Was NYC's Subway The Covid Super-spreader?

journals too. That and more coming up. This is the Buck Sexon Show, where the mission or mission is to decode what really matters with passionable intelligence. Make no mistake a great here, a great American Again, the Buck Sexon Show begins. He's a great guy. No, We've already built sufficient testing capacity nationwide for states to begin their reopenings, and I think you'll be hearing a lot about reopenings

in the coming weeks and months. Most excitingly, in the coming weeks, I think you're going to see some very dramatic steps taken and very safely. We're putting safety first. We may be opening, but we're putting safety first. Welcome the Buck sac and share everybody. Hope you had a good weekend. Thank you so much for being here. All Right, this is where we are now as a country, the single most important issue for all of us to decide, and we all must have a voice in this one.

We all have to have an opinion. We should share our opinions, we should have our voices heard. When do we get to start living our lives again, at least in part. I'm not saying we get to go back to normal tomorrow or next month, or at this rate even next year. I'm just saying we have to start pushing for normalcy, start moving in that direction, start deciding that this is something that we're going to do, even if, yes, it is imperfect and there are risks attached to it.

I've been saying all along. People need to understand life has risk. You leave, you leave your apartment, bad things or your house Bess sor I'm in New York's always think of apartments. Bad things can happen to you. I'm reminded of the scene in the movie Heat, which I think just had its twentieth anniversary in the last couple of weeks, where al Pacino tells a would be informant a snitch. In fact, either he had killed walking your doggie. And he bangs on the table because in the classic

Pacino moment, he overacts a little bit. I like Pecito, but sometimes a little too far. But it is true. You can, in fact, it killed walking your doggie, which I'm reminded of every time I go outside walking too. Lula. Here in the midst of what we're seeing as a pandemic worse in New York than anywhere else in the country and perhaps even the world, I want to break down for you. I finally saw a paper that looks at how the subway system may very well have been

the huge negative factor here for New York. Many of us have thought that all along. I've been telling my family members that, And there's a lot to unpack there. It means a lot for you. If you live in Nebraska, what's up kfab Omaha. If you live in Austin, what's

up KLBJ Austin. If you live in San Diego or Denver, or you name it, and you hear about the New York City subway research that's been done now on the spread of this virus, you might say, Okay, that makes sense, and we don't have four million people a day getting on the subway, so or four million subway rides, I should say, So maybe we're in a very different situation than New York. So that's important. Even if you're not in the Tri state area, it's important for you to

hear that analysis. I really dug into it over the weekend.

Lines up with what I've thought all along. It all makes to those of us who know the city, it all makes sense, and it will be I think encouraging for you in other parts of the country who are saying, hold on a second, why can't we open of be encouraging for you to hear that if you don't have a mass transportation system that the city is completely reliant on you are in that that is why you are in and will continue to be in much better shape

than we are here in New York. So, as I was saying, we have a lot to dig into today, but my biggest, my biggest initial takeaway for all of you is that we are getting a reminder here that we are seeing something that many of us have known all along was going to be a reality. But we're only one month into this lockdown and we're getting constant reminders that even during a crisis or perhaps especially during one. Allowing the government to determine the extent of its own

powers is a very bad idea. This is a lesson we have seen countless times throughout history. But we always we always forget it when we're scared, don't we. We forget at the moment that it seems we need the government to keep us safe and warm, we need the

government to protect us. The government is always going to disappoint you, and I need you to remember, folks, this is not about Trump right now, meaning that this analysis that I'm giving you on the ineptitude of government, Trump is better at what he is doing at his position in government than other presidents. True, but there are still

limitations of government. I think even the President himself would admit that, although you know he has a very high opinion of his ability, still there are going to be shortcomings for the government. The paycheck protection program. I spoke to a very good friend of mine over the weekend who walked me through in detail what his company is going through right now. One hundred thousand dollars of payroll

they can't meet for the next couple of months. Do you think they're and any money from paycheck protection zero dollars, no money left in a piggybank. Harvard got to think it was nine million, and they've got a forty billion dollar endowment. And the government turns around and tell us people who are getting who are having to lay off their employees, lay off there the people that have built these companies, Oh no, sorry, there's no money left for you.

How is there no money left? And then we're talking about a five hundred billion dollars bailout fund for state and local governments. My friends, here's really where we are on this. The government has shown us exactly why we need limitations on its authority, limitations on its power, why we have a bill of rights. We've been reminded of all this and just the last four to six weeks, because you see, the tradeoff isn't give away your rights

and we'll make everything better. That's not the tradeoff that government makes. The tradeoff, especially during a crisis, is give away or we will take away your rights, and then the thing that we promise you in return will be delivered as a half measure and won't be nearly as good, or as safe or as helpful as we claim it will be. And the moment you have a problem with it, We'll tell you. Shut up, peasant, it's a crisis. Go

back inside. Go look at your empty bank account and your children, and your wife and your husband, and your aunts and uncles and whoever else you're supporting, your grandkids. Go back and look them in the eye and say sorry, can't do anything about this. The government told me no work, stay indoors. It's getting worse and worse here in New York. The situation with the virus is getting better, but the overreach and the insanity of the liberal mentality is unfortunately

growing with every day. Oh wow, you mean that we can tell people do as I say or else with any aspect of their life. Anything. You can't go outside and things unless we say you can. You can't leave your home unless we tell you can. We can put you under virtual house arrest while you're healthy and have done nothing wrong because we say so. You ever have the experience that I've had this in in DC many times. I've had it in New York too, where there will

be some motorcade for any president doesn't matter. And the sometimes, and I will say it, I have friends who are in the Secret Service. I do, but sometimes a Secret Service can be deeply imperious and jerks when it comes to things like this. I've I've had it happened to me a few times where they're unnecessarily snippy when you ask Sarah, you know, can I can I cross this? You know, I'm always very polite to anybody who's doing their job, trust me. But you know you've had that moment,

you know, can I can I cross the street? I've got to get to work or how long will it be? Or I'm gonna call my boss? You know, quiet stay here till we say so. I mean, I've had that interaction with secrets there. I remember once one of them told me to move to the left and I moved to the left and he said your other left, And I said, well, brilliant man, you said left, and that's my left if you wanted your left. You know, but this is the stuff you deal with the Secret Service.

Sometimes some of them are great. I'm not. I'm not I'm saying, but I've had a few. But it's a little bit like the Praetorian Guard telling you this is the way it is. Can't get home too bad. We need a six block perimeter for the president. You know, we need to have a battalion's worth of agents and police and everybody else around with machine guns and everything, just in case it's absurd. What I mean really is is are the North Koreans para dropping into Central Park

right now? Get out of here. It's out of control. Anyone who's living in DC knows. And you sit there and you realize, wow, so this is what really are my rights here? Can the Secret Service tell me that I can't cross the street, that I have to stand on this corner for six hours, can't go to the bathroom, can't do anything. I'm stuck here, I can't can I'm

I'm effectively under arrest because they say so. Now, some of you may have had this experience before I have, And you say, what really are the limitations of the government's authority here? And you start to realize that there's that part of you, that deeply human yearning for autonomy and freedom and respect, And you say, hold on a second,

what is really the justification for this? Oh? Because you know, the presidential the vice president or whoever it is, is less safe by what me The former CIA officer who's trying to get home through his apartment, who has no backpack, no weapon, no nothing on him whatsoever. Like, what are we really doing here? You got to ask yourself. But we're all getting a little taste of that feeling right now of stay where we tell you you didn't do

anything wrong, shut up and do what you're told. This is this is now the argument that you're getting, especially when oh the data, my friends, and I'm I'm not going to forget all the journals running around. You just want grandma to die. No, the data shows that social distancing and basic precautions, of course helpful for preventing the

spread of COVID nineteen or any respiratory disease. Locking down, staying at home, can't go to work, even with mask and gloves on, even if you're young and healthy and at low risk, school shut down. The data does not show these to be good ideas. And you know what's

going to happen. The government is going to want to just move past this as quickly as possible in some places, and other places are going to double down even more because the longer they extend the lockdown, the harder will be to look at the data as we have it right now and say, hold on a second, you guys are doing exactly the right You're doing the wrong thing here. We start to loosen, we start to open up a little bit, and we see that there's no big spike

in cases. Well, why have we been doing this for over a month? And I mean in New York, it's really six weeks. You've been on de facto lockdown. But if you ever have a question about what the government's really like, just remember right now in New Jersey there's law enforcement that are they're using drones, drones that I believe are manufactured in China. So just put that in

your pipe and smoke it. You got drones being manufactured and they're being used to spy on people in their own backyards to see if they're engaging in sufficient social distancing. If you had written this in some kind of dystopian novel about the transition to an authoritarian technocratic society or technology based society, if you had written that, people say, oh, come on, an, we're already there. They're doing it, and then they're proud of it. Producer Mark, do we even

have the Do we have that clip? I sent it to you last minute. It's all right if we don't have it. No, Yeah, whatever. There's a clip of a local newscaster in New Jersey here. I'll tell you I'm just as good at it as a newscaster. Oh, look at these drones that they're using to enforce social distancing. Guess what that should put all of us on edge. They're gonna send drones to spy on you in your backyard to make sure you're not hanging out with what

too many family members? You've got twelve people in the backyard. This is what they're really doing. We don't even know how many people in New York and New Jersey have been infected psyology testing. Here's what I can tell you about zerology testing. We don't know the real numbers yet. It's very hard, and you're trying to extrapolate out to a much broader sample, a much broader size population than

what you're dealing with in the sample. But guess what all serology testing, and I'll give you some of the numbers on all of its shows that there are vast numbers of people beyond the established cases who have been exposed to and have COVID nineteen eighty bodies. It's at least ten x, maybe more like fifty to seventy five

x the actual established cases in some places. So there are a lot of people that are being told stay home who have effectively they don't know it, yet have effectively zero risk of getting or spreading this disease, unless it turns out you can't be immune from it even if you get it. And if that's the case, my friends,

we got big problems. But I don't think that's that would be specific to this respiratory infection, and why would that be Why would that be the case, unless, of course somebody was tinkering with us somewhere in the lab. But that's a conversation for another time, and I do mean that we will have that conversation another time. We limit government authority, regardless of how benevolent they think their

intentions are. We maintain individual autonomy, We maintain our freedoms on our right to choose how we live our day to day lives, not you know, infringing on other people,

not stealing their stuff, not hurting them. But what we see here is that the government that's not sufficient do as we say, based on faulty data, based on panic because the liberal journal establishment, the Democratic Party, and yes, much of the Republican Party got dragged into a moment of political panic, and so all the rest of us were told stay home, do as we say, or else. Sorry, you don't have a paycheck, We'll get you a paycheck. Oh, we can't get you the paycheck because we're too stupid

to shovel as the government. We're too stupid to shovel your own money out of a helicopter fast enough to you after we've told you you can't work. Welcome to government, my friends. It's always been this way. We're just seeing once again why this will never change. It's a lesson that we keep forgetting, and we are learning it once again. You're in the Freedom Hunt. This is the Buck Sex

and Show Podcast. New Yorkers. You have been extraordinary at social distancing, and let me tell you, it has taken every fiber of our beings to figure out how to do this. Because we're warm, emotional people. We're used to being close to each other, we're used to being packed into subway cars, and we've had to do the exact opposite and figure out how to keep distance. It's not natural for us, it's not normal for us, but done it.

