The Deep State Gets Trumped

great American. Again, the Buck Sexon Show begins. He's a great guy. Now, he was an innocent man. He is a great gentleman. He was targeted by the Obama administration and he was targeted in order to try and take down a president. And what they've done is a disgrace. And I hope a big price is going to be paid. A big price should be paid. And there's never been anything like this in the history of our country. What they did, what the Obama administration did, is unprecedented, has

never happened, never happened. A thing like this has never happened before the history of our country. Welcome to the Buck Saccdent Show. Everyone celebrate a good moment here if you will. After years of being dragged through the mud, bankrupted, ruined, threatening him, threatening his family, the thuggery on display from some of these FBI and DOJ folks was completely jaw dropping. But after years of that, General Flynn is now walking

a freeman. Now, this is something we've been waiting for, and we've talked about this countless times on the show, and it really is the end of at least one chapter here, which is the left's stop at nothing scorched Earth war, using the weaponization of the intelligence community, a completely and disgracefully complicit lib media, and every dirty trick and tool the DNC could either push, pay for or otherwise bring into being. With all of that going on,

they try to take down General Flynn. It looks like they in the end were unsuccessful. Now, I would note it's not really victory, not yet, or it's not really justice. Now. This is a huge step toward justice, but before we could really say that all has been set right in this situation, what we would need to see is a number of FBI former FBI now mostly I think all of them FBI agents and perhaps some DJ folks in handcuffs facing charges of their own. You might say what

charge would they be guilty of? And thought I would just say official misuse of position. It's on the books. There are all kinds of ways that when you work in the federal government, if they want to go after you, if you do something really bad, they can. Now would it stick, would they go to prison? I don't know, but we know what they did was disgusting and Comy and McCabe and Yates and you name it, a whole bunch of them struck in Paige. They should be facing

criminal charges for what they did. And you know, I'm not somebody that's always running around yelling lock her up, lock him up. I'm not. I'm not a person who does that. This actually demands this. This deserves and demands a response in the in the criminal courts. They ruined a person. They used the power that they were entrusted with by the American people to do so. And it was a scheme. It was at a part of it hit. It was done out of a bitterness against Donald Trump

and everybody around him. He wasn't supposed to win that twenty sixteen election, and he did, and they wanted to get even That's what this was. This was their effort to even the score. And with the memos that have come out, we see from the FBI agents involved in this clear entrapment. I mean, this is as as obvious as it could be now. I mean, when you look at the evidence that has come out here, we've had

to embrace really something of a shift. You know, a journal's position on General Flynn's prosecution has long been a test of intelligence and ethics, and countless lips have been failing that for years. But now their position on General Flynn is really a test of sanity, because believing that Flynn's prosecution was legit given facts we now know, is straight up insane, insane in the membrane. This is not

something that anybody could still justify. And as you see the legions of experts and Democrat politicians appearing on MSNBC and CNN crying over the Flynn decision, all the Justice Department has lost its way. Just remember that they were entirely wrong about Russia collusion and the Ukraine phone call impeachment farce. So it's been a tough first Trump term for them. Let's see how they do, God willing during

Trump term two, which we're still hoping will happen. And I've got to say, between the Waco series on Netflix, which I finished last night, and this dismissal by the Department of Justice of the case against former National Security Advisor Trump confidant and associate three star general, former DIA Director General Michael Flynn, Between the WACOST series and the dismissal of Flint case, it's not a good week when it comes to public perception of the trustworthiness and judgment

of federal law enforcement. Not good stuff. But until the FBI conspirators against Flynn are in prison, we have not seen justice here. And that means McCabe and that means Komy. They're very fond of using the tool of investigation as a weapon against people they don't like. Well, that tool can be used and should be used against them. They should be subject to full investigation, and you know what,

they should be held accountable for this. If this was not official misuse of position, I want to know what is. If this is not a form of corruption of office. Think of the charges that these individuals have brought against people in the past. They set someone up to lie. He didn't flynn, He didn't even lie. The FBI was lying about what they were doing there. They completely abused their discretion with the law under the usage of the Logan Act as a pretext for this. I mean, the

whole thing was absolutely absurd. They should not be allowed to get away with it. And this should really frighten people that McCabe was acting FBI director and that Comey was FBI director before him. Remember, Comey's not really a lawman. He's a lawyer. He's a sanctimonious, self righteous lawyer. This is not a guy who was you know, wrestling crack dealers and you know, saving little girls from being kidnapped across state lines and stuff. It's not the FBI g

man that you think of at all. Comy's a lawyer and really a politician, and that he was able to, i know, for multiple administrations of both parties, just keep worming his way up the ranks speaks very poorly to what is rewarded within the federal bureaucracy. But it's not surprising to me at all. People ask me why I left the federal bureaucracy usually tell him how many hours

do you have. How much time do you got. There's a lot of corruption and rot, and there's a disincentive for excellence, for free thinking, for ambition, but ambition within the scope of the mission, not just you know, I'm trying to advance myself up the ranks. I mean holding oneself to a higher standard when it comes to achievement, not when it comes to CYA and kissing up to the right people in positions of authority within the bureaucracy.

That's where COMI really excelled playing the system, and now it's time we hold him accountable. You know Andie McCabe who lied under oath and is not being charged, which I think is a huge mistake from the DJ's perspective.

But here's what you have to remember with that if he was charged, he would be charged in Washington, d C. Do you think you'd be able to find a jury of Andie McCabe's peers at this point in DC, which is ninety seven percent anti Trump, Basically you think you'd find a jury that would send any McCabe to prison for lying. Nope, he's a hero of the resistance. So DJ not pressing charges against him. I think as as much as that is just a gut punch. I can

see that there's some prudence in it. It feels wrong, and I'm not saying it's right, but there may be prudence. Annie McCabe and others. Of course, they're still going to They're still going to be running around spreading their lies and their intellectual filth anything in order to justify the decisions they've already made. Attorney General Barr, who, as you know, I don't know, elevate any members of the administration or politicians into being a hero status or anything. That there'

are all just people. They make mistakes that we always got to remember that. We applaud them for their good actions and we hope for their good care character, but they also they will always disappoint you at some point. That all said, ag Barr has been the single best pick in the cabinet for this administration for the first four years of Trump, in my estimation, the single strongest member of Trump's cabinet, most the most important one, and

I think he has effectively saved the Trump presidency. I really think that that's a fair thing to say, and I know that's a big statement, but I think he saved it because if you would have. I mean, just look at what And he's a nice man, and he is a well intentioned guy, and I know he likes this radio show. But you know, Attorney General Sessions was just not up for the street fight that he was thrown into. He just wasn't up for it, which was

a problem. But here's Attorney General Barr, who is up for it, who knows how this game is played, who understands who the enemy really is. Here's what he says about this decision to drop the charges against General Flynn, which is a huge I mean, high five to all of you listening to this show and all of us who have been pushing publicly or even just among friends for how this was an injustice and Flynn should be pardoned. We were right and the Libs were wrong. Don't forget that.

Don't just pass beyond this moment without taking stock of it. And here's the Attorney General saying, oh, yeah, we need to have one standard of justice place six A crime cannot be established here. They did not have a basis for a counterintelligence investigation against Flynn at that stage. Does the fact remain that he lied? Well, you know, people sometimes plead to things that turn out not to be crimes. What should Americans take away from your actions in the

Flynn case today? I want to make sure that we restore confidence in the system. There's only one standard of justice. You really know a lot about a person at this stage, if they've been following this issue and if they're a public voice on it. If they double down now and say, oh, it's the corrupt Justice Department. I mean people who are truly just morons. And there's a lot of them out there.

Was at the Law the law Fair Blog or one of those sites, one of these ridiculous, these ridiculous websites that has legal experts. They're all, Oh, this is a terrible day for the Justice Department. What are they now saying that we should have the FBI go after people for violations of a Logan Act? The Logan Act is so broad, so vague, and so clearly unconstitutional. It hasn't been used in one hundred and seventy years or so. But we still should Yeah, we still should go with it.

Come on, this is absurd, But they cling to this fiction. They cling to it. Now, before I get into some of their truly pathetic attempts to defend this the meaning to defend the media's position here. I just want to note one of the things I'm most proud of here on the show is that we've for years now, on all these issues of Usha collusion everything else. I've always been open to all the new facts and data that come in, and I have never had to go on air on this show and say, wow, I really missed

that one. Sorry, guys, wrong on this one. Oh they really got him. Never happened. You've been supporting me, You've agreed with me. We have been right on the injustice done to General Flynn for years. I have publicly advocated all the way up the chain as much as I can for a pardon for him. Now it looks like that is no longer necessary, thank Heavens. But it's a tough situation out there in the country, and I know we've been through a lot of gloom and doom. Take

a moment, my friends. Justice it's a wonderful It's a delicious thing when it happens, and we're close to it now with Flynn. We're not quite there yet. But this was a big win and we were on the right side of it, and people that looked down their noses at you. People in the media or maybe even in your day to day life who think you're crazy because you weren't calling a decorating veteran combat hero who wanted to serve his country in the Trump administration like General Flynn,

because you wouldn't call him a traitor. You were simple, You were a rube. You didn't know anything, You didn't know any better. Yeah, you were right. I was right. They were wrong. Who are the rubes? Now, Libs, you're in the freedom hunt. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. It's a pretty dark place on social media. The very first combat after the story broke that I saw on Twitter was Prodin If you're listening, high five year asset. And there are Russian flags and Russian memes popping up.

And now we see Bill Barr really just doing Donald Trump's dirty work. Now he has in his back pocket a little age who saw to it to let Flenn go. It is I think breathtaking dishonesty from the Justice Department. This is the collapse of the Justice Department. Now, Katiel, you caught my breath with the collapse of the Justice Department. This is a case where the fix was in the fix is in not good for the rule of law, it's not good for morale, and it's not a fair outcome.

This is an absolute injustice. Now, don't not worry anyone who cares about the rule of law. Mike Flynn's lawyers have been engaged in a smear campaign. This is a political and incredibly destructive thing to the rule of law. It's all heading towards the president wiping the Muller investigation out of the history books, at least as far as criminal conviction. Oh my, just just bathe in the media lib tears for a moment. Oh, it's destroying the dear Jay.

