Trump Gets Credit For Baghdadi

actionable intelligence. Magnom mistake America, You're a great American Again, The buck Sexton Show begins analyst, He's a great guy. Now, Welcome to the buck Sexton Show. Everybody, welcome, Welcome. President Trump made an announcement. Please play. Last night, the United States brought the world's number one terroist leader to justice. Abu Bakar al Beghdaddi is dead. He was the founder and leader of ISIS, the most ruthless and violent terror

organization anywhere in the world. The United States has been searching for Baghdaddy for many years. Capturing or killing Baghdaddy has been the top national security priority of my administration. US Special Operations Forces executed a dangerous and daring nighttime raid in northwestern Syria and accomplished their mission in grand style. The US personnel were incredible. I got to watch much

of it. No personnel were lost in the operation, while a large number of Bagdaddies, fighters and companions were killed. With him, President Trump telling the nation, telling the world the very good news that the leader of the Islamic State is no more. These days and are incredibly polarized political climate, there are very few moments, very few opportunities when you would expect there to be a true bipartisan

coming together. But I remember, and the parallels between these two incidents will be a theme as we discussed this today. I remember when under the Obama administration, Osama bin Laden was killed, and I remember that announcement, seeing on TV jubilant reporters, seeing people dancing in the street chanting USA USA.

And now understandably, there was a greater psychological attachment, a greater sense of justice delivered when Ubl was killed, because he was the mastermind of the nine eleven attacks that killed almost three thousand of our fellow Americans. But there was an understanding that this was a good thing, that justice had been delivered, and there was something of a respite from the nasty partisan politics that define almost everything

in the news these days. You would think you would think that when Abu Baker al Baghdati is taken out by US special operators, people keep saying special forces. I've seen it reported as Delta Force. But when this happens, shouldn't we have a pause in the partisan warfare. Shouldn't we have a moment where we say enough is enough?

With all of that, this was a good thing. First line of credit goes to our military, goes to those in the special operations community who very clearly put their lives in the line for this raid and for many other raids and just in the day to day national security protection of this country. But the credit does make

its way up to those who gave the order. The credit also filters through the intelligence community, which I think these days could certainly use quite a bit more public confidence and respect, given the way that it has been shamelessly politicized against President Trump. But simply put, my friends, this is a big win. It's a win for America, for Trump, for special operations, for the intelligence community, and for Syria, the Middle East, the world, human decency, basic

human rights, any sense of justice. This guy was a monster individual, was a rapist, a mass murderer, a torturer, a sadist, and yet the way that the press reported on him was such a window into what they really care about and what they really think. Astonishing stuff, hard to believe, and I truly mean that. Over the weekend, I was at Politicon in Nashville, which was a fun event.

It was mostly fun for me to see some members of Team Baku showed up and thank you so much for those of you who did, but also to see some of my media peers. I have to tell you this headline, which has gotten so much attention from the Washington Post was so bizarre, a moral and just It's hard to explain how anyone could think this way. But the Washington Post initially called Abu Bakar al Baghdadi a terror in chief. I responded on Twitter yesterday to this

because they change that headline to the following. Abu Baker al Baghdaddi, austere religious scholar at helm of Islamic State, dies at forty eight. A. Yeah, austere. You could say he was pretty strict, you know, he would you saw your head off if you didn't do what he wanted. So I guess that's I guess that's one description of him, austere religious scholar. Another post had to walk this back,

change the headline right away. But that was not the only place I would know where there were very strange descriptions in what was a Washington Post obituary of a butcher of men, women and children in the Middle East, doing so under the mantle of Islam, bringing tens of thousands of recruits. Okay, this isn't I know in this country. If you have a white nationalist rally somewhere with ten morons who show up, we're told that they're about to

overthrow the country. Meanwhile, when you're looking at the Islamic state, you actually had a Jihadis who brought together tens of thousands of recruits from all over the world, took over an area that reigned over at least three or four million inhabitants and required a multinational coalition, led of course by the United States, but also with some very good ground finding from our friends the Kurds on the ground.

But as terrible a human being as you're going to find anywhere in the Washington Post, in its obituary of this, Abu Baker al Baghdatti referred to him, wrote quote, mister Baghdaddy maintained a canny pragmatism. End quote. M I guess enslavement, genocide, mass murder. Some people would find a way to describe that as pragmatic if you're a psychopath. Another quote from the obituary, Acquaintances would remember him as a shy, near sighted youth who liked soccer but preferred to spend his

free time at the local mosque. Now end quote, you could tell me that back. Come on, they're doing an obituary. They're trying to give a full picture of who this monster was. They understand that. As I read through this obituary, I could not help but think that if they were writing an obituary, if the Washington Post is writing an obituary of say, Brett Kavanaugh, there would have been more

acid tongued attacks. There would have been more nasty, undermining, viciousness about a future Kavanaugh obituary, for example, Then you would see in this piece about a mass murderer, not about an entirely decent and brilliant family man who is the worst nightmare of liberals precisely because of his intellect, his morality, and his decency. No, no, Abubakar al bag Daddy.

They can find another way to look at him. If you think that that's the only case, by the way, I would bring you the way that Bloomberg another major news outlet, you know, multi billion dollars. These are huge news outlets, employing thousands of journalists, tremendous resources. How about just terrorist mastermind killed? Congrats special Forces or special operations.

Congrats US military and the Trump White House. Sorry they get credit for there's the same way that Obama did his whole walk out in front of a microphone and look what I did. Bin Laden's gone. I'm amazing. Now that covered up for a tremendous amount of incompetence in the counter terrorism fight from the Obama administration. In fact, it was reported that some of the seals that were a part of that raid on Bin Lan's compound set afterwards.

We just got Obama reelected by taking out Osama, And I think that there was some degree of truth to that. I don't think it was wholly the case that that was why Obama got reelected, but a major line of attack on foreign p play matters would have been the ineptitude and the inability of the Obama administration to even see who the good guys are and who the bad guys are. It was a way to shut down that

criticism at a key moment for the Obama administration. They shut it down by saying, Oh, I'm sorry, Obama, the guy who killed bin Laden isn't tough enough on terrorists. Well, no, actually turned out he wasn't tough enough on terrorists. Do you remember all the mass casualty attacks that were happening abroad and here at home jeehottest attacks inspired by the Islamic State. No, I don't think he was tough enough

on terrorism. They always pointed also to his usage of drones. Well, that was because we were being told that drones were a precision tactic and that that was all that was needed. Of course, that wasn't all that was needed. Drones are not a strategy, and drones come with their own collateral

damage and issues. But Bloomberg tweeted out the following about Abu Baker Albuaghdaddi, Islamic State leader albu Baker al Baghdaddi transformed himself from a little known teacher of Charanic recitation into the self proclaimed ruler of an entity that covered squats of Syria and Iraq. Wow, I wonder what his favorite color was? Did he have a cat? What was

the cat's name? This is how they talk about as vicious a terrorist mastermind as you would find anywhere, as vicious has been Lauden just didn't manage to get in a sneak attack on us before we knew we were at war, But as vicious as Osama in law and in fact, the Islamic State used tactics that were so severe, so extreme that there were even al Qaeda members who reportedly felt that it might be too much, might turn some members of the uma of the Islamic community against

the Islamic State. And yet here we have reporters in more than one instance. And also, and I'm about to get into the this is just the way they report on Baghdaddy. I will transfer this into how did they factor Trump into all this? And then we'll discuss what does this mean about Syria. Wasn't it just a week ago we were being told that Trump had no idea

what he was doing in Syria. He's ruined everything, He's left all the Kurds to die, The whole regions up in flames now because of Trump, all this hysteria from so called foreign policy experts. I would note, my dear friends and colleagues here in the freedom hunt with me.

Did we take that position? Were we in hysterics about how the counter terrorism fight is over because of Trump's decision, How everything has fallen apart, We've lost all of our gains, We've abandoned the Kurds for all eternity, We've handed over all of our credibility to the Turks and the Russians. Were we taking that position? Who looks foolish this week? Not us, not in here a lot of other people.

Though perhaps it's because some of us actually worked on these issues and have an understanding of the underlying dynamics, and also have some interest in the history not just of the region, but of US actions in the region and what comes as a result of them in the immediate and long term. Make no think about it, This was a big win for America, for civilization. Really, it does not end the fight against terrorism, It does not

even end the fight against the Islamic state. But it is an important moral and psychological victory in a battle that is largely moral and psychological, But the media wasn't really necessarily sure what team they were on. Sometimes were they? How do we report on this? Don't want this to be too much of a win for Trump. Let's focus on that for a moment. How does Trump factor in to what is the single biggest takeout of a terrorist since been lauden and is certainly on the same plane

as the mission against oslom bin Laden? But what do they think of Trump in this whole thing? Bag Daddy and the losers who worked for him, and losers they are. They had no idea what they were getting into. In some cases they were very frightened puppies. In other cases they were hardcore killers. President of Trump minced no words when he was talking about the operation against Sababah al Baghdatti. And also though we i'll refer to him as al Baghdatti,

of course that means the guy from Baghdad. It's not really his name, so to speak, but it's really a place name that he took as part of his his numdager. But Baghdaddy did not die well, and the President had no problem telling the entire world about this. Producer Mark, please play a clip ten where the President gives some specifics about this. He died after running into a dead end tunnel, whimpering and crying and screaming all the way. Whimpering and crying and screaming all the way, I believe.