You've done an amazing job. Now, look, thank you everyone who's done it the right way, but we still know there's some people need to get the message, and that means sometimes making sure the enforcement is there to educate people and make clear we've got to have social distancing. So now it is easier than ever. When you see a crowd, when you see a line that's not distanced, when you see a supermarket that's too crowded, anything, you can report it right away so we can get help

there to fix the problem. And now it's as simple as taking a photo. The Stazi. We're famous in East Germany for having informants everywhere. In fact, this was also true in the Soviet Union. But the Stasi really applied German Prussian efficiency to the process of miking up, putting a microphone in every room in every home in society, and turning everyone into an informant. And in fact, there was a hero within the Soviet Union. I forget his name.

Now some of you will be tweeting an app or texting me I'm sure, or sending me messages in a moment about it. But who was a hero held up as a boy who ranted on his parents to the secret police in the Soviet Union. You know what a great hero that was. Now I understand that this is unlike the Stazi and the secret police and the KGB and all the rest of it, in that no one's going to get a photo taken of them social distance, lacking the proper social distance outside of a grocery store,

and be locked up for a long time. But businesses are already under tremendous pressure. People are under a lot of pressure right now, and we're gonna encourage one another to take photos and snitch. Here's the problem. You know Garcetti in La you know there's that whole Snitches get Stitches a campaign which was bad, which was about people not speaking out and telling the cops when someone commits

a crime. Well, Garcetti has a sort of snitches get riches campaign where if you snitch on somebody for not social distance or for a business being open, you get money, you get a reward, a bounty system in place. There are so many problems I have with this, my friends. And as I was saying before, it's a reminder that government always overreaches if you let it, that government always

wants more power and more authority. The people in charge think they're smarter and wiser and better than they are. That's just the nature of government. That's why our government is built on restraining power. But the things that we're being told to do, now, some of them, I'm seeing people running all over New York jogging, I mean running, jogging with faces masks on. This is crazy. You don't

need to jog with a face mask on. You're not going to infect anyone when you're jogging because you can maintain more than six feet of distance if you're jogging and they're all walking. Thanks for listening to the bus sts and show podcasts. Remember to subscribe on Apple podcasts, at the iHeart Radio app or wherever you get your podcasts. You know, this is not about Democrats Republicans. This is about a thing that hit our country, the likes of

which has never happened to us before. It shouldn't be about democrat a Republican, but we know that the left has already made it. So we know that they are already doing everything they can to make sure that Donald Trump is not president again because of this crisis that he has blamed for, this crisis that it's viewed as being his fault. It's on him Nancy Pelosi. I mean, if you're wondering, am I am I exaggerating us? And oh we'll get to Pelosi. Let them eat cake Pelosi,

or let them eat artisan ice cream. We'll get to her. And just a little bit later on in the show again on how little she seems to care about the destruction that the delay, that she is the she is the person, she is responsible for what that's doing to people. But here she is saying that this is really that the virus is. You know, you hear people say stuff like this, and then when I'll say, you know, on Twitter or somewhere, I'll be like, hey, you know, Democrats,

stop saying it's Trump's fault. Is it who says it's Trump's fault? I mean, basically the gay facto ahead of the Democratic Party Nancy Pelosi, play clip nineteen. The second bill was mask, Mask, Mask, and trying to facilitate the personal protective equipment that we don't really have as much as we need it when we needed it because the

President wouldn't do Defense Production Act. So the situation we're in is largely of his making calling it a hoax, saying would magically disappear, not calling upon the Defense Production Act to protect the workers who are trying to save lives as they risk their own lives in doing so.

Pelosi doesn't give a crap about workers. She doesn't. If she did, how could she explain what she's doing right now, holding up money to get people able to pay to pay their workers so that payroll can continue to be a source of support for millions of workers and their families and the businesses that depend on them spending money. You know, no one's really thinking about the second and

third order effects of this shutdown right now. I mean, a few people that I come across are, but for the most part, my friends, good gosh, do you realize how many businesses that exist that employ tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of people are They're not coming back for perhaps years, if ever, I'm not just talking about small businesses. What does anyone really think that the tourism industry and the Caribbean is going to be in good shape?

Think of how many islands. I know this is that we're not talking about generally American American territory here, but think of how many people in the Caribbean, or how many people on US soil that work in tourism industry places down and you know South Beach in Miami and Etta, what's going to happen to them? The hotels are empty. That means that means that there's no money to pay, you know, the maids, the servers, the staff, the chefs, the bellhops, you name it, nobody no money. But but

Pelosi thinks the problem is that is Donald Trump. He's trying to get money to them as fast as possible. Look, I think the problem is and I know that would have it would have been the pressure they created on this one. Now they finally had it. They finally had the moment where they were able to get Trump to go against his instincts. It's the truth. Trump wanted to open start. I should say Trump wanted to allow the country. Let's be very specific here so that people can't twist

what I'm saying. Oh they'll do it anyway, jerks. But Trump wanted to allow states to start moving toward greater economic normalcy on Easter Sunday, remember that's what he said, they were moving. That he should have that was the right move. That would have been the right move. But oh my gosh, you know, he would have been you know,

throwing Grahama off the rooftop. If he had done that, I mean people would have just the media and the Democrats and look, his own experts, his own public health experts, who have just have been just wrong, wrong and wrong again on this one. Gee, thanks so much. You know, this is a bit a bit like when I was in the CIA and we had to deal with the reality of you know, we missed, we missed nine to eleven, and then afterwards, I mean I wasn't there when that happens.

I can't blame me, but you know, we missed nine eleven, and then afterwards we're being asked to make all these assessments and calls about things like WMD we missed that one too. At what point? At what point do people have a right to say, I'm not sure that you guys really know what you're doing. I'm not sure you're really good at judgment or making calls. Maybe you're good at providing basic information. Great, we've gotten that from our

healthcare the healthcare policy people. Remember I'm always separating out frontline healthcare workers who are who are saving lives and against the disease for individuals who desperately needed and that's fantastic, and that's why I'm screaming and cheering out my window

every day. And then that the healthcare policy people who are the ones making determinations that affect the economy, that affect our lives, that affect the Bill of Rights and individual freedom and rights and federalism, and you know, those people at dad level not impressed. Folks not impressed. And I've seen so many conservatives that have just been like, it's not the flu. Thanks, that's really helpful. We know it's not the flu. What do we do about it?

Hiding under the bed until the vaccine, which really for a lot of people started to feel like that that was what they wanted. That's insane. We can't do that. The country's falling apart. Trump recognizes that Democrats. I look, there are there are a high level Democrats, Pelosi among them. Doesn't matter how much pain the country goes through, as long as Trump doesn't economic pain, as long as Trump doesn't win, they'll just come in and say, see what

he did you, we'll fix it all. We'll fix it all. Don't worry about it. We'll make everything better. Just put I mean, really, you know, here's the problem. With talking about Biden, They're they're forcing us into some form of rhetorical elder abuse here. You know, I've I've been around relatives who have started to have dementia and have one case, my great grandmother had really serious to mention. I remember, I remember her being really scared when I'd be a

little kid to go visit her. I remember she didn't know who I was. And I've seen all that, and that's that's heartbreaking for anybody who's been around that and

seen that with any family member. But we're also in this position where we're being told that somebody who clearly fades in and out of that kind of you know, he lacks a certain mental precision these days with Joe Biden is supposed to be the person who is leading this country at a very we'll be leading this country relatively student at a very difficult time and making decisions that impact all of our lives, and we're not allowed to talk about that right where, you know that they're

putting us in a position where you have someone who seems to be in the early stages of senility and I really mean this, he really seems that way. But you know, we don't want to we don't want to be dismissive. We're rude about anybody who's dealing with that actual problem the broader society. So it's almost like he becomes a He's going to have the same victim protection

the Democrats use for so many other people. Right, he gets to go out and talk about how great he be in the government, how the lecture all of us about Trump is horrible. And if you say, hold on a second, this guy seems like he's in the early stages of having one too many senior moments, we could call it. Then then a lot of other people are gonna the Democrats are gonna trun and say to us, how dare you look at what you're saying? Do you not respect our seniors? Said no, I just you know.

