Trump Pulls Back Iran Strike

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I thought about it for a second. I said, you know what, They shot down an unmanned drone plane whatever you want to call it. And here we are sitting with one hundred and fifty and dead people that would have taken place probably within a half an hour after I said go ahead. And I didn't like it. I didn't think it was. I didn't think it was proportionate. Welcome to the buck Sex and show everybody very close

to the edge there. Last night, as President Trump was just on the brink of giving an order for retaliatory strikes against targets in Iran. And here's what the President tweeted about this. He said, on Monday, they shot down an unmanned aerial drone flying the international waters. We were cocked and loaded to retaliate last night on three different sites. When I asked how many will die? One hundred and fifty people, sir was the answer from a general ten

minutes before the strike. I stopped it not proportionate to shooting down and on Mandrone, I'm in no hurry. Our military is rebuilt, new and ready to go, by far the best in the world. Sanctions are biting and more were added last night. Iran can never have nuclear weapons, not against the USA and not against the world. This is the right decision as I see it. I think the President made the right move. I think that we are already squeezing the Iranians economically thanks to this administration.

The Iranians are flailing, and the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps and the Guardian Council and the Mullahs. They're looking for some way to unite the people such as they can be behind the regime. Remember, if we create a narrative of the Iranian people lined up against the United States because we're coming after them, that is to the benefit

of the Mullahs. If we were to blow up sites and there were civilian casualties, and it's not clear how many casualtis exactly there would be, and remember casualty estimate, it's just that it's an estimate. It could have been more, could have been less. And President made the right move in my opinion, It is fascinating to see the way that many people are now responding to this. But I'll get into that and then the media in just a little bit. Here, the president understands the following his base

Trump voters. We did not give our votes to this guy because we wanted him to go and invade another country the Middle East. That's just that's just the truth. The Trump vote, the Trump movement wasn't about yet another Mid East war. It was about you don't have to have me tell you, but it was about making America great again through a hugely growing and excellent economy, about a strong southern border, about an end to overregulation, about put an end into political correctness, and an end to

all the apologizing for America all the time. And there were some very clear agenda items for President Trump fixing our healthcare, which they have we have not done that. We got a little better on prescription drug prices, but we are lagging right now on a better healthcare system. That is That is also just the truth. Now you get into this back and forth, and I remember this. I remember the debates from when I was in college of the Iraq war. I remember the debates about esc

eating and the surge in Iraq. When I was at the CIA's office on Iraq. I remember the decision to escalate, or the early decision to do at a review in the escalation in Afghanistan. I was working in the CIA's Afghanistan desk when that happened. And these things do tend to have a momentum of their own. So while it's not it's not correct to say that the different the

options here are do nothing or all out war. Caution in this process is necessary, and I just I deeply wish for the American people, I wish for all of us that we don't have another war in some other country where we are sending just such amazing people, you know, family members of ours, loved ones, brothers, sisters, fathers, mothers, sending them over there, husbands and spouses that husbands, wives sending them over there, and generally for a population that

will be at least somewhat, if not entirely, ungrateful for the effort. By the way, that's certainly that was the case in Afghanistan, and certainly in the case in Iraq too. There are a lot of people that don't really want us in those countries. Maybe they want us to stay because they know the other guys are worse, But there's not a lot of gratitude. You haven't noticed a flowering of love for America across the Middle East after these wars we fought there. We did depose a tyrant in

Saddam Hussein. Do you feel like the Arab street has decided that we are we are the good guys now? No? If anything, I think that the anti American forces point to US actions in Iraq and Afghanistan and elsewhere as evidence of US as a grave threat to the world. We are a threat to world peace. Europeans think this, South Americans think this. Countries that should be ideologically and dare I even say spiritually aligned with US as nation states.

They think that what we've done in many of these conflict was foolish at best and you know, tyrannical at worst. So no more wars in the Middle East for US. I mean, if if we have to blow the you know what out of the Mullahs by bombing some sights here or there, if that's the if it goes to that level, of course, I think that's that can be the proper decision for President Trump right now, but we're

not there yet. The Iranians are claiming that they could have shot down a manned US aircraft that was nearby and instead shot down an unmanned aerial drone. Now, okay, the Iranians are saying this because they want to see them like they're they're being reasonable in this process. But keep in mind, if they had shot down a plane with thirty five US soldiers, there would be strikes and retaliation that would kill hundreds, probably thousands of Iranians, and

I would support that you kill our people. We have to make a very strong we have to have a very strong response. They did not kill our people. It is significant that they did not kill our people, and we always want to draw that line. So everybody going forward knows, you mess with us, you mess with our stuff, We're gonna get mad. We're gonna respond. You kill our people, we are going to rain hell fire down on you,

in some cases literally hell fire missiles. So I think the Trump Administration's approach right now is the right one. We don't have to rush on this. The Iranians are the ones with the Our economy is doing great, are military huge. The Iranians are the ones that are being choked economically. The Iranians the ones that are running out of options here. Their threat to shut down the straight of hor moves that would that would agitate every major

power in the world. They'd have the Chinese turn on the Russians turn on them, Everybody would turn on them, because everybody's access to to that oil in the global market matters to them. Every major power matters to them. So we wouldn't be alone in that process. The Iranians did their worst, and their worst would be terrorist attacks through proxies and also through cells. The Iranian terror cells spread all over the world. There would be ground fired

missiles at oil tankers, at other ships. I mean they would be able to hit them and destroy them and cause ecological disasters. I mean, the Iranians could could do those things, and there's not all that much we'd be able to do to stop them from doing all of that in the meantime, but it would it would then mean that we would lay waste to the Iranian state of the Iranian military. Ah. But see this is where things start to get more complicated. If we have to

respond with overwhelming force to a major Iranian provocation. That overwhelming force is when we have to be very careful about, well, what comes next? What are we responsible for If we knock out the power grid in Iran, if we take out their major military sites and the government is toppled, what happens then who's in charge? What is our obligation to the the Iranian state? And then you start to feel

like you're having Iraq and Afghanistan desja vou. We didn't do into Afghanistan with the mission of we're going to rebuild this country and now it was the Northern Alliance. We helped them out kick out, the kick out al Qaida, and the Taliban, and I supposed to be all right, good luck, guys, thanks for your help, here's your country back, see you later. That's not what happened. We've been there now for nineteen years. And then Iraq. I don't have

time to relitigate the Iraq War right now. But was that a good move? I originally was convinced that it probably was the right move because I thought the outcome would be very, very different from what it was. I worked on the Iraq desk at the CIA. I could tell you there were times when I wasn't sure. Just in my own hat, I figured, I'm not even I don't even know if we're gonna be able to stay if we want to stay. Casualties are mount think so high.

Insurgency was so out of control, and there were real concerns in the US government that we were going to have to just pull out and say, all right, well this place is a mess, but you know it's on you guys, have go to it. We're not dealing with this anymore. I just desperately hope that we've learned those lessons. I don't want people, I don't want our people over there trying to fix someone else's country for them anymore. We've done that, and we had a lot that we

took casualties. We spent a ton of our treasure. It's your tax dollars, my tax dollars. Really, more so our children and their children's tax dollars. Try to turn the lights on in Cobble, try to have clean water in Bakuba for what? For whom? People that want to tell us to leave their country, that we shouldn't have been there in the first place, that we're occupiers, Why should we put ourselves in this position? Again, I agree with Trump on this. I think his mindset is correct. Trump

is not a foreign details guy. I would never pretend that he is. But on the big issues of what needs to be done, what needs to be confronted, or where we need to show strength, where we need to show you a closed hand or an open hand, he gets it. Gets it a lot more than the foreign policy group thinkers out there who believe that whatever was done in the past by other people, that people said we're smart, has to continue to be done even if the results are bad. We don't want a war with

the Row. Nobody wants a war with they're on. Really, I think maybe that might be a little too broad of a statement. In this country, I think there is unfortunately an element that really believes so strongly in regime change that they would, if they had their way, push us into a major war. And iron I think that that exists. Unfortunately, there is an element in this country, in the power structure, in the government that really would like to see a major US and they're convinced I'm

sure that, oh no, this time will be different. This time, welcome us into the streets and they'll have, you know, garlands of flowers for our soldiers, and everything will be great. And I'm here to tell you seeing this twice from the from the perspective that I could in Iraq and Afghanistan, it would be even worse. It would be even worse.

