The Wuhan Virus

We are still doing it from the studio here in New York City. You may see some changes. For those of you that watch on Pluto, you may hear a slightly different, slightly different tonality, I guess in terms of the technical aspects of the show, because we may be setting up in a remote Freedom Hunt location and the relatively near future. The show will still be exactly as it is in terms of the content and everything else. But things are getting pretty edgy here in New York City.

People are concerned, and I've been talking to friends all across the country. Look, here here's the reality. I mean this is this is a news commentary show. We do a lot of other stuff here too. We're going to talk about this, and we're going to be talking about this story for the next at least thirty days, you got to figure probably the next sixty and who knows how much longer than that. So we are in a

new phase. And that's why I'm talking about it in terms of a war or an ongoing major conflict that polls at everything in our society. And that's where we are. And you know, we're going to talk about the most serious and most concerning aspects of it. We're going to

discuss the things that make all of us nervous. We're gonna look at government response, the politics around this unavoidable, and we're also going to have a bit of gallows humor, a little bit of you know, we've got to we've got to keep our spirits up as we pushed through this. I said this to a New York lass night on wo R, but I'm saying it to you all as well. I am very very confident that there will come a time in the not distant future when I'll be able

to sit here and tell all of you. Producer Mark and I had Margarida's on a sidewalk cafe after the show last night in Tribeca. Down here in Lower Manhattan. It's actually a beautiful part of New York City, and the streets are a buzz and everybody's okay, and you know, we're we got through it. I'm I'm very confident we will be able to have that, and I look forward to it. I look forward to that day when I

can say that to all me in. The market's rebounding, it's gorgeous weather, and we can start just the food fight over the election and whether should be Trump or Biden all over again. And although that's going to continue, but that day will come and we'll be able to talk about that and celebrated together. And I hope it'll come in June. It might not come until Longust or September,

but it'll be here. It will be here. So I think we all need to remember that this is not going to be the new normal forever by any stretch, because right now, man, it's people are people are rattled. You know, there's all these different pieces that move with this. What are the timelines of the virus spread? How well are hospitals equipped? The information overload that you have right now?

I find myself at night reading and reading and reading so much about this that I have to force myself to just give give a little bit, like an hour of time before I go to sleep, so that I don't just go to sleep thinking about wuhan flu, coronavirus, the wu flu. By the way, if I say coronavirus again, it's just because that's what scotten. That's that's what we're being told to say. But remember that's that's an incorrect

that's an imprecise way of talking about this. And when they say COVID nineteen, that's not how we refer to

diseases usually, right. It would be like asking the general public to refer to animals by the by their Latin names, you know, by those I think, like a great white shark is a carcarrotin carcareous boom knowledge, so you know, those are some of the These are the things that you'll think about constantly before you get to sleep, and then you go to sleep and you wake up and the streets here in the city are quiet, and this is going to be and everyone, I think recognizes it

because it's the greatest concentration of people living in the closest proximity to each other you know, Los Angeles is a huge place, but Los Angeles has really spread out. Los Angeles is a city of many cities and for people to stay home as long as they have access to food and the powers on and everything that's there's there's less person to person connectivity in the day to day life there. I mean here in New York we are packed together on the streets, we are packed together

on the subways. Many of you are like, Buck, why don't you come out to me. Maybe this is the turning point, you know, maybe producer market, I need to pull up stakes and move out to I don't know, somewhere somewhere Lovely, Austin, Nashville, Denver. These are all These are all cities that I think about sometimes. But that's for when we get through this. Unfortunately, we are right in the middle of this. We are dealing with a national emergency that is going to test us in many

many ways. And I think that it's important for all of us that we understand out that we're willing to speak to the anxieties of the moment, that we talk to each other, we support each other, we see the good that we can in people around us, and just you know, I hate. Stay calm is like telling somebody to calm down when they're upset, and it never works.

You tell people to stay calm, and it immediately, at least in my mind, evokes somebody who's saying that as everybody's like scrambling for the lifeboats or something, stay calm and everyone's running for lifeboats, we really are going to be okay. And I think that, you know, there are a lot of ways everyone's now making decisions based upon what they think of as a certainty about where this

is all going. You know, they think they know that fill in the following things, right, They think they know if a happens, b happens. I mean, I've got to tell you, just think about it this way. You know, there are so many people who all they do is look at the direction of the stock market, the trajectory of different of different companies, and what their earning reports are going to be. And here we have Mother Nature just saying, yeah, you guys think you know what's coming.

You think you understand the future, you understand what the plan is. You're wrong. Things change, They change very rapidly, and people don't don't see it coming. I look at this as right now, the next two to three weeks, we're more or less going to know if we are if we are entering an even more dangerous phase of this situation based on all the different projections. You know, we also have to have to look at the failure now to get testing kits out. Now, testing kits are

not the answer to everything. I think this has been an interesting area where there's there's real concern and there's also room for real criticism here. The federal government, run by the Trump administration on this one, did not execute up to standards. Now. I think if you look at it honestly, the CDC and federal regulations and the federal bureaucracy, which I know I worked at it, I understand it moves very slowly, a lot of red tape, and there's

a tremendous amount of it's what I call bureaucratic sloth. People. You know, they're ten percent of the people in the organizations do ninety percent of the important work. And that's that's just the truth. I mean, I know people don't like to hear this, but and I'm sure it's the same thing with the CDC, but the testing kits for there to be at this stage a manufacturing defect. I mean, doctor Fauci has even said that this is a failure. Okay, so we're past now. Oh no, book, you can't say no, no,

it's a failure and that's real. But let's also understand, all right, so testing gives you a better sense of where you can try to contain this. But keep in mind that the disease as we understand it right now, and I'll get into why it is important that we call it the Wuhan virus. Some people are also calling it as shorthand the wu flu. I leave that to them.

I may say that sometimes too. I think that it's important that we also don't allow this thing to become this uh, this this beast that haunts are every waking moments. You know that that creates this anxiety, angsty, and fear, become their own become their own enemy. In this whole process, it's so easy for all of us to just succumb to oh gosh, you know, I mean, I mean a look, and I'm going to have some gallos humor. Please understand,

I'm here writing the center of this. I've been in a high risk population for trans for getting the disease in the sense that I'm in New York City. This is where there's the most cases so far, I believe, are in New York State and the New York City area. I'm on the subway. I have loved ones who are in the age risk category that I'm thinking about every day all the time that I'm trying to make sure

that they're you know, they're okay. So all of us understand the severity of this here, but it also does us no good. Once we've dealt with the real facts and the day to day and what we know and a new information to act like, this thing gets to control us. This thing gets to be haunting our every waking and even sleeping moment because oh my gosh, what's going to happen. You're reading these projections, I'm sure there's

been a spike. Look, I've downloaded a few books on the Spanish flu al though Sonja Shaw's book called Pandemic is something that I read on my own about a year or two ago, and I have to say it was very helpful in the early days of understanding before everybody was talking about this so much exactly what's going on here. And I'll also tell you when you're looking at projections and trying to understand what the future will hold.

Everybody who studies pandemic disease has effectively been saying now that we would be in this position at some point in time, and then it would happen almost exactly the

way that it does. These diseases originate in China, not all diseases, but these influenzas and these upper respiratory diseases, and it has to do with my Usually migratory foul often ducks the migratory foul population, and then there's the transfer of a virus that might not even do anything bad to the ducks, but that virus can be transferred

to pigs. And pigs are of our animals that have a lot of similarity, so many in fact, that you can do some transplants of different tissues, and I believe even some some minor organs from pigs to human beings. Um that the transfer from the ducks to the pigs to the humans. This has been the concern. And now I know everyone talking about a guy who ate a bat soup, or it was a civit, or it was I don't know, some kind of there was some other a pangle in. You know, these really rare animals about it?

Why are people eating these animals? That is a fair question to ask. But you know, animals that are that are in the wild do present new cross infection opportunities. Opportunities might be the wrong word, cross infection risks. And this is what has been They thought this is the way it's going to be for a long time, and now finally we're at this place. So we've known this was coming. And I'm actually here to remind everybody of

that this has been known for a long time. And you know, the Sanish flu has in recent years because of stars and mers these other upper respiratory infections, it's gotten more attention than it has in a long time. But it was only a matter of time before we were at this place. And I will also tell you that when you look at that, look back, and I'll be discussing the history of Spanish influenza with you as we go forward in the week, because this is the done,

this is the news story right now. Right. We'll talk about some other things and you know I'll make I'll make some jokes about how like every time I push the elevator on the button here in the building. I'm just like, this is like, you know, Russian roulette virus style. Every time I touch a button with my finger and I'm like, oh gosh. And inevitably when I think about that too, I end up that finger ends up, you know,

I you know, touch my eye or my nose. I almost did it right now as I'm trying to tell you how I shouldn't do that. That's how much of a habit we're all in. So this is going to be a phase of our lives, and it's going to affect made your decisions going forward about government. It's going to absolutely play a role in the twenty no matter what, it'll play a major role in the twenty twenty election. But there'll be other things about this too that I think we all recognize. What we will be able to

recognize at least after the fact. This is going to change our perception of public health. This is going to change our perception of what's you know, of globalization, of all these different major forces that we tend to have a passive view of. These things are just happening. We're just dealing with it. Well, there's more than that. We can change course on certain things or we can adjust, we can understand that this is not something we want to go through again. And you know, I'm going to

try to give you as much as I can. And it seems to be right now, a worst case, best case analysis situation. That's what you're getting all the time, and what I know, and this was just from not that the CIA gets everything right. It actually has gotten a lot of things very very wrong. And I know that because I used to be there and I could see all the old assessments and go through them, and there's plenty of things the SEI has gotten wrong over time.

But when you study predictions, especially predictions about major political movements or predictions about things like a pandemic, you know, everyone focuses on worst case, best case in the beginning, and then it turns out and you know where this is going to usually be something in the middle usually tends to not be the very worst case ends and not be the best case scenario. So I'm going to give you those two ends of it and hope that we can draw toward what is the most likely outcome here.

