You're listening to the Buck Sexton Show podcast, make sure you subscribe to the podcast on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. I thought we were supposed to be unified. I thought they were going to bring us all together, that we were entering a new phase in the history of the country, or at least in the recent history, where we were all supposed to be buddies united, coming together in this new, technocratic, competent, calm
Biden administration. Right, that was the promise. And now what you're already seeing is that the Biden people aren't as smart as they told you they would be, don't give a crap about unity, and are actually ideologues driven by their desire to play kate the fringe interests that have so much control within the Democrat Party, whether it's on identity politics, environmental issues, social justice, all these things. It's
not the presidency they said we'd get. But if you knew that was the case, it was always a lie. It was always meant to convince medium to low information suburban voters in some key states. You'll just have a return to normalcy, that's what they said, a return to normalcy. Well, it turns out that's not what we're getting. What we're getting is the return of the Obama administration. That's what's really happening here. That's the reality of what has now
taken power. And you see this with every decision being made so far, and also all the people who are in charge, the people that are making the decisions right now, who are making the calls about everything that's happening, are very similar in some cases the same as those who were doing it during the Obama years. You remember the Obama years. Was there a lot of national healing? Did it really bring us all together? There were race riots during the Obama Obama presidency, as you remember the BLM
protests started. Then, there were there was economic malaise at best, the slowest recovery out of a recession since the Great Depression. There was a lot of unnecessary government regulation and harassment of people in their day to day lives. There was oppression of religious freedom, there was suppression of free speech. You're getting all that just coming back under a different name,
but the same idea. And this is why I think it's so interesting that they want to continue to fixate on the Trump presidency, because I think that They never really thought beyond what happens when there's no longer the Trump boogeyman for everyone to be terrified of what happens at that phase, at that point when you can't just well, they're not letting it go. That's why you have this impeachment that they're going to do after a Trump presidency
has already ended. Joe Biden I was gonna say, for better or for worse, it's for worse is now the president United States. This is an absurd spectacle. We all understand this. I mean, you could have replaced Joe Biden with forty other sub mediocre Democrat politicians. It'd be basically the same thing, just anybody. But Trump was what they ran with and that's what they were able to pull off. And now we see what they're really going to be doing, and now we see what the actual decision making will
be like. And that's why with this impeachment situation, they're they're making it clear for everybody who's watching exactly what's going on. You can see it. They're not hiding it. They're keeping thousands and thousands of National Guard soldiers in DC for the entirety of the impeachment Democrats to actually get Trump convicted would need seventeen Republicans to go along
with this. But I think the even more important, the even more important situation here is that there's a for me, a clear there's there's a clear decision that has been made that they want all these troops in DC because we're supposed to believe that there's still a threat of a coup. They want everyone terrified, they want everyone worried about the possibility of you know, the Trump supporters storming the gates and stopping the Senate impeachment trial or whatever.
This is hysteria, but it's important for their power grab. Or if you look throughout history, whenever there are authoritarians, whenever there are people that are taking more power than they are legally, constitutionally or otherwise supposed to be granted in government, whatever that happens, they have an excuse, They have some rational it's always the other guys, we're going to do this first, or if we didn't do this, you know, this terrible thing was going to happen. They
don't just say, yeah, we're we're despots. We're seizing all authority and power into our hand because we like it. Because we think we're better than you because we think we know better than you, and you're not allowed to complain. That's not the pitch. That's not the way they justify
their actions, even when that's exactly what they're doing. So here, what they've decided to do is that they take it upon themselves to be the people ordering thousands and thousands of National Guard to be deployed all throughout DC because of the threat of Trump supporters. I mean, this is this is absurd. We're really supposed to think that that Trump supporters are going to do? What will they protest
in DC? Abe? But a are we to think that they're gonna violently try to overthrow the Senate or do something along those lines. I know what they would say. I know the Democrat response would be, they tried it that one time, on that one day. All right. It was a disaster. It wasn't a coup. It was a riot. And anybody who has any sense at all understands that it was the worst possible thing from a purely political standpoint. It was the worst possible thing that a Trump supporter
could have done on that day at that time. It played right, It played right into the Democrats hands put aside the illegality and immorality of it for a moment. It played right into the Democrats hands. So we're gonna
believe it, that's gonna happen again. No, but they want thousands and thousands of troops deployed so that this can be the way that the hysterical Democrats, Oh my gosh, the Trump supporters can continue to play this game while they show everybody while during this transition period, not the official presidential transition that's already happened, but this change into the new regime. We don't really pay attention to what