Iron is a much bigger country than Iraq. For example, the just the sheer logistical challenges of dealing with the population of seventy or seventy five million instead of twenty to twenty five million would be there's just no way we want to do this. A lot of Democrats right now running around using this as an opportunity to demagogue. I do wish that on an issue like this, after we've seen what we've seen the Middle East, after we've had so many years of heartbreak and casualties and taking

losses that we just all could put aside. But the poll say for a moment and do what it's best for the country. But I think that Democrats are so deranged on this, and they're so deranged with Trump hatred, that they will find a way to criticize. Just watch this weekend. They'll criticize the President of the United States for being thoughtful, for being prudent, and for taking the path of less violence in this one instance with Iran, to see if there's a better way forward. They will

criticize him for it. Generally devish anti US intervention Democrats, You'll hear them criticizing him for this, because doing the right thing in Iran, even if it's a question of whether our troops will be in a harm's way and whether lives will be lost. Let's be honest, I've a hundred fifty Irani lives. A lot of people would die doing the right thing by our country and doing the

right thing when it comes to human life. Unfortunately, for a lot of the left in this country, those are secondary considerations to bashing Trump and that's what you're seeing with their analysis of this Iran decision. That's how they will be talking about it. We have more coming up. Stay with me. Leron has been gradually escalating their nuclear blackmail threats. Remember on May eighth, they threatened to enrich uranium to weapons grade levels if they didn't receive sanctions

relief in two months. That deadline is July eighth. And as we all know, they've been launching connectic attacks in the Persian Gulf, and so I would expect Iran to continue to launch increasingly escalatory attacks if we don't respond, that's the risk that we would run. But again, we don't want to draw ourselves into run into a war that neither of us wants. Launts it, nobody wants it. It's just a question of how we avoid it. I keep saying nobody, I should say almost nobody. Well, what

is a that's you know Daniel Hoffman. He's a guy who is pretty He's pretty good on the national security side. I enjoy I've done segments with him. He's a smart dude. A lot of people go on TV have no idea what they're talking about with this Dolph Hoffman's not one of them. He's solid and it's got a real background and it shows on TV. But he spoke also about what a a attack would be like in terms of one that is commensurate with what has happened to us,

or what a response should look like. Here's what he said in play for We haven't struck yet, but we absolutely can. If we were not to strike, that would also deliver a very serious message, I think, to Iran and then other enemies we face around the world. As far as the strike that we might be looking at targets, missile sites, radar batteries which it runs IRGC, their Revolutionary Guard Corps, which launched the attack on our r Q four drone. Would we would hit those those sites as

a proportional response. I think that would probably make the most sense. It doesn't mean that Iran wouldn't themselves then retaliate, but that would be a flexible proportional response. Flexible proportional response. This really does remind me of the I think it's

one of the first episodes of the show. Oh no, it's actually from the Not it's not from that, it's from Don't They have a discussion about this in the American President with Michael Douglas where it's about an airstrike and he doesn't want to do what it's going to kill some guys a night janitor? Or am I thinking of President Bartlett from what's it called? What's that show called the you know West Wing, Westwick? That's that's where President Bartlett is and he says that he doesn't want

to just take their lunch money or something. Anyway, Look, I think the President made the right move. That's the bottom line. We'll see what ends up happening here from the Iranians. We'll see if the Iranian response is going to go even further. It's very possible. Although do they really want to play chicken with Trump? I you know, there are a lot of things you can say about this guy. I don't think getting into a test of will with him, a test of resolve for the iranience

of the mulas is a good idea. I don't believe anybody should think that that's a good idea. That's why Trump's willingness to Here's how I see it, Trump stepping back and saying, you know what, I'm not going to throw a punch. You know, you push me, but I'm not gonna throw a punch yet. I think that's also his way of saying, all right, Ran, if you push me again, it's not just going to be a punch, it's going to be a lights out fly kick to the face. That's what I see Trump doing here, which

you know, I hope it doesn't come to that. But so far he's been good on this. The Democrats are going to freak out, though, and say he's bad just because he's Trump. We'll get into that in a moment. Stay with me. I think the likelihood that this is a mistake is remote. Iran knows how to provoke the rest of the world. They know how to provoke us. They are malevolent actors in that region. It is absolutely the case, and it's the reason why I so much

regret how the President is approaching this recklessly. I mean, he should never have torn up the Iran Deeal to begin with, which was the nuclear agreement that President Obama reached with Iran. It's now we're contending with both his blowing up the Iran deal one day, threatening to strike Iran the next day, saying that he doesn't want regime change in a run, He's sending mix signals. Michael Bennett. Who the heck is that guy? Most of you're probably asking,

He's a Colorado senator, who is all about? Michael Bennett twenty twenty. This guy thinks he's running for president. He is as boring and milktoast and who is this guy? As you're going to find the American politics today. But he is doing the usual dance here. It's the one the Democrats can be expected to do anytime the issue of Iran comes up and the president's approach in national security, and that is to say that Oh Obama had it right,

that the Obama deal was a good deal. There are so many ways that is not true, but the one that I think is the is the biggest. What should have been deal breaker is that there the deal was going to end at some point and then you just have to have a whole nother deal, And you would have had to have a whole another deal. Within Iran that was a lot richer and a lot more militarily advanced,

working on its ballistic missiles. One of that in the treaty, spreading its proxy armies around the Middle East, bolstering them, getting them to be stronger. None of that covered in the treaty. It was really just to kick the can down the roade maneuver. It was like, all right, Iran, we're gonna let you get access to the international financial financial system, let you get a lot wealthier, but in return, you're gonna have to wait before you start testing news.

You're gonna have to wait before you start doing some of these things. And that's just it's just it's not good folks. It was not a good deal. It really wasn't. I mean, and now it's we can look back at it perhaps a little more clarity, because it wasn't. It's not Obama who's in office, and we're all caught up and how the media was always telling us how Obama was some super genius move on foreign policy. His administration was a disaster, and why would that be surprising. Look

at the people that he had in charge. You know, say what you will about Mike Pompeo, and I think he's a really impressive guy. He's a serious person. Though, say what you will about John Bolton, and I will say a lot, probably in the weeks ahead, I disagree with them on some of his approaches. He's a serious person. Hillary Clinton a secretary of state. What the heck does she know about anything? Why would we have expected that she would have been able to produce better foreign policy results?

John Carry, John Carry's a loser. Mary's rich, ladies. You think you think he's going to be a great secretary of state based on what? What does he know about any of this? He's just trying to figure out what you know when tea time is in the Nantucket golf course or when he can hop on one of those windsurfers. Again, he's not an impressive person. It's not a person that's going to be able to outstrategize and outthink our enemies and inspire our allies to rally to us on tough issues.

Anyone can handle, this is the thing. Anyone can handle the easy stuff. And this is what's so important about when you when you look at foreign policy and different administrations, and you look at the negotiations that are going on. I mean, anybody can sign their name to a climate change agreement that has no enforcement mechanisms, doesn't mean anything really in the long run. That's self and that's self enforced, and that's self paced, and who cares anyone can sign that.

I feel like they're a big deal. Some of the things that the Trump administration has taken on. This is hard. Putting tariffs on China and saying that the Chinese don't change their behavior, they're gonna face even more tariffs. And that's gonna have you reciprocation on our side. They're gonna hurt us economically to the degree they can. That's hard. That's a tough call to make. And it's on these more difficult decisions that you see this democrats, I think

failing and failing and failing over and over again. Look where Probablyicans have failed on some of these stuff too. Ultimately, foreign policy does often boil down to the less bad, the less bad. Sorry, guys, my voice just keeps I have such a bad cold. My voice just keeps breaking. So I can't do anything about that. The less bad option. I've been drinking tea, I've been trying to take throat lows and just whatever. I mean, it's just a miserable cold.

And I don't know what, you know, I don't know what person's drink. I might have borrowed or something, but you know, somehow I got a cold here. That's right, That's that's the only way it would have happened barring their drink. Calm down. Uh, let's see what else we have here on Bennett. Oh no, no no, forget about Bennett from him and so you know he's he doesn't like what what Trump is doing because the Iran deal was

so good that Obama, which is just stupid. Then you also have just in time to make this a totally obviously partisan maneuver that has nothing to do really with anything you get. Oh, Schumer wants to stick is himself into these things by talking about how if he's going to go to war, then Trump better check with Chuck Schumer and the rest of Congress. Play six. Now. I told the president that these conflicts have a way of escalating.

The President may not intend to go to war here, but we're worried that he and the administration may bumble into a war. We told the room that the Democratic position is that Congressional approval must be required before funding any conflict in Iran. One of the best ways to avoid bumbling into war, a war that nobody wants, is to have a robust, open debate and for Congress to have a real say. We learned that lesson in the

runner up to Iraq. The lesson that I learned in the run up to Rock is that members of Congress didn't really want to have to take a tough vote, so they gave the president the authorization. Right, they gave the president the authorization for the use of military force, but they didn't they didn't vote for a war in Rock and voted to give him the ability to do it. Let's say, it's kind of like the the Mula routine. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna say the president committed obstruction.

I'm just gonna lay it out for you in detail that he probably maybe did according to my expansive interpretation of the statutes. And I'm going to hand this off to the Congress, which is controlled in the House by Democrats, give them a little wink and say, yeah, that's right, run with this one, take this and I take this one to the bank. And that's what happened. Chuck Schumer now saying that he should go to that Trump should go to Congress before he goes to war, Well, that's

making a lot of assumptions. One is that this would be a big w war, you know, a war that involves major mobilization of troops and possible reconstruction effort, and that I don't think we're heading toward that at all. I hope not. But if the president's going to fire off a bunch of missiles to blow up some things, which is what we've been told as the likeliest scenario here, then guess what He's just gonna do that. But Chumor asserting himself here and asserting the Congress is just it's

all for show. It's all for show, and the Democrats would never want to have to take a toughest on Iron. They realize that the biggest problem for them is that the Obama administration's foreign policy legacy is effectively gone. It's gonna be very hard to argue that the Iran deal was a great thing and saved so many lives or with such brilliant statesmanship when Trump came in and said, nah,

it's Iron deal is no good. Now, that also means they'll never admit that it was no good, because they'll say that Trump ended it before it could be good. But at least we want to have to hear libs running around talking about how Obama saved the Middle East with this deal. If things were to quiet down, there in some way, which they haven't at all. Really, Yeah, isis is gone, but there's a lot of other real problems.

