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It's what you've been waiting for all day. The Buck Sexton Show joined the conversation called Buck Toll Free at eight four four nine hundred Buck that's eight four four nine hundred two eight to five the future of talk radio, Buck Sexton. You'll fire, you fired, your fire. You're fired, you fired, You're fired. You'll fired, ye fire, and now you can say you're fired fired. I was wondering what

you would say to President Obama, you're fired. Welcome to the Buck Sex and show everybody Trump dropping some pink slips today or at least, well at least a couple of them. You're fired. Uh Rex Tillerson. That's how that went down. Not surprising to me at all, although I'm not I'm not in the anti Tillerson camp. I thought that he was a pretty He seemed pretty confident to me, and he certainly would be sitting seating at the seat at the adults table within the administration. He's got a

guy with considerable experience, but he's out. As you know, I'm sure you've heard some folks talking about today. Well, we'll dig into that a bit. You have the the of Gina Haspell nominated as the CIA's first female director. You're got the first female director of the CIA, assuming that all goes through, and Pompeio, Mike Pompeo, the CIA Director, is going to head over to the State Department to

run things at Foggy Bottom. If they thought that things were a little rocky with Rex in charge, who, as I have said, does remind me of the old weather tough Texan sheriff and pretty much every Western I've ever seen. Uh, if they thought that Rex was rough, just wait till they get a load of Pompeo. And then there's some other guy who was uh oh, John McEntee, the former White House assistant. He was somebody was with Trump a lot.

He's one of these guys who, if you're not covering the White House, I feel like it doesn't really get all that much, all that much attention, or he doesn't get all that much attention. But he's out for security clearance reasons, but he's getting a lot of attention. Now. I will say this, I think that John Kelly, the White House Chief of Staff, finally decided that, you know, you know, how we deal with all the all the riff raff in the White House and get everyone fall online.

No more passes on security clearance stuff because there's no oh but I know so and so and I'm friends with so and so way around that stuff. Really unless you are the president, unless you're you are the elected official, because then the premise becomes the people have given you their trust and you get access to classified there's no there's no end runs or shortcuts on those investigations for administration officials. And I think that Kelly did the right

thing by saying are enough is enough? And if you if you can't get clearance, you shouldn't be around classified material and you shouldn't be in positions of such trust. And so you just cleaned it out a bit. Look, I think I'm getting a little ahead of myself here with uh where I wanted to go, because I was hoping to switch into the talk at the Wall, which we're gonna do in a second. But I think this is actually an upgrade for the administration, at least on

the secretary of State side. You need someone align with you, and Peo is a ligne with Trump. You need someone who's gonna fight for you and fight for your agenda. That's Pompeo, you know, Rex, good guys, smart guy, not on board for some important stuff, not on board for Iran, different on Paris climate accord, and doesn't look like he

was on board North Korea or tariffs either. So how are you going to be the president secretary of state if you're not really if you're not really going to be the person that believes in these policies, believes in what the president trying to accomplished. But I want to take a step back from that for a second. Everyone gets all excited about talking about personnel. We've got some other news to hit on, including the Pennsylvania congressional race

between Lamb and Saccone. Why is it shouldn't it be You're you're basically a Philly guy Scone, right, I mean, why do they that's the Italian should be Saccone, but they call it Secone. I never know, you know, man, it's uh, You've gotta I feel like I say Italian names wrong these days because did you americanize? Did you keep it? It's like a lot of US Irish folks. By the way, you'll notice i'mhearing green today. You're on radio at home, folks, so you don't know this, but

I'm wearing a green. It's right luck of the Irish, and we we got rid of the o's in front of most of our names. None on everybody like O'Reilly factor. But I'm pretty sure at one point I was I come from oh Hikey's. I'm pretty sure. Uh, I should check on that one before I say that would allow, but I think so. Nonetheless, Sacconi versus Lamb, I just did it, Saccone versus Lamb. That's gonna be a race where tonight it will be decided as we are, or the early results will coming as we're on air. I

don't think. I don't think we're gonna be able to tell you who wins tonight, although we'll see if for some reason it was a landslide one or the other, which would be completely contra the polling that we've seen, we'll let you know. So oh. Biden traveled to Pennsylvania to support Connor Lamb Democrats are really they're trying to make a thing of this one. It's all for the narrative, folks.

You gotta remember it's one congressional seat and there's a lot of members of Congress running around, which is important for you to remember because you can feel a little less terrified for our future when you hear what some of those bozos and Congress had to say. You're like, well, at least there's a lot of them. No one member of Congress really has that much power been speak of the House. There's some roles that have a little bit

of an elevated profile. But anyway, we got that pennsylvani your race, and we will we'll see what we can tell you about that. Solena Zito will be joining later to discuss She is uh former columns for the Pittsburgh Tribune. I mean she knows this area backwards and forward, so she'll be really insightful on it. And we also have Fred Flights joining, like me, a former CIA analysts, my my brother from Langley, Fred Flights will be joining talk

about North Korea and his sense of that. Not much new news on North creator Day, so or we're gonna get into the analysis of it with Fred later on, but I don't have anything breaking on it. So with all that, I'm gonna return to the issue of the personnel changes, probably later on the hour because I wanted to move, although I had to start with it so

we could play that you're fired clips. And it is funny now to me at least, that every time that you have one of these departures that is forced, the president is in a position where we can all remember that he was, in fact the guy most famous for saying you fired. I know people say you're fired, but I like saying it that way, the little Queen's rashness, little little New York style. You fired. That's how we do it here. So with all that, we can get

into the wall. You want to talk policy, you want to talk what's going to change the game and change the discussion. Trump was out in California today. I'm pretty sure there was like a two person fundraiser too, you know, as one does. But he was checking out the wall literally pieces of what would be the future wall. And he's also taking on the sanctuary city policies of California, specifically Californias become the front line of the fight against

illegal immigration because California does. This is what's fundamental to this discussion. The state of California does not see illegal immigration it's a problem. It sees it as a reality to be managed and to even be exploited as necessary and as is helpful to democrats and status. But they don't see it as a problem that needs to stop. They are encouraging it. We don't have in California, and this is true in some other states too, but it's

most true in California. We don't have a situation where the federal government and the state government differ on how best to achieve the same ends, which in this case would be stopping illegal immigration and enforcing immigration laws when it comes to illegals. No, the state government of California and the federal government is at a an impasse. They want fundamentally different things. They are working at cross purposes. They are against each other on this, and that's why

this is so politically combustible. It's not like they're saying, well, we want this and you want this, but we're trying to do it in different ways. We want to slow down, stop and prohibit illegal immigration, and they want to continue it. And just manage it. They see it as something to be managed. I'm not even sure you could say it's a problem to be managed. They they encourage. They think the legals are necessary for the economy, necessary for the votes,

necessary for the future of the state of California. At least that's what the elected I know a lot of you in California, like Buck, that's not what I think. But that is what the Democrat Party and the left in California have signed on for. And that's why Trump out at the wall today was so important. Like for example, when he's and this, you don't have a wall system, and we're gonna have We're not gonna have a country.

There's a lot of problems in Mexico. They have a lot of problems over there, and they have the cartels and the cartels. We're fighting the cartels. So we're fighting them hard. Nobody ever fought him like we fought him. I mean, we fight them hard. But the fact is, if you don't have a wall system, it would be bedlum I imagine it's very hard to control a just personnel there. It's a combination of all. So we'll look at it. The walls where you have some three really

some sea through capability. If you don't have some sea through it's a problem. So we'll take a look up here, President saying you need a wall. Isn't it noteworthy that as he's out in California and San Diego, he is in fact in a place that has a wall, and that has dramatically improved the ability of border patrol to do their jobs. It has made it easier re border patrol to secure the San Diego sector of the world. No one saying it's perfect, but no security measure is perfect.

There is no such thing. People will say, oh, well they'll get a they'll get a ladder, or they'll dig a tunnel. Well yeah, but that doesn't stop anyone else from building walls for any number of reasons. It's not supposed to be a cure all. It is supposed to be an impediment. And that is obviously what a wall is all about. You know, it doesn't even get much attention right now, but the most by a recent statistical analysis.

I forget who did it, so I don't want to throw that out on the air, but we'll figure it out. The most dangerous city in the world per capita, right now for murders is it was Warez for a little while, and I think then it moved down into Central America and now you know, Caracas and Venezuela is definitely trying to get to the top spot. But the most dangested in the world as of last month per capita was Cabo.

Those of you who are familiar with the geography know that Bo is on the tip of the Baja Peninsula and they're Los Cabos. The cities that are there used to be and still are actually, I think a pretty popular tourist destination, which is amazing. I checked it out. I was just curious, what's it like you try to go to Los Cabos now are there? Yeah, they're still eight night hotel rooms there and people are still going, I suppose. But they have the highest murder ra per

capita of any city in the world. Why is that, you say, Well, because of the cartels, Because the Sinaloa Cartel and some of these other cartels, the Nuevo Generation Cartel, um Nuevo Jalisco Generation Cartel and some of these others are all fighting it out for supremacy. But the worst part of the border right now for crossings is not the San Diego secret, despite the fact that Baja the peninsula, which I know is very long, but is home to some really nasty cartel violence. No, no, it's it's in

other places along the border. You know, they've even this is people don't see nearly enough of of this reporting. Acapulco, which is a internationally known beach resort I believe, has had to deploy the military in Mexico to its beaches, not even to protect tourists, just to protect locals who want to go to the beach. They have marines, Mexican marines who have to go to the beach that people are able to go without fear of being shot or kidnapped.