Biden's doing. We don't pay attention to the actions he's taking because the media will just be focused on one, how amazing Biden. Do you know that his son went bagel shopping with him on Sunday after going to church. It's disgusting, the throne shining, the foot rubbing, the Oh gosh, Joe Biden's so amazing. Stuff you're seeing from the media is there. They're an embarrassment, but this is their business model, telling Democrats, telling the brainwashed left, how incredible this this
clown Joe Biden is. I mean, really, we're all supposed to think that he's some great leaders, some great mind. Nobody believes that, but they're all acting like it's true. This is the emperor having no clothes on, except the emperor is almost eighty years old, and you do worry that he actually doesn't remember where pants. I mean, that's where we are with this situation. But oh, we need
thousands of National Guard deployed. And they're even asking, they're raising the question themselves, why are we on the streets of DC exactly? What are we doing here? What's the mission? What's the real threat? You know what the threat is. They're gonna tell you. They're gonna tell you that it's Trump voters trying to overthrow the Senator, some crazy nonsense like that. But the real problem is that they don't know how to keep their rage filled base happy without
Donald Trump as the ultimate political pinata. And they also don't want people to start to see that Joe Biden is really an incompetent and that the people running this administration are the Democrat members of the establishment and the apparatus the left in general, who have decided what the policies will be, what the decision making will be. Joe Biden is just the vessel otherwise. Explain why he's getting
rid of the Keystone XL pipeline. Explain why he thinks men should be able to compete in women's sports, biological males competing against biological females. Look at the whole list of executive orders. It was all divisive and bad policy. These were objectively bad decisions for the country. But it's what the left demands. You're gonna see a whole lot more of it. They didn't. They didn't wait very long, did they. They didn't wait at all. Because this is
the presidency we're dealing with. They can tell you as much as they want about how there's other plans and other things, and just wait one day, we'll get there. But in the meantime, it's the continuation of the three ring circus around Donald Trump, and oh my gosh, the Republic will fall unless we have thousands and thousands of soldiers deployed to stop those big, bad, mean Trump supporters, all seventy five million of them. This is the Buck
Sexton Show podcast. Follow Buck on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter. What's the number one change of notice between from President Biden to President Biden from President Trump. It was very clear, George, and it was articulated multiple times. The President has said it publicly, but in a private session just sitting down with him and with the medical team, he's very serious. He says science is going to rule. We're gonna go by the facts. We're gonna go by the evidence. We're
gonna go by the data. If something is wrong, like I just said, we're gonna just try and fix it, then we're gonna pull out all the stops to get our arms around this. Getting the vaccine situation on track is his highest priority. So I mean the idea that the president himself sits down with you and says, I want science to rule. Go out there and do everything we need to do to get it done. Just as
really very refreshing. Science will rule is a terrifying slogan for anybody who knows history to hear science will rule. I thought we the people rule through our elected representatives. But now now all of a sudden, there's some high priesthood of the hashtag science variety that's going to be making really important policy decisions for us. You know who also thinks that science will rule? This is true Marxists.
They always believe that all the social sciences, which aren't really science, as you know, but that there was a fact and evidence based way to order a society that was irrefutable and must be true, is always true, even when the results suck. That science is all you need, you see, to reorder humankind so that we can all have everything we need. And this is a fundamental tenet of Marxism is to treat it as though they're running a lab experiment on how to grow the fastest petunias,
except we're talking about human beings. We're talking about the complexities and the moral questions that face the human race. But the Marxists believe that with science, that's all you need, and their science was really a pseudoscience of Marxism. That's the whole point, you see. It's the answer to everything. This is why it really is all a religious belief,
you see. And Fauci is going to be for anybody who's watching and being honest about this, is going to be proven to be essentially a giant fraud in this whole process. He's been wrong. He's been wrong numerous times. Here's a fact for you, Doctor Fauci lied to the American people about masks by his own admission, because he thought that that was a better thing for us to go through when he said don't wear masks and then said, oh, it's because I thought we'd run out of masks, Okay,
so he lied. This guy's a liar. This is the whole the Truth and Science administration. This guy deceived the American public. But really the truth is that he didn't deceive the American public the way he said. It's that all of science, until about five minutes ago, thought that wearing a mask and a pandemic like this wasn't going
to have the kind of beneficial result. That doesn't mean no benefit, but wouldn't have the kind of beneficial results we keep being led to believe mask mandates will because it's become part of the religion. Now, that's not to
say there's no truth to it. That's not to say that I'm telling you that they don't work at all or no. N ninety five masks and a clinical setting absolutely help with respiratory infections a disease, no question, and in some situations maybe a cloth mask would also have not the same benefit, but some benefit, but as a means of stopping the pandemic. Has it worked? Look around you. I'm in mask central here in New York City. Has it stopped the virus? Has it stopped the pandemic or
even come close to it? No, we're setting all time records, but we didn't do it enough. That's why you're seeing. You can find them yourself to two or three articles now coming out last last week from the New York Times alone time a double mask, gotta I'm not making this up. Got a double mask. Well, you can see if you go back on my Twitter account, just to give you a sense. Somehow I can tell what's coming.