I mean, if it's amazing people will get up into their nineties and have led these incredibly full and amazing lives, that's great, and we should honor them and cherish them. I don't think we should make somebody who's ninety five president, for example, and I know Biden's not ninety five, but he's gonna be basically eighty. I don't think we should make somebody who's eighty the president. I even think Trump is bored aline on the age thing, but he's just

he's some kind of I don't know. I mean, the guy's got an inhuman level of energy and vitality and health for someone his age. I've never I've never never seen Trump once, you know, Okay, I know I feel like it's too tire, he's out of it, or he gets unbelievable. I mean I feel that way sometimes I'm

thirty Oh gosh, thirty eight almost forgot. But all right now, the Pelosi politicization effect here and what we're all going through as a result of this, my friends, The claims the Democrats are making here, they're gonna run out pretty soon of excuses that people can believe in good faith, and it will just become clear that they want to pile everything they can on the president, even though the

states are primarily going to be making these decisions. This is where you're going to hear a lot about testing, the lines about testing, you know, Nancy Pelosi at a test test testing, You're gonna keep hearing people talk about this, well,

what's an acceptable level of testing? And understand this too, that that whole system and this was coming from doctor Burkes, who's a long time public health policy person whom I've got to say, based in the briefings, I have more confidence in her than I do in Fauci at this point. But yeah, I'm sure they would say they agree on everything, but she just seems a little bit more squared away,

they mean, than Faucci. Sometimes. She said that, look, we've completely changed the Trump administration has completely changed the ability to look for look for disease through the mechanisms in the testing system that we have. And here's what she's

saying about that play fifteen. So first, I just want to remind everyone that four weeks ago we were working off of the pandemic platform that had been developed for pandemic FLUS, and we realized, and the President realized, that we had to change completely how we were doing testing. And that's why we brought in the diagnostic companies that really work on novel tests, and brought in the large

commercial labs. And I think you could see from the diagrams yesterday that almost sixty percent of the test to date have been done by these large commercial labs. But we've also put out an additional seven platforms for additional tests to make it possible for hospitals to tests and

clinics to test. So they've done a lot on this front, and I understand that there's this focus now on we can't really reopen until we have all the testing in place, to which I just say, we're talking about we don't know how far this has already spread, and we don't know how really how long the incubation period is, especially

for people who are asymptomatic entirely. I'll get into the purology test that I've already been done that show there are a lot of people that have this disease or have had this disease, have no idea, they feel fine. I'm just gonna tell you right now, if you were to ask me, if you were to say, Buck, do you think you have antibodies to this? And I'm going to get the test as soon as I can, do

you think you have antibodies to this? Would I would bet money that I do at this point, given how much time I've spent on the subway and been around people and been in places where I know there have been people who are one or two individuals removed from my immediate vicinity who had COVID nineteen. So yes, I think I probably Now I don't know. I'm just I'm taking a guess here, but my gut tells me that

I think I've probably had this. We're being told that testing is the key, but keep in mind they don't testing to what degree the numbers. The details here matters, and that's why you've got Governor Ralph. I'm not sure if I was the one in the clan robe or in the black face Northam. Remember Democrat, folks. His excuse here is, I don't know if it was me in

the clan robe or me in the black face. But you know, I get to still be governor of Virginia, a state that certainly has a history that would you'd understand there'd be a bit of elevated sensitivity about issues of race. But if you're a Democrat, you get a pass. Get a pass. He certainly got well. But here's what he says about testing plate too. The President and Vice President is saying over the past few days that the US has enough testing capacity for states to begin opening

back up. If you feel you're ready to go into Phase one. Is at the case in Virginia, do you have enough tests to do the tests you need to do. Jack, that's just delusional to be making statements like that. We have been fighting every day for PPE and we've got some supplies now coming in. We've been fighting for testing. It's a it's not a straightforward test. We don't even have enough swabs, believe it or not, and we're ramping

that up. But for the national level to say that we have what we need and to have no guidance to the state levels, it's just irresponsible because we're not there yet. Now. This guy, you know, he is an MD, which is also noteworthy, especially given what he says about what happens to a baby that survives an abortion, which we all heard him on radio, but we'll talk about that some other time. There's no such thing as enough testing for the Democrats, because this is going to be.

What they're claiming now is that it's impossible for states, because a supply chain and other issues, to handle testing on their own. So any shortfall in testing is the federal government's fault, which means that it's Trump's fault, which means that in any state that there's any continuation not even have to be a spike, a continuation of COVID nineteen infections and deaths. It's Trump's fault because of the lack of testing that states couldn't handle, and they were

begging the federal government for it. That is the political attack. That's what they're going to do, even though what's enough testing? Nobody has the answer. You're in the freedom hunt. This is the Sexton Show podcast right now. Donald Trump is not doing anything to help my city back on its feet. How am I going to pay for basic services? How am I going to pay for first responders? How am I going to have a restart of my economy if my city's going broke? And I know it's happening all

over the country. You're hearing mayors Republican and Democrat, talked to them saying, we're not going to be able to make it if we don't get help from the federal government because we've just seen a hit on our budgets, a hit on our cities, a hit on our people that was unestimable, and Donald Trump is silent. Wait a second, you mean that last week it was governors and mayors to some extent, But governors have all the power. Trump has none of the power. Now it's oh my gosh,

we're all in a sinking ship. We need the federal government to give us lots of money. Well, I've got to say, you know, maybe it would be useful for the states to actually have to live within their budgets and live with the realities of what they decided to

do in different places. I'm not saying there shouldn't be any rescue funds, there shouldn't be any help from the federal government, but it is worth taking a step back to say, well, why why wouldn't a state continue the lockdown as long as possible, keeping them keep the lockdown for ninety days, one hundred and twenty days the federal and then just turn around into the federal government. You know, money, please,

we want money. We're gonna pay all the people. Well, the problem this is, and we're gonna talk about the paycheck Protection program, which so far, my friends, I know, you know, look, I'm going to always tell you the truth. I know the Trump administrations running the paycheck protection program with Congress. Remember Congress appropriates the fund that Trump is the Trump Administration's putting it out there. So far, it's a massive it's a it's a massively insufficient it's not

a failure. It is a massively insufficient program, which is clear because they need two hundred fifty billion more dollars two hundred and fifty billion more. To Deblasio's point, you know what states in localities one now a five hundred billion dollar bailout fund. My friends, we are going to spend six trillion, eight trillion who knows, to try to get us out of this hole. We can't do this,

it doesn't work. We are putting. By doing this stuff, you're pushing closer and closer to that cliff, at which point there is a collapse of our financial system because the debt that we've accrued is completely unsustainable and people panic. So we have a virus panic that could be followed by the financial panic unless we start getting a handle and all this stuff, and we can't just have the federal government writing endless checks for everything. Thanks for listening

to The Bus Sesson Show podcasts. Remember to subscribe on Apple podcast, the iHeartRadio app, or wherever you get your podcasts. Well, what it would do is something that we've been requesting for the last two weeks, more funding for the small business program. This business program has worked very well, more than one point six million businesses requested the money to pay their employees to pay their rent. Unfortunately, Nancy Pelosi

has held that up for the last two weeks. We have watched and the one question I have watching her on Sunday Show named me one productive thing speaker Pelosi has accomplished in this pandemic. When President Trump in January thirty first put in the band from China, February twenty fourth, she asked people to gather together in San Francisco, she actually fought the band. When we wanted to put the

Cares Act together, she came in held it up. Now we had a small business program working, She's now held up the money. There's seven hundred thousand small business applications in right now trying to keep their doors open. Last week we watch five million people new numbers for unemployment. How many more millions of Pelosi's layoffs will we have to endure before She'll put people before politics even at

this moment to get this agreement. We could have been done yesterday, but the Democrats continue to hold up even though we have agreed to all the numbers. Okay, let's keep it real. Nancy Pelosi is a disaster. We know that unethical, disgraceful, a liar, you know, just just your adjective that it's all true. Nancy Pelosi is the worst. She's the worst. I don't say that that every Democrat. There's some Democrats that aren't the worst. Nancy Pelosi is

the worst, all right. Now, she has made this whole process of getting money to people who remember, this is not a free market thing. This is the government says you are not allowed to work anymore. You are not allowed to and we and the government then is stepping in to say we will essentially float your money because it's the money of we, the American people to you. You know, this is like getting an advance from your employer almost, right, Well, we'll put money in your hands

because we're the ones telling you can't work. Right, that's on them. There are millions of people who would have continued to do their jobs in states that have very small COVID nineteen problems if it weren't for the lockdown order. Right, so we've already established that Pelosi is a disaster. Pelosi cannot be trusted on any of this, even when people are really suffering enormously. You know, she's too busy talking about you know, test t test take testing. This is

a big thing, play eleven. So we're way late on it, and that is a failure. The president gets an f a failure on the testing, but fauci, if it is done profitly, it hasn't been And I think when they puts it in if it's done, is an admission that it hasn't been done. You know where the big failure was in testing the CDC, That's where the failure was. Initially they had a crap test that didn't work that

they sent out all over the place. That really hurt getting you know, early information about how fast of our spreading. But you know, Pelosi's going to blame the president. Of course she does. She always does. That's that's really herr. Her goals are just to undermine what is all that is good and decent and worthwhile in the Republic at

every opportunity, and she excels at that. Oh she also wants to tell you that she didn't give you bad advice, you the American people bad advice by saying, yeah, if're in the San Francisco area, make sure you go to that Chinese These lunar new year's celebration. A great place to hang out, right, and let's say early February, great stuff, great place to be. Why did Pelosi do that? Play ten? If the President underplayed the threat in the early days,

Speaker Pelosi, didn't you as well? Know what we're trying to do is to end the discrimination, the stigma that was going out against the Asian American community. And in fact, if you will look the recordable show that our Chinatown has been a model of containing and presenting the virus.

So I'm confidence in our folks there and thought it was necessary to offset some of the things that the President and others were saying about Asian Americans and making them a target, a target of violence across the country. And Seid, that's forgive me, don't you think. Don't you think that when you're out walking without any mass I understand this is February, not April when this happened, and

saying that there's no threat, it's perfectly safe there. Weren't you also adding to this perception that there wasn't such a threat generally, No, I was saying that you should not discriminate against, discriminate against Chinese Americans, as some in our administration. We're doing by the way they were labeling the flu and that no. Indeed, and again I think you if you check the record and as current, you will see that Chinatown has been a model in all

of this. Huh interesting, isn't it? Nancy Pelos just blather? But what he did pace you know it? Yeah? Look, Hey, credit works due Chris Wallace asking asking a real question and pushing on it. I know sometimes he annoys conservatives, but he does ask real questions. And you know, Pelosi's response here is just blather. It's because of the discrimination, okay, because you were worrying about discrimination. You basically were the mayor in Jaws ringing the dinner bell at the beach.