He also went on to say that he died like a like a Oh here we go, play thirteen. He did someone who has caused so much hardship and death, a brutal killer, one who has caused so much hardship and death, has violently been eliminated. He will never again harm another innocent man, woman, or child. He died like a dog. He died like a coward. The world is now a much safer place. Died like a dog, the

President said. This then resulted in the usual people coming out of the out of the woodwork to say that this was a bad idea, that there should not be this kind of spiking of the football. And in fact I saw some supposed national security experts saying that in comparison to what happened with bin Laden, this is far There are far too many details that are being shared. This was a pathetic criticism that was initially because the first impulse of many people in the media is not oh, Wow,

this thing happened. What does this mean for Syria and for the region and for America. The first impulse is, oh, no, this is a Trump win. How do we make it seem like not as much of a Trump win? It is clear from the way it was reported. It's clear from the analysis pieces as well as the hard news. The first concern of American journalists writing about this, by and large was to make sure that Trump did not

get a big win out of this. That also, there wasn't a sense of whiplash in the public from Trump has ruined our Syria policy. Oh wait, he just called for the mission to get rid of the head of the Islamic State. What do we do now? How do we spin that now? Primary concern this is why people don't trust the press. Why they don't trust the media, because they should not trust the press. They should not trust the media. They show you who they are time and again. As Bush once said, Fomi once can't get

fooled again. You know that's how Bush said it. I kind of like the way he said it. I also think that his usage of the term decider was excellent. And then there was what was the word that he made up? A word, and it was a great word on them forgetting what it was now misunderestimated. He was misunderestimated, that is for sure. The truth here is that President Trump does get credit, should get credit from any fair

minded press and any fair minded American. But there's a desperate attempt to make it seem like this is something other than that. The comparison to the Ben Laden raid that I've seen many in the media making is interesting because they say Trump gave away too many details. Trump gave away too many details of this raid. There's been

Laden raid. There were orders in the Obama administration. It basically just sit down and like, open up the books and tell the zero dark thirty filmmakers whenever they wanted to know. People were writing books about the whole thing. I mean that it was leaking, Like I said, it wasn't even leaks. They were they were told to do it, just sharing all the information. He was a sick and braved man and now he's gone. Bagh Daddy was vicious and violent, and he died in a vicious and violent

way as a coward, running and crying. Now people are claiming as well that there's the secrecy complaint. They were all that. You could almost line them up right away after this, within hours of this, within minutes of this raid, which any normal person would react you with, wow, that's that's great work by the military intelligence community. And gould call President Trump. That's really it. Maybe start chanting USA on the streets or wherever you are if you want.

But that's the way normal people react, and said the way the press reacts is to sort of try to be fair to Abu Baker lah blagh Daddi and be as unfair as possible the President Trump in terms of the credit that he would get in the circumstance. There were complaints about secrecy around this, that the President isn't allowed to talk about the raid. Well, the raid already happened. Abu Baker Lah Baghdad, he's dead. They're announcing that the

raid happened. Trump wasn't giving away any tactics, techniques, or procedures. Trump wasn't giving away anything that would help the enemy. Next time I heard the press conference, he's saying there that chasing down a tunnel. Guess what the bad guys know, Abu Baker is dead. They sent a big detachment of special operations to go get him. This is not something that once it's happened, it's not doesn't remain some big secret. You know, we're not trying to hide this from ISIS.

They're well aware of it. But another criticism that I thought was just so clear in its desperation, the desperation of preventing a full benefit political benefit for President Trump out of this whole situation, was that they were there was a lack of respect, a lack of respect that Trump showed by the way he talked about this, and I even saw I think it was the former and I worked for morale at the at the CIA, the

former deputy director there. I remember. I think he was one that went on CBS and said, you know that there were such an effort to be respectful to Bin Lauden and they gave him an Islamic burial. Um. Okay, that's one way to see it. There's also the they blew his head off, took photos of him, and then dumped his body in the ocean. So there's that. I'm not sure that there's any jihadas who's gonna say, whoa

they were really? First of all, Buba Baghdaddi suicided himself with a suicide vest we'd even get into that detail. I killed three of his own children, reportedly ran into a tunnel broad kids with him. It's gonna be it's gonna be tough for him when he wakes up after his so called martyrdom and there's there's no virgins. There's something else waiting for him on the other side. I

can assure you of that. But the complaints about this like we weren't as we weren't as gentle or as as gentlemanly, I should say, with Abu Baker, because is in charge as it worth bin Laden, the seals blew blew a hole in bin Laden's head, and then the military dumped his body at sea after what was reportedly a brief you know Islamic ritual. Not not exactly a warm and fuzzy situation, as it shouldn't have been, right they would end they killed this guy. I mean, you know,

war is hell. He's not even a warrior, he's a terrorist. End of story. What's the big problem here? But there were looking, they were looking for ways, looking for things to say, anything that could convince the general public, or really just that would feed the mania of democrats and anti trumpers. Out there that it's not possible for Trump to do anything that's really good. And that's what you

saw from the press here. There must be even when Trump Sometimes we'll make jokes about how if Trump were to cure cancer, you know, if Trump came out and said, hey, my administration, working with the CDC and private researchers, we have at all cancer. We joke around, and we're not even really that much joking these days. We woke around that there would be think pieces on vox dot com if you know why cancer has an important Darwinian role. I mean, there would be crazy stuff because anything Trump

does can't be good. So you have to find some way, you know, some way to frame it so that Trump is the worst person in history is still the takeaway for that audience. And that was happening even with this, even in this moment of time. It's it's sad to see this, and it was particularly sad that it wasn't just the press. Now Washington, d C, where I used to live, I've lived. I've lived a good chunk of my life in Washington, d C. So I know the

swamp very well. I know the swamp creatures far too well. And DC because it is largely now the population of DC is an appendage of federal government largesse. They are there, generally speaking, because of all of the money, the consolidation of power and money in our federal capital. This is not what the founders had in mind. This is not the way it's supposed to be. But unfortunately there's a

reason why. I think it's might even be seven of the top ten wealthiest counties per capita in the United States, just ring Washington, d C. And you got to go out in the suburbs to get your multimillion dollar mansion if you're a contractor or a lobbyist or someone who's real job is essentially influenced peddling inside the Beltway. But over ninety four percent, I think it was. It's definitely over ninety I think it was over ninety four percent.

Might have even been ninety six percent of Washington DC voters went for Hillary Clinton in the last election who worked for the federal government. So if you work for the federal government and you were living in Washingt DC, you went for Hillary. DC is a political monoculture for the permanent state, not just for the Deep state, but

the permanent state. The bureaucracy. And you got a sense of that when last night President Trump was at and producer Mark fortunately likes baseball, so he had to tell me that there was the World Series going on and apparently the DC team is in it, the Gnats, which sounds like a bunch of small flies. Do you not even know the name of the Washington the Nationals? No, no,

I'm hip, I know the things. But but there was this moment last night when the President of the United States is at a baseball game right after the announcement of or you know, within hours of the announcement that Abu Bakara, like Daddy, has been killed by our elite military. And this is how people in our nation's capital, some of them at least responded play clip eighteen. Please. There was booing. There were people there chanting lock him up

about the President of the United States. Now it goes out saying these people are childish and they're morons. But unfortunately they're all over DC, and they think they're really wise and superior intellectually. They think that they're the ones. They think they're moral too. They're better than the people that would at least give the president his due over what just happened in Syria. Oh and I if that is so, that's disturbing, it's upsetting, but it's not surprising.

It's not surprising. And can you imagine what the response would have been if the same day of the ubl raid you had had a big chunk of a sports stadium chanting lock him up or you know, send him to prison, or just booing Barack Obama. Can you imagine what the press reaction would be this it's just supposed

to take it in stride. You know, Americans booing their president on a day like that, I guess they have very little recollection, it seems, of the torture videos, the electrocutions, the head chopping, decapitations, just the cruelty, the cruelty within the Islamic state. That was a clarion call to tens

of thousands of people in the Islamic world. Some very interesting questions still to be answered about how that happens, how within a religious tradition there are that many people who when they hear that there's someone who's raping women, raping in some cases small children, as the Islamic State was also doing. There was rampant pedophilia amongst some of the senior leadership. You know, underage girls or the atrocities that were committed by the Islamic state are horrific, beyond words.