Somehow I know what's going to happen here. But you go back in my Twitter account and you see that I said on December tenth. Here we are now. It is January twenty fifth, I tweeted on December tenth. Sometime in about mid January, when cases are still very high, despite all the painful lockdown insanity, there will be an n ninety five. Masks are actually far more effective. We should have advocated for those all along. Moment of recognition
from the experts. Well, I shared yesterday a story from from CNN that says that Germany has mandated only medical grade masks. Why, because those homemade cloth masks that are so effective at blocking COVID, they're like, well, actually they don't look like they're that effective. And one large German state, Bavaria, has mandated N ninety five masks only. So now it's if you're not wearing an N ninety five mask, you
can't even get on mass transit. You can't go into public places, not even one of those medical grade you know, two ply fabric masks gotta be N ninety five. Why did I know this was going to happen. I'm not a doctor, I'm not a Blue check MD. I'm not one of these these pandemic epidemiologists they keep putting on CNN every five minutes. Why did I know this was going to happen? Because I know what the arguments are here, and I know that they keep on being wrong and
ignoring it and saying, shut up, wear your mask. It's gonna save us. Okay, hasn't saved us yet, has it? So what do they do? They change the argument, and then if you question them, you're the problem. Doctor Fauci was the beginning of this. He said, don't wear the mask, and then people said, Hold on a second. You know you now say wear them, and he says, well, I had to lie to you for your own good. An administration is that is ruled by science. That's what he said,
ruled by science. You don't think that Fauci's a power mad little maniac. Now you know. He's the highest paid employee in the federal government, makes more than a four star general, makes more than the president of the United States. He's making over four hundred thousand dollars a year. It's a great gig to have, basically unfireable. He's been sitting there for decades. It's going to lots of meetings making bad policy decisions under the guise of the rule of science.
The CDC with this whole thing, has been a disaster, a disaster, and it's because it's a decades long, decades long in the making, federal bureaucratic screw up, because there's no accountability, because you don't want government in charge of things because they don't do a good job. But oh, that's right, we'll be ruled by science, he says, as if that's all that's all that has to be said. And then beyond that, we're supposed to just be quiet
and listen. Do as you're told. Oh, okay, we'll get into Gavin Newsom all of a sudden is going to open up California. Are the cases so different? There? Is it such a different situation? And if we're going to be ruled by the science, explain to me the science of not allowing the Keystone XL pipeline, which Biden just
shot down. The whole project is now scrapped by executive FIAT not allowing the Keystone XEL pipeline when the State Department's analysis under the Obama administration was that blocking Keystone would increase CO two emissions. That's right, increase by blocking. But they're doing it anyway, ruled by science. They say, sure, you're in the freedom hunt. Thanks for listening to The Buckston Show podcast to get the latest from Buck at buck Sexton dot com. Well, I mean, obviously it was
it was not an easy situation. I always did speak based on the data and the science, but obviously there was pressure about messaging that. And you know, I have I took no pleasure in having to sometimes publicly, even with the President there, to contradict what he was saying. But I felt as a scientist. I had to be true to myself and true to the science to make sure that where there were things that I thought might be misinformation, that I would have to correct that. And
there were a number of instances of that. That is not a comfortable situation, you know. It also was in a comfortable situation for doctor Fauci is being in the position that you're supposed to have been preparing for your whole life and just being a disaster, having no real plan, no answers, just being a political megaphone of fear. I mean, I'm hearing people now who say, yes, buck, you know what, This is what democrats will tell you. Sure, some of
the pandemic theater that we go through is idiotic. Sure, some of the things that we're being told to do make no sense, won't change anything, and it's absurd. But it's about conditioning the public to respond to health commands like this. Oh so it's Pavlovian. It's like we're all a bunch of dogs getting our treat from the government. Maybe we get patted on the head afterwards. This is
what democrats who are being honest will openly tell you. Now, well, it's really sure, Maybe what you're doing makes no sense. But if everybody does something nonsensical about COVID, then there might be some benefit that comes from it. That's worth
all the nonsense. For you. Tell that to the people who have lost their jobs, you know, Tell that to the people who are losing family members to severe depression and to suicide, to the kids who are losing developmental time in school that will never be able to get back all the costs that we're willing to take on apparently, or are we, because now all of a sudden, some Blue states are saying, you know what, we might have
to reopen soon. Oh we'll get into that in a moment, because I first want to start with the ruled by science bullcrap here when it comes to the Keystone XL pipeline. Just as a quick review, the enviral wackos have decided this is this is gonna be like Waterloo for the fossil fuel industry. They think this is the single most
important battle they can wage. And they're all celebrating now, and they got you know, Native American groups in on this, and all all the left wing virtue signaling nonsense piled together here to stop the Keystone XCEL pipeline. By way of quick review, the Keystone Xcel pipeline would take the oil sands from the from the from Canada, from Alberta and take them all the way down to the US Gulf Coast. That's what that's the whole thing, right, And
it's a pipeline. And the truth is that this would have just been a very efficient way because we refine it so we would have a refinery agreement with them, and then we'd be able to distribute it to the whole world. This would be a very effective and efficient way to get the oil to market. And despite the Left's best intentions otherwise, we have become America has become because of fracking, an energy a true energy superpower. We're
really the world's global preeminent energy superpower. You don't hear about that because about half the country Democrats are so brainwashed that they think that's not something to be proud of. It absolutely is. It's the reason we have so much productivity. The fossil fuel industry is used in the creation fifty percent of oil, for example, and fossil fuel is used for products and is used in the distribution of products,
you know, distribution of things like vaccine, that's right. Want you want an effective vaccination distribution program, you need a lot of energy for logistics. You need a lot of energy in order to keep that temperature at negative whatever it is, a degree celsius so that the vaccine can stay viable. And you need money for all of this, and it becomes more expensive when oil and fossil fuels
are more expensive. They are fighting the modern economy itself, which is an absurdity, and they pretend that they're doing in the name of science, which is laughable. Do you know what the net CO two benefit of blocking the
Keystone XL pipeline. According to multiple full State Department reviews, Because it is an international deal, the State Department got to review it, including under the Obama administration, the net CO two change is either negligible to zero or negative, meaning that this oil is still going to come out
of the ground. It's just going to be taken in tankers and trucks to market instead of with a pipeline, which is far more efficient and far more cost effective and also less likely eutherapy leakage and spills which affect the environment. The Keystone XL pipeline blockage is worse for everyone in every way. It is worse for the environment, It is worse for business, It is worse for you because of what it means for jobs, for the economy, and for energy costs. But Democrats are blocking it anyway.