So there you have a team. We're gonna get into the border and the situation at our southern border, and also this h Ice raid that's expected in the next few days. This is going to be It's gonna be pretty big if this happens, this will set off a chance of events, I think where people are going to be very very upset on the left with the enforcement of law, which is what will be happening here. This

is a law enforcement operation. It is completely legitimate under our law, and yet the left is gonna I don't know, you might have people laying down in traffic to stop this kind of thing. This is gonna get This is gonna get crazy. Let me give you the details and a much more on this coming up in just a moment. Among the most hypocritical political movements out there, among the

very most hypocritical is feminists. Now, without getting too deep into my very strident criticisms of the modern feminist movement, which perhaps that would be a fun show for another day, let me just say that one area where you know, you know that feminists will just abandon their principles and no longer matters to them what's what they've been saying

and what they care about. No, no no, no, the moment a woman is a conservative, or the moment that a person who has been treated poorly because they're a woman, and as a woman on the right, it doesn't matter anymore, they will not come to their defense. You can get away with saying things to a conservative female as a public official or as a member of the media that you would never be able to do to a prominent

leftist female. I mean, do you think that any of the groups that any these feminist groups, the National Organization of Women and all these other you know, all they really seem to do is call for boycotts and agitate people and be annoying. But do you think that any of those groups came to Sarah huckeyby Sanders defense when her paint, when her appearance, and her the way she talked. I mean, she was mocked, just ridiculed by the press and by at the White House Correspondence dinner, and then

when people chase her around and threaten her. Do you think that the any of these national women's organizations, No, It is a stunning but real thing that leftist females somehow think that women that are conservative lose their femaleness, the desire to protect them, stand up for them as females no longer really, no longer really exists, doesn't matter.

And I just think about this because of what happened on Capitol Hill early this week with Hope Hicks, who used to be a very close aid and adviser to Donald Trump and now President Trump for many years now. It goes that's saying Hope Hicks is very, very lovely, and I'm a fan of her work, and I think we would get along famously, and I believe she's single.

But that's neither here nor there, because I speak now as somebody who is a gentlemanly fellow, and it is abhorrent when you hear what Congressman Jerry Nadler did in the transcript of this interview with her, where Congress was grilling her on you know, it's more of the show trial stuff. Let's just get her in front of Congress and try to find something embarrassing that we can leak, or something embarrassing that we can use in whatever way.

And Congressman Nadler, whom I've seen photos and Mark I don't know if you've seen these or not, but we're he sitting down and his pants are like up to his neck. I didn't know a human being could wear pants that high. I don't know if you know I'm talking about. But sounds like photo looks like it. Yeah, if the photo looks like it's photoshop. I didn't think that anybody would be able to do this. I mean, his pants are almost at chin height at least sitting down.

And I'm all for, you know, wearing him at waist level, like you're supposed to not let him sack down. But I don't think I go with the chin pants. That's a weird deal. But he was talking to Hope Hicks, who's also I think now a senior PR person for Fox Fox Corporation or one of those things, and referred to her three times, according to the transcript, three times as miss Lewandowski. Now he might say, who cares, well,

there's a little something behind that. There had been rumor reported in Michael Wolfsbuck as well as elsewhere that Lewandowski, who's who is married, by the way, Otherwise, I don't I think this would be a kind of a total non story, right, I mean, single people do single people things. But Lewandowski's married, and that there was allegations, publicly aired allegations that there was an affair between Hope Picks and Lewandowski.

She would have been a single woman, but he was, you know, doing what he was doing, or at least that's the allegation. I don't know if it's true or not. Doesn't really matter to me. What matters to me, I mean I shouldn't say it doesn't matter to me, but it's not my business right now. Is that Jerry Naller

was just taking cheap shots at her? And if members of Congress had any other prominent female, could you imagine if Republican members of Congress had a prominent female who had a a let's say, checkered past in when it comes to romance, or had slept with a very powerful man on her way to the top of the political system somewhere, you might have had a prominent member of the member. You might even have a woman who in her background had had an affair with a married man

and it was very important for her political career. And now she's running for president from the Great State of California. Right, you may have had any number of things. And if a Republican did that and referred to the alleged affair through by using the last name of the male that the woman had slept with, you would you would see them. And I saw that guy. John Harwood is a total hack. I mean, he's one of these guys. Is such a lib. It's so obvious. It's obvious when he got to moderate

the presidential debate. I mean, he's just a super lib. You know, Harvard saying, I don't think that. I don't think that he called her Lewandowski on purpose. Really three he got the namebor on three times and her name was never Lewandowski. What does she have to do with Cora Lewandowski. Oh that's right, there's that allegation of the affair. But so it's just a cheap shot. It's just a cheap shot. Express that's what the Dems do in the Congress.

One other story. They'll put a smile on my face today. I like this anyway. Yes, I am. I am here to stand for Hope Picks or stand for her. Like I said, I'm just I'm a gentleman, and I hope she'd be treated appropriately, and I would always treat her appropriately. Of course, that's a conversation for another time. Now we have in them not forgetting about Jusse Smolette. Don't think that I'm going to let this slide. In the Jusse Smolett's case, a judge has ordered the appointment of a

special prosecutor, which means that the Empires star could face charges. Now, the reason behind this was at least in part that state's attorney Kim Fox to X's on the end of her name. Kim Fox recused herself from the case but appointed her replacement on the case. You see, that's just putting somebody in charge who would do her bidding. That's

quite obvious. That's a no no. So now the judge that is looking at this case has said that quote, if there are reasonable grounds to believe that any other criminal offense was committed, a special prosecutor may commence the prosecution of any crime as may be suspected. That's right, Smolette could get prosecuted. Look, he should be prosecuted. He should be prosecuted, and he should serve some time in prison, not years and years and years, but he should serve.

These should serve thirty days in prison. That sounds about right for what he did. Oh yeah, oh yeah. And if nothing else, that smug nonsense he pulled where when he knew that they just destroyed the justice system to make, you know, make things go away for a little bratt Jesse Smollett. Then when he stood outside and said, I never did anything wrong. I'm so innocent. That was just too much, man, that was just too much. It's just it's just wrong. He needs to go down. And I

think that this may be the special prosecutor. We'll see the special prosecutor looking into how this case was handled. Though. This is a real way to make a name for yourself for somebody who cares about justice and does the right thing, which would mean that Jesse's going down. Oh boy, if this happens, this is gonna cause quite a ruckus. Seeing reporting now of what I had been told by some sources here in DC much earlier in the week,

All right went on Tucker Show to discuss that. And it looks like it's all coming together, all coming to pass that there's going to be some major ice raids starting in just a few days. Immigrations and Customs Enforcement officers are going to be gathering up up to two thousand families in ten major US cities like Houston, Chicago, Miami, Los Angeles. They're gonna be gathering them up and they're going to be detaining them and then they are going

to be deporting them. This is referred to as a family op, as a family operation, and the Trump administration is likely to send people on these pre dawn raids and there's going to be I can assure you of this. The coverage of this is going to make it look like all of these, all of these efforts at a rest will look like the bin laden raid. I mean, they're just going to do whatever they have to do.

Take it it. They'll just do a close up of a crying child and change the photograph a little bit so that it changed the shading of it so it looks like it's, oh, it's this really dark and sinister atmosphere that they're in. But they'll do whatever they have to do. They're going to make this look like Trump is sending out Nazi stormtroopers. You know, this is going to be Immigrations and Customs Enforcement as the new SS. And is that even an exaggeration at all based on

what they say about the concentration camps. Maybe they won't call the ice officers SS, but they certainly say they work for concentration camps. So I don't know what that makes them in the eyes of these crazy libs. Two thousand families facing deportation that are going to be possibly getting picked up and deported, and let's just let's just be clear about what's happening here. This is simply the enforcement of a law. No one no one is claiming.

No one makes the claim that these individuals have not had their due process, have not broken the law, and are not legally supposed to be deported. They are very much legally supposed to be deported. So why will there

be such an outcry here? You know there will be the moment they start picking up these individuals, we will be told that, you know, Trump is a fascist and this is so horrible and unkind and terrible because you know the place where the left cannot maneuver anymore, and we know what they are, which is open borders zealots. The place where that really comes into focus and becomes clear is on enforcement of the immigration laws, on issues

of process and asylum. They can always say, oh, no, we're in favor of whatever the process says at the end, whatever the process tells us when it's all said and done, that's what we're that's what we want. We're good with whatever, as long as the process has no we know that that's not true. That's just a delaying tactic about what they are telling us now or what they will tell us. Once you actually see the roundup of these different individuals happening. Is oh, my gosh, how could you be so how

could you be so cruel? How could you be so heartless? How could you do this? And Republicans and conservatives will look back at them and say, well, this is the law. Why why shouldn't we do this if the people that are in the country are able to stay because they're going through the process, even as illegals and sung in many cases, though, don't we have to enforce the end state of the process or else it's not a process at all. It's just an open invitation to come into

this country. I mean, right now, there are a million immigrants living in the the United States who have active deportation orders against them, a million. There are a million people here that our legal system that the system we have has looked at individually, and the end res it was you need to leave. You are not allowed to be here anymore. A million. That's it's a lot of people that are in addition to the allegedly eleven more like

twenty million illegals that are in the country overall. There's reporting here that DHS Secretary Kevin mcaleen and wants ICE to go after a smaller, smaller, more targeted group, wanted to find one hundred and fifty families who the taxpayer provided with attorneys but who decided to just stop showing up to their their court dates and just left, just weren't gonna weren't going to go through the process anymore. So that tells you something else about the legal population