That's a credit to NewsBusters who pulled together that montage. Is a great montage that they did. NewsBusters says some really good stuff. But I gotta say, I gotta say, what are they even How are they even making this argument? They never should. It's not it's not possible to tell a material lie about a non material investigation because the investigation had no predicate. What do these idiots not understand If someone in the FBI walks up to me and says, hey,

have you ever cheated on your wife? I mean I'm not married, so this would be easy. But but but you know, have you ever seen on your wife? And I said no, and a turn out that's true. The FBI doesn't get to throw me in prison for lying to the FBI. Right if someone's dating an FBI officer, FBI agent rather

CI officer FBI agent. If someone's dating an FBI agent and the FBI agent's like, hey, we're wor you last night and he or she lies, you don't get to throw that person in prison for lying to the FBI. Do the idiot libs not really understand this. That's what the attorney gents are front you. It's not really a crime because there really was no investigation, there was no basis for this. They were and it was clear from the conversation that this was a setup. And that's not justice.

It was pretextual any normal judgement through the side. Let me tell you, I'm a little a little concerned about whether Sullivan will delay this. Judge Sullivan, he's crazy. He sometimes gets it right, but he also talked about treason and charges that Flynn wasn't even facing about a year ago, and so he's had a Judge Emmett Sullivan has had some outbursts in this case where he's just he's out of it, he's nuts, but occasionally he gets stuff right.

He may slow this down a little bit, say, oh, I don't know if this can really Why is the DJ backing office think about and the person who backed off the case or rather made the final determination. They're all saying, Oh, it's a Trump it's a Trump fix. The guys were working at the DJ for ten years. He's a career professional and it was his call and he went to the Attorney General. He said, we we can't continue with this. Who really believes that it would

be just what they want? They want Flynn to get his zero jail time sentence anyway, that's what he was going likely going to get out of this. What do they really think was the victory here? Oh, this was all about creating some basis for the figment of liberals imagination that is Russia collusion and that there was all this, all these Russian machinations behind the scenes. This was a

mass hysteria. Now this is all frightening, folks, because the mass hysteria about Russia collusion was really a warning about Now the mass hysteria about endless lockdown with COVID nineteen that we're seeing, but I'll return to that later. Thanks for listening to The bus Stson Show podcasts. Remember to subscribe on Apple podcasts, the iHeartRadio app, or wherever you

get your podcasts. The President debases himself and reduces himself every day by you know, saying disgusting things about people, and in this case, saying disgusting things about people who dedicated their lives to protecting this country and their fellow citizens. That's all horrendous, and we're unfortunately used to that by now. But I would point out that General Flynn was not targeted.

He was properly investigated in a well predicated case, a case that's been a case whose validity has been proven not just by those of us who are involved, but later by the Muller investigation and after that by the Inspector General's investigation. He was investigated because we had reason to believe he presented a threat to national security. I still think that those things are worthy of investigation. Apparently the President does not. What scum, What a disgusting, slimy

little disgrace this guy. This guy was acting director of the FBI. I mean, he was involved in making decisions about who's who was going to be a target of the of the most powerful federal law enforcement agency in the United States, one that will investigate cases that involve any US persons or interests all over the world. I mean this, This the FBI is a big deal. And the fact that this guy was running it for months and before him, James Comey was running it. They thought

they thought that General Flynn was a threat to national security. No, they manufactured a belief that General Flynn was a threat to national security. And you know, at some point someone should just look this little, sleazy, dishonest scum McCabe in the eyes and say, how blanking dare you? What have you done for this country that General Michael Flynn hasn't done? What do you think you think, because you know, you spent a career, you know, mostly locking up guys for

you know, medicare fraud and running illegal drugs. You know, you think you're a hero, but General Flynn is not. You know, we're all going to give you the benefit of the doubt and oh, you're a great guy, General Flynn. He's oh, oh, because he was willing to work for the Trump administration, which it's just it really is. And I've tried not to go here, folks, And I know this is a little bit of a digression, but there's a part of me that just can't get over how

it is. And I know this COVID thing is horrible. It's all just also so from a historical sense though, so unfair that the Trump administration was just crushing it and the Libs were in a panic because things were so good and we've basically now got a real election that's going to happen where it's going to be tight, it's going to be close because of the equivalent of you know, an asteroid hitting the planet. Really, I mean, you know, what are you going to do? What are

you gonna do? But the first three years of Trump were three of the Look, there were three of the best years of my life. We weren't we weren't all worried about terrorist attacks all all the time. We weren't all wondering if you know, the future was going to be brighter economically and if people could get jobs, and we weren't starting wars we didn't need to. And you know, but now the Libs get lucky, They get lucky with the devastation and catastrophe that has hit the entire world.

But now now they can put forward, you know, Biden, the El SID candidate. Just just put him on that horse and send him off into battle, you know, prop the body up and just send El Sid out there and they'll run away. And great movie, by the way, worth watching if you've never seen it. Real masterpiece for what it is. But I go back here to McCabe. I don't understand how anyone can take this guy even

a little bit seriously. I mean, Comey went to Twitter that this was a dark day for the Department of Justice. It's I think it's lost its way as what he said about it. That was the quote on Twitter, James Coomy, who remember these people that are that are still treated as having all this credibility, credibility in the media. Their own institution has found them to be dishonest, to have broken rules, to have to have said a horrible example for the rank and file of the FBI. And they

they're not. They're not apologetic at all, not a little bit. McCabe, the same guy, the same smarmy little jerk. That's all. This was a legitimate investigation and these people were they were locking people up for years and years and years. Do you think Comey and McCabe have good judgment about who should go to prison? Now you would say, buck,

they're the prosecutors. Yeah, But the FBI is working hand in glove with the prosecutors, and the FBI decides what you know, you know, the most momentous decision is and the whole apparatus of federal law enforcement who to investigate and who not to That's the first step. And to investigate is often to destroy, right if they want to go after you, just the investigative process. Ask anybody who you know works at a financial firm or works at

a big company. All it takes is those dudes and dudets in windbreakers that say FBI to come into your office. Doesn't matter if if you two weeks later was whoop, see we made a mistake. All it takes is FBI to come in your office, photos on TV and in the newspaper, and your company may be done and your reputation may never recover. So the decision to investigate is the first real assault. And then the decision to prosecute is the decision to destroys. I've told you, Once you're

prosecuted as they've done to Flynn. You're bankrupted, You're ruined. Where does Flynn go to get his reputation back? I really mean this too, General Flynn deserves to be back in the Trump administration. This is not a joke. This is not a troll. They robbed him of this, and they they will say, oh, but you know he lied to Mike Pence. No, now we find out he really the FBI did. Didn't think he lied. He really just

didn't even remember. Because this was such an insignificant conversation with Kizoyak, among all the different things that are going on for an incoming national security advisor, He's basically saying, hey, man, just chill, we're coming in. We'll handle things a little bit differently. Over the course of a conversation. That's it. Nothing illegal about that. It was the right thing to

tell him. What was wrong was Obama being mister tough guy as he's leaving office, not going to be in power anymore, and just kicking sand in the eyes of the Russians. Why not because he cares about Russia, as you remember, you know, I will thrown smooth, This will Vladimia right. All of more or or more space toiment over after the next election, after all, the people can't actually judge me or further stuff I do. And then Obama gets all tough when he's not going to be

president anymore, makes life harder for the incoming administration. And we know that he got all fired up about Russia because Hilary lost because of Russia interference. Hillary lost because she's horrible. All right, we all know it. Oh but no, McCabe still still sticks to the script here, still saying the usual bull crap man, you know, team, Should I do a version? Should I do a podcast where I can actually use salty language. I've really been thinking about this.

Not for the kids, all right, we'd have an eighteen plus warning on. I feel like it'd be fun to do a like a you know, a Scotch and beer version I can drink beer, but a Scotch and beer version of this podcast for just the adults, where I could just do the you know, we'd bring producer market too. You want to hear salty language. The man is not shy.

But anyway, this McCabe then, I mean this just really, this whole thing rubs me the wrong way, you know, because I Also remember I had a few run ins in mind day, relatively minor ones, but I had a few run ins with the with the internal security apparatus of the CIA, and they were they were Andy McCabe's, and they were Jim Comey's, except much lower level. But they were bad people. There were bad people who were

bitter and weren't really contributing to the mission. And all they do is harass people and just you know, rifle through your finances and sift through your underwear drawer and see what they find. They're gross, not all of them, pretty much all of them, but most of them. So I understand this mentality, Oh, I'm just doing my job. Really, you pick when to do your job and when not to. So I don't ever say you're not just doing your job or you're just doing your job. But here's a

cabe for you. Still still sticking with it. Play clip ten. Conservative media has been obsessed with finding some indication of a setup since this all started, you know, several years ago. The simple fact is it absolutely did not happen. And I think that those notes, if in fact they are Bill presteps are, are indicative of that a team got together and discussed the strategy, how do we approach this interview?

What sorts of things should we be thinking about. I think those notes reflect one person's internal deliberations across the range of options that might that might take place. We strategize about interviews every day. When we sit down with a terrorist, we think about will they admit to the crimes that we think they have committed, or will they lie about their known associations. If they lie, will that give us something else, additional leverage that we can apply

in our investigation. That's exactly what happened with General. What were they investigating? I mean, that's a real journalist and pushed that, I'm sorry, what were you investigating? The Logan Act? You really think that that's okay? I mean that's where you have to drill in and look this bed eyed little scum McCabe right in the face and say, I'm sorry, what do you think you're doing? Tough guy, You're going after a decorated veteran who's the incoming National security advisor

with the Logan Act. They had already been told they were going to close the counterintelligence investigation on him. They knew there was nothing And people bring up the thorough registration. I mean, my friends, if you know enough about federal law, there are there's a whole book written by Harvey A. Silver Gate and it's called like two Felonies a Day or five felonies a day, or whatever it is, and it's just about all the laws you're breaking all the

time without even realizing it. But we assume, and we shouldn't have to, but we assume that law enforcement's going to prioritize and that you know, you have to actually do something bad that hurts someone or something for there to be consequences against You. Can't just be like, yeah, there's this obscure law that no one's ever really heard of and knows about, and you couldn't even define what it is. But we're gonna get you with that one.