And yet there are people rushing from around the world to join them, in some cases from European countries, from our own country, join this group, be a part of this group. No, that Abu Baker was chased into a corner and blew himself up while killing three of his own children is a fitting and to a group that is beyond and beneath contempt. And we can't focus on that enemy together as a country. We have to have

the elites sneering at Trump. We have to have people in the press telling us that this wasn't such a great thing that Trump did because of X, Y or Z. This is pathetic. These people are sick the press I'm talking about. Now. You know the Austere scholar Abu Baker al Baghdadi brought together, as Bloomberg says, you know this whole area under his choranic recitations. Wow, I guess they're

kind of impressed by him. And yet we know how they would respond, how they have responded to what should be a moment of true bipartisan unity because they can't see beyond anything other than their Trump patriot. The Washington Post, The New York Times, CNN, these places have destroyed themselves. To anybody who has open eyes and any sense of judgment whatsoever, those organizations have made a mockery of themselves now and they're doing harm to the country. They're not

telling the truth. They're not truth tellers. They are lying about their partisanship and inflicting a very shockingly brazen propaganda on the American people on a day to day basis, even in moments like this. What does this mean for the Islamic State? I mean, let me, I don't want to do too much of just the how Trump's arrangement syndrome affected this, because it certainly did. It affected the way the media and many people across the country saw

this event. What is the truth of what happens now in the Islamic State? And also I want to get into a bit of what this means for Syria policy. The operation was conducted last night, the president. They proved a raid onto the target. The aim was to capture Abu Bakar al Baghdatti, and if we couldn't capture him, then of course we were going to kill him. And like I said, the raid was successful. We pulled our troops out. We had two minor injuries to our soldiers,

but a very successful, flawless raid. Now we get into the discussion we've had many times before. In fact, it's the discussion that I know a bit about, having been at the CIA during the take out of numerous high value targets in Iraq and Afghanistan. What does this mean for the fight against the Islamic State? What does it mean for the insurgency campaign that is currently being wage or counter terrorism operations? These are largely one and the same in Syria. The truth is we don't know. You

don't know until after it happens. One of the best parts of this, if you're looking at it from a tactical and operational perspective, best part of it is that there's a other than the psychological benefits and the sense of justice. Now, as we look at what happened, we also have the information exploitation that occurs. They were able

to seize, no doubt, a lot of sensitive documents. Who knows who they may have been able to, who they may be able to track down as a result of this, there's been all this focus on how they managed to track back Daddy down the first place. People find that interesting. I find much more. Yeah, they took out a courier and they managed to track him, and it was just

good intelligence work, which is really investigative work. You know, the difference between fighting finding rather a terrorist hiding in Idlib in northwest Syria and finding a you know, a cartel leader in the highlands of Mexico, it's it's really quite similar. You use the tools you have to try and get to get a positive idea on where the subject may be. You try to track them down. You have to then bring kinetic efforts to bear to actually

grab him or take him out. So it's really investigative work. That part of it is. It's from what we know right now, seems to be pretty textbook. I found some people that were close enough to him that then tracked down his location. They knew where he would be. The reports are that he didn't move for a while. They were hoping to catch him on the move because this raid was going to be dangerous. There were going to be a lot of fighters around trying to defend him.

I haven't seen the casualty figures for the other side yet. But I can assume that our special operators went in at night and were taken out a lot of guys before they even got close to Baghdaddy. There is a part of me that wishes that one of ours, one of ours, have been able to take the final shot like they did with Bin Lauden. But I suppose we have to be content with Baghdaddy obliterating himself, leaving him

also casualties of his own children in the process. I and it really tells you what a psychopath you were dealing with here. And also the need for fundamentalist Islamic belief for a jihadis in this process. How could a person do this unless they believe that they had some celestial justification for it. It just defies any reason or logic. You're gonna bring your three kids with you and blow them up? But what does it mean for fighting the

Islamic state. They've already talked about the person who will be taking over. They have this, this new leader, and this is another way. This is Look, this is a legitimate way, but another way of taking the focus off the raid. Initially, Abdullah Kardash, who was also known as Haji Abdullah Allafari was nominated, they say, back in August to run the Islamic state. So how much of the day to day was back Daddy really running We don't know, or at least we in the public don't necessarily know.

But there is now this Kardash fellow who could be It could be every bit as as evil, could be, even perhaps more capable as a terrorist leader. We'll have to see. I do recall that after the death again, because of special operators and some very good work in Iraq of Abu musabas Or Kawi, you had an escalation of the violence in Iraq and the insurgency and things

got substantially worse from a security standpoint. So just killing Abu musabos Or Kawi was not the Oh, the head of the snake has been cut off there for the rest of the body is not a danger. You have to think of insurgency and even hvts or how high value targets. It's like you're dealing with a hydra, remember the creature from Greek mythology, with many many different heads to it still useful to chop off a hydra's head, but you got a chop off a lot of them,

and you still have to deal with a body. That's perhaps a better way to consider what has happened here. The Islamic State is clearly under a lot of pressure because of the campaign that the Trump administration has waged since he came into office, which he also does not get sufficient as commander in chief. He does not get sufficient credit for that decision making, right. The credit for the raids, the credit for their credit for valor and bravery,

always goes to our military. That's one component of all this that's just period, full stop. The credit for decision making, We're going to talk about that strategy, decision making, command and responsibility that goes to the people that are making those high level calls, and in this case that's President Trump.

And as much as they may try to muddy the waters make that not as clear, they can't change the fact that it is because of a Trump administration decision that Abu Baker al Baghdadi no longer walks the earth today. But there's a broader piece here about foreign policy too. What does this mean when we are always being told that President Trump is incompetent, he's endangering the world, He doesn't know what he's doing. He knew what he was

doing here, where else does he know? The reality is, we've walked away from the Kurts right at the time where they were giving us intell legence that apparently was key to this operational victory according to them, And what my sources are telling me is that takes the counter terrors and pressure off licens and that risks an isis resurgence. And so this may be, as you said, an operational taxle victory, but strategically, Donald Trump has set the fight

against ices back significantly. Notice how Trump can't get credit for this, according to the press, that you cannot say that President Trump made the right call, did the right thing. They won't, They won't concede it. Their sense of patriotism, as weak as it may be, their sense of duty and honor, none of that overcomes the hashtag resistance mentality. Much more important to than that bash Trump than to

give credit where it is due. It's one of the reasons why I always tell you I give credit where it's due. On this show, democrat does something good, I say, good job, Democrat. I don't run around pretending that everything a Democrat sayser does is bad. In fact, I like finding things that democrats do that is praiseworthy because it is a reminder that democrats don't have to be crazy. Some of them are Democrats don't have to be hashtag resistance lunatics. Many of them choose to be normal people.

We would like to bring them over to our side of thinking. That would be far better. I do want converts. I don't want converts to this show. I want converts conservatism, but start off with converts to this show. So tell your liberal friends be like, hey, listen to this guy. Maybe he'll get you to stop seeing the world the wrong way. New York Times also went around. Then. That was Kendlanian at MSNBC. He started at Kendlanian was also a big proponent of the Russia collusion hoax, which was

a hoax. We can say that there's a hoax. There was no Russia collusion, So the hoax word is I think a very useful one. The death of this is from the New York Times. I mean, how many of these These are the biggest liberal news outlets in the world. Jake Tapper had more important things to do than covered the president's full speech and Q and A afterwards cut away from it so he could tell us what he

thinks about the events, because he's very serious as journalist. Yeah, the death, this is the near time, the death of Abu Baker al Baghdadi, the Islamic State leader, happened largely in spite of President Trump. Zach President Trump's actions, not because of them. According to military intelligence and counter terrorism officials. What does that really mean? How how is that the case? I'd like an explanation of that. I'd like them to tell us why, other than just finding people who can

claim the title of military intelligence and counter terrorism official. Yeah, government employees. Basically, finding government employees who hate Trump not hard to do. Finding people that also would rather believe the Trump just got lucky, or this had nothing to do, or it happened in spite of him. You know what did happen in spite of the bin Laden raid? Happened in spite of Joe Biden's opposition to it. But you

want to hear press coverage of that one. Joe Biden, in one of his moments of unintentional honesty, He's like, yeah, I just didn't think we should do that raid. Good job, Joe. We'll get to Biden later on in the show. But it happened in spite of it. Not only does Trump not get the credit, Trump should be blamed. You see, the media wants you to blame Trump because if it were up to him, this wouldn't have happened. Well, I guess we should just be happy. The press things. That's

good that albu Baker al Baghdadi is gone. That's something of a victory for us, I suppose, for sanity. But there's a broader question here, and this ties into the sources that are speaking out against President Trump and what's happened here in this raid. Because more broadly, foreign policy was supposed to be the realm where Trump was out

of his depth. We have been told from day one that Trump is a This is what the media and the intelligency and a lot of former government officials, they have been telling us that Trump has no curiosity about the world, no understanding about the world, doesn't read any books, doesn't know anything about anything, and therefore we should not support him because he's going to do all these terrible

things that will harm our natural security. I've heard so much criticism of Trump harming our natural security, and I look around and say, where has it been harmed exactly other than in these rhetorical terms of oh, the perception of us in the world. This is just all propaganda, This is all just This is bloviating, This is opinions, This is pomposity dressed up as analysis. What is this? Trump has made the country less safe? How by doing what? Oh?