I'm dealing with here. You pay your tax dollars, pay to give them legal representation, and many of them decide, you know what, We're just not even going to go through this legal process anymore. Let's just stay. This place is better, Let's just stay here. And one another part of this that I always find, there's no answer for this. You'll never hear anybody explain this, But you know, if illegals are treated so badly in this country, man, they

don't want to go back to wherever they're from. You know, if illegals are living in the shadows and things are so tough and so rough for them, they certainly have a preference for being here. And you'll notice they don't stop in Mexico, a country that for a lot of these illegals they would share a native language with, share

a lot of cultural similarities. I'm not trying to offend anybody, but from what I understand, there's a lot of cultural crossover between you know, Mexico and El Salvador, and Mexico and Honduras are much more similar than say Mexico and Japan. But a million people waiting for deportation orders in the country right now. And as we start to see the enforcement process, the enforcement mechanism get kicked up and get

get going, the libs are going to lose their minds. Now, from Trump's perspective, this is good because it will show just how extreme the other side and this debate has become. I mean that the President will be able to point and say, see these libs, they are crazy. We're not even going after just illegal illegal immigrants in general in the country to deport them. We're going after people that have gone through the process and have a deportation order

outstanding against them. This person must, under our law, be deported. Picking those individuals up and trying to send them back to their home country. The left is going to go completely bonkers, and Trump will have an opportunity then to show where he stands on this versus where the Libs stand, because there's another another aspect here you have to work in. Trump has not succeeded on the merits on the border. He has not. That is just a fact. I wish

it were not so, but it is so. The President inherited a dysfunctional border with very poorly constructed laws in some cases, and he's done what he can. But there's a difference between good faith efforts to fix a problem and actually fixing the problem. And he has not fixed the border. That's just where we are. He has not fixed the border. Now, is it asking too much that within a few years of becoming president he'd be able to fix a problem that's been getting worse for the

last thirty years, consistently worse for the last thirty years. No, maybe that's not fair, but it does open him up to criticism. And we do not have a big wall s to Shining Sea. We do not have that. We have some additional fencing in places where we already had fence, which is helpful, it's certainly good. The people that mock that don't know what they're talking about. And the difference been having an eight foot tall or six ft tall decrepit fence and a twenty foot tall double layer fence

with all new electronics. And that's a substantial difference. And that's what we're getting, these really upgraded fences in areas where they really need fence. But he hasn't built a wall, he has not constructed that yet. Immigration illegal immigration numbers the border are through the roof the highest they've been in years. And this is all happening on the watch of a president who separated himself from his peer group in the Republican primary by saying that he was going

to get control the borders. So at least by upping interior enforcement, he will show that he's taking action that matters, and that also will allow for him to juxtapose his position on this from the liberals who are just they've completely lost on an immigration there. They are unserious about anything other than amnesty and open borders. That's what they want. January twenty second, twenty fifteen, My sudden, Grant was working

in a quick trip in Mace, Arizona. An illegal alien came in, dumped a jar, changed out on the counter, and wanted to buy a pack of cigarettes. Grant went to start counting the change. The man said, white, you're not going to give me my cigarettes. Moment this man produced a gun. Grant gave him the cigarettes, and as soon as Grant did, this illegal alien shot my son in the face, killing him instantly. These are stories that are happening every single day. How many more people need

to die? How many more people need to overdose for Pelosi to come to the table and do her job. How many people need to die for Occio Cortez to stop her ridiculous rhetoric about concentration camps. Mary Anne and I've been fighting for a long time. On their hands, our children are worth it, and Mary Anne's right, it's blood on their hands. That's an angel. Dad there Steve ronnebec talking what happened to his son? I wound illegal murdered his son in cold blood. Absolutely no reason whatsoever.

There are a lot of angel dads and angel moms across the country, and I'm glad that their stories get out, because if it weren't for the non mainstream media outlets, if it weren't for Fox and talk radio and the Internet, you would ever hear about angel dads and angel moms. The story that we're told about immigration all the time in this country is specifically illegal immigration is a fairy tale. The story we are told by a majority of the

media outlets. And in fact, if I were to walk in right now and sit down at a conference table at CNN, at ABC, at NBC, you name it. If I sat down, not at Fox. Although there are people at Fox are pretty open borders. There's just it's just not a mandate within the whole building that everybody must be that way or else they're terrible. They're obviously other people at Fox, hosts on air and people who have shows who are very in favor of stronger borders and

the enforcement of our laws. You can't do that at these other networks. You can't be that person. If I walked in right now to NBC and told them what I think about the border, and I know more about the border than anybody that they are putting air in terms of their hosts by a mile, because I hear

what they say and their imbeciles. So if they say, if I sat down there and told them what I think needs to happen the border, what the problems are, they would look at me like I was insane, and they would think that I was I was a racist because I'm white and I want there to be law and order at our southern border. And that's enough in the eyes of a left to qualify you as a racist. You are effectively the moral equivalent of a clan member. If you want there to be rule of law at

our southern border and you're a white person. If you're non white you want rule of out the southern border, well then you're a sellout, the left says, and you're a sellout to your own people. But that's the state of play right now. There's a lot of emotional blackmail that goes on, a lot of effort to make this about everything other than the policy. And this is why all these stories you see about, oh, here's an illegal who's a valedictorian and is working on this really cool

summer project. Whether she's gonna build houses or he's gonna build houses for you know, other illegals or whatever it is. You know, there's there's all this propaganda out there about, oh, we're just getting the best and the brightest with the illegal immigrants we take in. Now, that's not true of the legal immigrants we take in all the time. I'm

not saying it's never true. Certainly we take in people with special skills, and legal immigrants that come to this country are doing fantastic things and opening up, you know, opening up their businesses and you know, being very law abiding and respectful and great, and we welcome legal immigrants. But if we're going to be honest about the process, the process for legal immigrants is not necessarily and in

general a majority time is not based on skills. Now, I don't like even using words like excellence or you know, desirability or something, because you know it can a government even really assess all that stuff that well, no, but they can assess your your material wealth. They gonna that's your skill set somewhat. Those are things that they can do.

And we have a family reunification or chain migration, depending on how you who you ask, and how you want to talk about it a chain migration based system where if you know people that are already here, then you go to the front of the line. And that's what most of our immigration system is. But for illegals, what

has happened? And I know because I've seen just if you're a casual watcher of the news for the last twenty years, what you see represented for illegal immigrants are always these hard working, sweet, kind, law abiding families that just want to be here. And that is a reality of some illegal immigrants for sure. But if they're going to show us that in order to inform the public about the policies and immigration laws that we have in place, then they also should have to explain what do we

do or what do we say to people? Like the angel Dad started off a segment and it's Steve ronnebec the person who killed the Sun should have never been in the country. All you have to do is spend five seconds doing a Google search for LA counties most wanted criminals. Just do that most wanted criminals. You will notice some stunning similarities. You'll look and you'll say, wow, there are a lot of folks who certainly have Latino parentage.

They certainly come from Latino background, and when you look at their descriptions, you'll find, oh, in the country illegally. That's the similarity that's so striking to me. You'll see it. Can you read about their backgrounds? Oh, this guy you know is a thrice deported illegal and now he's a hitman for MS thirteen or something. I mean this, so we know that there are there are illegals out there who are engaged in a lot of criminals if we know this. We know this, but they lie to us

about it. We know this, but they will not allow that to be part of the public conversation. And that's why when you have, you know, someone like Steve Ronebet come forward to talk about the very painful situation of living now in the aftermath of losing a loved one to violence at the hands of an illegal alien, I just say this needs to be a part of the conversation too also. And so that's what the criminal aspect of it, that the crime that comes to legal immigration,

beyond the illegal act itself. I had to explain to Solidada O'Brien earlier this week that it is in fact illegal to cross the border without authorization, even if you were then going to ask for asylum. I'm glad that I was able to get Solidada free lesson. But they tell you that it won't affect crime at all. Well,

that just seems entirely unrealistic. That just seems like anybody with any with a passing familiarity with the realities of the individuals who are coming across the border, a lot of them are gonna be very poor, a lot of them going to be in a desperate circumstance. We're always told by the Libs that they're these precursor ingredients to criminality, that it's not just based on whatever the individual does or believes, but they're these early ingredients, and they're things

like poverty and hopelessness and helplessness. That's gonna have a lot of illegals that show up. They're gonna be in bad circumstances, So of course there's going to be an effect on the crime made. And remember, for those of us that believe in the enforcement of immigration laws, the crime rate from illegals should be zero zero. But then you also have the economic consequences of all of this.

You have, for example, Bernie Sanders saying that you know he is going to include in his healthcare plan, he's going to give healthcare to illegal aliens, not undocumented. That's not a thing illegal aliens. Here's Bernie sang it himself, play clip A twelve. We are going to end that and create a Medicare for All healthcare system rich guarantees healthcare every man, woman, and child, and saves the average American substantial sums of money. Senator, would you include the

eleven million of the commentity absolutely? When I talk about healthcare being a human right, last time I heard that undocumented people are human beings as well. You better get ready to give those human beings a lot of your tax dollars. And you better get ready to be told that you're gonna have to wait six months to see a specialists, maybe a year, not even get to see the specialists you want, but you're gonna be paying for illegals.