That's how McKay plays the game, straight out of Lavrenti Barria of the Soviet Union would be very proud of the mentality that Comy and McCabe have. These people are disgusting. I would not shake James Comy's hand. I would not show James Comy respect in person. I do not think he is deserving of it. I think he's a bad human being who needs to do a lot of penance. Same thing with McCabe. This isn't just some partisan spat. These are people who are undermining the very foundation of

our country's judicial system, of our law enforcement system. They are breaking faith with the American people with institutions that can do any of us real harm. The greatest threat to tyranny that we face is from our own institutions turning against us and abandoning the constitution for partisan reasons, thinking that they're making the country a better place in the process. You know, everyone always thinks there's a good reason for whatever they're doing. Doesn't make doesn't mean that

they're right. As we know, every evildoer will have some explanation for why they're doing what they do. The fact that Komian McCabe are likely to escape prison just goes to show you that we still don't have any real accountability in our system. But thank heavens, General Flynn is not going to be and not going to have this on his record. And if they're I've never seen before what happens at this point because he hasn't been sentenced,

so I'm assuming that they'll they'll wipe this away. They're dropping the case against him, but Trump should maybe if Trump should just write a pardon for him anyway, just to be just to be on the safe side, and he should bring him back into the administration. He should make him a senior advisor, senior advisor for intelligence coordination with law enforcement. How about that. That'd be a great idea.

And have some of these deep state morons who thought they knew better than the American people and wanted to play games, they'd have to go in and brief Flynn when he wants a briefing, answer his questions, write some memos for him, Go get him some coffee. You're in the freedom Hunt. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast that iconic music screams summer and we all scream for ice scream. But during a pandemic, social distanced the rule getting close to the ice cream man could mean getting

something else. Fact of life. Yet here's mister Freese, not his name, in his truck of treats, unmasked. Ungloved taking cash for cones in the Northwest Bergs. That's when CBS two Assignment editor Greg Kelly, father of two, dad on a bike, said, wait a minute, he did. It's a good idea to be doing this with the stay at home owner the COVID nineteen. Eventually, our Greg got a bit closer, tried to get an answer from mister Free again not his name. Why are you trying to take children?

Do not worry a mask? Why are you trying? Are you sick? Am? I sick? No? And I want to say that not ship either. Why are they quarantining healthy people? Wall? I hate this, I really do. I mean this CBS to affiliate whatever. First of all, you know you're harassing a small businessman here. The guy's trying to sell ice cream, he's trying to make some money, trying to make a living, and he's not wearing a mask. The chance of him let's just understand this. It is overwhelmingly likely that he

does not in fact have COVID nineteen. I know we can't say he definitely doesn't, but it is very likely that he does not in fact have COVID nineteen. Okay, so that means that he is at zero risk of doing anything to anybody else. Even if in fact he has COVID nineteen and he has a brief interaction with somebody, you would think the chances of them getting COVID nineteen, especially if it's children, which is what the whole thing is. Oh,

he might be infecting children. Children. It's difficult for them to get this, and if they get it, it is effectively changes nothing about their have no symptoms, their health is not negatively impacted. But you know, instead of going up to the gun and say, hey, man, could you wear some gloves? There's a mask, you know that that's the responsible way to do this. If you if you want to make a thing of it to shame him, yes,

let's go out there. Let's be the smug journal morons and go ahead and shame the business owner and put him on TV. And you know, how dare he try to feed his family, feed himself, put food on the table, pay his rent. Awful? What a terrible man? Are we really? How long do these morons think we're gonna have to do We're gonna wear masklin gloves forever? Is that their plan? Or until the panic the panic legions decide that it's okay for us to start living our lives again. You know,

I'm sorry, but other people's unbelievable fear. I mean, we've seen this with climate change too. You know, all the world's gonna end. So do everything I say about everything, You better recycle. You know, it was interesting here and this is a small thing, but here in New York, we had the plastic bag band going to effect in New York State, in New York City right before this, a few weeks before the pandemic really broke out. And you know what's happened. Now, I'm getting plastic bags all

the time. Do you know why? Because when there's real problems, people realize that's moronic. It's just annoying, stupid harassment. But the baby seals and the plastic bags, and you know what, are we gonna do it? No? It was dumb. It

was a dumb rule. It's not even better for the environment when you look at the impact on trees and the fuel ratio for taking the heavier paper bags, and also the disease risk of you know, people not being able to people bringing rather these reusable bags which are much more likely to have a whole bunch of yeah that's right, bacteria, viruses and disease on them. But it was stupid, and I told you it was stupid. And when this stuff hit the fan, guess what everybody else realized?

It was in fact, dumb, it was not something we should have been doing. Og Now we all figure it out. There's a need to wear some protection in some places at some times. We all understand that. And if you really don't want the ice cream the ice cream man and you say that, I mean, I will say this, should he probably be wearing gloves irrespective of COVID nineteen.

I think the answer is yes. I think food service handling, so so that I'm a little more like, you know, okay, but you know, to say all you have to be wearing a mask, we're gonna wear Are we really setting up society to wear masks until there's a vaccine? Anytime you go outside when outdoor transmission or a brief, brief moment in contact with somebody unless they're breathing right on your face, is very unlikely to spread this virus. Is that what we're really accepting now? I've got to tell you,

I really the virtue signaling from people on this. Look, it's a complicated, difficult thing, and we're losing We're still losing a lot of really losing a lot of seniors. That's who we're losing as a result of this, which is tragic and This is a tough time for the country, but this has now become so thoroughly politicized, and it's it's just wrong on every level. This is not about left and right. It shouldn't be about pro Trump anti Trump,

but that's what the leftist turned it into. You know, if you disagree with wearing a mask forever, you're probably one of those gun total Second Amendment liking Constitution reading folks. Well, at least they released Shelley Luther in Texas. That was a victory for sanity, but there's still a lot of crazy people out there and shaming small business owners for trying to open. It's not cool. Thanks for listening to The Bus Sesson Show podcasts. Remember to subscribe on Apple podcasts,

the iHeartRadio app, or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, everybody to give us a little additional freedom perspective, a focus on liberty at a time when the country's liberty seems to be in tremendous peril. We are joined by Glenn Jacobs. He is the mayor of Knox County, Tennessee. Also familiar to many of you, I'm sure, as the WWE wrestler formerly known as Kane he joins us. Now, Glenn, great to have you on, sir, Thanks Puck, I appreciate it. So,

my friend, what is good? First let's start with Tennessee and then we'll take this nationwide. We're in the midst of this lockdown. Still, some states are reopening a little bit. I've read a little that Nashville has had some cases and there's been you know, there's been a bit of a scare there. But how are you guys doing statewide? How has your governor been in this process? Telling me, let's talk about how Tennessee's handling COVID, then we'll talk

about the national response. Sure, Tennessee did not go nearly as far as many other states did with executive orders. There was a safer at home ordered issued obey. It wasn't like California and some other places where we see really draconian enforcement. You know, some restaurants and bars were closed and now they're back to living in capacity, and some other businesses were closed. But overall, we didn't go

nearly as far as other states. We're starting to move in the other direction now, we're starting to open things back up, and we probably don't get as much press as Saint Georgia did when when they did it, But we're still that we're right there with them as far as what we're doing, and compared to every pels, I guess that's some pretty aggressive opening businesses up, and I mean just allowing people to get back out. We're speaking

to Glenn Jacobs, he's the mayor of Knox County. Mayor Jacobs. Well, the country, it seems to me, had this panic reaction and it was based in and Look, there were a couple of weeks there where I was like, well, I guess, I mean, if we're really facing what they're saying, we're facing in the way that they're telling us it's going to happen. We don't seem to have a lot of choice.

But we've gone from fifteen days to stop the spread to now fifty some odd days to stop the spread, although there is some, as you said, some reopening in some places. Have you been surprised by the speed and the ease with which so many people seem to have relieve or allowed the state to relieve them of their

liberties in this situation. I really have, And it's really it's disturbing because, as you said, it went from an idea of flattening the curse of the healthcare system wouldn't be overloaded, which is something I think that we can all look at and say, Okay, that's reasonable, although again I'm yeah, you know, I don't think that the government should be mandating the people stay inside or mandating a lot of things that went on. But you can understand for a short period of time, as we said in

fifteen days, to flatten the curve. Okay, Well then it went to well actually now we can't. We can't go back out, and we can't open businesses until there's a vaccine.

It's like, well, wait a second. You guys said one thing, now you're saying something else, and you've gone you know, if you actually read what like Neil Ferguson from the Imperial College of London said with their report, which was the one that caused everyone to completely freak out, which was two point two million deaths in America, they said that if you're going to do lockdown route that that can be up to eighteen months. And I was going on a any second, we there, we'll leave you in

a stone age. If we go on an eighteen month lockdown. This is not possible, and even Fergus in his report acknowledge that. And the thing is, too we have these models, and the models keep on changing, and of course the models are only as good as the data, and they don't predict the future. I don't think that they ever

really should have been used for public policy purposes. They should have been used for epidemiological purposes, and look at the spread, and certainly policymakers maybe should have taken them into account. But that became the driving force behind all

these policy decisions. And then the problem with that buck is as a as an elected official, I have to look at this big picture, you know, this big puzzle of the community's overall well being in health, and certainly displays into that you also have to think about the economic health with the community. And you know, for the folks out there that think, well, you're putting profits of people, know, if you don't have a healthy economy, you're not going

to have healthy people. And what we've done now is we've concentrated so much on the public health aspect that we've forgotten about everything else. And then we don't even know if if this lockdown strategy is going to work. When you look at these statistics from various countries and compare those that we don't know that it actually works. And then we don't know what the arc of the

disease looks like because there's things like her immunity. And if you have a lockdown and people go back out, well they are you going to have a second way? There's a lot of an answer questions and we've just said okay, and it's fine, this government do whatever you need to do protect us, and we will trust you. And that's a very dangerous throat to beyond in history show since that we're speaking Glenn Jacobs, he's the mayor

of Knox County, Tennessee. Mayor Jacobs. The debt is also something that I mean, at least when I came into conservative media about a decade a decade ago, there was a lot of concern about the debt. Well, it's gotten a lot worse since and what we see going on now is truly unprecedented. You're going to end up with, I mean, no one really knows right now, but trillions

of dollars of additional spending. And also, I think, and this is the part of this that people haven't factored in trillions of dollars less in tax receipts and revenue across the board too, right, So we're going to be spending a whole lot more money as a government, and the government at the end of the year is going to be taking in a whole lot less money. So it's going to be a gulf that's wider than people

even recognize. How do you see that pressure playing out in the economy And how worried are you about the prospect of just the United States being at in the neighborhood of thirty trillion dollars in debt by the end of this year, which some are saying is possible. I'm very worried about that. In fact, I'm much more worried about that than I am. The direct impact of COVID nineteen. COVID nineteen is a serious of public health fish and

it's something certainly that needed to be addressed. But what's happened now with the way that we react did is we've caused an economic collapse that's gonna end up bringing in a monetary and physical crisis which is going to cause political upheap. It at some point, as you said, we're going to come out of this for thirty trillion dollars from debt. In two thousand and eight when we had the Great Recession, country had about ten trillion dollars from debt. And you look at what was done then,

and this was a huge event. It pales in comparison to what's going on right now as far as the amount of money of the thorough government spending. We should all keep in mind the federal government doesn't happen money. The Federal Reserve can print money, and that's what's happening right now, and that's going to have the dilitaries effect on the dollar purchasing power dollar and the strength of the dollar. Currently we're in Bretton Woods two is the

world monetary system. I think we can all assume at this point in Bretton Wood too is debt and something else is going to replace that. None of us knows what that is, but that's what I see, is I see in the end the the monetary situation, the fiscal situation. Currently, the federal government pays about four hundred billion dollars a year in debt service on twenty three, twenty four twenty dollars in debt. That's going to grow up even higher.

