The Unserious 2020 Dem Candidates

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leave now, goodbye everybody. And I joke, and then I came back and I told but they said, you know I was joking, but I'm really not joking. You have no choice because whoever they put in the same or they are the worst they're doing, and whoever they put in. It looks like it's going to be a revolution to the left. They're going to take your money, They're going to take and very much hurt your families. I just

don't think people can allow that to happen. We have a country that's doing, I think, better than ever before. The economy is the strongest it's ever been, most powerful or military, all of the things we've discussed. Welcome to the buck Sex and show everybody there you had the president. I think that could be a perfect summation of last night's debate. I think that pretty much says at all, the crazier the Democrat is, the better they're they're doing

in general. Now, there was a little, a little moment last night with Senator Kloba shar I give I always say credit words due Senator Kloba schar certainly didn't seem like a complete lunatic, and so that was a differentiation, a point of differentiation between her and the rest of the candidates on that stage. But it was more of exactly what you would expect if you watched all of it, which I watched most of it last night. Then I went back and watched it again this morning. Because I

am a glutton for punishment apparently. But it's all the same stuff, you know, oh that they kind of switched into we're gonna unite the country and we're we're better than Trump and all this stuff, and it was pretty pretty weak sauce in my opinion, nothing particularly worthwhile. And then it's the usual stuff they want. They want to take your guns, they want to take your money, they want to pay for all of your stuff. But they're

gonna take your money first. They're gonna give you free everything after they take your money and they take your guns, and they take your rights and take your freedom. But they're gonna battle that big, mean bully known as climate change. They're gonna punch climate change. We're right in the nose, yeah, folks.

The Democrats on that stage are almost entirely, almost to a person, un serious, a deeply unserious bunch, none of whom you would look at and say, well, this person is an individual of tremendous reputation and accomplishment beyond being a politician. Wasn't a quite interesting last I mean, with the exception of Andrew Yang, who is really a novelty candidate, let's be serious about this, who on that stage last night is a person who's done anything other than be

a politician? Really, Oh, Elizabeth Warren was a professor for for a while and then she'd be okay. And Kamala Harris was a prosecutor. Okay. Anybody think that their records on either of those things make them good choices to be the leader of the free world. You know, Mayor Pete, I know he served in the Navy, Navy Reserve. I

always think it's interesting, how, you know leftists. If you're a Naval Reserve intelligence officer, the left of you and you're a democrat, you're the equivalent to democrats of Rambo. But someone like me that it's like, oh, I was a CI officers in a a rock enough gettis and the like, Yeah, whatever, go make some more cappuccinos, which I always want to say. I hate to break it to you guys. Mayor Pete was also drinking plenty of cappucci, you knows, and cobble.

I'm just gonna say it. I'm just gonna say it. A lot, a lot of coffee time, a lot of in the rear with the gear. So I always think that's a little bit interesting to see how that plays out, right, the left when they when they have a veteran there, they expect everyone to be, oh my gosh, how could you question anything about this man? Then you get all

these people on the right. Now I'm not a veteran, of course, but you get all these people to write that either we're veterans or have war zone service, which I do have to their country, and it's like, yeah, whatever, Like what did you really do? So I'm just gonna

show you the left really has no principles whatsoever. They're just full of emotion and want power, and I think are ultimately be set with a deep intellectual insecurity because they have to hold all these contrary and hypocritical, hypocritical positions all the time. But on the substance of the debate itself, I mean, yeah, you basically have a lot of career politicians on the stage repeating the same stuff. Very little ideological diverse city on that stage, very little, uh.

I mean even within the Democratic Party, you know, there's no one that you say, oh, that person has a really different take. They see things in a way that at least it's worth having a real conversation about. You know, the place where they they had their most uh, you know, their nastiest exchange was really over over healthcare, and everyone's like, ooh, Julian Castro went for went for Biden. Here's here's how that whole thing. Here's how that whole thing went. They

wouldn't have to buy in. That's a big difference, because Barack Obama's vision was not to leave ten million people uncovered. He wanted every single person in this country covered. My plan would do that. Your plan would? We do not have to buy in. They do not have to buy it. You just said that. You just said that two minutes ago. You just said two minutes ago that they would have to buy in. You said they would have to buy

in to buy in if you qualify. Are you forgetting you said informed, you said, jey already what you said just two minutes ago. I mean, I can't believe that you said two minutes ago that they had to buy in, and now you're saying they don't have to buy You're forgetting that. I mean, look, grandmother, who has no money. Healthcare system automatically enrollally enrolls people regardless of whether they choose to opt in or not. If you lose your job,

for instance, his healthcare plan would not automatically enroll you. You You would have to opt in my healthcare plan. Would That's a big difference. I'm fulfilling, fulfilling the legacy of Barack Obama, and you're not. I would be surprised to him here Yang whoa. This was? This was a spicy exchange of the whole night that everyone's oh my gosh, here is serious? What was noteworthy about this? For one? Uh,

Medicare for all is is a joke. It's not funny because it would ruin healthcare in this country and would would bankrupt this But it's just it's not a serious proposal. Back to my these are unserious people. You can't do Medicare for all. It wouldn't work. We don't have the medical resources to do it. We don't have the funds

to do it. You could not do it. The Medicare system as we know it right now would not be magnified times ten because of all of a sudden politicians waving a wand and saying, okay, now that's going to work. We don't have the doctors, the hospitals of facilities to handle that. Usage rates would skyrocket. People would all expect to be able to see doctors for whatever they want, whenever they want it. You know what comes after that rationing waiting. But it's fun to promise free things. It's

popular to promise for people believe it. There can be a lot of free stuff and there's no there's no cause and effect here, there's no supply and demand. It's just whatever they tell you you should get, that's what you should get. But on the more personal level, here Castro saying to buy and you know, you know, did you forget what you said two minutes ago? Uh? If he had said it once, I might I might be willing to buy that. It was just he was in

the heat of the debate. But when he kept saying, did you forget wink wink what you said to you know, he might as well thrown in there, Hey old man, did you lose your glasses because they're around your neck? Oh, you know, it could have been like that, Hey old man, where's your sippy cup? Did you forget what you said two minutes ago? That's what Castro. That's what Castro was doing. And you know what, if Castro wants to fight that way, that's his call. But today he's saying, oh, that's not

what I bet. Oh, that's not what I bet. Of course, not I thing. You get Democrats, they're willing, they're willing to to to throw the low blow, you know, they're really they're willing to throw some kidney punches when the ref isn't looking. And then when they get caught, they go, I didn't do that. Oh I wasn't throwing kidney punches. I wasn't. Yeah, it's out. That's not the case. That's that is what he was doing. That was very clearly I think what was going on there. Oh, here's but

since we're talking healthcare, was there big? Oh? Should we have here? Let me tell you this, folks. They're gonna whoever the eventual candidate is, it's gonna be expanding on Obamacare. It's not going to be Medicare for all, whoever wins this, this race for the Democrats, because Medicare for all. When when you're finally forced to deal with the reality and then Bernie Sanders is talking about thirty thirty trillion dollars,

a thirty trillion dollar program. If that doesn't scare you, if you don't think that, now we're talking about maybe our currency is gonna be worthless one day. You know, I don't know what to tell you thirty trillion with a T. Here's what Elizabeth Warren says about a thought shape my Lizaeth Warren. Sometimes I choke up a little bit just trying to do my Lizbeth Warren. It's very hard, I think, my my, my vocal cords rejected. But here's what she had to say about healthcare. I've actually never

met anybody who likes their health insurance company. I've met people who like their doctors. I met people who like their nurses. I've met people who like their pharmacists. They met people who like their physical therapists. What they want is access to healthcare on Medicare for all. Costs are going to go up for wealthier individuals, and costs are going to go up for giant corporations. But for hard working families across this country, costs are going to go down.

And that's how it should work. It's not true. It sounds kind of nice, right, it sounds like maybe that's fair, it's a good idea. It's just not true. There's not enough money. You're not gonna able to tax. They're rich enough to pay for the programs that she says that they're going to pay for. And this is why the countries that do, the countries that do have a socialized, entirely socialized healthcare system Rember. Parts of our healthcare system

are already socialized. It's already socialist. The countries that have that, the middle class pay much higher taxes because there are far far more people in the middle class, and therefore, ultimately that's really where the money is. The money in this country, you know, for the tax base is on on a you know, yeah, yeah, the one percent pays a lot, but it's really the top twenty percent of earners, and that gets you into middle and upper middle class territory.

That's that's where the money really is. In the aggregate, it's about the top fifth of earners are paying a vast majority of the federal income taxes. That's not just gonna and you start thinking yourself, okay, well, who makes into that? Who makes it into that? And that wrong of of income. It's not just a super rich at all.