Why because they can, Because the envirol wackos have convinced themselves that this is a battle they have to win. They have to show that they have the power even when all science and reason are against them, even when there is no data to support their point of view. They have to find a situation like this where they can rally together and get the government to shut down something because they don't like it. Oil is ikey, fossil
fuel bad. Shut it down. It's childish, it's destructive, it's stupid, and it's the first thing that Biden does day one in office, signs an executive order on this to stop the Keystone XIL pipeline. There's no good faith argument about why to shut this thing down compared to the alternatives, if it's really about the environment, unless you're gonna say, oh, it's because there would definitely be some kind of an
oil disaster. They don't know that, and pipelines are far less likely to have spills and disasters than other forms of transport. Yeah, how many horrible oil pipeline disasters have you heard. You've heard of tankard disasters, right, transit point disasters when it involves vehicles. But how many pipeline disasters have you heard about in the United States recently? Yeah, exactly. But this was the left flexing the environmentalist left, and
they're a religious group. You have to understand that the climate change activists, the anti pipeline activists, this is a religious group of people who think they're too smart for religion, and so for them, it's just all about the victory. It's all about enforcing their will on the rest of the American people and establishing that they have the power to do that, even if it just means that the
outcomes are negative for everyone involved, which they are. This somehow, just like the BLM movement, which I said to you last summer, makes everything worse for everyone. There is no improvement. It makes nothing better for people, doesn't make things better for minorities, doesn't make things better for the police, doesn't make things better for just Americans. Blocking the Keystone XIL pipeline is the same thing for the left. But it shows you the mentality. This is just going to make
energy costs higher. This is going to cost lots of jobs, and it won't even if you believe that CO two is going to melt the planet over time or whatever, if you're a climate change alarmist alarmist, this does not stop the oil sands of Alberta from producing fossil fuels that will make it to the global market. So it's the same either way. In fact that the distribution of that oil sand now will require more fossil fuel. Therefore
there'll be more CO two in the air. But they're doing it anyway because they're fixated on it, because they want to wield power, because we said, we don't like it. She's the ruled by science people, right, we don't like it, so we're gonna stop. It doesn't make any sense. And it's not the do you think, doctor Fouch it's gonna say.
You know, turns out if you look at the data and all the you know, and all the scientists that look at the Keystone XCEL and the CEO two, you know, if you look at it, No, he's not, of course, not for the same reason that Fauci won't say, open up all the schools for the same reason that Fauci won't say that wearing masks outside is the mandating outdoor
mask wearing is dumb and counterproductive. He won't say that because he exists as a kind of you know, little a little genie of left wing democrat science demagoguery, you know, rub the lamp and Fauci appears to tell the Democrats exactly what they want to hear about science, never tells them what they don't want to hear. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. Join the conversation and message Buck on Facebook, Instagram, or email Team Bucket. iHeartMedia dot com.
He may read it on the show. These channels are more antidemocrat than they are pro Trump. And the Biden bashing has been turned up to eleven and twelve and thirteen. So has the media bashing. By the way, take a look at us some of the banners from Fox's air in the past few days. Fox a huge member of the national news media, pretending like it's not a member of the media at all, claiming that the media is out to praise Biden, fawn over Biden. He's the media's messiah,
every hour, every day. That's the narrative, and it's gonna be like this for the next four years. So Biden can talk about politics not needing to be a raging fire, that the fire doesn't have to be raging, but it is. It is today, and it was yesterday and it will be tomorrow. On these shows that millions of people watch. Unity is impossible, Okay. The United States is living in this parallel there's parallel universes within the United States. Unity
is not feasible. It's not. But can the temperature be lowered just two or three degrees? Wouldn't that help? Isn't that possible? Would it be better if you just gave up all the things that you want to need and add submit to the rule of science at CTED? The rule of science at CNN has a good rig to it, doesn't it? Yes, it does. Why are you saying that the media is so nice? Debided? We're super hard at bided. Yeah.