That is right across our border, folks, that kind of violence. And you know, when you start to look at what we could do to make things easier for us and easier for our Mexican counterparts, you know that's a part of this too. I actually want a prosperous Mexico. I want the cartels to be up against it. I wanted to be much less appealing for people to break our laws because it is much more appealing for Mexicans and Central Americans to stay and build prosperity in their own countries, right.

I mean that that's what I think we could all say we would like that. And making it a more secure border, building this border wall, helping our border patrol on our Mexican counterparts is all a part of that.

As long as you have cartels that have bank rolls that will will make corruption widespread with the Mexican government of Mexican security forces, and as long as the cartels are able to fight over billions of dollars, you're not going to have a secure stable Mexico and you're gonna have problems that spill over into our own country, which Trump is also taking note of. And I mentioned to you yesterday with MS their team we got more on the boarder we gotta talk about here. As you can tell,

I find this to be an incredibly important issue. I think it's important for the future of this country. And I think that Trump drew a line in the san today. You could say he put the first brick up in the wall by making it quite clear he's not backing off this one. A lot of the haters, the underminers, uh, the detractors from Trump have been and you're not going to get this wall. It's a lie. He's clowning you. Oh yeah, there's no way he can walk back from it. Now.

He's got to do everything he can to get that wall. And I think he's going to This is the guy who agreed to meet with Kim John Un despite all the conventional wisdom against it. Right. I think you're also seeing the president today who's going to be the one who starts getting that wall built. And that will be It will be a game changer. It was a game changer for Israel, and oh guess what, it's been a game changer at the San Diego sector of the US

Mexico border. So we have proof already. If it wasn't gonna work, the left wouldn't hate it so much. Alright, alright, I'm fired up. I know we will be back with much more on this. Stay with me. Both countries recognized the need to stem the cross border flow of illegal weapons, drugs, people, and cash. I have a great relationship at the President of Mexico, wonderful guy Enrique, terrific guy. We're working, we're trying to work things out. We'll see whether or not

it happens. I don't know that it's going to happen. He's a very good negotiator, he loves the people of Mexico, and he's working very hard. We'll see what happens. I like how even Trump, with all of his optimism and salesmanship, is like, I mean, it might happen, Like maybe it won't happen. But usually he's like, Oh, we're gonna get it done. It's gonna be amazing, it's gonna be great, you know, And that's part of his his charm and

his power, quite honestly. But on this one, he's like, I don't know if Mexico is gonna be like all on board for this. I'm not sure. I could not sure. I could promise that, but I can't promise the wall, and he certainly is promising. By the way, Producer producer Mike actually has some some numbers for me. So well, So what I said about the cities what was true here?

Lobos was one, Caracas is two, and Acapulco comes in third. Damn, look at I did not even know that, and those three cities came up in my discussion because that is how I roll. So there you go. Yeah, the violence in Venezuela's pretty self explanatory if you know what's going

on with the government. But Acapulco, I think it's mostly because the I believe the Sinaloa cartel, which is really the oldest, is fighting a turf battle with the Nuevo Helisco or Helisco Nuevo Generation cartel, and which is ultra there. I mean they're both ultra violent, but they're they're finding out in Acapulco. And and then yeah, Los Cabos, but people still go there because I still if you go on, if you go on like hotels dot Com right now and you look up places in Cabo, they're like all

in cloth with twelve to night for mom cation. Ya mom cation Cabo. No, moms do not mom cation Cabo. No. No, many petties on the beach in Cabo stay there? Yeah what what? What's a murder? Yeah? Bad things going on there, bad things going on there. You did not want to be anywhere near that. So, nonetheless, we we got to talk more about Trump in this policy of fighting. So we know the wall is important. He promised the wall, and also the other side was saying you'll never get it.

He is threatening to veto the next funding bill if there's not funding for a wall. This is you know, with Congress funding for a wall next budget bill. And also sanctuary cities get defunded unless they stop their anti rule of law shenanigans. Nless they stop their lawlessness. What's that gonna look like? What's that gonna mean? You can see we're heavy on immigration this hour. We'll talk more about White House personnel and some other stuff. Stay with me.

He's back with you now, because when it comes to the fight for truth, the fuck never stops. California sanctuary policies put the entire nation at risk. They're the best friend of the criminal. These smugglers, the traffickers, the gang members, they're all taking refuge. These policies released dangerous criminal offenders to prey on innocent people and nullify the federal law. They're threatening the security and the safety of the people

of our country. The presidents going after sanctuary cities too. The promise here is that if they don't fall in line and start supporting federal law and stop supporting lawlessness, they're gonna stop getting some federal grant money. That's going to really sting some of these locales. What's the point of the federal government having grant money to give or not give. If states and cities get it without compliance to what the federal government is requesting, right, then then

it's not a grant. Then it's just a demand. Then it's a an expectation. And what was it? He talked about it later today as well. You know, Trump spoke to a group of Marines and mentioned sanctuary cities to them too. My administration is confronting sanctuary city policies that nullify federal law, violate our constitution, and threatened the safety

and security of our nation. They shield criminals. We can't do that, and that is why we are asking Congress to ensure that no federal funds subsidized this dangerous and unlawful behavior. We want to protect you, and we want to protect all of our families. We want to protect our nation. There is no other area of criminal law of which I am where at least that has cities, elected officials, even law enforcement, law enforcement officials too, who

actively subvert criminal law. There's there's no other area that I'm that I'm aware of, um where this, where this happens in this way. Keep in mind that as much as I disapprove of the message, that's sent about federalism and about the role of the federal government. The states with the California legalization, uh de facto legalization in gosh if it's Colorado and Washington. But there are some other places have followed suit, right, or they've at least decriminalized it.

There are a few places now, but a couple of states stretching back for a few years, have effectively decriminalized marijuana. But that's different because the federal government has said, all right, we're cool at that for now. Do I think that that's a good way for the country, But no, I think that Congress should you know, either, they should pass laws that prohibit substances at the federal level using the interstate commerce clause. By the way, which is distressing. The

interstate commerce clauses abused by status. It is the many headed hydra from which so many of our authoritarian ills stem in this country. So much of what the federal government does that it shouldn't is because of Wickered v. Philburn and the interstate commerce clause. Quick version of it is the guys selling wheat, but he's like, I'm not selling across state lines, so they say, well, selling it

within state lines. Affects the price across state lines. Therefore, will regulate it as though you're selling it across state lines. Once you apply that logic to things, there's really no there's no such thing as a state anymore, which is how you had in the nineties. Even the Violence Against Women Act pass at a federal level, even though all fifty states had statutes criminalizing, as they should domestic violence. But it's not a federal government issue. It's a state

and local issue. But they said, well, it affects commerce. They've done this with any number of things. But if marijuana is not going to be illegal, the federal government should back off and not have it be illegal. Nonetheless, the point I'm making is about the state versus the federal and on drugs, at least the federal government says, okay, states will allow it. With immigration and sanctuary cities, the federal government's like, no, no, no, we gotta this is

an urgent problem. We've got to handle this. We've got way too much illegal immigration happening in this country, way too many legal aliens running around. Many of them are dangerous, They're committing a lot of crimes, and this is a problem we have to address. And state and local governments are saying, sorry, I don't want to know no part of They don't want to help you on that one. Listen,

I mean, nowhere else do you have this. Nowhere else do you have government authorities who are supposed to be about the rule of law, who are actively working to undermine the rule of law. And Trump has had enough of it and s indeed California is ground zero for this fight. And Trump singled out Governor Jerry Brown for being among the worst of the worst offenders of the sanctuary city policy type. Thank you having a Brown has done a very poor job running California. They have the

highest taxes in the United States. The place is totally out of control. You have sanctuary cities where you have criminals living in the sanctuary cities, and then the mayor of Oakland goes out and notifies when Ice is going in to pick them up. And many of them were criminals with criminal records and very dangerous people. You would say, dangerous people. And uh No, I think the governor is doing a terrible job running the state of California. I

think that's fair to say. I've got so many friends who live in California, who are like, yeah, it's beautiful here, it's great, but the taxes and government services and infrastructure, you know, not unless you are really rich and you know already got a maid in shade, you do not want to try to make it happen out in California.