A lot of people working very hard to income households, people who work for the state, people who are small business owners, working very long hours, and you know, then they have to deal with the costs of things that keep going up and keep getting worse, And the Libs never stop and think, why is that the case. Why do electronics get cheaper and better and faster all the time,

but healthcare doesn't. Why are cars more comfortable, better, more technologically you know, efficient and sound, and yet college keeps getting more and more and more expensive. Ah. Well, you know, there are very big government programs that determine things like the price of healthcare and determine things like how many people can go to school, take out loans to go to school, and therefore it pushes up prices all the time. Whatever you need to bar, you're just going to borrow

from the government. You don't need any credit history, you're not. They don't look at your credit risk. It's just okay, you want to go to school. Government's going to give you a big check to go to school. You know that means schools can set whatever price they want because the government's effectively saying that, you know, they're backstopping these loans and people are on the hook for them. They can't get out of them, and they're gonna be paying

it off forever. So the areas that the Democrats complain about so much. Are the very areas where you've already seen the I'm from the government and I'm here to help mentality, and all they do is mess things up, but they don't learn. You know, would have been interesting last night if just maybe, just maybe there could have

been a little focused on something called the economy. I don't mean in the very general Oh but you know we're gon we're gonna have the rich pay and the middle clash will no, I mean, what would democrats do differently than Trump in office? Raised taxes and invest in things? They keep saying invest in things as if the federal government is a good venture capitalist. The federal government is a terrible venture capitalist if you look at its history

is not good. And that just means spending your money without you getting a say in it. That just means spending spending your money on your behalf. It's really actually spending your children and your grandchildren's money. The federal government doesn't have any money to invest. It just takes money from you. What would they do to make the economy better? What could be done? And when they talk about lowering prices, I want to have a discussion about forget about making

college free, how about making college two years? How about improving and increasing the pipeline that people have out of high school into real on the job training. I mean, here's a thought. I could have very easily gone out of college and up I got to get at break here. I was about to completely revolutionize the college pipeline and

change education forever and basically solve all problems. And Yami, but producer John and producer Market telling me, we have to go to a commercial because we actually have to pay for the show. So let's let's do that. Let's go into a pay for the show moment. We'll come right back. Every time something good about Barack Obama comes up, he says, oh, I was there, I was there. I was there. That's me too. And then every time somebody questions part of the administration that we were both part of,

he says, well, that was the president. I mean, he wants to take credit for Obama's work but not have to answer to any questions. Cast stro really clearly had a strategy last night, and that was essentially committing elder abuse against Joe Biden, just being mean to Joe Biden. I do not think it worked for him. I think Biden more or less and just say he held his own I mean, he was Biden. So I don't think that you can really think there's much more to it

than that he's going to maintain where he is. It was, in fact, Kloba Shar who came out. Cloba Shar came out and people were like, wow, she's actually not completely insane, And that is a big differentiator among Democrats now tells you a lot about where the Democratic Party is. That someone can just be up there and say, look, you know, we can talk about some stuff and I'd like the country to do well, and i want everyone to think I'm doing a good job. And I'm like, whoa, who

is this lady? Where did she come from? Because on the other side, you've just gotten nothing but nothing but crazy town going on here. Beto mayor Pete, I mean Mayor. You know, Castro was going after Castro, was going after Biden all the time, and Buddha Judge just can't help. But he's always attacking, always attacking Mike Pence and then also always attacking Trump supporters. Do you think that people can support precedent Frump and his immigration policies are racist?

Anyone who supports this is supporting racism. It's kind of a dodge there, right. Anybody who supports this is supporting her. So if you support racism, aren't you a racist? Just say may repeat say it? You know, come on, may repeat? Tell us what do you really think? Why? Why hold back on this one? And I also said that he thought that he had some nasty words to say about Mike Penns. He really doesn't like Mike Penns, which seems

very strange to me. So we might get to tell you a little bit about the the reasons for the klobaschar Jump Oh and Felicity Huffman. Remember the whole college admission scandal. We got something for you on that and some other news and your emails because we have an email address now. Later on the show, it's gonna be an amazing roll call session with emails. We're gonna party like it's nineteen ninety nine. I believe that what unites us up here, the ten of us, is much stronger

than what divides us. And I think that's true of our country too. Now. I may not be the loudest person up here, but I think we've already got that in the White House. Houston. We have a problem. We have a guy there that is literally running our country like a game show. He would rather lie than lead. I think we need something different. I am someone that tells the truth. I don't make promises that I can't keep.

I have people's back, and I believe that to win, you bring people with you, and that is how you govern as well. So you're going to hear a lot of ideas up here. Some will be great, but if you see that some of them seem a little off track, I've got a better way. If you feel stuck in the middle of the extremes and our politics, and you are tired of the noise and the nonsense, You've got a home with me. Because I don't want to be the president for half of America. I want to be

the president for all of America. By far, the least sanctimonious, insane, annoying, worthless opening statement of any of the ten candidates on the stage. I have made my fair share of jokes about Cloba Shar, like Klobaschar the Terrible, She will throw things at you, she is terrifying. How cooled you, you idiot? I will hit you with my stampler. Uh you know like that. I don't know why she became Russian all of a sudden, but she did. But she had a

good night last night. And you will recall, I'm just gonna say it, well, somebody named Buck Sexton told you that she's a likely VP candidate. Guess what happened last night? She became she's now I can tell you for the for the big three of Bernie Biden, Warren, Cloba Shar's a a top three I think for all of them. I bet she's a top three VP candidate. I mean, I'm just making up. I can't know this one or

the other. And I'm not even sure they thought about V candidates, but I'm just gonna say it, Cloba Shar makes a lot of sense for them. She doesn't come across as a woke left wing social justice loon, and that in and of itself is a major point of differentiation from the rest of these Democrat candidates out there. So I think that part of it was good. But there's an interesting moment that happened last night that was during the debate, but it wasn't a part of the debate.

Republican Elizabeth hang Ran an ad during the Democrat debate in which Okazio Cortez's photo catches on fire and is replaced by the atrocities of Pulpot's regime. Photos of the atrocities of Pulpot's regime in Cambodia, to show that socialism in so many places ruins lives, ends lives, is a destructive force, is a force for tyranny and slavery. And this is what the ad sounded like. This is the face of socialism and ignorance. Does Alexandro Cassio Cortez know

the horror of socialism? My father was minutes from death in Cambodia before a forced marriage saved his life. That's socialism, forced obedience, starvation. Mine is a face of freedom. My skin is not white. I'm not outrageous, racist, nor socialist. I'm a Republican. And she ran that ad and wow did they did? They lose their minds and left about

this one thing I thought was so interesting. Michael McFall, who I believe is a former ambassador I think ambassador of Russia and claims to have been a teaching about socialism for thirty years or something. He tweeted out that Paul Pot has nothing to do with socialism. That's one of those things that how can anyone say something so stupid? Actually, Bernie Sanders said the dumbest thing of the whole night. But we'll get to I'm gonna hold you gotta hold that.

Who wins the prize for the single stupidest statement of the entire Democrat debate? Bernie Sanders one, I won? What do I get prize? Will I get the two tickets to Venezuela speaking which You're never gonna get two tickets

to Paradise again? Guys, I know, sad any Money not as well known as many of the other you know, his songs are super I feel like people don't know Edny Money, you know, but you put on his songs and it just takes you back to the era of hair bands and juke boxes in dive bars in cities across America. We got two tickets to Paradise, Yeah, just like that. A little better than that, but yeah, he passed away. Guys, Any Money is no longer. Although I think which is a better song that or take Me

Home Tonight? They're both bangers. They're both bangers, well said Ill, said producer Mark and producer John appreciate Eddie Moneies. They celebrate his whole catalog, all this stuff. He's great. Yeah, he passed away to it. I usually don't do the you know. I was like, you know, Bernie Sanders, I got two tickets to Venezuela. I'm going where they don't have toilet paper because I'm Bernie and I love socialism.

It's just outrageous, outrageous that Bernie Sanders is propagating the very ideology that has led to this deprivation that's led to shortages of milk on the shelves. And they actually didn't when I was gonna sumble, when I was in a Ruba, they told me that people were showing up from Venezuela to buy paper products because they can't get them. So even people who are wealthy enough to afford it can't even find it, so they go to a Ruba and try to buy because the Ruba is very close

to Venezuela. I think that Mike McFall said that Paul Pott is nothing of socialism other than being a Marxist socialist. Yeah, he's got nothing to do with socialism. I just can the people that pretend to be educated know something in this country. That would be such a help those with the fancy credentials and that walk around to the you know, holding themselves up as paragons of education and knowledge. So

many well educated buffoons running around it. Really, does you want to talk about an institution that I'm not sure it's going to survive the current generation, the advanced degrees in the humanities cast I don't think that people really care about that very much anymore. Well, I have a PhD in comparative literature, So what does that mean exactly? He's been way too much time reading books and not really doing much beyond that, and not necessarily learning anything

from those books deconstructing them anyway. I like this, Elizabeth, But by the way, can we get Elizabeth hang on the show. I've never I've never even heard of her until last night. Do you guys know Elizabeth hingg Fresno, California. Huh? She wrote? AOC response is the Democratic Party in a nutshell? They're more offended by truthful words than the acts of their political ideology that has killed millions of innocent victims. I don't care about AOC feelings. I care about stopping

her lies and the lies of socialism. Because AOC wrote, Republicans are running TV ad setting pictures of me on fire to convince people they aren't racist. Life is weird. No, that's not what they were doing. She also wrote, No, this wasn't an ad for young conservatives of color. That was the pretense. What you watch was a love letter to the GOP's white supremacist case. Wow. Do you have an Asian American woman who doesn't like socialism and runs

an ad against it and AOC says it's racist. It's almost like it's very a very predictable response from somebody who is very dishonest in debates. We got more of the Democrat debate and owe so much more on this show. Stay with me first and foremost. I want to hit that point because we know Donald Trump's a racist, but there is no red bagged of courage for calling him that. If racism exists, the question is who isn't a racist? It's who is and isn't doing something about racism. And

this is not just an issue that started yesterday. It's not just an issue that we hear a president that can't contemn white supremacy. We have systemic racism that is eroding our nation. From healthcare to the criminal justice system, and it's nice to go all the way back to slavery, but dear God, we have a criminal justice system that is so racially biased. We have more African Americans under criminal supervision today than all the slaves in eighteen fifty.