Noticed that the problem is just that there's one channel that is pointing out that all the other channels are giving Biden a BackRub on air constantly. There's one but one channel saying, look what these other channels are doing that's not allowed. Should there be any opposition media whatsoever under a bid administration? Really ask yourself that question. The
journals in this country are so pathetic. There's such little quizzlings that they seem to think that the real service they can provide is to be cheerleaders for a administration that has ninety five percent of the information purveyors out there in media, news and journalism to be completely on their team. That's what we're told, that's the way it should be. That's a that's a better way forward. I mean, this is laughable. This is what they do, this is
what they demand, absolutely absurd. So with that, I also want to point out that now they're having these Trump is gone, let's have the high priests and priestesses of the science bureaucracies come forward to speak to us about what's really happening in the country, including doctor Deborah Burke's best known I think for wearing colorful scarves at the at the meetings that she was a frequent participant in the early days of the COVID pandemic. Here she is
play play play six. Did you ever consider quitting? Always? I mean, why would you want to put yourself through that? Every day? Colleagues of mine that I'd known for decades, decades in that one experience, because I was in the White House, decided that I had become this political person, even though they had known me forever. I had to ask myself every morning, is there something that I think I can do that would be helpful in responding to
this pandemic? And it's something I asked myself every night. And when it became a point where I wasn't getting anywhere, and that was like right before the election, I wrote a very detailed communication plan of what needed to happen the day after the election and how that needed to be executed, and there was a lot of promise that would happen. You knew at that point that the election was a factor in communication about the virus. Yes, did
you ever withhold information yourself? No, of course the election was a factor in the way the virus is being described the entire media. I mean, CNN made its coronavirus death counter go away when Joe Biden came into office. You can see this, this is real, this happened, And that's just one indicator. There are so many others. But but now you know, doctor Burke's all this stuff they're saying about the Trump administration. The Trump administration listened to
Fauci and Burkes. They pushed for the fifteen days to slow the spread, which was obviously preposterous now in retrospect, because it was really, you know, five months to slow the spread and then now we're back to another five months to slow the spread. It it was never just fifteen days, but that's how they sold it. It was dishonest. They were never going to let us reopen after fifteen days. But now now you're starting to see, oh, that's right,
Joe Biden's in charge. Is everything better all of a sudden, has the virus gone away way force? Not? In fact, it's it has been the worst that it's ever been recently. And yet Burks is out there because look, they want to be liked by the establishment. Every the establishment is so powerful. It's money, it's prestige, it's how people treat you. Right, you want the establishment on your side if you can have it. If you're one of these public health officials,
I get it. I understand same things true in media. By the way, do you know any more options I would have with my career right now? If I just became a kind of even a sort of moderate controlled opposition Republican. Yeah, I say with the Democrats, I kind of talk them sometimes, but I say what the Democrats mostly want me to say, go on so many more channels, and you know, you get a bigger book deal and
all this stuff. Burks knows that, and that's why she's got to come out now and say all this stuff. When she and Fauci were failures with a big f failures in the way they came up with a response to the pandemic. Everything about it, it was, it was absurd. Here she is talking about the parallel data Play five. Do you think President Trump appreciated the gravity of the health crisis you were describing. I think the President appreciated
the gravity. In March, it took a while after I wrapped in the White House to remove all of the answer Larry data that was coming in. I mean, there was parallel data stream coming into the White House that were not transparently utilized, and I needed to stop that. Where apew mean outside advisors, outside advisors coming to inside advisors.
And to this day, I mean until the day I left, I am I'm convinced they were parallel data streams because I disinformation I saw the President presenting graphs that I never made, so I know that someone or someone out here or someone inside was creating a parallel set of data and graphics that were shown to the president. I know what I sent up, and I know that what was in his hands was different from that Who name names doctor Burkes, won't you? This is the Buck Sexton
Show podcast. Follow Buck on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter. I'm hopeful that members are going to be open minded, that they are going to when they raise their hand and take that oath, that they're going to view the evidence that is presented to them, and that they're going to do the right thing. I cannot be moved by the mascinations of politics that are going on in the interim while we're trying to put this together. I think that you know, we're going to be speaking to all one
hundred centers. We're not going to be speaking to one group or the other. And I'm hopeful that they're going to do what's necessary to truly unify this country, and that unification can happen until there was a reckoning for crimes against it, unify by having one side purge the other of its most recent president. Unify by benning the knee and surrendering and promising that you'll be a meek and mild and submissive Republican party going forward. That's the
pathway to unity. And as Chuck Schumer now said, a majority leader, good God, as he says it, that's the only way also to have accountability. Play that clip. Everyone wants to put this awful chapter in American history behind us, but sweeping it under the rug will not bring healing. The only way to bring healing is to actually have real accountability, which this trial affords. And so we will move forward with the trial. It will be fair, but it will move at a relatively fast pace. Unity through
your side being further humiliated. Isn't it amazing? Everybody wants to put this in their rear view mirror, but let's all focus on it for the next few weeks. This is what they're telling you. Would it be like saying, you know, I know, you've been out in the sun too long and you're burning, but stay out for another two hours because that's the best way to handle it.
This is insane. This is what they're telling you. They've got to justify this somehow, and they've got a problem here, because anybody who's looking at what's happening with a reasonable eye would say, hold on unity. Unity for our purposes here is going to mean doing the most divisive thing that can possibly do at this stage, to go after a former president. This is because they want to bar him from office. This is not because justice demands it.
This is not because they want that Trump died. They want Trump to be the first president in history, in history to be convicted by a Senate trial as part of the impeachment process and to be barred from running for future office. That's because they want to destroy the Trump movement right now, and they know that if they get this against the father, than any of his children, anyone else in the Trump world that wants to run will have to deal with this. Now. Perhaps it'll backfire.