Healthcare is you can feel good about yourself at night. Right, You'll be able to sleep at night knowing that people that broke our laws and aren't even supposed to be in the country, they're gonna be getting healthcare. And whatever healthcare you get left over with, you can thank Bernie Sanders for it. There are people who will say it feels worse now when we're talking about race, or it's just feel like a devisive It sure doesn't feel worse

than when I grew up in Jim Crow, Alabama. Okay, so let's drop this notion that we're worse than race relations today than we were in the past. Really, that means we've made no progress, really, and so I think the hyperbole about how much worse it is isn't doing us any good. We still have this country is never going to be colorfulne we had the initial original sin

of slavery. It's still with us. So for people who say, you know what, it's top down, it starts with the president, It starts with the words, oh, come on, all right. I would be the first to say we need to watch our language about race. We need to watch that. We don't use doc whistles to people who but when we start saying, oh, you know, it's it's worse today, no they or not. Kandie Rice dropping some truth bombs.

Having heard from Kandy in a little while there, she was getting interviewed by an NBC reporter, and this is this is always an article of faith on the left from all of these journo types. They always believe that race relations, if there's a Republican president, race relations have to be getting worse. Race relations are deteriorating because of Republican Republican policies. Meanwhile, if you look at what the president has accomplished and what has been done under his presidency,

you have six million people off of food staffed. Now. Most people on foodstamps are white, which often gets left out of these discussions. Most people in the country who are poor or white, which is also often left out of these discussions. I understand it's the difference betwe an aggregate number and and percentage overall of the population, right, but still there are many people who are off the

millions of people are off of food stamps. Black and Hispanic unemployment, which is specific to minority communities, obviously are at all time lows. And yet we're told all the time the Trump is a terrible racist and he's a terrible person. And whenever you ask somebody what has he done that's so racist and awful, they'll say Charlottesville. And to that, I say, if you go back and read the transcript, it is very clear they twisted the words that he was used in Charlottesville to make it sound

like he was saying something that he didn't say. If you read it in context, it's very clear to me. I've gone back and done this many times now. He was trying to say that on both sides of the debate, there are people to debate over removing statues, not He was not saying the tiki torch mob was okay in any way, shape or form. That was not what he's but that's now. This is now one of these lies that you can't you can't ever get around because people will shout you down over this. That was not what

he's saying. I remember people shouting down those of us who pointed out that Obama did not call Benghazi a terrorist attack. You know, there was some reference oblique reference in his statement to an act of terror, and there were other terror acts that were mentioned before. He did not call it an active terror. He did not definitively call an active terror. And people got all the you know, got their monocles out to or their reading glasses. That's

not a monocle, that would be kind of weird. Who wants a monocle. They got their reading glasses out to make sure they got in the fine print. But they just had to keep that lie going as long as they needed to for the benefit of benefit of Obama, and that's what they did. So I like what Kandi says here, which is just don't buy into this. They're going to try to tell everybody that race relations have gotten so much worse. There were race riots under Obama.

There were there were people who were murdering cops because cops were being called racists so much, and Obama and his administration were effectively giving cover to that just complete garbage by saying, well, the community has a right to be mad and everything else. And then I remember this too, there's gonna be a lot of race baiting against against white people from the left to see if they can get somebody to say something stupid or you know, here's

Joy Behart talking to George will play fifteen. You know, the Truck Party seems to be in what they call like a white panic, that the demographics have changed so rapidly that white people are going to disappear or something, and they're in this panic state, I think, And do you think that the Republican Party will disappear and become extinct? Like the Whig Party eventually, and should they so their

concerns white panic, she calls it. Could you imagine if a daytime network talk show hosts referred to any other group in a state of panic about losing power? But no, no, white panic is fine for her to mock and make fun of. Meanwhile, a lot of these networks, like MSNBC and I'm sure they do it at ABC too, openly celebrate the changing demographics in this country as though that's the right thing. I think we should be neutral about demographics because it's just people. I don't think we should

be cheering for more or less white. I don't understand this. Why is it okay to cheer for less white? Should be neutral? Just people? Think about that for a moment. We'll be right back. I'm proud to be here today to speak about the State Department's ongoing mission to advance international religious freedom. This mission is not just a Trump administration priority, it's a deeply personal one. For many years, I was a Sunday school teacher and a deacon at

my church. And that might sound unusual to a lot of folks inside the Beltway, but I'm one of millions of Americans and billions of people across the world who live in a knowledge of a higher power. I often humbly reflect on how God's produce has got to meeted this office to defend this cause. Think about how as an American I've been blessed to enjoy the unfettered exercise of religious freedom, our first liberty here in the United States. Go into any mosque, any church, any temple in America,

and you'll hear the same thing. Americans believe that kind of intolerance is deeply wrong. That's why the Trump administration has promoted religious freedom like never before in our foreign policy agenda. Given our own great freedoms, it's a distinctly American responsibility stand up for faith in every nation's public square.

Secretary of State Pompeio, whom I think is one of the most impressive figures in the Trump administration, talking there about the State part mission of Religious Freedom, spreading religious freedom around the world. Now, that's in a lot of ways more of a lead by example thing than anything else, meaning that by having religious freedom in this country, and by creating an environment where pluralism and tolerance and those things can exist, and we create a model through us

the world. It's very unlikely that we'll be able to do much through our state department to get the more intolerant states to be willing to let people worship freely. And you see this repression in countries like Saudi Arabia and China and where religious freedom is absolutely not the norm, where religious repression is the norm. And it's because the state. And this is where we get into Stadism and the

crossover with the left. But the state in a truly authoritarian society has to view itself as in place of God. The most important relationship in your life life in a truly status society is the relationship between you and the state, not even with your own family. This is why true Marxism and true authoritarianism always try to destroy the family.

There is this emphasis on eradicating the family bonds. I mean, I've said this people before, and I'm always interested when they look at me a little funny to say, well, you know, as your first loyalty to your country or to your families, my first loyalty is to my family, meaning that as a human being, your first loyalty is to your loved ones. And now how could how could

family and country be in the conflict. Well, you know, if all of a sudden somebody grabbed one of my uncles from the US government and wouldn't tell you what was going on. They just said, it's for the good of the country. Guess what, I'm not going to accept that just because the government says so. You know, there are plenty of ways that you could extrapolate in your in your mind a series of events where you would

have to make a choice between family and country. And I think that, you know, a good country will never make you have to make that choice. That's one very important part of all this. You know, a good country, a country that is that is moral, and that is where the rule of law exists and the laws are themselves ethical and sound, is a country that's never going to force you to make that choice. But your first loyalty is to your family, to those that you love.

And that's why I think it's so interesting that you have these efforts, whether it's in East Germany or in the Soviet Union or in China today. Even look at the one child policy, which they got rid of a while ago, but China is still inflicts itself on people's social lives with this social credit system. And still is very much more involved in your personal relationships than a

normal government would be. So as I see what's going on abroad, I have to also then think about what's happening here at home on the religious front, because we got problems. We've got problems. There was that seven two Supreme Court decision that came down earlier this week. I didn't get a chance to talk to you about it, but it is about a cross, a war memorial cross.

It's forty feet tall World War One memorial cross that has been on public land in Maryland for almost a hundred years, and it was a seven two decision that kept this in place. Here's what Justice Samuel Alito said about what is known as the Peace Cross. He said it has become a prominent community landmark and should be upheld.

After the First World War, the picture of row after row of plain white crosses marking the overseas graves of soldiers who had lost their lives in that horrible conflict was emblazoned on the minds of Americans at home, and the adoption of the cross as the Bladensburg Memorial must be viewed in that historical context. Its removal or or radical alteration at this date would be seen by many not as a neutral act, but as the manifestation of a hostility toward religion that has no place in our

establishment clause traditions. Hostility to religion, what's really being taught to it's hostility to Christianity. The American state, because of the liberal left, now does have a tendency, does have a predilection toward antagonizing and singling out and harassing Christians, believing Christians. And this does not exist on the right. You do not come across. There are no conservative activist groups that want to rip down crash scenes that are on a public square that want to rip down is

this is always from the left. And to just hammer that point home, you had Justices Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Sonya Sotomayor as the two dissenting voices on this, Ginsburg effectively saying that this is that the government elevates Christianity over any other faith tradition by by allowing this to stand. I don't even know what Soda Mayor says. Ginsburg is the most left wing person on the Senate, I think, I mean sorry on this on the Senate, on the

Supreme Court and Sonia Sotomayor. I just think is the I really mean this, She's the least intellectually capable member of the Supreme Court. She's not an impressive jurist. She does not Her thinking is deeply flawed. And she yeah, she's the least impressive. I wouldn't go as so far as to say she's dumb, but she is the dumbest on the Supreme Court. That's just read some of her opinions. It's like she sat in the MSNBC green room is like, what do you guys think of this? How should I

write this? There's no rigor to her legal thing whatsoever. But this hostility toward Christianity, you know, a war on Christianity or war on Christmas people talk about. It's very real, and especially in this during with this administration, you see the choices that are made that are different choices than

what we're being made on the Obama administration. Obama, even though you get all these Christians, all these different you know, a lot of Catholics, obviously Black churches came out in droves for Obmama, and there are a lot of people who consider themselves very devout Christians who still will vote for not just Obama, but any Democrat. And that I do throw my hands up in the sky a little

bit and just say, what is going on here? How can you support a political party that believes in abortion for all nine months of a pregnancy, that believes there are thirty seven genders, that increasingly is willing to advocate for things like transgender teens and drag shows for ten year olds, and this, this is they're pushing this, This

is out in the open is now. There were some fierce debates on social media that I saw this week where you have prominent leftist saying there's nothing wrong with dressing up a ten year old in drag and having him go to a drag show, you know, dancing sexually and and provocatively as a drag queen as a ten year old. They'll say this, that there's nothing wrong with that, It's just an expression of creativity. Is a real thing.