We have to come at this issue attacking systemic racism, having the courage to call it out, and having a plan to do something about it. If I president of the United States, we will create an office in the White House to deal with the problem of white supremacy and hate crimes. A few weeks ago, a shooter droves I want to actually, I want to jump in here. We can get to do what William Castor said in

a moment, I want to jump in here. And Corey Booker is still very much trying to find his footing in this presidential contest where he goes from being a

wannabe to being a real player. And he's talking about what white supremacy, which is something that I would really be curious to hear of any of these Democratic candidates try to define because I used to think that white supremacy and I should say I thought this because this is what it was white supremacy was an ideological position that white people are superior to non white people, and that violence, even in the defense and propagation of white

culture was justified. Ie neo Nazis, you know, white nationalists, etc. That's what why, that's what white supremacy. If you're a white supremacist, you used to be somebody who had you know, Swastika's tattooed on you. You were a skinhead, you were violent, you were a thug. Now they use white supremacy to discuss the criminal justice system in this country. Okay, well,

let's let's unpack that for a moment. When he said, and this is mc corey, this is just what Cory Booker went into there, that there are more African Americans in this country under criminal supervision today than there were ever slaves in this country. One is I don't I don't really understand those are That's not a comparison. It seems like that's just an It seems like a non sequitor.

I don't understand how that's really illustrating any point. But for the African Americans who are under criminal supervision, I assume he means some kind of post release supervision parole or or you know, some of the other criminal procedures that are in place for when you when you get out probation parole. These are different things, similar ideas. Is he saying that that all those African Americans that are

under that supervision are innocent? I mean, we get into this discussion about criminal justice and criminal justice reform a lot, and I would just like to know what is the contention here, Because there are a disproportionate number of African Americans who are under supervision after a criminal conviction, is that, on its face immediately evidence of racism and the criminal justice system, Because you know, you started to get into Okay, there are different there are crimes for which there is

a disproportionality of those who commit different crimes. Here as an example, if I were to tell you that white collar crimes were disproportionately committed by white men, right, you would say, yeah, that is not surprising. So if I then claim that white collar crimes, that there is a bias in the white collar criminal divisions of usually federal courts all across the country against white males, you would laugh at me. You would just say, no, I mean,

there's just more white guys who are breaking those laws. Right, there's a disproportional number of white guys who are breaking those laws. And I'd say, okay, what about sexist bias? Look at murder convictions. Men commit almost all of the murders in this country. Is that, in and of itself evidence of an anti male bias in the justice system? And really think about this for a moment, because this this is the way the liberals will say, we have

x out of African American males who are under supervision. Now, if they want to get rid of post incarceration supervision or a limit it, that's a discussion. I'm for criminal justice reform. I'm just not for Oh, our criminal justice system is full of white supremacy. Huh. I would need a better explanation of what the heck that's supposed to mean, because it's a rather inflammatory charge. And oh, by the way,

you know, in other contexts. And we'll talk about this in a few minutes with we'll talk about some things that Eric Holders has said about Trump attacking the DOJ. But to say the criminal justice system is in some way that there is white supremacy in it is to say that it is an unjust system, and that must be considered an attack on an institution. It must be, so it should be justified at least if that's going

to happen. And I think that Corey Booker is being a bit disingenuous here by just saying that that the system, because of the number of people who are, for example, on post conviction under post conviction supervision, is what it is. Then there's clearly a problem in the system. Are these people who have broken the laws or not? As we know?

Another another thing, another addition to our discussion of criminal justice should always be that when they talk about non violent drug offenders, it is often the case that the non violent drug offenders were involved in much larger criminal conspiracies, and criminal conspiracies that involve at least the threat, if not the use of force, carrying weapons during drug deals, being a part of a drug gang that threatens other

drug gangs. I mean, that's much more common than you would see from the charge the well, usually from the plea bargains, because in the plea bargains they go with the most readily provable serious crime, and that's often just a possession crime. Know you had a bag of you know,

you had a kilo of heroin in your bag. You're going to prison even if you had a kilo of heroin in your bag, and you're part of a drug gang that's responsible for dozens of murders, and they also have you, you know, on a possible racketeering charge, and they're gonna get you on the twenty years on the kiela of heroin and that's it. They'll get you on the drug trafficking and high level drug possession charge. That that that doesn't mean that people who are going away are

necessarily non violent offenders. So I think that's another place where we just we just need greater clarity than we have in this discussion. And here's the other thing. Democrats seem to have one plan for a criminal justice reform, and it's demonized the police and let more people out of prison. I'm not sure that that's and send people to prison for a shorter period of time. I'm not

sure that's going to work out. So well, you go back in time when there were these very liberal theories about how to deal with crime and criminality, that criminality was more or less an extension of societal ills, that we were responsible for the criminals we create, and therefore we should not punish them too harshly because we all

bear some collective responsibility for their actions. Things got really bad in this country in the seventies and in the eighties and the nineties that a sea change happened, and all of a sudden law enforcement, rule of law, sending people to prison when they break the law. That was the approach, and we've become overall a very safe country. Libs, I think would be at least open to undoing that. And we need to keep an eye and where all

this is going. On August third, in El Paso, Texas, two things became crystal clear for me and I think produced a turning point for the country. The first is just how dangerous Donald Trump is the cost and the

consequence of his presidency. A racism and violence that had long been a part of America was welcomed out into the open and directed to my hometown of El Paso, Texas, where twenty two people were killed, dozens more grievously injured by a man carrying a weapon he should never have been able to buy in the first place, inspired to kill by our president. You know, because I have a lost standing record on this issue. They said, well, do

you think Trump is responsible for what happened. I said, well, look, I mean, obviously he didn't plull the trigger, but he's certainly been tweeting, not the ammunition. Blaming the president for the acts of a psychotic mass murder. That's where Democrats are now, That's that's a pretty standard thing now the Democratic Party that they don't even really try to hide this. They still believe that this is this is fair, this is what they this is what should be done, this

is what should be said. And it's appalling because if they believe this, then I do need just one journalist, please, one journo, to go and ask any Democrat candidate whenever they say this that Trump is responsible for a mass murder,

I need to know. Why is it that Bernie Sanders supporter James Hodgkinson, who attempted very close to successfully a mass assassination of Conservative members of Congress in a baseball field in Alexandria, Virginia during the Trump presidency, yelling this is for healthcare as he was firing off round after round as he hit Steve Scalif. Steve Scalif went through terrible agony, multiple surgeries, almost bled to death on that field.

And then also internally later on during surgeries. It's horrific. If they're going to say that Donald Trump is responsible. I need to know why Bernie Sanders isn't responsible, because Bernie Sanders and all the Democrats make the following claims. Republicans want poor people to not have healthcare and to

die from that lack of healthcare because they're monsters. Republicans, Trump and all who support Trump want small children to be locked in cages and terrified at the border, separated forever from their families, and don't care if children die. Leftists say that we, the Republicans, the Conservatives, and the Trump supporters, aren't willing to make the necessary changes to stop the world from ending, from human life from ceasing

to exist, because we're such gluttonous fossil fuel addicts. If those things are true, if those were true things, wouldn't it be justified to be violent against those on the right if those were real things? And yet they say it over and over again, they say it all the time. I'm not even getting into how they discussed the rise of fascism under Trump and how Trump is a fascist is completely appalling. The stuff that they said. But there's

a huge double standard here, there's a double standard. I also wanted to point out that, you know, who's decided to get a little bit involved in the public debate again, as Eric Holder, I think, is somebody who has escaped far too much of the of the ignominious reputation that he deserves for what he did during the Obama years. But I remember he was a long standing DOJ guy. He's somebody who's also not just a left wing Democrat

who would do whatever was necessary for Obama. Remember Obama's wingman, self described Obama's wingman. Then you also look back at his record as the point person on pardoning Mark Rich, which was as corrupt an act as any president has has taken in my lifetime, probably the most blatantly corrupt one.

I mean, there was more illegal stuff, but the most corrupt thing, which was Mark Rich's wife was a big Democrat donor, so they decided that her husband, who didn't even face the justice system, fled the country, went to Switzerland as financier, would be entirely pardoned right before Clinton was done in office. It was it was absolutely filthy, dirty corruption, and even Democrats now have had to admit this,

you know, who never forget this. You know who the point person was on that pardon I was in quite an alliteration, it was Eric Holder. But now he wants to tell us that Trump is Trump is undermining our institutions, undermining all that is good about the FBI. It is something that really, really, if I can say, it, pisses me off. You know that really really pisses me because I know these people. I worked these people. I was

one of those people. And to see a president of the United States go after the Justice Department, the FBI, the intelligence community in the way that he has is totally inconsistent with what a president or to do. Okay, Eric Holder, explain this to me. If we had a real press, they would ask the following questions. But they'll

never ask that. The people that Eric Holder will do interviews with our Democrats, they're leftists, and they will never ask questions like, well, what are we supposed to think about the fact that the former acting FBI director might be going to prison for lying under oath? What do we think about that? Is that that's not worthy of us taking a moment to consider what kind of people

run these institutions? What are we to think about the fact that James Callmey was fired, and if he hadn't been fired, would have had to be fired for what we learned about his actions while he was at the FBI. Certainly his actions after he left the FBI should deny him a clearance, and he came very close. It was really because of a technicality that he evaded criminal prosecution for what he did that Peter Struck had to be fired from his job, rightly fired from his job, very

very senior FBI counterintelligence agent. Does anyone get to look at these things and say, hold on a minute, there's a real problem here. There's something very very wrong with

this or that. Of course, Hillary Clinton managed to break the Espionage Act, and forget about just the letter and spirit of the Espionage Act for a second, I mean the recklessness of putting classified information on a private server because you want to control your record, because you're such a paranoid lunatic, because everyone knows you're deeply corrupt, which went all true about Hillary Clinton. But we're not supposed to question these institutions. Why and I'll tell you why.

