"There Is No Second Spike"

Again the buck Sexton Show begins. Analyst, he's a great guy. Now, welcome to buck Sexton Show. Everyone, Thank you so much for being here. My, oh my, I had I had quite a morning. We a lot to get to today. I want to dive into what I have been predicting on this show for a while. Now you knew it would happen, you know, it was just a function of time. The second spike discussion. We went from the second wave now it's a spike because that sounds scarier, just in

time for Trump rallies. Oh what a surprise. Who could have imagined that such a thing would happen. But now I have to tell you I spent my morning listening to the oral arguments in the General Flint case Now this may sound a little bit like, oh, come on, how how interesting could that be? Oh? No, it was fascinating. I was sitting there drinking my black Rifle coffee and listening to the oral arguments in DC at the DC Circuit Court of Appeals, and sure enough, one thing became

very clear. There is no principle or institution that liberals that the left the Democrat are unwilling to tear down. There's no institution or principle they will not destroy for just a few sweet moments of hashtag resistance glory. Doesn't sound like the Flynn case is going to be resolved by the appeals court. I could be wrong on that.

That's a prediction. We'll have to see, but at this stage it doesn't seem to me like that's likely because of what was said in the arguments that were being made. And let's just be clear that to continue the case against Flynn, the libs here in this case, Judge Sullivan is Amycus Buddy former Judge Gleason, and Beth Wilkinson, the

lawyer on behalf of Judge Sullivan. Now you've got lawyers, high you got judges hiring lawyers to make a case for them that the government isn't making the prosecutorial branch and that the defense has already agreed with the government the case should be dropped. But now we're watching a federal judge step in and push for the case to continue on his own. Oh no, they're saying, it's it's

just to get more advice on the situation. This is the abuse of the process, and the process is very much the punishment to continue the case against General Flynn at this stage, the Libs are relying on bad faith, transparently stupid positions, and they're extending a federal prosecution of a man for months after the government has dropped the case, all in order to amuse a judge who has said bizarre things in this case in the past, including accusing

Flynn of treason. And we are supposed to believe that this is not a distortion of Article three the Constitution. No, my friends, the process is the punishment. That is the whole point here. The argument. While a lot of complexity talked about, and there's a lot of sighting of precedent, the argument boils to some of the judges on the appeals quarters saying, well, we should at least allow Sullivan.

There are three judges hearing this. We should at least allow Sullivan the opportunity to do the obviously right thing here in a month, sir, Let's not get too hasty. The clear counter argument to that is, why hasn't he already done the obvious thing, which is the emotion to dismiss should be granted. This case should be done, gaveled over. Flint should walk out a freeman with no conviction on his record. Nothing. Why delay? Oh, because they want to

have the opportunity to poke at the Trump administration. Because the judge here realizes that he'll be vilified by the left, by the Dems, the Libs. Oh my gosh, good heavens, if you were to have Joe Biden win the next election, this judge might find himself on the wrong side of an IRS audit who knows the ways that the Libs will try to exact revenge upon him for not finishing off the case against General Flynn. Let's all remember here, this is a case that is a clear ambush, was

a clear ambush by the f Beyond the DOJ. We have all the evidence we need to come to that conclusion right now. That is what the Department of Justice has said, but this is a recurring theme with the left. If the Supreme Court rules in their favor, it is a sacrosanct institution that is beyond reproach, and anyone who does not see it that way is a terrible person. If the Supreme Court rules against the Libs, maybe we should stack the court. It's it's politicized. Oh, I don't

trust those conservative judges. It's all a sham. And this is the way they are with elections, the whare they are with courts, the way they are with the Department of Justice and its prosecution decisions. The decision of prosecute

can't be changed. Why Oh, because you had a special counsel that determined that General Flynn lied to the FBI in the ambush interview entirely built upon false premises, trying to take out an incoming national security advisor because the Obama administration and the foreign policy fools around him didn't like it, didn't like Flynn, didn't like the Trump won. And now we're seeing the justice system itself at the level of federal judges making a mockery of the whole system.

This is appalling. You're going to continue to drag out a case. It's already been years. You're going to now continue to drag this out even more as a federal judge, after the government has completely within its power and without any evidence of bad faith, without any evidence of corruption that they can point to. The Executive Branch has said, we're not prosecuting this case anymore. This never should have

been brought. And in fact, what they are claiming is that there was injustice initially in bringing the case, and somehow this judge is going to continue with it. I don't think that there is going to be a resolution from the Appeals Court. I think they're going to push it back down to Judge Sullivan and say, let's see what he does. And Judge Sullivan is going to turn the courtroom into a circus of anti Trump arguments and

innuendo and the administration was so wrong here. It's going to allow for all this that they could call witnesses, they can do all kinds of things. They're going to be prosecuting a case without a prosecution. This is kafka esk. I mean, this is insane. I understand, this is just

you look at this, say this is one case. Yeah, but it's It was a strike at the heart of the incoming Trump administration from the cry baby deep state libs who couldn't accept that they lost the election, couldn't accept that Helloa, Hillary wasn't the president of the United States, the fact that the I defoised this intense and rapaciously greedy and dishonest mediocrity upon all of us. Who's really her best political move was marrying and then staying married

to Bill Clinton. We're supposed to believe this woman now should rule the world. It's absurd. But they were so upset about that that even people who were career so called government servants couldn't accept the results of a free and fair election, tens of millions of Americans coming out and casting their vote, couldn't accept it. Had to find a way to try to even the score. Remember, they

were trying to take down the entire Trump administration. They managed to ambush Flynn, but Flynn was just a part of the overall effort to prove that Donald Trump was a traitor and to get him removed from office. The whole point of the Special Counsel was to set up either a criminal charge against the President, which they didn't have, so they said, Oh, we can't criminally charge the president, so we won't make a determination. Isn't that convenient? All

these slimy loyally tricks that have been pulled here. Never it's never about justice, It's never about what's right, what's fair, what's decent. The special counsel across the board a sham. This proceeding against General Flynn appalling, and it's not over yet. You know why. They want to try to humiliate the

Trump administration going into the reelection campaign. They want to try to find a way to claim to give The people that are in the media as as legal experts are really some of the dumbest people I've ever seen in my life. They're actually dumber than the national security experts that I know, who are libs in the media who know nothing, who are astonishingly ignorant and stupid. But they say, you know, they say things that will make

Cooper and Tapper and Cuomo, etc. Nod. Yeah, Yeah, that's right, that's good, good analysis. There. People are abject morons. But the legal expert or even worse, because all they do is view themselves as lawyers for the Democratic Party. They're not giving you legal analysis. They're giving you the DNC talking points of what the law would say if the Democrats could make it up as they're going along. And so that's why so many people are confused here. This

really isn't complicated. There is no good faith reason for a judge to continue this nonsense destruction campaign against General Flynn. There's no reason except to extend it out. Have there be greater degrees of humiliation here. He's appointed at an amicus for what reason? Where is where is the party here that is claiming that there needs to be a prosecution of Flynn. Oh, it's the Washington Post editorial page, It's the New York Times, across the board. I mean,

I was gonna say editorial page. It's it's everyone over at CNN. It's the DC elites. That's who wants a prosecution of Flynn. But that doesn't matter in a judicial proceeding because there's no actual prosecution to speak of. And the executive branch has said no, this should not have happened. We're done here, jud Sullivan saying no, I don't think you're done. I want to you know, I'm demanding that we continue this. And it really is an a Lynskyite

abuse of the process. You know, it's something it's something similar to you know, in sports sometimes they figured out that people can claim unlimited injury timeouts, and then they get abused by people in bad faith. They'll say, oh, you know, the momentum has gone against them. And this happens in tennis, and so people say, oh, you know, my foot really hurts, we need to take a break, and then the momentum turns against them again. Yeah, you know,

my foot really hurts again. I mean, this is what is happening in a federal court involving the prosecution of a three star general and the former short term national security advisor to the current administration. They're just abusing the rules. Everyone can see it. There's no real reason to continue this because there's no prosecution, because they're never show have been a prosecution, and listening to the arguments being made, it's absurd. It's all just hold on, let's not gonna

let's just give this more time. There's no harm here, give it more time, extend this up. No harm. Flynn has been bankrupted, Flynn has been ruined, and this is all about trying to keep open a door for the attacks against the Trump administration through claiming that Attorney General Bill Barr, who has already been the Attorney general in a previous Republican administration, the guy's a world class lawyer, and they're all going to pretend that he's been compromised

or something. I mean, it's just these people are shrill maniacs, you know. I really I didn't think I'd get to the point where there's not even a good argument to be made on the other side, and therefore I just disrespect people openly who try to make the argument there is no good faith case to be made here. But it goes actually to our current moment with the movement such as it is right now out there with COVID

nineteen lockdowns. It's not about good faith anymore. We are entering a period of absolute bare knuckle fighting overpower, and people on the left the Democratic Party, will do anything to achieve the power that they seek, and they will pay any price to get there. It does not matter to them, doesn't matter who they ruin, what they do to the country. Everything is open to them now. They have no dignity or principles to protect. They'll do whatever

they have to do. Look at Nancy Pelosi, yeah, she'll she'll kneel with a Kente scarf around her neck, you know, every day until the election. If it means the Democrats win. There's no there's no amount of humiliation, there's no amount of dishonesty, there's no amount of self debasement. The Democrats won't engage in and destruction of institutions and sacred norms and things that they always claim Trump is guilty of.