I know some of you would make that argument that this would then catapult Ivanka or Don Junior or somebody else to the front of the line for the GOP. I'm not confident that that's the case, and I think that there's I think that the political skills that Donald Trump Senior has are not necessarily transferable through pure genetics to whoever else comes along with the name Trump, but I could be wrong on that. Well, no, I don't think I'm wrong on that, but I'm open to seeing
how this plays out. That all said, they want to make sure that Donald Trump can't run again because they know he can win again. And we know that that's a possibility too, And this is why they're doing everything they can to tell you something that you know as soon as it said to you is bs. You know that what they're saying as a false narrative, but they have no way around it. Let's all come together here through a divisive process. Let's lower the temperature by turning
the temperature up. That's what post presidency conviction would be here. And this is what they offer up. This is their their promise to all of us. And it's not only it's not only the Democrats who are saying stuff. I mean there are different levels among the Republicans. You've got Romney, who who's now effectively a Democrat. I mean Romney has made his bed now we should sleep in. And Romney as a Democrat. He's a moderate Democrat. That's what this
guy has become. Marches with BLM, turns on it. I mean, remember he voted he would have more credibility with me now if he had had enough sense to not vote to impeach Trump and remove Trump the first time around over the Ukraine phone call, which was absurd. That was just the whole problem. It was entirely bonkers, unserious stuff. But that is what Romney went for. Here he is
telling us again, he's parroting the Chuck Schumer lines. It's like Chuck Schumer's handing him the script, Romney saying that the way to bring us all together is to spit in the face of seventy five million Trump voters. Yeah, play eleven. Well, we're certainly going to have a trial.
I wish that weren't necessary. The president's conduct with regards to the call the Secretary of State Raffensburger in Georgia, as well as the incitation towards the insurrection that led to the attack on the Capitol calls for a trial. And you know, if we're going to have a unity in our country, I think it's important to recognize the need for accountability, for truth and justice. So I think there will be a trial, and I hope it goes as quickly as possible, But that's up to the Council
on both sides. Yeah, there will be a trial. Unity, accountability. These are the words you're going to hear. What about the old president that we have of You don't go back and look for prosecutions of the former administration. Donald Trump could could have pushed for and his doj could have gotten a criminal trial brought against Hillary Clinton for example, and I know locker up chat and everything. Some people wanted that, but they didn't do it. Maybe disappointed a
lot of Trump voters, but they didn't do it. Why because it sets a terrible precedent for politics in this country to even have the even have the perception, the belief to be out there that that one side is weaponizing the prosecutorial apparatus against the other for political reasons. This completely devolves a democracy. This destroys a republic. This ruins everything because it means that you establish a winner takeoff philosophy in politics that then becomes corrosive of everything.
It's not a temporary, peaceful transfer of power based upon the will of the people. It's how do we make sure we stay in charge because otherwise the other side is going to throw us into prison. Once that becomes the mentality It's no longer about our sacred democracy and who's count you know, who's who's getting to vote and have a say in their future. It's this is just winner take all, bare knuckle power struggle. And that's why
we haven't done that in the past. That's why there's you know, you even you even look at the approach taken in in situations where there have been, uh, there has been misconduct by politicians where you know they were the president, and you look at Nixon, I mean the pardon of Nixon by Ford, Nixon, Reagan, Ford and Johnson, you know, gurgling with Gurgan. I kind of missed that guy. But you look at all the things that go on and you say to yourself, there's a there's a bigger
picture here that we have to keep in mind. There are broader themes and issues at work, and that's what is being completely cast aside now, and very conveniently, I would add, by Democrats just pushed aside. They don't care. They simply don't care. They think they have more important things to do, like destroying this president. Marco Rubio takes a kind of middle pathway here, and there's already new stories out about how Ivanka is going to run for his seat, so you know, he's he's trying to hold
on in Florida. He's looking for his place in the future of the party. Margot plays his cards right. He could be a name that really carries some sway among Republicans in the future. You don't know, you know, he could have a second act here. But even he sees that while it might be in his immediate interests to turn on the Trump dynasty because of the challenge that Ivanka would bring to him in Florida, even with that going on, he understands that this impeachment is just a
terrible idea. Play fourteen. I think the president bears responsibility for some of what had happened. It was most certainly a foreseeable consequence of everything that was going on, and I think that's widely understood. It maybe even better understood with the perspective of time. I think that's separate from the notion of let's revisit this all and stir it up again. It's not. You know, the stories are still going to be written, and there's criminal justice, investigations are
going to continue to move forward. All these things are still going to happen. All I'm arguing is we have some really important things to work on. You want to really kind of bring the country together and remember once again how we can get things done. It isn't by uniformity on all the issues. It's about working through a process that allows people with different points of view to debate all that and get to a solution for the country.
All that we're just gonna go. We're gonna jump right back into what we've been going through the last five years and stirring it up again with the trial, and it's just going to be bad for the country. It really is. It absolutely is, and anybody who anybody who's being honest can see that. But for Democrats, this isn't about what's best for the country. We know that they're
bitter still about Trump. The media is by and large angry still because of what Donald Trump said about them, did to them, the way he used his Twitter account to slap them down. They haven't forgotten that they want payback. This is all about payback now for a lot of Democrats. For others is also payback plus control of the future and making sure that Donald Trump is unable to run for office ever again and think about the stain that
would leave on the Republican Party too. We'd be the only party that has a president, given everything we've seen in the two hundred plus year history of this country, would be the only political party to have a president who not only is impeached after leaving office, but is impeached and loses in a Senate trial. By the way, I don't think that he will lose in this Senate trial, but in the attempt, then all they get is further division.