They question these institutions on the left all the time when it suits them. They think that the Department of Justice under a Republican president is racist. The moment that there's a civil rights issue that they want to raise, they'll start talking, Oh, I think that. You know, there's a little bit of racism in the FBI, institutional racism there. They will defend these institutions only so far as it

is in their interests. I was in the CIA when it became the Lib's favorite punching bag because of the Iraq War and the intelligence leading up with the Rock War, and it was constantly being it was being mocked, ridiculed, undermine. I was in the CIA. I remember that, what about all the people in the intelligence community, They're risking their lives and doing all these days. I was one of them.

Little old buck probably could have just, you know, gone to work for a consulting firm somewhere out of college, decided to go into the CIA. Found him flying around in Blackhawk helicopters in Iraq and Afghanistan hoping to not get shot at. And I had to hear on TV and read in newspapers all the time about how the CIA was a bunch of stooges, underperforming. You know, we couldn't stop the Iraq war from happened. So so what my point here isn't oh woe is me? The CI whatever,

I don't care, we didn't care. We thought the journalists are a bunch of a bunch of whimps. Anyway, The point is they defend these institutions for political reasons, not because they actually respect institutions. You see this also with the way they will invoke the Constitution when they think it favors their side in an argument. But in general, they have no problem denigrating the Constitution, saying that it is an outdated, old document written by rich, old white racists.

That's really how they feel about the Constitution. But sometimes I'll say, well what about this amendment or what about that? And you have a similar dynamic at play here with the FBI. There's only so much interest right now in defending and sending up for the FBI because it has been an enemy of the Trump administration at the top level. And it's really the Obama holdovers and the deep state bureaucrats. I know this mentality, I know what these individuals are

like who work for these places. They really do come to think that they're a government unto themselves. That's the American deep state. It's not that there's this secret cabal plotting a coup that is going to roll tanks down Pennsylvania Avenue and all that stuff. It's that there are people who believe that elected officials are really just a

temporary phase in any government. The real government is the permanent government, the fourth branch of government, that is the bureaucracy and eric holder, at least in so far as it's useful to him to say that now, it's taking exactly that position against Donald Trump, the duly elected president and commander in chief. Is not helping the safety and security of the United States. It is not helping the safety and security of the world. It is not helping

the safety and security of Afghanistan. We need to bring our troops home, and then we need to make a big shift. We cannot ask our military to keep solving problems that cannot be solved militarily. We're not going to bomb our way to a solution in Afghanistan. We need to treat the problem of terrorism as a worldwide problem, and that means we need to be working with all of our allies, our European allies, our Canadian allies, our Asian allies, our allies in Africa and in South America.

We need to work together to root out terrorism. It means using all of our tools. It means economic investment, It means expanding our diplomatic efforts. Instead out of hollowing out the State Department and deliberately making it so we have no eyes and ears in many of these countries. We need a foreign policy that is about our security and about leading on our value. What the heck is

she talking about? Just complete nothingness? I mean, just this is that she's talking about fighting terrorism and she managed to say, well, we need to treat it like a worldwide problem. That's funny because when I was in the CIA, we called it the g WATT, the Global War on Terrorism. We're quite aware of it. To work with allies all over the world, all different allies. Yes, what Elizabeth Warren,

We already do that. Now. As I wrote last night on Twitter, I do think we need to be fair that we should hear lizarth Warren out on Afghanistan because we know that she has something of an expertise in tribal conflict. Let that one sit out there for a second. What I'm just saying, she's somebody who doesn't know the first thing about national security. And she's also somebody who likes to talk in these internationalists and deeply multilateral perspectives.

And yet when you really have to push on these issues, these are hard decision. These are hard decisions. These are hard things to figure out one way or the other. You know, are are you going to use drones against terrorist enemies? Are you going to give intelligence to allied countries to get the terrorists themselves? You're gonna trust them with that information? What if all of a sudden they're not doing what if they don't want to do it, or what if they let the person get away? These

are all there's all these difficult considerations. I mean, you just say things like we're gonna work with our allies and we're gonna be cooperative and these are just words without thoughts behind them. And look, Warren is very weak on national security. There's no question Warren is weak on that. That's not an area where she seems to know much. And to say that we don't have any eyes or ears in these countries because of any cutbacks of the

State Department. The State Department has people whose whole job it is and this is from recent travel with the State Department, as well as my time in the government before that. There are people the State Department. I'm pretty sure their job is to keep the pencils sharpened that the deputy Assistant Secretary might use during a day marsh of some kind. The State Department has people for everything. It is a massive overseas jobs program for Americans, and

it really the return on investment. I think the ROI for the State Department is one of the lowest we have for any federal agency. I really do. And I think you get rid of Department of Education first, you don't get rid of the State Department. That's that would be That would be counterproductive, but it could be a lot smaller and a lot more efficient than what it is. We do not need all of these people in all

of these embassies all over the world, just nuts. First of all, the government's there really only want to interact with and any embassy depends on the size of the embassy. The government's really only want to interact with a small number of people, So start with that. I mean, the government's only want to deal with senior level folks. They don't really want to hang out with the third Secretary

at Pachet for Agricultural Affairs or something. I mean, I don't even know what they have, all these weird titles in the State Department. I don't remember it. I was a CIO. We used to make a lot of State Department jokes just the way it is, just the way it is. So there's a look at there. I'll be on. There's a little bit of a rivalry there. I get it. We definitely talk some smack about them, so they definitely talk smack about us too. Do not as cool as

they think they are? Fact check true, we're not as as we think we are in the CIA. But let's get back into what's what's going on here with Warren and talking about fighting against terrorists. I think we've seen from Democrats for many years that they take a different approach to Islamic radicalism, for sure, and that is they like to downplay it and they view it as an all of the above approach where we have to do everything and that will stop terrorism. But they don't understand

that there is a precondition for the primary form. Yes, that's right, the primary form of global terrorism we have faced for my entire adult life, and that is a belief in radical Islam, and we can do as much as we want in all these countries, creating, building brand new schools, setting up jobs programs. USA I D. Shows up all the things that we are already and have been doing for a long time, and that does not

negate the appeal of radical Islamic ideology within these community. Remember, despite what LIBS wants you to believe, most people do not become jihadi terrorists because they're so poor, because they're so desperate. Jihadi terrorists are usually upper middle class, often educated to a graduate degree level, and they do what they do because of what they believe, not really what

has happened to them or their families. A lot of times they will internalize videos of violence against Palestinians, let's say, or violence in Iraq or other war zones. But that in itself is a fascinating process. You know, I could internalize I could read about violence done to you know, the American colonists at the hands of the British a long time ago, and I could internalize that and have some weird hatred of the British. But that would seem

a little strange at this point, wouldn't it. Violence is something that you can always find an excuse for if you're desperate. Two, and that's what the jihadists do. Warren thinks that if we just do everything, which is kind of you know, we'll just have jobs and money and investment. And I come from Oklahoma. I was a school teacher and then I became a professor, and everybody thought I was Cherokee because I told them that. Yep, that's pretty

much all you know about Elizabeth Warren. I am a little surprised that she didn't have a better night, that she didn't have more of a breakout. Clearly, everybody's all, Oh, clover Shard, It's amazing, Look what clover Shard did. I'm scared, man, What if I interview and she throws a comb in my head? You know, she's been known to get a little throws a stapler at me, maybe miss Staper Staper giving me swing line. That's right, it's Frisky Friday up

here in the Buck Sexton Show. We'll be right back. So I got some breaking news for you. It's not really all that important, but you might find it interesting. Felicity Hoffman, you recall she is the actress who was in Desperate Housewives, a show that both producer John and I can admit to never having watched a single episode of not one producer John. My Man card should get

some extra stamps. None of that stuff for me. And I need to establish that now, because all of a sudden, when I start talking about how much I loved t Swift, I'm gonna they're gonna start chipping away at that man card. But Felicity Hoffman was on the show. She's also married to William H. Macy. I think it's a pretty excellent actor. I will say, I think he's pretty good. And so there are a Hollywood you know, Hollywood power couple, all that stuff. And she made a mistake. She did something

that was in retrospect, highly highly unwise. She bribed and SAT consultant to correct her child's her daughter's SAT answers, and this was in a bid to get her to have higher SAT so that she could get on school of her choice. This whole school thing, I mean, this has been going on for a while, but everyone is

so fixated on getting into these elite institutions. I think that there will be a wider recognition going forward that in an age where information is increasingly accessible and democratized if you have I really mean this, if you have a very solid ninth or tenth grade education, meaning if you're really good up till ninth or tenth grade. In my opinion, you can teach yourself if you put your

mind to it. Anything else you need to learn in life, you could teach yourself up to Obviously, you can't teach yourself open heart surgery. But I mean the basics of what you would need, and you know, learning about things, teaching yourself different sub ject matter. You know you need, you need a certain facility with reading and writing, and a very baseline understanding of arithmetic and math and science arithmetic.

