we're under assault by this disease. But you know, and I also think back to at the end of last year, and I'll tell you this, I sat down with my with my mom, and I remember it for the first time a really long time, I just was able to say, you know, things are really good. You know, things are really good in my life. I was happy and things were going well, and you know, the show is doing really well, and I get the hangout producer Mark every day.
You know, things were just good in life. And I remember I said it, not because I thought it was going to continue, it because I knew that I wouldn't. I knew that there would be challenges. I knew there were the things in the horizon, and not just for me. But what was the next big challenge? You know, We've had nine to eleven, We've had the financial crisis. We were due for something, and I never liked to think that way, but I knew it was. It was there,
and that's we are right now. We are in the midst of our once in a decade major challenge as a country, as a nation, as a people, and I am still very confident in our ability. I mean, if I had more money to invest in the stock market, I mean, I've already invested a lot, and I've invested and I've lost a lot of money in the last month, and I'm gonna keep it, you know, But now I shouldn't say I have lost money. I've invested. I believe it those investments will be made whole in time as
the economy recovers. But you know what, even if it doesn't, I vote in favor of America. I vote to support America. I want to keep businesses stocks up. I want to do what I can, you know, what little I can to show that I have faith in this place, because I do. We have been through worse, we have been through more. We're going to get through this one too. So today is a day we can all, you know, let it out a little bit, you know, shake it
off a little bit. For sure, there's there's a understandable unease that I'm sure many of you feel. I know that I felt in the last twenty four hours more than I have so far. But I also think we'll wake up tomorrow. I'll be a new day and we'll feel like, all right, it's not over, but we're in the fight and we're gonna win the fight. Thanks for listening to The bus Esson Show podcast. Remember to subscribe on Apple podcast, the iHeart Radio app, or wherever you
get your podcasts. The show ain't over yet, folks, keeping it real, It's time for roll call, all right, Everybody like I was saying, we're gonna get through. I want to hear from all of you, and I did. This is not just me talking, this is true. I talked
to Prison Market this yesterday. We're trying to find out although right now we got bigger concerns obviously, but we are trying to get to a place where we can take your phone calls as voicemails so that we can play them on the air and you can hear from all of you. Want to hear some of your voices. So we're working on that. You know, it's not going to be right away, because like I said, we've got some contingency planning going on here to keep their Freedom
Hunt firing no matter what. Right, but we'll get this. We'll get this going to So we have to figure out how to stay on the air in case we have to stay home. So yeah, I mean, the big concern for us is if they shut down the subway here in New York because they just realized that it's the single worst transmission node in the whole city, which I mean probably is. I spend a lot of time on that subway that we can't get to work, and so that's why we have to set up the contingency plans.
But anyway, we thought about this, we are going to make moves on it, and we got we got to kind of see what's going on from there. That's my way of saying, you know, team cheer me up, send me let's get a lot of messages. I want to hear from a lot of you this the next few weeks. Okay, especially a lot of first timers were having written in before. It's very easy. You're just on Facebook, I'm sure on Facebook sometimes Facebook dot Com, slashbuck Sexton, also on Instagram.
I'm on Instagram. You can send you can send me messages on Instagram if you want Buck Sexton on Instagram. It's an easy way to do it. And if you want to email, if you'd like to kick it a little more old school, it's very easy. Team buck at iHeartMedia, the company will work for it's a huge company. I heard Media dot com. What's up. I'd like to stress shorten your messages people. I get some really long messages and I can't put them on the air because I
can't can't have Buck reading for five minutes per message. Yeah, I mean it's Jay. Look. Also, I'll say this if we read everything that comes in, if you want it to have if you want us to be able to put it on air, it's got to be like three hundred words, four hundred words or less. I mean two paragraphs max. Two paragraphs is really One paragraph is a sweet spot. Two paragraphs is fine. Beyond that, we're not gonna be able to read it on the air because
it's too long. We've got too many messages to get too. So I would say, you know, the the optimal message is, you know, a hundred words, maybe fifty fifty or one line that's like bucket, Mark, you are awesome. You keep me safe in the warm at night. I think of it like if you're calling into the show when we took calls. Yeah, a sentence or two that's really good, your best stuff. Yeah, I think that's I think that's fair, all right, producer. Otherwise you're gonna be in the penalty
box of the producer Mark. Uh. Let's see chance, producer, Mark. Does a supposed woman who had buck watched Dirty Dancing exist or does she exist in the same way Adam Shift's whistleblower In name only and just for the purpose of the story, I will say you know who met her actually was producer Jeff on the w R show. Huh she came back. She wanted to meet the famous producer Mark, but um, producer Mark was not here because he has a wife and a life yes um, and
finishes the show earlier. So yeah, so yeah she so producer Jeff. Who Producer Jeff knows that she exists. Producer Jeff knows that there is a lady that exists to who the who the buck is dating? Um, so that's a thing. So yeah, well the right somebody has seen her. Um yeah, no, I mean I'm glad that otherwise I'd just be sitting here, like I promise she exists. She's totally real. Have a doll in your apartment that you make cookies with a you know, I'm gonna tell you this, man.