And where have we taken thousands of casualties because of a stupid decision that Trump has made. Where have we enmeshed ourselves much more deeply in a war that we had no strategic vision to complete. I think the answer is they'd never give us any specifics on this because it hasn't happened. You cannot look at the first four years of Trump or Bush's for I'm sorry of Trump's foreign policy and compare it to Obama or Bush and not come away thinking this Trump guy has got some

good ideas. He's actually making some things happen. And this is where you get to the egos involved in the Trump opposition, which is a beyond just the hard left. This is beyond just the progressive democrats and socialists running around who despised Trump because he's not woke because he's, you know, a vulgarian who doesn't speak about the thirty

seven genders and all the rest of it. There are a lot of other people, and this is where you get folks like Bill Taylor, for example, who testified recently as a State Department guy, saying that his perception of Trump with the quid pro quel, Yeah, the guy's a lifelong diplomat. Has he been right? Has it really? Has it really mattered all that much? Is all of this State department puffing, puffing up of itself all the time really worthwhile? Do we need a state department that's nearly

as big as we do? Are these bureaucrats are worth the federal government as important as they like to think they are. And they're expertise. We was here about their expertise. I can tell you this. I have a few people in my life who are just very They're voracious readers, and they read a lot of stuff, and they read a lot of stuff in the newspaper, a lot of journals and books, and they are as knowledgeable about foreign

policy as anybody I know from the State Department. And then some all right, so this starts to fall also into this cult of expertise notion that Trump is outside that circle. But what are the people inside the cult the intelligent genca on foreign policy? What are they to make of themselves when this guy who's like a reality TV star, who's you know, tweeting at people like a like a crazy man sometimes And I say that with love,

but he does. And you know, what are they to make of the fact that he understands at a gut level things that they don't. He has a more realistic understanding of some aspects, not just of how domestic policy works, but foreign policy works. Who are the good guys and who are the bad guys? How do you handle bad guys? Oh? A lot of brilliant diplomats will tell you how to handle Kim John Un, for example in North Korea? Do

they know what's the what's their record of success? Like exactly? Oh, that's right, it's it's a record of decades of bipartisan failure. What about on China? Trump's an idiot, He doesn't know anything. He's starting this trade war with China. Where's the where's the record of success from previous administrations getting China to stop ripping us off, stealing our intellectual problem, pretty engaging

in predatory trade practices. Who's been able to do They didn't even think it was a problem before, at least they weren't able to stand up to it and deal with it as a problem. So where does that leave us? What are we really to think about all of this when the President of the United States is not just presiding oh s and P. Five hundred is at like an all time high. I think today, stock markets still booming, household income up, taxes down. The debt's a problem. I

will not let it go. Almost a trillion dollars unacceptable. But there's a lot of other stuff you look at, and that gets no attention whatsoever, No focus on the things that are going on and Trump's White House and what that means for the rest of America. No, we're just we're told these things by people who are convinced their right and are desperate, desperate to convince the rest of the American people that Trump is just oh so wrong. There's no idea, what he's doing is way out of

his depth. Where's the evidence for that? Stop giving me anonymous sources, which is what we have here. Sources in the government say yeah, like Brennan worked for the government. Brennan was CIA director. I wouldn't trust that guy to tell me about anything. Guy was a former commie, legitimately like a communist. And it's like, you know, people listening to Bernie Sanders. I've got to tell you, I had some I had some moments over the weekend. I was debating.

I'll get into that the debate that we had at politicon over healthcare, which I think is probably online you can watch it, but just looney Tunes kind of stuff. I mean, just people saying crazy things. But on foreign policy, this is where the smart people were supposed to sneer at Trump and be right, he doesn't understand, he doesn't get it. And the Obama people, right, the Obama White House and the various senior advice who are now treated like they're giving a sage commentary on the rest of

the world. They would always point a well, you know, look at the bin Laden rate. Oh, you mean the like sort of like the Baghdadi rate where Trump had elite operators moving through multiple tiers of enemy airspace. Really it's airspace controlled by the Syrians and the Russians. You've also got to be concerned about the Turks in this region had to deconflict with them. There were people just

so you know, how crazy the press release. There were people who were saying, oh see, he coordinated with the Russians, Putin's puppet. Oh yeah, maybe he's Putin's puppet, or maybe those journals should know that flying a bunch of US airy air assets into someone else's airspace without telling them when they have advanced surface to air defense systems like the Russians do, as well as their own planes and helicopters,

that could be countermeasures. Maybe we just didn't want to get our guys blown out of the sky by the Russians. To not DeConick with the Russians before and would have been the suicidal, would have been insane. And yet doing that very basic step is pointed to as further evidence of Trump is Putin's puppet. Trump's a bad guy. Can't trust Trump, can't trust him even when he's ordering this raid.

The Obama foreign policy, I can point to places all over the world and say got worse, got worse, Afghanistan worse, Iraq, worse, Syria worse, Libya, worse, Egypt worse. Give me a country that mattered in terms of US foreign policy where there were problems, and I will tell you under the Obama aministration, and I'll point to it and say, oh, yeah, you mean the one that got dramatically worse while Obama's team

was running things. Look at who's in charge. Would you rather have Susan Rice, who called Lindsey Graham a piece of blank recently publicly? Would rather Susan Rice making decisions or Pompeo making decisions about foreign policy? You'd rather have Hillary Clinton making foreign policy decisions? I certainly hope not yet. Here we are. This is what we were dealing with it.

It was disgraceful the way the press reacted this, But as we know, it's all about narrative, and the narrative has to be the Trump's foreign policy is bad, and this can't be used the way that it was used very effectively. I might add, to create a false perception that Obama's foreign policy was competent, because it was not. They don't want that to happen now because Trump's foreign policy so far has been competent, and now he has

this counter terrorism success. They're terrified about what this means for twenty twenty. Once the foreign policy criticism going to be, Oh, NATO, Trump is too rough with NATO and so he's going to break up the alliance. That's false. NATO allies are not paying more money they did before Trump. All Trump has done is hold them to account for their promises or for their targets, the goals that they've set for themselves. NATO Alliance about to break up. But what matters is

just the narrative. These people are just you know, the left. I got used to having a government apparatus for eight years of the Obama administration that was more or less always reflecting something other than my view on policy matters, and said, all right, well we're out of power right now. We got to make the case, and we gotta I didn't wake up every day and some kind of a cold sweat freaking out about how we can't survive another administrator,

another Obama industry. Now they really think that about Trump. And if you really believe that, what are you unwilling to do? And say? The press completely embarrassed themselves. I mean, these these legacy media outlets, they really should just slowly go away. I mean that would be that I'm hoping the market does that to them all they have so much money behind them, and it takes a while for them to really you know, the New York Times would

already be bankrupt. That hadn't gotten a billionaire. The Washington Post would already be bankrupt. I hadn't that a billionaire backing. I mean, these these legacy media outlets are now largely turning into artistic projects for liberal billionaires. That's really what they're That's really what's going on. Oh and also, you don't want to mess with somebody who's got a massive newspaper. You know, don't don't pick fights with somebody who buys ink by the barrel, so to speak, or in this case,

employs a whole bunch of people to write stuff online. Team, Just a quick note, welcome back the bucks Ecton show. You know when President Trump said that Habu Baker al Baghdaddi, you know, died like a dog, and he kind of said it like that, it really it reminded me of something. I'm wondering who among you will will know this line right out, because there's a part of it feels like

maybe Trump, I'm sure he's seen this movie. Is it possible that Trump got this from the movie producer Mark, would you please play well, I don't want to say what it is. We'll see if people can pick it out before I tell them. Play play the clip, you know the one. I mean, tell me about the night he killed your parents. He said your father begged for mercy, begged like a dog, like a dog. I mean, he said it just like Trump said it just like Trump. Now.

I know, I mean maybe say it's a common phrase, but I mean, how many of you have ever heard a line from a movie and and maybe just sort of said it later without thinking about it. I'm not I'm not saying this is dude, don't don't tell me this is fake news. I can't prove this, but it just when Trump gave his initial speech, I was like, that sounds a little bit like who guessed it? Falcone the gangster talking to Bruce Wayne in Batman begins like a dog, and then of course Falconi gets his his

come up and later on. So I was at at Politicon of the weekend. I did get to see some of you who listen to the show, which I really do appreciate. I have to tell you, Nashville is a great town. I got nothing Nashville's fantastic, and I knew it would be. That's why I really want to get to keep saying I want to get to Austin. That's top of my list. I really want to get to Austin soon. KLBJ in the highs Our radio affiliate down in Austin. I really want to get down there. I

ate barbecue and Nashville. It was delicious, the food was amazing, that people are awesome, the music scenes fantastic, and there's such a vibrancy to that city. Now it's growing so fast. There's someone told me there are forty construction cranes now going in downtown building all these towers and any Austin, I mean Austin. Nashville was a great town. I really enjoyed it. And I'll get into someone what I saw

a Politicon a second. But I want to tell you, single best thing at Politicon for me, single coolest moment by far, was someone who listens to the show. So someone from Team Buck who's a member of the special Operations community, came up and told me that when he was let's just say engage in anti Isis Operations, his guys were listening to this show. And I thought that was so cool and I appreciated it so much, and he said that, you know, they really they like that