Have you done your arithmetic? Sah? But you really know everything you need to know by the ninth grade if you're paying attention. That all said Felicity Hoffman's going to prison kind of buried the lead here. I know she's going to prison. You might be like, wait, wait a second, why is Felicity Felicity Hoffman going to prison? All that's right because she paid an SAT tutor fifteen thousand dollars to try to scam the SAT. So they're sending her

to prison for two weeks. It's not you know, they're not given her the Shawshank lifetime prison sentence here, but she's going away for two weeks. It's the Papadopolis. Remember papadopolis got two weeks also are essentially a non crime. But I mean, this was this was bad. Look she

should have been I said this all along. By the way, people gave me a hard time on Twitter and elsewhere because I was saying originally they were talking about mail fraud twenty years in federal prison, you know, on a service as mail fraud twenty more years and they were facing like eighty years in prison, and there was this this frenzy around. Oh, look at these wealthy white Hollywood types.

Isn't it great if they just get crushed by the federal justices sem And I was sitting around like, come on, guys, it's ridiculous. I gotta got a prison for this. I knew that. I knew that it wasn't going to be a very long prison sentence. But there were some people who were really howling for there to be deterrence in deterrence level enforcement here, meaning make make an example of the people caught up in what they have described the

operations called Varsity Blues Operation Varsity Blues. I don't know how many of you seen that movie, by the way, but the guy who we mentioned Dawson's Creek the other day, Dawson from Dawson's Creek plays the quarterback, and I mean he has like the worst twangy fake accent. I've He's like, I just my name's Johnny Mocks, and I just want to play football and and I just read books, and I'm kind of fancy. I like Shakespeare but also play football and I'm in Have you seen Varsity Blues? You know,

Oh you haven't seen it. Ali Larder's finest movie role. And if you don't know who Ali Larder is, I can tell you she's quite lovely. And I sat next her once at a restaurant in Houston Houston Street, although I did not say anything to her because I was too chicken. Plus I knew that she'd be like, who are you go away? So that was pre Freedom Hunt, though now she'd probably be like, who are you right

wing freak? Go away? Anyway, Felicity Huffman got she's she's getting sent away for two weeks, and there are other people that are probably gonna get some prisons. She also got a twenty or thirty thousand dollars fine. I think our twenty thousand dollars fine. No, I'm thirty thirty whatever. It's like a couple, you know, tens of thousands of a fine and some community service and stuff like that.

And now she's got the whole humiliation thing going on where everyone's just piling on and she's saying she's sorry. She's fifty six years old. Look, I mean she's she's basically gonna, you know, end up doing some light cardio and some knitting for two weeks. You know, I don't think it's really gonna be It's really gonna be like hard time. They're not gonna have her wearing stripes with a ball and chain attached to her ankle and breaking rocks,

you know, old school. That's not what they're gonna be doing to her, So she'll be okay. I think it's just mostly the embarrassment of people don't have ethics, you know, people don't have ethics. But it's also a recognition that or we we should have some recognition that this this school thing has just gotten not a control. People really believe that their child future is inextricably linked to the US News and World Report ranking that their college or

university gets. And I mean Ammerst College was always number one or number two of colleges, not including universities in the country. But like, but like John, who's counting right, NBD, who's counting exactly? A lot of you are like, what's Amherst College. I was like, well, first of all, yeah, I know there are a lot of them are asking that. First of all, you don't pronounce the H. That's the secret.

It's like, say, when you say you're a CIA agent, everyone knows you're full of it because obviously it's CIA officer. When you say you went to Amherst, everybody's like, no, you didn't. You never pronounced the H. My good man, Lord Jeffrey Amherst himself would tell you you never pronounce the H, like William H. Macy. So she's gone away for two weeks. I will say this, I think that the FBI spent real resources on This strikes me as

it's kind of wow. But keep in mind that Felicity Huffman is now a I think, yes, she's a felon. She's a convicted felon spending two weeks in prison and getting a fine. Hillary Clinton violated classified protocols over one hundred times when she was Secretary of State, over a hundred times, including special Access program data. There is a standard in the statute of recklessness. If that is not reckless, nothing is reckless. How many days did Hillary Clinton get

in prison? Zero? How many charges were brought against Hillary Clinton? Zero? Wow, it's you start to say the justice system is unfortunately very politically driven in this country. You know, there are the crime crimes that we all know. You know, you can't beat people, you can't murder people, you can't rape people, you can't steal from people, and we're all like, all right, you know those are things that we can usually you can at least degree, I mean not always. Look the

o J case and look at Duke Lacrosse case. Right. There can be politics involving those crimes, obviously, but you know, usually in those circumstances, we're all more or less on the same side of we want justice for the victims and we want the accused to be punished, and we all know those are bad things. You get into some of these other statutory violations and you just say to yourself when do they press charges and when do they not? You know who gets who gets the slap on the

wrist and who gets made an example of. And it's one of the it's one of the areas of our justice system I think has people losing confidence the most rapidly. It's a big thing. It's a big problem. Do I think that Felicity Huffman got is getting sent to prison for two weeks because they just want to say that she got prison time because she's a celebrity and she's rich and she's white. Yes, yeah, I think that's right.

I think if she were Jane Doe, random middle class housewife who managed to scrap together fifteen ran to pay off some SAT tutor, and I don't I don't think she would know. It's not a lot of prison. I'm not breaking out the world's smallest violin for her. But I do think that there were some political considerations here. I think that people wanted they'd like, they like to see the famous and the powerful suffer, and we should just keep that in mind because some other famous and

powerful people tend to get away with things. She's not known as being explicitly political, so she did not really have least, as far as I know, she doesn't have the leftist cover. It's not like you know, when there's someone coming after and if someone came after Alissa Milano, for example, they would give her the benefit of the doubt because she's a warrior for the left in the ideological battles of today. Anyway, two weeks Desperate Housewives, it's

gonna be quite an episode for those two weeks. Dun Dun, dune. We'll be right back. We are the wealthiest country in the history of the world, and yet we have the highest child poverty rate of almost any country on earth. Could anybody really believe something so stupid? Could? I mean? You know, no, I understand that Bernie defenders. Here's what we said. We're the wealthiest country in the world, but we have among the highest child poverty rates of any

country on Earth. Now I understand that that his defenders are immediately going to say he meant of any developed nation. And to that I would say, all right, even if we're gonna if we're going to assume it that's true for a minute, even if we think that that's true, and I think it probably is, I'm not I'm not gonna play dirty and say that Bernie didn't mean that, although he is uh quasi kami who honeymoon honeymooned in the Soviet Union. So who knows what's really possible for

this guy. But wouldn't you correct yourself right away unless it was all just rehearsed lines and you were the equivalent of a socialist actor up there. We're gonna do this, We're gonna do that. We're gonna have free this and free that, everything free, free, free. The rich will pay, We're gonna return, We're gonna restore all of the good things for the middle class, and the rich people can

go take a long walk off a short pier. So Bernie's obviously somebody that runs on a high degree of emotion here, He's not someone who's deep in the substance. And but saying that we have the highest child poverty rate, I would want to ask of any developed country, how are we measuring that? How are we measuring that? And we say any developed country, what really are are we deciding counts as a developed country? And why would we have such a high child poverty rate when we have

all these programs in place to prevent child poverty. I'm not saying it doesn't exist. I'm just saying we're already doing things to make sure welfare programs are in place to make sure this isn't happening. So the answer is more welfare programs, it seems that's what Bernie Sanders offers up. But you know, both Bernie and Biden to me, just look too old. Last night, they look like they just don't They just don't have the gas and the tank

for this. They don't have enough enough juice and the lemon. Is that a thing? No, it's not. I'm trying to think of. You know, I was gonna keep going with this one, but you know, they really are are lacking a vitality that you're gonna need the president. I understand Trump is kind of old. Does anyone think that Trump isn't a force of nature? Though the guy never looks tired, The guy never looks like he and he also loves

this whole. He loves the fight, he loves the struggle, he loves being the president, he loves running for president. He's being out on the campaign trail, arguing with libs. Bernie and Biden. You really get the sense that they're just hoping that this is the last chapter of their political careers, and that will be the biggest one. But they don't really they don't really have a love for it. That's that's the sense you get. They're just doing it

because they're supposed to do it. That was mine, that was what I was picking up from the last night. I mean, here's here's Biden, for example, who seemed to forget at one point what century he was in. We bring social workers into homes and parents to help them deal with how to raise their children. It's not that theyn't want to help. They don't want to they don't know quite what to do. Play the radio, make sure

the television. Excuse me, make sure you have the record player on at night, the phone, make sure the kids hear words. A kid coming from a very poor school, have a very poor background. We'll hear four million words fewer spoken by the time they get there. There's so much I'm gonna go like the wrist of them. Dude, I don't even know what he's talking about. I think I think that he was starting to say, first of all, that social workers will teach people how to how to

raise their kids. I find that that seems a little problematic. To me. But let's let's just step back for a moment. I do remember when I was when I was at Regis, which was a very excellent institution here in New York City, a Jesuit high school. And I remember when I was there, the headmaster, that's what that's what we called the you know principle. We called them a headmaster. I don't know,