They're trying to offset a deflationary spiral by throwing all this money into the economy. That's going to take a lot for that to happen because people just starting to spend money that the money circulation and velocity of money is very low, so inflation is going to be very low, and economists and the Fed, they're just going to keep on saying, throw more money, throw more money, throw more money. So you actually have an inflationary bomb in the economy.

And when things start picking back up, and that inflation starts picking back up because of the huge amount of debt service that the federal government has to pay, they're not going to be older raisins strates like they have in the past. So a long term, over the next I don't know how many years, however long it takes, the US, unfortunately, is going to be in a very precarious situation. Speaking in Glenn Jacobs, mayor of Knox County towny See and may or to that end, I want

to know what the picture is for small businesses. I mean, your county has hundreds of thousands of residents, so obviously a lot of businesses that are shut down right now must be struggling mightily. I know the Paycheck Protection Program. We had Monica Crowley from Treasury on my show earlier in the week on one of my shows earlier in the week talking about what PPP has done, but even she admitted, look, it's the government program. It's not perfect,

but it's helping. But what are you hearing from small business owners and what are your concerns about the ability of both businesses currently shutter to reopen and people who have lost as we know what twenty some odd million now have officially lost jobs, probably more like thirty million overall. But of the people who have lost jobs in your state, that they'll be able to get those jobs back, that's a huge issue. Small businesses could be the ones most

by this. The large businesses, the national chains, they have the revenue of the capital to survive something like this. Small businesses don't. And even now, what we're doing in Knos County, in the state of Tennessee, we have a gradual RePhase I'm sorry, gradual phased opening plan, which is of course better than nothing, but still now businesses have had in some cases no revenue for a month or six weeks, and now they're going to get like maybe half,

maybe twenty five percent of their normal revenue. Businesses can't survive like that. And again, especially especially the small businesses, which are going to be hard the worst, and those are the backbone of our economy. They're the backbone of our local economy, they're the backbone of the national economy.

And then if you think about people coming back to work, an issue with now the federal government trying to help people is the fact that in some cases they're making more money on unemployment than an employer can afford to pay them. So they're going to want to stay on that and rightfully so I don't blame them for as long as they can, which is going to cause another

impact in the labor markets. So as you point out, it's the big guys for the most part, I'm not going to say to be okay, we've seen some bankruptcies and big companies, but they're much more prepared and much more equipped to whether this than the small businesses. And of course the small businesses that that's our neighbors. It's the mom and pop shops that many to go to and support and the people that are involved in our community,

and it's it's really a travesty. One of my messages is always, to the extent that you can, and to the extent that you're comfortable. Please support your local small business if you want, if you want to see them. After all this is over and there's own business. It's up to us right now to do the most that we can to help support them. Mayor Glenn Jacobs, thanks so much, sir. I'll be out in Tennessee soon. Hopefully

you guys will all be open. We can get a beer a little bit up please, Buck, thank you, you take care. You're in the Freedom Hunt. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. Pandemics have been in the world before, and people survived them. We of course, could have survived this much better if idiot had done the right thing and listened and heated all the warnings. There were many, many warnings and we are all paying for it now. It would have been bad, maybe in some ways, but

never like this. Hey, Robert de Niro thinks that it would have been bad, but it wouldn't have been that bad. But you know the idiot who doesn't like and you know, hey, it's he doesn't like Trump. Why do we have to hear from Robert DeNiro about pandemic response. I mean early, I'm just wondering, does he know anything other than how to play basically the same character in a bunch of granted, some very watchable movies. You know, we give credit words

due here. Casino actually a producer. Mark, Is Casino a better movie or good Fellows a better movie? No, that's that's a good Fellows. Yeah, I think I think good Fellows is the right choice there. Casino is a little bit soul crushing, you know, it's I mean not that there's not some of that and good Fellows too, but Casino is, like it gets kind of just too depressing toward the end. I found, you know, it's really you kind of you end up watching the movie. You're just like, oh,

humanity is doomed. This is bad. But there's some very very watchable movies, very good things. I actually think that Meet the Parents is one of his better movies. You know, Little Jigsy, Little Jigsy, little little milking the cat Jigsy. Yeah, I love those movies. That's a crazy really that's a

great movie to me. The funniest parts of Meet the Parents were the Jigsy the cat thing, and then also because I feel like we've all been there before, where we're forced to be in some kind of a competitive environment where you don't really want to compete, but like now you're now people are like, well, why aren't you better at this? And then you kind of turn it up a little bit and now you're the guy who's trying.

You know, it's like you're playing flag football with someone else's family and you're getting and thrown in the bushes, and then all of a sudden, you try kind of hard, and you know, somebody gets a bloody nose from your elbow and the lover look's wrong with you. We've all been there before. I think that it's if you it's co ed sports too. If you're ever in a co ed sports environment wherevere's kind of like drinking beer and having fun and playing volleyball and then you like start

missing anyway, that's what happens. To meet the parent the volleyball seat in the pool is amazing. I mean, that's that's one for the ages. I thought, what's your favorite scene, producer, Mark oh Man, that's hard. I mean, I think I'm gonna say from Meet the Fockers, when Jinxi ends up in the toilet in the RV because the dog shoved him in the toilet. I haven't even seen Meet the Fock. Oh those are. It's a great continuation. That's why I say it's the meat Meet the Parents series, because there's

a couple of them. I mean, I will. I think Meet the Parents is the best thing that Ben Stiller ever did, other than There's Something About Mary, which is an amazing movie to go back and watch, just because it's really a time capsule of how much society has changed and what it considers to be acceptable for entertainment purposes. There is so much in There's Something About Mary you would never be able to get away with now. I feel like you can say that about almost every older

television show from like the nineties, early two thousands. Oh, Friends has a lot of Friends, makes a lot of LGBTQ community kind of jokes and fat jokes, And there's a lot of stuff even in Friends, which you think is the most saccharine, corporate friendly, sponsor friendly show imaginable. Oh no, you there's a lot of stuff. There have actually been articles written by people at Vox and other you know, beta mail establishments about how Friends is. You know,

we shouldn't be celebrating it anymore. You know, I was watching Disney with the Snow Princess. We were watching the Aristocrats and as one does. So now you guys all know while I've been in a Disney kick too, it's because Snow Princess and she likes to watch Disney suns. She likes Disney films. So we watched Lion King recently. Lion King's great. Still moves really well too, It's still great, yeah, still grow, it's great. Oh, the old Disney stuff is fantastic.

The newer Disney stuff is not really as good. But you know, we're watching the even the Auristic Cats, and they had I've never seen this warning before. Disney puts up in the you know, like when they tell you that in a movie that there's you know, nuderdy strong language whatever. They had a warning about outdated cultural stereotypes that now you can't have outdated cultural stereotypes in movies or you'll get in trouble. So, for example, the Siamese cats in a Lady in the Tramp they've I think

they cut that out of some versions of it. Now, Um, you can't do that. So I'm just saying you know, they're even Disney, even the old Disney movies you can't get away with. And a lot of the old cartoons. You know, a lot of the old cartoons. I think people would have a problem with now too. But anyway, all right, so let's get back into the mix here on this. I just I think it's funny. They know he is he from Roberts de Needle. What do you

think about the pandemic? Robert? You know, I think if the idiot wasn't running things zoo, you know, that's great, that's really really so very helpful. Oh and they also wanted to hear from from al Gore. The fact that they almost made this guy presid the United States is appalling,

and they really tried. He came very close. Play fourteen and to take your medical advice from a right wing talk show host who brings some questionable medical advice into the Oval office instead of listening to the Centers for Disease Control. And as was said earlier, where is the Centers for Disease Control? They're the ones that shouldn't be having these daily briefings. Where is the FDA? Why? Why

were they bullied into opening the floodgates? And letting all of these crummy tests out there that we now know most of them don't work. This is a disgrace. The entire handling of this matter has been an uttering, complete disgrace. Was a CDC bullied into putting the test? No you more on? The CDC put the tests out because they're an incompetent federal organization that gets billions of dollars, usually to tell people to make sure their kids eat enough vitamins.

The CDC does a lot of worthless stuff. All I do is look do Google search on CDC guidance and things they're doing. Children should get, you know, more more fruits and veggies in their diet every day. I mean, that's what the CDC is often spending its time doing. It certainly not preparing for pandemic disease response. They were caught caught napping and then some on this one. But thanks for hearing from Al Gore. Oh my gosh, Democrats Al Gore, Joe Biden carry people they put forward to

be president. So many of them are just clownish losers. Thanks for listening to the Buss and Show podcasts. Remember to subscribe on Apple podcasts. The iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. Alright, team, I mentioned Operation Gideon, the failed overthrow of Venezuelan dictator Nicholas Maduro at the

top of the show. This is a real thing that happened that people are not paying very much attention to, and involve some former US Special operators, a whole bunch of money, some shady activists, and other folks behind the scenes. What happened here? What went wrong? How could this have been done properly? We've got our friend Jack Carr to

answer all this now. He's a former Navy seal and best selling author of the the latest book in his terminalist series, Savage Son, which Jack I am listening to on audiobook, by the way, true story, very much enjoying it. Although the turncoach CIA analysts. You know, I hope there's some good CI analysts in there too, Like, you know, some of the nerds are nice, say some of the nerds are patriots. Damn it, this is true. This is true. They're they're easy to pick on, kind of like politicians.