I think, I mean, here's what I prucer Mark did I did I give my little Oh no, I didn't because I remember I So a friend of mine asked me yesterday here in New York City, And by the way, you know, Mark and I are in it, like we're here in the midst of all this. You know, he's taking public transport to get here. I've been taking public transport to get here. They might shut that down, there might be changes about that, and we might have to get pruser Mark at hell a copter or a limousine

or something. Well, find we'll find place for that in the budget. But the friend of mine asked me yesterday,

what do I think is really going to happen? And I wrote this out without even thinking about it, and it was one of those moments where I realized, well, this isn't I wrote it to somebody thinking this is just if you ask me, like, if you held a gun to my head, what's going to happen here in New York, which I think will be replicated in lesser to lesser degrees in other places, what would you say is likely to occur here? And I'll tell you what that is in just a second. Thanks for listening to

The bus Essen Show podcasts. Remember to subscribe on Apple podcasts. The iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. Yeah, so this is what I texted a friend who's clearly very concerned about what's going on here because they're I mean,

they're shutting down. We're in lockdown mode. And as long and my opinion is, as long as we slow the spread of the disease enough so that our medical facilities can handle any influx of the severely ill, and as long as we still have people that are doing critical things we man, we need people keeping the electricity going, picking up the garbage, making sure the grocery stores have food,

you know, keeping the internet on. I mean, like there are things that we just need to keep God, as long as those things stay in place, and I believe it they will. This isn't a natural disaster, or we've dealt with the well, it is kind of a natural disaster, but it's not you know, an earthquake or a you know, a major hurricane where all of a sudden there's no power, there's flooding, and you have to deal with that. This

is a different kind of natural disaster. As long as that all stays in place, that infrastructure stays on, I think we got a pretty good shot of going through a few weeks of lockdown without it turning really ugly. I'm going to get into how it could turn ugly a little bit, because we got to understand all aspects of this, and I know there, you know when I first started. Well, I've got so much on this, folks. I mean, this is all I think about now every day. Really,

I mean, this is where I am. So here's what I told my friend, though I thought I should share this with you. Things will calm down for a few days, but there'll be a spike and known cases next week when they get a bunch of test results back from the newly opened labs. At that point, people will realize there are thousands of infected here in the Tri state area and at least tens of thousands infected nationally, which means that community spread will be very hard, if not impossible,

to contain. That's when hospital admissions will spike, and that's when everybody will really freak out. I think they may shut the subways here down and create quarantine zones in some major cities. NYC will basically come to a standstill for a week or two. Will we be more or less okay by June. Yes, but we're in for an ugly sixty to ninety days. That's where I think we are. That's what I think will happen here. I hope I am wrong, but I think that's a middle path. There

are certainly worse outcomes it out there. We also have a talk about the Chinese trying to put this on America and there's a great power struggle here that this virus is at the center of. I'll get into that as well. Thanks for listening to The bus Essen Show podcasts. Remember to subscribe on Apple podcasts, the iHeartRadio app, or wherever you get your podcasts. It goes away, it's going away. We wanted to go away with very very few deaths people have. You know, we call it cases. How many

cases do you have? Well, relative to other countries, we have very few cases relative to certain of the major countries that really have a bigger problem than us. We've offered by the RAN. Just interestingly, I think we have the greatest doctors in the world. We've offered a RAN assistance. RAN as having a tremendous problem, and we have offered a RAN assistance. If they'd like it, we will help them. We'd be glad to help take So here's a part

of this whole discussion. I don't think anybody has answers for, but this is certainly, very certainly very important to our understanding of this you are probably seeing today. You know, there's there's a reason for I think, substantial optimism, and then there's a reason for substantial concern. And this is these are the two ideas that keep bouncing back and forth in my head. You have globally about one hundred

and forty thousand cases. You've got about five thousand deaths from this, right, so you're looking at a global fatality, a mortality rate of around you know, two to three percent. Keeping in mind that established cases are I mean when I say keeping in mind, that doesn't get factored into the calculation. But you should keep in mind that confirmed cases are absolutely less than actual cases. There's no way

that's not true. There are a lot of people that thought they had a cold or just you know, figure it. I don't know what's going on here. They stay at home for a week, and now they're going about their lives. I said it home for two weeks. Now they're going about their lives. There's this analysis, right now, and look that the Drudge Report has been absolutely pedal to the metal on we should all be as scared as possible

about this from the very beginning. Now, some people would say that that's that, that's been the correct position at this point. We'll see. I don't think you could say that quite yet, because in China is a very crowded country with over a billion people, and the cities are I mean, Wuhan has I think eight or ten million people. How many Look, I will admit this, how many even knew anything about Wuhan before the Wuhan virus, which is

what we will call it. This is going to be a little bit like undocumented immigrant or undocumented person versus illegal alien. One term is more important and more precise. But because you will hear the other one, you know, people say, you know, the undocumented undocumented persons, it starts to steep in your brain. So we've all been saying coronavirus so much that you don't think that I'm backing off of this when I say, if I'm trying to

say Wuhan virus, say coronavirus. It's really just because you know this. This is part of the propaganda effect out there, And I don't know why we would call something coronavirus when that's an imp imprecise way of describing it, and with so many other diseases we describe it by the first place of known origin. And there's a reason why people, it's it's important. This isn't just a you know, getting down to the details and who cares. There's a reason for all of this. There is a reason why I

think we need to focus on this. But I'm giving you now my we'll get into the politics of this and everything else us. The reason that I see for optimism here is China's got a billion people and they have had what I mean a few a few thousand deaths to this point, and they've been dealing with the virus for months, and they have over a population of

over a billion. And they also suppressed it in the early days when after scientists who were trying to get the word out early I mean, there was a government lockdown on this in a bad way, not meant to protect the public, meant to protect the Chinese Communist Party and the regime. Well if China, which does have a look,

I was just in China about a year ago. You trust me, if you were given the option of being in a Chinese hospital or an American hospital, your standard American hospital, you would take ninety nine times out of one hundred. So there's no reason to believe that they have a better public health system for dealing with this than we do. How now, And you could also say, Buck, maybe they're lying about the numbers. Maybe they're lying about the numbers, And I say, yeah, I mean that's certainly

a possibility too. And so you know, if we don't trust their numbers, I don't know. You know, they did put the virus sequence out there so people could start developing tests for it, But if they don't put the numbers out, or rather if we can't trust their numbers, I don't know how we can really even analyze this situation China. I do trust the numbers in South Korea, though, I do trust the numbers in Hong Kong and Singapore countries that I've gotten this under control. But let's just

focus on China for a second. If if this disease is as easily transmitted and as dangerous as we've been led to believe by most of the media accounts, isn't it almost well, wouldn't we have to consider it almost a miracle if Chinese numbers are correct, that you only

have a few thousand. I mean, I'll give you the updated the updated number as of today, so I can stop just saying, you know, a few thousand, So you have, Okay, Italy's coronavirus death toll is over a thousand people, and I'm trying to see what the Chinese coronavirus death toll is anyway, it's it's it can't be more. The overall death toll is five thousand. So let's say you've got you know, three thousand roughly dead in China. I think

I think that's about what the number is. That's very very small, considering the entire population of China would have been at risk for this for weeks and just free transmission of this for weeks before anybody was doing anything. And I know that they've taken pretty extreme measures to lock this down, but okay, you know the measures are effectively versions of what we're doing here, Cleaning public areas, keeping people home, limiting social interaction, social contact, all this stuff.

So okay, why would why would we then have to be told as we are being told, that there's a likelihood in this country, a serious likelihood that will have a half a million people dead from this, which is what we're being told by some of these estimates apparently coming from health experts. Now, for that to be true, and I'm not saying it's not true, I don't know. No one can predict the future. You know, that's one of one of my most important They're saying one hundred

and fifty million Americans could get infected. Okay, well, one hundred and fifty million Americans getting infected. If you have a mortality rate of two or three percent, you're gonna have a few million people who die. You've got a billion Chinese and we're months and months into this. It's supposed to spread very quickly and have a very rapid onset. Most people develop symptoms within days of exposure, they believe. Although there are these other you know, there's all these

competing theories and stories out there. For medical professionals, taking a step back for a moment, this is just also you know, the doctors, nurses, they do all these amazing things, and there they are on the front line. They are the you know, the Praetorian Guard, or actually no more than that, the Pretorian Guard is usually in the back. They're the front line soldiers. They are the marines of this war. They're the grunts of this war against this virus.

I mean, they're they're the ones that are right there taking it and and dishing it out to the other side. This time the other side is as a virus. But there's a lot that modern me doesn't know. I think we have generally been led to believe because of some of the amazing things we can do with cancer treatments, and that modern medicine has more answers than it does. There are a lot of big questions out there that medical communities still is. I know they're trying to answer them,

but they don't have answers to you. And if you want a very low level of a very low level version of this and something far less serious what we're talking about here, just going to a doctor and say, you know, you have IBS, and doctors will give you fifty different reasons for it and fifty different things you can do about it, and you know, it's kind of like good luck, sorry about your ibs. Right then that's just a But millions and millions and millions of people

have that in this country. I think it's the estimate ten to twenty million people suffer from it pretty regularly. Don't have answers to that. Now, that's obviously not a pandemic and people aren't dying from it. But I'm just saying there's a lot that modern medicine doesn't know yet. And when you see all these different analyzes from people in the medical profession or estimates or guesses, you start to think, Okay, what do we really what do we

really know here? What do we really have an understanding of? So the upside, the big upside that I see is that you've had not only slowed transmission rates in other countries, so it is possible to slow this thing down. That's good, but also that in China you've had really, relatively speaking, so few deaths in total that it makes me think, well, can't we expect there to be a similar, if not

better outcome here, especially because we're taking these precautions. Again, I don't know, I do and now, so that's on the good side of things, right, and the good side of things. And as you know, eighty percent of people, they keep repeating this, eighty percent of people get a relatively mild disease with some you know, flu like or cold like really more like cold like symptoms. It's well, you get a fever, that's not really so much with a cold, but you get a fever and you get

a dry cough. Those are seem to be the two most common, definitely the fever and usually the dry cough, and it can linger. Now on the on the side of greater concern, I would say a couple of things. One, we keep seeing this one hundred and forty thousand people worldwide have gotten the disease, confirmed to have gotten the disease, and sixty thousand have recovered. Okay, that's less than half

the people that have had the disease. Now, does that mean that eighty thousand of them have just gone the disease in the last couple of weeks and so they're not yet confirmed that that's possible. But I do have concerns that maybe this illness can linger longer than people realize. And that's also where you get into the how long

are people going to be contagious with this? And you know, once you've had it, you know, I suppose you're gonna have to wait till you've get a negative test back before you really know that you don't have the risk of making contagious for anybody else. That's that's where I think we really are with this, that we need to figure out what the incubation period is. And there's the possibility even viruses react differently with different people, and is this has always been the case. There are a lot

of viruses that people show no symptoms for that. There's still something called viral shedding that goes on, which means that you're in whatever way you're transmitting it, you're you know, little little viruses are getting out and you can still give it to somebody. So that's why you know there's a there's some uncertainty here. Next week, I think we should all be prepared for this, and I wanted to say this to you now, and I've what was it a few days ago? I said, look, I think we're

gonna have some days. And then the next day I was like, yep, we're having a day where we got to batten down the hatches and get ready for the squall that's coming. Next week is going to be a bad week for this. So I want us to all get and by the way, don't you know, don't this weekend, give yourself off a break. I mean, I'm gonna do the same thing. I'm telling Producer Ah, Producer Mark's actually moving this weekend, so he unfortunately, dude, we are all.