I've never heard that. Really. I think it's like an English school thing where they take, you know, hello headmaster, Hello, drinking tea, eating crumpets, you know, stuff like that. Crumpets John, not to be confused with strumpets. You remember, it's easy to make that mistake. Let me tell you. It's happened the best of us. But you know, I think that

you know you. When I was back at Regis, the headmaster said, it's very one thing he found that was very important was families that ate dinner together when possible. For those of you that are on the road that work a lot of where I understand, but just when you have the choice, eat dinner together and don't have the TV on. These are simple things, but small habits

result in big changes over time. And I do think that's a very and I will say that my family, all six of us, used to gather around a pretty small table in the kitchen. Was very cozy. We had another table in a bigger area, but we usually we started out really being at this little little kitchen table and we would just all be together and all talk,

you know, for dinner. Pretty much every time. My dad would come home pretty late from work a lot of nights, but we try to wait and have dinner together as a family. That matters people. The social skills you pick up from family, the way that your vocabulary expands from talking to adults, and just the sense of support and interest that you get from other from the human beings who are most important to you, the human beings in your family. That stuff all really matters. That. It matters

for educational purposes too. You know, Conservatives pre a lot of individual responsibility, and we usually think of that in terms of our adherence to the law and also economic decisions, right, and you're responsible to obey the law, and you know, if you've signed contracts or you do things financially, that's

on you. I would just add to that that preaching greater individual responsibility not just for kids in school, but for the parents, the parents who have so much influence on children, and just in the encouragement that they can give them to do the right things in the classroom, to study hard, to try hard, to respect the teacher. That stuff all has to come from parents. It really

can't come from a school. And it's unfortunate, but the Left is always trying to give people a reason why they're not going to why they're not responsible for their bad choices. This is just the truth. The Left finds countless ways to tell you that you're a victim whoever you are, that you anything that's gone wrong in your life is a problem. So I just think that this individual responsibility rhetoric should come into the school's discussion a

lot more. The day after I proposed doing that, I went to a gun show in Conway, Arkansas, to meet with those who are selling AR fifteens and AK forty sevens and those who are buying those weapons. And you might be surprised there was some common ground there, folks who said I would willingly give that up cut it to pieces. I don't need this weapon to hunt to defend myself. It is a weapon of war, So let's do the right thing. But let's bring everyone in America

into the conversation. Republicans, Democrats, gun owners and non gun owners alike. What the heck is Beto talking about here? Can we can we just do this for a second, Can we just unpack here a Betoi ism? I do believe that he is a He is actually a liability

for the Democratic Party overall. I think that Beto O'Rourke, the longer he sticks around for them, the likelier it is is that they'll figure out the hard way that this guy is an absolutely zero substance liberal clown and that there's nothing about him that deserves any any serious attention to be a leader of any kind. It's actually a little bit depressing even knowing that he made it

into the Congress. Although keep in mind there's there's a lot of idiots in Congress, a lot of idiots in Congress. So there you have it. What do we have here now? With Oh, yes, he was saying that he met people who were selling air fifteens at a gun show. I'm not gonna say he's lying entirely here. It would be a little too egregious for him to never have actually gone to a gun show. Although I don't know, I mean, did he really go or did he just kind of

walk past it? You know, was he really there? So Bedo says he went to a gun show and he said that there were people there who were willing to

cut up their AR fifteens. And this reminds me of some of the stupidity that we've seen in the past where individual there was one guy who made a video of himself destroying his own AR fifteen and, as someone pointed out, because he sawed off the barrel of it first, he actually had created an illegal yeah, because there are barrel length of requirements for a rifle like that, and he'd actually created it effectively in an illegal modified car being version of the AR fifteen, like a sawed off

AAR Which was kind of funny because guy turned himself into you know, he created thought he was being really cool and woke, and he committed a felony in the process. So it's probably not something that he wants to be doing. But this is why you know that there is an irrationality to this. There's no way you can explain if you're a law abiding citizen and a person who means his fellows a fellow Americans, no harm. You're destroying a

weapon you have. This is This is intellectually indistinct from me saying I have a chef knife and I'm going to I'm gonna break this chef knife in half because I don't want it to fall into the wrong heads. Producer Mark, Producer John. This chef knife could do a lot of damage. I don't want it to fall in the wrong heads. Somebody might use it to cut up parsnips or something. You should never cut up vegetables. Only bacon, exactly,

slice bacon, be happy. True story speaking. I don't know why I was thinking chef and then this immediately jumped into my mind. This is a digression from the Beato gun discussion. But it's Friday, so I just want to do it anyway. I don't I don't really care. This is the most French thing ever and it was on France twenty four the news sites. We'll go back to guns in a second where it's Friday. Kickback, relaxed. Don't worry, the guns will still be there. French arm found liable

after employee dies during sex on the business trip. Yes, my friends, this is very true. A French court has ruled that a businessman who was making the travel, he was also making the love and unfortunately, ah, he had a cardiac how do you say it? His heart went caput and it was no longer functioning. So now he is having the the family sue because they say he may have been how do you say it, in passion, But it was passion in the pursuit of business, my friends.

So this French court has ruled that this guy can sue for on the his family can sue for a work related death because he was getting getting his busy on during business trip and died, which I know a lot of guys out there right now are kind of going until I want to go. We all always say that, but probably not. Yeah, I want to know was the relations helping his business at all? Because that's what I would argue as a judge, or is the counter lawyer? What was what is the business? What do you mean?

You know? Was he making love to somebody from the business like you give me a temper or see discount, I give you the night of your three Because it was just a random woman or man whatever he's into. Then what what how does this random involved with business? That doesn't make any sense? Yes, here's the questions for his the mount himself. But he's no longer with us. No, how do you prove anything he is in that that great baguette in the sky. Is that where French people go? Yes?

Or that that wonderful parfit of the clouds. So yeah, man Um died on the job. Died on the job, and the company now has to pay all benefits, uh because his responsible his death was the responsibility of the company, because he was just doing you know, because you know, you and me ain't nothing but mammals. So that's what happened. You guys, remember that song. That song was amazing. I missed that. I mean I must have watched that music video a million times when I was like in high

school or whenever it came out. All right, So I'm sorry. I know there's a total digress. I want to I want to go back. You know what, I'm gonna come back into into the gun situation in a second. We got a little I get a little off track. I just had to tell you guys that story about you know,

first of all, the French. You know they're crazy, but they're crazy like they're crazy like ze ex girlfriends that you can't stop seeing even though you know she is bad for you, like a gal wise, it is so either is so wonderful and yet so very donjer rouse. Uh French people, man, I don't know how they do what they do. But good times. All right, we're gonna come back. We got more on. Betto wants to take your guns away. He's anti fun. He drops f bombs

for no reasons. He knows nothing about firearms. That is not a surprise. He's still he's still in my least favorite, my least favorite Democrat category of all. I mean, John, if I had to tell you that there was one Democrat that you could just vote off the island right away, who would it be? Betto? You're great, Yeah, he's He's just a punk. He's just the worst. We're just a mark. You have one that's the most who's the most annoying.

Basically just not counting de Blasio anymore. See, you're a real New Yorker because you never you never take her eye off the ball here exactly. He's in his campaign end though no I thought he didn't suficially drop out yet, Oh he hasn't. Yeah, you're right, he didn't make the debate, but he hasn't dropped out yet. You're right, he still thinks he's gonna win somehow. As a New Yorker, I feel like we should all just be like, no, no,

de Blasio. He's the worst. He's just the worst. I don't mind the Blasio being in because the further he is from New York, the better it is for New York. Like, I really think that, you know, there's a bunch of food trucks that are out here in Midtown, and I think if we went out, if I could just do like three minute interviews with a bunch of the food cart guys. I really mean this. I think some of those guys who are small business owners, hard working family men,

I think I would take them over to Blasio. Like, if I could switch one of them, you know, I'd want one of like the guys that's operating one of the more successful food cards. But I'm just saying, understand, small business, hard work, diligent work, ethic, all that stuff. The Blasi was none of that. The guy who created the Hellal guys, the famous truck right down the street here, is he really Yeah? You didn't they have franchises now they're all over Long Island. We'd we'd be lucky to

have that guy as the man. Exactly lucky. I mean, I want to I want to get him to campaign right now. Anything but the Blasio who drives forty minutes each way to get to a gym. He's in Manhattan. He drives to a gym in Brooklyn so he can do four minutes on the elliptical, like a lady who's taking a break in between Martini's. Like, this is ridiculous, ridiculous. I think they have gyms in New York. Last night checked in Manhattan, last time I checked. They're very expensive too.

All right, all right, so I'm gonna co I'm gonna come back. We're gonna do some We're gonna do some more bedo bashing because that needs to happen. It's fun to bash the beducks is the worst? Stay with me. Are you proposing taking away their guns? And how would this work? I am if it's a weapon that was designed to kill people on a battlefield, him, I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. All guns are designed to kill. Let's just understand that a firearm, by its very nature is does it now, there are many ways you can use it. You can use it to kill pheasant or you can use it to kill people, right, you can well depends on the firearm. But lethality is in fact, the purpose of a firearm doesn't mean you have to shoot it. It just means if you have it, you have the chance or the option of lethality at anyway, continue with

bedos idiocy. If the high impact, high velocity round when it hits your body shreds everything inside of your body, because it was designed to do that. Again, that is what a bullet does, so he could do the soul. I mean the bullet that it fires. It's like really hard. Like the bullets are not soft, they're not water soluble. They will like go into flesh and like that totally hurts. Like when the bullet goes in, you're just like omg,

because like that's what you say. And then well, I'm pretty sure there's blood that you would bleed to death on a battlefield and not be able to get up

and kill one of our soldiers. When we see that being used against children and in Odessa, I met the mother of a fifteen year old girl who was shot by an ar fifteen and that mother watched her bleed to death over the course of an hour, because so many other people were shot by that AR fifteen in Odessa, in Midland, there weren't enough ambulances to get to them in time. Hell, yes, we're gonna take your AR fifteen,

your akte. I mean, this is what I talk about with the emotional blackmil He's telling his horrible story about people getting shot by the way. He could tell the exact same story every weekend. Every weekend, he could tell a story about somebody going through tremendous pain, bleeding out, dying, being lost to family members, And he could tell it in inner city Chicago, you could tell it in parts of New Orleans, parts of Baltimore, tappening all the time.