They say, it's just it's just too hard. Um, it's just there are too many regulations and too many hurdles putting the way of success, and successes increasingly penalized there. So look, I this is where you got to see if Trump is Trump is really going to get it done. There's no way for him to back off. There's no way for him to back off the wall without letting his base down there. It's it's just not possible. And

I think this is one issue. You know that the Trump supporters, the real die hard Trump supporters, believe that they can give some leeway to Trump to get certain things done. They're not, oh, well, he's gonna get it all right away. But the day that Trump says, sorry, we can't make the wall happen and it's not and it's something that I could do something about, is the day that his base starts to crumble. If he and

if he livers on the wall. The the opposite effect will happen, which is his base will stay with him through They'll give him so much, but let'll stay with him through anything, because I'll know. That was the single biggest promise of his entire campaign. That was also the promise that was most ridiculed by the left, and that got the Democrats the most upset. So the wall is

a big deal. Um it is. It is a big deal, and it's not gonna get built all at once, and I know there's gonna be problems and everything else, but getting it going sends huge signals. And that's why Trump is out there today talking about how important it is to put up this wall and what it will mean for us going forward. You know, just just imagine if our southern border was like our northern border in terms of not having to worry as much about legal aliens,

about criminal infiltration, even possible terrorist infiltration. We could live in that world. Our northern border doesn't keep us up at night with worry. Our southern border shouldn't, and it should be addressed. And this is an old school solution

for a current day problem. Create an obstacle that gives you better ability to police and and gives you that additional, really real force multiplier effect of having yes, border patrol that can react quickly, have drones in the air, have all the different sensors and electronic assistance that they can bring to bear. But also you know, not just play, uh, you know, hide and seek and run around in the desert and trying to find people when all they could

do is just keep walking. That's going to be a game changer, I think eight four four d to eight to five. If you want to chat about this or anything else, eight four four nin buck, You've got a lot more, including what's going on with the whole Tillerson Pompeo shake up. I'll give you more thoughts on that, So stay with me. You honor your duty to your country. Now we must honor our duty to you. For too long, the men and women of the United States Armed Forces

have been asked to do more with less. You've borne the costs of under investment and deferred modernization and also deferred maintenance. You've endured longer and more frequent deployments. You've spent countless hours fixing and maintaining old equipment. President Trump, speaking earlier today at the Marine Corps air Station Miramar

in San Diego. And it's always, I think some notable that when Trump speaks to the troops, he speaks with a a an affection and a reverence and our respect that is very apparent, despite the fact that the media has been trying for a long time to suggest that Trump doesn't respect the military, doesn't respect military service because of things he said to political opponents, UM and and every person and I know people on all sides of the aisle and all kinds of stuff, including military and

intelligence work, but all the military folks I talked to her like, yeah, Trump is. Trump is very well liked as commander in chief, overwhelmingly well liked as commander in chief, and I don't think there's nearly enough attention given by

the various media outlets to that fact. And his focusing on rebuilding parts of military that have not received adequate funding, and his efforts to improve different parts of that authorization and financial authorization process, I think is getting a lot of people over onto his side, for um uh, from those who are military and also from the veteran community

to um. But he also mentioned nuclear force specifically, we're also modernizing our nuclear capabilities and rebuilding our nuclear infrastructure. We're investing more money than we have ever done before because we have to be so far ahead of any other country. It's a capability we never even want to think about using, but we have to be prepared, and in a nuclear front, we are so far and will

be so far ahead of any other country. You know, I think it's notable that with the recent bluster from Vladimir Putin on the nuclear weapons that he has in his arsenal, it's not some people said he doesn't have that capability and this stuff he's talking about with the you know what, hypersonic glide vehicles and things like that. Uh, it's not that it would be impossible to do. Just many of the analysts I saw said they're not they don't believe, or they're not sure that Putin has already

gotten there. But these are things that will most likely be a reality very soon if they're not already, and that will change the way that we have to think

about missile defense and intercontinental ballistic missiles. And once you start adding advanced technologies into it, you know, you no longer have mutually assured destruction if one side can reasonably be expected to shoot down whatever missiles may come its way, if they're old school missiles or or on the other side of it, if one side of the equation, say the Russians or somebody else, has missiles that can reliably get around any defense that we have, you know that

that changes the strategic calculation. And I think Trump is aware of this, and it's very just like with Reagan. You remember, these are very expensive issues and you have to take a long term view. But if we want to maintain all our military pre eminence and can maintain our role as the world superpower, we can't allow ourselves to fall behind on this and think in terms that

are outdated about all of it. So oh, but there's one other part is that it was like a hey moment today, I'm like, WHOA hold on a second, it's Trump really gonna yeah, he's going there. He's talking about talking about space and the space race in terms of national security. So think of that spaceforce because we're spending a lot and we have a lot of private money coming in tremendous you saw what happened the other day,

and tremendous success. From the very beginning, many of our astronauts have been soldiers and sailors, airmen, coast guardsmen and marines, and our service members will be vital to ensuring America continues to lead the way into the stars. We're gonna lead the way in space. We're way way behind and we're catching up fast. Space Force. I like it. I want to be a part of Space Force sounds awesome. I'd want some kind of laser gun that goes pu P, you know, Space Force. Think you'd be a lot of fun.

I would enjoy it. But it is getting more and more a reality. You mentioned the private sector money that's coming into it. Look at what Elon Musk just said, I think yesterday about Mars. Get yourself to Mars. Uh. That's a reference to total Recall Schwarzenegger, who will be making an appearance later on in the show as well. But yes, Elon Musk play it. We're building the first ship, the first Mars m interplanetary ship UM right now, and I think we'll prob fail to do short flights, short

sort of up and down flights UM. Only sometime in the first half of next year. I'm gonna have ships visiting Mars. Folks. You know, this is one thing that the climate change alarmists and the radical environmentalists left and the redistributionists who just think that we have a It's all about what we do with the pie we have now, not what the the economic pie looks like tomorrow. Uh, you know what the government can do with it meeting who they give it to, is that this is all

gonna be changing so rapidly. You know. One thing I will say is I kind of hate airlines. And I know it's easy to hate on airlines, but I really have a tough time not hating on them these days. Uh, every time I fly, there's a problem, and it's it's as reliable as clockwork. Every time I fly there is a problem. And I saw that terrible story about a woman who had to put her was forced to put her dog in the overhead compartment and the dog died.

I would lose my mind. I hope she sues that airline out of you know, sues it's pants off, so to speak. And I just would like to see technology advanced to a point where we can get airlines that are not punishing us so that they can make more money, because that's what they really do. It's it's put you in the most uncomfortable seats in the most uncomfortable places, and you know, and and have you at their mercy and everything else, and it's all for their bottom line.

And I would just love to see disruption in that industry. And I'm hoping that air and space travel will advance to a point where we can finally say sayonara to the old version of the airlines we've seen for decades now, where it's just it's it's their world and you're living in it for the few hours or whatever it is that you're trying to get to wherever it is you're going. It's uh, you know, space flight. I know it's not directly tied in this, but I'm thinking about flying cars too.

And all this technological progress is going to change a lot when it comes to policies, and so you want to you want to keep that in mind. Maybe another day I'll give you a speech on how we're decarbonizing as a society already. And that's why the climate change alarm is just have no idea what they're talking about. We are naturally decarbonizing using less carbon intensive fuels all the time. It's happening as a result of technology. Um,

but there I go on all that stuff. We're gonna get into the taylorson Pompeo shift, and maybe also that poisoning in Russia, and we'll talk about that and more coming up here. He's holding the line for America. Buck Sex in his back. Welcome to our two of the Buck Sexton Show. I thank you very much for being here.

We have the firing of Tillerson as Secretary of State to get into for a few moments here, as well as the elevation of see I Director Pompeo to the Secretary of State role, and the also the promotion of a woman to head the c I A. And then you have a Trump aid who has gone for security clearance reasons. I don't find that last part of it all that interesting or noteworthy. Money if people leave administrations for reasons like this all the time, So I'll leave

that one off our docket for now. But Tillerson, uh, well, he said this about the end of his tenure as what we used to refer to as Sex State. Here's what he said. I received a call today from the President United States at a little afternoon time from Air Force one, and I've also spoken to White House Chief of Staff Kelly, to ensure we have clarity as to

the days ahead. What is most important is to ensure an orderly of smooth transition during the time that the country continues to face significant policy and national security challenges. Has such effective At the end of the day, I'm delegating all responsibilities of the office of the Secretary the Deputy Secretary of State Sullivan. My commission is Secretary of State will terminate at midnight mart one, so he's out. I didn't have a whole lot to say about the

President on this one. Did mention what's sort of left to deal with in terms of the portfolio the Secretary of State, notably China and Russia. Much work remains to establish a clear view of the nature of our future relationship with China. How shall we deal with one another over the next fifty years and insure a period of prosperity for all of our people's free of conflict between two very powerful nations. And much work remains to respond to the troubling behavior and actions on the part of

the Russian government. Russia must assessed carefully as to how its actions are in the best interests of the Russian people and of the world. More broadly, continuing on their current trajectory is likely to lead to greater obscolation on their part, the situation, which is not in anyone's interesting. So Tillerson is done, and now we have to look at what that means going forward. Now, now I mentioned the last hour, I think that Pompeo makes more sense as the person to be in this role. I think

that Pompeo is aligned with Trump on policy. I think that Pompeo is a a guy who understands the political fight that the administration is currently in. And I believe that Pompeo will be more effective then Tillerson was on issues like Iran and their recertification or the lack of certification, whatever ends up happening, on the Iran nuclear deal, on dealing with these upcoming North Korea talks, and then also

everything else that comes long being Secretary of State. I just think that Pompeo and Trump, well, Trump says this, and it's not just my my opinion, man, it's also but the President himself has made quite clear um that he really gets along with Pompeo. I've worked with Mike Pompeo now for quite some time, tremendous energy, tremendous intellect. We're always on the same wavelength. The relationship has been very good, and that's what I need at a secretary

of State. I wish wreck Pillerson well. Gina, by the way, who I know very well, who I've worked very closely, will be the first woman director of the c I A. He's an outstanding persisdon who also I have gotten it over very well. But I don't have any opinion for you really on the the new the new director. Um, I've been out long enough and away from it long then off at any of the kind of you know, I don't. I mean, I don't. I don't know her, So I don't know anything about this. Got nothing for

you on it. That's what I'm trying to say. So if Trump says she's good, I mean, all I know is what I'm reading about in the newspapers, just like you. And we'll have to see first female though, to head the agencies. So that's that's gonna be an interesting talking point that will get lost very quickly because the media that the media doesn't consider women who are Republicans, or even women in a Republican administration to be breaking any

glass ceilings that that can't really happen. But Pompeo over chillers didn't what to see. I mean, Trump said that look that that Rex and he that they were just having some some issues between the two of them, that's one way to put it. I really didn't discuss it very much with them, honestly, Uh. I made that decision by myself. Rex wasn't you know, in our in this country. I made see North Korean decision with consultation from many people.