I just want to say. I know that people like this is a global pandemic or whatever, but you have to deal with the global pandemic too, and you are moving your home. Yes, this weekend. And when all the rumors were coming out, my wife was freaking out that like they were going to shut down the roads and shut down the transit system and it was bad. I'm just hoping tomorrow happens. Yeah, I think you're good for tomorrow. It's better that it's tomorrow than next week. Yes, but

I'm starting moving. You know, I've moved far too much in life, Unfortunately, I've just for different reasons, for jobs and for you know things, I've moved too many times. Moving is very stressful, so everything. So I understand the stress of every that everyone feels right now, particularly in this city because we know there are people walking around with coronavirus. We know that CBS had to shut down

it's offices for a day to do a cleaning. I'm also not sure I'm not opening their offices again for another week. Oh wow, I just knew they shut it down for the day. It's a week. So producer Mark has friends and contexts that know about what's going on. I just focus on the freedom hunt. I know you do. Yeah, so yeah, I mean this is the you know, this is the way the city is right now. Everyone's very anxious,

everyone's very um, you know, concerned about this stuff. And yeah, I gotta say right now this weekend, you gotta let yourself be with families, stay home, stay in place. If you have to go out, you have look half to means have to, right. I mean, this is the reason I'm here, It's the reason Mark's here, Like, we gotta put on a show. We gotta be here to do the show. You know, we might figure out some ways to leverage technology so that we don't have to be

co located. Because Mark and I've been talking about this. If one of us is near somebody who thinks they have if one of us is near somebody who has self quarantined, then really we have to self quarantine because if he has to self quarantine, I have to self quarantine. And now we're like, now there's you know, now we got a big problem because now we can't do the show. So we're going to try to figure out a way

to be able to keep the show. We're going to keep the show going no matter what, but we're figuring out the technology in that right now. This is a long way of saying, you know, this is this is a weekend where you should really take care of yourself. Rest. It's important. I know this sounds like, you know, advice from fake doctor Buck or something. It's important for your immune system. It's important that you psychologically gave yourself. You know,

this weekend is the weekend to binge on Netflix. Read that book, Calm down, give your mind. You know, you've had to make so many wherever you are in the country, wherever you are around the world right now, you've had to make so many decisions about this, whether it's whether you're pulling your kids out of school or not, what you're gonna do with your kids now that they're home. You know what you're doing about your investments in the market,

and don't that's one place do not panic. Okay, don't panic. Sell bad idea, you know there's and sell if you want, but don't panic. Sell. So you know, there's all these different decisions, and you have decision fatigue. You know, your mind gets clouded with what am I going to do next? What am I going to do next? This weekend, I'm gonna say it. Those of you who pray obviously already know you don't need you don't need me to tell

you it's go weekend for prayer. I don't I mean prayer like, oh my gosh, terrible things are gonna happen. I mean pray for that connection to God. But you know you can also try meditation. I'm gonna be doing I am gonna be doing a little bit of yoga this weekend. You need to. You've we've all been absorbing this. We've all been just the last week or so in particular,

pulling in all this anxiety and stress. Stress is very immunosuppressive, and it's also not helpful for you to make the best decisions you need to for you and your family going forward. So if you have off this weekend, if you're already staying where you are, or if you're in a place where you know some of you're like Buck, I don't see my neighbors, you know, unless I drive you know, two miles in one direction, right, Well, that's great, and you know, take this time because next week, next week,

things are gonna get are gonna get ugly. I'm pretty confident. I'm not certain. I'm pretty confident because that's what everyone's going to realize. Oh, the numbers are much higher. The lack of testing has made us think that there are fewer cases than there are, and there's a lot more community spread than we realized. And then they're going to start worrying about are we going to see the surgeon in the hospital the week after that? So be prepared. Next week is not going to be a good week.

Next week is going to be tough. Rest this week and take care of yourself this weekend. You're in the Freedom Hunt. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast, Doctor Fatty. Will there be cities on lockdown in the United States? You know, I don't know. I mean, as I always say, you've got to keep everything on the table. You would hope that you wouldn't have to resort to these draconian moves of actually locking down a city, But it depends on what happens. I hope we never get to that.

But you never take anything off the table when you're dealing with protecting the health of the American public. That's the way of saying that we could have whole cities under quarantine, my friends, And this is what I was getting at for be prepared for that next week. It won't be forever. And it's also about lengthening out the lengthening out what our health system can handle at one time, trying to disperse the cases more on a timeline so that it's not all a big spike at one time.

That's why Italy got so just crushed. But we could see that, and we could see it as soon as next week. Thanks for listening to The bus Essen Show podcasts. Remember to subscribe on Apple podcast, the iHeart Radio app, or wherever you get your podcasts. Well, I think one thing that we need to do is put politics aside. And that's exactly why Democrats have agreed with the President Trump on his goals of paid sick leave and his goals of free coronavirus testing, and so all of those

things have been included in our package. We bump it up a little bit more. But you know, in when you have a Democratic House and Republican Senate, compromises the name of the game. I think the President is going to have to accept the fact that we're fighting for people who are going to be potentially unemployed. He's going to have to accept the fact that we're going to push on doctor and nurse protections. But also when you look at the best, you know, the best healthcare system

in the world, that's something that's up for debates. South Korea, we're up to. South Korea has up to ten thousand tests per day. They've been able to provide test to any single person that wants it, and here people are scrambling, and it almost seems like the more wealthy and powerful you are, the more able you're able, the more able you are to access a test. But the more you know, the rougher road you've got here, it's going to be

a lot more difficult for you to access healthcare. That's exactly the recipe for disaster in the pandemic now AOC. I look, I always try to do this, and I think I do a pretty good job, certainly better than a lot of other people that think that they work in the media. When something is good, or when something is brave, or when something is right, I say it AOC went on Brett Bear Show. Now, Brett Bear is

very fair, he's not an opinion guy. I don't think AOC would sit down with like Tucker because that might which by the way, would be amazing. But sitting down with Brett Bart, let's give some credit. She's able to go and sit down and do that. I when I say able, she's willing to do that. A lot of Democrats, a lot of Libs will never do that, won't do it, won't subject themselves to anybody that doesn't just give them softball after softball and tell them how wonderful they are,

which I think is really it is hurting. It's part of the polarization in this country. It is hurting discourse. I mean, some of you haven't asked me, especially given the last time I went on you know, Bill Mars Show. Yeah, they were disrespectful and unfair and didn't let me talk. But I'm there, I'm making my points. They act that way, people at least get to see. I'll argue, I'll argue the other side. I'll argue my side on anything with anyone, anytime, anywhere.

No such things like oh I can't unless you know I'm not gonna sit down with like, you know, members of the Nation of Islam or neo Nazis or whatever. Right, I'm not gonna do that, But I'm saying anybody, there's no forum I won't go into for fear of having to deal with the other side. In fact, quite the opposite. I'd go on CNN tonight. I would go on Anesty Cooper show and talk about the Trump administration's response to this. No problem. They just won't have me because they're afraid

that their anchors will get schooled. Then they will. So that's there's a huge difference by the way, between one on one versus multi person. When it's multi person, it's just think of it almost like a fight. You know, I don't care how good you think you are as a fighter. If there are four people, and of course some of you, I'm gonna get in a preser mark. There's so many jiu jitsu experts in this audience, you know.

Whatever I bring this stuff up, they're like, book, I'm a ninth degree black belt and I studied in Kyoto with sense blah badih blah, and I could do like a and I'm always just like, okay, that's good for you. But for the rest of us, if three or four

people attack you, I don't care. If you're like a strong, tough person, you're gonna have your hands full if three able bodied males attack you as a guy, you know, whereas you know one on one, you might think you've got a pretty good shot against a lot of people. Same thing when you're debating. If if you're arguing with four people because you can't, they're gonna have a lot more time to speak than you. There's no equal time. What you have something to add to this conversation. You

called me over, so I came over. Oh yeah, no, I just I mean, you see in our on our inboxman, there are people that, oh yeah, somebody expert on everything. We had a guy and by the way, I don't I'm not saying this and anything other than other than respect. We had a guy when I talked about the fl license, I'm like, one of you is gonna write and we got a whole paragraph about how much an FFL license costs and how you get one. Yeah, you know, I think there are a few of them. Actually, we have

a lot of toilet paper experts at these days. Well, well, let's be honest though, we're all kind of toilet paper experts, are we? No human doesn't use it? And if you do, actually, I want want to hear from you. If you don't use toilet paper, I want someone's figured out a better way. Yeah, then then i'd be I'd be somewhat curious to see how that goes. So anyway, So AOC, I'm just saying I I respect people for I can't say I respect AOC's positions or knowledge about anything, but I respect that

she has the goal. And I will say even even Bill mar when I did his show afterwards, he said, I'm the sugar Ray Leonard of Conservative Tis And you know, he does give he doesn't give respect on are to people that he shouldn't necessarily from the right, but he does understand that there are a lot of people that just won't even won't even try, I won't even show up, or even worse, they show up and they're like, yeah, you're right, you know, I mean Donald Trump's kind of

terrible actually, and yeah, I know. I want you guys to nod your heads and like me. I don't care, don't like me, that's fine. Live audience doesn't matter. So I'd rather be right than be loved. Maybe that should be hm, I kind of like that. Actually, what do you think I think I think we'd use that. So where was I? Oh? Yes, AOC. So there are two worthwhile parts of what she says here. The first has

to do with wealthy people getting tests. Now, I have a friend right now who is receiving and he's been very vocal about it. I won't name him because I've also been talking to him offline about it. But I have a friend in conservative media who's waiting for his current see I'm most did it wuhan virus? And I need to get into why it's important to call it that. Waiting for his wuhan virus test today. I think he's supposed to get it, might be tomorrow get back results.