They themselves are guilty of. They themselves have done things that are clearly just the expression of political outrage, have nothing to do, nothing whatsoever to do with the sanctity of our democracy or protecting our system or anything else. So the flint case is very much an emblem, it's a symbol, it's a centerpiece of all of these other dynamics that are playing out all around us. They don't care about equal justice, they don't care about justice at all.

They don't like something. They want something to be their way. That is the only thought process the Democratic Party currently goes through. This bad that good, I want do it my way. You'll notice that the ideology of the mob is very similar to and sounds very much like the ideology of a spoiled child. That's really what the Democratic Party has turned into. A spoiled child that throws tantrums, that does not want any of the other children to have the same cookie, that does not want any other

children to play by the same rules. They want what they want, and if they don't get it, they're going to scream and kick and hit people around them. That is the Democratic Party of today. You're in the Freedom Hearty. This is the Buck Sex and Show podcast. This legislation, the Heroes Act, says let's open the economy. We all agree we want to do that. Let's open the economy. Let's have our children be able to go back to school safely, safely. We don't have a vaccine and we

don't have a therapy. God willing we will soon, and we hope and pray that science will be an answer to our prayers in that regard. However, we do have a path. Testing. Testing, testing, there's one word we should all be saying over and over again. Testing testing. We're not even close to what we should be doing on a daily basis. The scientist academics all over the country are preaching this, but the White House has not responded.

Too late, Nancy, too late, for this. I'm sorry, We're not going to play this game now where we pretend that we can't all see exactly what's going on here. All of a sudden, the protests have have unleashed their full fury on the streets of the United States over one hundred and twenty cities. Massive protests, rioting, looting, violence,

police stations, destroyed buildings, burnt out. That's happened. And then we turn around and say, well, hold on a minute, now, we're going to start getting lectures about how we need more testing after all the abandonment of social distancing that had occurred in the last two weeks, thousands upon thousands of people in very close quarters for hours and hours on end, and you know, yeah, most of them were on the younger side. I'm sure a lot of that

family members they've gone back to. I'm sure there are plenty of people they're sharing homes with. And I'm not going to make jokes about them all living in parents' basements, but there probably are some who live in their parents' basements and are putting those who are at the higher age or in the higher age brackets at risk from this. Assuming that outdoor spread is a risk, which I don't think it is, but they are now saying it is

because they got the excuse for two weeks. They were able to get a dispensation from the media and Vouchie who's like yo in the mitigation way to go, oh, we lost it for two weeks, but we got it now back for two more weeks. Now, all of a sudden, we're gonna start hearing about testing testing. We don't use the testing capacity that currently exists. And guess what, We're not going to be able to tell people that they all have to get tested every two weeks so that

Nancy Pelosi doesn't freak out about it. That's just not going to happen. What have I been telling you about test and trace and all this other stuff. But the panic that is starting right now is a politicized panic about the second wave. I'm telling you, I've been telling us all along. We're gonna be all right from a disease standpoint, but the political response to this could be catastrophic.

Thanks for listening to the Busts and Show podcasts. Remember to subscribe on Apple podcasts, the iHeartRadio app, or wherever you get your podcasts. Get ready for the second wave. That's what they're telling you. Georgia has been open for weeks and weeks Texas, these places that have been opened, and they are going to do everything they can. You've

already seen this reflected in the stock market. There was a big stock market rally that then got turned completely around because the media started with this anak of oh my gosh, there's there's a second wave that is here. And they've been saying every two weeks for the last six to eight weeks, just wait, two more weeks, there's gonna be a wave, Just wait two moorks. Let me explain to you why we should not believe them now. This is it's a different thing to say the disease

is still out there. Yes, of course it is that there are still people who are getting it. There are still people who are getting hospitalized, There are still people who are dying from it, but the numbers are dramatically lower than they were a few months ago. We have gotten a bit better, according to doctors that I've been speaking to about treating it. That doesn't mean we have a real therapeutic, but we have gotten better at treating

it as a general matter. And also because we're in the summer months now, upper respiratory diseases are less than they are during the winter months. We know this from just life year and year out. Colds and flu, When does that happen? You know, you go to your drug store, when are you picking up cold and flu medicine? Not a lot of you are doing that in July. I'm not saying it's impossible, but it's rare. It's rare. But now we see, Oh, okay, we're supposed to do what exactly?

Continue drag through Oh that's right, we're back to this. Now, let's drag through more lockdowns. Let's let's have this continue on where we can't live our lives. Our economy goes comes to a screeching halt again, and it's all just constrained. They want us to be on economic life support, but the federal government funneling cash to us because they understand

that that is advantageous for politics. There's nothing they won't do, my friends, the only thing that holds the left back is what will help us, you know, and what are they able to do. That's it, there's no more. There's no morality, there's no shared sense of decency that is holding them back. In a political sense, from doing anything, or from saying anything, from making any claim. They've completely lost their minds. You know, the old liberals have been defeated.

That's what you're seeing right now. I think it's very important to understand that the old liberalism is now on the way out. This new brand of wokeness, of radicalism. The you know, the Jacobins of the Democratic Party are the ones that are calling the shots. They really can't

control them anymore. They can't tell the young. You know that the twenty five year old who thinks that someone who says anything they don't like can just be accused of basically committing violence, and therefore there's a moral obligation to punish and shut down and destroy that person. Words I don't like equals violence. This is a This is a terrible thing for this country. I mean, this is a recipe for the eradication of freedom entirely. I mean, to live in a subservient state to the will of

the left and the big s state. That's what we are heading for, unless we recognize this for what it is. They told us fifteen days to stop the spread or to flatten the curve. That was what they told us. And now they're telling us, well, it's really going to be more like maybe six months, maybe twelve months, maybe eighteen months, that's what we're looking at. No, now, we didn't sign up for that. I didn't agree to that, my friends, as conservatives, we are going to have to

engage in mass non compliance. Oh, only the left gets to do civil disobedience. I don't think so. If they try to shut us down again in ways that are within our conscience and that are safe, we should say no. We should we should say that we're not going to do that. We should non comply. Those of you who are in positions to defy that authority should defy that authority. It's now become a little active defiance for me every day just to walk outside and to go out in

the building. I live in an apartment building. I don't own it. I don't own I don't own anything. And I don't wear a mask. I go outside without a mask, I come back in without a mask. I don't do it. That's a little active defiance right now, because you're supposed to based on an executive order from the government, from the governor of New York State Cuomo, who's a moron, and A and a bad guy. That's not a legislative act, that's not within his purview to determine. This wouldn't withstand

constitutional scrutiny. And you know, in an emergency, there are certain things that can fly, there are certain things that you're just gonna let go. But this is not an emergency. This is now something that is manageable. This is something that we can deal with. And they're acting like they can just turn on that emergency button again as soon as they want, as soon as we all know this. It is politically useful because they want to have a

means of criticizing the upcoming Trump rallies. Because here's what you're going to see at the Trump rallies. Tens of thousands of people gathered together who support this president, who support his agenda, who believe in law and order, who want the economy to be restored, and who I think have started to get a sense of how endangered freedom

really is in this country. I'm pleased to see that White House Economic Advisor Larry Couldlowe, who I think is just at that stage in life where he's just going to speak the truth and he knows that they're going to come after him with everything they've got, and he knows that the psycholibs can handle anything. They're all really

so emotionally damaged. I mean, that's an observation that we should all have about the woke left and people who believe in this, people who really think that they're changing the world by putting up a black square on their Instagram or do the video, or they're just like, I take responsibility. For long about it? I take responsibility. No, you don't. No responsibility comes with consequence. There's no consequence.

In fact, there's only upside. That's not taking responsibility. That's patting yourself on the back of what a great person you are. Virtue signaling isn't brave. That's why we make fun of it all the time. But Kudlow is at the point now where he doesn't care how emotionally deranged and unstable the left is. He's just going to speak

the truth. So he said earlier today that a second wave of the coronavirus was not descending upon the country, and of course Politico is saying even as cases are spiking in more than a dozen states, Kudlow told Fox and Friends, quote, there's no emergency. There is no second wave. I don't know where that got started on Wall Street. He said. He's not a health expert, but he's spoken with the top public health officials at some length. They're

saying there's no second spike. Let me repeat, there's no second spike. There are so many ways that the media, and I'll walk you through them. I spoke to my new I don't know what we'd call them, comrade, I hate that term, buddy, colleague. I don't know because we don't really know each other. Well, never met him. But Alex Barrenson, who you know, has this book, The Truth The Truths about COVID. I mean, I forget what the exact title is, but if type in Alex Barrenson COVID,

it'll come up for you. I think it's untold Truths about COVID. And we discussed this yesterday and he was saying, look, there are so many ways when you look at the data that it is actively being misrepresented, and you think, who would ever do that? I mean, aren't we all in this together. Aren't we all going through this at the same time. How could anyone be so reckless as

to misrepresent COVID data at this point in time? Aren't we supposed to be using what we know and the numbers as they come in so that we make the best policy decisions and keep people safe while also keeping the economy going. Fortunately, we're past that moral panic of if you think that we need an economy, you just don't care about people dying. No, that is not true. It's just not true. And finally we are past that.

Finally we are at a phase, at a stage where I think that idiocy is no longer able to be a silencing tool against the rest of us. But there is a little bit of an uptick in cases in some major metropolitan areas, and they're going to deal with it, and we know where these things are happening, But there are a lot of ways that data can also be misrepresented.