I have familiarity with what I'm talking about. I've experienced being in some of these places trying to help the

war fighters as a civilian intelligence analyst. But there is no greater compliment than I can I can have than to be talking about issues of well the fight of what was called the War on Terror and have the actual war fighters rolling around and I don't want to say where or how We're rolling around listening to this show, listening to this show on podcast and appreciating what we do here and feeling like I'm representing their perspective and

what they're doing well enough that they respect this show and they listen to this show. So thank you, sir, I won't name you whatever. Thank you for coming up and sharing that with me. And it really made my weekend that guys in the special operations community involved in the Anti Iis fight like the Bucks acident show. Today in America, the wealthiest country in the history of the world,

half of our people are living paycheck to paycheck. And Rashida took me around her district here in Detroit and I met with beautiful young people who are going to schools in which they don't have adequate textbooks. They are going to schools where their teachers are forced to work two or three jobs just to make a living. I don't think it is too much to ask that in the wealthiest country in the history of the world, we pay our teachers a living salary. Bernie Sanders is just

a socialist. I know we're always supposed to say he's a democratic socialist. He's a socialist. So let's start from the real core of his belief system. Yes, he believes in the process of voting, the democratic process of voting. He believes in also the imposition of socialism by the state. That your work, your time, your hours, part of your

life that you are devoting to be productive. He can take any amount of that away from you he wants, because it's the right thing to do, because you're too rich. People who have been paycheck to paycheck. It's not fair, it's not right. And the richest country, the richest country in the world, should not have teachers with five jobs, well, ten job, I mean, I know he said two or three first of all teachers, Every teacher that I know pretty much has at least more than one job, because yeah,

they have three months off in the summer. And please, I know this is some teachers get mad at me. Don't give me this like, oh, but we're just working on lesson plans the whole time. I know some teacher. I've been on some dates with some teachers. I know what really goes on. All right, don't give you this like, oh, we're just all we do is our teachers are working more than investment bankers. No, some might and congratulations, but

most don't. In fact, most public school teachers are in and this is not their fault, although many of them are very supportive of the unions that make this the case. They're in what is really a first and foremost a jobs program for adults, because that's what the public school system in this country is. It's not really about the children,

it's not really about the education. But this was a perfect Bernie Sanders moment here, because he said a whole bunch of things that would not withstand much scrutiny at all, but gets the crowd to go boo. We don't like the rich people to take it too much. If they have less, you'd have more that's the basis of the whole Bernie ideology. They have less, you'll have Moore doesn't

work that way. Paycheck to paycheck. I lived check to paycheck for the first pooh out of college, at least the first decade of my life, ten years working paycheck to paycheck. I mean I was, you know, one uncovered visit from a doctor or you know, one away from like living on credit cards for about the first decade. I was running around and I know what it's like to have worked for many years and go to the ATM machine. I think I was twenty eight or twenty

nine years old. I remember went to the ATM machine and I had you know what a lot of Americans have, which is that they'd have trouble paying for a five hundred emergency. I went to ATM. I had working for years working at the government, but I'd moved to New York. I was trying to apply to graduate school and had cashed out my four oh one k, which is a terrible idea, but you gotta do what you gotta do. Don't do that, by the way, go deliver pizza's work

as apera. Whatever you gotta, don't cash out your four oh, one k, you're just putting yourself in a you know, a more difficult position to catch up later on. So don't do as I did with that one. But I know what it is to go to an ATM machine and have less than a thousand dollars in the bank, and you've been working for years, years, but you know, things are expensive and you gotta pay for things. And I was not making much money when I started the

federal government. I was not making much money during my time at the NYPD. I mean, I was a government employee. So I understand this concern. I mean, economic anxiety is very real and we all have it. And the truth is that absolute financial security doesn't really exist exist for very few people, and even those people are always worried about not being as rich. You know, look at how how anxious many hundred millionaire and billionaires get the millionaires

to billion one hundred millionaires. That's what Bernie has to separate out and do, because he's just he's just a lowly like ten millionaire or something. He's not a hundred millionaire. There's too much money. But look at the way that they get wound up and anxious about the prospect of becoming slightly less incredibly rich. It worries them. They don't like that idea. Sure, some of them take this giving pledge, They're gonna give away a lot of their money, But

a lot of them don't. Most of them don't. But paycheck to paycheck, that is a situation that you make better. How how do you make it better? You make it better by taxing people more and having there be less opportunity for jobs and wage growth for the people that are working. That's not going to do it. That's not going to do it very well. Then you also made him say that the schools don't have textbooks and teachers

are poor. I know of many teachers at schools here in New York City who will I shouldn't say many teachers. I have spoken to several teachers at schools here in New York City that are schools that are almost entirely minority and not high income background. They're generally low income. Minority students are the entirety or almost the entire of the student body. The problem is not resources. The problem is not inadequate textbooks. All right, If we're really going

to talk about education, that's a whole other discussion. But there's plenty of there's brand new computers in the classrooms. The classrooms all look great. There's tons of money that's being funneled into the public school system in places like New York. In DC, I've been in. I was in a very poor years ago, very poor in terms of the students per capita income of their households. Poor school

in DC. And all the classrooms are brand new, and they had Mac computers everywhere, and it looked inside like it could be a private school, and the students were all underperforming, and the place was academically a mess, but it wasn't a mess because they didn't have textbooks or you know, the ceilings were falling in. I'm not saying that doesn't happen anywhere, but this is just not really looking at at the problem. No one's okay with the

school that's falling apart. There's asbestos or there's you know, there's no textbooks or whatever. But but that's really not the problem. They can keep pretending that that's that's really not problem. And a majority of the schools you can point to would say that there's a lack of performance. But Bernie Sanders All he's able to do, or what he does so well, I should say, is prey upon people's envy and whip them up into a kind of outrage and then mobilize that for his own political purposes.

And then that brings me to and I probably should have pulled some from it, but I don't know. I'm not sure I wanted to relive it. I had to do a panel at Politicon where we discussed health Medicare for All, and I started out and there was a Bernie Sanders spokesperson there I do not remember her name, a progressive pundit Sally Cone, and then a very liberal doctor who's like, I have an MD, and it's like

that's great, but you're also super liberal. And he was a psychiatrist, which, as I've told you before, the most liberal people in the medical profession, by the numbers, are psychiatrists. If you want people that are you know, Jill Steins supporters, go see a shrink, say hey, doc, who do you vote for um? And then you had uh oh, and you had I know him as Kane from what's Kane's name? From the w WE producer Mark, I'm talking about that guy.

He's He's a great guy, smart dude, too. Isn't he just came No, he has a real name, Glenn Glenn H. Jacobs. I didn't know his real name. Oh yea, yeah, Glenn Jake had no idea. He's the mayor of I think Knoxville, Tennessee. First of all, he's he is enormous. You know, you see people who are seven footers and they tend to be kind of lanky. Usually you don't usually seven footers who look like they could have, you know, been in Conan the Barbarian back in the day or something like.

This guy is Jack Still, he's a big dude. I'm just saying it's impressive. So you stay next this guy are like my, my, heavens and he's a libertarian, and we were having It's funny because we were trying to represent the reality based view of the problems in the medical system that we have right now, or the rather the problems in getting good care cheaply to people are because of intrusions in the market by the government. It's

because you don't have price transparency. It's because different hospitals don't have to compete with each other on price, because you can't even know the price. There's all this back room collusion with insurance companies and providers. They bash the insurance companies all the time on the left, but they forget that the providers are also, you know, just taking

people to the cleaners. The providers are often some of the worst offenders, especially within the hospital system in this realm, just doing everything that they can to squeeze every dollar of people. Especially if you want to pay out a pocket you should be getting the best deal for paying cash upfront. You should be getting the best service. I'm just saying in a market based economy, for saying, here

is my credit card. Instead, what you get is, oh, you don't have insurance, We're going to charge you four or five, ten times as much as we'll charge an insurance company for the person who walks in after you because of the deal we've struck with them. This is the problem. It's not that hard to understand, you know. Why, Why is it now that my iPhone is so capable? Instead, I don't even want a new iPhone cause I'm like, I can't even handle all the stuff that my current

iPhone can do. I feel like my iPhone, can you recite poetry to me while it gives me a BackRub? I just need to learn how to make my iPhone do that perhaps while it draws me a one bubble bath. I'm sure the iPhone probably hasn't happen for that, but I don't know how to do it. But why is it so sophisticated and getting so much cheaper all the time because of market forces? You know, I you know, I've gone through the process of moving many times, far

too many times. Why is it that when you have if you come and you get movers to give you an estimate, yeah, once you're you know, once they've given you that estimate, and usually they'll go a little bit over with movers, but you gotta give them a big tip. But those guys work hard. I'm always, I'm a big believer, and you know, tip well, it's it's never You're never going to be out of money. You're never going to be broke because you've tipped people well for the service

as they give you. I just maybe I'm wrong economically, but I'm a big believer and you tip people well always, and you know, movers, that's standard in New York City at least moving at twenty percent, which big. But why is it that when you when you have movers come. They don't just say yeah, we'll move you. It's gonna cost fifty thousand dollars. Well, if there's only one moving company and you really needed movers, they could do that. And you don't pant a whole lot of money for

a move. Why is it they'll show up and say no, it'll be two or three thousand dollars to move you because there's another moving company that they know you can call, and they're also going to compete on price. Now, there isn't going to be a moving company that shows up and says, hey, we'll do this for you for one hundred dollars, because they have guys that they have to pay, and they have bills, and they have costs and insurance and expenses. So this is how a price gets set.

But it benefits everybody because the price will cover the interests, the cost, the needs of the company providing the service. But also because there's competition in doing that, it will allow the person who is purchasing the service to get the benefit of that competition because they, you know, everybody wants that business. This is how a market sets a price. When you go in and you say, I know I've got a you know, my toe is has turned blue.

You know, I think it's broken or something. I've broken the big toe a long time ago. That wasn't fun. That you can't say to them, hey, what's this going to cost? They can't even tell you. They don't know, and they can't tell you at a hospital in New York. So then and then what happens is they figure out how can we extract the most money from this person possible, and it's either going to be setting an outrageous out of pocket cost for you or just trying to take

as much from your insurance company. And then the insurance company fights with them. But this is nonsense. This is the fundamental problem that we have, and that we don't have insurance. What we have is cross subsidized care all the time. We already have fifty percent of healthcare spending that the federal government's already doing. We're almost a socialist healthcare system in many ways, not entirely, been in many

ways already. And they say, what's your plan, I say, well, my plan would be let people buy an insurance health insurance the way they buy any other kind of insurance, have absolute transparency in pricing and a habit mandatory. What is this going to cost? Because one of the reason insurance companies and providers, especially hospital networks can get away with what they do is nobody knows what a cost at this place or that place, so the market can't function.