And he has been one of these people who's saying that it has been a nightmare to get the test, like trying to actually get the tests they make it. You know, you're on the align with the CDC, with your healthcare provider. Nobody can figure this thing out, folks, friends, This actually isn't really that complicated. This should be very doable. This is a failing. But before we get into why,

it's a failing. You have now some very prominent people who have been either confirmed to be in contact with wuhan virus or are officially confirmed to have wuhan virus. Alexandria Ocasio Cortez is on Brett Bear Show, and right around at that point in time, I think it came out that that was six pm last night, so I was in who I think that's when we saw that Prime Minister Justin Trudeau had self quarantine and his wife

was showing symptoms. Turns out the Prime Minister of Canada's wife has coronavirus um that I can, right, I don't know enough about sports, producer Mark. You remember the NBA player who has been confirmed with it on the Jazz right as Rudy Gobert. Rudy Gobert, he has it, right, he has corona. Yes. And also Donovan Mitchell, who's from Queens is on the same team as the JABA players. Are two players and he's a star. Ah yeah, yeah, So we're all stars though, producer Mark, we're all unique

snowflakes made in God's image. Yes, of course, thank you. We're all special. We're all special. So that's uh, that's bringing and of course Tom Hanks and his wife. People are now thinking, okay, hold on us, and I believe Balsonaro, the president of Brazil, these pro Trump, populous president of Brazil. Um he has been tested. He is negative. But somebody in his retinue, one of his people, communications directors. I

think either him or his wife has it. I think they believe it's tough to even keep up with this, but you're seeing and then all, my gosh, the lives they all want. They all want to know why President Trump has not been has not been tested for this, and they think that it was casual enough contact between the president and anybody who might have this, that it's

not necessary. Prominent people are getting this, which is I mean, it's bad that anyone gets this, but it is at least raising awareness that anyone can pick this up, that this is a just like anyone can pick up a cold right. It doesn't matter who you are. Prominent people can get this. And why is it though, that they're able to get a test so quickly? AOC brings that up. I will say that it I mean, maybe that's just a perception. Maybe those prominent people are just able to

maneuver the system. More effectively because I don't know, but I do know that my friend who's been he's been waiting for over a week to even find out what's going on with this test, and I think it took him a week to get the test, and you know that's that's unacceptable. So the testing issue is real. Look, if we had if we had a test sent to the home of every American in the country, let's understand

that would be helpful. I'm not going to pretend like that's not helpful to know who has it right now, But it wouldn't mean that we wouldn't have to worry about this, right It wouldn't mean that we still wouldn't have a surge coming up possibly of confirmed cases. And they're still community spread and you know, you know, so even if you knew who had it, you'd have to know who had it and then know everyone that they

came in. They call it contact tracing, and you'd have to do a contact trace of anybody that would come into contact with that person. Because I also don't know if you if you're able to if they're able to pick the virus up before you're symptomatic. I don't know the sensitivity of the test. I mean, there's a lot that goes into this, and there are a lot of still on unanswered questions and one there was one news is Once report today. I think, does the Miami of

I'm sorry, the Mayor of Miami, the Miami of mayors? Well, that would probably be really interesting. But does the Mayor of Miami have it? Or is Pricer Mark? Would you check from me on that? When I think, I don't want to ever say that the public figure has coronavirus and doesn't, but I thought I saw that there's so many headlines coming out on this, so yes he does, right, Yeah, the Mayor of Miami does have it, so that you

know has coronavirus. So people are getting this all right, so we know that there is this problem with the testing, and let's understand this right now. There are going to be discussions about this. This is what the left has focused on. And I see how long I've gone without really making this political. I'm gonna try to do that as much as possible, because this is one of the very people always say well, this is not political, when they mean it's very political. You know, it's as political

as it gets, you know. Oh, and just talking about you know, access to women's reproductive health. This shouldn't be political, oh police, it's very political. This is actually above that, this issue of protecting our vulnerable population. We also we keep talking about vulnerable seniors. Um, it's not just seniors

who are in the vulnerable population. And you know, as I've said, the one thing whenever you talk about vulnerable seniors, everybody's got a mom and dad, a grandma, grandpa, great grandma,

great grandpa, great uncle. You know. You know, so even if you're not in that population age wise, there are people then you know, nearest and dearest people to your heart are And so that's why everyone focuses in on this and understands this is like, you know, we go to war with this virus, so they don't touch you know, grandma or grandpa or anybody else. Right, That's that's what we're trying to accomplish here. But it's not even just that age, that age cohort that really has to be

on guard when they talk about comorbidities. You know, this is where everyone starts to think about how you know, your your health is so important and you must do everything you can. Is on each and every one of us now, I know people get I have celiac disease, not because I'm a bad guy, right, I mean, people have things that come up. It's not because I made bad choices. It just is. But to the degree, no,

I don't need gluten, And that's what I mean. You make the choices you can because if if you don't, you're just going to play a worse hand. You know, we've all been dealt a hand with our health, but you've got to play the best hand you can. There was a very interesting I'm trying to find it right now. I'm sorry. There's so much information coming in team. So if today sounds a little bit less, you know, a little more free form of a show and a little

bit less like I've got this precise. Usually I come in here and I've got three hours of topics broken down, you know, issue by issue, content by content. What's the takeaway? I mean, that's how I approach the show today. I just feel like we're all drinking from a fire hose. So it's a little more of a as we go. Okay, this was on respiratory fitness. I thought this was this was fascinating and for America, you have to put this in the overall column in terms of our ability to

withstand the spread of this disease. This is from Carl Quintanilla, who is a reporter anchor at at CNBC, and he says, the two most important parameters in respiratory fitness. This really matters, right because this disease goes for the lungs. That is, that is the way that this is taking people, taking them out where they have to go to the hospital. And then even some people don't make it through, don't win the fight in the hospital, even if they have intubation,

if they're in the ICU. So respiratory fitness is really really important, and he says the two most important factors in that are one. Now, one of these is an look. I have a lot of sympathy for people that have any kind of an addiction. I get it, But I'm just looking at the numbers here, are looking at the aggregate of what we're facing. Whether the person smokes cigarettes, it's very very important when you're gauging their respiratory finness.

So I'm telling you this because you know, I know there's a lot of team buck that you're you know, you smoke, and I'm just looking out for you. You have to consider yourself if you're a smoker in a higher risk Even if you're a thirty five year old or a thirty year old smoker, you got to consider yourself to be in a higher risk category in this. So please take those precautions that people are talking about.

I know it's a little counterintuitive, but if you're if you're a long time smoker, I mean not if you smoke one cigarette a month or something, but if you're a long time smoker and you're in your thirties and your forties and your fifties, you got to think about this like your this disease is going to come after you very very possibly like somebody who's in their seventies or their eighties, in terms of your lung your ability for your lungs to fight back against this. So you

got to be very careful. And the pollution level is the other part of this that's also a really important indicator for how well member. You know, I was in China, as I said a year ago, and I was I was leaving Shanghai, which usually is not as badly polluted as as Beijing, and it's it is like something out of a post apocalyptic movie when the and it was still there, and it's apparently a lot better than it used to be. But you can see this, you know,

I can't even really explain it to you. I mean, it just looks like a collection of smog and when the sun's going down, it kind of bounces off it in a not appealing way. And you know, you have this this goo that's all in the air. It's just pollution. And by the way, I'm all about conservation. I'm against pollution. I'm just not against CO two, which plants rely on for air, and you know that's CO two is not a polluting but we all have to pretend, because the

green movement is insane, pollution is bad. And I'm all like, no, we do not want these you know, industrial facilities spewing out acrid smoke that that hurts your lungs, and you know we breathe out ct So how much of a polluting isn't really folks, let's think about that for a second. We're it's literally coming out of your body every second. We're supposed to think that's that's pollution anyway, don't get me started on that. You know, these days, I'll tell

you as a part of me. I don't know. I'm a little rebel, you know what I'm not doing these days as we're all like in lockdown and trying to stay alive and worried about our loved ones. No, they can come after me for the not recycling. Sorry, not doing it. It's going right into trash. I'm sorry. I don't want to hear about it. More important things stankkul All right, So on smoking and on pollution, the smoking rate and the average pollution levels. Here's what you got,

country by country. China smoking rate forty seven percent, average pollution level forty one percent. South Korea smoking rate forty nine percent, average pollution level twenty four percent. Iran smoking rate twenty one percent, average pollution level twenty four percent. Italy twenty eight smoking rate, pollution fourteen. United States smoking nineteen,

pollution nine. This matters. We have a lower percentage of smokers, and we have and this is probably the most important in terms of looking at the aggregate numbers and how this will affect the population of this country. Overall, we have much cleaner air than these other countries. Now, I know this seems like, how can this really matter? This is what It all comes down to, is can your lungs get enough oxygen to the rest of your body if and when this thing attacks you and your lungs.

If you are dealing with daily pollution all the time, your lung capacity is affected and the strain on your lungs is already higher. So I'm not Look, this is not like, oh, we're great. It's America. We got clean air, so we're not. No, of course, this has still killed people in this country. I think it just killed the first person in New Jersey. It's killed a bunch of

seniors out in Washington State. But we're in better shape than a lot of these countries we've already seen from day one, because of the health of our population and because of the age of our population. Italy's population is much older than ours as a percentage, and then also pollution. You're in the Freedom hud. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. So I also wanted to get into the testing situation here because we're told a lot about the

failure and the testing. There's some lessons here about the CDC and about bureaucracy, and then also about ingenuity, and there's a big focus now that I want to drill down to a little bit about local government, local action, and how if you're relying on the FEDS, you're going to be waiting a very long time. Local governments are stepping up now in a way that we should focus on. Thanks for listening to the bus Sex and Show podcasts.

Remember to subscribe on Apple podcast, the iHeartRadio app, or wherever you get your podcasts, just to give you a little bit of a of a either a little bit of a pause in all the Wuhan, I haven't even gotten into the reason why we should call it that, and try I keep meaning to and team, there's so much and look, we're gonna be in this together. We're in this every day until this thing is passed. So shields high for real. This was a story that I thought was just worth taking a moment to look at.