I want you to be on guard for this. Cases themselves, which just means a positive COVID test, do not mean the disease is getting worse, because there is a direct there's a direct link between how much testing is going on and how many cases there are. Right, if you have a lot of cases in an area, but you had one hundred percent of the area tested, guess what, or even fifty percent of the area tests that are

twenty whatever it may be. But a surge in testing also means there'll be an aggregate, a higher number of actual cases. Another way that the statistics are being abused here, or the numbers as they come in are being abused. If you go into a hospital now for any reason, you're likely to have in most places a COVID nineteen test. I've been tested just from going to the White House,

you know. But people get tested for COVID nineteen frequently, and therefore you have people who are showing up who are asymptomatic, who are getting tested in the hospital, and they may in fact be counted as a COVID case. Right, It depends on how the hospital. There's an incentive in terms of federal dollars. So if someone comes in the hospital, you test them, they're not there because of COVID, but they have COVID. Now are they going to be counted

as a COVID case? You will, certainly for the positive tests, but are they counted as a COVID hospitalization? You dig into this, you start to see it's more complicated, and then just the surge in hospitalizations generally, this is another way that the numbers can be abused. More people can go to hospitals now and use hospitals because and are doing so because they're allowed to for non COVID related things. So just a spike in hospitalization usage alone is meaningless.

In fact, we want that because we want people who are getting elective surgeries done. We want people who are able to go do things, to get chemotherapy treatment and so on and so forth. So don't allow them to get away of this. Oh there's all these states and then results, Oh, pandemonium, just in time for the Trump rallies, just in time for that. It's it's stunning that they're so dishonest. I told you weeks ago they're going to come back with this. You know it. I said it.

I was as clear as day on this show. They're going to resurrect this. We're gonna get ready for it. The fight over the second Wave is coming, and it's going to be nasty and vicious because this is in some ways even more important for their political prospects. If we're allowed to come out of this, if we're allowed to go forward and rebuild the economy and get some momentum going to the election. It's clearly of enormous benefit, not just a trumpet to the Republican Party. And they

know that, so they want to suppress the economy. They want this to continue to be in the back of people's minds going forward, because whatever they have to do, they will do in order to seize power through the ballot box, and that includes perhaps skewing those ballot boxes in their favor as well, something we'll talk more about later. But here's the You know, people are talking about eighteen states reporting an increase in COVID nineteen case counts, spikes

in Arizona, Florida, Texas. Yeah, but if those places, if they've been going down for six weeks and they go up two percent for a week, Oh my gosh, are we all supposed to hide under our beds again. No one said that it's supposed to be at zero. Hospitals are not at risk of being overwhelmed. We should go back to business as usual with precautions in place for those at high risk. That is it. There is no other way. The people who aren't telling you there's another way.

We're gonna test in trace. We've gotta have an army. Fauci says off traces. They got to follow you around. You know, ay, what do you have for breakfast? Did you have wheaties? Did you have special k you know? Oh? Also, did you get to COVID test this morning? You had one yesterday? You need another one and another one. That's where we are trying to create a turnkey totalitarian system for all of us under the guise of public health. Get for it, you're in the freedom Huh. This is

the Buck Sexton Show podcast. What I'm trying to figure out is how we keep people from drownding at the moment. At this moment is for example, we you know, if you're gonna build, we're gonna go back to work. How do we go like, for example, there are no standards how we send kids back to school or daycare, none at all. What are we gonna do? We gotta lay that out now, because how many For example, I think every single solitary person out there who has a child

should have childcare. Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna take this issue that's uh, you know, really complicated and just making about a Democrat agenda item childcare. Yeah, there we go. I thought we're talking about the disease. Now we're talking about everybody needs to have government provided childcare. That that's where we are. Okay, oh, my friends, Biden is look, we're going to get to a point, unfortunately, where it

doesn't matter how dumb. What Biden says is it doesn't matter how out of it, how inept, and how completely incapable of being president. He looks. Democrats don't care. You're not going to change anyone who's voting for Biden. The Democratic Party doesn't care about it and isn't even going to engage on this. They're just going to pretend it's the Emperor has no clothes, and they're all saying, look at that emperor is fantastic suit. It's amazing, it's so special.

That's going to be the Democrats with Biden. That's not going to change. But he says things that are just untrue. And they always talk about how Trump is lying and everything. First of all, Biden as a history of being a big liar on matters that are important, lying about his role in the civil rights movement, lying about meeting Nelson Mandela, or being arrested on the way to meet Nelson Mandela, should say all these different things. But here he's just

saying that there's no plan for reopening schools. That's not true. There's been a plan in place for weeks and the plan is too restrictive. But this is where I think there might finally be some pushback. People need to go and go to their conservatives. We are not mobilized, and that's why I think these Trump rallies are so important. You need to go to your PTA meetings if your kids are in public school, or you need to go meet with the whatever these school authorities are. If your

Catholic school. I don't know whereever it is. I don't have kids, so I don't know how this stuff works. But you need to make sure that your voice is heard that school needs to be opened this fall. This is insane. School should be opened this summer. They should have opened up summer schools. We can shut down the whole economy, but we can't put an extra month or two on the calendar for kids to be in school. Why, says who. It's amazing and here we are. We're back

in this fight again to have our lives back. I mean to reopen the country. We're still in lockdown in New York. We're in phase one of four in New York City. Because the lunatics in charge won't give up control and don't care how much misery they are inducing with their stupidity. And they're all Democrats. Thanks for listening to The Bus Sesson Show podcasts. Remember to subscribe on Apple podcasts, the iHeart Radio app, or wherever you get your podcasts. You really can't make it up. I thought

a joke when I tell you it's poison mystery. Go it's unbelievable. Great again, but try not to die while you're doing it. Okay, it's hashtag make America great again, but you might die and just other people. We're not responsible. Okay, Hey four more years? All right? Oh yeah, I'm sure that morning Joe the the most dishonest, the most dishonest. He's a liberal. I mean, he can say he's a conservative, but he switched teams. He just won't admit it. The

most dishonest person on MSNBC right now. I'm sure that he had a lot of comments mockery for the protesters who were gathering by the thousands and thousands and thousands, and the lack of social distancing that was involved in that. Right. Oh no, if you want to gather together in the streets. Who streets are streets occupied? Oh No, that's a different that's a different moment. They were using that chant, isn't it.

It's almost like this is just the left cyclic in a cyclical fashion, unleashing the insanity that is stored up from the mob. Oh that is kind of what happens, isn't it. People are angry and this becomes the expression of their anger, and all the celebrities and all the institutions all gathered together and talk about how oppressed they are. Meanwhile,

they control so much of society. The left has had so much dominance of the institutions of culture, institutions that create a vast amount of wealth and have a tremendous influence. You know, you go on YouTube, for example, YouTube is constantly biased against conservatives. I mean, I'm dealing with this right now. As we've launched a YouTube channel, they'll just pull stuff down, and you have to go, why is

my stuff being pulled down? I'm doing political commentary. If it's safe for radio and the FCC has no problem, why is it being taken down? Oh? Because it violates our terms of service. And then you got to get into the what's in the terms of service, and turns out that there's something you know about, Oh, we don't want people to feel excluded or unsafe or you know what does that even mean? Whatever the left says it

does they control the platforms. There are conservative billionaires out there, There are people of tremendous influence who see the world in real terms, realistically is how they view them, is how they view the world around them, and they could do something really worthwhile about this. But no, let's just let's give more. Let's give more money to bloated DC think tanks to write policy papers that five people read by accident on the Internet. Let's do more of that.

Let's not actually create a place for real free speech where it actually where it actually happens, and we don't have to worry about well, when they're going to pull the plug on that. You know, I'm seeing all of these, all these people that are going after now this sponsors on Tucker Carlson Show. That's just because he's been effective.

He has been a rallying point for sanity on Fox News night after night in the midst of all this absurdity and chaos and lies, all this deception and anger that is being foisted being jammed down the throats of the American people by the left. Oh I know some of them like it, but a lot of us don't. And Tucker has been willing to speak truth about this while they are always trying to tell us that we have to just sit and get lectured and deal with

all the nonsense. Oh yeah, sure there's riots and destruction of property in the ruining whole neighborhoods, but I mean it's mostly peaceful. The people who say this are disgusting frauds, and they're all over the The media is really one entity now. There's just there's conservative media, which is the opposition party to the media. That's what That's the world that we actually live in. We don't. There's not a left right media. There is the media, and then there

is this little faction known as conservative media. And if you're in that faction, you know, you push back against the dominant paradigm of left wing insanity. That's what ends up happening. But they're going after Tucker Carlson right now and saying that, and they're trying to pull sponsors from him. This is not Tucker's ratings or through the roof the market shows that people want to watch Tucker Carlson's content, but the left tries to use influence and institutions to

shut off the financing for that speech. This is this is how they play the game. This is why Media Matters and Sleeping Giants and these other organizations that all they try to do is deep platform and shut down conservative speech through slander and lies and just the most disgusting gutter tactics imaginable. The people that work for those organizations and the mainstream media entities that use their stuff are just beyond contempt. They're beneath contempt, but they're they're

going after Tucker's show. I'll tell you this, if Tuck Show ever got pulled from Fox, and I think I think Fox understands this, the outcry against it would be it would be deafening, and it would not be it would not be a smart business move, so I hope you know. And also it would be such a signal of the rest of us that, Okay, so no one's safe to have a real discussion anymore about this. We're told about how oppressed the left is and different factions

and different racial identity groups within the left. We're told how oppressed they are, and yet we can't even have a conversation about it without fear of getting destroyed. They can say whatever they want, the left can say if you're if you're on the in the broad spectrum of the left. Look at Al Sharpton, an anti Semite, but he's a black liberal, so he's allowed to get away with that. Right. Al Sharpton, who was a part of a hoax that cost a man his life, doesn't matter.