I'm not making this up as happening this week. But you have all these you know, Democrats who say, oh, they're real, they're real Christian, they're going to church on Sunday, they really believe in the teachings of Christ. And then they they support that kind of stuff. And when you push them out, they say, what about what about immigrants? And what about social justice? And what about the rich and render under Caesar? Or what a Caesar's my friend.

I do not recall people, or many, many hundreds of years, for the first couple of millennia, almost after Jesus's death, thinking that the Bible is an exhortation to communism. I do not remember that putting a radical elite in charge of all aspects of your life, eliminating God. Of course there's that part of it too, and putting the state in place of God. But the left does want to put the state in place of God here, and they do have an antagonism toward or they do wish to

antagonize Christians. And that's also why you had this satanic prayer opening what was a city council meeting that's just happened in Alaska this week. No one really thinks that the Church of Satanism is going to care about this, right. It's not that they really think that by being able to say this prayer to city council meeting that they're going to be more accepted. This is just sticking thumb in the eye people that really believe in prayer. It's

a shame. But just remember this always comes from the left. W it's pulled across off a public land, or have the Satanic prayer open up a city council meeting, or all of the true hatred for Christianity in public policy comes from the progressives and from the left, and I think that they should be made to answer for that more a lot more than they do. Oh one more thing, there are so many people that wag their fingers at Christians for voting for Trump because Trump has not led

a perfect life. This is where a lot of you wo jump in and say, bakenonymous lead perfect lives. I know, but Trump has has particular, has led a particularly what's what's the word. You know, he's a somewhat self indulgent, lecherous guy, you know. I mean, he's definitely chased a lot of women for a long time, have been married a lot of times, and all that stuff. And I'm not I'm not here to judge. I know you're somebody

to telling me about that now. I'm just saying that those who are Christian who voted for Trump, they were voting for the policies of the man in power. They were not voting as an doorcement of everything that Donald Trump has ever done. And those who made that calculation were right. The Trump administration is more favorable to religious liberty than what the Democrats had been and would be. The Trump administration is a defender of traditional morality through

public policy, through law. It's not about the individual of Donald Trump himself. You know, I sit here and talk about David and Bathsheba, right, I mean, people make mistakes, people do things. What are the policies you push for? And that's also why the Pelosies of the world who claim to be believing Catholics, claim to be devout Catholics and then act in ways in their professional capacity where they have so much power that are completely contrary to

Church doctrine. They should be excommunicated. I know, people say I'm crazy, It's true, they should be I've gotta say it is fascinating to watch the Libs in the media decide that all of a sudden, Joe Biden is going to get some scrutiny. So you had two things that were destined to happen. And this is why I've always thought that Joe Biden was a weak candidate was very unlikely to be the Democrats nominee in the end, because he went through a period of eight years where he

was effectively untouchable. He was Obama's vice president and therefore an extension of Obama. And even though he would occasionally say something buffoonish and he did not have any particular accomplishments and there's nothing too exciting about what he did while he was the vice president, he was covered in a cloak of invincibility while at least as far as the press was concerned, while he was President Barack Obama's

vice president. But that all has changed now, and I think that so much of what has been Biden's advantage in the polls has been attributable to all of They call it goodwill, but it's really just the positive and sometimes fawning media coverage he received as a result of being Biden's VP. I'm sorry, Obama's VP. So now he has two things happening. One is the media isn't playing defense for him all the time, the media is not all just on his team. And also the public is

hearing more about who this guy really is. And those are both things that are not good for Joe Biden's presidential prospects. Here's David Harsania. He had a Twitter thread on this that I thought was really interesting because, well, what's ended up happening before I get into this Twitter thread,

is that you've had people that we're very upset. Corey Booker is the one that's most prominent on the list by Biden saying that he was willing to work across the aisle with or We're sorry, work across political differences with segregationists and that things could work very smoothly then, and Corey Booker has said that that was deeply offensive

and that he has big problems with that. Okay, so this is a problem in general for lives because these standards they set up of what you said thirty or fifty years ago, or whatever it may be, we can decide at any point in time, for the purposes of social justice, that you are no longer allowed to be in polite society, that you are no longer considered to be somebody who should be respected, that you should be punished for your sins of a very very long time ago.

And that means that anybody in the Democratic Party really, at least who's a white male, because I do think that there are different sets of rules for anyone who's a not a white male. But if you're a white male, the left can decide at any point to feed you to the lions. And that's one just because they're drunk on power, and also because they certainly want to have

that ability when it comes to their political opposition. So they want to feed whatever white male conservatives they want you to the lions, so to speak, and they also want to be able to do it to Democrats. So this is very bad for people like Joe Biden. Here's what David Harsanyi pulled together on this. I thought this was very interesting. He wrote today, It's been a great deal of time reading old Senate transcripts of Joe Biden.

I have a piece coming tomorrow, but here's an amazing passage about criminal rehabilitation he made during a committee hearing about bussing in nineteen eighty one. So David went back. Harsani, our friend here went back and pulled quotes from Joe Biden from nineteen eighty one on criminal rehabilitation. Here's what Joe Biden used to say. Quote. But sometimes even George

Wallace is right about some things. One of the things that is happening in this country is that the American people have given up because we are not very innovative. Let me move off bussing to make my point, and then I will end my part of it. Let us take the death penalty. Everybody wants the death penalty. Now we are going to hang everybody. Do you know why they want the death penalty? Because stupid sociologists and guys like people who sit up here in my job for

years kept telling them we know how to rehabilitate. They do not have the slightest idea how to rehabilitate. Our entire criminal justice system is premised on the point that you sent in someone based upon the amount of time it will take to rehabilitate them. That's not really true. But so the American people, because they're basically good like most people, in my opinion, went along and said we'll buy that, and they bought her for twenty years and it does not work. It flat out does not work.

And I get killed by my liberal constituency for saying it. I say, hey, let's forget about rehabilitation. We do not know how to do it. Say it, boom tell them, because if you don't, you know what is going to happen. Eventually, people are going to get so frustrated between liberal sociologists and politicians who say, we must rehabilitate our fellow man,

we must help them. And then they see Richard Speck come up for parole even though he did not get it, and they say, my god, why should that be so Guess what now they only have one or two things to choose between. They choose between strom Thurman's you have hanged them, and continue business as usual. And David points out here that this hearing had zero to do with the death penalty or rehabilitation or criminality. So Biden just went off on some tangent about the death penalty because

he felt like it. But that's the Joe Biden that used to exist in the Senate. So for Democrats to pretend now that he has, oh they just discovered these controversial opinions, or oh they've they've just figured out at this stage of the game that Biden, when he was a Democrat in the Senate, was working with segregationists or was willing to work with them on certain legislation. This is deeply dishonest from the media. They didn't just figure this out. They've known this for a while. They've just

changed what they want the outcome to be. They've just decided that they no longer want to be on team Biden. They prefer other candidates, and so they will not give him a pass anymore. And so this is why I think you're going to see somebody very soon here accelerate well behind Biden, well in front of Biden. Rather in this whole process. I do believe that is going to happen.

One other thing that came up in the realm of Democrat politicians and things that they're saying that I think may or may not be may or may not be accurate. Kristen Gillibrand came forward to talk about what's going to happen to Trump because of abortion Play sixteen. I think if this is a fight the President Trump wants to have with America's women, it's a fight he will have, and it's a fight he's going to lose because women

are not going to stand for this. We just flipped the House because we were angry enough to get up to vote and run for office. If he tries to take away our basic reproductive freedom, he will lose the presidency as well. Now, I usually would tell you that Kirsten jewel Brand is an imbecile, is a phony, is not somebody who you should trust or particularly respect. All of that is true, but I am concerned that she is making a point here that could end up also

being true. The abortion lobby in this country is feeling the heat in a way that it has not in decades. Missouri no longer has an open abortion clinic, and this is the first time since Roe v. Wade, the Roe Vway decision came down that there has been any state in the fifty States without at least one abortion clinic in operation. What this means is that democrats who are all forced to be pro abortion. Now there is no

such thing as a pro life democrat, not really. People who say I'm pro life in my personal life, but I'm pro choice publicly those they're pro choice, that that's not pro life. That's that's an intellectually untenable and morally indefensible position. Quite honestly, if you think something is horrific and murder for you to do, you're gonna allow other people to do that. But this is this is one of these areas that is going to bring the Libs

to get ugly beyond belief in this next election. It's gonna be like it's gonna be like nothing you've ever seen, especially if they manage to get and I do think they're seeing this as I think they're seeing this as a very important component. This is why Elizabeth Warren is starting to surge. You've noticed she's going after Bernie Sanders. I think Bernie Sanders campaign said are this week that

Elizabeth Warren is getting the backing of corporate interests. So the Socialistas are going after each other a little bit, but Elizabeth Warren is enticing to Democrats for a lot of reasons. One is that she's a woman, and Trump's greatest weakness in the states that matter are suburban, college

educated women. That's where Trumps has real trouble. So I think that Jill Brand's got a point there from an electoral perspective, that is an area that Trump has to really work on and that Trump campaign and Trump surrogates need to make sure they're doing a tremendous amount of outreach and explain, you know, who the president is on the issues that matter and why this is about what's best for the country. This is not a personal brand It's not Oh, I voted for this person, therefore I

am X. It's not a personal branding exercise. But we all need to also dig in and be prepared for what the pro abortion forces are going to be willing to do in this next election cycle. It's not it.