Remember that, you know, Oh we'll be open fourth of July. That was Nancy Pelosi. Yeah, go to Chinatown. It's great. Hang out there during lunar New Year's celebration. Don't worry about all the people that have come in from Wuhan, No concern there. Who Democrat leader third in line for the presidency. Just remember that most powerful Democrat in our elected system in the country right now, Nancy Pelosi. Oh, but they do a better job running things, Okay, Now

that I've established that, Nancy Pelosi just still work. Clear, Nancy Pelosi is making this worse for people. She is hurting workers, she is hurting the people that need the money the most. And that's beyond any doubt, any dispute. Now that we've established that, we can also talk about how this paycheck protection program not enough, not even close, and it look I understand right another sensitivity. I don't you know this. I'm a supporter of the administration. I'm

open about it. Isn't nice that I get to be honest about this. I'm a supporter of President Trump and his agenda, but I also have to be honest where when there's criticism, that's necessary. And I know that we're an extremist right now and things are tough. But the program that they designed is being abused, it's being exploited, and it's not enough money, not even close, and it's

not confidence inspiring. When by some estimates, I'm seeing five percent of businesses got money, ninety five percent of those that applied did not get money. How is it that a program that's supposed to last ten weeks, within the first two weeks has a two hundred and fifty billion dollars shortfall. Do they have absolutely no My friends, look,

these are the numbers. This is reality. Did they have no idea how many people were really going to be unemployed and also how expensive that labor would be, because this is all meant to keep people at their previous level of pay by giving different You show your payroll, and I spoke to a friend over the weekend who's going through this exact process. You show your payroll the government. The government says, here's a check for your payroll for

the next ten weeks. Company after company did not get that money, and that's not something that you can just keep delaying. They're going to let people go, and those individuals then will be at they'll be off payroll. There are investors, there are owners that could pull their money from these ventures. You know, if you're trying to do a startup, if you're trying to raise money, what happens

now you're missing payroll? Do you think investors are going to say, yeah, we know times are tough, let's throw more cash to you. While you're running running in the red here can't buy product either. Businesses that don't don't have money, they if they're giving the money to their payroll. For example, they can't buy product even if they could stay in business at some level. So what are you? What are you left with here? How the government have gotten this so wrong? I think we need to ask

the question. I think we need to understand. The numbers on this are are not good. The way that this has worked out so far is not confidence inspiring at all. I mean, you know shake Shack, which does make a great burger, but it's a big chain. Now they've got him in Vegas and New York. I think they got them all over the country. They got him in d C. I think all over the place. Shake Shack got ten

million dollars from the coronavirus stimulus funding. This is supposed to be for payroll, right, shake Shack got ten million dollars. They had to return it. You know why because two days two days after rather two days after they got that money, they had to return it. Because they raised one hundred and fifty million dollars in equity Harvard University. This one's particularly well known right now, forty billion dollar endowment.

Harvard University got nine million dollars. And now people say buck, they've employees too, Yeah, don't you think that they should probably be able to weather the storm with their forty billion with a b dollar endowmin they really need nine million dollars in emergency cash funding. No, because the whole, look, the whole higher education system has largely become these universities are hedge funds and influenced peddling schemes where people also

take classes. It's really not about making people the leaders of the future and educated them in the way that you know, we'll make for a better society, that's all. It's just all branding and money and access the elite institutions in this country. Now, that's really the whole thing is a house of cards. It's beginning to fall apart too. You know how many dumbasses I know who went to Harvard and Yale, More more than I could even say.

I could just start naming people, be like this guy dumbass didn't do any of his life, This guy jerk didn't do anything. Tons of them, Now, a lot of them had, you know, Mommy and Daddy gave money or went there. You know, legacy stuff is a big part of all this. But this this notion that you know, if you go to one of these schools, like Harvard in particular, and somehow I know people say to be oh bunk, you know, but you know this is this is a sour grapes thing. I mean, I could have

gone an ivy League business school. I didn't go because I didn't think it was worth it. So them's the facts. Actually could have gone a couple of IV League business schools. Humble bregg who cares doesn't mean anything. All in them was I figured out how to play that system one enough to be one of the people chosen to take out a quarter of a million dollars in education loans beyond college. Right, But Harvard's got a forty billion dollar endowment and they want money. The small business, I mean,

the numbers on this are staggering. The Small Business Administration gave one point six million dollar one point six million loans, rather not dollars one point six million loans through the paycheck Protection Program. There are thirty point seven million small businesses in America, according to the Small Business Association, so five point four percent received funds before the program ran out of money last week, ninety five percent ninety four

point six percent received nothing. This is what a government rescue looks like. The connected the big fish, they eat all the fish food before it gets down to the bottom of the tank. The little fish that you're trying to help, No fish food for them. That's what's happened. And Nancy Pelosi is saying, no more food for anybody right now until I get what I want. That's what she's doing. The numbers don't lie, my friends. Ruth's Chris

has eighty six million dollars. Now, look, their stakes are excellent. And then I understand the employee people, but this is emergency funding. Eighty six million dollars in the bank and they receive twenty million dollars in the PPP fund intended to help small businesses. It's a publicly traded company that has almost one hundred million dollars in the bank and they get twenty million dollars. I know people who have zero in the bank, none, and they're businesses that are

making money, but they're they're turned off. All their businesses have been crushed in the last two months. No money in the bank for payroll. You know what happens to them. Sorry, government doesn't have any checks for you, my friends. It's not acceptable, it's not okay, and it's a reminder of what I started out the show with, which is that the government is not your friend. It's not going to keep you safe and warm at night. That's what the freedom hund is for. You're in the freedom hunt. This

is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. All right. To continue our conversation about how small businesses are getting the short end of the stick right now, we have Will Ricardella with us right now. He is from the Washington Examiner, where he's an editor. He's following this very closely, and we're going back and forth all the time trying to update each other. Will. Great to have you on the

show first time. Thanks for having me on book. All right, man, So I was telling everybody that five percent of small businesses so far i've gotten cash. What are you seeing at the national level? And also then I want you to tell us about businesses that you just know personally. What are they dealing with right now? Well, at the national level, people aren't getting the PPP, they're not getting the stop gap. They ran out of money pretty quickly.

Most a lot of the money was deferred towards unemployment insurance. People are guaranteed six hundred dollars a week. Employees who are laid off, and it's the wealth creators who seem to be getting the short end of this stick. I know this. My family has businesses in New York, their restaurants. My uncle was unable to get any of the funds for the PPP. Most of his workers have left and unemployment insurance because they get into extra six hundred dollars.

They don't even want to stay in the payroll anyway. Well, that's remarkable. Explain that, like, why why would they rather? How is the incentive structure set up so that they'd rather not be on payroll? Because if you sign up for unemployment insurance, not only do you get the unemployment insurance that the state gives you from the federal bill, you get an extra six hundred dollar bonus. This is per week. So why would you stay on the payrolls?

It's now you know this is for a four month extension. So let's say you know, you try to open up. Now you're not going to get your workers back for four months. How do you even open How do you transition into a period where you can give people service. That's not to mention that people are already terrified. They're not going to go into a restaurant. What are we to tell me this? What are you the family business here? The restaurants you're talking about, Do they think they're going

to be able to reopen this year? Oh boy, I don't. I mean, that's a discussion I don't think anybody wants to have at this point. That's certainly in the back of people's minds. It's terrifying. I mean, this is a business, you know. Look, you can extrapolate this into millions Americans. My family has been in business now for fifty six years. They're worried about losing them. This is a This is a biggest employer in the town and the area. It's

outside of New York City. It serves people who come up from New York City or commute, you know, and there's not a lot of other jobs in the area. So this is shifting a lot of people from payrolls onto government unemployment insurance. And when that runs out, what are people going to do if a lot of these vaut creators are closed, where do people work? They're gonna have to stay on unemployment insurance? And what happens to the other expenses that for example, the restaurants. I mean

to drill down to this for a second. What what happens to the other expenses, rent, and so on and so forth. Right, So if you have this, you know, if you have the Cares Act and this PPP and that helps business owners stop the gap. It may not do it entirely. It's not going to do it long enough, and you're not creating any wealth. The reason you have this business is so you could pay yourself a salary too.

You know, if you're just making your utilities your rent, what's the point of keeping it open if you have to dip into your own savings? What investments can you make in the future. So, look, this is killing businesses in particular service industry. In a restaurant, who's gonna I don't know. You know, you're in New York City. I'm in Washington, d C. I'm watching people dive off sidewalks when I walk past them. Do you think they're gonna want to go sit at a counter at a bar?

I see people jogging on empty streets, jogging like going pretty fast, you know, maybe like seven eight minute miles with or eight minute miles with face masks on. Right, I'm like, well, do you guys think it's gonna happen here if everyone else is walking, you know, you're like, you're like the speedboat. You can go around the cruise ships. You're exactly right. So look, before they even had the institute of government lockdowns, people were already moving away from

going to restaurants. We had a lot less reservations. There's a lot less people coming in. It's going to be a huge transition to get this to happen again. You're gonna have to open up in phases or all at once now in order for people in order for this to be over, perhaps by fall or winter. You'll have to open now before people feel confident to go out again.

There's been so much misinformation spread about this, and the government's kind of one size fits all approach helps the rich people, the people who have money who work from home, work remotely, but it doesn't help working class Americans who can't afford to socially distance for two years, who can't afford to wear masks and stay away from everybody for a year. It just doesn't work for them. So that's why you have people protesting. They can't accept those costs.

Where you have the hoyty toyty folks in Manhattan and Washington, DC. They can where a mask and run off the sidewalk all day. But a majority of Americans can't do that. They can't afford to. And how worried are you? Just at that the macro level, we got about thirty forty seconds left, but they're talking about now a five hundred I think it's five hundred billion dollars bailout fund for

states and cities. I'm getting the sense that people really believe that the government can just write blank checks for everything. And it's fine. Well, yeah, so I have an economics background, right, you're writing out all this money, you're giving unemployment insurance to people that aren't working, and you don't have wealth creators creating wealth. I mean, so what happens. You'll have

massive inflation. People are spending money, it's not backed up by any discernible production, and you'll get somewhat of inflation even on consumption spending. And look, you have some people who are laid off or cutting into their savings. You're gonna will well, hold on, I want to actually let's continue as the other side of the break for a minute. Stay with me. We'll come back and get back into this. Thanks for listening to The Bus Sesson Show podcasts. Remember

to subscribe on Apple Podcasts. The iHeart range your past Ricardella, who is at the Washington Examiner. He's an editor there. He's also a buddy of mine, and his family owns businesses here in the New York area, and they're in really tough shape right now, as any restaurant business would be, given that they're shut down because of government mandates. So well,

you're talking about the inflationary pressure. I mean, I just feel like, you know, we undershot with PPP, undershot within the first couple of weeks by at least two hundred and fifty billion, and I think they're just asking for that with the idea that in another three or four weeks they're gonna say we in another two hundred and fifty billion. We're on track here to spend at least four feels like it's going to be six, maybe seven or eight trillion dollars really quickly, right, I mean in