And they do this on purpose because it gives them more price setting power. And they would say to you, will buck, if we couldn't do that, though, we'd go bankrupt. Because Medicare Medicaid, where the government sets the price does not cover the cost of the procedures, forces them to operate at a loss. Again, price is central here. They

do not operate a word of the prices. And I've just got to tell you the stuff that was being said from the liberals, you know, the liberal doctor and then the two liberal ladies on the stage about how the Bernie Sanders healthcare plan is going to function, it

was just fantasy land stuff. I'm sitting here and I still think, I think to myself, they really believe that if we just elimit it all all private health and just basically throw the insurers out, have the government standing there, but keep the rest of the system as it is, with the government setting all prices. They don't think that that's going to be a disaster. Disastrous and disastrous in terms of your ability to get the care you want, disastrous in terms of your wait times, in terms of

the cost to the American taxpayer. Everything we have seen in history tells us that this would be catastrophically expensive and deeply dysfunctional. But the Sandernistas, even Democrats realize this is crazy. But the sander Nist does run around saying, oh, no, this is great, and if you don't want it's because you're like a tool of the rich. I mean, it's my friends. One of the issues dealing with Medicare for All is it's hard to argue with crazy. Crazy is

not an easy debate opponent. But no, he didn't succeed in his mission because there was inadequate transparency to the American people on whose behalf he was investigating. And when I say inadequate, I mean in two different ways. Both in the way in which his report was spun, massaged, and in my view, misconstrued by the Attorney General and the way in which it was physically presented made it impossible for the American people to have access to it.

Comes just delusional. He was at Politicon as well. I didn't get a chance to see him all, you know, six foot eleven of him. I didn't get a chance to see him, which wouldn't be helpful anyway. I mean, I have just no I just don't think he's a figure worthy of respecter or engagement. I've also never met I loved all those stories from the media back to the day about how people in the FBI were crying when Comy was fired. I really mean this. I have never met a human being who worked with James Comey

or knows James Comey who likes him. And I've met a lot of people who worked with him or know him, never met one who liked him. Now, I'm not saying that there's nobody out there likes and clearly Patrick Fitzgerald, who's also a very scummy guy, likes him. But I've never been anybody who's like, yeah, he's great, really solid dude. Nobody says it about him. Yet he's running around telling us I'm serious, he said this is Politicon. If Trump wins,

he's moving to New Zealand. One can only hope James Comy, One can only hope welcome back to the Buck Sexton Show. Here, I am trying to tell you guys about the Bernie Sanders Plan for your healthcare, which is also really the Elizabeth Warren plan for your healthcare, which is incorrectly termed Medicare for All. It is not Medicare. It is in fact more expensive, more expansive than even Medicare is. Medicare is an entitled the people pay into over their lives.

Medicare is like Social Security in a sense, but for your healthcare. Unfortunately, and I know people don't like to hear this, most Medicare beneficiaries take out over their life cycle twice as much as they put in, which is why Medicare keeps blowing a huge hole in the deficit year in and year out. But at least there is that component of paying into it over time. And then also there is call sharing. There are plans that you can buy Medicare advantage, for example, which is through private

insurers that deal with what's not covered under Medicare. But you have call sharing states kicking money for Medicare too, So it's not just you go to a doctor and there's never a bill. What Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren and some of the other Democrats are promising is you go to the doctor or the er, the hospital, whatever your healthcare situation is, you go there. There's never a bill. This is crazy. Not even Canada, for example, Hello Canada.

Not even Canada has a system that covers that much. Canada. If you want dental or vision insurance, guess vision care, you have to buy a private insurance or go see private practitioners. They don't cover all that. There are some areas where, for example, you would have to do it on your own. And we know Canadians when they want open heart surgery or there are certain procedures that they'll leave Canada and come to America for it's through the

National Health Service in the UK as well. I don't want to be the one who has to say this, but you see some European countries, Americans generally have better dental care. I'm just gonna say it. It's still true. I think it was the Simpsons that one had the British Book of Bad Smiles or something. They had this whole thing about. Because dental care in European countries is generally not all European countries, but in some of the major ones where there's socialist healthcare. It's not as good

as this yere in America. Why because the market matters, My friends, how many of you would think that it would be easy to get really excellent people have lasic surgery, for example, We'll Medicare for all cover you or lasic. And is that just the way it's gonna be. Everyone's gonna have a surgery that runs thousands and thousands of dollars that's elective. Well, it's a great surgery, and a lot of people have had it. No one really answers any of these questions. They don't even know how they're

gonna pay for this. Elizabeth Warren's like, I have a plan for this. I have a plan. We ask, well, what's the plan to pay for this? She goes, oh, oh, well, you know when your daddy always says, two toads jumping around the back of a barn turns into a ham sandwich. I don't know how that happens, but you know, part of these Elizabeth Warren truth telling moments, she just like

makes up how folksy she is. She's so folksy. He's waiting for Elizabeth Warren one day to show up and pull out a banjo and just be like, hey, everybody, I come from Oklahoma. I went to all these fancy schools as a fake Native American. But I'm just want to you and the rich wanna take everything away from you. Do play in the banjo. Elizabeth Warren is for Medicare

for all. Bertie Sanders and Medicare for all. You have all these different democrats who pretend that this is going to work, And the problem is there are a lot of very ignorant people out there who don't understand. Forgetting there's two ways to attack why a medicare for all? I mean, I mean in the broadest sense, the history of central planning and socialism, and then the mechanisms of central planning and socialism. Now on the history side, what you'll get into is often what I think you could

call the Venezuela vers Venezuela versus Sweden debate. We say, look at Venezuela. They say, well, look at Sweden. Even though Sweden actually is was getting much poorer the more socialists it got, and then it turned around became much more free market. It does have very high taxes and a large social welfare state, but most Swedes, by the way, are happy living a very boxed in middle class lifestyle.

A lot of Americans would like the opportunity to grow wealth over time and leave their children better than they were. Swedes aren't leaving their children better than they were, leaving their children the same way they were. That's the plan. We have a different approach to life. We have a more aspirational vision for our day to day. Swedes just

don't have that. Venezuela, the vision would be, can we have bread on the shelves and clean water to drink and not be living in this dystopian nightmare brought on by the desire or the central government Venezuela and Caracas to institute all kinds of economic reforms based in rooted in social justice, in socialism. So that's one. But the history of what has happened so far is illustrative of the problem. But only if you're willing to be honest about it. Then you just have the mechanisms of it.

Why who will set the price for your surgery under Medicare for All? Who will determine what doctors you can see under Medicare for All? And and who tells you that there will not be restrictions placed does not understand how the world works. There are some doctors who have great reputations and work for facilities that are renowned. There are some doctors who went to medical school in the South Pacific somewhere in a place no one's ever heard of, and I would not personally choose to go under the

knife with them, will dig it. It's not hard in the Internet era to figure out who is who guess what people all gonna want to go to the best surgeon. Who determines whether you go to the best surgeon or not. It's not going to be the market price. It's going to be the government. How long will that wait time be? In fact, the best place to get sports medicine surgery down here in New York City is called HSS Hospital

for Special Surgery. And I remember when I was thinking about having a major surgery there on my ankle, which I never did, which some of you have noticed who have met me. I kind of not really limp, but I kind of have an uneven gait. I walk a little strangely because of the blown out tendons in my right foot. I don't worry. I could still like crush libs and everything, but I do have a you know, like everybody, I've got a little bit of an issue.

We've all got stuff. I remember looking at the different hospitals, there was one guy. Of all the surgeons at the hospital for special surgery, but they're doing there are surgeries. There was one guy who at that time would have taken my insurance and the weight and this is private insurance, and the way to see him was I think six maybe nine months, there was only one surgeon on staff.

The rest of them didn't take my insurance. In fact, a lot of them didn't take any insurance, so you'd have the only way you could see them is either you pay out a pocket or you have out of network benefits, which is always a whole I mean, you know, good luck with that, but that already exists here. And imagine if now, instead of that system, what you have was just everyone everyone's the same, everyone gets the same. The government sends the check, so who determines who gets

to see what doctor? Well, get ready to wait a very long time. And then when the costs are going up and up and up, because people are gonna want to see the best doctors that I want the best care, how are they going to limit those costs so they don't just completely destroy the economy rationing. This is guaranteed, it's guaranteed it happens right now. I had people come up with me after this debate who are from the

who had dealt with the VA system. They said, some people in the view, you know, some VA facilities are pretty good, some are terrible, but by and large, it's not really working the way it's supposed to work. And I bring this up just because, well because we're talking

about healthcare. But fifty percent of millennials, according to Axios Today and fifty one percent of Generation Z have a somewhat or very unfavorable view of capitalism, and seventy percent of millennials say that they would vote for a socialist Seventy percent of millennials say they would vote for socialism. I mean, that's just it's just stunning. It's stunning, and there's such a lack of I mean, I really feel like it's a lack of gratitude for what capitalism has

done for so many of us. I mean, this system. Oh and this is another one that came out of this survey. One in three millennials sees communism favorably. Now we start to get into the definitional separation between communism and socialism. Socialism is a system of central planning with the rediscrution of wealth at the government at the hands of the government. Communism involves a revolutionary elite seizing or taking power in some capacity and then instituting a radical

form of across the board. Pure socialism, where the government controls the means of production as well as the means of distribution and there's a central committee or a central party in charge of all of this is non democratic. It's just the people in charge of the people in charge, and it's a dictatorship of committee. In some cases just becomes a dictatorship of one, as we've seen in plenty of communist countries around the world. One in three millennials

have it a favorable view of communism. I have to wonder if this is the case. Is it because they're too stupid to know what communism is? Is that? Does that make me feel better? Or is it preferable that they know what communism is but are so deluded that they think that it just wasn't done the right way. That's always the excuse. Wasn't done the right way there's a good way to do communism. I would like to know where has you know, it's one thing to say

socialism everywhere has been tried, has failed. It's true, but they'll cover it up with saying, oh, but look at this socialist country or that socialist program that hasn't destroyed everything. Well, it doesn't destroy everything, but it hasn't been a good idea. Name the place where communism has been tried and has

not failed. I mean other than CNN, but like, name a place where it's really been the government, the governing system that hasn't resulted in an economic deprivation and catastrophe. It doesn't exist. We don't. We don't learn the lesson. We don't learn the lesson. I mean, Bernie Sanders should not be taken seriously as a political candidate by anybody who knows history or economics. And yet he's number two I think right now most of the polls or three.