Andrew Gillham. You may remember Andrew Gillham. He was a very celebrated by the media gubernatorial candidate for the state of Florida, very important state as we all know, for a lot of reasons. And he was the mayor of Tallahassee, which, as I understand it is not a particularly well run city. It's got city with some problems, but it turned and

I think, now he's a CNN contributor. He was because you know, CNN, if you become a famous Democrat running for office, you know the first thing you move when you move to when you lose is you just go to Jeff Zucker and he starts writing your checks. Turns out that this is breaking news from today. Andrew Gillham was quote in an inebriated state, inebriated state, on the scene of a possible drug overdose at the Mandrean South Beach Hotel early this morning with clear plastic baggies containing

suspected crystal meth. Not only was he the Democrats and he came close to winning the Democrats favorite I mean, the media love this guy. He was their choice for the governor of California, I'm sorry, pardon me, governor of Florida. But he also was talked about by some people as a possible VP candidate. And look, if this was like fifteen years ago and he was a young guy and this happened and we found this out later, I'd be like, hey, you know, I mean, look, I know drugs are bad,

oding is very serious. I get all that, but you know, I think we're living at a time now where we are more forgiving of people's youthful and disgressions, and we used to be al much just having on. Then we make up in discretions that didn't happen, and we make

up assaults that didn't happen. But you know, in general, I think we're a little bit work But not if you're being talked about, actively talked about as a possible VP candidate, then you probably shouldn't be in an inebriated state at a drug overdose scene at the Mandrea and South Beach Hotel. I've been too, by the way, which let me tell you, party never stops there. That place is the place is lit lit af for sure, that's

where that's where the party happens. I'm just telling you it's a lot of at the Mandrean and at once that other the slsoh, man, you better put your party shoes on if you go to the SLS and South Beach. I can tell you that much. So Andrew Gillam will see if this ends up being what it looks like. But um, yeah, yeah, that's a that's a real thing that's going on right now. That's a news story for you that has nothing to do with virus. Um okay, so CDC and then uhuan virus and then we gotta

get into some other stuff. The CDC is a federal bureaucracy that is vast and bloated and wasteful and spends a lot of time not doing We all think, here, here's our perception. And it reminds me a little bit of the movie The Strain, which I'll come back to later because there's a lot of If you haven't watched it, I think now is the time to watch that show. I'm just gonna say, if you haven't seen The Strain, it's kind of about it's a pandemic. That's really Also

it's set of a disease. It's a vampire. Essentially, a vampire disease makes people in the vampires. That's a disease. Look, I'm just if you're gonna be corn self quarantining or social distancing and you want something to watch, maybe it's the worst thing to watch because it might freak you out a little bit because the hero is a guy from the CDC. The main character is like the CDC

director of you know, infectious Disease. It's basically doctor Fauci, but like a forty years younger version of him, who somehow is also really good with like machetes and weapons. But you know, of course, so although I bet Fouchi, I bet Fouchi you could throw it down if you

needed to in the zombie apocalypse. I don't know. I get the feeling, you know, if you talk to him, he probably in the Old County, you know, in the old country, back in the day, and the Bronx played a little stickball, and I bet he was in some scraps. So you know, I can just see a day and said, you know Tony Fauci from the Bronx. Okay, so is

his name Anthea? It's Anthony right. The CDC was asked if they could allow labs to do their own tests, and they said no, because they're not allowed to say yes because the bureaucracy has rules and the bureaucracy won't just bend rules. Now, that's probably where Trump should have put out an executive order for the CDC to be able to expedite any test requests, and not just test requests, but the ability to set up a test and do it remotely. Because there are a lot of state labs

that have the ability to do this. I will say Governor Cuomo, who I've given a hard time too many times, and I think rightly so in the past. Governor Cuomo seems like he's on this. You know, I believe strongly that you know, the Democrats, and you're seeing this from the Democrat executive leadership roles a lot more than seeing him. The legislators are all doing the Schumer Trump is terrible. He can't handle it. We're all gonna die because Trump.

That's what Schumer is doing, which is disgusting. Same thing with Hippolo. If I was in charge, yeah, you're in charge, you'd have to wake you up from a Chardonnay nap. But Newsom seems like he's on it. Cuomo seems like he's on it, and I'm thankful about that. You know, I don't see them. I don't see them taking cheap shots. Maybe that'll it will change at some point, but I think while we're in the midst of this pandemic, you

know they're they're on our side. They're on our team, and they're making that pretty clear from their public actions. Cuomo set up a drive through clinic just like South Korea has here in New York, and now they're prioritizing people from neuroshewe, which has been the hardest hit, and they're prioritizing anybody with symptoms over people that just think they may have been exposed. But we've got to drive

through where you'll be able to go sample. You're in your car, you don't have to deal with anybody be exposed to anybody. That's the kind of stuff we need. We need ingenuity, We need people to be thinking outside the box to use the resources we have most effectively. And the CDC, I hate to say it got in the way of that. CDC slowed down, slowed down a lab in Washington State that wanted to start doing testing. Not good. The CDC slowed down. You know, the processing

of this stuff. I mean, there's been a lot of there's been a lot of bureaucratic red tape at a time when man, we should be taking a chainsaw to red tape. And if there's ever a time where you could expect that government would finally wake up and be like, Okay, we just got to do what we need to do here. You know, I'm hoping that we have a vaccine in a year, and I mean I think that the press. Look,

Trump is a guy who understands incentives. You know, we we should say, you know, whoever whoever gets a vaccine. I mean, would anybody I'm just gonna put this out there.

I don't even know how the mechanism for this. People have talked about bounties for curing diseases before, but would anybody check to you know, whatever, you get to sell your vaccine and the government's going to reimburse you for that, fine, we should put a three or four or five billion dollar bounty on top of whoever cures this thing, whoever gets the cure and gets it done the fastest. I don't see why that's Think about how much money that

would save the government. I mean, so it shouldn't. You know, the market is working here, but there's all these regulations and everything else. Maybe a little a little bit, a little bit of an extra incentive. I would be all for it, because remember, this is not this is like a foreign invasion. This is not standard market stuff. This

goes beyond that, right. You know. It's kind of like if you see a marketplace that's operating, and you know, you want to have rules and contracts and people in free exchange and they can buy you're not buy into all these things. If somebody shows up with a flamethrower to let the whole market on fire, that's when the government has to step in, right, that's when you actually want something other than just like the free exchange of

goods and services. And this virus is is like that flamethrower, and this virus is trying to just burn it all down. So we do need Now there's a role for government, there's a role for every individual, and there's a role for everything in between. And as I've been saying, you are responsible for your health. This is one thing that I've had to learn because I've had many frustrating experiences

with the medical community. And some doctors who listen to the show have told me, you know that they think that that's that's not representative or whatever, and that's fine. I just can only speak from my own experience. I find that modern medicine can be great. It can also be really really disappointing because of the system we have, because of the incentive structure, because of healthcare the way

it is, and you know, the bureaucratization of things. When we really need people who are allowed to heal and focus and work with people. So that's that's good to see. In New York. We have the localization of approaches, and this is where the federalist system we have the genius of that federalist system. The federal government's doing its thing, you know, has to put some funding in place, maybe some broad rules of the road, but every community should

be coming up with what they do here. And we're also going to be learning. Some communities will do things that work, some won't. Those communities will will unfortunately pay a price based on those decisions. But that also allows other communities to say, whoa, Okay, so this place did this and that worked out pretty well. This other place didn't.

And this is where everyone starts. Looking at the flu pandemic of nineteen eighteen Spanish flu, where I believe at the time Philadelphia and Saint Louis were the third and fourth largest cities in the country, respectively. I didn't realize Saint Louis was ever that big comparatively, but you know, I guess this is what this is what I've read, so I'm assuming it's right, and Philadelphia makes sense to me.

But you didn't have the explosion of population on the West coast cities like California and I'm sorry, like San Francisco and Los Angeles until into the twenty you know, in the nineteen twenty nine, thirty forties. So Philadelphia did not take the kind of quarantine shutdown measures that we've seen, and Saint Louis did, and Saint Louis had a much better outcome from that flu than Philadelphia. Right, So you see that different cities make different decisions and that affect them.

So the local has become very important. Now we've got to get to wuhan virus. And why do we call it that? You're in the freedom of hide it. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. The World Health Organization now has officially officially declared COVID nineteen a pandemic. Down Playing in being overly dismissed or spreading misinformation is only going to hurt us and further advantage the spread of the disease. But neither should repent it or fall back

on xenophobia. Labeling COVID nineteen a foreign virus does not displace the accountability for the misjudgments that have been taken thus far by the Trump administration, so maybe crystal clear. The coronavirus does not have a political affiliation, will infect Republicans, independence and democrats of life. Will not discriminate based on national origin, race, gender, or zip code. We'll touch people and physicians of power as well as most vulnerable in

our society. You will not stuff rady at all. Travel from Europe or in it a part of the world may slow it, but as we've seen, it will not suffer the traveler restriction is based on favoritism and politics. Rather, risk will be counterproductive. Joe Biden is not a strategic mind. Yeah, and so I'm trying to avoid that. He's a blundering buffoon and a moron who is corrupting all that stuff. Today. There'll be other days where I say that more openly

because I think that that's all true. But Joe, Joe Biden is not somebody that I think we should listen to on this at all. And also there's a lot that he says there he's trying to do the travel restrictions, he's basically saying this isn't political, and then he tries to take all these political shots at the administration as though we're not clever enough to figure that out. But when he says that coronavirus, see, I just did it. COVID nineteen as he calls it, has no nationality, or

we shouldn't fall victims of xenophobia. That is Chinese propaganda right now from the Chinese government. In fact, the Chinese government has already produced a book that they're distributing, and I believe they've already translated in different languages. Fox Knew has a story about this that Americas are sponsible for this, and maybe America even did this on purpose. They're telling

the Chinese people this. Now, a lot of the more sophisticated Chinese news consumers are going to be like, come on, this is more of the Communist Party. But a lot of them won't. A lot of them will think that maybe they've been through this horrible scenario because of nefarious

American activity. My friends, Trump is the first president to realize what we're really dealing with when it comes to China and the confrontation that looms on the horizon here of two superpowers, it's us and them, and they want to be number one. They want to be the hedgemon. That's very clear from everybody who's paying attention to what's going on in that country. And I even said when I was there, I'm talking to people who are in

the business community in China. There's been a shift from the Chinese culturally, politically, and from a just a news consumer perspective thinking America's great. American markets are all some American Coca Cola is delicious and McDonald's is wonderful and all that kind of stuff that we've all the globalization who look at this too. Now, we're better than America. They're kind of lazy, they're kind of slow, and we're going to defeat them, and we're rivals, and in fact,

we're better than they are. There's been a shift in their thinking, and the Chinese Communist Party knows this, and they're also going to have to deal with a lot of economic displacement in their own country. A lot of people are upset, and totalitarian regimes know that the narrative that they even if they have to force it down people's throats, the narrative of regime self preservation is very important, and we are going to see that continue to be

an issue here. We're going to see them try to convince their own population and as much as the rest of the world as they can that this is an American problem. No, this came from China. China lied about it. Because China lied about it, there was much more global spread. People in Italy got this. There's a large influx of tourists from China to Italy. Italy is one of the

great tourist destinations, of course for the whole world. But you know, they the Chinese government's lack of transparency on this issue had real consequences for other countries and they're now trying to displace that unto us, and that's unacceptable. This is the Wuhan virus comes from Wuhan City, China. That is what happened, and whether it escaped from a virology lab which is which is I wouldn't say it's a conspiracy, it's a theory. It's happened before. So people say, oh,

that would never happen. Well, they've lost other viruses that have gotten to the general population. They just didn't happen to be as bad as this one. But it probably came from the animal trade there. As I said, there's I think they called zoo nah transmission between different animals, did different species and you know, maybe China need not allow people to eat like rare and endangered and bizarre

animals as a regular practice. You know, we do have laws here that you know, you can't you can't keep livestock within city limits. There are reasons for that, because we don't want people, you know, living next to pig pens and goat farms and all these things in very very close quarters for reasons like this. And if you look at the way Chinese animal husbandry takes place, or you know, with livestock, the way that they proximity to

livestock and the sanitary conditions. Chinese have a huge livestock industry and particularly pork pigs. That's why they're very upset about the swine flu epidemic the last time around, because it had really affected their their pork industry, and that is something that China doesn't want to have to deal

with or be held to account for. But you know, Chinese practices when it comes to the senate conditions of their livestock industry, Chinese pollution, these are issues that affect the whole world, and China is not a good neighbor on this stuff at all. It's the opposite and that's really where you're going to see this conflict, this continued friction playout in public. And that's why we call it the Wuhan virus, because that is what it is. It

is a virus from Wuhan. We are now Producer Mark and I are thinking about how we get home safe from the center of New York City and what's going to happen to our loved ones, and what's going to happen to our city, and what's gonna happen to our country and to our fellow Americans. Because of what happened in China and the way that Chinese government did not respond openly and with an eye toward humanitarianism and people first.