And you know people in NOI NOE picks on more than I do. Well, when you know them, then you really know what's going on anyway, congrats on all the success of the book. And I know I saw Chris Pratt himself with the with the shout out for the Amazon series, so the word is out there. Now you're gonna have the Jack car series on Amazon, Savage Son, True Believer, all the Terminal List books. So all right,

fantastic on that. And now let's drill down now that everyone who hasn't already heard knows they need to buy or download your book on audio. Now we can talk about what went down here man in Venezuela. You got some former US Special Operators, guys with real skill sets and real combat experience. They did, what I mean, give

us the overview. Oh my goodness, so diving into this thing, just what a mess from start to finish, and not even start to finish, but before they'll lead up as far as not specific to this operation, but just their their mindset in doing anything, it seems. So you have this guy Jordan Gudreau. I don't know if I'm saying that name correctly, originally from Canada, early served in the US R and B from two thousand and one to twenty six. Team. And when someone gets out with a

couple of years left. It's always a bit of a red flag, so I don't know what's going on there exactly, but at some point I think he went to eighteen Delta training with Army Special Forces, so for those listening, that's a medic training, very well trained guys, and then got out and did some private contracting in Puerto Rico.

After Hurricane Maria, which a lot of people I know did as well, he went down there to help, and then after the Parkland shooting in Florida, wanted to get into school security side of the house and put together our plan to embed special operators in schools around the country.

That didn't really take off, and then he started this thing called Silver Corp, which looks like a want to be blackwater with some pictures on there and some very strange video of him at a Trump rally pretending to be a Secret Service agent if I'm not mistaken, with the earpiece in and had somebody there taking the video that then went up on site. That didn't say he was really protecting Trump, but it certainly gave the impression that he was protecting the president in an official capacity.

And then into February twenty nineteen, he went down to Columbia and worked security at a live aid concert to raise money for the opposition and for the Venezuela opposition the party, and apparently that's where this plan was hatched to put together a band of mercenaries and deserters from the Venezuelan army and do some sort of an invasion of Venezuela and abduct the current president and fly him off. Two parts unknown, which is just you mentioned the live

aid concert. This guy's actually he's doing security now. He was an SF guy, so and as you said, he was a medic. I mean, he had the skill set. So he's not some weekend warrior soldier and a fortune guy who's like been to a you know, a cig training academy thing for two days and now thinks that he understands these things, right. Not that those academies aren't great, they are, but you know what I mean. I mean,

he actually served. He goes to do the security for Richard Branson at a live aid concert and basically he's at this concert and they're talking to people and it's like, let's do our own version of the Bay of Pigs,

except in Venezuela, not Cuba. We're going to do a snatching grab with Nicholas Maduro, who does have a fifteen million dollars US bounty on his head, so this is, I mean, there's real cash here, and also has been oppressing his people, and as we all know, Venezuelas just devolved into anarchy, chaos, starvation, and just a complete mess. But the guy certainly understands security because he understands that his rule is with an iron fist and not with

the consent of the people anymore. So then what happens after so they hatch the plan, then what goes down. So I think there's a few months there, we're not exactly sure what's happening. But by late summer, by August, he's now trying to get some investors. So instead of that fifteen million after the fact from the US government that you may or may not get depending on what happens, he's looking for some upfront money two hundred and thirteen

million dollars from investors in this country. And the craft one of the crafts airs, was not really involved, but at least listened to the pitch, from what my understanding is, and then didn't support it apparently. But this guy, Jordan Gudreau goes ahead and somehow makes his way down to

Columbia and starts working with these deserters. And another fascinating character is a former Venezuelan general who is now in custody in New York awaiting trial or selling service to air missiles for cocaine to some of these deserted groups in Columbia. It's just it's a crazy cast of characters that I'm sure we'll be made into some sort of

a movie at some point. A long time they said that the JW marryout where these guys all met up initially in Bogata, Columbia, was described by the Associated Press as a center of intrigue among Venezuelan exiles. But for this occasion where Goudreau met with these guys, conference rooms will reserved for one participant, described as the Star Wars Summit of Anti Maduro Goofballs. Military deservers include an accused

of drug trafficking, shady financiers, and former Maduro officials seeking redemption. Wow. Oh, it's so great. You almost can't make it up. It's just it's so great. I mean, it didn't end so poorly for everybody. It would almost be comical like Delta for Step movie or something like that, But it did actually remind me of the beginning of an invasion USA for those who saw that in the mid eighties, where they have an invasion of this country by a band

of Chuck Norris destroys the ball. It's great, but that's what I thought of when I saw the video. There's a lot of video out there, you can go online and check it out. But apparently there were two landing sites in Venezuela, one where eight people were killed in the majority of the roam. So this is execution out This is the execution phase of the plan what they

try to do. Sorry, keep going, no, but even before that, we should probably jump back really quick and talk about how there were some weapons and equipment that were intercepted by then the Colombian government at some point, and so Venezuela knew what was going on here. They knew something was in the works, not just something, but they knew that an invasion was evident to overthrow the current president

and they were ready and waiting. So two beach landing sites, one of them where we have eight people killed and the rest of the people are most of them any way, arrested, and then there's another beach landing site where the two Americans it looks like anyway, another beach landing site where daylight a fish, a couple of fishing boats that don't look very seaworthy, and where a lot of the video of our two other army Special Forces guys are arrested

along with some of the other invaders, mercenaries, deserters, or whatever you want to call them. So there's some video out there that's not very flattering, and it also shows tremendous restraint I thought, on the side of the Venezuela and government and police and military forces, because they could have just mowed everybody down like in the Bay of So they didn't. They just killed eight people and are currently searching for I think ninety two others right now.

So Jordan Boudreau is still my understanding, is still out there somewhere, and in the middle of all this, he does a video tweet with a Venezuelan captain from the National Guard talking about what's going on, that they're there. They're almost doing a play by play of what's happening, and they tag President Trump's Twitter account on this. So I mean it's just fascinating. The whole thing is absolutely incredible.

So now I has two of his buddies. SF guys are detained in Venezuela play out, the best place to be detained where we have no official relations right now, there's no embassy there to help work on their release. So we have these two guys that are that are in custody, that are being interrogated of course, and we have the President of Venezuela with their passports, reading it off on the news and being able to re least his people say hey, look we have the United States

of theally involved in trying to invade our country. Um, you know we we prevailed over the innovaders and can rally some some nationalism around him, which probably helps him after what's been going on in his country for the past few were years, with everyone starving, no medical uh supplies, treatment, that sort of thing. So it is just a mess. Yeah, that's probably the best way to describe it. Definitely mess. I mean, this was this was a go ahead, jack ahead.

I was gonna say, Kennedy, President Kennedy. So the Bay Page wasn't really it wasn't a branchild with the Kennedy administration. It was patched by the Eisenhower administration, so Kennedy actually inherited that plan, and what he said in a lead up, although it was too late really to do much about it, was that it seemed too large to be clandestine and

too small to be successful. So that's that's one of the parallels that we could look at when we're looking at this, which may be inspired by something like that, But what you really need in a situation like this is a government approach and an invasion of like an eighteen eighty nine invasion of Panama. Even though we're essentially

going after one person in that, Mamuelinoiega. We brought a hole of government approach, obviously very heavy on the military side of the house, and an invasion rather than some deservers. So so I want to ask I want to ask you about about this part of it because I feel like a lot of the audience will be thinking, Okay, so these guys thought they could pull this off. Some of them did have a real military skill set. A lot of these other guys that seemed like they're just

kind of in the mix for whatever reason. But I want to ask him, just for everybody. We're talking to Jack Carr, author of the Terminal List series. His new book out right now, his Savage Son. I am listening to it. It is excellent and you guys should all download it as well. Chris Pratt will be playing the main character in the Amazon series, which Jack has promised me will be better than the Jack Ryan series, which made the granted handsome and intelligent CIA analyst look good.

But the rest of the series was terrible in the second season. So Jack says this, so I know he doesn't like to say that because he's working with them as now. That's fine, you you can plead the fifth I'm just saying the second season I did not approve.

I'm never going to deal with Amazon anyway. Let me let me ask you about what if you were presented back to this situation in Venezuela, if you were presented with this plan, would you what would have been the initial I look now now we've seen how it went wrong, But what what would have been the flags where you're like, if you guys are going to pull off a coup, you got no chance because of the following Well, there's there's so much to work with there, and I feel

a little bit bad about picking it apart from here from Afar, especially when we have the US former military

guys that are in custody down there. But I mean, just a background of what's going on here by looking at that Silver Corp site and looking at what was to copy and pasted from the Department of Homeland Security site, looking at that in a fake video of this guy pretending to protect Trumpet at a rally, and some of the background there saying that they've advised that there are fifty countries around on the world and have it advised units like Delta Force and the sas like right away,

there's some red flag there. We're learned to looking at a leadership from from the leadership type of perspective, like who's leading this thing? This fly By eventially a fly By Nite Corporation that was was thrown up at hawk it looks like. And then some of those things that those of us who have been in special operations would look at and say, this just doesn't add up here through this thing together, fifty countries around the world is weird.

Video that's out there just doesn't doesn't make sense. So so there's that from from the get go and then you actually look at this thing is hey, look at the history here we have. We have so we can go back to the nineteen fifty three coup in Iran. Okay, we have some lessons learned out of that. We kind of got we wanted for a while out of it, although we're still dealing with the repercussions of that. Today.

We have Bay of Pigs. We can learn a lot from that as well, and we have something like the in then we get more specific to this area the world, and we look at the invasion of Panama in nineteen eighty nine and we see something that worked. The guy that we were after. We have some lessons learned from that as well. And then we look at all that stuff holistically, in plus what we learned INTERAC and Afghanistan, and we look at that and apply it to this situation.