The process of bullet and wound and bleed out and pain and anguish in death that is going on throughout the country, overwhelmingly in involving handguns, and disproportionately affecting minority communities and coming from the criminal element, not the mass shooter psychotic element. And yet bedos whole focus is on R fifteens. If you do the math on it, over

ninety nine point nine nine percent. I don't even know how many decimals we can go over ninety nine point nine nine nine nine nine percent of AAR fifteen owners have never harmed another human being with their rifle, would never want to harm another human being with their rifle, and if anything, they make their households, themselves, their communities safer, and it makes the government think a little bit sometimes, especially as we're having these discussions about how they might

come for our guns, makes the government think long and hard about we're really going to send people a door to doorsey. I know the most law enforcement if given that order, at least law enforcement that I know, they were told go door to door. We think this person may have it. What was a legal AR fifteen, but we've now federally banned it because we're a bunch of lib commies. I know most law enforcement officers that I know, I can't speak for all of them would say okay.

They would either accept the order and not do it, or they would just reject the order outright. You're really going to tell Texas sheriffs to go bother people that have had a R fifteens for twenty years, thirty years, never heard a person with it, and you're gonna tell them they're gonna go kick in the door and take it with force. I don't think so. And what Betto is advocating here is actually crazy. It's dangerous. I mean, I mock Betto because it's important to make fun of

what an imbecile this guy is. But his ideas are scary. And when he's talking about how you know, he looks at one shooting and one shooting that involved the semi automatic rifle, and he's getting into graphic detail and about the loss and about everything else that surrounds it. I just say, in response to this, people get shot all the time across this country and Democrats aren't outraged about it.

Where are the Democrats calling for marches in cities where there is a predominantly black on black violent crime epidemic. There's not really a discussion about that. And this is not just oh that that's one issue, and then there's this other issue of the issue that I'm talking about. Criminal violence that disproportionately affects and minorities are disproportionately the victims of that violence as well as disproportionately affecting their communities.

You know, the perpetrators of that violence are obviously disproportionately African American and Latino, and those being shot are disproportionately African American and Latino. You would think that that and the numbers overall, the aggregate numbers are much higher than what you see in mass shootings, but there's so much less urgency because it's really not first and foremost about stopping gun violence. It is about the left winning control

and truncating the Second Amendment. That's what they are first and foremost conservative. If there were some reduction and violence, they're fine with that as an afterthought, but a reduction and violence is not the primary purpose. A reduction and violence is is something that if they can get it, fine. What they really want is to take people's guns away,

take people. There are millions and millions of a R fifteens in circulation in this country, in legal citizens hands, millions, and we're talking about this reminds me a little bit. I'm just gonna say it. Oh, the whole vapist area. There are millions and millions of people that are vaping. We've got six people that died and now they're saying they're going to ban it all. And we should know what the health effects are, we should know, there should be studying of it. But I don't know banning it.

You know, six out of a million. You should see what the statistics are for you know, a basic medical procedure. You know if you go if you go under a general anesthesia, there's a chance you might die. Doesn't mean you get rid of all general anesthesia procedures, right, And you have to look at the percentages. You have to

look at what the risk calculations are in life. And one of the things that Democrats do is they greatly exaggerate certain risks and they downplay others based on their political choices based on what they would like to have happening from a government perspective, instead of what should happen based upon the numbers. So oh and bet of course

Better also wants background checks, no surprise there. I'm worried that we won't take action because we've been compromised by the politics and the polling and the worries about what the candidate's gonna do. If we say the right thing, the true thing, the necessary thing. So I'm gonna say the necessary thing, which is background checks are important, red

flag laws essential. We should stop selling weapons of war, but if we leave ten million of them out there, they will become the instruments of terror that we've seen in El Paso, in Midland, Odessa, in Sutherland Springs. And those are just three mass shootings in our state, but all across this country. So we've got to do the right thing. Background checks are important, red flag laws are essential.

We should stop selling weapons of war. A handgun is a weapon of war, which I know from being in two war zones and carrying a handgun, among other things. A handguns a weapon of war. A knife is a weapon of war. A simple bolt action rifle is a weapon of war. This is just this is just blather from Betto and he has really latched onto this issue because he thinks that this is a way that he

can distinguish himself. I think from his colleagues is he just he doesn't care about the Second Amendment at all. He's just like, whatever we have to do in order to shut down the pro gun people, that's where we're going to go. If I believe that they had an idea, a law that would save lives and was not a threat to people rights on a massive scale, I'd say absolutely, let's do it. They don't have that plan, and they definitely have lots of plans that will harm Second Amendment rights,

no question about it. Hey, Team buck it's time for roll calls. Man. People like Team Bucket. iHeartMedia dot com as our new our new email address. Very exciting for the show. You know, this is very exciting everybody. We have not one, but two very special producers here in the house today. We have producer Mark, who you know who is running the ship now day to day of the Freedom Hunt. And he's the one he's you know, like in Shawshank how Morgan Freeman's the guy who can

get stuff done. That's his tagline. That's producer Mark. I'm the guy who crawls through a couple of hundred yards of raw sewage to get to get to freedom. That's my That's what I do here. I guess my job is to shovel the raw sewage out of the way. Thank you, Yeah, exactly. And then we have also producer John here with us, who some of you will recall. Producer John was my very first technical producer, person running the board, just making sure the show is what it's

supposed to be. John. How long ago was that now? What are we we're looking at? Six seven, seven years? I think was twenty thirteen at least maybe twenty twelve. Right, so it's six or seven years now. We're going back. So have you been, by the way, we haven't seen you a little while. What's going on? I'm doing all right. I spoke to you like two weeks ago, didn't I yeah, I mean, just roll with this, all right. We're doing a little bit of chit chat here on the radio show.

John John cannot tell a lie. Yeah. I do the technical stuff and you just want to talk. That's correct, That is true. Don't don't forget this is role call that okay. I know that means it's other people's time to talk. See John keeps John m. Mark both keep me on the on the straight and narrow. So you guys like writing any emails? So now this is this is a thing that we have learned the last twenty four hours. The email box exploded with the messages. So that's fun, which and now we have it. I get

these emails, Producer Mark gets these emails. Are it goes to our team box here. So you are all if you want to write any email team buck at iHeartMedia dot com. It's very easy and it will get right to us. So all right, if you have any if you have any bribes you know that you want to send me for doing certain segments or something. You know, if you I'm just saying that's now you want to send me the you know on the email box. No,

not like real bribes like FCC violation stuff. Calm down, all right, uh David Right, I've been following you since real News. I'm seventy something thing you Beck and a few others. Keep me informed. God blessing Shields High. Well, David, welcome to Roll Call, and thank you so much for writing in Paul. Thanks to producer Mark. You're getting a lot of love. By the way, apparently, you know, you take over the ship here and all of a sudden

things happen and now everyone's like, oh, producer Mark. Yeah, I love all the emails that say thank you, Producer Marcus. It's pretty much all of the wonderful. Thanks to producer Mark for setting up the new address. With my strong distaste of Facebook, I appreciate a way to reach out. Before I give the customary Shields High, I need an update on Shields High. Where are we at with the warrior monks in the island of Malta? I know you're busy with the move to the new Diggs, but I'm hooked.

I need more content. Great show shields hid Paul in Wisconsin. Paul Malta is next, and Malta, as you know, is one of my all time favorite battles. So I will absolutely get it done. I cannot tell you when, though. I have to get a draft of my socialism book done with Stansbury first, with Stansbury Research, and then we can start doing some curated We're not curated. What's the word specialty? We call it specialty podcasts. So I'm working

on it. Let's us see here we have hold on Steve hey Buck Greetings from the Live, free or Die state of New Hampshire. I'm a longtime Real News OSS

Team Buck member. Just had a thought that maybe for any of those multi hour town hall propaganda platforms, maybe you should look for Team Buck volunteers to head into the breach and report on the highlights of let's say our one or hour two, etc. Because no one should have to be subjected to that kind of abuse of thought and sensibility for longer than an hour than have them report on the highlights. M That's an interesting idea.

A couple of Netflix Amazon Prime series Thoughts Longmire, a modern day sheriff Indian reservation drama, and a Canadian series called nineteen two which is a cop drama, and of course Shields Way High. Um, producer, producer, John what is what is your Netflix show of choice these days? We haven't asked you that in a while. UM. I like Stranger Things, and believe it or not, I like Glow. Isn't that about the Lady Wrestlers? Yeah? Hey, nothing, you know,

you don't need to, but that's it. I don't really watch too much Netflix. However, I do watch Hulu and you have a show called Future Man, which is not for the kids, but it's a sci fi it's kind of funny. So uh it's from Seth Rogan m so you can imagine the kind of humor that's in there. Ah, I got you, all right, I'm gonna to check that one out. But Glow huh. Lady Wrestlers, Oh, some people like wrestling with ladies. So it sounds like this is

a thing that people might want to check out on Netflix. A. We have more coming in the box. We got a lot in the box here today. Let's see here Rocky Buck. I'm excited for the new show format. Will you be live at any time? Will you take calls? You're the best shields high Rocky. We got to figure that out. We are going to be in the digital era, so there'll be ways I think that we could set it up.