But I made that decision by myself. I actually got along well with Rex, but really it was a different mindset. It was a different thinking. I've gotten the long well with Mike Bumbao, and frankly, I get along well with Rex su And you know, I wish Rex a lot of good things. I think Rex will be much happier now. I think so too. So I don't really want to

get to now. Tillerson gets to go back to being the former CEO of Exxon Mobile, the until recently it's the biggest company in the world, and he's gonna be someone who you know, he has a lot of he can spend a lot of money, He's got a lot of money, he can hang out and do whatever he wants, and he was just too much of an alpha dog to play the role that he needed to in this administration. We all know in Trump world there can only be

one alpha dog. And you know, Rex Tillerson, I think, was always kind of like, I don't need this job. I'll do it to serve my country. But if you take that position and you don't see eye to eye with Trump on where things need to go, it's gonna be tough. It's gonna be tough. You get you get to to alpha's in the room. You know, two can enter, only one, only one will leave, right I mean to or like Highlander, there can be only one. It was like that in this administration. That's my analysis is the

Highlander theory of Trump's cabinet picks. There can be only one. So there you have it much for you on that before Other than that, you know, I think I'm gonna I want to mix it up here. I want to talk to you about something that I'd be willing to bet you haven't heard much coverage of anywhere else, if any and the media is trying very hard not to cover it. And I've got just enough for just enough

vetting an analysis of it to share the tonight. Did you know that South African South African government may go forward with and appropriation which is just a fans we have saying season land, season land from farmers. Why are they season this land from the farmers because the farmers are white. This is a whole campaign that is being ignored, swept aside, kept out of the public's eye, and we have to start asking why why is that the case?

Why are am I sitting here? And I'm willing to bet that very few of you have heard, um maybe some of you have seen something on social media about it, but it is it is very much going on that there is a campaign now to dispossess people in South Africa, which is the wealthiest country in Sub Saharan Africa. Do you dispossess people based on their skin color? Because the government now is saying, particularly the more radical Marxist elements of the South African government are saying that the land

was never there is to begin with. And some very very disturbing stuff is coming out about all this, and it's gonna be tough for the media to keep hiding

what's going on here. You have campaigns, uh systemic campaigns of intimidation, violence, and rape against the white farmers that have been well documented now and the government is not only unwilling to help, but there was one case that I read about where a woman was trying to defend herself, I believe, with a firearm and she ended up being arrested.

So you've got very very dangerous things going on right now in South Africa, and I just want to talk to you about what's happening there because how is this not a bigger news story? And also, at what point do we get to say that the Trump administration should consider taking in these farmers as refugees. They're English speaking there from a a an Anglo Anglo tradition of of culture and rule of law. How how about we open our doors to the the farmers in South Africa who

are being threatened with murder and dispossession of their land. Now, this is a question that I'm just wondering why no one's really asking it, but you see this happening time and again. It's kind of like the Christians in Iraq. You know, they're they're facing extinction and they're being openly targeted. But you know, we we can't really help them here because because what their minority there, they're under threat. Well yeah, but we don't want to seem like we're playing favorites.

We play favorites with refugee populations all the time, but when we look outside our own borders, we have this sense of well, whoever is a minority or a a you know, somebody who's either suffers from oppression or enjoys privilege here, they must have the same thing and the rest of the world. That's not how the world works. I just think you'll find this to be a fascinating

story and and frightening. And when you look at the precursor situation or the most similar situation with Zimbabwe next door are h then you see what the future could look like unless this gets stopped in the international community should have a role to play here. The US government should speak up. I'll give you some of the details on this week. Come back. I think you'll be fascinated by this. Stay with me. So, what is going on

in South Africa right now? It's been some reporting on it here and there, but there seems to be an unwillingness or a desire in the media to not pay any attention to this, even though some of those who are in positions of authority and power saying some pretty terrible things in South Africa's parliament just past emotion in the last few weeks that would that could lead to the seizure of land from white farmers, and that can get very violent and very scary as well. And on

top of that it's deeply immoral and wrong. But you have, for example, Julius Malema, who is a far left Marxist radical but elected member of parliament in South Africa, who at a at a rally earlier this year said this about the white farmers that's been living peacefully, that had been swimming in a pile, be going themselves because they're always the high school older. Our peace was this time by white men's arbal. They call me black gino sign.

They killed our people. King pay whats gotten to step them keeping when they found the place put up against here, they killed them. There's them like we are not calling for the lot of white people, at least for them. I know it was tough with the audience here, he said at the end. This is the leader of the Economic Freedom Fighters Party in South Africa. He's a political leader there. He says they're not calling for the slaughter

of white people yet. Is that a public rally, folks, That that's the kind of thing that you know in most countries, most societies would raise a lot of eyebrows, get a lot of attention. This was earlier this year and there is some reporting on this, but not nearly enough. Here is part of a report from sky News, the UK owned international news channel, and here's what they rep order had to say about the violence against white farmers in South Africa. What we've saying over there is is

placed to respond. They will turn up, but it seems hardly anyone has ever arrested. I think another problem with South Africa has been this mandate to him employ the cycle previously disadvantaged at any cost, and that's including in the place force. So we have very lovely skilled place who don't seem to have the capacity to investigate these crimes properly. What's refferm to you with employing the previously

disadvantaged is effectively a form of affirmative action. So you're saying you've got police that have no skills, have no idea what they're doing, but they're being employed for largely political reasons. Who are showing up and being told, hey, this white farmer has been attacked in what is a a racial and racist attack right there, attacking people because they're white, and they feel that they have a green light from the government which just voted the parliament just

voted overwhelmingly to seize the property of white farmers. Of farmland in South Africa is in the hands of white farmers, and they show please show up, and you know they don't want to. They they don't want to or unwilling to do anything about it, or unable to do anything about it because of their lack of training. So this is really disturbing stuff. And and people are saying, well, why don't the farmers leave. We'll think about this. Who

are they going to sell their land to? And their farmers, their their livelihood, everything is tied up in their land. If they leave, what do they have. Who will even buy the farm from them? The answer is nobody, because right now the government's talking about literally seizing it, nationalizing for the purposes of social justice or in this case, racial justice, nationalizing farms to redistribute to the people. By the way, this is very similar to the social justice

rhetoric you've heard in Venezuela until recently as well. Oh, we have to give more to the people, land to the people, redistribution reforms. This stuff always ends in disaster. It is ended an absolute disaster next door in Zimbabwe, which had the same program going on basically now it's not it's has to still pass that has to be signed off on, but the legislative branch of the South

African government, the parliament, has passed it overwhelmingly. In Zimbabwe, the seizure of land from white farmers, which was done with with the absolute you know, complicity and on the orders really of the government, has turned Zimbabwe from a country that was Southern Africa's bread basket into a country that can't feed itself, that has to import food, that has food shortages regularly um and has hyper inflation of a level of the currency has actually turned into nothing.

Their their currency has really no value. They've abandoned it. They literally inflated the currency into into zero. Uh. But things did not get better when they did their land appropriations there. And if you want to see what that was like, because it was happening relatively recently, a documentary, I would recommend to you is Mugabe and the White I believe it's Mugabe and the White African um which I saw years ago and it's specifically about is that

mcgabi in the white Farmer? I can't remember. Um, I'll producer, Mike, let me know which one. It is a documentary. It's very good. I saw maybe ten years ago. And it shows you you've got a documentary is living on a on a white farm? This is in Zimbabwe now next door formerly Rhodesia and Zimbabwe after independence. Uh, and they've got these what is it, the white African? Yeah, Zimbabwe and the white Mugabe rather and the white African. Mugabe is the dictator of or was until recently the dictator

of of Zimbabwe. Very bad guy, by the way, very bad guy. Um. But in that you see these government officials who show up and are just like, you know, you white people are scum, your thieves. This is not your land. It's our land now it belongs to the people. Which by the people they just mean government cronies and the power structure. But they're just gonna take it. And what happened is they stripped the farms down to nothing. Nobody was able to or cared to be able to

plant any crops. They just this is you know, they took all the I mean the copper wiring out of the buildings, They took the farm equipment, they sold it off. Everything was sold and destroyed and nothing left. What do people that think is gonna happen if they seize the farmers from the farmers in South Africa? What messages that

send of the world. By the way, Yeah, this is distressing and I just would want to note, given to how much we talked about refugees, we take refugees from Central America because Central America is violent, not because Central Americans are being targeted for being Central Americans. We're talking about racial targeting by the government in South Africa, a relatively advanced economy and country. Why haven't you heard about this until now? He's holding the line for America. Buck

Sexton is back. It is now clear that Mr. Scrippan and his daughter were poisoned with a military grade nerve agent of a type developed by Russia. This is part of a group of nerve agents known as Novi chok.

Based on the positive identification of this chemical agent by world leading experts at the Defense Science and Technology Laboratory at Porton down our knowledge that Russia has previously produced this agent and would still be capable of doing so, Russia's record of conducting state sponsored assassinations, and our assessment that Russia views some defectors as legitimate targets for assassinations.