It doesn't matter. The Twuanna Brawley hoax all swept under the rug. No one cares anymore. Al Sharp then is giving the eulogy at the George Floyd funeral. Al Sharpton has his own show at MSNBC. He's a millionaire, he flies private, and so on and so forth. These are the rules as they are explained to us by reality. They don't they won't admit that these are the rules, but they will tell us that going forward, the rules, such as they are, are are going to be in

constant flux. That we do know. They're going to be changing things on us. They're going to be switching things up. So with that, I also want to tell you this is an example of what happens when you try, when you try to appease the current moment, when you when you do everything you can. And just for the record, I had to if it sounded like I was falling out of my chair there for a second, I got a special visit from Tallula, the French bulldog in my

in my studio. She managed to to come over into the studio space and then she was running around, so I had to pick her up for a second. So apologies for the pitter patter of little little doggy pause on the floor there, but I had to pick her

up for a second. So Lady Antebellum, which they have one song that I am familiar with, they have changed their name to Lady A because just the the you know, the evocative nature, or the the fact that Antebellum, you know, it is referred to the pre Civil War South, just that that reference is now unwoke, it cannot exist. And so they they have decided to change their name to

Lady A. But they've run into a problem. There is a black blues singer, according to Rolling Stone, who for the last twenty years has performed under the name Lady A. And this is just classic Lady A has now said to the new Lady A or said about them. Quote. For them not to even reach out is pure privilege, that's right. Does she really think that they did this knowing. I'm sure they just didn't know about this. You know that this was a mistake. They don't want them to

be brand conflation or confusion. But another you know, you change your name so that the the woke crowd won't be mad at you anymore, and you fall into yet another another problem with the woke crowd. That that is the classic moment that we are in right now. They're you know, they're they're going after Columbus statues all over the I think the third Columbus statue has now been toppled. And look, I think I think that we're just we need to understand that they're coming for the founding fathers.

I mean, there's going to be a movement. It's just a matter of time. To rename I don't just mean monuments. I mean to rename cities. I mean to rename memorials. I mean to rename it all. Think about how much that will that will involve, and you you'd have to ask if they don't do that, why, given what we're

seeing about about Columbus. They're establishing rules now that people that are in our culture that are a part of the you know, of American history and the American story, that are judged by twenty twenty standards to have been a moral and wrong and engage in bad behaviors of all kinds, that they have to be purged from public view and can no longer be celebrated for one aspect of what they did. The totality of the person is

up for public debate. In that kind of environment, you'd have to you'd have to ask, Okay, who are we allowed to revere? Who are we allowed to hold up and cherish? So oh, I don't even think I got into what the problem is that Joe Scarborough and Mika because they set me off so much. And I'll have to come back and address that at a moment here. What are they mocking saying? Oh, the rallies are going to cause death. I will address that in just a moment.

You're in the Freedom Hunt. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. Okay, So, why is everyone all of a sudden talking about the death cult of Trump voters, at least in the liberal media. That's what they're suggesting, that's what they're talking about. Well, it's because the Trump campaign has put out a disclaimer, a waiver of sorts that if you're going to get tickets for the Oklahoma rally next week, and look, if I if I could easily get there, I would go. I can promise you that,

no question about it. And if it was possible for me, I would I would go check it out. But I also do think it's important that everyone understand one, we live in a highly litigious society. People sue each other here all the time. If they think there's a payday that they can get to, if they think there's some way that they can, you know, profit off of pretending that they were wronged in some way, even if it's completely up to their own decision making and it was

their own fault, they will do so. But also, I think it's important that the Trump campaign show that yes, there are risks, that yes, if you come out, it is possible you will be exposed to COVID nineteen. And people are able to make the choice as adults as to whether or not they're going to go to the rally. Now, to me, it does seem like it would make sense to hold the rallies whenever possible outside. I would recommend that now, I know, with weather issues that can be

a bit more challenging. But and also perhaps from a Secret Service protection perspective that maybe a nightmare. And I don't I never worked on the secret Service side, so I'm just assuming that that's probably an issue. But people should know that if they are going to these rallies, they're making a decision as adults, They're making an affirmative decision that they are willing to put themselves at some

degree of risk from COVID nineteen. And this is going to be the world that we're living in going forward. When you go into a very crowded place, there might be people that are there, a person or people who are there who have COVID nineteen, and you should take some precautions. And if you are as you're a highly compromised immune system, or if you are over the age of seventy, that is a you know, there's a risk component that you should certainly take into account as you're

doing this. I would also note that this is the kind of stuff that I couldn't even say. You can't even say this on YouTube I'm finding out you can't put up these even handed, honest assessments and analysis of public policy issues because the lockdown consensus is so strong. Now.

It's very much like what we see with climate change, where if you question the orthodoxy, you are screamed at, you are yelled at, you are told that you are a terrible person, and then if you ask for facts to back this all up, you'll be told that just that alone, your request for the information is evidence of your lack of willingness to believe the evidence. So show me the evidence. Is well, you don't even believe evidence

if you're asking that question. And this is the circular is the circular reasoning, This is the absurd way that we are all told to just obey. You know, up in Boston, I think they just declared a public health emergency of racism is a public health emergency? Well, this should set everybody a little bit on edge. Yes racism is bad, and yes racism exists. Right, we always have to go through this this uh, you know, initial preamble, or else you become one of the cancel right right

as if. And I find it honestly degrading to have to always sit around when we're talking about these issues and say, obviously racism is bad, obviously, but if you don't do that, then the cancel culture comes after you. So these are these are ways that they're affecting our national conversation. These are the ways they're making you in your own home talking to people, or you know, in the office, or in any public forum on social media.

If you're engaging, you immediately are on the defensive of well, hold on. Because I don't agree with the leftist orthodoxy in its totality as represented by the Black Lives Matter movement and all of its affiliations, I'm automatically suspect, and therefore I have to say, oh, I'm so sorry about racism. It is terrible, But now can we talk about whether defunding the police is a serious thing to do? Oh, I'm so sorry about the history of racial discrimination in

this country. It is terrible and it is, but now can I talk about what going on today in this particular context. It's this is a power dynamic that we have to do this, and it is you know, it would be a bit like saying, can I discuss, you know, an issue of and we will later in the show discussed JK. Rowling, the author of the Harry Potter series,

and how she's dumbling down. I give her credit. She's a she's a progressive lib and yet she's saying, look, women are real, and to say that being a woman is just a declaration of one's intent to be a woman or something is hurtful and wrong and untrue. And they're coming after her with everything. But before I get into that, if I were speaking about a woman's issue or an issue that an issue of policy that affects women predominantly, I should not have to always say I

am not a misogynist. I do not believe in hurting women for no reason. You know I shouldn't. But that's where we are on issues of race, and that is just a fact. That is where we are as a society. If you want to discuss issues of race and you are not a liberal and you are white, you better start every sentence with racism is bad, even though you're acting on the assumption, and we should all be acting on the assumption that we all agree that racism is bad.

Of course, it is the same way that we would all act under the assumption. As we're having a discussion about women in the workplace, let's say, or about you know, maternity leave policies. Let's do that. If I'm talking about maternity leave policy, I should not have to do some throat clearing or well verse. Let me just say that women are equal to men, and I reject misogyny, and I reject you know, domestic violence. Of course I do. Why Why should I buddy you? Always? You gotta always

put these markers in plays? That just goes to show you how skewed it is not a playing field that is leveled for discussion and open ideas. It is skewed against the right in favor of a leftist orthodoxy that's constantly changing, mind you, But the whole point is to keep us all on defense all the time. Got to be on defense, and then you just get tired of it and you do what they tell you you are supposed to do. Eventually you just submit. And that's that's

really the point of it. So that you know, the Trump rallies I think are going to be very helpful. I think that it's going to be good for people to see Trump doing his thing. I hesitate to even bring this up, but we all know that there's also a lot of politicians who are older, and COVID puts them at higher risk for their age range. So let's remember that any politician who's willing, any politician, including the President United States, who's willing to go out there, is

also taking a risk, and that shouldn't be discounted. We should all understand that we are adults making decisions, and none of us are going to live forever. And there is this thing called COVID nineteen that's out there, that is that is dangerous to people over fifty, particularly dangerous to people over seventy, and we should operate with that framework of understanding. And that's what I think the campaign is doing. So the fact that they're all's like, oh,

it's also funny. Were they making jokes about all the people that might die from the rallies? There were older people in the rallies, as we know from the guy in Buffalo in his seventies who got pushed to the ground. There were older people in the rallies too. Were they making jokes about how screaming I hate Raithism and you know all this other stuff? Is that worth exposing yourself

or perhaps your elderly relatives to COVID nineteen. No jokes about that, because the media is full of stupid frauds like Joe Scarborough. Thanks for listening to The Bus Sesson Show podcasts. Remember to subscribe on Apple podcast at the iHeart Radio app or wherever you get your podcasts. Nos. Not, he doesn't help anything. As a matter of fact, he has the nerve to call anybody a domestic terrorist. He's a domestic terrorist. He's the one who's been impeached for

obstructing justice in this country. He's the one who has friends who are in jail. You know, Roger Stones in jail, Michael Flinn's in jail, Roger Cohen, Michael Cohen is in jail. He's worried about people in Seattle. By the way, if he wants to do something about Seattle, somebody better show him where it is on the map. I doubt that he even knows where it is. Get back in your bunker. Get back in the bunker. He's a domestic terrorist. Get back in your bunker. Where where is that? I'd look?