And it looks like none of the lessons from any of these things were applied. If they really wanted to go in there, wanted to overthrow the government, wanted to essentially abduct the president and then take him two parts unknown to maybe collect his fifteen million dollars from the US government, that part's unclear. I mean if you had let me if you had. And this is not just

in the theoretical space, right, so we understand. So you're saying, look, these guys, they didn't think it through, they didn't do they didn't have the lessons learned even from previous incursions into Latin America or other coups involving either US or other international personnel, so that they didn't really do the homework on it. From that respect, you said that you either want to be leading, mean, small and quiet, or you want to just do what you said Panama, like,

we're going all in, We're gonna get one guy. We're going to control the battle space and then get this one guy instead of trying to sneak in the back door he or you know, a snatching grab like that. If you were trying to write for a novel, and you're Jack's a former Navy seal as you all know. But if you were trying to write for a novel here, you know, how would you would it? Would this be a dozen guys, twenty guys if they had the right intel, How could this work out in the real world? You

know what I mean? If you were war gaming it, if you were trying to do a snatching grab, not a hit, right, we don't do that. If you're trying to do a snatch and grab, take this guy back to the US to face justice, how what would that look like? Well, that's I think that the problem is they looked at it through the lens of someone like me who is now writing fiction, instead of the lens of someone who's actually planning these things in real life, either at the CIA or the military or whatever else.

So it looks like someone like me sat down and thought, well, it would be a great way, a great storyline, right, Yeah, was that a great storyline? Yeah, it's it's what it sounds like exactly. So yeah, real life, you either hit them hard full US government approach, You dominate that bat space like you said, grab your guy like we do with Noriega, to take him back for a trial. Okay,

that's one way. The other way to do something like this in real life is through long term covert action penetration programs that your former employers are more familiar with, so you're not putting some guys in ninja suits sneaking through the streets of the capital of a country to go essentially to their White House to snatch the president and then get him to an airfield and fly him off,

and what kind of an aircraft to wear. Like now we have we have some lessons to learn here, and what you would really do is activate those depenetration agents and you would either either it's assassination type thing, or you have people ready to go to step up and to essentially arrest like an actual who and arrest the president or doing things that are illegal and put him in prison and probably try him in that country, or work within the work within the existing battle space in

some capacity, either personnel who understand what's really going on. It seems like that was I mean, it seems like this was in many ways for them an intelligence failure, intelligence victory unfortunately for the Maduro government because they saw it coming a mile away. But knowing stuff an event certainly it certainly helps. But Bett, if you if you're looking for some fodder for a book down the line,

this certainly will provide it. Jack Carr, everybody check out the latest that he's got in the Terminal List series, Savage Son, what you're hearing me talking about on the show, because I am, in fact listening to it and it's great mister Jack car congrats again. I want to sign you know, Jack Carr slash Chris Pratt Savage sunbook. All right, one day, absolutely absolutely done. All right, Matt, thanks so much for joining us. Good to talk to you, dude.

Take care. Thanks for listening to the Bus Sesson Show podcast. Remember to subscribe on Apple Podcast, the iHeartRadio app, or wherever you get your podcasts. It's Friday, so I wanted to give you guys all the great voices, all the great special on air treats I could, And with that in mind, we had to go with all six food ten of him. Jesse Kelly joins us now, the host

of I'm Right with Jesse Kelly on Pluto TVs. The first also the syndicated radio host, mister Jesse Kelly and one day perhaps even who knows President of the United States or something. Jesse Kelly. He's got all. He's got big aspirations for himself. Although today I will tell you he is. He's out there and he is going the full Miami vice right now, because I can see him as we're doing this interview, and he's like Don Johnson in the eighties, except his shirt is not pink, but

He's wearing a T shirt with a blazer. I'm sorry, is it is this like two for one night out in Boca or something? What's going on here with the T shirt and the blazer? Jesse? You know, you know what this is called? Buck? This is called Friday mode. Man, this is called Friday mode. Just laid back and chilling. I mean, look, I'm always the best, but on Friday, I'd like to give people the best version of relaxed Jesse, because I'm here to get you and all your amazing

viewers into the weekend mode. And that's what I'm here for. I just I feel like it also led me astray in the in the early days on Miami Vice, I figured, Wow, you can be a cop and drive around in the equivalent of like a two hundred and fifty thousand dollars ferrari as long as you live on a houseboat and have a pet alligator. There you go. You know what else Miami Vice did, and all Miami TV shows and

movies do this exact same thing. Miami Beach is a beautiful place and it has some of the most beautiful women you've ever seen in your life. So all that's true, but almost every time they show Miami shows, or they show Miami on a show or movies, they always make it look as if it's some tropical paradise, some glistening paradise, when so many parts of Nia of Miami are absolutely run down holes. It has beautiful parts to it. But I have felt more unsafe in Miami than I ever

did in Baghdad. Right, Well, I was gonna say Miami Vice was like a tourism ad for a city that actually in the eight in the eighties, there were broad daylight, full on machine gun shootouts between cartel assassins. It was one of the most violent places in the world for civilian crime stuff. It was out of control. But it was a great show. It's worse. It's worse than that it was a great show. It's worse that people don't realize, like the entire Miami Skyline was built on cocaine money.

Oh yeah, not making that up. That's not just like something that the crazy thing to say. You can watch the documentary Cocaine cowboysmentary called Cocaine Cowboy, Yep, that's right, and they talk about it how all of a sudden there was a bank on every corner because they're all laundering money and virtually everything you see in Miami was built from cocaine. It's just and when you go there

you realize why. So, Jesse, I was gonna ask you about some of the news the day, but I also wanted to get your take on the Waco series, even if you haven't seen it. I just want to get your take on Waco in general. But the Waco series on Netflix is. I finished it last night. It's phenomenal. Taylor Kitch should have gotten some kind of I don't know if you got any awards, but not that I e. One cares about those awards these days. But he gave

a remarkable performances. David Koresh and I was just noting that, you know, it's a tough week for the FBI, given the stuff with Flynn and now also a lot more people have seen this Waco situation. First off, have you seen the show? In second, just in general, even if you haven't seen it, what what should people remember about what happened in Waco, Texas at that standoff with Feds. Well, one, I'm two episodes in, but two I have seen the story.

I obviously know the story very well. I know the Ruby Ridge story too, which obviously they cover in Waco, which is as bad or worse than Waco actually was. I mean, not for total loss of life, but it was really really ugly. And look, all people should take away from it is you can't necessarily trust the criminal

justice system and you can't necessarily trust the government. I'm not saying you need to rebel against it, but there is this way of thinking in America that you have to either you know, respect police, or you have to be this anti cops scumbag. You can actually just be a normal, well reasoned, thinking human being who realizes that cops law enforcement in general, most of them are putting their butts on the line for you every single day, while at the same time they are the enforcement arm

for every bad government policy there is. We see it right now when they're locking up salon owners. It's the history of the world says that cops in the military will be used by an overreaching government to enforce bad policies. And Americans, especially people on the right, when you've heard our people do this book of Oh, the military would never enforce these anti constitutional gun laws. Oh, cops would

never go along with that. I hope you're all paying attention now, you've all seen a two month example of they will go along with anything they're told to do because it's their mortgage on the line, it's their car payment on the line. The government tells them to go arrest some poor stap for paddle boarding in the ocean, it's mobilized. The police votes, Baby, they're going to go put him in. Comes Jesse. Actually, that's that's a perfect transition as well into this story that's now getting a

lot of attention because the President has commented. Actually, a producer, Mark, do you have the Do you have the president's comments on this one? If you do, just play it and I'll tell Jesse when we come back from Yeah, play clip seven. So I saw the tape and it's very, very disturbing. The tape I got to see it. It's

very disturbing. I looked at a picture of that young man who was at a tuxedo and in fact, you put it up and I will say that that looks like a really good young guy, and it looks very it's a very disturbing situation to me, and I just you know, my heart goes out to the parents and the family and the friends, but yet we have to

take it. You know, law enforcement's going to look at it, and they have a good governor in the state, and he's going to very good governor actually, and he's going to be looking added very strongly, and he's going to do what's right. But it's a it's a heartbreaking thing. You know, it's very rough, rough stuff. So Jesse President Trump saying that the video that he's seen of Ahmed Ahmed Arbury is heartbreaking stuff. It looks really bad. You know,

they've got a good governor. Though they're gonna look into this. Law enforcement now has taken action to arresting people. They seem to be a tremendous amount of back and forth on social media. I came a little late to this story. I feel like I've just been looking at it last twenty four hours. But what we had mister Arbury was

jogging two guys who are near their pickup truck. They had shotguns and they tried to get him to stop, and they said, I believe that they were trying to affect the citizens arrest because of burglaries that had happened in the neighborhood. Arbury had some kind of you know, some kind of confrontation with them that these guys forced

and then he got shot and he was killed. Now there's video of it, And first off is the narrative, and I might be a little off as a narrative essentially right on the facts there, And what's your take on what happened here and what doesn't seem like there should be much argument. It looks like these guys killed this guy and they're not cops, and what the heck were they doing? Well, there's not much argument out there. People are acting as if oh, this is a wire

and wire people standing up against this. Virtually every single person is standing against this. It's not much of an argument. This is not one of those cases where you see like five seconds of a police video that looks really bad and everyone jumps to conclusions and then you get the rest of the story and all of a sudden, you look like an idiot. No, we saw the whole thing on video. We have all the background on it. It looks like a former police officer. That's the dad

and his son. The dad apparently had some sort of investigative history with this Ahmud Arbore, so he knew him in some way. But they tried to stop him with weapons when the guy was apparently out jogging. There was not even an accusation that he was doing anything wrong. We even have a nine one one transcript of them calling nine on one of the operators asking why are you calling nine one one, and they essentially say, well, I mean, I don't really know. They don't have an answer. Look,

it looks bad. It is bad. The bad part is this happened in February. Man, we all saw the video yesterday and those guys were just arrested last night after all this social media rage we saw and it shouldn't take that and people were losing faith in law enforcement. So all that's bad, But allow me to also say this one. This is not an opportunity for people like Lebron James to become some civil rights leader, which he badly wants to be talking about how black men are

out there being hunted. We don't know that, we don't know a motivation. We can talk about the fact that an innocent man was apparently gunned down and feel for his family without instantly making everything as if you're Martin Luther King, You're not stop with that. That's one. Two. The people on the right. I see it. This drives me crazy. I've seen it all over the media. Of this there's a modern day lynching. We can't have this lynching of all these people on the right with the