The government has concluded that it is highly likely that Russia was responsible for the act against Serge and to the Theresa May, British Prime Minister laying down the law there on Moscow and this is this is brazen stuff, but it's not new for Russia really. I mean this using this substance um, which is a nerve agent that as I did some researchs today was coming across that it's more potent than VX gas, which sounds like very

very very nasty stuff indeed. But to assassinate somebody with a nerve agent on a street in the UK or on a park bench I think it's where he was found with his daughter, or to try to I know they're in there. I believe they're both in hospital and who knows what the long term damages. But this, this

is how the Russians do things. They enforce loyalty. I mean Russia is really a run as a mafia state, and there's the what's the omerta, the code of silence, right, they kind of enforced that extra territorially around the world. If you defect or that's the old, the old Soviet terminology. But if you become an informant for a foreign government of foreign intelligence service, or if the Russians believe you two have become one, they will get rid of you

in a way that's meant to show that they. Yeah, their fingerprints are all over this. It shows that the Russians were behind it. It sends the message very clearly, and that's just the way they do things. And you start to wonder, well, what are we what are we expecting? What are we expecting the response to be? You know, this March fourth nerve agent attack on serage screen Paul and his daughter Julia also put bystanders at risk and

bystander who were exposed to this poison. The poison has actually left traces at a pub and a pizza parlor that they visited, So we're not entirely clear are they've gone where they're just making sure I'm not missing this on where they were put in contact with this military

grade nerve agent. But we do know that the Russians did this understanding that we were likely to find out that it was the Russians, or not that we would find out that it was the Russians once we uh, we're looking at this, and I know people are already bringing up the previous poisons they've done. I mean there was one way back when that I think was traced to the UH. This was on a on a bridge and I think it was traced to the Bulgarian a secret police trained by the Soviets, but I could be

wrong about that. Where they used a rice and tipped pellet in an umbrella on on what was a successful assassination. This is what they do, and that was for being a dissident. I mean there was a time when the Soviets would kill you just for being a former for being a former Soviet who was telling the world the truth about what was going on behind the Iron Curtain. But now if you are a turncoat on the Kremlin anywhere in the world, they'll come after you. Now what

should people have asked me this? You know, what should we do about? Oh, by the way, Trump is is uh, it's talked about this one earlier today too. As soon as we get the fact straight, and we're gonna be speaking with the British today. We're speaking with Theresa mate today. As as soon as we get the fact straight. If we agree with them, we will condemn my show, whoever it may be. He says, we'll condemn them for a

lot of people. That's not sufficient in this case. But then I started to push and say, well, what would you like him to do? You know, it was a Russian missile with Russian back separatists that shot a plane full of AIDS researchers out of the sky and kill over a hundred people. I forget what the full number was. Remember that back a few years ago under the Obama administration and a Russian missile shot a civilian jet liner out of the sky. You know what, what was the

big retaliation we did there? Now they'll say it was an accident, but the point is the Russians were responsible for that. Um it was Russian aggression in Ukraine that even made that a problem in the first place. What would folks really like us do. Maybe they'll expel diplomats in the UK, you know, maybe they will get rid of some people that they believe are stooping around doing shady stuff for the Russians in the UK. All right, But the truth is, you know, we've got to find

more creative ways to slap back at Putin. I mean, the media is gonna complain about how, oh it's it's not strong enough and the language isn't isn't clear enough. What's that? You think Putin gives a crap what anybody in the country says about what Russia did. No, right, that's just foolishness, that's just utter nonsense. So then you have to look too, Okay, what are really the feasible responses? And the answer is I haven't seen one yet. I

don't know what we're gonna do about this. You know, the Russians played dirty and they played by a different code, and we've already got sanctions against them. So we'll keep an eye on this. I'm gonna try to think of what a what a good retaliatory response would be. And we've got our friend, uh Fred Flights join us here talking about North Korea in a minute, so stay with me. So North Korea big in the headlines in the last few days because of the upcoming Trump Kim Jong un summit.

Some people are saying this is going to be the beginning of a of a new era in US North Korean relations. Others are saying it's a trap, it's a terrible idea, it's gonna be a diplomatic ambush of sorts. Well, what's true and what's not. We've got Fred Flights with us now on the line. He is, like me, a former CIA analyst uh pred is also the off of the upcoming UH The Coming North Korean Nuclear Nightmare, which

is a book you should all check out. It's available on Amazon, and he's a senior vice president for policy and Programs at the Center for Security Policy. Fred, Great to have you back, man, Thanks for making the time. Hey Bacco to be here. All right, let's let's start before we get into the specifics of your book, although it's obviously going to tie into our conversation. What do you what do you make of the Trump offer? Just

take us to the thirty thousand foot view here. Well, I think we have to consider that President Trump has changed in the game concerning North Korea's unorthodox diplomacy, which everyone was criticizing a few years ago as trying to get US into a war. Those same people who had nothing bad to say about Obama's abysmal policies, the latter runs North Korea's nuclear missile programs to surge. Now they're

condemning the President for giving away too much. So I think the President has put the fear of God in the in the in the North Koreans and forced them to change tactics. Um, I don't think there's sincere. Frankly, I think that this is probably a ploy to divide US some other countries, to get concessions and to weaken sanctions and to buy time to continue developing its nuclear

missile programs. But at a minimum, we have a change in tactics, and the next task is to get the North Koreans to prove their sincerity and wanting to do nuclear eyes. Now, the pressure is going to continue. Do you think that it would be wise for the administration to continue to reach out to China and others say you've got to keep this going? Or could that sour the talks before they even happen. Now we have to

keep the pressure on. We're going to do that. The South Koreans has said that they're going to do that. We can't do what we've done in the past, basically let our guard down, which is what the North Koreans are after weakening sanctions. And you know, when we start pressing them for things like inspections, they've got to be

robust inspections. We can't do what the Iranians and the North Koreans have done in similar circumstances, putting a lot of the sensitive sites off limits, so the world can't determine what types of illegal nuclear activities they were engaged in. Speaking of Fred Flights, he's a formacy I analysts and author of The Coming North Korean Nuclear Nightmare. Fred, take me into the book, which is obviously very topical because

we're now faced with a the most important negotiation. I think it's fair to say of Trump's life most likely thus far, it's certainly got to make it in the top three or four. Um. But tell me about the North Korean Nuclear Nightmare as you see it. Well, The Coming North kore Nuclear Nightmare has a subtitle what Trump

must do to reverse Obama Strategic Patients. You know, I talked about how numerous presidents have mishandled North Korea and have been taken advantage of certainly Clinton was George W. Bush was taken advantage up by the North queens very badly. But nothing compares to the incredibly incompetence date eg Patient's policy of the Abom administration, which basically was a policy

to kick the North Korean situation down the road. Well, It's nuclear missile programs were growing and growing and growing under Kim Jong Owen, and that left what President Trump has often described as a mess when he came into office. We know Susan Rice said earlier in the Trump administration that we just have to accept North Korea as a nuclear power. That sort of sums up the Abom administration's approach to ran into Korea. Let's just live with it.

That's unacceptable. That's what the president said. And I think by actually putting the use of force on the table and an unorthodox farm policy really has ratchet up sanctions and sanctions compliance. As I said earlier, he has changed the game towards North Korea, and I discussed that in

the book. Now, fred I as I see it, um and there might be a third option I'm not bringing up here, so feel free to toss that in the next two But assuming the Trump talks fail, which I think and this is not a declaration from my part about whether I think it's a good idea or not. I'm actually I think that that Trump your point, shaking up the game. He's got to do something right. I mean, the pathway we're on is not sustainable. But let's say that it doesn't happen. Let's say it is. What I

believe you agree is the most likely scenario. That this is either Kim Jong installing for time, trying to take some concessions out of our hands, all the things that one would expect here from this regime based on previous behavior. It seems to me that we have two paths which after that, which would be on the one hand, learned to try and live with a fully nuclear capable North Korea that has I C b M s that can hit anywhere in the world, or some kind of a

military strike. Is there a third option? And what do you think we do about those options as I put them out there, Well, we first have to talk about what is the purpose of North Korea's nuclear and nuclear weapons and missiles. And I think with sixty nuclear weapons according to the intelligence community and I C b ms, we can't consider this a determ aren't anymore. This is an offensive force that the North plans to use eventually to force the unification of the creates on its terms

and to drive US from the region. So there is going to be a military conflict eventually. That's why if these talks don't go well, and if if if another round of sanctions and an additional diplomatic pressure fails, I argue in the book that we have to start considering the limited use of military force against North Korea, perhaps with a naval blockade and shooting down missiles, to further ratchet up the pressure, and the economic pressure should be

ratched up significantly. This is already causing pain to North create North Crean economy. I think they respect strength, and I think the use of force like that will be another step towards convincing them to negotiating good faith to give up the nuclear weapons. What would limited use of

force against North Korea conceivably look like. Well, I'm thinking of a naval blockade and shooting down missiles, basically saying to to North Korea that We're not going to tolerate UH any more missile tests, and we we may expand that to taking out missiles on the ground. The North is already afraid We're going to do that, which is why it has been launching missiles from UH near Pyongyang, near populated areas, because it fears the US might start

doing this. UM. It is intolerable that the North is beginning to develop I C. D ms and may already have them that they could use to transport nuclear weapons against the United States. And I think time is running out fred for folks at home, how should they think of the willingness of the North Korean regime to do something that we would see very unwise, but that they may feel cornered to do and UH kill a whole