It was no small part of the Kavanaugh debacle. It was no small part of the count of debacle that they tried to take him down because of the threat to Rovuwade, and that women were willing to lie, women were willing to profane the oath to tell the truth and nothing but the truth because they thought it was worth it anything to stop Kavanaugh, because anything to save rovu Wade. So that mentality you saw of break you, break any rules, do anything you have to do, just

stop Kavanaugh because Roe is on the line. That's going to be a major factor in the thinking of the left going to this next election, which is scary. It's scary because there is a hysteria around this. There are women who believe that we're heading toward the Handmaid's Tale. There are women who believe that the patriarchy is real and they must smash it. With whatever leftist tools they have.

That's pretty terrifying, crazy stuff. Do you agree with AOC that ICE is running to concentration camps on the border. There are camps and people would be in and traded. This is very simple. I don't even know why this is a controversial thing for her to say. We have to really truthfully speak about what's taking place. And this is why it's really important for us to abolish ICE and make sure that we have an agency that is accountable to the people, that is dealing with this situation

in a humane way. There's no there's no way that we can allow for kids to be caged in this country and children to be separated from their families, and people being terrorized in their communities. We have to make sure that we are calling it out. And I am one hundred percent with Alan wow ilhan Omar there just batting a thousand on the worst talking points, the worst hot takes on immigration, on ICE, on concentration camps. She is in a class by herself of wrong. Uh, it's

it's it's amazing, but that's where she is. But she's also representative of this mentality on the left. I mean, she's not this is why when when we when I criticize AOC, and I do think that there's a real need to measure how much Tommy's been talking about AOC, because yeah, like I just like can talk like that, and just like I want to just like run all the America and like the economy and stuff and like free and like social justice and stuff. We can do

a lot of that. But ultimately, I don't want to focus too much on one member of Congress. It's more that she is representative that she is in many ways AOC, a distillation of the left wing mind and where the left of the American Democratic Party is right now. And so with that in mind, it's more important to tackle her ideology and understand why she thinks what she thinks. And I on Omar is writing Lockstaff with her on

all of this. Ilhan Omar is another far left, social justice, identity politics obsessed member of Congress that the Democratic Party is very protective of. And I think there's a there's a part of this that's also just due to the hyper sensitivity of the liberal mind as well. I mean libs are hyper sensitive in general, that is a true thing. And so when you start to you know, criticize some of their their favorite people. They completely freak out. That's

that's understandable. But also they they know that AOC and ilhan Omar have many, many, many adherents in the media as well as across the country, people who are true far leftists. But I like as she just goes, well, it's a place where people are being concentrated. So it's a concentration camp, okay, ilhan Omar. So I might go to a baseball game this weekend. There'll be a lot of people there. Is the Nationals baseball game a concentration camp?

Obviously not, so let's not be complete idiots for the sake of trying to defend AOC on the indefense wall. It was quite a week with this, and part of me was thinking, why do conservatives still talk? Why am I still talking about it? But they wouldn't let it go. They wouldn't take the l they wouldn't take the loss. They kept insisting, insisting that there must be some way to make it sound like AOC wasn't being an idiot.

But she was, and the American people know that. And I don't think anybody is going to come up with some magic wand to wave over her statements and make them seem not stupid. But yeah, the concentration camp comment that ilhan Omar said was in its own right, very very dumb. There are camps and people are being concentrated. Thanks ilhan Omar, really really good. And then she said that we have to abolish ICE. This is another talking point. This was said all last summer by the left. They

continue to trot this out sometimes, abolish ICE. What would that mean if you want ICE to be abolished, doesn't that mean that you want open borders because ICE is the body that enforces immigration law. Right. The raids that are expected to happen starting very very soon here, just a few days, those are ICE raids. So if you want ICE gone, oh, it's going to be replaced with a different agency. They say, why would that new agency, if tasked with enforcing the same laws, be any better.

And I just can't help but point out that, especially in the case of border patrol, you have a very large percentage of border patrol that is Hispanic of Hispanic parentage. I think it's about twenty five or thirty percent, which is a big chunk. And then you have about the

same percentage I believe our veterans. So you've got a big, big group of immigration and cust enforcement would be non white, be Latino themselves, and a big group our veterans at border patrol, and they are trashed, trashed for being morally the equivalent of Nazi prison guards by leftist nut cases.

And I just think we're all sick of it. I just think we would like to have a reasonable adult discussion about what to do with the border without these crazies running around saying the most inflammatory stuff imaginable because this is what they read on Twitter, this is what they see on MSNBC. But they've really decided to do everything they could for Ilohana Omar this week. It was instructive. I mean, it does show us just how willing they

are to go to the map for her. I think that I think you could argue right now that AOC because you're in the Democratic primary and you have all these different media entities that feel like they have a very important role here not to inform the public about this, but they want to have their hand on the control switch. I mean, they want to be pushing for the winner, whoever that may be. And they know that in these

primaries for the Democrats. In these primary races, the left wing base is very important, and so there's an incentive for different media outlets that want to have credibility in this primary, these left wing outlets to jump forward and have their people defend AOC, because even if they look stupid to normal people, they look like they're being loyal, loyal defenders of the progressive left to the left wing base.

So there's an incentive in place for There's no question there are reasons for the support of Okazio Cortez from the left, and that's why this week it was just it was mind boggling. What she said was so dumb. What so many people said to defender was so dumb. Team buck, it's time for roll call. Well, Team, I'm living in a world of mint tea and all kinds of stuff like that. So eating all the throat lozenges.

I don't know, but some of your funny because you always say that my voice sounds better when I'm a little sick. So at least we're getting some special some special vocals going on here right now. Yeah, yeah, but yeah, I don't know who gets a cold in the middle of June. But but I am that person apparently, so here I am with quite a quite I know, woe is me, woe is me? Quite a sniffle. I'll be fine. I know. I'm a big I'm a big baby about about being sick, especially when I have this new found

freedom where I can sleep in the mornings. Trying to find a place to move to in New York City, my friends, that's also an interesting situation. Let me tell you now, it's pretty easy. You just find four hundred square feet with very little lights somewhere and you agree to give them your firstborn, and then you're good. You're good. So there you have it. You know, just give them your firstborn. They'll give you four hundred square feet, no amenities,

no washer, dryer in the unit. A lot of you who are living in places across the country where you have, oh your home values keep going up, but they're reasonable if you want to get into a kind of starter home. There are all these other places people live, like Texas, for example. You realize the Texas just this year or in the last twelve months, has legalized lemonade stands on

the streets. No more, no more getting your registration card for your five year old lemonade stand, legalized beer delivery service to your home. That's right, even gluten free beer. I'm sure they now have banned red light cameras, which is fantastic. That's just a total. It's a tax on drivers. It's crazy. Fraud. Telemarketing has in fact been banned in Texas, and they've also cut school property taxes. So I'm I look at what they do in Texas and I say,

that's all. That's all great, fantastic, well done Texas. And then my career takes me to New York City, which ever I know who lives there right now says is in a downward spiral. It's still super expensive and fancy, but a downward spiral, all right. Facebook dot com, slash buck sexton and this is where we get the role call action going. You asked what our comfort food was. Mine is bourbon. I'm from Kentucky and bourbon has a

special place here period. I'm not an alcoholic, but after a day's hard work or a hard day's work, a short glass of bourbon is very relaxing. Let's my brain notes, I'm settled down and get some rest. My favorite is angels Envy, but it's a little pricey, so I go for four roses, which is a little more affordable. You know, Josh, I actually have a bottle of four roses here in my home, so we have that in common. And as

you know, I'm all about tequila and mescal. I wish that there were RUMs that were worth just drinking on their own, and perhaps there are, but I've never come across them. I find that rum is really because I try to stay away from the grain based spirits. Even though this is another one of these moments where I tell you that I have all these issues with our modern system of medicine, like there are questions that they

should be able to answer that they can't. So I have Celiac disease, which is an autoimmune disorder that means that your immune system fires, it attacks every time gluten the gluten protein is present in your gas or intestinal track in the intestines. And what happens is that through that that inflammation that occurs from the firing of the system. All the time, these small fingerlike projections along the small intestines called the vly, which are very necessary for the

absorption of nutrients in the food, they erode. They actually will disappear from the process of Celiac disease firing your immune system up all the time. So when I say I stay away from spirits, you can ask ten different doctors and get five different answers about can you or can you not drink distilled alcohol made from grain. Some say that the distillation process removes the gluten protein. Others say it's not worth it. It might still happen. It's

still some of their patients probably still. So the answer is, I don't really know. But that's why I drink so much tequila mescal because that's from the agave plant. That's definitely gluten free. I like Tito's vodka Yeah, Texas, because it's made from potatoes, which is also gluten free. Generally I drink sake, which is made from right but sometimes they'll put a malted barley in with the rice, to which I think they're not supposed to do, but it's

kind of a cheap way of accelerating the process. So, you know, gluten can slip into things. But those of you that don't have any food allergies, you're lucky. You're lucky. It is. I've gotten used to being gluten free, but it is not fun, especially because people go, oh, you're gluten free, like because you're basically a vegan. No, I do not choose this. If I could choose things, I would choose to eat Giant Doughey salted pretzels all the friggin time. But I can't choose it. It's my genetics.