I mean, if I had ever read a book, I would I would throw it at him. But I'm very upset because he's a terrorist. Now, Look as much fun as it is to do an impression of Joy Behar, which is kind of like a combination of Iago from Aladdin and Doctor Fauci. You know that. As much fun as it is, it is also I think sometimes important because yes, she's a moron for sure, but she's a

multimillionaire TV personality who reflects. I mean, the reason she gets paid so well to do what she does this is because there's a bunch of libs in the corporate media that are, like, yo, Joy Behart really spot on today. I mean, the worst the worst people you'll come across

in life might in fact be TV news executives. But they think that Joy Behar has really got a lot, a lot to add, a lot to say, and she is representative of a pretty widespread point of view, and the point of view is that Trump is basically Hitler, which is where we still are now. Nothing has really changed. They've never thought differently about this president since the very beginning of all this when they were saying that Trump is a fascist, and if anything, now they are more

set in that than ever before. The only options for the left, the only options for the Democrats, would be to admit that Donald Trump was never a fascist and that they were insane in all the things that they were saying, which they will not do. They're not going to do that, or to just double down and say, see it's exactly like we told you, he is a fascist, and find new reason for that now and just keep

going through this. See we were right, he's a and then with time normal people will go hold on a second, he's a fascist because he allowed the states to make their own determinations about a public health matter that was being weaponized from the very beginning by the Democrats against Donald Trump. You're going to say that he's a fascist if you were trying to establish the ultimate justification for complete state control, which is why COVID nineteen has been

an irresistible political tool for the Democrats. Climate change is pretty good. Racism as a national emergencies also pretty good. That allows you to get away with a whole lot of state control right away. But a public health emergency over a pandemic, I mean, this is this is something that the Left that they can't find a better circumstances, They can't find a better way to try and seize control of everything and make you do exactly what they

want you to do. So Bihar's representative of a mentality that as dumb as it is, and as much as she's just like, you know, I hate Trump. He's terrible, He's awful. He's like it's like if Stalin and Hitler had a baby that was ugly, and I saw a photo of it and I was like, that's an ugly baby from Stalin and Hitler. As much as all of that is dumb, there are millions of people across the country and throughout the media that that largely agree with her.

And since we're talking about media consensus, this is this is a montage that is making its way around right now, and I wanted to share this one with you too. Well, if you think you're not racist, you couldn't be right. But in this day and age, that's simply not good enough. What I did wrong in twenty sixteen is I overestimated white people. The biggest terror threat in this country is white men, most of them radicalized right up to the right.

Those white guys, those middle aged, boring, nerdy looking white guys, and white people have been probably woefully late to this conversation. But I'm not willing to let white voters off the hook. Do you believe that the white folks actually care about racial injustice. It doesn't appear that we do. Between the status quo of our society is racism, and it's comfortable for white people. Well, because with white we have had privilege,

even the poorest of us. I said here, as a privileged white woman, I cannot imagine, but I appreciate you educating us. Is there any degree of self self deprecation, self abasement, any degree of groveling? Uh? That that is too much for whiteness. I just want to know, let's get a little philosophical about this. How much apologizing for privilege am I supposed to do? Is this something I have to do every day all the time. Am I allowed to have opinions on race relations in this country?

And am I allowed to have those opinions without always starting out with I apologize? I think the answer is no, I have to. You must first start with the apology, apologizing for what exactly, for being who I am. It is immoral to demand that people apologize, which is a request for forgiveness and an admission of guilt for something that one has done. You know, I cannot apologize for

the first crusade okay. And I know that we go through all this where people want to go into history and be the ones that say, oh, I can't apologize the first shit. I wasn't there. I had no part in it. It had nothing to do with my reality or my existence. But there are people that still want us to be apologizing for things that happened one hundred years ago, two hundred years ago, five hundred years ago, look at look at Christopher columb Us. We're supposed to

be apologizing for this. And I would just like to know if this is now the new standard, where where is it too much? Where are we being asked to

do too much? And does it ever stop? Will we still be apologizing for the same things that we're being told to apologize for now in fifty years, in a hundred years, if we're having a serious philosophical conversation about this country and what it should be trying to achieve, since it is we're told now it is not acceptable that we have law that is blind to race, and that as a society we overwhelmingly view each other as

as equals. I mean, there are racist yes, I know I've never denied that, but ninety nine percent of Americans are not, in fact racist. I know that the lives their heads would all explode, but you know, nine percent of Americans just like people and love their fellow Americans and are trying to go about their lives. And we're all carrying a heavy burden, and we're all doing the best we can. But that's not the country that we're

allowed to live in. We have to live in a country where there's a constant apology made by people who are white to everyone all the time. And I would also want to know why is it just why are we just apologizing to the black community in America under the LIB rules. Under the left's formulation here, we should also always be apologizing to Native Americans. We should be apologizing to Asian Americans for the Japanese interment camps, perhaps

even for the bombing of Hiroshima, Nagasaki. We should be apology. You know, why is it that we limit this? What are the limiting principles? They don't have answers. But it's just too much fun to watch all these white liberals constantly just rubbing their hands. I'm so sorry, I'm so sorry. I take responsibility, I take respond No, I don't. I don't take responsibility. I don't bend the knee, and that's

not going to change. People who are moral and ethical and are people of character understand who they are and will not be swayed by the allegations of the mob that there is a collective guilt that is infused in their in their personhood. No. I reject that. I reject that the media is willingness to bash whiteness and to demand things of white people constantly is appalling. It's immoral.

But I know that they're just going to continue to do what they do because it's good for ratings and it makes white liberals feel superior to the other people on the right who do not agree with them about how we should be approaching these problems. So it's not going to go away. But I would just note that they don't have a real argument to make here, because the moment you start to ask real questions, they just shout and go add hominem and attack you. You're in

the freedom, hud. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. All right, everybody, we are pleased to be joined right now by Senator Marsha Blackburn of the Great It's that of Tennessee Senator, thank you so much for calling in. It is so good to be with you. Thank you so much. All right, let's talk about where we are now getting things up and running across America. First off,

you know, is Tennessee fully open now? And what are you seeing from the federal level as the President says that he won't go into a second lockdown, how how confident are you that that's going to be the case going forward? I have to tell you, Tennesseeans are working hard to make certain we don't have another safer at

home order. They are abiding by all the protocols. They are making certain that they are wearing masks, they are distancing, they are going back to work and safe ways, and employers are doing a terrific job with being certain that theories ppe for all of the employees, that people are

practicing social distancing. And you know, one of the interesting things I found many of them employers have brought people back in different groups and they are having some employees continue to work remotely while they reconfigure office spaces and decide exactly how they're going to handle it. And I think people are being very thoughtful. I have not met anyone who says I want to get COVID or anyone that says I want to give COVID to someone else.

Senator Blackburn, are you confident that all necessary procedures will be in place going forward for these rallies to occur in the most safe and secure fashion possible. I think that for rallies, for sporting events, for concerts, for live venues, you're seeing these groups work together to have conversations with one another and say how do we do that. Do

we want to do a temperature check? Do we want to do a COVID test that is similar to like a breathalyzer or some other way to make a determination if someone does or does not have COVID. So Americans are innovators, they are problem solvers. They're going to find a way to make this happen, to figure out how to keep people safe when they come to their events.

Another component event is that employers want to be sure that they have and also some of these venue and king park owners want to be certain there's liability that if someone gets COVID and they look back where they were a week, two weeks back, if they're not held liable for someone saying, well, we caught COVID while we were in your area, right And Senator, how are we doing with PPE? With funding? Treasury Secretary Manuchein said that there's still plenty of money to be dispersed. I believe

this was yesterday. That there's more, essentially that the government's going to be able to do to help get the economy going and also to put money in the hands of people who have been so negatively affected by this. Where are we right now on PPE and what's the top of your Senate agenda to try to help get

things up and running again. Well, there is money that is still left in the PPP funds, and there is money there that that window is open for businesses until the end of June and then they're going to have until the end of December to spend those funds. Now, one thing that is being discussed right now is do you make some of these funds that are left over available to small businesses that were destroyed during the rioting and looting and property destruction that has taken place over

the last couple of weeks. And a Senator, is there anything else that you think should be done in addition to the current fin the current financial moves from the federal government side, you know something that you would want to see that would either help your home state of Tennessee or just in general be a real boost to the economy. Well, there are three things I think that we should do that really don't cost money but would encourage businesses to get going. Number one is liability protection.