a matter of a few months. Yeah, I think I think that's optimistic. I think it's more like ten trillion. Look, how you look, the government shut down these businesses, so therefore they owe them some responsibility to stop the gap. And you know a lot of these businesses are going to take it pay off their bills, but it doesn't leave much for them. A lot of their employees are going on to unemployment insurance because it's more money they're

these people are dipping into their savings as well. They're not gonna have any money to invest when things open up. They're not gonna my families outside of New York City. They depend on people who come up from New York City. That's not going to happen for a long time. So there's going to be less savings, less investment. We're not going to hire everybody back. You can't raise your prices

because there's not as much money out there. And let's hope that inflations stays low, that you know, you don't have these menu costs and so on where they have to change their prices constantly. I don't look, there's so much uncertainty that businesses aren't going to invest like they used to. I don't see the economy coming back for a very long time. Twenty twenty one is optimistic. What

do you think should be done here? I mean the administration, I was telling everybody, Look, Pelosi is just a she's just what she's doing is monstrous here by by stopping people from getting money that they need right now. And it's all politics with her, and she's she's a disgusting

plutocrat and people should know that. But the administration, you know, they're they're not really able to do what they've said they're able to do, which is a key people more or less with money in their pockets who were employed going for word, even though they've opened the money gun in a way like we've never seen it before. So what do you think they should be doing? Well? I think what happened first the problem was uncertainty. Right in New York. It was you know, we're going to stem

the tide for thirty days. We'll open back up in April fifteenth. Uncertainty hurt business. Now I think it's the certainty. At first you had a government saying, oh, we're gonna flatten the curve, and then once that's over, you know what I mean, we can reopen businesses. Now it's we're

gonna flatten the curve. The curve is flattened. Now we're gonna have to do this until there's a vaccine or indefinitely, or you're gonna have to wear a mask for two years, or they're not giving any option for people that're like, you know, there's a lot of epidemiologists saying, look, they're only options hurt immunity. They're not saying, hey, let's let kids who have zero risk of this disease go back to school. Let's try, you know, let's try to go

back to regular life. Here, they're saying to businesses in general, especially service industry, you can't have more than ten people in your business, and you know you're gonna have to stay six feet apart, and you're gonna have to wear masks and so on. There's no way. Restaurants, well, I was about to say, I mean, when people say this, they obviously don't know any but the restaurant business, because it's all it's all about turning tables relatively quickly, right,

and the more tables the better. How many people you can fit in your restaurant is paramount. For restaurants. Every time you put somebody, every you put a button a seat, that's money. If you're taking butts out of seats, you're taking money away from restaurants. They just can't stay open. The bigger the restaurant, the less chance they have of staying open. So you know, these are things I don't think people thought about it at first. It's much easier to flip the switch off than it is to turn

it back on. And I don't think any of that what was given. I don't think they had any appropriate data to begin with to justify this. And I think you're gonna see it's gonna be I hope I'm wrong, Buck, I really do, but I don't think it's going to be very good moving forward here the next six months to a year at least at least, Yeah, it just feels like the spending it either has negative ramifications for the government to go deeper in debt than it has ever been in a way that no one could have

ever even anticipated. Right, this is not even with a war. You figure, well, at some point this thing will end, and you know, there's a little bit of it. And also there's a lot of production that goes into a war,

so you may go into depth. There's all so tremendous amount of production and that's going on, and within your society, we're going into debt with shutdown production, right, and but people don't understand from an economic standpoint, as we have a four trillion dollar budget deficit this year, that's taxes. People understand, you know. I think I've saw Alexandria custumer tests say, oh, the money you get from the PPP and the and you know, the stimulus checks, the twelve

hundred dollars, you don't have to pay back. Well, that's not true. It's debt. You have to pay that back in taxes. And that's how businesses and people see it. Our taxes are going to have to go up, right, you know, So that is money that has to be paid back. I think people understand that, and that's going to hurt long term investing. People aren't going to want to invest when they're unsure about how high tax rates

will go. Government spending is with astronomical before any of this happened, and it leaves a lot of uncertainty in the economy and it's going to be very hard to come back. And I don't think anybody's talking about it. I don't think politicians want to talk about it because they want to justify the severe draconian lockdowns that they instituted, and they don't want any blowback for it. I agree Rocardell.

Everybody follow him on Twitter. His last name is very hard to spell, so I will say it's not an easy thing. But if you kind of think about it and you do it phonetically and then you think like Italian, you'll figure it out, right. Yeah, And you know, just google that you can find the restaurants. Google Rocodella, You'll find them easily. There we go, will Thanks so much for your insights, my friend. We'll have you back soon and you take care. Thank you, Buck, But you're in

the freedom. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. These folks are, Let's be honest about what they are. They are the Fox News Nazi Confederate death cult rump of the Republican Party, and their very existence is a slap in the face not only to the healthcare workers on the front lines risking their lives every single day, but it's also a slap into the face of the people who are actually dying from this virus and disproportionate numbers

black and brown people. These aren't economically disenfranchised folks. These are small disowners. These are retirees. These are people who want their workers to be sent back to work, not themselves. It's a complete nutter farce. It's an astroidturf farce. And also, I think it needs to be said, it's also unrepresentative of the Republican Party as a whole. I just saw a poll that said seventy percent of Republicans want a national stay at home order. This person's appalling, utterly appalling.

But is he writes for The Nation, which is perhaps the most disgusting comy rag in any circulation in the United United States. So he's a sports writer for it. But so he's a sports writer for a commie paper. Good job. Everything that he says there is a is a vicious and stupid slander. And remember he's talking about people who are trying to have their voices raised peacefully about government policies that increasingly the data does not support

the lockdown order. If you really look what's going on in Germany, if you really look what has happened Sweden, for example, is saying that the model that they've done, that they were all we were told Sweden's heading for catastrophe. False. Sweden is not in a catastrophe. It's doing better than most of the other major European countries. That have been hit hard by COVID nineteen not doing as well as Finland. But Finland is like Lichtenstein, It's barely a country. It's

got like two million people that live there. If that okay, fine, I gotta find out. It's just saying, because I know someone's gonna yell at me, what's the population of Finland? Five million? Sorry, okay, it's got five million people. But the truth is that Sweden, we were told was going to run for it was going to have disaster because they were just doing more common sense, be careful, no huge gatherings. But businesses can still operate washer hints the

things that I've wanted us to do all along. Act like we're in a really really bad flu season, take those kinds of precautions, and not act like everybody's about to die from bubonic plague. If they leave their house, everyone has to be on lockdown. So the people that are upset about this, I mean he's now slandering them,

saying that they want their workers to go. No. I know people who are small business owners here in New York and employees who want to go back to their jobs, who want to be able to function again, and earn a living again, and for the attitude from these some of these media elites to be and they're not elite as and they're good, but you know they think of

themselves as better than other people. I just want to know what Dave's zeron would say to the four thousand cars that showed up and waited in line four hours in Houston, Texas over the weekend for food bank assistance because they don't have any food and don't have any money. Four thousand cars, probably some of them have at least a few people in them, right, Probably folks might have

shown up with their family members. What are those or even if they're the families at home, how many individuals you think those four thousand cars are representing? And that's just one day in Houston, Texas? Right, You've got at least an average, let's say, three or four people that need food. What are we to make of all of this?

I mean, when you're telling people that they have to wait in line for food because their business has been shut down by order the state, and then you have smug libs telling them shut up, peasant, go home, watch Netflix. Accept it. You can't risk other people by having any individual freedom you're not allowed to leave your home and you're not allowed to operate your business. I mean the whole thing about it. These are people that want their

workers to go. This guy doesn't it doesn't know anything. I mean, people are right for the nation are a joke and they're atrocious. So that's they're not they're not intellectually worthwhile, they're not nice people, they're not decent people, and the Nation is a trash heap. It's like Media Matters trash heap. If you work for Media Matters, you're part of a trash organization. You're probably a trash human being. If you work for the Nation, ninety percent chance you're

trash human being. But me and meaning you know, you're you're smarmie, you don't care about people. You're not nice, you're not decent, You're a sanctimonious, smug, worthless lib. It just like a look down And everybody with all of the condescension because you went to some second or third tier liberal arts college in the Northeast, woo fantastic. We're all supposed to be so impressed. It's gross. That's gross.

You know what else is going on the narrative while we're being told that if you have a problem with this, Remember that guy was talking about the protesters. How dare they protest? People don't have food, they don't have jobs, they don't have a future right now, And the government's acting like a bunch of morons in a lot of places, telling us beaches can't be open. Why can't beaches be open?

Can't operate a store? You know the chances if somebody comes into your store for five minutes, And first of all, anyone who thinks they're sick should stay home. I mean, we have to. We have to operate in society assuming that not everyone's acting like a moron. Right. If you have a shallow cough and you think you might have COVID nineteen, quarantine yourself straight up for two weeks. Get the test obviously as soon as you can, But quarantine yourself.