He's top three for sure. And Elizabeth Warren is really Bernie Sanders, just with a little bit less craziness that doesn't make me feel good about things, that doesn't make me think that the future of this country is going to be bright. If either of those candidates were to become the next president United States, which then, of course brings us to Joe Biden, great hope of the Democrats.

Still to this day, I don't understand how he's been able to cling to this this lead in the polls, although it's evaporated and Warren is beating him in some places, but the fact that he is still probably to be considered in a polling sense, the front runner him though his money situation has gotten very tight. Joe Biden tells us a lot about the Democratic Party today versus where

it was before. It's clearly gone further to the left, which is why Biden has been abandoning a lot of his more centrist positions of the past in order to be more far left. But Biden's got bigger problems even than just his positioning on issues the Democratic Party has had Jack Kennedy, Bill Clinton, Barack Obama. This is your third run for it? Why Joe Biden? Well, because I think, as I said, there we need somebody who on day one knows exactly what to do, can command the world stage.

No one wonders whether I know a great deal about these issues and foreign policy and domestic policy there's things I've done, and that might be one of the criticisms too, that you're offering essentially four more years of a Obama like administration. Well, let me tell you something. I love the fact that all of a sudden, the Democratic Party doesn't think Obama was that great a president. I find that fascinated some of us. Why hasn't President Obama endorsed you?

You guys served together for eight years? Because I have to, I want to earn this on my own. Did he offer to endorse you? No, we didn't even get there. I asked him not to be said, Okay, I think it's better. I think he thinks it's better for me. I have no doubt when I'm the nominee, he'll be out the campaign trail for me. Does anyone believe that? Well? Actually, can we start with the no one his quote that no one were whether or questions whether he knows a

lot about all this stuff? I do. I'm sitting here raising my hand. I question whether he knows a lot about anything other than playing golf and charging too much money for speeches and letting his his son make a lot of money because he's related to the Vice president. I don't know what Joe Biden thinks. He knows a lot about, but I've never seen any evidence of it. Going back to that line from a Reagan's I think it was from Reagan's diary that he was a pure demagogue,

a politician. Joe Biden was a politician, and all is a politician all the worst ways that one thinks of that term. Just says whatever he has to say, whenever he has to say it. But the lack of an Obama endorsement, I think that this is particularly interesting. His claim that, oh, he would be endorsed by Obama. Oh, he totally would be endorsed by Obama, but he didn't want that. He didn't want to be endorsed by Barack Obama. I'm just gonna let you make your own determinations whether

you think that that's accurate or not. I think that it's pretty clear, pretty clear to me at least, that no serious person would believe that, and not even just that that Obama was unwilling when Biden was getting trashed by Kamala Harris, who has had a deeply disappointing for a lot of media libs out there, deeply disappointing presidential run, but that Joe Biden was getting attacked essentially for being a racist after having been the vice president to the

first black president in this country for eight years, and Obama didn't feel they need to stay a word for him. Obama has said more in defense of the Prime Minister of Canada, who wore blackface so many times he can't even remember then he has ever said since in this election cycle defense of Joe Biden. So Biden got that problem. Joe Biden was asked though, about these about the gaffs that Joe Biden has and whether they're indicative of something

bigger going on here. Play clip too. You've made in a number of gaffs in the debates. In the October debate, you confused Syria with Iraq. In the September debate, you conflated Iraq and Afghanistan. When you're watching these debates, do you worry about the gaffs? No? I don't worry about the gaffs. And you know what, the American people know who Joe Biden is. I mean, if he misspeaks one word, they don't, that doesn't affect the way they're going to

vote one way or the other. I've heard from people that Joe Biden is actually a very very nice person, lovely person. So I'll just say that because I have heard that from people who would know. So good for Joe Biden making a good choice there. But the gaffs are more than just the mistakes. It is this guy really Is he foggy upstairs? That's really what people are getting at. And as I've said, Liberals open the door to this with all their Trump is crazy twenty fifth Amendment,

Trump is mentally mentally ill twenty fifth Amendment. Joe Biden is old. It seems old, and does not seem like he has a full command of his own intellectual faculties all the time. Seems like sometimes he zones in and out. We're gonna sign up to have this guy be president for possibly eight years. At what stage of this can we start to say that it's just narcissism for Joe Biden. Speaking of narcissism, you see that an advisor to Hillary Clinton said over the weekend that she believes that she

was put on this earth to be president. I believe that that is true of Hillary Clinton, that she does believe that she was put on this earth to be president. I also believe that Hillary Clinton is narcissistic and kind of crazy. I think that the not being president thing has affected her in ways that we are still just figuring out now that she's speaking out publicly, and that the media handlers and all this, there's not as much of an investment in perpetuating this mythology of Hillary Clinton

the brilliant tactician who understands everything and understands what's going on. No, I think that people now see that Hillary Clinton was what I've known her and many of you have known her to be all along, which is a grasping grifter who really just looks to advance herself and pretends to do so for some loftier principle that really has no interest in anything other than the greatness and wealth personal

wealth of Hillary Clinton and her immediate family. But Joe Biden still still clinging to some frontrunner status despite his obvious limitations and just also lack of why why should it be Joe Biden? Even Joe Biden kenned a tremble for my country, knowing how difficult it has become for us to stand together as a nation right now, knowing that we are living amid a crisis of belonging in the United States of America. Right now, we're in the

midst of a crisis. May Or Pete there says a crisis that I think we all are supposed to believe is of Donald Trump's making. What is the Democrats answer to this? In what way do Democrats really propose to bring us together to force us to all pay into increasingly massive government coffers? Is socialism really is supposed to be the answer? How do Democrats proposed to inspire us

and to bring us together as one people. I think it's also worth noting that the differences between left and right now feel like they are reaching irreconcilable difference status, that we have a level of separation in our culture, even within America, between left and right that seems like maybe it's not all that fixable. Sometimes I wish I could say that wasn't the case, but I do think

it can be the case. But the living in a crisis line that we hear from so many Democrats, I do have to ask, when are we not hearing about a crisis from them? Everything is a crisis. I saw over the weekend there was there are more of these terrible fires going on in California, and Democrats they make it. They'll make an immediate leap online from a fire in California to climate change to Trump. It's just that's immediately something. There's a big forest fire going on California, climate change

Trump right away that that's where it goes. It's never maybe there's a forest fire because there's a fire, or even beyond that, maybe because they don't do enough forestry in California anymore because of environmentalists concerns to help clear out underbrush and prevent the immediate circumstances that can be much more likely to result in a catastrophic fire. No,

everything becomes political right away. There's this immediate leap to and not just political, but an effort to bash Trump because we are living in a state of alleged crises and there's never any Wait a second, was that really a crisis? I just saw the weekend again that there was a they're doing stories again about polar bears drowning. I think we're hearing about that again now, Oh, the

polar bears, the ice caps are melting. You haven't heard about that for about ten or fifteen years because it didn't happen, but they kept saying it's going to happen. And now we're hearing about the we've got twelve years or ten years or eight years or whatever it is before we crossed the point of no return, and then climate change will come for us. All. I think we're getting numb to fake crises, and that worries me because we could face a real crisis as a country at

some point in the future. There could well come a time when there's something that all of us would have to admit is a crisis. I do worry, for example, about the future of the US confronting China. China's got a much larger population, it has a much more clear, I believe, strategic plan in mind to take down the United States. And here's for example, this is what this is still what Joe Biden. Not to bring this back to Biden, but producer Mark, would you please play a

clip four. Here's the deal everybody talks about. Biden says that China, if we do we have to do, China is not a problem. Look, China is in real trouble. Man. I spent a lot of time with Shijing King. I spent more time within than any world leader before I left. Yeah, China is the one that's got all the problems. Joe Biden. It also said that China is not a problem in the past, and he's not backing away from that. Still, that's the strategic leaders. That's a strategic leaders that you

want to be in place. The guy who can't see the rise of China as a threat. I mean, that's a crisis. The opioids in this country are a crisis. I think what's happening in Mexico right now is at least the early indicators of a possible real crisis on our southern border. After that takeover of a city by cartel members in Kulia Khan, after they had seized Ovideo Guzman, the son of El Chapo Guzman, and the president Lopez Obrador decided that he would be released. That's scary stuff, right.