stupid language. People, just because the left has called you racist for the last thirty years doesn't mean you are, and it doesn't mean you have to overcompensate every time a black dude gets killed to try to really prove how not racist you are. I have black friends, I said lynching. Doesn't that make me one of the increp people. You can just judge each case as it is. The dude wasn't a black man. It was a dude who

got murdered. That's really bad. It's bad enough. Feel for his family, cry for justice, which we're apparently going to get in. It's fine, you're not Martin Luther King. You don't have to check out all the wop boxes. Just because the left has been lying about what you believe co sign I mean, I think I think that pretty

much covers it on that case. And it looks like it looks like a you know, then these guys like a charge with manslaughter or murder and unless there's something we don't really know, which doesn't seem like there is. They should spend a whole lot of time in prison. And that's the way it is. You know, I will tell you. I will tell you started interrupt the real quick. I always because I'm so hesitated on these things, because of all the outrage, I'm hesitant to ever or ever

even comment on it. I looked into this quite a bit over the last twenty four hours. It is apparently as bad as it looked initially. It looks pretty open. Well, I just think about it from from the end. You know, you always hear this stuff from from the left wing media of Oh, and even now, I'm like, there's was

there any controversy? I didn't hear any controversy. You're like, no, there's no I mean when I say there's no controversy, there's no two sides that are one side saying yeah, this looks like it's totally I haven't seen anyone say this looks this looks like it was a clean shoot or a legal shoot or a you know, law enforcement uses different terms for its self defense. I haven't seen anybody making that case based on the video. And it reminds me of when that guy that that African American

man was shot running away from the cop. I think it was in South Carolina, and there was all this lib outrage about see conservatives or even defending this. Every single conservative and media I know was like, that was murder. Send that dude who shot him to prison for like there was no there wasn't a back and forth over that, Like people don't actually defend people murdering other people on the right and the left seems to like to pretend

this game that pretend that that's what happens. But I think I think we've pretty much covered where this one is. We're speaking of Jesse Kelly everybody. He is the host of the Jesse Kelly Show on radio, and also I'm right with Jesse Kelly on Pluto TV's the first which is why I can see him, which is why I'm giving a hard time about his Miami Vice outfit today. But I also wanted to transition Jesse, because you're one

of the You're one of the few. I mean, I can kind of count most of the skeptics out there, And when I say skeptics, I just mean people that ask questions, right, people that are saying, hold on a second about this. You've been very vocal about the damage the economy and how the lockdowns were a bad idea. I was even more vocal about it for me initially, and then I was just like, Okay, people are crazy.

I can't even I can't take this. And now I'm like, all right, this has gotten so bad, I'm gonna be vocal about it again. And there are few barrens in I don't know, Matt Walsh is very very much in favor of reopened. I mean, there's like a few dozen of us that I've been yelling about this for a long time online. What's it going to take, man? When?

Because I guess now has it just become so political that it doesn't matter how much suffering there is and how many people are losing their businesses and their life savings in the process. As long as this crush is Trump, it's worth it two people. Is that where we are? To be honest, Buck, It's even worse than that. It's all a game of percentages, man, It's all a game

of percentages. The pull after poll after poller continually shows that sixty seventy percent of the people are okay with us, and the reason for that is Yeah, we've got forty fifty million Americans probably unemployed. That's probably the real number. It's top thirty three million. It's a lot more than that. Everyone knows that, but virtually everyone else is either still getting a paycheck or because of that idiot bill they passed at two three and dollar bill, everyone was cheering.

They're paying people the equivalent of fifty two thousand dollars a year to be unemployed. I personally know business owners more than one who have called their employees because we're opening back up in Texas and said, hey, it's about time to get back to work, and their employees have said, no, I'm making more money now. So not only have we crushed jobs, but we're paying people to stay home. Therefore, most of the public, not all, I'd say thirty percent

of the public, wants to open back up. The rest of the people were either still getting to check or they're making more money on unemployment. So the politicians look at these numbers and think, keep them locked down, and we are kicking this can down the road, and the pain is now just because it's delayed. Oh, it's it's really really bad, buck, I don't I know. It's a Friday.

I don't want to bring anybody down, But as bad as you think it is, if I were to actually go into all the details of what's happening in this economy, it's ten times worse than that. We are what's going to take serious the problem here? And you know the politicians, you know Cuomo and these people that have been heralded in the media. Has Cuomo has been a disaster in

New York. I mean his contribution so far has been long, overblown press conferences that didn't give us data that we couldn't have gotten in two slides in two minutes, and then also sending people with COVID nineteen back into nursing homes. That's been his contribution to the fight against COVID nineteen in New York. It's it's been an end complaining about

ventilators and then turns out we don't need them. But the fact that people and this is my concern, that people in a majority still want the lockdown to continue. You broke down why some people are still getting a paycheck. Some people don't understand the economic implications. What does it take for that number nationally to move so that people realize we've got has to become personal for enough people, and it hasn't yet. That's just the truth of the matter.

But for two months, a lot most people or either collected unemployment. They're watching Netflix, they're bay drinking, which God God love them for that. But as soon as people start showing up at the supermarket and there's no meat, then they'll realize. As soon as the unemployment checks stopped coming, then they'll realize as soon as we open back up and you have exactly half of the restaurants who used to have, and they'll realize. I mean, people are not

gonna it's official now. We live in a country. Sadly, unless until it becomes personal, people don't care. I thought the one, the one thing I've ever been wrong about ever in my life, buck was at the very beginning of this I told everybody we were going to have thirty plus million unemployed people. Everyone told me I was an idiot and I was wrong, and of course I

turned out to be right, like always. But what I said was, once we hit that number, America will freak out and wake up, and they'll turn on a diamond say open us back up. That's what I was wrong about. They still don't give a crap until fifty one percent of this population is flat broken, busted, we won't open back up again. Thank you, right, which is really disconcerting, But he is right because that's the name of his show. I'm right with Jesse Kelly. That's the place you should

go on Pluto TV to check him out. Also listen to Jesse Kelly Show and down in KPRC Houston. It's a fantastic radio lineup there. They have Jesse Kelly and Buck Sexton, so that makes it the best radio station in Houston, no question. Chuck him out, Jesse, thanks for your time. Man, been good man. You're in the Freedom High. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. I mean it's been stunning. Actually, how the some of his surrogates with

the blue checks. You know that our historians have been saying really horrible things about me and to me on social media. He hasn't himself, but there is a measure of hypocrisy with the campaign saying it's safe. It's not

been safe. You know, all my social media has been hacked, All my personal information has been dragged through every person that maybe has a gripe against me, an ex boyfriend or an ex landlord or whatever it is, has been able to have a platform rather than me talking about things that have nothing to do with nineteen ninety three, like even the whole thing with being called a Russian agent,

that in particular that incites people people. Actually I got a death threat from that because they thought I was being a traitor to America. And I mean, these are serious things, and his campaign is taking this position that they want all women to be able to speak safely.

I have not experienced that. We will not forget the allegations against Joe Biden here on the show, nor will we allow it to go without notice that there are people who are working for the election of Joe Biden, who are supporting him, who are trying desperately to silence terror Reid and her thus far entirely credible, not proven, but credible allegation of sexual assault that does have contemporaneous corroboration.

We're not going to let this go. The Democrats, the Libs, they pretend to have certain principles, certain goals in mind for women, and we know that they're frauds and we will hold them accountable for that. So I know, we didn't talk about this much that in the show, but I will deep dive with you on this on Monday. Don't think that I'm letting this one slide. Joe Biden and the Democrats are going to answer for what they need to here. It's going to happen. Thanks for listening

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to be doing more and more of that. You know. The problem I have now is I'm spending so many hours every day doing radio that I really actually am running out of time to do anything else than any given day. So because I'm doing five hours of radio, which is a lot for anybody, five hours of solo radio. I've never heard of anyone else doing that. I'm sure there are some people who have done it, but I don't know. That's not not common. David Wright saying, hey, Buck,

you're a few years younger than I am. But I remember when I was a kid, if somebody got chicken pox, our parents would have chicken pox parties so we could all get out of the way. I'll be a different, different virus, but same premise. And David, I've heard of this, And yeah, I think people have done this with I mean, I think measles is more dangerous than chicken pox. I don't really know, though, so don't take my word on

that one. Yeah, I've heard of this. Um, you know, chicken pox can actually come back later on in life as shingles too, And interestingly enough, I, as a teenager had I had I had chicken poxes a little kid, but I actually had shingles as a teenager, which is very rare, and they had no idea why. But yeah, I had full blown shingles when I was about eighteen. And to give you a sense of how brilliant doctors are. The first dermatologist, a specialist that I went to, thought

that it was spider bites. It was not spider bites. I had to go back and because it spread and grew and was very painful. It was on the trunk, on my body, and they still I was like, why am I getting I'm a healthy kid, I was eighteen, I was in great shape. I felt fine, Why am I getting shingle? You know, usually it happens people with a weekend immune system when they're older, and it's a recurrence of the chicken pox chicken pox virus that stays

in your system. It lies dormant in your system and comes back later on, making me very bad for a particularly older people. If you get it tends to happen on the trunk or on the face, and if it gets near your eyes, you can actually go blind from it. I think, so you got to be very careful with shingles. It's very painful too. Anyway, Ed Rights producer Mark and Buck glad you're making it through the great lockdown to twenty twenty. Thank you both for what you give us

out here in lockdown. A well thank you, Ed My Talk Radio roots go way back to before the late nineteen eighties when Rush was doing caller Abortions m During the Waco incident, Tacos Ge Gordon Lyddy always referred to the HRT as the WOW as the hostage roasting Team. It sticks with me to this day and I think of it every time you mentioned Waco driving listening with