We all know that there are the things that are that we're going to do, no matter what the government says. It's the government action here that maybe exacerbating the problem, making things much much worse. Not then brings me to the case study of the subway here in New York City. It's a paper out of MIT that looks at the subway. This is a working paper by Jeffrey Harris. The subway seeded the massive coronavirus epidemic in New York City. Now

it's an academic paper. Here's what it says. Here's the abstract. New York City's multi tentacled subway system was a major disseminator, if not the principal transmission vehicle, of coronavirus infection during the initial initial takeoff of the massive epidemic that became

evident throughout the city during March twenty twenty. The near shutdown of subway ridership in Manhattan down by over ninety percent at the end of March, correlates strongly with the substantial rise in doubling time of new cases in this burrow. Increase in the doubling time of new cases in the burrow maps of subway station turnstile entries superimposed upon zip code level maps of reported coronavirus incidents are strongly consistent

with subway facilitated disease propagation. Local train lines appear to have a higher propensity to transmit infection than express lines. Reciprocal seating of infection appears to be the best explanation for the emergence of a single hot spot in midtown West Manhattan's right where I live, by the way, bus hubs may have served as a secondary transmission. Why has New York been hit so hard? Because we have a subway system with millions of people crowded into enclosed areas

and in some cases for long periods of time. I read through this whole study of the weekend. It's exactly what I've been telling family and friends for weeks in the city. This is what happened. New York had the spread of this because it's an international transit hub from Europe and from China both. We got it from both, and it started to spread rapidly here in the city. And it's spread far and wide along the same route

that the subway goes. And the worst cases were further out on the subway line places and far out Queens and far out Brooklyn. And it's because the longer you're on the train, the more people come on and off the train, the more prolonged your exposure, and there are more people to expose you too. That's what happened. I mean,

I've been looking at this for a long time. Someone like me I'm on the subway during the month of the highest spread of the desire, I should say the yeah, February when it was spreading effectively, completely unregulated, and no one really even knew about it, and then into March when everyone realized, oh my gosh, we got a monster on our hands here. I was on the subway four times a day, two subway rides to do my first radio show, two subway rides to do my second radio show,

every single day. But my subway rides last about ten to fifteen minutes because I'm only going on the island of Manhattan. I'm not traveling to the outer boroughs, so I spent less time. It still is at high risk for this disease, by the way, but I spent less time on the subway than someone who's coming forty five minutes an hour, an hour and fifteen minutes from far

out in Queens. Guests where you've had the worst pockets of worst pockets of disease, you know, the biggest outbreaks have been and far out on the subway line, though not away from the subway, far out on the subway line. And this all makes sense from everything we know about this disease. That it first of all, likes dark. It likes you know, dark and cool climate. It likes enclosed spaces, just like the flute. It likes people being close and

packed into each other. So you would come on the subway, be exposed this virus, and then go home to your community, and then spread it to more people in your community. And that kept happening and happening and happening all along the subway lines. It also explains why Manhattan has had far less exposure to this virus so far, understands exposure far and less cases of this virus so far than other places further from the center of the city and

commercial activity. And then you know what happened the city authorities after the subway had been the primary transmission mechanism, which I believe it was, Which is why why are we so much worse off than Los Angeles? Here? Los Angeles a huge city, millions of millions of people. We've got, we've got you know, I can't even do the math, but we've got such a worse situation here than Los Angeles does. It's not even close. Why would that be the case, Well, because Los Angeles doesn't have a mass

transportation system, and other cities. Yeah, they've had some bad outbreaks, but it's not spiraling out of control. They don't have a mass transportation system, the New York City subway, which is the transportation heart. You can't get anywhere here unless you're on the subway. Really, I mean, you can't go to work, you can't do it. You'll wait in traffic forever.

I mean, driving in and out of this city at the wrong time is almost impond People do it, but it's you know, it's a really difficult, really difficult thing to do every day. The subway is the heart of the city for commercial purposes, for transit purposes. Subway workers more subway workers per capita infected with coronavirus than the

worst zip codes of the five boroughs. So of course subway workers were particularly high risk of getting this because the subway was the main mechanism for transmission and they're on the subway all the time. So this is what happened. And you know what they told us to do once that had already spread far and wide on the subway lockdown, at home school shut down. Do you know what one of the worst things you can possibly do when you already have very widespread transmission of this virus is without

making any distinctions. Tell people who are younger and healthier, now, you can't even leave the house. You must stay at home all day coughing, touching things, coughing, touching things with you. You know, your grandma, your grandpa there, elderly relatives or your parents there. Who are you over sixty five? Yeah, that's what the city authorities. That was their plan. Lock everybody down at home. The disease had already spread all

over the city. You're here, They're going to find that at least a million people who are exposed to this at some level. To get anybody and have anybodies from it, that's my guests. We know over one hundred and fifty thousand cases confirmed, might have been two or three million people that have antibodies to this at this point or have been have at some level of exposure. And then they shut it down. They told everybody to go home. You know what I did made it worse. But listen

to the experts they tell you. Thanks for listening to the Bus Sesson Show podcast. Remember to subscribe on Apple podcast, the iHeart Radio app, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, Team I also wanted to check in on our friend in Brooklyn, mister Chadwick Moore. He is with us now. He is a commist for Spectator USA, and he is like me on Lockdown and also has a better beard, which makes me a little bit jealous. But good to see you, my friend. Hey, Buck, how's it going.

Nice to see you. Yeah, I'm you know, I'm hanging in there. Just promise me, if you're gonna go jogging, you're not going to wear a face mask during the jog. Okay. People are losing their minds in this city and it's starting to freak me out. Yeah, but then I might get reported by the squeal squaded by don't wear a face maskball jogging? Aren't you? Aren't you a little bit

taken aback by? Just how how overt the the nanny stadism and then the hall the hall monitorization of America has to become In some of these big cities Deblasio Garcetti, They're like, hey, if you see somebody I'm lder, we're gonna take out, like you know, rulers, or how are we gonna do these measurements? Oh, somebody was three feet away from somebody else in the grocery store. This is

just a it's absurd, beyond belief. But I think it really does show that unfortunately, this has become it's not even that it's just political. Political philosophy has has gotten involved in this now where the people that believe the state is competent think that the state should be able to do all these things right exactly. You know, I keep thinking of that Ralph Wigham, meaning like, look, I'm helping every time Deblasio tries to pretend like he's doing

as much as Andrew Cuomo or Eric Garcetti. Look, just a couple of months ago, the big story about these mayors, especially Eric Garcetti, was the absolute state of their cities in terms of the homeless crisis, the death the disease type point fever, bubonic plague on the streets of these homeless agamment. They were health department disasters these cities. These public health worker, city officials, cops, people work in city hall, especially in Los Angeles, We're getting diseases that we thought

were wiped out in the Middle Ages. Now suddenly they think that they can control this. It's almost like, you know, I guess that they feel they have to iwas ever increasing Dracconian measures just to pretend like they're doing something, to pretend like they're helping, when by a large what are these things actually doing. Nobody usually acknowledge the fact that the whole reason why people get sick more often in the wintertime is because they're indoors. There's nothing to

do with the cold making breeding viruses. I mean, they do tend to die off for and it's warmer out, but it's people being indoors and in close proximity to each other, being outdoors and maybe not not large gatherings, but these are helping things to do if you're staying

a way for other people. And also the you know, I mentioned the Nanni statism, but we're seeing something that's that some conservatives and I will admit some libertarians have been have been worried about for a while, and that is the the leveraging of the biggest social media platforms as really a tool of the state to shut down

I mean, now you know, Nebraska has had this. A bunch of other states I can't think of the top I think New Jersey was one of them, but a bunch of these states have had social media platforms say no, you're not allowed to organize a protest against the lockdown measures on our program on Facebook being the case in point, because the government says you can't, that any journalists would view that as anything other than a huge First Amendment

red flag. I mean, I know you could say it's not the state, it's it's but at the First Amendment, I mean, your free speech perhaps a better way to put it. This is mind boggling. I mean, now you can't even use your you can't even use social media platforms to redress, to gather together to redress your government for grievances. Exactly. Yeah, it's right now. It's been California, Nebraska, and New Jersey. Mark Zuckerberg, the most trustworthy man in America,

whoever would just loves cud league. Mark said to George Stefanopolus, I believe it was just today, or maybe it was over the weekend, so that we are removing pages of these groups that try to protest now these issues of this government overreach. I mean, this is a stuff that that really gets people were into political philosophy on the right, very fired up and very excited about it. I mean,

this is the definition of these govern overreach measures. Look at Michigan, where you can't go fishing by yourself in the isolated Upper Peninsula, but you know, and you can't buy your own seeds from the hardware store to grow your own food, but you can still buy lottery tickets. The governor can still have her hair and make up done professionally and before she goes on TV for thirteen hours a day. But you can't go fishing. It's absolute

government overreach. These you can't even buy furniture, doesn't want you decorating your homes. You can't visit your neighbors or family members. So just imagine if something the left really cares about saying these social media platforms started saying that Antifa couldn't hold their imaginary anti white suprema rallies whatever, How would the media be reacting, How would the left

be reacting. I mean, it just goes to show that we know, all along as these double standards that the left is certainly the media is in the pocket of the government of the left is certainly on their side. Uh. And it's it's so egregious. These social media companies, obviously they're doing nothing different than they've been doing forever. Which is silencing voices on the right that they do not like. It used to be individual characters, individual individuals, the individual

posts from people. Now it's these groups that just want to organize to speak their minds, and they now that we have this crisis and everyone is freaked out that these these giant tech companies are increasingly shameless and admitting how much control they have and how much centership they have. Google just the other day it was probably admitted that they're tracking people's movements by their cell phones in one hundred and thirty one countries to make sure that they're

social distancing and staying at home. Clearly that they're being they're being enlisted, and it's willing by these companies. All of the companies, I'm sure would say that they can be regulated by the state. If they didn't, you know, there'd be some executive order right that that Facebook or Google has to share this data. They are being enlisted by the state to control what we can say, to prohibit gatherings for specifically for political issues and redress of government,

and to share our movements with the government. That's that seems like this is the stuff that people have been talking about for a long time. Yeah, and anyone who ever made those comments about well, these are private companies, they can do whatever they want. That that I Roll and company. This just goes to show how how entwined they are with the governments in our states and our

federal government because they also are building our websites. You know, the state governors and the medal governments are happy to say that Google is helping them with their unemployment websites, with their COVID nineteen websites. So these companies have been for a long time entrenched in the state and uh and now they you know they can. They are just waving in our faces. Because who's really going to get upset if a bunch of right wingers in Michigan wanted

to get together and express their agrievances against the government. Uh. You may have also saw that tweet. I think it was last week North Carolina. A group in Raleigh wanted to organize in the police. The Raleigh Police Department tweeted that protesting is a non essential activity. Well, you want to get the blood boiling of any constitution, lover, then there you have it. And now there's one there's one topic that we're just we're switching gears here a little bit.

But this this comes from you, Chadwick. So I wanted to give you an opportunity to explain what this is you want to discuss today. How quote Joe Exotic is the greatest living gay role model end quote, Please explain? Well, that came from a calm I wrote in the Spectator. Joe Exotic is, of course the star of Tiger King. That that I'm sure most your audience now you know

you've been talking about it. Yeah, yeah, Who who would have thought that a gay, a gay man in heard print glitter who ran a private zoo in Oklahoma would have brought the nation together during the biggest crisis in our lifetimes. But he seems to have. Uh. Well, it's interesting because I love. What I love about him is he's the I Sir compared him to. He's the chaotic libertine right, and his arch nemesis, the Carol Baskin is so perfectly this authoritarian uptight. She's so Hillary Clinton in

a way, he's so Donald Trump. I think that's why a lot a lot of what one of the reasons why this show is resonated, because we're still reliving those two forces in our society and these two in this in this weird microcosm of private zookeeping, so perfectly put it together. But one thing that's interesting too is you might know, sure, he's got very sordid and grim life.