I was thinking about this. I almost like a week or two ago. I've ramped up as much as I can my reading lately. Not that I read all day for work to do the show, but my not work reading, you know, my reading just books that I want to read for fun. And I was thinking, as I could do that, or I could get a PlayStation four. I was so close, I mean to get Foot Sheep right
now too. Yeah five's coming out sooner. Yeah, I was so close to getting a PS four, which I gotta tell you, given the whole social distancing, self quarantining situation that's playing out all over the world, placed I don't know, Emazon still delivers, right, I might have to get a PlayStation if I can't go out of my apartment for a while. That's really gonna be helpful. Best thing is nowadays you don't even need to leave the house to get new games. You can just download them, right, Yeah,
I don't even bother going to the store anymore. Looks as long as as long long as the food is still on the shelves, and as long as we've got electricity and internet, you know, we can get through some pretty widespread social distancing and self containment. For it could be a storm or something. You could have no power, no, no anything. So it's actually better. Yeah, I mean that's
that's yeah, being without power. I will say that that day, I know they got the power and really quickly, but that day after Hurricane Sandy, when I was walking around and all these people didn't have power, it was it's a real shock. It's or not a shock as the case, maybe, but you know what I mean, it's it's it's really something that surprises you when you go to plug in your phone into the wall socket and you're really, oh, that's right, I'm in the dark, and this is the
way it's going to be. So and you were lucky that it was only a little bit of time. Yeah, that was that was that was short. But yeah, no, so Producer Mark is gonna have to take my word for it for now. But we will bring the mystery. We'll bring the mystery lady by at some point during the day. The promise she has a job, so she's here during the day. She wouldn't get an unemployed girlfriend. Not yet, No, nope, all right, so we'll see, well, and we may have more we may have more information.
I'm gonna dole out that information slowly. We're gonna hold back in any details about about Buck's love life. Yeah, he doesn't even know anything yet until until like the country is out of this. Yeah, that'll be like when it's springtime and we're all feeling better and we're past this scariness of this disease. That's when you know, Yeah, that's when I think I'll tell you guys the stories Bonnie and Rights. Hey, Buck, love your show, keep up
the good work. Just wanted to say something here. In a crisis, you don't change leadership, right, FDR serve sixteen years. He's the only president who served two eight year terms back and back. So hopefully this will stand for the twenty twenty election. If all this virus keeps going on, this will be a crisis. If it keeps going on. Um, look,
they're gonna they're gonna use this. Understand this that they're definitely going to um do everything that they can to make sure that this is used again and Stnald Trump so he does not get to stay as president. Yeah, that's they're gonna do everything they can to get him out of office. So yeah, yep. FDR served four terms as US president. Let's see here, Rusty, hey buck oss here, I want to tell you about my experience with cruises. Don't knock it until you try it, all right, Rusty, Well,
I'm glad that you've had good cruise experiences. I was out of it, the opposed to going out of First Cruise in twenty eighteen, but my lovely wife forced me and I've been hooked ever since I'm a bit of a germophoe but love cruising and I just practice good personal hygiene while on board ps. I'm with producer Mark Marvel movies are great, and these movies I can actually watch with my young ones shields high. So basically he's telling me I'm wrong about everything. That was a great
email all around. Yeah, I was gonna say, that's apparently your favorite email of the day, cruser. Mark is awesome and right and are good buck, You're wrong. I mean it's to each of their own. But I personally enjoy cruises and soda a lot of people. Where'd you go in your cruise? Again? I was two years ago, I was Bahamas a couple other places I don't remember. How long do you dock and spend on the land, that's
what I'm there. And how do you avoid getting left behind? Well, they tell you what time the boat's leaving, and if you don't get back like, there's actually people who get on the boat early and then go watch over the railings to watch the people sprinting down the dock so they don't miss the boat. Oh that's that. Actually people get close to missing the boat. Yeah, because they're stupid. And they don't look, they go get drunk on shore. What are the bars and they don't realize it and
didn't realize my time. I'm guessing they don't sound like a little special helicopter for you like that kind of you have to make your own way. Do you have to go meet the boat? Yeah? Right, yeah, yeah, that's what I figured. Wow, Okay, that's a thing that happened. But how many hours are usually you go into I mean, the day one we ended up skipping a stop, so we were in Nassau, Bahamas for two days, But usually