We now we are sitting here in New York City, and because of what happened in Wuhan City, China, and the way the authorities reacted to what happened there, that's affecting all of our lives. It's affecting the lives of every single one of you who's listening to this. I know you're all making the same decisions, you all the same concerns, and you know we're standing here just waiting to see are we you know, are we faced with an onslaught or are we going to be able to

turn back the tide? You know? And this is well, well, well we'll have to see. I think next week is going to be tough. Thanks for listening to the Bus Sesson Show podcast. Remember to subscribe on Apple Podcast, the iHeartRadio app, or wherever you get your podcasts. Everybody gets Friday. The country is in need of the the wit and wisdom of none other than the seven foot tall Guru

of Texas, mister Jesse Kelly, who joins us now. He's also a host of I'm Right with Jesse Kelly on Pluto TV's channel two forty eight, the first and also he is of the Jesse Kelly Show, which is on KPRC Houston, the the great lead in for the Fantastic Buck Sexton Show, which is right after him. Hey, so people in Houston have six hours of radio they need to listen to every night. Jesse. Great to have you on.

It is good to be here. I don't know if everybody's going to appreciate my wisdom because I have a little different take on everything that's going on now than everyone else, but I'm giving it anyway. Well that's what we're here for man. We know that we can go unfiltered, uncensored with Jesse Kelly, especially if we're taping it, because then we can bleep out anything we have to, so, which is always a smart move I found out. So, dude, I'll tell you this. You know my brother. I've got

two brothers. They're They're the greatest dudes in the world. You'd want them in your foxhole, you'd want them at your party, Like, they're great guys. My brother last night was at a Whole Foods here and he's like, I wonder, and you know, he texted me, He's like, I wonder what it's going to be like in there, and he kind of it was kind of like that scene in a movie where he walks in and it's like, oh,

that's very quiet. It's kind of civilized. And then he turned a corner and he started sending me photos in real time. Empty shelf, empty shelf, empty shelf. Oh there's the vegan section totally full, empty shelf, empty shelf. Like, well, what's it like down in Texas right now? Are people panic buying like that? No? No, And this is interesting. I had a conversation with somebody from Pennsylvania. Somebody who lives, you know, not rural, but I mean certainly not the

city Pennsylvania. And I asked, hey, what's it like there are are the shells empty or people panicking? And this person told the point blank, they said no. They said they think all this panic everyone else is doing is ridiculous. Everybody's going about their lives relatively normally. And yesterday I went to an arcade. I took my sons to an arcade, which arcades are sweet. Now, by the way, I highly recommended.

I haven't done that forever. Took my sons to an arcade, went to a gym, went to a restaurant, went to a grocery store, all of them I frequent regularly. The crowds were just as fact as normal. It's as if nothing has changed down here. And frankly, I love it. I think this a panic is absurd for a virus that is almost completely safe for people who are old and sick. Now, if you work with somebody who's board

and sick, you need to take extra precautions. If you're not somebody who's like that, guest, wash your hands more. But this hoarding things, as if this is the black death Part two is the most ab third public planic I've ever seen in my entire life, even if I had stot like yoga tested, because the virus isn't even dangerous. I gotta tell you. I remember, it wasn't Hurricane Sandy,

which did hit New York really really badly. There was a hurricane before Hurricane warning before that, maybe a couple of years, and I don't even remember what it was called, but I do remember that I had friends who were acting on the sort of you know, the advice of the city and stuff, you know, in the middle of Manhattan, who were filling their bathtubs so that they could have access to fresh water. And then when the storm actually came,

it was it was nothing. It was like some high wind and that was one of these times, and we had all been told, you know, and the whole Foods was it was like, you know, boogie fight night, man. I mean, people were in each other's faces. I went to one, everybody was stocking off. They're all, you know, really really freaked out. You know, I'm out of the mine because I'm here in New York, and I think you got to take this thing seriously. I also agree

with you about the highrist population issue. And you know, especially if someone like cares for their parents and their parents are in their sixteen seventies or eighties, like you know, that's a different situation. But the hoarding of food and particularly the hoarding of toilet paper, I mean, there's I just saw a tweet before where there I don't even

where where Summerlin. I don't even know Whereummerlin is. And this is like, I know more about mid East geography than American geography, but they say there's like a three hour line to get into the Costco just to get in, never mind to get out. And think about that level of panic buck for something that has killed forty people in over twenty of those people were from the exact same nursing home in the state of Washington. Again, I am not saying this thing is nothing. It's not nothing.

It is serious. It's spread like wildfire. If you were old with heart and learn problems, it is dangerous, extremely for you. For everyone else, including children, There is no indication this thing is in any way dangerous. In fact, all the numbers come to the fact the regular flu is more dangerous for you and me and kids than this bugan flu and people are lining up at Tosco stocking up at torn toilet paper like they're going to crap themselves to death. I find that to be the

most ridiculous thing I've ever heard of my life. Yeah, I Summerland, by the way, is in Nevada. I didn't know. I just learned something new, a little little American geography lesson for the buckster in real time, because like, I can't say things like that on air and not correct myself. I gotta know where everything is. Although whatever, we're not on radio in Summerland, So work on that, Summerland, work on it. But ye know, I gotta tell you, man, I think that next week we're really going to see

and I'm gonna put this out there. I am hoping that I'm not preparing for this to be the case because I think that it would be. But but there's a part of me that that hopes that really this has been you know that it's like twenty or thirty percent.

The anxiety and the fear and the actions were all taking are completely warrant because I think there is there is reason to do stuff and to get ready for this, no question, But I'm hoping that this has been magnified substantially by the media, to the point where within a couple of weeks we'll be able to turn around and say, Wow, they really were doing this because Orange man bad and

they hate Trump at some level. Not it's not entirely, but I think that they've I think that there's been a desire to exaggerate and exacerbate so that they can they can hurt people, or they can make fear worse than it would otherwise be based on the facts. Oh, no question, there's such some of that. Now. I'm actually not going to act like that's all. But because the truth is what it toasted diseases, they have a way of scaring the public in the way that other things don't.

I mean that the disease is one of those natural human spears because you can't see it. I mean you canl you know, is all of a sudden you get in your dad. So it's it's something people are scared of. But the shoe as the matter is whose sight of the working man too? I mean everyone's talking about, oh, I can't feel out my much madness practice because they're canceling all these you know, sports, They just canceled the Masters.

And maybe that's stuffs Warreth and maybe it's not, but it's not about the players in, the millionaires and the owners, the people. Take a step back and think about how many people's livelihoods depended on I've been talking regularly hour They working people depend on these events going off, and without a second thought, everybody's just closing everything down. Well, that's fine for the millionaires, also, Tiger, what's gonna be fine?

What about the families that make their entire living, all their profit off the Master's going off in a gusing it's gone now. I mean, I'm not saying there's no reason to close anything, but let's not just close everything

really knilling because but that really affects working people. Yeah, I worry about the economic implications of this because you know, there's some people who you know, like, we're continue to work, right, and we're doing what we do, But there are some people and we're affected too, because what keeps us on the air? Right? Sponsors? What do sponsors do? They sell

products to the public. So if people are not buying, Fortunately, a lot of our sponsors you can buy online or you go online, right, I mean not all of them, but a lot of them, that's the case, but it affects everybody economically. I mean, our forum. Looking at your form on K right now is just like a form of self torture. It's just a bad idea. Don't touch it, don't look at it. Come back to me any right, come back in a year or six months, at least

maybe a year, and see how you're doing then. And by the way, it might be long in that, it could be two years, but anyway, but Jesse, I just want to know if you do have to engage in some self distancing, which it sounds like you're not going to. What is the Kelly families like self distancing pastimes? What do you guys do exactly what we did this morning? Right now, I'm actually letting my voice places video games.

We spend the last hour out of the public hard plays basketball, and we're just going to continue to live our lives. And if I have to continue of the Jesse Kelly Show from my living room, thenk you guys are gonna see me in my pajamas and they're pretty risk let me tell you. There we go manum By the way, speaking of risk a, yeah, you know where

this is going. So mister Jesse Kelly, you are well known for making jokes that make many of us, including me, laugh, But they're the kind of jokes that many of us are like, I don't know, like I would always be, by the way. I actually got a trouble once just for responding to one of your jokes. So that's speaking of contagion. There's Jesse Kelly humor contagion. If you just respond to a Jesse Kelly jokes, the wokeness will come after you. They're like, how dare you? It's Jesse might so.

Jesse's tweet was the follow The was the following hold on a second. In response to the the NCAA Men's and Women's tournaments will be held without fans and only essential staff and limited family and attendance, Jesse wrote, quote with a heavy heart, I must announce that nobody will attend the NCAA Women's basketball Tournament for the fortieth consecutive year. End quote Jesse, what has the response to this tweet been? Like?

It's been an endless brage of esp female ESPN personalities, w NBA players in every local hack radio, White Knight trying to trying to try to school me on behalf of the local women's team'll trying to tell me how wonderful women's basketball is. That women's basketball sucks, and everybody knows women's basketball sucks. And it's not like I have anything against women playing, and I think that's great. It's everybody in good shape and looking good, and that's really important.

But my thing is, don't don't insist that I acknowledge something is enjoyable to watch when it's not. You brought up women's tennis and we were talking earlier, like you said, that's the good promist. Women's basketball. Basketball itself is such an athletic game, it's running. It's m if people watch sports to see things that they can't do that they don't feel like they would be able to do. And the truth of the matter, as women's basketball is boring

because women aren't as physically athletic as men. That's not even close to being controversial. That's a fact. The truth is, the average high school player or the best player in the WNBA couldn't make the top forty high school basketball men's teams in this country. And that's a fact. That's just a fact. It's a sport about that fleticism. But they yeah, so I want to ask you why do all these people then, especially those who make a living commenting on sports. I mean we did when we were

talking right before, you know, right in the break. You know, I'm I'm an avid tennis player. I love tennis. I've been playing my whole life. Women's tennis is a great product. I mean, and those women, by the way, would beat ninety nine point you know, at the professional level, they'd beat anybody who wasn't at least a men's D one college level player or any female on the tour. And those are guys who are really really good at tennis.