And we hear regularly this is necessary, it is needed. People want to see some form of federal liability protection. That would be a good thing. I tried to address that and get that in place with our Face three bill, but of course our friends across the aisle did not want that, and it came out. So we're working on

it as we look at what comes next. In addition, looking at what we could do with tax credit the money that employers are spending for ppe for their employees, making certain that there is a credit for that, having a payroll tax holiday for both the employer and the employee. Looking at rules and regulations that were not necessary during COVID and saying let's keep those off the books and

not put them back on the books. And now those are three different categories that would be a savings for businesses and also would put more money in the pockets of individuals. But let's say with tax credits, you could have a kempt James tax holiday between now the end of the year, and if your business was adversely impacted by COVID or by the rioting, then you would be able to invest get investors into that business, and when they back their money out, it would come out to

them in contact free or gains tax free. That's the way that you get this economy growing again and get innovators working again. And one more, Senator Blackburn, and we're speaking the Senator Marsha Blackburn from Tennessee. Senator, do you see action on the Republican Senate side that would address the issues right now that are being talked about of police accountability and making law enforcement more effective keeping everyone safe? Is there anything that you want to see happen on

that on that front? Sure, we had already that could. We did twenty first Century Cures in twenty sixteen. We put money in for de escalation training. For mental health and de escalation training, I think is something that would

be important. We want to make certain that our law enforcement officers have the training and equipment equipment that they need to keep community safe and It was disheartening to me to hear our officers and my goodness, we need to be investing more in our police force and not defunding the police. But they would say, you know, we didn't have the training necessary for COVID, or we don't have the training necessary for first response for some of

the drug situations. We don't have the equipment for that, or we don't have the equipment to handle rioting. These are things we need to be certain that they have. They are the first responders when you call nine one one. They are the ones that come to help you, and we want to make certain they're well trained, well requiped, well equipped, because we know they are an integral part of all of our communities. Senator Marsha Blackburn of Tennessee, thank you so much for joining us. All the best,

Thank you, bye bye. Thanks for listening to the bus Ess and Show podcast. Remember to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, the iHeart Radio app, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, everybody, it is Friday, who made it through another week in this crazy year of twenty twenty, which I've got to tell you, twenty twenty, I am not happy with you so far. Twenty nineteen, you kicked ass and we're amazing. Twenty twenty you are upsetting and you need a time out and no soup for you. It's

been not my favorite year so far. I think even Producer Mark would agree. Producer Mark twenty twenty not up to par. Well. I mean, like got married last year, so I kind of have to like twenty nineteen better. There we go. Producer Mark doesn't want to be sleeping on the couch this weekend. He's a smart man. Yeah, twenty nineteen way better. I got to go to Producer Mark's wedding in twenty nineteen, so there we go. Another another check Mark in the twenty nineteen is better box.

But I think we're gonna go I'm with Trump on this one. We're gonna go into the fourth quarter very strong. That's what I think is going to happen. And with that, man, can we tell us a little bit you were able to hear we had a lot of voicemails coming in this week. Yes, people seem collect the voice smails. I was able to get a few that are even worthy of being on the air. Let's do it, Producer Marks kick us off with our audio role call Hi Book it's Roy from Texas. Se time man. Hey, I agree

with you on not bending the knee. I totally agree with that. I'm all shore with you on the mask closeness. I stopped playing that game a long time ago. I'm not going to be elect reside people hanging their buck Love your show, Roy, Thank you so much, my friend. I don't don't bend the knee because you know, there's there's a couple of ways to look at this. I mean, one of them is that you get no benefit from bending the knee because they're not going to forgive you right.

This is a bit like being pulled aside by the Soviet secret police and they're telling you to sign a confession. You get no benefit from signing the confession. So why you know they're gonna send you to They're gonna give you that ten year sentence in Siberia anyway, it doesn't matter. So why why even worry about, right? I mean, why why do what they want you to do? There's no benefit to apologize, And once you've bend the knee, they

just take your head. That's the next move. So you might as well go down fighting and keep your dignity and keep your strength and look, it's it's going to be a continuous thing. I mean, they're not going to go away for a while with these demands, and the language is changing and bands are changing their names. Band Aid I saw as now had a series of band Aid lines released that are more color inclusive. Is what

they're doing now, which you know, I don't care. You can make my band aid bright blue for all I care. I just I don't think this really well, that probably looks like m pro police or something. Right. Oh no, oh, remember the hash there was a hashtag for a while Blue Lives Matter. You'll note that people aren't using it. I think that they're concerned that if they were to put that out there, even people in the media, they

might find themselves getting canceled. They might find that. That's that's now saying if All Lives Matter can get you canceled, as we know it can, blue Lives Matter can certainly get you canceled. So just be aware of that. That is a a change in the discourse, and the left is ascending right now with all this stuff. There are very few people willing to stand up against the mob and speak out against us, all right, Bruce and Mark fireway.

We got another another voicemail roll call. Hey, Buck and Mark. It's John from Dover, Delaware, and I just wanted to call in and tell you guys, I love the show. And I also wanted to mention I've been a long time listener and Mark is a great asset that has been added to the show since I've been listening. I just wanted to mention also to day, you guys were talking about Patrick Healing last night in basketball. It just brought me back to those sneakers if you guys remember them.

There were the thirty three Patrick Healing shoes. Everybody had a pair. Anyhow, man love to show you guys, you're doing a great job. Shield High. Well, thank you so much from calling in. Hey, we got a Delaware listener. Hi, I'm in Delaware. But that's great though. No, we really appreciate a man. And you know, there was something very special you gotta remember back in the nineties, which is when I did watch and went to a lot of

Knicks games. I mean there was one there I think one or two years were my dad split Bruce and Mark is going to fall over in his chair. My dad split season tickets with a buddy of his and you know, my older brother went to I don't know, probably a dozen home games I went to. I'd say

it's maybe three or four. But when we used to go and we were Nicks fans back in the Patrick Ewing era, we would go to these games and you know and eat the cold in the middle hot dogs and stand in the line during the breaks between quarters of like a thousand people trying to get the soggiest cheese covered French fries you could ever find. Brucer mark, what is your stadium food? Like? What is the dream

team of stadium cuisine? See what I did there for you? See, stadium cuisine has gotten so much better over the years, Like especially like at the Metsalma Mets Fans City Field, they have like gourmet food, like I'll get a steak sandwich. I'll get a nice turkey and fresh mozzarella sandwich. And they have so many different like they have barbecue. They have this specialty fry place. This is a million thinker.

You get a baseball game, now, right, what's okay? But of the classic class can only get if you can only get hot dog, pretzel, popcorn, cotton candy. You know in the classics at a baseball game, a sausage and pepper sandwich because you always smell it throughout the park and you want it. That's fair. That's fair. I did back in the day when I didn't know that I couldn't eat gluten, at least or I wasn't was not yet diagnosed as a celiac, I would eat. I love

a hot dog in those buns. Hot dog is great. I mean, you can't go wrong in the hot dog either. Yeah. I mean now, I'd probably get the hot dog and just eat the dog and not the bun. Not you, Tulula, You're my princess um, But yeah, I think I think that would be a way to go. So okay. Oh and Patrick Ewing, I didn't Did you ever have the Patrick Ewing? Do you as talking about the shoes? I know about Air Jordans. Certainly they became a cultural phenomenon.

I think they were out his own shoes too. Yeah, they were a little more popular in New York than they were elsewhere. You know, they Air Jordan's kind of ruled all and still do. Yeah, that makes sense. All right, Well we got another one. Let's do another one. Hey, God, I forgot I just want to let you know that you're not alone out there, Know that there are tons of us out there that are supporting you or appreciate

what you're doing. Here an awesome void that broadcasts across the country by myself and the Constitutionalist and I value our rights over most anything else besides my family and my God. Stoop it up, don't give up. Be a voice of reason in this world. Thank you Chris from Spokane, Washington. Tremendous eloquence and a very appreciated high five for marking me here on the show. So thank you so much

for that. And we certainly appreciate our Washington our Spokene affiliate putting us on the air there so people can hear us. And yeah, we're going to continue to do what we do, even though these days, I mean, it feels lonely in conservative media because even if you're part of the very few places and look, I am thankful that I am able to that conservative talk radio still is influential enough and has it draws enough audience, is powerful enough that you're allowed some free thought in some

free expression. You know, even at Fox, which is a media you know, super platform, you get the sense that people are are already getting a little a little worried about, you know, what they can say, what they can get away with. You know, my I had a friend. I won't even get into it now, but you all know I'm talking about who separated from Fox. And I think

it was just the mob was demanding. I think the mob was demanding in the early days, someone bend the knee, and that's they made someone else bend the knee there. And I did not appreciate it at all. I did not think that that was fair. I did not think that it was just. But corporate corporate mentality now is just to protect profits and not to be free speech platforms, and that that has ramifications all across the media. It really does. And it's it's a tough time to be

in the truth business. It's an easy time to be in the whose streets are streets occupy Wall Street business. It's easy to be a leftist agitator and to go along with this and to try and do the most you know, over the top version of the morning that some of these news anchors I've been going through over George Floyd and you know that you had a fray the mayor in Minneapolis, crying profuse. Frey was acting like he just lost his mom or dad. That's what he

was doing. And if he had lost his mom or dad, I would totally understand it. And there's nothing about it that other than sympathy that I would have. You didn't even know this guy, and you're allowed to say that something is unjust and something is wrong without going into these performative theatrics about it. But this is this is where we are now. People recognize that there is advantage in this movement at this moment, and they're trying to