Shield's Eye, Well, thank you, Ed. Yeah, I mean, I'm I'm telling you everybody listening to this one if you're looking for a show on Netflix, that Waco Show is and it was originally was it? What was it on? What channel? Was Paramount Network? What was it called Paramount Network? It was Paramount Network. Really, I think it was just like US is what FX is now? Well, yeah, it was, that's right. I think it was an FX series and now it's owned by Paramount Um. But it was a Yeah,

it's a very good series, a very good show. I highly highly recommend you check it out. And Taylor Kitch, whom some of you would know from, he played Gambit in one of the X Men movies. Briefly, so if you saw what was it was the Wolverine movie, I think do you know what I'm talking about? Yeah, I know you're talking about, but I don't remember him innute. Yeah, I forget what. Yeah, he was in it. He was like, my name is Remy Lebeaux. I have a weird French

accident and I'm Gambit, you know. And he's only in the movie for a couple of seconds. It is not it's not a good appearance really because the Gambit character they don't I didn't think they did a good job with at all. But he's also from Friday Night Lights, which was a show that I liked a lot, even though it had its problems. But he the Waco you gotta you gotta watch it because here here's the one that this factoid. I knew this beforehand, but this comes

up at the end. FBI said, you had seventy five people die either burned to death or smoke innhilation in the Waco compound. And FBI made no provision to put out the fire after they used the cs gas. So the whole that when the building catches on fire, they didn't think and they'd been parked outside for like two months. Okay, no one thought to have fire trucks handy. That's not exactly great planning. It's not like they were short on

time to figure this out either. And then initially the FBI claimed that they did not use any incendiary devices of any kind while they were using the cs gas to drive them out of the compound. Tear gas basically drive them out of the compound. And then it came out, oh no, they use flashbang gren eggs and grenades, which can be an incendiary device. So they lied. They lied

about it, which you know, FBI cannot lie. You know, maybe they should like put that on big plaques and put her all over the Jay Edgar Hoover building in DC. Quite a guy to name the FBI building for it when you think about some of his stuff. Anyway, I really recommend you see the Waco show surely, And by the way, you know the other thing is, yeah, but the branch Davidians, i mean, David Koresh was a nut job and a peto and a lot of terrible stuff going on there too. But we expect the FBI to

act appropriately even when dealing with Koresh. Koresh like nut jobs. Surely have you seen patients of videos of patients being wheeled out of the hospital after surviving complicated treatment for COVID staff lining the hall is clapping. I guess they are over fifty staff standing right next to each other, but wearing masks inside a hospital yet fill in the blank.

Can't be in a salon, can't be in a church, etc. Etc. Well, surely, I mean, surely, I think I get what you're trying to say here, But keep in mind that in a hospital they're being I mean, they're wearing protective equipment and they're they're all being exposed to the virus. So they're inherently being exposed to virus. It's a little different than say, in a grocery store something like that. But we'll keep it.

We gotta keep an eye on make sure that the standard is applied universally through all these different jurisdictions that are saying you have to wear wear masks. But you know, hospitals, they they're on they're dealing with this stuff, and so they know they know what they're what they're up against. At this point, Dave, how is it that China opened up a while back, but we are still closed with

talk of kids not going back to school in the fault? Dave, that is a very good question for which nobody really has a great answer. Did China really control this thing? Or is China pretending to have it under control? We know China not just not only lied about it in the early stages, but also the Chinese government was stockpiling equipment to deal with it when they were telling everybody else that, you know, there was no big deal here, that's going to be fine. And we know they lied

about the casualties they suffered from this. But have they using extreme measures? Have they really managed to contain which I guess is the best way to describe it, contain the virus. There are some other countries that seem to have achieved a state of containment right now, Australia, Japan, South Korea. They seem to have this contained, but they're also not fully returned, so they have a contained but they haven't really fully returned to normal life either, So

I think that's notable. But the answer is I don't. I don't know exactly, and I don't think anybody really knows exactly how true China's containment is and what they've done well that we could emulate over here. Eric is a very smart character, this Eric, he writes in the subject line, I love producer Mark Gee. I wonder if when producer Mark is looking for roll call segments that is going to catch his attention. Eric, you are a

smooth operator. That was very smart, I admit, and I rarely include the subject line in the email, but I mean when I sent it to you, But Eric worked the system on this one. We gotta give him credit for it. Quick question, Buck, do you think the Salon case in Dallas will end up in the Supreme Court to determine the constitutionality of it. I hope it gets deemed unconstitutional to set a pressent for the next time the Lips try to pull this again. What are your thoughts, Eric,

I don't it's not going to go that far. I think the state is likely to drop all charges against her. And you know we've seen this now with the Supreme Court decision that I actually think was the wrong one for guns and the transportation of legally owned firearms here in New York, where all they had to do was once they got caught with what was clearly an unconstitutional law, they changed the law a little bit, and then when it makes its way with the Supreme Court, Supreme Court

says it's a moot point. It doesn't matter anymore. So if the lockdown, you know, I would think that some of this stuff we're seeing in lockdowns, if people sue when they're suing for relief, unless they can prove specific damages to themselves or their business, which I'm sure a lot of people could. But you know, this is going to get very complicated. But they're going to also say, well, look, this is no longer the law, so we don't really

have to worry about this, do we. That seems to me to be at least somewhat the precedent that was set in that Supreme Court case you're in the freedom Hunt. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. All right, rollcall continuing here. Buck love the show. Listen to the podcast every day. This is from Nate. Thank you so much, Nate.

Here in Virginia, Comrade Northam just extended our non essential business shutdown for the whole state, despite fifty percent of Virginia's cases being limited to the counties and cities around DC and Richmond. I live in a small city in the western part of the state. We only have twenty confirmed cases and one hospitalization. I spoke to a friend whose wife is a nurse with the UVA Health System, and according to her, only three of the hospitals twenty

ventilators have been used. My parents are in the high risk category, but even they say this has gone on way too long. We're all just hard of being cooped up in our houses. Yeah. I hear this from more and more people, even who are in the high risk category in New York too. They're saying, you, guys, we might be a little slower, but you who are at lower risk, if you want to go out there, you should be able to. You should be able to open

your business. Just go to work and start to engage in day to day life and commerce and things like going to the gym. If the gym in my in my building where I live opened and I live in a building with hundreds and hundreds of residents, so the gym can be very busy. If the gym in my building opened up, I would go tomorrow. Just the truth. I mean, I know there's some risk or whatever, and you know, I try not to touch my eyes a lot after touching the shared equipment and stuff, But you know,

what else are you gonna do? Because man, I'm getting a little slower and a little rounder every day. Right now. I've done I've been doing some push ups here and there when I can, But you know, it's tough to motivate through pushups when like you're just wearing sweats all day and the most exciting part of your day is picking out what you're gonna watch on TV, and you know what you're gonna put on the popcorn you're making, Slash the ice cream you're eating, Slash the cookies that

you might be baking. You know what I mean? What happens to that one hundred push up challenge? I got about seven days in it, and then I got a headache and I kind of fell off then for a week. Though, well it's more than I did, I guess. Yeah, I mean, so I probably should get back to because it's supposed to be thirty days not seven buck Yeah, good, good point, good reminder. That multipodcast, you know, I got it to do list I got. I would put the multipodcast above

the pushups. That's just me alright, alright, fair enough, Oh, Nate writes more. I didn't even see this. I get a laugh, perfect tibe. Whatever your producer, Mark discuss pet options. I've had guinea pigs for about eight years. They're very friendly and common. Great attributes for when you're stuck at home during a pandemic, plus easy to maintain. If you really want to be ambitious, you can get their South American cousin, the copy Bara, which is truly a an

r o us a rodent of unusual size. Keep up the great work, shields high, Nate. Can you legally get a copy bar in America? I know, they're like rats that are the size of dogs, literally the size of dogs. They are rodents that are huge. Yeah, they're they do no googles. No, no, I don't. I don't want to know. They're kind of cute though, because they don't have a scary looking rat face. Just get a doll, yeah, or just get you see. Basically, you want me to get

a subway rat, June. No, no, no, a thirty pound subway rat. I mean, I wouldn't be shocked if you saw one of those on the subway, would you? Especially? Yeah? I feel like you don't know what they down there. I've definitely seen some rats that I feel like we're three or four pounds, three or four. I've seen ones that are at least close to ten. Come on, yes, come on, you've never seen one on the subway would be absolutely I might be exaggerating a little bit, but

like there's some huge rats down on the subway system. Yeah. Man, it's a perfect environment for them. They're people just throwing trash and food down there all the time. They can you know, they have no real they have no real predators. People start trash on the tracks as if there's not like a garbage can ten feet away from them. I did,

you know? I did. I never understand why people can't take better, better care of their trash on the subway, and then they complain when the subway shuts down because the trash is on fire or something. Yeah, it's crazy, Jake, keeps it going here, Buck, you really should move to Nashville. You would have access to an iHeartRadio facility, no state income tax, and minimum state gun laws not to mention freedom.

You could live in the middle of the city if you wanted to stay urban, or you could live in a suburban rural area if you wanted to breathe clean air, not paying state income tax. You could probably fly back to see your family in NYC once a month and still come out ahead. Jake, that is a very feasible and enticing plan. So don't think that that has not crossed my mind, especially as the New York shutdown continues to drag on and on. I love Nashville, great town.

I actually just spoke to a friend yesterday out in Denver about trying to go out and see our friends at ninety three seven FM in Denver. So once the world opens up and I can start to travel again, they mean that I've been promising KLBJ Austin, and I've been promising and now recently ninety three seven FM Denver, that I'll make stops there. So those are two very high on the list for me. But we got we got a lot of places, a lot of places we want to visit, you know, a lot of things that

we want to want to check out and see. I mean, we got WRNO in New Orleans. I love New Orleans. Bruster Mark, we'd go on a little, a little field trip down there. Check that out. Yeah, as long as you're taking producer Mark with you, I'm okay with all of us. Yeah. I've never even been in Nebraska. Kfab in Omaha, Nebraska. Love to check out the k KFAB folks. They've been loyal Team buck listeners for years. We got so many We've got so many places. WHP and Harrisburg, Pennsylvania.

Wa WHP has been with us since the beginning of this show. They were early buck Leavers and so that's old school Team Buck there as well. So you know we've got waeb Allantown Bethlehem, Pennsylvania another great station that. I mean, these are all places I want to go visit and promising to do it for a while, but you know, it's tough when the planes are all shut down.

So I'm gonna make it happen. I'm gonna make it happen. JJ. Those who believe in the sacredness of a government's right to supreme power is a belief that the government is a benevolent parent who will make you live in a warm, predict protected bubble with no cares or worries. They are perpetual children, deluding themselves that they're giving up their choices for the greater good, afraid of the consequences of people allowed to make their own choices. I don't think I

have much to add to that. Thanks, JJ, team, have a fantastic weekend. Shields High