And there are even some women like Serena Williams who would be pretty much all the you know, D one tennis player guys and could probably beat up to the top one hundred or so of men on the tour. So there's just this, it's a different sport. There's greater parody because, as you point out, you know, it's not just you know, there's not quite the same focus on size, speed, strength. Why is it that people get so upset whenever I mean, like I you know, I think the WNBA is a

boring product to watch too. Why can't I say it's just an opinion about an entertainment, Like why can't I say if I don't like a movie, I can say that why we although you can if with the all female Ghostbusters, which I guess is kind of answering my own question here, why can't you say w NBA is boring? Jesse? Here's why this actually points to a larger societal problem. We have watched the leftist, the social justice warriors completely

reorder society and they've been successful. It's not like they're trying. They've done it. They've completely reordered society, and they've done it in such a way to where what's up is now down, what's left is now right. And you are

not allowed to say the sky is blue anymore. If they decide that women's basketball is just as good as the men, then you're not allowed to say otherwise blueist they decide that the sky is green and the sky and the sky is green, and if you dare to step up and say the sky is blue, they will try to bully you and shut you up from acknowledging the simple fact that everybody else on earth can see.

And it's why I always win when I can in these little dust stuffs with them because in the end, I'm right, yeah, you know, I mean on this one, I saw your apology, to which I appreciated, but you know, look, I mean if and also, by the way, I'm not telling anybody don't watch the w NBA, you know, or you can't watch a great if someone really enjoys it.

But you and I both know, like the people who enjoy women's professional basketball are either women who play basketball a lot or people who have family members who are like playing in college or something like that. And the stands are pretty empty and a lot of those games.

And I also think that people like take their daughters to it because it's become this like parents will take their daughters in these WMBA because it's become this kind of girl power thing, which I don't really understand why they wouldn't do that with other Well they don't do that with other sports. Oh, there's no question. And there's more towards basketball basketball even the basketball has always been a little bit more woke if you will, then the

other sports. So there's this real I am woman hear me roars to it, and like you said, look, if you want to go to a w NBA game. A lot of people will hurting themselves. Everybody. Jesse Kelly, He's gonna be grilling steaks, hanging out with the fan, playing video games, going to the arcade and the gym this weekend. He is not worried, but he's right with Jesse Kelly.

Is the show that he has on Pluto TV show him through forty eight the first If you haven't guys, especially right now, entertainment is going to be really valuable in the week's ahead. Download that Pluto TV app and you can watch me. You can watch Jesse Dana lash So do check that out. And also kp RC Houston. You get Jesse Kelly followed by Buck Sexton. So from like what is it, seven Eastern all the way up until like midnight, it's just awesomeness. Yeah, that's a lot

of greatness on the radio right there. It is, indeed, Jesse Kell everybody, Jesse, thanks, oh Man, be safe. You're in the Freedom Hut. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. Somebody said to me, now, when you elbow buff you get close to the person, So forget any physical contact. Gleetings now in Eastern Eastern style. Bow in the Eastern style that Superlosi says, I will say if if this means that you know that I've never been a big I'm just gonna say it. I've never been a big

handshake person. And I know that it's like I'm supposed to be like kind of a manly thing for a lot of people, a handshake. And you know, also when people in the past, I mean, I give a normal I don't. I don't do like a you know, a weekend shake. But people that like squeeze my hand aggressive, I'm like, okay, do you wanna do you want to see who can punch harder? Like, why are you trying to make my hand uncomfortable? I don't. I don't like it.

I've never been somebody that you know is a big hand I know it is a handshake deal, and there's all this stuff out there. I'm not a big handshake person, never really have been. Um, So we'll have to and it does in moments like this, you gotta ask yourself what are we doing here? Well? Why why would we continue to have handshakes? Elbow touching is bizarre, obviously. I think I think some form of you know, if you want,

some form of salute would be fine. I think if you want to be a little more form a little more respectful, um, that that would make sense to me. I think if every walked around kind of giving a salute. I you know, it's the same reason I like to call everyone sir and mam until I know you you're sir and mam. I feel like I even call Producer Mark sometimes sir, just because you know it's Producer Mark,

and if I don't, he'll get surly. So you know, you got to be able to adapt under the circumstances here, um. And I think that making sure that you don't have to shake everybody's hand. And it's also you know, look a lot of people you see when you're in like the airport restaurom and you see people coming out of there hand washing reminders that we're seeing right now. It's not just for it's not just for Wuhan virus. You know, the handwashing reminders should be out there for everybody on

everyth There's a reason why they have those up. I'm always in a restaurant bathroom. I'm like, why do they have to have this employees must wash hands thing? Because some people need to be reminded. So I'm all for changing this up a little bit. And this is where I'll start to bring up more of the the aftermath of Spanish flu and how that affected our culture and really really important ways. So that'll be something we got

to do next week. This topics is obviously not going anywhere, so I'll have a lot of time to spend with you on all of that. But the getting fresh air and being out in the sun, and although this actually a lot of it is a legacy of our battle with Spanish influenza, So that's something to keep in mind here that there's going to be There's going to be things that, even after this disease passes, are changed in our culture, and there'll be cultural references and touchdownes that

we'll be aware of long after this is gone. So look, I've been saying to you and I want you all to make sure you have a great wee can. I also want to get into your thoughts on all this. I'm sure there's going to be a lot of that. We did talk Unfortunately right now there are more impressing concerns. We did talk about getting a voicemail box set up for all of you so you can call them. We can hear you and play your audio on the show. We are going to do that, but first we got

to make sure the world doesn't collapse. So that's on the back burner. But it is on the burner, so we will get to it. Thanks for listening to The Bus Sesson Show podcast. Remember to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, the iHeart Radio app, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, Team Bug, it's time for roll call the team. I'm gonna want to hear from you a lot in the week's ahead. You guys might be especially if we go

into lockdown moade here in New York. The team we're the show is going to continue, don't worry about that. But you know you're gonna be my my contact with you. I'm not gonna be able to see family. We're gonna be We're gonna be self distance from from family here in New York. At least I'm gonna self distance from family. You're not even gonna get to see me, that's probably true. I will FaceTime though, why just so you can see my smiling face. I don't want you to miss me too.

I know what you look like. Ouch. So yeah, there's gonna be a little bit of a lack of human connectivity for a while here in the city. That's gonna happen for at least a few weeks. So hearing from all of you is going to be really helpful and helpful for the show. But also, look, I'm gonna want to hear from across the country. Tell me you know, I want to hear what you guys are going through. I want to hear if you're scared, if you're not scared.

I want to see if there's lines at the store or not, if you know the local schools have shut down. One thing I think might be an outcome I was mentioning before some of the cultural and political takeaways from all this. One thing that I think is going to be very relevant here is a lot of people are going to have their kids at home that aren't used to that because the schools are closing. I mean, are all schools in New York about to close? Or where are we the public schools? No, it's if you have

a case of closes for the day. They're keeping the schools open for now. But some places I think the schools are Somebody told me that his kids school in Baltimore were shut down for three weeks. Yeah, I think the worry in New York City is that a lot of there's one hundred thousand kids that are homeless and rely on meals from the schools, so they ucate them open as kind of a really as a support system, support network for children here. So you have and I

want to hear from all of you across the country. Mean, you guys are going to be giving us. I want you to be my front line correspondence for what you're seeing. You know, whether it's up in Portland, down in Austin, out in Boston, in Fort Wayne, in Baltimore, and you know, you name it all. We have affiliates all across the country. I want to want to hear from you. FA And if you're listening to the iHeart app in the middle of wherever all you need to sell service, right you're

listening in central Montana. I think we're actually on a station in Montana somewhere. But anyway, Yeah, and I'm just saying we're one hundred and sixty so it's hard to keep track, all right, elam hey buck. For the last four months, I've been working in a mind numbing and soul destroying contract role and the light at the end of the tunnel of the every day has been your podcast show. Thank you so much, Elam. I really appreciate that. Man.

I arrived for my nine to five job to keep ahead of the curve, earphones in, head down, always moving forward. Good for you man, stay in the fight. I finished in four weeks time. However, you will continue to be my daily podcast show so that I can hopefully watch your name and brand grow from strength to strength. Thank you so much, Elam. I really appreciate all that you're burning. Impressions. The millionaires and the billionaires have given me many morning chuckles,

as well as your interactions with producer Mark. You two make for a good team. Give you up the good work and thank you again for being that familiar and dependable voice in my earphones every day. Elam, absolutely my man, shield time. Thank you so much. Great to have you on the team. And it's an honor that I get to keep you informed, entertained and keep your honestly, just

keep you company. Um. And I'm somebody who because I was such a long time radio listener, I know what it's like when you develop that you know that that feeling of community you have when the host. I mean for me, it was rush when the host of that show is your connection to all these other like minded people across the country? It said, Look, it's a special thing. Um. And plus I got producer Mark. Does anybody else have producer Mark? You as wonderful, as wonderful and as incredible

as as the Russia Limbaugh Show is? Do they have a producer Mark? Don't? I mean they do have. Mister Snerdley is pretty awesome. Ever metd Not? He's actually great. You guys would get along too. Mister Snerdley is nobs, Isn't he in Florida with Russia? Yeah? Yeah, but I'm just saying, yeah, one day we'll meet. Yeah, he's um. He is a little larger than you are. I think

he's about six four issues. He's a big fellow. People would the name mister Snerdley does not evoke a man who I believe is about six three or six four. And I mean he looks like he could be a d end on the Giants. He's a large guy. Sure. Yeah, yeah, I'm just saying I will not mess with the guy. Yeah, I'm say, yeah, you don't pick a fight, No, of course you guys would love each other, all right, Jim right,