take advantage of it. Producer Mark, what else we got? Hi, this is Christie from Austin, Texas. I'm listening to you on KLBJ. We would love to have you in Austin. We get plenty of imports from parts of the country and they are going to vote liberal. We need more voices like you here. You're in the top tier of talk radio show host i'ming you're right up there, so good, so enjoyable. Please come to Austin. Well, thank you so much, Christy from KLBJ Austin, and we really appreciate that affiliation

or be on such a great heritage radio station. In Texas. Is that was a real milestone for us on the show, and they've stuck with us and we've we've had a really strong audience there, so that means a lot. And see producer Mark, I think Austin's back in play my friend from the mobile Freedom of Imazza. Florida doesn't still have a little bit of an edge right now, but we now we got people that are telling us Austin

would be good for us. Yes, there was exactly one person who said that, Well, that's one more than we had yesterday. You're right. I'll just I'll just say it. Austin, my older brother has spent a lot of time there. He says he loves it. He says it's got great food, great people. It's just lots of cool stuff going on. It's a really it's a really high quality of life. So now granted our friend, uh, you know, our friend John Cardillo or our friend Dampongino, you know, they would

all be like, Florida's got that too, buddy. And you know, so look Florida or Texas. Who knows how it's going to be. It's a battle for the agents. But at least we got a voice in for Austin, Texas, telling us that we would be welcomed down there. Thank you so much, Christy really appreciate you calling it. It's a very kind and and God bless keep listening to the show. Please do we have another one markers at it for our voicemails? We have plenty. Yeah, all right, hit it.

Let's go. Hey, production book. This is Star from California and I just need to know how can I discuss white privilege with somebody in their twenties who I blew up yesterday at trying to get into a discussion about it. And I need to be able to not get so crazy and just just kind of give them the facts, so I would appreciate it. Thanks, love the show, love your hair, buck Well, thank you Star. Love that you say.

Love the hair. Which now at this point it's I'm trying to I was able to tame it by getting the Snow Princess to cut it for a little while, but now it's reached that point where I probably need to bring in the professionals. You know, it's getting a little out of hand. But I will say on the on the point about how to discuss white privilege, Uh, you know, it Look, it's there's no easy way, and I would say that you start from the premise, start

from basic moral truths, Start from that. You only have sponsibility, and you only have culpability for that which you had the ability to affect, for what you do, for your decision making. Your existence is not a you know, we're not going to allow for this to turn into a new form of original sin being born white. So to apologize for something that's out of your control is inherently someone forcing upon you a something that is not demanded by morality and clear thinking. This is just this is

a political movement. And I think that white privilege you also would have to ask, I mean, there's so many Look, there's a very broad based discussion you could have about this, But with white privilege, you'd also want to ask why in a country where Asian American households have substantially more wealth on average than White American households, do how powerful really is white privilege? Is there Asian American privilege? If not,

why not? And you know, the more you look at the facts and the data, the harder it is to sustain this rhetoric of systemic oppression and to assume that there's always an external there's always an external enemy here. There's always an external force that is preventing, in this case, the African American community from in the aggregate achieving whether it's you know, educational parity, look at testing scores over

over decades. It's there's there's never allowed to be a conversation about family and the breakdown of the family, particularly in urban centers. And that's not no, it's always there is this external force, whiteness, that is working against and holding down the aspirations of the African American community. And even if that is true in part, it cannot be the entire truth. But it is the only part of

the conversation that we're allowed to have. And that's why I think this narrative of white privilege is just damaging to everybody because it's never had. It's never had with open minds and with honesty as the central premise. It's about politics and about control. You're in the freedom. This is the Buck Sex and Show podcast. All right, we

continue on with our this is fun. I like this, Bruce s Mark, Come on, I know you got to spend a lot of time listening to voice messages now, but it's nice that we have the team's voices added to the show in this way. Yes, it's very nice. If we could hire an intern to get the messages from now on though, that'd be great. But would you trust an intern to sift through some of the ones that are a little too spicy? I really wouldn't trust anyone but myself. I think that's with almost any food.

I think that's a good rule to have. Yeah. I feel that way about a lot of things too. But now I trust you. So it's like me and you, and you know, my parents, my siblings. I'm gonna give you a chance to add one more person to that. It's no princess. Yep, good man, thank you. Now, I'm not leaping on the couch this weekend. All right, give me the voicemail. What do you got hey? Book to

Mole from Messor Detroit. Have a question. Every time local and state governments want to try to impose higher taxes, the first thing they pull out of their quiver is, well, if you don't agree to this, we're going to have to cut cut police and fire protection. Now they're using that as as now a good thing. They threaten us with it as a bad thing in order to get us and give them more money. But now they're trying

to convince us as a good thing. It makes no sense, and I'm kind of curious at what you think this is going to look like when ballot box time comes shield time. Thank you for calling in from Detroit. So your question seems to be that usually they threaten us with if if you don't do what we want with municipal funding. This is the fireman first model. That's how people will refer to it. We're going to cut the fire departments and your buildings will burn down, and that's

just the way it's going to be. And usually that's a very effective, if very coercive political position. Now they're saying we're going to defund police. So you're you're pointing out, is this is this contradictory. The answer is yes, which is why they're not going to really defund police. What they'll do is take some police funds and redistributed to community organizers and other either social welfare or just general

welfare programs throughout the throughout cities. But they're not going to defund police because they recognize that that would be catastrophic, so they'll keep saying it, but it won't really happen, and maybe one or two cities will go crazy enough they'll they'll do it. But those one or two cities are going to become the canaries in the coal mine that die very quickly in the cage, so to speak.

I mean, they're they're gonna people are gonna see what happens in those city these and say we don't want to do that. So no, you will not have defunding. And ultimately, the most essential city services are still something that politically will have to be funded by anybody who wants to remain in power, but it might not be funded at the same level and won't be as effective, So that will and then it'll just be a question whether they can, from the narrative perspective, keep people from

understanding who's really responsible for that. Thanks for listening to The Busson Show podcasts. Remember to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, the iHeartRadio app, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, producer Mark, let's get into the other version of Royal Call. Now, let's get into our inbox. Hit that funky music. Hey, team Bug, It's time for roll call time four. Roll call everybody, there we go. Facebook dot com, slash Buck Sexton if you want to use Facebook to send us messages,

team Buck at iHeartMedia dot com. If you want to do email, kick at old school or eight four four nine hundred Buck eight four four nine hundred two eight two five. There is nothing, Producer Mark, and joy's more than staying up late at night to listen to the hundreds and hundreds of voicemails that are coming in during the week. So right, yes, it's my greatest joy in life. Now, yeah, Producer Mark, he doesn't want it. He doesn't want to watch a classic hockey match on the Classic Sports Network

or anyway. No, no, he wants to listen to voicemails, trust me, so send it as many as he can. He loves at eight four four nine hundred. Buck is the number, and let's get to it with now we already have the voicemails. Let's do some rich in roll call Kelly kicks us off here Buck. My nineteen year old granddaughter recently came to live with us in a

ten college we live about an hour from Seattle. One of her friends invited her to attend the Seattle protest with her and my granddaughter told her no. She said she wasn't comfortable being in the middle of a mob of people like that. The friend responded, are you racist? I told my granddaughter I thought it was despicable for her friend to respond that way. I think it is very normal behavior for her age group. I find it

very disturbing. Kelly, thank you so much for writing in, And yes, you're correct, it is unfortunately far too normal now the response that you'll get from people if you don't want to be an activist on the street, which let's just put aside for a moment, whether the cause, who even knows what the cause is right now? The cause is whatever it is on any given day. The left fields like pretending it is. But let's assume for

a moment that you agree with the cause. It doesn't make you a bad person if you don't want to walk on the streets in a mob of people who are very possibly going to turn violent, who are very possibly going to be a threat to the people around them, might get hit with you know, pepper spray or tear gas or you know, because if they start a riot situation with the cops. Doesn't make you a bad person.

Also doesn't make you a bad person to think that you just don't want to go for this march because you think it's not going to do anything and it's kind of a waste of time. So you could even believe all of the anti racism rhetoric that's out there right now in terms of what the movement's trying to accomplish, right you could you could be on board for all of the politics of this, and you would still be completely within your rights to say, but I'm not going

to go march over this. There are other ways that people can take actions. So your daughters, I'm sorry your granddaughter's friend is way out of line. But unfortunately that's very common these days. People don't think for themselves. They want that mob appreciation. They want people to just do

what they say because they're doing what they're told. So if you don't do what you're told by the mob as well, that inherently makes people insecure who are just listening to the dictates of the mob and going along with it. You have to remember that too. So, yes, indeed, it is despicable the behavior describing I can't say it's surprising.

And also, Kelly, you probably you might be thinking, well, Buck do you have any way I could tell my granddaughter how to convince her for No, her friend is gone to the looney bin already on the left, and there's no way to You can't reason with somebody if they really think that it's racist to not march in a protest that could be violent and be a danger. You're not going to be able to reach them with reason, with facts, with logic. It's just not going to happen.