lot of people in the process. Well, I mean some people have wondered whether Kim Jong un is interested in firing missiles at Guam or at the United States, may be unprovoked. I don't think that the North Korean regime has a wish UH. And I think that if there was a limited use of military force, such a shooting down missiles, the North is not going to attacks out Korea or the United States because we would flatten the

country UH. And I think eventually, if these talks fail, we may have to make it clear to them, we're simply not going to tower anymore. I CBM tests, and you know if you're going to test this on that we're going to start shooting them down. Is there a universe of really, let me looking put it this way, let me rephrase this. Is there a realistic proposition in

your mind that after this Trump summit? Now I'm not saying likely, but is it even realistic to think that there's a world in which North Korea moves towards actual de nuclearization. It's hard to imagine that that's going to happen, especially after one meeting. All we can say is that the President has forced the North Koreans to change tactics. We haven't gotten a response whether they're actually going to

attend the summit. I think they were surprise. There was a surprise as everyone else when President Trump immediately accepted this offer, And right now I think they're trying to formulate their response, and I expect they're going to have some unacceptable conditions, such as we'll get rid of our nuclear weapons if all US forces are pulled out of South Korea, which is not going to happen. Um we we we know we will see. I'd like to see the summer take place in Seoul to expose Kim Jong

lun to South Korean society and its prosperity. I don't know if that's going to change his mind, but I'd like to get him out of North Korea and maybe weaken the relationship he has with I think a number of very malign advisors. One last one for you, Fred, Just so we can set expectations, and we know the media is going to move the media overall, we'll move goalposts on this. You know, a few months ago it was Trump is taking us into nuclear war with his tweets.

Now it's Trump is rushing into diplomacy. You know, it's it's always one or the other. But so we can understand what expectations should be. What would um, let's say, a low probability but high impact diplomatic victory from the Trump side look like after this summer. What's the best that we could reasonably hope for if Trump and again, as you said, maybe it doesn't even happen, if Trump and Kim Jong n sit down, what does winning look like?

I think an outline for denuclearizing and for lower intentions is the best we could hope for I don't think it will be in agreement. And there are ways to lower tensions in North Koreans MNA theygree to, like possibly sending Chinese or Russian peacekeepers into North Korea to guarantee them. But you know, there's no chance of the US attack as it would be an attack on Russia or China. I mean, there's so creative ways that could be pursued to try to address their interests in d nuclearization if

they're sincere, but so far we don't know that. All right, Fred flights everybody, former cy I analysts book coming out, The Coming North Korean Nuclear Nightmare, available now on Amazon. Fred, it's a bailable on Amazon, and we're doing a Facebook live press conference two pm on UH Wednesday. All Right, fantastic, everybody, be sure to check it out tomorrow the Facebook live for the book. Fred, thank you so much for your time, my friend. I appreciate it. Good to be here. We're

gona roll into a quick break. We've got our three coming up, and I'm going to be talking about politics with our friend Selena Zito. This race that's just about just about over in terms of the voting or at least we're at the deadline. Um, we'll tell you what's going on, so stay with us. So there's a big election, as you may have heard, going on as we are on air. In fact, polls have just closed, I believe as we go on air here at around eight Eastern

Standard time. Selena Zito is with us now to discuss this, and she's gonna tell us what she thinks is going on here. She is a CNN contributor, a New York Post columnists, and author of the upcoming book The Great The Great Revolt, which we're hoping we'll have a great result because you're all going to buy it out in May. Selena, thank you so much for joining us. Thank you so much for having me. So we got eighteen congressional district in play here. We've talked to you. I believe about

this one specifically before Connor Lamb versus Rick Sconi. Lamb is a Democrat, Scone is the Republican. There's also a Libertarian named Drew Miller, which is so cute. I just like how the Libertarians are just they're just in there, you know, it's adorable. Anyway, what do you think is gonna happen with Lamb and CICONI here. Well, you know, Lamb has had the edge in the past two weeks. He has the most excitement generated around his candidacy. Um.

You know, for a number of unique reasons. He's not used the word Democrat in any on any of this campaign signs. Um. He I haven't noticed it on his website. Now there might it might be on there somewhere, Um, but it's not in his ads. He's essentially run independent

of his party. He put the gauntlet down early with a very effective ad saying running against Nancy Pelos name, he's pro gun, he's for the president's tariff and um in In many ways, this election is like a Republican primary with a more conservative Republican running against a more moderate Republican Connor Lean amazults are very young, he's very charming. He has a great background military form and a former federal prosecutor. Yeah, so he has what I mean, he's

the perfect Democrat. But there's a couple of things we need to think about here. But is he really a Democrat? Selena, That's what I mean. He's pro life and pro gun, which feels like, how does he sit on the same side of the I'm sorry. Yeah, when it gets to Washington, he has to be a Democrat. No, I know, but I was gonna say, how does he sit next to Nancy Pelosi with a straight face as somebody who's pro gun and pro pro life not life, Oh, I thought you. Oh oh no, No. In fact, he's not even for

the twenty week van important distinction, so he's not very important. Yeah, it's very important distinctions. I thought he was really running as essentially a stealth Republican, like the old schoolmember the gun total Democrats of your who were all about guns and grew up one of those Democrats. That's that, you know, you're born Catholic and a Democrat in Western Pennsis. So

that's that's an important distinguishing characteristic. And so yeah, because you you can't be in good stead with the modern Democrat party. I don't care what the situation is if you're you know, he was going to have to flip that position if he didn't have it already. But you're telling me he has pro choice, So there we go. Yeah. So there's a couple of unique things about this race.

First of all, this this seat no longer or exists thanks to the state Supreme Court, which throughout the old congressional districts eighteen of them, calling them unconstitutional, and which is interesting because they did that seven years after they were drawn. So I don't know how they all of a sudden became unconstitutional. Await, there was an election and Democrats won the majority in the state Supreme Court. Maybe that has something to do with it. Anyways, Um, so

this district no longer exists. Um. Second of all, he is garnering support from unions who robustly supported Trump in this district in two thousand and sixteen. But because the CONE is a pro is a right to work guy, they do not He does not UM gather their support.

So I think the deciding vote here is going to be on the union vote, the union family household votes, and that's the boat that could um triggered this in in Lamb's direction, there are thousand more registered Democrats in this UH in this district despite Trump winning it by

twenty percentage points. So this would be because because at the national level, obviously this is gonna there's there's limited data you could draw from this for how the Democrats wereun in the mid terms, and this is where all the old cliches about all congressional races are actually local

and all that stuff applies. But here's Selena. You would have someone who is running essentially as a prototype of what the Democrats could do in other places to try to win back the voters that Trump got to beat Hillary in those key states like Pennsylvania, right exactly, And and and um, Lamb faces his own challenges if he wins this evening. He is now thrust into a different

congressional district where he will face aggressive primary challengers. He has not faced the primary before, and as we all understand, including progressives, that is where the energy is. So you have to wonder are they willing to go with the guy that's a proven winner or do they want to go in with more with their passions UM on the resistance. Um. He also has never sorted. He has never once criticized President Trump during this entire election, So what will happen

to him in a primary? So those are those are the things going forward. But I think the lesson if if Lamb wins, I think the lesson is that Republicans need a better message outside of Nancy Pelosi is bad because they need to talk about their accomplishments and not be so afraid of talking about Trump's accublishments. The Republican Party has changed. It's more populist in nature, and they need to to feed the beast in populism, and populism

isn't just about anger, It's also about aspiration. Now. I talk a lot about that in my book The Great Revolt, about understanding who these new coalitions are. We're speaking to Selena Zito. She has seen, a contributor to New York Post Commist, author of the upcoming opus The Great Revolt,

which she just mentioned. Selena, what are some of the lessons and takeaways from your book that are applicable to this race right now in Pennsylvania because Pennsylvania is obviously one of those key states that everyone was like, whoa hold on a second Trump can and yes, in fact he did win that state. Yeah. I mean, elections are about you know, gas pedal, brake pedal, right, and typically in midterms, voters want to put the brake pedal on

the current party in power. So what they need to do is understand that they need to run again, as I just said, on a more populist, more aspirational um campaign and less about the negatives on Nancy Pelosi. Talk about what you've accomplished, talk about what you want to accomplish, sort of like the way that Ronald Reagan and and Trump, even though people don't always get that, how he made people want to be part of something bigger than themselves.

And I think that's the key. I don't think people are hungry for a negative. I mean they should be reminded that if they if if the Republicans lose, Nancy Pelosi will be the House Speaker by all intents and purposes. But they also need to be reminded that they have to continue to go forward and here are the reasons. And that message was very missing in this special election.

Let's assume for a second that these results Selena, which are going to be coming in the earliest results should be coming in shortly here, and we'll be looking at them when we're all on air. But let's assume for the purpose of our conversation that Connor Lamb does in fact win this thing. What is the democra What does that do for the Democrat message going into the midterms. Do you think it affects it at a national level?