Hey Buck, I'm a I'm a liberal. Pardon me. I'm a medical laboratory scientist at a major hospital system in the Michigan area. So my co workers in my handle all the testing starting today since there were two cases yesterday. On the other side of the state, people in the healthcare system are in full blown panic mode. All non clinical staff are a work from home till future notice. All entrances are locked except one which is fully manned

with a screening team. All people are screened upon entrance. If people come in and have symptoms, the room is shut down for two hours after they leave, and then cleaning starts. It's crazy how much panic the government and corporations are stirring up to make it all worse. From Sunday till today, I've not only seen the first positive flu eight tests I've seen all year. The rest of the season has been mostly flu B. But out of the fifty states I've run over fifty percent a fifty

tests I've run, over fifty percent have been positive. So the system will be stressed even more with the giant uptick in flu. Just wanted to give you some info from someone who is dealing with this disaster. My overall assessment is the media and the Dems see this as their last and best chance to beat Trump in November. The public be damned. I've also passed the buck to eight other people and turned to you for their daily

news coverage. Now shield's high, fellow patriot. Well, jim Man, you're on the front lines of this, and thank you for some insight into what we're seeing, and also for passing the buck to other people. That's a great help to us, and it's an honor. And when I say I appreciate it, I really do mean that. Even producer Mark gets a big smile when we see the podcast numbers going up every month, and they've only gone up about fifty percent in the last six months overall, so

only fifty percent. Yeah, I passed the buck yesterday. Really, I got into an umber from the train station. I can't use my car for whatever reason. But he was talking about rush, so, you know, and he was complaining that he won't have any sports to listen to because they're all canceled. They'll go, you know, if you need something to listen to in the car Buck Sex and Show podcast bam Bruster Mark even passes the buck. Look at me, well done, high five for us. It's good

and now he'll know what I look like. Yeah, and it's nice because also now we hopefully can both continue to get paychecks to buy food. So when we're standing in line for hours and hours at Costco, at least our credit cards will will work. I can't even imagine doing it. That's where we're heading, I think, John, Oh my gosh, here we go. Wow, I just got It's

funny as I'm here, I'm talking about this. Wow. They've just they have told me that my I ordered from a delivery service a few days ago, because that's very common in New York, and they're telling me that it's like basically missing everything. I just got that alosimone here. Of course I knew that. I knew that was gonna happen. So no laundry to church in, no paper towel, all the all the things that I was hoping to just

I didn't order huge. I just ordered like one or two so I could have them for the next week, you know, a week or swore Nope, out. I don't know how. I don't know how that happens. I don't understand how they You know, something's going on here. They're like selling laundry detergent on the black market. Now, I don't know how I'm gonna stock my new apartment. Yeah, like whatever I don't have. Oh well, I'm I am not I am not pleased about this circumstance right now,

because I needed I need laundry detergent. I've seen the tweets. If you go to a bodega, apparently they're fully stocked and empty, but all the grocery stores are packed and fully stocked and empty of people. But all the grocery stores are empty of food and have many people. Really. Yeah, I went to a market yesterday that will remain un named because I don't want everyone to like flock to it. It It was I had everything totally normal, so I

don't understand. But then my brother went to Whole Foods. Whole Foods, it looks like like the ravaging hordes have come through and taken everything. So basically what I'm saying is stopping boogie, go to a bodega and get what you think. Great, dude, I love bodegas, local small business. I'll make it a bodega. By the way, for those of you don't, it's like it's a Spanish word for

a grocery. We have them here in New York and they're often owned by people from Dominican immigrant families Puerto Rican immigrant families, and bodegas are a commonplace thing here in New York. I feel like they don't have that everywhere. They don't. They don't have Delis in DC, so you know that definitely don't have both degas. DC is a weird town. It is a weird town and everything closes like nine o'clock too. John, Hey Buck, Greetings from the

beautiful mountains of Idaho. A buddy and a co worker I've known for almost twenty years has been trying to pass me the buck for the last few years, but two hours of content was always a little too much to squeeze in my packed load for podcasts. But I'm glad I got over that hang up. I look forward to the the Freedom Hud every day, even if I'm listening to it at one point five speed. Keep up the great work, shields high well, John, Thank you man. Hey

listen to what as fast as you want. And for those of you that that are you know listening and you want to kind of condense it. You could always try that. Listen to one point five percent speed. I speak with enough pauses between what I say because I hate filler words, because like I could like sit here and like I mean, like totally like talk the way that like even some other I mean, you know, radio host talk, you know, and they do. I don't like that.

I like precision of language. I like people to be able to listen to what I'm saying, and the words that I'm using have a purpose, and the purpose is not to allow me to think of the next thing that I'm saying. I just will take a moment to think about the next thing that I'm saying. I prefer that I have. Actually one thing that one knock on me in the past has been sometimes people have been like, were you reading that monologue? And iverything, No, I'm just talking,

and they go, what sounds like you? And I'm like, what do you think? It sounds like a read? They will know, but you're so few filler words that it we assume that you were reading it, even if you were reading it really well, and it didn't sound like a read in terms of tone. I don't know anyway, A little humble brand, a little Panela back for the buckster. Let's see we got here, and thank you John for that. I appreciate it. And you're right, hey, buck on your talk.

I knew we're gonna get some toilet paper actually, and you're talking about toilet paper during college and at work. I bring in my own toilet paper from home. My university and workplace has cardboard for toilet paper, and I eat a good amount. If you get my drift. What what does that mean? I think he's saying he poops a lot buck oh, eat a good amount period. I'm sorry. I thought he meant eat a good amount of Pardon me, I'm sorry. I was bout. I thought he was saying,

eat a good amount of cardboard for toilet paper. I don't think he eats the toilet paper. No, I understand, but that's why I was so confused. My workplace, workplace has cardboard for toilet paper, and I eat a good amount that. Okay, the grants a grammar issue. It's a grammar issue. Eat a good amount of what now I get it, eat a good amount? Okay? Whoa pardon me? Team, Sorry, I hope you're not having lunch. I'm guessing the t the TP run is because people think that the quarantine

for two weeks and they want to be prepared. You're the man, No, Andy, you're the man. I think you're correct. I just think that that's you know, they can keep the shelf stocked if everyone just buys what they need. You know, look, if you want to buy what you need for the week, I get it. But to buy what you need for the month. If our shelves are all bare in a month, we got bigger problems than just whether or not you bought a month's worth of stuff.

So I don't think that that's where we are. I will say that I when I started the media business long time ago, I worked for Glenn Beck, and you know, we did a lot of There was a lot of talk there, and Glen would talk a lot about about being prepared. And the people that are that tend to focus on preparation or not the kind of in your

not like in your face, haha kind of people. But I think a lot of them right now are kind of like, yep, knew this was coming, got six months worth of food in the basement, plenty of fresh water, a generator, ammunition, and we're fine, I'm just gonna say it because they're not gonna say it. But I don't know a lot of them are kind of like he and we. Meanwhile in New York here us as bougie New Yorkers like oh good, heavens the whole food just running short on site, Tan and Tofu will be all right.

I hope you're in the Freedom. This is the Buck Sex and Show podcast. Chris writes hey book. As an English major back in college, I can appreciate all of your recent book recommendations. I always had thought that I have read in nineteen eighty four back in high school, but it turns out I read Animal Farm. The only way of knowing that was by the fact that I

save all my books that I've read. It's a goal of mine to one day have a whole collection and a nice bookshelf in my future home, probably not in my homestate of California at the rate of housing costs nowadays. I'm curious do you do the same in terms of saving all of your books. I liked to refer back then whatever I need as resources. Very good Rush and Chris, and thank you for writing in. I used to save all my books, but I've moved so many times, and

books are so heavy when you have a lot. When I used to have multiple full bookshelves, bookshelves, boot bookshelf, bookshelves, and I just I got so tired of carrying them and also finding a place for them in my tiny apartments. Because I am not a wealthy man, so I had to get I gave a lot away, and I really did. I I don't throw them out. I would take I

took whole loads. I would use like rolling rolling Duffel bags and fill them with books and take over a couple at a time to a place called the Strand Bookstore here in New York City, or they'll pay you for some of your books, but really they're just gonna like take them off your hands and then try to resell them or find a place for them. So I

really appreciate that the Strand does that. You know, you go in there, you're like, ah, these books are they're very they're very wonderful, and I'm expecting to get a lot of money for them. And they'll go through like fifty of your books and they'll say, okay, great, um, here's a check for three dollars and you're like ah, not worth what I thought it was, So I do not hang on all. I hang on too books that

have particular sentimental value, anything that's been inscribed by the author. Um. I have a number of books that you know the author has written a little note to me or something. I keep those, obviously, but and other books that I just feel like you got to have. But maybe I'll maybe I'll take some foe. I've done this before, and some people get mad at me because I say I don't do this, but and then I always do it.

I could take some photos of my bookshelves, because we're guys, we're gonna need to all hunker down a bit and get used to a lot of things being closed, and it's a great time to knock off some books from your reading shelf or from the stack. I got the stack next to the bed, although now I'm a little bit more clean, so I don't really do that. I kind of have a stack that's next to the stack of books in my bookshelf. But I'll take a photo

of what I have on the shelf. And yeah, and mostly I'll read from kindle too, because I like to read at night before I go to sleep. It helps me fall asleep, and I can't. With the light on reading that makes it harder for me to fall asleep, But with a kindle man, I could pass out in fifteen minutes. So yeah, Tom, Well everyone the media is consumed by the hysteria of the COVID nineteen virus and

the free fall of the stock market. The American judicial system is returning to status quo and sweeping all the crimes of the past eight years under the rug ag Bar has given the nod to continuation of the FI as a program, no changes to FBI coverups, and no serious charges against anyone from the deep state for all the egregious crimes committed against the American people by institutionalized

corruption in America. There may be more information coming that explains what happened today, but the moment appears that American citizens and our constitution are getting screwed again. I'm with lou Dobbs on this one. There should be outrage, but instead we're told to lack The lack of real justice is the new normal. Any thoughts on this Shields high Buck. By the way, I know that there's some people who work in conservative media at certain websites who listen to

this show. I know this for a fact. Listen to this show every day. I want and a half speed for ideas for articles and things. So I always appreciate that. I'm happy to help the movement in that way, and I mean that I'm not I'm not being sarcastic. I really do appreciate to that and I'm happy to help people out. Tom Yeah, I mean, we're not going to see justice for these spying against Trump. In fact, they're probably going to try to do it again in the

next election. And I know that that's not what people want to hear. But I tell you the truth. And when I think it's not what people want to hear, there will not be justice for this. I think the left, it doesn't care what the Durham probe says, the ag of the a USA in Connecticut or no, the Yeah, the US attorney, not the USA, the US Attorney in Connecticut, Durham, who's on this. It's not gonna be enough. So yeah, I wouldn't hold your breath on that. One of my men.

So everybody, well, we are making contingencies to make sure the show stays in the air every day, no matter what happens, come, what May. We are going to be thinking about all of you over the weekend. Producer Mark and I sent you are our biggest, warmest I was gonna say hugs, but I guess we can't touch. But you know, we're thinking about you guys, and we're praying for all of you. We're all gonna be fine. We're

gonna come through this. We're gonna have some celebratory shows in a few months we can talk about how we're all past this. Take care of yourself, Take this seriously, and remember our rallying cry, remember our battle cry. Here on the show shield high