I think that the Republicans know that if Mitch McConnell knows this, if they go for it and they fail, come at the King, you best not miss and the Trumpster does not forget You're in the freedom hunt. Thanks for listening to The Buck Sexton Show podcast. Get the latest from Buck at buck Sexton dot com. I don't there's any question that what the whole country needs to needs to focus on in terms of our elections is
making sure that we have some effective electoral reform. Nobody wants to wait a week or two weeks or three weeks, which happened to some of the House races to get election results. We need to work on that and make the system better for twenty twenty two. But this election was not stolen. All of the facts point in that direction. And I'm a former prosecutor, George. I make decisions based upon evidence, not based upon feelings or partisanship or loyalty.
You make those decisions based upon evidence, and the evidence here has shown right from the beginning that while every election has some irregularities, and I'm sure this one did too, there were no type of irregularities that would have changed the result in any one state, let alone the four states that would need to have been changed for the
result of the election have been changed. And folks in my party who are doing that, quite frankly, are just trying to make political points with those people who the President and others lied to about this over the course of the ten weeks to the election, and it's shameful that they're doing it now. Chris Christie is one of those guys who I think wants to establish control over the GOP as well. I think I think he's going to run. I think he sees himself as a national
level figure. I think he sees himself as a kind of anti Trump, and he also has a personal animus here because based on everything that has been both reported on this and that I've even heard from people in and around the White House. Chris Christie was going to be an important member of the Trump administration. But then Jared Kushner. Remember that it was Christie that prosecuted his dad.
And I'm gonna tell you, you know, even if my dad had had broken the law, fire in a position to feel like I was going to get even be very it would take a very ethical, very honorable person to say that they would let bygones be bygones and work closely with somebody who would put their father in prison. Right, a very ethical person. I you know, I'm very loyal to my family, so I can understand how that would
be an issue. But Chris Christie, clearly, Chris Christie clearly didn't forget about this, that Jared Kushner essentially pushed him out of the White House when Trump won, And so now he thinks that there's a vulnerability. Now there's this opportunity for a kind of payback, and I think that's what Chris Christie's angling for. But a couple of things I wanted to note here. One is that the whole
notion of proportionality in an election. We're supposed to be the honest and good people who will say, yes there were irregularities, Yes there were irregularities, but it wasn't enough
to overturn the election. So far, based on the evidence that we have that has been provided in court, that has been tested in court, which is very little, I know, because of all of the standing issues with the courts, but based on what has been presented in a court so far, that what Christie is saying is true and we need to understand that what he is saying it's true. However,
two things. One, the Democrats never did that with Russia collusion. Right, they pretended that, oh, one hundred thousand dollars of Facebook ads. I know people who are spending believe it or not, this is true, one hundred thousand dollars a month to push their podcast via Facebook. You know a lot of these people that have these big podcasts, huge money going into the advertising online of their podcast, so they can
have these high numbers even though they have them. You know, their audiences, it's mostly based on people clicking and listening for thirty seconds or a minute and then that's considered audience. I mean I've got people listen to this show. They listen to all three hours of the show. You know, if you listen on podcasts only, it's almost two hours. People listen the whole thing. So thank you for that.
But there's this whole game that's being played now. Because you get more advertisers, more downloads, you spend more money to push the podcast online anyway, But just to give you a sense of scale, one hundred thousand dollars on Facebook is nothing. That's nothing for a presidential election. As I've said all along, it would be like pouring a bucket. You'd be like pouring a cup of hot tea into the ocean and saying I've just affected the temperature of
the ocean. I mean, in a sense you could make that argument, but not really, not in a measurable way. But so we have to be honest and fair minded about that. They don't. And that's a very that's a very fundamental difference in the approach here. Right, We're going to move past this based on where the based on the evidence that we have that we could present in court.