Joel writes in listen, I know this will probably keep from getting this red on air. But Producer Mark is a little wrong on this one. Oh no, it's not going to keep. Producer Mark's an honest man. He's an honest man, occasionally a little grumpy, but very honest. I put it there in that principle, it's right nets he puts it on air to principle. He says, yes, it's called gravy, but nowhere near to the extent Producer Mark

made it sound like it was. The sauce gravy debate is one of them most contentious arguments among not only Italian Americans but Italian Italians. There are only a couple of areas that call it gravy. New York City, New Jersey, and maybe Chicago. Everywhere else calls its sauce, but being New York City as well, New York City gets a disproportional representation in the grand scheme of things. Once you

leave a downstate enclave, it ceases to be gravy. I grew up in central New York and I'm I'm full blooded Italian and Sicilian and grew up but many, many, many many Italians and Sicilians. I never once heard sauce called gravy until I think I saw the Sopranos shields high I seed my time to producer Mark. What say you in response to Joel calling you out here for calling it gravy? Well, first of all, what accent will you just do? I think you used to govern Cuomo

for that entire message, So I'm just confused. I'm thrown off by that. Besides the point, yes, I will, I mean gravy is a common term in the Northeast. I don't know about the rest of the country, but in TV shows, in Italian restaurants you see called gravy, and all the Italians I know called gravy. I'm gonna get I'm gonna get a final ruling from the judges. Here, Snow Princess, do we call it? Is it called gravy? Is this a thing? Snow Princess says, roll call person

is correct on this one. So I'm just I'm just putting that out there. Princess and I are having our first disagreement. Prusser Marcus said that you're having your first disagreement with him about things. So there, there you have it. I'm just I'm just gonna say, there you have it. Oh you know, snow Princess is actually Italian. This is something that has not come up. That's fair. She's all right, she's pulling she's pulling the Italian card because she is Italian.

I'll give the mots of ball opinions. She can give the gravy opinion as Mark. He says, he's our Mats of Ball expert, and you get to be the gravy slash pasta expert. So yep, yeah, she says, stay in your lane, Stay in your lane. All right, all right, we've we've come we've come to a consensus here and and producer Nick is wagon too, but producer Mark, we give you way. Producer Nick says, it's only enclaves in

the northeast. It's called gravy. I will say this, producer Mark, you're you're an honorable man for putting Joel's roll call in the mix here, thought me. He knew how to get on to me. That's right, it's great reverse psychology. Producer Mark would never put this on the show, and sure enough heard across the country coast to coast, Dave next up here, Yo, Buck, I really look forward to

your show daily. Weren't to touch base a month or so ago when you sounded uncharacteristically melancholy about the shutdown and ensuing isolation. Now that the Fauci hoax has been revealed, I have seen your wonderful cynicism back, and your right sense of humor is at it zenith. Your Cuomo impersonation sends me into paroxysms of left every time you'd do it.

Here in the state of communist California, we holly would know what there's a pandemic if it were not for all the Obedia poodles wearing masks and the myriad social distancing signs and the peaceful riots here confirmed there's no crisis here. A pelenx is strong, a shields h high. All right, Dave, thank you so much. Producer Cuomo stepped in here to read I'm sorry, Governor Cuomo. Producer Mark. Governor Cuomo stepped in to read that one for you, and yeah, look, I was I was in a really

bad bad scene here. I mean, I was feeling like I wasn't gonna get to see my family or my close friends for months and months, because you gotta remember, we were being told I think of all the things that happened here. The Javit Center I can walk to from my apartment in probably hand or fifteen minutes was set up as a multi thousand person hospital for COVID patients, and they didn't have to use it. I saw in real time as a hospital ship floated past my window.

Because we were going to be so overwhelmed with COVID patients that at first they wanted them to be non COVID patient of the hospital ship, and then they said they needed to be COVID patients. We were told that this place was going to end up being completely overrun and we were going to have far more hospitalizations. I mean, at one point they were claiming that we're going to have one hundred and twenty thousand hospitalizations at the peak. Think about that. At one time it ended up being

I think fifteen thousand or twenty thousand or so. I mean it was a fraction. Maybe it was thirty thousand to height, a fraction of what was said to be the peak. So yeah, man, things were scarier. This was the worst place for COVID by far. A New York city has had more COVID debts than all but five countries, and New York's not even the biggest state. So yeah, we got hit by this very very hard, and it

was tough. Man. We were like people were thinking the city was going to be done forever and that there was never going to be an economic comeback. And now fortunately the experts were wrong, and the politicization of this has become more aaron But yeah, Dave, it was rough. But the Buckster is back for sure, and I'm glad you see that. And we are rocking here in the

Freedom Hunt. Mike. Next up here, Mike kbuck There's a story floating around the internet about how Trump wants to unveil police reform policies that he would sign into law. Should Trump do that, would that be a wise political move. I guess it depends what happens, but my guess is that wouldn't be enough. No matter what it is. Trump should not pander to that crowd who will never vote for him anyway. Mike, your assessment here, Yes, I've also

seen I've also seen that same news story. Your assessment here is correct about how Trump will never remember Trump did this. White House did the First Step Act. They already took action without there being this huge, you know, upsurge in interest around criminal justice and race relations and all the rest of it. They already did the First Step Act, which was more on a legislative basis, more

than was ever achieved during the Obama years. Has the President received any real, any real political benefit for this. I mean, I think he would have done it anyway because he believed it was the right thing to do. But there hasn't been any increase in good faith as a result of the First Step Act. There hasn't been any sense that this was that the president has benefited

from this politically. That's that's just not the case. So, yeah, you're asking me if Senate Republicans push some bill forward and that and obviously the Democrats in the House sign onto it too. Would Trump be right to sign it? I would say sure, but you know, fine, but it's not really going to do anything. Maybe it'll make some minor changes to police to police procedure that maybe you're good,

but it's not going to change the problem. I mean, it's it's going to be it's it's very similar to well, it's not similar to the gun control argument that I think that a lot of the gun control rules that proposed would not do anything to actually prevent bad people from using guns in the commission of crimes. But a lot of the gun control argument turns into what are relatively minor changes to the Second Amendment at a federal level. But we understand that the incrementalism of the left is

meant to continuously erode Second Amendment rights. And that's why there's always this huge pushback even over the more minor issues. This is a this will be minor changes from a legislative perspective. Democrats will claim victory on it. It will energize the Democrat base, and Trump will get no political upside from it. The only thing you can say is it takes away a talking point of continued criticism against Trump.

I don't think that that's really I don't think it's going to be that valuable, but I do think that Trump will sign it. And I think that this White House has always had an interest, as evidenced by the First Step Act, an interest in trying to take action that is just, in their view, going to be for a more just, more just law enforcement, and particularly on the incarceration side of things, not unduly penalizing and punishing people.

So yes, I think your analysis on this is correct, and I don't think that Trump will get any real benefit, but I do think that he will sign changes to police procedure from the federal level if they come to his desk. I do think he will. You're in the Freedom Hunt. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast, all right. Kind of close out the show strong here with the best role call ever, and that's what we're always doing, the best role call we could ever find. So don't mind. Everybody,

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by the way, it's more like six fifty. Buck will never show up if he's got access to a beach ten months a year. That is, unless, of course, you'll post up into the show right from the beach and all seriousness. Get out of NYC as soon as you can. Mark your producer Mark, your friend Mark is making some sense here. I mean, but I feel like once we're out of lockdown and we actually have to go back to a studio, no matter what, I'm never going to

get you to studio one time. It doesn't matter where we may be true, so at least once we're done starting the show late, then we'll still be near a beach. I think that's your exactly. That would be by the way, we're near a beach. Where I can say is buck the quicker that you get done with the show, and the quicker you get here, the quicker you can get on the beach. Good point. Good point. Yes, Delray Beach might be an interesting place to go. Check out Chris Rights.

Why does it seem like all the people calling for defunding the police are the same ones that needs safe spaces from words in college shields high Chris, Because there is a huge crossover. This is the woke left. That is what the woke left believes that words they don't like equals violence, that censorship is desirable, is necessary, is moral of ideas that that bother them. This comes right from college campuses. Many of us have been warning about

this for a long time. It's gone from the college campuses, and now it is in society to a widespread enough degree. And the people are old enough, you know they're in there. You know, there's this generation of like twenty five to thirty five year old woke you know, woke fundamentalists if you will, and they can exercise enough authority in institutions that are large and powerful that we're now all seeing the results of this where if you're not woken off,

you can lose your job and bad things happen. Angela, Hey Buck, I discovered your podcast about six months ago. Six months ago, and now every day at work I go into my lab, close the door, put my headphones on, and consume all of the insightful information reviews you share. My question is do you think that the local Democrat leaders and all these cities that have been severely looted and damaged have pushed a lot more people to vote for Republicans after seeing the Dems have no interest in

protecting them or their businesses. Shields high Well, Angela, it's great to be able to keep you companying the lab, So thank you so much for being a part of team Buck. We are humbled and we are honored by it. I do not think that this will come back to

her Democrats. Joe Biden was well advised enough to not say he would defund the police, and they will memory hole this whole thing, and they'll pretend that it never They'll gas light us in the fall and be like what we never said, defund the police, and all they have to do is convince one or two percent of the population about this. Robert writes, love the show, OSS member, You and producer Mark do an awesome job. I love his interjections. He needs to get a Twitter handle. Keep

up the awesome work producing Mark. Do you have a Twitter handle? Do at producer at Producer Mark NYC, At Producer Mark NYC. Everybody there. You go, have a great weekend, my friends. Looking forward to chatting with you on Monday. Please spread the word about the show. Pass the Buck, tell somebody in your life to download on Spotify, the iHeart App or Apple podcast The Buck Sexton Show. I'll talk to you Monday. Shield High