We all have our things. My friends. Jeremy, Jeremy spoken, Yeah, that's not really close, is it. It's gotta be a lot lower than that. That was like Jemmies. No, I can't do it. I can't do it. Fuck. I don't know why you're listening to the radio. If you wanted to hear music, you listen new music station. You'll listen to a radio talk station to join the fight for freedom in this country, you know. So, I'll try to stop turning this into karaoke hour, but I get a

little punchy. I'm gonna blame the cough cough medicine. I I took some of the Nike Will last night. There's there's sleep. There's sleep when you're tired, and then there's like right after you knock backs on that Nike Will sleep. It's like it's that sleep where you you drool a little bit on yourself, and the middle of night you gotta yeah, you wake up a little bit, and then you don't care and you just go right back to sleep. She's like, I'm sick. What am I gonna do? This

little drool on me? None of you ever do that? Of course, only I. Only I drooled myself when I'm sleeping. Jeremy writes Buck. It is true that liberals in general aren't funny. Yes, yeah, yeah, Jeremy. Friends of mine who lean left often only quote other jokes as being funny, while they struggle to make jokes of their own. The right is just a more lighthearted bunch. Also, vegan cupcakes aren't bad. My wife made them for her vegan cousin. They use oil instead of butter and eggs, and they

honestly aren't half bad. Not enough for me to give up eating tasty animals though, No, Jeremy, I there are some vegan things that are actually just fine. You know, there's some vegan foods you can eat where you're really not sacrificing very much at all. And so I'm very honest about this stuff. Not confections, I guess you call them a baked goods. You can get great vegan baked goods. There's great vegan chocolate chip cookies. I know you're saying false,

but I'm telling you it's true. People. I'm the one who always lives in all these blue Kamie places. Trust me. I know, I know the food scene here in the in the lib dystopias. That's the one thing I do. It's the one thing I like about lib dystopias. They do have good food. I know you've got great food in other parts of the country too, I know, I know. But vegan vegan you can make really good stuff. It's the entrees that without are vegan that don't do it for me. I mean, I just think you just need

protein if you're eating entres. I don't and I never wish favored from that. People say, oh, I, but the way I cook the portobello mushroom with like the oyster sauce and just like all these other like really good herbs and no, it tastes like a mushroom, which is great as a side for my RIBI I do not want just mushroom. Mushroom makes me think where is my steak?

But yeah, you're right about vegan cupcakes. And yeah, in terms of the right being funny, you know, we've also very much had to deal with being made fun of and our ideas being mocked constantly. You know, I can't tell you how many times, and watching a show and I'm like, oh, there's a cheap shot at Republicans are up. There's a cheap shot at the right. Happens all the time, and so you just learn to be a little more

cool about things. But the funniest people, I know, because in a cultural sense, you are much more countercultural if you're a Republican. Now, you just are in an American cultural sense when you talk about pop culture, music, Hollywood. And so if you want to be a little provocative, the left is not provocative. They're just disgusting. They just say all the same things. They think shocking people is provocation. But I mean, if you want to be thoughtfully provocative,

it all comes from the right now. And this is why so many people have been drawn to the intellectual dark web and Jordan Peterson and other people who are willing to tackle these difficult ideas. I mean, I think we tackle difficult ideas here on this show on a regular basis, And I think that if there were enough libs who listen to this show who are in bad intention. They could probably jump on me for some of the things that I talk about. But that'll happen. That'll happen.

But as long as all of you keep listening, it's it's all fine. So it doesn't matter they I'm untouchable audience as long as you make me untouchable. So there you go. Lowell Right's is usual great job. I have an idea the problem you have with the podcast, like iHeart and other free providers, that they use ads to pay for their services, have producer Mike put tones where you want them in sort of promo so they can

coordinate when you want them to do ad insertions. Just my opinion, put some of your own commercials for the companies you have contracts with, so I'll help you pay for some of your media growth. Would also love for you to find a way to do your own news report like ABC does on standard radio stations. I know it's a lot of work, but another product to post and insert on your podcast as well. I also think listener to myself would subscribe to a voluntary subscription to

assist in the growth of your media company. Shields High. Well, well, thank you so much, man. I really do appreciate the support and the ideas, and I do think that we will launch. I think what's going to happen is that Shields High will come back as a It'll be a history and more deep dive stuff, and it'll come back as a paid subscription podcast, just because that makes it worthwhile for me to put in the effort in the

time to do it. And you know, it's not like no one's going to go broke because they're paying three dollars a month for a subscription for a weekly podcast that's got really cool stuff and audio effects in it. So that's the plan. That's what we got going on. All right, We're gonna come back with more Role Call at a moment. Stay with me. The show ain't over yet, folks. It's time for roll Call, right rights, Hey book, great show. For some time, there was part of me that was

skeptical of your devish stance on war with Iran. I mean, if we want to one day have a non Islamist Iran, there are only so many ways that can happen. War is one, and if it's not seriously seen as an option, is all this saber rattling by Trump a bluff, but I think you've sold me on the reality of militarism In this regard. International posturing is one thing. Privately, America's leadership needs to have faith there's another way to neutralize

Iran's Mullahs. I mean, put aside the nation's appetite for war logistics tactics. We're gonna make mistakes. Tell me, do you ever feel safe in a humvey? I read those things were never meant to be frontline patrol vehicles, spear tipping our convoys, laying down fire support. They were glorified hum good enough for Arnie, but we use them as armored cars when they're really thin skid utility transports. Our

Humphies were getting knocked out in droves. Rumsfell As, I recall said, you go to war with the army you have, and that was that. Keep up the good instincts, Buck, I think you're right on this well, Ryan, I really appreciate that, and it's the sign of a sound and worthwhile mind for someone to be open to changing their opinion on a matter like this, which is clearly very complicated. I mean, there are very real reasons to advocate for

a more bellicose posture toward Iran. And there are certainly very real reasons why I'm saying why I have been saying, for example, that we need to be very careful he I want to back off. I have been around enough in the war zones, you know, seeing enough of what the military has been doing, no enough from the intel side.

And one thing about my perch in the CIA that was really interesting and useful is the access I had to information if I wanted to find it, meaning if I was willing to look for in the various databases and places where it was held, was astounding, and I did spend it was really the best preparation imaginable for a career in media. Quite honestly, for a career as radio talk show host. I spent six years of my life reading all day long. Basically, what did I really

what it was? What was my main skill set as a CIA officer? What was my main day to day activity reading? It's not sexy, it's not James Baum with exploding cuff links. It's not you know, lasers and international supermodels. Although that's coming later, folks. Thanks to you. If the show keeps growing, we'll get there. But it was it

was reading all day long. That's all I did. I mean there were other things too, Yes, there was some machine gun training and explosives and stuff, but my job really was reading and being being an information super nerd. And so when I did that in Iraq and Afghanistan, I did have a very i think, a very sound view of what was going on was really going on in those countries, which is why I've been saying to you on the show that Afghanistan is effectively a war

we can't win. I've been saying it for all the time that I've been on air, at least as long as I can remember. And that caution in these matters when we're dealing with the Middle East. You know, could we break and rebuild a European country that shared a lot of our values culture? And yeah, I mean I'm not suggesting we ever do that again, but I think we could do that. Can we break and rebuild some of these Middle Eastern countries with all the different factions?

And I think the answer is quite honestly no, and we shouldn't try, and it's not worth doing. It's not worth trying. So and you might tell me, well, Buck with Iran. We're not going to try regime change, We're not going to try to rebuild the right. It always starts with smaller overtures. You know, there's always a let's just take steps in that direction mentality, and then things tend to get bigger. And no, I'm not somebody it

screams Gulf of Tonkin incident every time something happens. But you know, if we hit the Iranians hard, they're probably gonna want to hit us back. So yeah, we'll see and if they hit us back harder, and then you know, this is how escalation happens, folks, This is how escalation happens. But I'm very cautious. And here's why I'm cautious. I've had to visit a friend of mine and Walter Read as I've told you before, who almost got his legs sheered off by a by a mortar round that exploded.

I've I've walked around, I've seen what that's like. We better be damn sure if we're gonna put, honestly the bravest among us in harm's way again for something like that, we better be damn sure. And I don't think we are in Iran don't think we should be Gabrielle. Right, Hey, Buck, surprised to hear your newly single sad we're losing you to NYC. As a fellow elder millennial, maybe you can enlighten me. Where do conservative gentlemen hang out around here?

Dating in the swamp is rough shield tie, Gabrielle or Gabrielle. Gabrielle, I got a really the answer for you. Trump International Hotel, Darlin. Come on check it out. That's where you'll find the right wing men of DC gathered, especially on Tuesdays. They call it Trump Tuesday. I will not be there. Well, no, I probably won't be there this Tuesday. I will definitely be there the following Tuesday. So if you want to see and I, there will be lots of right wing

men there. I last time I was there, I was hanging out with an SF guy, actually SF guy, an Air Force guy, a bunch of people I know from conservative media. Usually my guys Harlan Hill and Raheem Kassam are always trying to get me to drink more than I should. There's a whole squad that hangs out over there. So Gabrielle, come on down. Trump International hotel just in the main lobby. You'll meet all kinds of conservative dudes there,

and like I said, I'm usually there on Tuesdays. I won't be there this coming Tuesday, but I'll be there the Tuesday after that and Corme and say hi, all right, team Wow, my voice just completely failed me there. I have a fantastic week and hopefully by Monday I'll be healthy. I'll talk to you then Shi'll tie