it's like eight to ten hours. You know. I actually hear the cruise ships that dock in New York from my apartment. I can hear the horns and stuff. That's where we went out of New York. Oh yeah, from
Norwegian Cruise. There are cruise ships there. Yeah. Look, you know, I feel bad for the cruise industry because I think it's I'm sure there's you know, tons of great people that work in it and and they've given a lot of people a lot of joy over the years and everything else, and I mean they're just no one's going on cruises right now, oh yeah, right now. It would never go on a cruise. No, but but also think of I mean the economic damage. Yeah, I had one
book for December. I'm hoping, hoping that still happens. Yeah, yeah, I've already got something on the books for end of this year. But it's not a cruise. But I'm hoping. Although I did look at airline tickets I was wondering. I was like, the airlines are having tickets are super expensive. Still, oh really, I've seen some deals. Well there are now depending where. But this was in for December. They're not going to give you a deal now for December. They're figuring.
You know, they're using the algorithms. You only get a deal if you're get a plan. Get on a plane right now. Sure, different deal, Wayne hey Buck. This morning some liberal works in my shop was talking about how much Trump stinks. I said, what exactly stinks about Trump or what he's done? He said, Mexico isn't paying for the wall like he promised. I said, that's it, that's all you got, Orange man bad. I laughed, then said, you know, Mexico is paying for the wall, and China
and whomever else. We have tariffs. With tariffs equals tax dollars equals military budget equals wall is being built. I never saw him turn so red shieldsaye, well, Wayne, you're very amusing and obviously good on your feet in a debate. Just don't don't make the Libs too angry because they can cry or maybe they'll even try to like scratch your eyes out or something. So just be careful, don't upset the libs too much. Wayne, All right, there are limits to the upsetting of the libs. Gina. Hi again,
Buck heard. He's saying people were complaining about your stance on some of James O'Keefe's recent undercovers. I completely agree. I am reminded of one year or so ago where he actually planted false info to get the scoop the news agency actually did their research and decline to press forward. Honestly, it degraded some of his subsequent pieces. In my mind, it took a minute to get back on board. We need people like James, but these stories he needs to
break need to be earth shattering revelations, not mediocre. Yeah, we know, tell us something new Shields high. Yeah, Gina, that's what I mean. I mean, you know, I can get any number of people who work for you know, I could maybe not me because they know I am now. But you go ask anybody at CNN if you're approached them in a social setting and get them a little drunk and be like, you know, what do you think what's going on over there? I'll be like, yeah, you know,
we're not fair to Trump, but we don't. A lot of them would probably say that, you know, if they're lower level people. I mean the anchors wouldn't because they know that they've got to be all careful, right, But lower level people would say that you want to get them fired? What do you think that's gonna do? What's the point We already know what's going on over there. There's there's not there's a revelation. So I understand people
really want to think that. Like James O'Keefe is always sticking at the lips, and sometimes he does, but sometimes he's wrong or reovershoots or remisses, just like all the rest of us. So Colin balls and strikes folks. What we do here in the hud You're in the freedom Hunt. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. James' great name. Chuck Schumer is an activist using his Senate seat to be an activist. Schumer does not care what he's what
he says. He's using the virus and calling President Trump and competent to put fear in America and the American people. Chuck Schumer is a fearmonger and attacking President Trump because he has hate towards conservatives and Trump. She'll tie from w G y Up in Albany. Well, James, thanks for writing him, And Yeah, I think Chuck Schumer is being really really gross about this whole virus situation. I do not think he's being helpful. I do not think he's
being honest. And I think that you're seeing the character of some of these leaders in a way that we should all be very mindful of. We should we should remember, we should know that this is what this is what we're dealing with. Here we go Chopper. Every time I see that, I think, get to a chopper that's a different kind of chopper, though, Buck, it won't do any good now. But Charman is sold out. Oh, because Charman is sold out. But once supply is restored, give this