You think they'll take this as a lesson learned or is it just going to be a wait and see until we get much closer. I mean, if there's a such a one Democratic strategist for my story this evening, and you know, I said, you know, what, what do you think? And he said, well, if we're starts, we're smart. Uh. Connor Lambs will win in primaries. But we don't control primaries. The people do. And it has been proven that the more active, the more engage, the more excited Democrats are

are the ones that are more progressive. We don't know yet if they'll be willing to compromise some of their um, their their agenda to win. I mean, Ron Emmanuel was incredibly good and make sure that happened in two thousand and six. And you've got moderate Democrats elected in primaries in in swing states like western Pennsylvania and Michigan and

Ohio and Wisconsin and Iowa. Uh, they've got to go through that process and they have to convince their voters in those kinds of districts that you want a Conner Lamb. It is I'm unsure if if the most um, the hard left progressive types are not going to be excited about the national level DNC efforts to get out the vote that include, yeah, we like guys who are kind of pro n r A. In some places, you might have some progressive activists that even you know, kick up

some dust about this one. You get the Bernie Brows and sisters may not like that too much going into the mid terms. And and the intellectual liberals too, you know, they're also you know, incredibly um swept up in this resistance UH movement, and resistance is not aspirational. Both parties

need to understand. To morder to capture the imagination of their voters, it has to include this sweeping motion that you are going to be part of something bigger than yourself, and you are going to be part of something with other people that's in our d n A. UM Trump was very good at that. We'll see if they they're able to do that in the mid terms. Selena Zero everybody, author of the upcoming The Great Revolt. You can pre order now on Amazon and I recommend you all do.

I'll be reading it. I hope you do as well. Selena, thank you so much for joining Always appreciate when you make the time. Thank you so much for having me team we're going to roll into a break. We'll have any updates for you on the Pennsylvania Pennsylvania election as

we can, and we'll be right back. The Governator Schwarzenegger, who I have so much fondness for because of his contributions to the pantheon of action movie greatness and his lines like I'll be back get through the chopp all of it amazing, really a major part of my childhood, which perhaps explains a lot of how I view the world.

Considering that a guy who was benching over four hundred pounds was clearly taking performance in dancing drugs and played Conan the barbarian all too well was like my hero growing up. But anyway, I give Schwarzenegger a a wide berth. You know, that guy's obviously made some mistakes. You know, he's done some things that were not good, both as a politician and as a as a private person. No need for me to get into that, but you know, really really arnold some of the stuff that we found

out in recent years was was a little tough. I'm glad, I'm I'm glad I'm an older man that I can see that we all make mistakes, and maybe I shouldn't judge too much, although I guess I'm on a radio show and I have to judge that. All said Arnold Schwarzenegger is still waxing philosophical on policy and this is just going too far. He was at south By Southwest, which has become this major media music thing in Austin. I've I've never been, but I'd like to go at

some point. I know it's going on Austin right now. Next year, maybe I'll use it as another excuse to go visit Austin. But he's down there and he says, and he said this on Politico's Off Message podcast, which I had never even heard of before. And yeah, there's that that quote. Uh. He wants to take on oil companies for quote knowingly killing people all over the world.

He right, He said that this is no different from the smoking issue that tobacco industry new for years and years and decades that smoking would kill people, would harm people, and create cancer, and we're hiding that fact the from people and denied it. Then eventually they were taking a court and had to pay hundreds of millions of dollars

because of that. The oil companies knew from nine on they did their own study that there would be global warming happening because of fossil fuels, and on top of that it would be risky for people's lives. He says that this is like climate change man, this is you know, he's hosting a major environmental conference in May and Vienna. This is just all crap. This is what people do now when they want to burnish their brands because climate

change gets you. So it gets you a very loyal, very globalist, internationalist audience that it gets big donor supporters to your side, and the people who don't believe in this ignore it like a religion that they don't really care about for the most part until they make us deal with it. So that's why I just see this as this is pandering. I mean, Schwartzenegger doesn't need to do this um by the way he says, quote, we're going to go after them and we're going to be

in there like an Alabama tick. Because to me, it's absolutely irresponsible to know that your product is killing people and not have a warning label on it, like tobacco. Every gas station on it, every car should have a warning label on it. Every product that has fossil fuel should have a warning label on it. This is the dumbest thing that the governator has said in a long time. I don't know, maybe ever as a total aside here, but one that I could not help but point out.

His phrase here, we're going to be in there like an Alabama tic is all too close to what Jesse the Body Ventura says in the movie Predator when referring to a pill box of enemy he shoulds they're dugging there like an Alabama tic. I don't think that's an accident, friends, I think Schwarzenegger now in his political podcast, is dropping some not so well known action movie lines because that's

just how he rolls. That's kind of a strange phrase for a guy from Austria, from the Austrian Alps to use. You know what I'm saying. It's not like he just threw in a yodel here. He's saying Alabama tick, not from Alabamare to the California. What is this guy? I'm telling if you go back, we could even find it. Maybe for tomorrow. There's a Jesse the Body venture a line where he says that in in Predators, in like an Alabama chick. You go um anyway, This is craziness.

This is, though, a an issue that we're gonna have to deal with because people think that there's real money involved as well as real power. And if it is their belief that they will be able to sue for hundreds of millions, maybe billions of dollars, they view that as progress for social justice, even if it doesn't slow down the global warming stuff. Right, So you gotta remember that even if they're wrong on the science, they think

they're right in principle. Even if the global warming alarmists believe that they're not going to be able to prove the things that they say. If it isn't true, but it rings true to borrow from that recent Trump biography, guy Uh, then they feel like it's good enough because they're gonna use this money for development the third world. This becomes a massive wealth transfer scheme from you and me to other parts of the world. And it's also

a form of paying for indulgences. Back in the old Catholic Church in the medieval period, you know, you could pay for your sins. This is that on a global scale. This is paying money as an apology for how wealthy and prosperous America has become and trying to prop up the rest of the world with it, but it's ultimately doomed by think too to failure. Attorneys general from various states, you know, Schneiderman and others. Schneiderman's here in New York.

They thought about doing this. This is a movement that's going to continue on it. It's gonna be like reparations movement, the reparations movement in this country. He's also been talked about for decades. And it'll get enough steam that you actually have to pay attention to it because it will become a legal issue, and then it'll get pushed back and then we'll get steam. But the governorator is really upsetting me here. Why don't you want to global it's

climate chance? Like it's really hard, you know, it's it's much better if you have like the Conan O'Brien show the face and you do the mouth, because really that doesn't sound it's a comment, you know, you know, it doesn't really sound like Schwarzeneger at all, but because you can see his face, it sounds a little like it. I gotta work on with Schwarzenegger because he's not really German in the and it's not like yeah, coutin talk. He's not in that realm at all. He's got it.

He's really got his own accent. He's really uh almost like speaking his own his own version of English in a way that Schwarzenegger style. It's disappointing though, to see this with the governor. Anyway, we're gonna get into some roll call coming up here in in just a few minutes if you want to call in eight four or four nine to eight five eight Buck. Also, you can follow me on Twitter at buck Sexton. We'll be right back. He's holding the line for America. Buck Sexton his back.

But Lettons are a virus in the Democratic Party. You have to move on if this is our messaging. Thought that I thought that it was time for them to back off right now. Right now. I don't think they're helping the party right message. There's one things are getting testy on the view over this one. You know, the old pro Hillary guard. They don't want to let it go. You know, I'm just gonna say it. It's like boomers

with the rolling Stones. It's just getting weird now. They're they're they're they're no longer like rock stars that should be marrying twenty two year olds and doing all the stuff they're doing. I'm just saying it's getting weird now. You know. People are like, oh, the Stones and they're still going strong, and like, there's only so far nostalgic can really get you, folks, all right, And the same

thing true with the Clintons. There's a whole media group of boomers out there in particular, who just the Clintons. They associate the Clintons with the America that they know, and and Hillary and Bill were gonna make it all better and the big mean Republicans and Kent Star came out for them, and they just can't let it go.

That's why Hillary can wander around just being terrible and saying all kinds of really unhelpful things, and I mean unhelpful from the perspective of being a Democrat, right, I mean unhelpful for everyone. Republicans don't want to hear it, and Democrats don't need to hear it, because all it is is her whining about what happened. Here's what she's been saying. His whole campaign make America Rate Again was

looking backwards. You know, you didn't like black people getting right you don't like women, you know, getting jobs, you don't want it. And you know see that Indian Americans succeeding more than you are. Whatever your problem is, I'm gonna solve that. So it was a symptom, but it was also a cause. I mean, Hillary is amazing, you know,

she she can't even she she can't help herself. But say that the reason that she couldn't win over the sixty three million people who voted against her in the last election was because they're a bunch of racist, redneck hillbilly's. That's pretty much. It doesn't really take much on our own plate by way of responsibility for any of this doesn't really have anything to to add into the national conversation other than just to say that, you know, Trump

is a racist. But I'm actually hopeful, and I will say this, I am hopeful that Hillary is not going to go anywhere for quite a while. I would like her to be running around and used as a surrogate for the Democrat Party as much as much as is possible and as much as is feasible. I would like to see Hillary Clinton running around and saying, you know, wow, Trump is race instant, just saying all kinds of very

derogatory and disrespectful things about the electorate. Remember we were just talking before to Selina Zeno about this Democrats play in some of these states is going to have to be going more moderate Democrats are gonna have to run Lamb like for Connor Lamb, not like mad Lamb like

candidates in some of these other congressional races. And that's gonna mean that they need to clear the slate as much as possible of just the the detroitus of political careers passed, you know, the the leftovers of the Clintons. But it's just funny to see it because it's like the media doesn't get the message. You know, they still want to have Clinton access, and they still want to have the favors of being in tight with the Clintons and the fact that that's no longer something that's good

for the left of the Democrat Party. The message is getting them pretty slowly. They haven't yet totally given up on it. What's gonna end up happening though, and this this takes me to the discussion we had last week about Netflix. What's going to happen is that when they start rolling out Obama as overall Democrat, you know, stand in and Hillary as everything can say are we just need we need more Obama and less Hillary. And I think that that's going to be the way that this