You know, there's drugs around him all the time. He seduces men constantly, but he's also he throws a wrench into the whole gay lobbies narrative that that and this is something I've known for a long time, being from a rural part of Tennis. See that you know that the Red State America, places like Oklahoma are filled with these homo hunting bigots, right when actually it's more of

this sort of in group mentality. It always has been that like, yeah, you know, there's gonna be differences, but someone like him, he celebrated his community and he's wildly homosexual and out there. Um and as it really destroys that narrative about about the blanket bigotry of Trump Country and Red America. And uh, I just have to ask, do you think he's guilty or you think he got set up? I think he got set up. I think he's another one of these examples I do now I

think that he um excuse me not covid um. I think that he It seems like and we and we've seen this with lots of high profile trials lately, like, um, you're gonna get some letters when I say this, But Harvey Weinstein, and I'm happy to go into why I feel that way, and with Roger Stone with a much better of these high profile trials where and where government resources are poured into investigate something and they got to

come up with something. They've got to something like over ninety nine percent of fedbroal cases end up in a guilty verdict or plea. I mean in the better vermic car. I think it's ninety seven, but yeah, ninety seven. This is a fedbroal case. So the fish and wildlife came in the FBI. So I don't think it was a

murderer higher plot against Susan Baskin. I mean that if you watch the film, it's extremely flimsy evidence, but with the abusing animals, probably seems like he had some tigers that he owned were maybe sick or too aggressive, and he just took out himself, killed them and buried him. I'm just gonna say this thing the one of the only things one of the only things that the American people in general will not abide. I mean, you know, murderer. Higher people might be able to say, you know, we

all make mistakes. You know, you serve your time. You you abuse and or kill animals like you know, you know, in an abusive and abusive way. People are out for you. Man, They're coming for you. It is especially I mean especially dogs or cats, but tigers, cool animals like that too. M The American people will not abide that at all. So I think you're right in that the opinion of the jury and everything, it wasn't the murder for higher thing. That's a little more like, well maybe he did, maybe

he didn't. It's oh, I'm sorry you were abusing. You were abusing these beautiful big cats that you were entrusted with. Unacceptable way. But but but hold on a second. There's one other thing. What do you have? Oh gosh, I'm like, how much trouble do I feel like? Really starting her? Do you have a little bit of a counter counter the narrative, a counter consensus, I should say, on Harvey Weinstein, are you one of those? I do? Yeah? I wrote about it too, because I mean, look, he's disgusting, he's

a scumbag. But if you actually look at what he was convicted of, and you look at the charges, so you had, you know, something like one hundred women accused him of various levels of appropriate sexual behavior, sexual assault or whatever that range from lots of different things. It's a trial in New York. Only two women, right, they were several years old accusations. There were women that after they were together, you know, sent him loving text messages.

I know they had continued relationships. I talked about this on my show, So I'm not I'm not about to, you know, slam this down and say, oh, we can't have his discussion. Yeah. Well, the thing that gets me about him is nobody with doubt that he's not a disgusting person. But but look at the culture behind that sent waynian that was another thing that was a jury

of public opinion he had. He got twenty three years where he said, she said, And when you look at the actual charges, it's so of course the media ran with convicted of rap in all the headlines New York Times, blah blah. Well yeah, but not really. I mean, when you think of rape, you think of violent first degree felonies,

sexual assault. He was actually convicted of like third degree statutory rate, but when you read it, it's actually the victim felt that they were unable to consent because of circumstance or physical the person, the other person's you know, physical problems. So basically like she felt she couldn't say no because he was fat, because he was powerful, so she never said yes. She never said no. You know, this is all this is kind of like nippicky stuff.

But the reason why and I have still remain interested in this case is this culture is coming for everyone. He just happened to be the worst one. Everyone knew this was happening in Hollywood. But every man out there if Harvey Weinstein get twenty three years or he said she said from several years ago, and the charges are basically, he had some grim sexual encounter with someone and she didn't say yes, but she didn't say no. And where is that needing our culture? You know? I mean, at

least he did get due process. I've been saying, look look at what they've done or whoever. Yeah, and I've been starting to cut you off. We have a delay, but look at what they've done with with Kavanaugh, and now what they've tried to do with Biden. By the standard will be weaponized to the utmost when it's politically, you know, useful, and it will also be discarded the

moment that it's it's problematic. And as I've said, the standard that they have said with Yancy and I by the way, I actually completely I hadn't heard your analysis. I completely agree with you. Okay, I think that this is I think that this is an and so and you and I would get yelled at for this by a whole lot of people, but I think we're right. I continue to have to say that someone is guilty of rape in a circumstance like this, with so little

evidence to say it's beyond a reasonable doubt. And a continuing relationship does not cast sexual relationship willful. Sexual relation does not cast any doubt on the allegation that's setting up people for down the line. Anybody can, as they say, get got by this one. Anybody could be in a whole lot of trouble. There's really no way to how do you defend yourself someone says, oh that one night, you know of the hundreds of times. But anyway, Chadwick,

I think we've caused enough trouble for today. My friend, how are you doing out in Brooklyn? You staying safe and staying indoors? I am, you know, yeah, you know, I've worked from homes and not just chains. And you know my house looks great. I've been gardening and anything. And I'll tell you what I've noticed as Brooklyn nights in my neighborhood are not I'm not gonna snitch by any means, but I've noticed they're a little defiance. They're not wearing the masks, They're ye out, They're out and

about the big you are people in Manhattan. The big pushback is coming, my friend. We'll have you back on to talk about that and more. Chadwick more everyone. Check him out at the Spectator USA, follow him on the social media chatbock. Thanks so much, you're in the Freedom Hunt. This is the buck Sexton Show podcast. I just want to remind everybody that we have stories going up now daily on buck Sexton dot com. The website is locked

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Don Lemon had some thoughts play sixteen. Does a president not understand that him coming out there every day and acting like a jerk is not going to help him with the American people. The American people are tired of it. It shows in the polling, and people are watching every day because they want information about saving lives. They want to know where they are when they can actually go back to work, and not about what a great job

he's doing. When everyone knows there's not enough testing, people don't want to go back to work if there's not enough testing. People are reticined to go back to work if there aren't tests if they don't know, if they have antibodies, if that's actually going to protect them from getting this virus. Is there a disconnect in the White House with this president? Does anybody talk to him about that?

Does anyone have the courage to stand up to this person, to this bully as we see him in this briefing room every day, to give him a real talk and say, hey, listen, you need to get out there and tell the American people the truth and stop acting like a big bully. Now. I know that was really stupid, right, but I made you listen to it because just remember, folks, CNN claims that that individual is not an opinion commentator, but that Don Lemon is a journalist, a news anchor, journalist. Thanks

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It is for twenty today. But I don't think anyone's gonna be making a lot of weed jokes. No one's really feeling that right now. Although I bet, I bet weed sales in places where it's quasi legal. Remember it's never legal in the federal sense, but it's legal in the states sense. I bet weed sales have gone very high, very high in this whole process, unintended. See what I did there, I don't even mean to, but the jokes

they still happen. Roll call let's do it, hey, Buck, this is don I'm one of the essential workers that rarely gets to mention delivering grub Hub and door Dash out here and right now. But I'm a displaced islander escape New York in nineteen ninety nine do the shooting on the Long Island Railroad and the First Trade Center bombing. I'm almost in the age danger zone for this, but I wanted to get out and help the restaurants stay

alive out here. I felt it was my mission to help out keep up the good work and shield time. I Man love the show. Well, don thank you for doing what you're doing. Man, you are you're helping. You're providing a lifeline to these restaurants and the people who work in them, and also people in the community. You know. The only thing right now that it allows me to have really have human contact in my day to day other than getting to get to get some chat with

producer Mark going here is I see somebody. Actually I don't even really see them anymore. That's true that they do that they drop it at the door. So but at least it's a nice little surprise like oh Thai food. Yeah, you know, it's it's look, we all meet our little things, our a little moment of things are not normal. But at least they're still ways you can have something to look forward to day in and day out. So don thank you for doing what you're doing and out there

in Colorado. Huh hm, Freedom ninety three seven in Denver. We love you, guys. Thank you for continuing to listen to the show. Mike write saying, hey, bucking producer Mark. I work in a large Fort Worth hospital. It is a ghost town right now. We have almost nine hundred beds and currently have about four hundred patients. Our emergency department normally has one hundred and fifty at any one time.

Now usually has about twenty to twenty five at any given time, down sixty five percent in patient volume with nearly four thousand employees. I don't see how this hospital is going to make it without the Feds paying for the service that they shut down. Mike, thank you for reaching out. I've been talking about this. I'm gonna continue

to follow it. The federal government is forcing hospitals in the name of in the name of expanding and protecting our healthcare capacity, the federal government is forcing some hospitals to go bankrupt. That's what's gonna happen here. That's why they're they're gonna need to have a huge bailout for the hospitals. Everyone's gonna be asking for bailouts. There's no business. Hospitals are furloughing employees all over the place. They have no money coming in. And most hospitals don't have a

huge COVID problem. Vast majority of them don't have a huge COVID problem. So what are we doing? This is the world we're living in right now. Government says we do, We don't question Greg. Greetings, Buck, thanks so much for having Devin Newness on the show yesterday. I was so relieved to hear the pressure continue to run the Russia scam. That the pressure continues to run the Russia scam to ground. I'm hopeful this effort will eventually to prison time for

deserving miscrey and such as Brennan, Clapper and Hillary. I would also like to see the investigation expanded. How many years ago did Shift learn the Russia hoax was just a Hillary dream? Yet he pursued character assassination, slander, and impeachment under false pretenses with his claims that the Shift fabricated phone call content demonstrated a continuing pattern of Trump's seeking alliances with other countries to interfere in US elections.