But the most likely thing that I think will end up happening is we may establish a couple of times during the week when we either go live to take calls, or when we will just specifically be taking calls live and then air it maybe the next day or something. We're going to figure it out. Basically, Producer Mark is going to tell me what's possible and and then we'll go from there. You know. Yeah, once I figure out

what's possible, I'll let you know exactly. Yeah. He's he's the one, you know, I come, I have all these dreams, you know, all these and he's the one who's like, you actually need electricity to do that, you know something, you need to have things in place, so we all you know, it's all right. Sometimes he crushes my hopes and dreams, but it's important because otherwise I would think that I could take calls and I couldn't and that's

no fun for anyone that's not working. When people start diling like mad, they think they can get through and they can't, that's no good. Nobody likes that. Andrew Shield's high dog, dawg. What do you think about cryptocurrency? I believe the third largest crypto is being set up as the new world currency. What do you think? You know, Andrew? Cryptocurrency. It's almost like talking about religion or the meaning of life.

You know, people have such divergent theories about it. I have heard very very intelligent people go from cryptocurrency is going to change global economics forever, and the blockchain technology will have enormous impact and influence on our lives. We can just begin to fathom right now. And I know people who are like, we already use digital currency. It's called every credit card and banking transaction you do. This

is all essentially a scam. And blockchain technology is interesting, but it's not going to be as world changing as other people say it is. And most crypto currencies, I I've heard from pretty much everybody who follows this stuff that most cryptocurrencies will be worth nothing. Think of it the way that you think of Google or search engines. A lot of people could set up search engines. There were a bunch of them. Ever, it was like, uh, ask Jeeves dog piled, you were dog piles. That still

a thing. That was a I don't know. It was too young for me. Yeah yeah, we didn't. Producer Mark, we'd even know old. Both of you guys. I never know if you're older or younger than me. We went over this. I'm much younger than you, I know, but it makes me sad to have to know that, you know, because now I feel old. I mean, I can say that I'm forty five cranky like a forty five, I'm

pretty cranky. Producer John, he's more. He's my contemporary. So no, I'm older than you, Buck, Yeah no, but we're close. So you know, we gotta keep these young whipper snappers over here. Like Producer Mark in line, he gets all he gets all uppity. Um he whoa Chris, Oh nope, that's a that's a that's a company email. I gotta get better at this. That's better. Really, Like everybody, make

sure you change your passwords once a year, Scott. Thank goodness, Buck Sexton has an email address I've tried to figure out for over a year how to send anything to roll call. You guys should all send stots, many of you who are original Squad no stots. She's she's been one of one of our og oss and she would occasionally a poke and prod about this via Twitter, just

say hey, where's that email address? And I kept feeling increasingly guilty for not falling through on the promise, so I task producer Mark with it, and he actually got it done. But Scott writes, I could not find anything on the Facebook page and never heard any directions on the show. Welcome to nineteen ninety four, and take the time to watch a number of the nineteen sixties Twilight Zone episodes. They are very powerful, powerful dramas in black

and white. Shields high Scott, all right, cool, all right, will check it out. Tom. I heard you mentioned the movie Doctor's Strange Glove a few months back. I assume you were talking about Stanley Kubrick's classic doctor Doctor Strange Love. Yes, you're not the first one to point this out to me. Doctor Doctor Strange Glove is a very different place. That's a that's downtown. I'm talking about that on the radio. But let's say you gotta sounds like Time Square in

the seventies. It's yeah, you gotta pay extra for doctor Strange Glove, but doctor Strange love is uh, yeah, that's a thing anyway, Tom writes, I listened almost every day on the way home from work, and the question always crosses my mind. Were you named for George C. Scott's amazing Buck Turginson? Can you shed any light here? Thanks for the email address. I refuse to use Facebook shield side. Well, Tom,

you're not the only one. A lot of people have said I assumed I thought all of you were on Facebook. Turns out that there are a lot of you who don't want to use Facebook, So there is that um and I would just say, where was I on this? Oh? Where does my name come from? My middle name is Buckman, which is where buck comes from. And that is a family name. I believe it's from my mother's maternal grandmother.

Her maiden name was Buckman. If I'm gonna get that one wrong, Mom, I'm sorry, you'll tell me later after the show. But I think that's right. So it's a family name, and I believe it's German for Buchman, which is a librarian or perhaps an erudite fellow who just likes books. We have more roll call in a second. Stay right there, seeing Buck, it's time for a roll call. All right, we're continuing here with our Friday roll call to close it out for the weekend. Remember Facebook dot

com slash buck Sexton is in effect. Also Buck, I'm sorry, Team buck At. iHeartMedia, Team Bucket, iHeartMedia dot com. That is how you send us all of the things you need to tell us for the show. And there you go, TJ Right, Happy Friday, Bucks. I'm a little over halfway through Victor Davis Hanson's The Case for Trump. It's very good book. It got me thinking a bit. Here's an idea or scenario, some of which has come true, while the rest of it is perhaps wishful thinking. That came

to mind. The election of Trump brought a more simple realism to conservatism that not so intellectuals could understand and believe in, while at the same time making the show, making the left show it's true self because of the dislike for his brashness. All right, I think we'll be looking at a momentum shift in this country the likes of which we've never seen. Will be able to truly harness the truth about conserve ratism that he's made oh so clear, and really do some intellectual damage to the

Democratic Party without the Trump's stigma in our way. All right, TJ, thank you. I had to cut that short because that was very long, but I appreciate you sending us in Gary rides. Where can you be heard? I'm in Montana. Well, Gary, we're on a one hundred and sixty stations. I don't really know. I don't know where we are heard on Montana, but I could tell you. You You could always download the show and you can hear it same day any time

you want, or listen to it whenever you want. And you can do that on iTunes or on the iHeartRadio apps. Type in Buck Sexton. It'll all pop up for you there, and starting soon you can watch a video stream of the show that will be on Pluto, the Pluto TV app, and we will be channel two forty eight I believe channel two forty eight on Pluto. If you haven't seen the app, it's pretty cool because it it's like free. It looks like free TV. I mean it is free TV.

No no subscription by the way, you just download. It's all totally free. So just check it out. Make the magic happen. Elton. We got a lot of first timers writing in because they don't like to use the Facebook. Enjoy your show. Keep up the great job with all the live media. Count on your insight and information to keep my mental compass oriented. Listen to your show at eight pm each weeknight in Birmingham, Alabama's WARC using my I heart radio app Well. Thank you, Elton, big shout

out to WARC Birmingham. I gotta get down to here. Birmingham is actually a really nice town. Never been either, you guys ever been to Birmingham? I have not. No, I gotta check it out. A lot a lot of places I gotta see. Uh Gile Rides Buckman, thanks for letting us old fogies get back in touch with you Facebook and Rod and Hell for all I care. Try to drag your tail of the Pacific Northwest so all

the local team members can show our support. Avoord avoid Seattle and Portland, though the anti idiots have ruined both places. I'm not sure about warm and fuzzy, but you keep me sane around a bunch of Union snowflakes though. Ps I hung a Trump flag out front of the factory after dark. I can't wait to see heads explode tomorrow shields high. Well, Gyle, you you take care of yourself, man. You you make sure you don't get yourself in any trouble. The only other guyle I've ever heard of or no

is is you guys remember a street fighter? Gyle was like for my favorite character and street Fighter. He was the military guy with like the blonde the blonde super swoop. Do you guys remember them a street Fighter? I mean, okay, Producer John does. Producer Mark is like, was that in three D and AI? Because was that the video game? Yeah? Yeah for the old people of course. Yeah, the one that you play at our kids. Yeah, at arcades, which was a thing, by the way, that existed back in

the eighties and in the nineties. I had a birthday party, like my fifth birthday party in the arcade? Okay? Was it? Was? It sort of like going to a museum of natural history and seeing choice for you? Yeah, that's what I thought. See what he's doing, John, Producer Mark is aging us. There's a lot of agism right now on the show. It's all right, though, I'll be right. If a guyle is a cool name. That much is for sure. Maureen, Hey buck, let me be your first email. I've been

waiting forever for a real email address, so yay. I'm a licensed psychotherapist, so I have zero social media involvement, so thank you. This email situation is fantastic. Thank you. I've been following you since the beginning. I think you have a brilliant mind that an insight about the swamp that all people need to hear. You also give voice to what so many of us already feel, and you

have an intelligence that is utterly intoxicating. I get so happy when at six to nine pm here in California, because that's when you're on KiB the Patriot eleven fifty am radio in the Newport Beach Irvine area of Orange County. It's a lonely place for intelligent conservatives being here in California. I love that. But rather sorry, someone young and smart gets what's going on, see through all the lunatic leftist trumped arrangement syndrome absurdity. I love that. I love you

in your show. I don't miss Annie. Thank you so much, much, Maureen, Well, thank you, Maureen. Maureen is like a She's like real Team buck out in California. That's a very nice email, very nice note, Team Bucket. iHeartMedia dot com if you want to send us emails, Facebook dot com. Slash buck Sexton for your thoughts via social media. Talk to you Monday. She'll tie