Charman forever. Ago. Each role lasts roughly six weeks, and it's wonderful to virtually never run out. Wow, I'm getting TP recommendations now from the audience producer. There were a lot of them. Some suggested a day is oh man, but I can never do the forever role. I don't think I have room in the bathroom for that. Yeah, it's a big role. It's gonna be a big, huge role. Yeah, I have to give you a special holder for it. Yeah, I don't know so much. Yeah it's too much. I'm
okay with just switching. Then it would stop me and my wife arguing about who should change the will. I was gonna, you know what, I know what I do though, So I've got the toilet paper holder, and then I always keep the extra on top of the actual toilet, like you know where they and I just use the extra all the time so that if anyone comes over, a guest or anything, we always have a brand new role that I never used, that is actually in the holder that looks nice, and I just use the one
that's above the toilet. Yeah, the toilet. And also that means that means the nice, pretty one that's never touches my emergency in case I don't get you know what
I mean. Yeah, usually our toilet papers on the sink like on the counter because none of us bother to change it, like we run out of the one on the roll when one of us actually puts it on the holder, and then it does remind me of that movie The Demolition Man with Wesley Snipes and Sylvester Stallone where they talk about the three cshells and you never find out how to use them. But that's in place of toilet paper, and they think it's so funny that salone comes from an era in which they used wads
of paper for that purpose. And you know, we we lived a very advanced society. Now I feel like we probably could up our game on this a little bit. You know, do you want innovations in toilet paper? Well, I mean something better than toilet paper. I mean, wouldn't that be what a bidet is? Yeah, but you know that's that's a whole other thing. Don't you need to towel that afterwards? Like I think so? Actually, some in Japan have ones that then warm your buck. This is
what I mean. Japan has like but cleaning and but warming instead of wiping. And you know that's advanced stuff that actually creeps me out a little bit because it's public toilets they have those in and like, wouldn't I get dirty? I don't know, I don't know. We're getting We're going We're going deep on this one, Larry A Buck.
During the early part of your show, I heard AOC bleeding about the irreversible nature of climate change, climate change, and that we should be paying attention to it, whatever that's supposed to mean. I have one simple question for
AOC and her ilk. If climate change is irreversible, which of course it is, why in the world there are some people proposing that we throw unspeakable a bounts of money, while at the same time devoting unknown numbers of man hours to dealing with the worldwide disruptions that some sort of port pointless spending will cause economically and otherwise. If something is admittedly irreversible, wouldn't it make it a heck of a lot more sense to maximize our efforts toward
preparing for it. It almost makes one think that rather than a genuinely imminent crisis, what we're actually dealing with is an agenda to grad having hoard as much power as possible in an effort to have complete control of the unwashed masses. That's just crazy though, right, Shieldsayebuck and a producer Mark Producer, Mark says to you too, buddy, Larry, and yeah, the climate change stuff is nuts, and shouldn't
we be just take a moment here. I think it's fair that we take a step back and say, Wow, maybe the scientific community, instead of allowing for the constant browbeating and lectures over climate change, which is not a threat, maybe they had more important things to focus on. Maybe there were other areas. Now I'm not saying more. You can do this to anybody wrote, Oh, how could you talk about that when people are starving in some far off country. No, no, no, I mean the scientific community.
We always hear about scientists and climate change. Why have we not been hearing in recent years about pandemics and pandemic preparedness. That's the real question. That it is a real question, at least, Michael hey Buck. I grew up in a pretty tough neighborhood, so I know many two very tough individuals. They all have one thing in common. They don't know how they don't go around saying how tough they are constantly challenging people to fight's like Biden does.
Joe reminds me of the guy that's always running his mouth but can't actually back it up. I know a few of those guys too. Shields. Ye, yeah, Michael, I hear you. You know, and Biden seems to have a chip on a shoulder about all this stuff. And then Andrew writes buck Eddie Murphy's greatest two movies have to be Coming to America and or Trading Places. Are you familiar with the tie between those movies? When Hakim meets the two homeless guys in the street, he gives them
a bag in cash. Movies are so much better back then classics. Yes, I'm familiar with both those movies as well as the tie in. Everybody, please stay calm, stay safe, stay sound, hold your loved ones close, Listen to the authorities as much as you can about keeping yourself safe on this. When we'll get through, we will be together on this and we will keep our shields. Hie