Thanks for all the great research and guests. Pass my regards to Lulah and Producer Mark. She'll tie well. Producer Mark will certainly get it to Lula. Right now is passed out on the couch in the sunlight. That's her favorite thing. She has a good setup. I gotta say, you know, it's uh. She rejected. I made her two different I cooked for her two different meals over the weekend for her dog food, because we don't give her

dog food. We give her like human food that's men for dogs, so not men for dogs, but that dogs can eat, you know, chicken and ground beef and things like that. She rejected two bowls. Producer Mark. I had to make her a third meal before she would actually eat it. She she swats the bowl away with her nose when she it's like, get this out of my face, peasant, bring me real food. Now. What do you do with

the food that she doesn't eat? Well, Usually she's kind of like licked it and sniffed it and it's a little gross, so we kind of toss it. Okay, that's where I was hoping. Oh okay. I was like, dude, I mean, are you trying to be wasteful or anything, But usually if the dog is already sniffed it and licked at it and everything else. And also yes, I mix in, I do have dry food for the dog that does not smell particularly good that you put in with the chicken and stuff. So like I'm not eating

that stuff. Well, then I understand why she wouldn't want to eat it that stuff scross. Yeah, yeah, that's true. So she's very she's very snooty or snouty perhaps, as the case may be, Adam Buck. Here in Michigan, we're seeing the beginnings of we will not comply. Seeing lots of fights on social media. Have been involved in a few. As you say, the argument always evolves into you want to kill Grandma, keep up the swoop and shields eye, yeah, Adam.

And people are dug in out to their trenches on this. They don't want to look at facts and logic. They just want to they want to be right, and they want other people to do what they tell them to do, which is a you know, I think there's a really deep philosophical separation between those of us who want want personal freedom and want others to have the same and

those who for whom freedom is a constant threat. Individual freedom is a constant threat to their perception of a good and ordered society, and they really think that the smarter, better people should be telling the other people what to do all the time. They're known as liberals, which is a bad name for them because they oppose liberty but the left. But it's more than just the designation as

political left. It's really a mindset. I think this is a deep, deep separation in the brain between those who think that human beings should be able to pursue their

own destiny and you know, within some limits. Obviously, I'm not I'm not an anarchist who's saying that we should have no government and nothing, but that we should have day to day choices and freedom, and the other people out there who think that anyone's real freedom is a threat to their sense of order and safety and safety not just meaning physical safety, but their emotional safety, their

psychological safety. This is, like I've told you the line about a Puritan is someone who worries that someone somewhere might actually be having a good time. In America today, a liberal is a person who someone somewhere is very concerned that someone might actually be living a free and prosperous life without being told what to do all the time. Also, I mentioned this at the top of the show. I

wanted to get to get back to it. If you're looking for books to read, a Homage to Catalonia is Orwell's third best work in my opinion, or most perhaps most powerful work. It's act. You could argue, I mean it's better. Well, no, Animal Farm is amazing for what it is. I was gonna say, you can maybe argue in nineteen eighty four is the best, but Homage Homage to Catalonia is nonfiction. It's about George Orwell's time. By

the way, you asked me for book recommendations. If you have not read nineteen eighty four, Animal Farm, and Homage to Catalonia one, two, all three, those should be top of your read pile right now. To everybody listening, if you have not read those books, please read at least one while we're all in lockdown. The first one, I would say as nineteen eighty four for the adults, maybe then how Mage to Catalonia, and then maybe Animal Farm. But you should read all of them and they won't

take you long. Those are books you should all read. And but I just noted this, that Orwell. This was making the rounds on social media the weekend that Orwell had this quote because he hated journalists, because journalists are generally very often very bad and self interested in gross people. Quote, it was the first time I had seen a person this is referring, I think, to communist communist agit prop inside of the Spanish Civil War. Oh that's what how

much the Catalonian is about? Is that Orwell was fighting on the side of the Well, fighting on the side of the communist against the fascists in the Spanish Civil War, And he said it was the first time that I had seen a person whose profession was telling lies. Unless one counts the journalists, I do not suppose I should exaggerate if I said that nine tenths of it is untruthful.

Nearly all the newspaper accounts published at the time were manufactured by journalists at a distance, and we're not only inaccurate in their facts but intentionally misleading. So yeah, journalists, bad bad, not I do not have a good record for truth telling. Just look up Walter Duranti if you want to know how much you know they're really there, really elite journos. What what kind of ethics they often display? So we're we're in roll call. I'm sorry I got

a little distracted. Um, but as for the swoop, the swoop is out of control. I don't know. I might have to go. The producer Mark has a has a buzz cut, and I might be heading. I might be following in his footsteps. Yeah, my wife just cut my hair. Like, I'm pretty much balled right now. There we go. Hey, how long did it take you when you get to the shower to dry that dry that bad boy? Like half a second? Yeah, that's where I thought. You need a blow dryer and all those tools, don't you. Oh yeah,

all the king's horses and all the king's men. You're in. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. I will say I did cook a lot over the weekend, and we're now going to uh, we'll start referring to my special the executive chef of all things Buck and Quarantine is my girlfriend, current lady lady friend, who we can refer to now and code name as snow Princess because that

is in fact what I call her. Because she's from a very snowy, very cold part of the country and snow Princess and I made amazing food this weekend and we made so I'm always in charge of the red meat and the and the protein. At least I shouldn't say always in charge, but that's my favorite thing to be She's gonna yell me for saying that. I'm just kidding, honey, but that's my favorite thing to be in charge of.

She's in charge of all the fancy. I mean, she made chocolate chip cookies from scratch, the best choco hip cookies I've ever had. She made burnette sauce for the burgers. She made risotto with shrimp. I mean I helped a little bit chopping some onions, but she made risotto with shrimp and calamari. And I'm just gonna say this. Producer Mark, I posted some photos of this for Team Buck to see, and the food was all delicious. A lot of Team Buck talking smack about calamari. Where do you fall on

the scale about liking it? Yes, so a funny story about calamari When I was a child. You know those buffets in New York City where you just get like a container, you put a bunch in and then your way if you pay that much money. I got a bunch when I was a child and thought it was onion rings. So then I eat it and I was disgusted. But then later on in life I try calamari. It's not bad. It's not bad on calamari, like it's not something. If it's made, well, fine, I will eat it. I

like it. If it's made portally, you know that you're eating octopus. I'm just gonna I'm just gonna call out team Buck right now. A lot of calamari haters out there in this audience across the country. I was surprised to see all that shrimp. They're cool. What they're cool? Shrimp, calamari, no dice, unaccepted. There are some people I know that if it was in the water, they don't want it. It's disgusting to them. Really Yeah, well that to me,

I've never come across that. That's that's crazy. What is by the way, with with the kosher, it's just no shellfish, right yeah, no other fish okay, but no shellfish yet that's what I thought. I do not keep kosher. I love shrimp, yeah, shrimp plot I mean, shellfish is my favorite of the fish. So I'm one of those, Andy, but I like to share it because I don't want to be shellfish. Oh yeah, I deserve that. Hey, I was a load for the for the well, actually I

wasn't alone this week. Let's let's a lie. Uh. I was gonna say, I have no I have no I have no justification for that bad joke, Andy, Hey buck, I have an opinion on meats. There we go, perfect timing. You always talk about the best steaks, but I think lamb chops are where it's really at. They're like tiny tea bones, but twice the meaty succulents. Also, mustache with no beard is definitely a bad call. Unless you can grow a huge, bushy, old timey mustache, She'll tie from Ohio. Well,

I can tell you Andy, that is very unlikely. I can grow a bushy, old timey mustash. And as for lamb, I love lambchops. I love lampshops. I'm I don't know. I've actually never made them for myself. I feel like there's always some frenching or something you have to do. You have to like cut the fat off, and I guess the butcher can do that for you. But where are you on Lamb chops producer Mark? I love Lamb chops, but like you, I've never made them myself. But I

love Greek cuisine. So I did make veal shop recently for the Snow Princess and myself, and it was phenomenal. I did do that. But you're gonna get some people not liking that. Buck. Oh, I didn't mean veal. I'man adult cow because don't eat veal. My bad. Just yeah, let's move on, shall we. Virginia, your Biden impersonation is the funniest thing I've heard in days. Thank you for the laugh. Wait, I just wait. First of all, hold on a second. Why No, I'm not gonna get into

the Veal versus Lamb debate. I'm gonna get going to get lit up on social media. Virginia. I'm glad that you I'm glad that you enjoy the buying impersonation. Thank you so much. I don't even know what I did to do it, but I just sort of got stuck in my head. And you're sure of her World War two and the boom, you know, he just starts talking

about stuff. We'll come together and we'll make it into Yeah, David writes in good interview with Jack Carr, I just saw that he has Ray Porter doing the audio versions of his books. That's a fantastic choice because Ray is one of the elite in the business, one of my favorites. Now to download all three books. Hey, that's great, man. I told Jack Carr, I'm reading right now. I mean I'm reading slowly, but I'm reading Savage Son. And Jack's

a great guy, really strong reputation. For everyone I've talked to in the media, military commune, media, military community. I think he's a great dude, and he's the real deal and such a nice guy. And like so many of the true operators that I have known, and even some that I was able to work alongside as a little civilian, you know, analyst person. UM, very humble about all that stuff. Whenever whenever I've come across for you know, with with

very few I can't even think of an exception. I'm sure there are exceptions, but all the Rangers and Delta and Seals and pjs that I've come across who have been in real combat, um, they're not They're not rocking around, flexing all the time. I just that's just that's been my experience. They're they're professionals who are silent about their exploits, not I shouldn't say silent about it, but who are humble about their exploits. There we go Stephen. Um. Oh wait, no,

hold on, Diane. First, we got to hold Stephen for tomorrow. Remember, everyone, go to bucksex and dot com. Check out the website. I've got a story there on the New York City subway situation that I will I want you to read. Diane Buck, what's up with Nancy Pelosi's disconnection with the needs of the people currently under duress? She has this let them meet kake, apparently with gourmet ice cream attitude.

My guess is she didn't do well in European history to know that approach did not serve public figures well in the past. Shields High and Diane, Nancy Pelosi is a smug elite lib and that's never gonna change. And she doesn't care how disconnected from people's pain she is. She's just about Nancy Pelosi and the left wing cause. So and look, I don't I don't hate an art as an ice cream. I like fancy ice cream and I admit it. Okay, I like I like all ice cream too much, job of the buck, but fancy ice

cream I'm good with. But I'm also in tune with how people have real challenges. All right, everybody, thank you so much for being here. Fantastic to have the team with me. We're getting through this team. You noticing that we're gonna get through this together. We're getting through it. We'll be there, we'll be on the other side of this before you know it. Until then, Shields Hi