all plays out. It will only be when the Democrats have to stare down a mid term victory for Trump that they finally show a real willingness us to back off of the Hillary express. I don't think there are some members of the media, and I mean big ones, I mean big names, who think Hillary would be a good idea. They think that's the only way to set

this right. I mean they are Their insanity over how much they hate Trump is only matched by the delusion of how much they love Hillary and how viable they think she is politically. All Right, I just wanted to throw that in there for a second. We're gonna get into some roll call here, so stay with me. Well, it's been quite a day here in the Freedom hond I hope you've enjoyed what we've dived into together. I

always said doved into, but I think that's wrong. It's gonna be dived And since I'm a have diven have been dived to know something like that. Dove, Yeah, we dove into together. I know, I'm just it's late in the show, John, I'm tired. Uh. But speaking of which, I'm just kidding. Thank you for the assistant. Speaking of which, it's time for roll call. Hit it, Team Buck. It's time for roll call. I like women the base drops. That's of all you home. We're supposed to be like

oh C. J. Buck in the Hound. Alright, better stop right now before you all turn this off. Okay, if you want to be a part of roll call, you can send an email to official Team Buck at gmail dot com or Facebook dot com slash buck sexon. So with that's my friends. Here we have Chuck, who is writing to Buck. He says the following, I heard your thoughts on Obama as Netflix show, very concise but really no surprise. How is that any different than his presidency? Well, Chuck, oh,

he's not president anymore. But you're right. He is definitely, or was and still is a media darling. And you make a fair point, sir, So thank you very much for that. James. Next up in our roll call mailbox, he writes, Hi, Buck love the piece on the tariff, But why hasn't anyone mentioned that having a tariff in place might make companies wanting to buy, sell, and trade with the USA come to the USA and set up

shop here and provide jobs and participate in our economy. James, very interesting point, right, If there is an advantage to producing equipment, material, whatever may be here in the US of A, then couldn't we have reverse the reverse of offshoring. Couldn't we have the reverse of sending our jobs overseas overseas sends their jobs here. At some level, it's at

least feasible, It's possible. One of the big problems in all this is the wage scale and wage expectations in this country versus some of the other places where a lot of production happens. I know I know a bit about this because Ms Molly works for a very large retailer, and a lot of the places where different clothing brands get their stuff made are all of the world in places where the labor is a lot cheaper. So that's something else, and we're never going to be able to

match that list unskilled labor. When you look at the different wage rates in countries based on unskilled labor, you know, that's when I think you get into a problem with expecting we're gonna move a lot of the jobs here because people expect and need to be paid. We're here. Um, okay, next up we have, Jim. I was listening to your podcast about name changes and you mentioned Obama's name change. I worked for a missionary outfit and talked to a

man who brought two Muslims to faith in christ. He said he gave them, as they requested, new Christian names and changed them before they were baptized into the faith. I understand this is common among Muslims who convert. Uh didn't you say Obama changed his name from a Christian name to a Muslim one. Ps. My wife and I retired and listen to you often now as I brought her to the team, But instead of the usual saying good night, I'll see in the morning after all call,

she has started saying good night. Shields High. You're pretty good with your words. So is there some way you could sort of uninstall what you've done? If not, don't sweat it, Shields High, Jim, thank you for the kind

note as to Obama. He know he was born. Uh, he was in fact born based on all the record everything else we've seen Barack Obama, but he was went by Barry, so he went by that as his preferred name for a long time, and during the period when he was living in Indonesia he went by the surname of I believe the man that his why that his mom was dating at the time, Satoro or living with the time, whatever the case may be. So Obama's biography is not top of mind these days. So there you

have it. Next up here, where did it go? Oh? Yes, this is from Tricia, She writes. I so do appreciate your calm discussions. Interesting you should mention, but at the time of Trump's button comment, there was an uprising by hungry and thirsty people. M hmm what he said some people. I'm not sure where we're going here. Liberals need a

dose of self control. Gun control gives us dead children, and birth control gives us Okay, what guess the tragedy and murder depends which side of the womb you're on, Tricia. Tricia carried a lot of territory in this email, so I kind of gave you the abbreviated version. Thank you, Tricia. Maybe I should start reading these before I go on there. Although I kind of like the off the cuff nature

of of having to address them as we go. Occasionally I have to bleep out some words in my mind, and I've gotten good enough that I feel like very few people could tell that that's what I'm doing. This is from Mary, he writes. I'm a podcast listener. I have been listening since mid seen, having seen you on Fox, read you on Twitter, and heard you fill in Once upon a Time for Rush Limbaugh. Your programs are excellent.

The history podcasts are outstanding. Both are most informative and enlightening. Yes, I would even pay to get the Shields High podcasts. One thought about Kim Jong uns interest in meeting President Trump. I think Kim's buying time and creating a distraction while they continue to supply Syria. Your mentioned of Massa's recent chemical attack on the Damascus Damascus suburbs helps me come to that conclusion. Your thoughts. Have a wonderful weekend and

a blessed week Mary. Well, Mary, thank you so much, very kind of you. I do think that Kim is most likely trying to buy time, but I'm not sure he will be able to buy time in the way that he is hoping because of the strength of the sanctions that President Trump has put forth on North Korea. They are in a tougher spot than they have ever been in before economically, or at least since the famine in the nineties. And I think that this this could be a different outcome. I am hopeful that it could

be a different outcome. Um next up here? Uh, John, you're right, Hey Buck. I've been listening to your show for about a year. Oh sorry, this is from the Facebook inbox and if you want to write to us there Facebook dot com slash buck Sexton Jonens Hey Buck, I've been listening to your show for about a year. You do a great job. But I had a thought that no one is seeming to consider. What if the meeting with Kim Jong own is just a trap, an

assassination attempt Like the guy in Star Wars. It's a trap. You know what I'm talking about, what he's going on, It's a trap. What if the meeting with Kim Jong un is a trap? An assassination attempts set up by the North Korean leader and maybe Democrats. Clinton accolytes to me, it doesn't seem far fetch when it's a guy who assassinates his own family and people who are willing to make deals with enemy's just a thought. Great show shields high, John.

I wouldn't worry about our our president in this situation and this uh uh possible or likely planned meeting with Kim Jong un. It'll be in a mutually agreed upon place, and the consequences for North Korea of any such effort like you are describing here would be severe, to say the least, and it would not get the anywhere except on the wrong side of an American broadside, and perhaps a whole lot more than that. So I don't I don't.

I don't think that's a concern. You need to have secret services, got it uh squared away, and and I know some secret service folks, and they're very very good at what they do. And I don't worry about the president sitting down with another head of state. Uh. Here we go, Karen, rites congratulations on scoring Jeff Sessions. Your hard work is paying off well. Thank you, Karen, and I the folks Nana d o J actually really thought it was a good interview with Mr Sessions. That's always nice.

You know, the people that work for the boss reach out to me. They're like, hey, I thought that went really well. That, you know, the session's interview, so I'm glad we'll have him back at some point. You know, I can make some room for the Attorney general here on my radio show, you know, time to time, I feel like he's got some important stuff to say. He is the most uh important law enforcement official in the country.

You're the highest law enforcement official in the country. So you know, I make room for for excellent guests as well as guests are at the cabinet level and above, you know, cabinet level and above, we can fit you in here. On the Buck Sexton Show, we try to avoid deputy under assistant secretary for who gives a crap, you know what I mean. So that's that's an unwritten policy here on the show. Don next up here, he writes,

Buck love your show. I usually agree with most of your points, but comparing Netflix's Ozark to Breaking Bad is like calling both Bill ny and Carl Sagan scientists. They were both engaging, but one was incredibly written and believably realistic, while the other, though sinfully entertaining, was rather poorly written and it was also ridiculously impossible. I'm sure you can

tell which I preferred. As always, I loved hearing your take, but you were out to lunch on this one and I had to call you and call you out on it. Keep up the great work. You're still the best, Don Don I'm not really going to defend myself on this one too much because I think or I was trying to say, at least that the genre is similar, so if you liked one, you'll like the other. I wasn't trying to say that they are almost equivalent in terms

of greatness, right. It's sort of like if I were talking to you and I said, hey, I think you will like uh, porter House if you've never had meat before, and I'm like, I think you would like a Porterhouse steak, and oh, by the way, if you like by the let's let's take this back for a second, Ribby, which is better than Porterhouse. We take this back for a second. And then before that, I said, you hold on, wait, if you like Ribby, you'll also probably like flank steak.

I'm not saying they're the same. I'm just saying in my own way, as being the human Pandora that I am, where I try to say, if you like this, you like this, I think they're similar enough that all said, I think your analysis is correct. Ozark is uh not nearly as plausible, not nearly as well written, not as good a show. But you are comparing a Netflix show that's gotten very little pressed to what is arguably one of the greatest, if not the greatest, scripted television dramas

of all time. So you know we've gotta keep it, keep it here. But a fair a fair point made from Don. I've got a lot of other movie recommendations in the inbox, but I will have to wait and hold those for next time because I am running out of time here. Please do if you're listening to this show, uh, spread the podcast around. We love seeing the podcast numbers grow. And also do indeed of check out Facebook dot com slash box sex and follow me there and we'll be

sharing more information there. So that's going to close out the Freedom Hunt for today. We will have much more for you tomorrow every day this week, as we always do. Until then, my friends, no matter what mayhem may find you, shields high,