I mean, we're talking about crist there's real crisis out there, and the focus on the from the left on fake crisis, and I really will come in the climate change is the fake crisis. It's just not a crisis. We can sit around to talk to this all day. It's not

a crisis. But the focus on this takes away not only energy and resources from real problems, but it makes the discussion so there's so much noise, so much overheated, nonsensical rhetoric about things that for people that are trying to live their lives and just do what they need to do, I'm sure it can feel like, well, how do I tell one crisis from another? And maybe we should just have other people be in charge of all

this stuff. Maybe I should vote for the people that promise that the government's going to make all the crises go a wait. Government creates some of the crises we're facing. The government makes some of them worse. But we are like the debt, and I wonder tut a crisis no one cares anymore. I came into conservative media when the Tea Party was basically at its well a year after it was really at its absolute height. The Tea Party was such a powerful force, and people were very concerned

and talking about the debt. None of that has changed, except it's gotten a lot worse. All of the arguments, all the things that were being said then about what would happen are still very much applicable today. The only real difference, you real the distinction is that we are much deeper in debt now than we were in twenty ten,

and we're not hearing anybody talk about it. And you know, it's it's a shame, I think right now in conservative media, if you did a and many people who have radio shows and TV shows, they're obsessed with the ratings all the time, so they look at every segment and everything that happens, and they'll say whatever, whatever does well, they'll just say more of and whatever doesn't do well, it doesn't matter what they think. They won't say that. There are a lot of hosts out there. That's how they

run their shows. And I'm pretty sure right now, if you talk about the debt, people just go map, don't care. It feels very strange because ten years ago, if you're talking about the debt, when it was much less than it is now, people were worried about the future of this country. They thought it was an existential threat to our economy and therefore the American way of life and the American experiment that's all gone away. So Pte may

or Pete's talking about a crisis that doesn't exist. Meanwhile, a crisis crises that do exist feel if they're getting larger and worse around us. And we can't even agree on what's a crisis as a country, So how can we even begin to think that there will be the basis is for real action about any of this when we can't even decide what requires action. That's my concern for us going forward. That's where I think we've started to really run into some issues we are going to

and the issues that are only gonna get worse. But without my friends, it's all gonna be fine. Just keep listening to the buck Sexton Show and tell us some friends about us. They listened to roll calls up. The show ain't over yet, folks, keeping it real, It's time for roll call Facebook dot com slash buck Sexton for roll call time or Team Bucket. iHeartMedia dot com again. Thanks to all. Team Bucket came out to Nashville to Politicon over the weekend. Great to see you and enjoy

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much barbeue. The problem I have when I go to really good barbecue place, same thing with Heart eight and Dallas, or the problem with with the best barbecue places I've been to is I always want to eat more, you know, and you can really only handle so much of that stuff before you've really got to tap out. I'm producer Mark. Did you are you up on the baseball stud that the World Series that is apparently happening right now? Is there anything of note for our audience you want to share?

What do you mean of note? Like? Is this a good World Series? I've seen some people complaining the last night's game. Yeah, it's been eight one and then seven one. Of course it's boring. It's baseball, folks. What do you expect? Actually, surprisingly it has been the lowest rated World Series in a long time. Well that surprised me at all. You know, if you want to spend nine hours drinking looking at something from Afar, just go hang out by the train

tracks somewhere. It'll be free. What baseball game are you going through that takes nine hours? I don't know. Baseball it takes forever. Man, does it takes the same amount of time? As a football or hockey game, except there's not as much happen. Except football is amazing, says the person who doesn't know who's sake one Barkley. Well, I mean it's a busy year, man. We're launching the show in here. Yeah, sure, all right, let's get to Facebook,

Facebook dot com slash buck Sexton. This one comes from Douglas Buck. Does this sound like CNN News aim to have effect on the broad masses, concentration on a few points, constant repetition of those points, framing of the issues in disputable one sided. I bet you know where that's from. I'll tell you If not. No, I mean, is this like propaganda from World War two or something. I don't know what that is, but let me know Douglas when you're writing again. But yeah, it just sounds like a

definition of propaganda, which CNN certainly is. But is that Jeff right shield hie Buck. Just listen to podcast from week regarding Hillary and something came to mind. You may have already mentioned this, but I don't recall hearing it in the media. The next time we're lectured about why the electoral college should be removed from popular vote should

be implemented. Please remind them that Hillary beat Obama in the popular vote during the two thousand and eight Democratic primary, and the majority of them had no issue with Obama being the nominee. I gotta take your word for that, because I actually don't remember if that's true or not. But if that's true, that's a very a very interesting, very interesting point. Let's see here, Linda rights. Hey, I was watching Pluto TV the first in Hawaii, and there

you are. I'm intrigue. Don't know much about apple pop, but we'll look around. You sound like a man with a mind, and coming from a grandma, you're kind of hot. Best wishes, Linda, Thanks, Linda, I'll take it. I'll take it, you know, take a reck, get it. That was good to it. Don't no producer Mark now now we don't. We don't need to hear to say anything. Okay, all right, just so many gotta hit the mute button on producer

Mark over here right now. You're busy. Make sure the podcast goes out with all the cool things that the social media things you do. Do those things peep on social media? Love when I mock you? So wow? That's that true? That too? Or true? Both of those things. James, I think the left is on a mission to destroy this country for their own personal beliefs. And the Bible

says is right, they will say is wrong. James. I'll just leave that to you, my friend, and let's see here, Rick right, Buck, I'm a longtime listener who just upgraded to Mac operating system Catalina. It's a long story, but Catalina makes moving podcasts onto my iPod very cumbersome. Is there a location or a way to download your show as an MP three file? This would simplify copying them onto my iPod? Ruster, Mark, I don't know. I'm not a hun sure, but I feel like if you go

on bucksexon dot com you might be able to download it. Okay, I could double check in on that though. Yeah, I mean let's say that that's uh, we'll try that and see if that works. Because I have no ideas, we'll just go with whatever producer Mark says. That certainly works for me. Douglas, can you give me an example of an agreement that is not quid pro quo? Uh? Okay? I mean, well, Douglas, Yeah, sure, Like if I if I agree to write your son a recommendation for college.

And I do that, that's not and that's not a quid pro quo. Right, So that's there you go. There's an example of what's not a quid pro quo. If I do that, though, and of your own accord, you send me a gift on my birthday, which is right around Christmas time, that's still not a quid pro quot. But if you say, hey, Buck, my son a letter of recommendation for are you guys know they don't have to go through the rest of it. You get it.

Philip Rights, I'm guessing this well, this is a photo of a giant trailer that says Team Buck on it, and he wrote, I guess I'm guessing this was not you doing an outside broadcast in Montana today. Yeah, that is. That was not the Team buckmobile. But that's pretty that's pretty badass, actually, I gotta say pretty smart. Can see this photo in the inbox. It's pretty legit well done with a Team Buck Montana. Whatever that is, I'm assuming

it's related to horses or something. John, if you're still in Nashville and anyone anywhere near Morton Steakhouse, I'll buy you a mesical John. Thank you for the offer, my friend. Unfortunately, I am back in New York City. I am not in Nashville. Nashville was a great town. I want to go. I want to go back. I want to go back and check it out for sure, for fun. Um. All right, here we go, Mark rights Hey. Last Friday, a young person wrote into roll Call asking why raising the minimum

wage would be bad. I'll tell you why. I'm scared of it being raised. I'm sixteen years old and I work at a feed store, loading bags of animal feed into cars and stocking the warehouse. I get paid seven fifty an hour for what I do. If they raise the minimum wage to ten dollars, I wouldn't be useful to the company anymore. I'd be let go because there's a limit to how much people are going to pay for each job. So in order to get our wages to go up, we should work hard and work our

way up the line. Government regulation won't help us. We'd lose our jobs and the price for everything we'd go up if we raise it. Thanks Team WHOA WHOA. Mark Margaret's a very good explanation of why raising the minimum wage is just not the panacea. It's a fun word to say, isn't it panacea that everybody says it is? Let's see next peer were Scott Scott rights hey Buck, longtime listener, great admirer. Am I alone and thinking the Drudge Report has swung wildly anti Trump since the impeachment

farce shifted into fifth gear. Love to hear analysis on this and whether and imagine I'm imaging or not, whether Drudge has flipped or if it's just playing the If Trump has impeached, the Democrats lose big in twenty twenty game. Appreciative Scott from New Hampshire. Scott, I have noticed a little bit of a assaultiness from the Drudge Reports in

it's approach to Trump. There's something going on there. Maybe maybe Drudge, who is one of the most secretive but also influential people in conservative media still to this day, maybe he feels like Trump just isn't following through on stuff he needs to fall through. Maybe some of the promises, you know, are maybe he's out enough. Ronnie rides Buck, You have to have dinner in Nashville at rodit Ceo Brazilian grill just off Broadway, almost any kind of meat.

We were just there a couple of weeks ago. Have fun well, Ronnie. Next time, I'll definitely check it out. I will say one night on Saturday night, we went out somewhere on Broadway, and I don't want to name it because I know it's it's a new place to just helped me the food. The food was not that good, but that was our fault because we went somewhere for the live music and not for the I didn't really do my usual deep dive and whether the food would be any good, folks, That's going to be the show

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