Democrats never did that. So don't feel at all like you should be lectured by Democrats who have newly discovered principles when it comes to the rules of evidence and legal procedure and election integrity and security. Democrats don't want election integrity. They don't want it at every action. I'm
not just talking to this election. I'm saying in general, every action they take, whether it's voter ID purging the voter roles of people that don't live in the state anymore, every action they take is intended to allow a greater
number of illegitimate ballots. Because Democrats, with their you know, with their community organizers and activists and everything, believe that they will always that a more lax voting system will benefit them, that a greater number of the more the irregularities that exist, the better chance they are of the better chance they have of winning. That is the Democrat
viewpoint on this. And Chris Christie is very dismissive about this, is very quick to say, oh, you know Trump, Yeah, Trump went too far that I tell you that other people don't. And they're just trying to drive up their audience and drive up their numbers right now because they have, you know, they have no integrity. So they'll still say that, you know, Trump didn't you know he was true, and everything he said was right. It's not true. Trump went
too far. He said things that he could not prove, that he did not have the evidence for, and he might have cost us the Senate in Georgia as well with all these shenanigans. I think that's also a fair argument to make. It's just the truth, friends. It's the same way that we're now dealing with. Okay, what are Trump? What were the real accomplishments? Supreme Court? Yes, judges, yes, regulations, taxes, let's say goodbye to those. Those are gone already. Right,
So they were stylistic and rhetorical advantages. But we need to be very clear eyed. We need to be very honest about what has gone on here with the last election and what's going to go on to the next election. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. Join the conversation and message Buck on Facebook, Instagram, or email Team Bucket iHeartMedia dot com. He may read it on the show. What's going on inside the Beltway with all this political back and forth? We got our man in DC joining
us now, Harlan Hill. He is the principal at Logan Circle Logan Circle Group. He's a political consultant and somebody who knows what's going on in that town and how it to the rest of the country. Harl And great to have you back. What's what's the feel like these days? Uh, within within GOP circles about the continuation of a National Guard deployment to coincide with what's happening now with this
impeachment farce. Yeah, I mean I could tell you I just got back into Washington yesterday and there's still a presence on the streets here. I mean, it's really unprecedented. And the transfer of power which went off. You know, obviously we have that insurrection at the capital, the so called insurrection of the capital. But yeah, there's a bunch of Abuba's acting stupid and breaking the law. The response
to that since then has been draconian. You know, putting that the nation's capital under total military occupation is uh the wrong message to send, not just to Americans but to the world. Um, you know, we look like fools. Well tell us what what are some of the things you've had to deal with. I mean, there's there's like a zone own right, I mean, they and you have to present special documents to prove your residence. I mean,
for people that don't live in DC. This it's been really weird for folks like you, right, I mean, the new Schumer Pelosi Biden regime here is saying, you know, papers please. Absolutely, they've they've curved a little bit of that now, but for well over a week up until
just about a day ago. In order to access your your place of business or your home if it was in a side of what they called the green zone, borrowing that term from Baghdad, you know, which is that was the official term they used, by the way, to describe the security zone in downtown Washington, DC, you had to present either a copy of your lease with your name on it or your mortgage. If you had a car that was parked in a parking garage in downtown DC,
you were not able to get it out. You were stuck. There was no trash pick up, there was no mail deliver I mean, it's just crazy. This is the nation's capital. This is the nation's capital, and uh, you know it, it's a full bone military occupation. I mean if if if a Republican administration had done this, I cannot I cannot imagine the militarmatic outrage that would have transpired on on on CNN and MSNBC, right, we'd still be talking
about it. What do you make, Harlotte of the the the very consistent now uh talking point from Democrats and some Republicans out there. But you have people like um, you have people out there like uh, Chuck Schumer and even Mitt Romney saying that unity will be achieved through
this highly divisive process of impeaching a former president. Yeah, and and and now I'll add to that, you have sitting Republican US senators who are announcing that they are not sure how they're going to vote in an impeachment trial in the US Senate, but they know that they're not running for re election in twenty twenty two. This just came out of Ohio with Rob Portman, Republican senator from Ohio. He literally said that, he says, I'm not
sure how I'm gonna vote. I'm gonna see, I'm gonna see, I'm gonna wait to see how the cases presented, but i know that I'm not going to vote. I'm not going to stand for re election in twenty two. So that tells me everything I need to know. He's going to vote to impeach President Trump. So really the problem, this divisiveness and the lack of willing its to turn the page on this and to start healing as a nation and as a party, really originates within the Republican Party.
I mean, there wouldn't even be a credible discussion about whether the president could be the formal president could be convicted if it wasn't for Mitch McConnell, Meant Romney, all these other establishment Republicans standing up and saying that they're considering supporting it. Talking to Harland Hill, he's a principle at Logan Circle Group, a political consultancy advisory down in DC. Harlan, do you do you think they're going to have You know,
you're in contact with Hill folks. You know what's going on down there. Do you think they're gonna have the what is it, seventeen Republican votes they would need for conviction? You know, I don't think so. I know that. I mean, there's there's a considerable portion of the Republican caucus in the Senate that I think um would support it. Now, whether or not they end up coming out and supporting it in the end will entirely depend on whether they hit that number right. So, it's either going to be
a lot of people stay silent. Maybe a few people like Admit Romney take a take take a vote out of you know what they call their conscience. UM. But you know, I don't think we're going to see them come up, you know, four or five votes short. Either they're going to hit the number or they're going to be well short of it. Um And uh I from what I'm here, they don't have it right now. They
don't have it. And I think that that's why it's important that president former President Trump um stays away from this notion of creating a new party. That's a really hard thing to do. I mean, and let's talk about this. I mean, there's been some reporting about a about a positive thing that the Patriot Party a third party. Where does that stand? And what are we hearing about that? Yeah, I'm hearing that the former president Trump is back off
on that idea. I'm a pretty well placed actually the source on that the Trump has backed up on that idea, that he understands that he has to transform the party from within, and that he can do that by continuing to be a fundraising machine. UM. To build that a political apparatus that can support UM loyal candidates to primary Republicans that are not favorable to President Trump's agenda. UM and and apparently that is the strategy that they're going take.
Looking forward, and you saw today Sarah Hackby Sanders. Now since she's running for governor Knox, Arkansas. You know, so you're starting to see some loyalists that are credible, not some like fringe wackos. But Sarah could be. Sanders is a credible person, you know, she really is. She comes from a great political family, She's a nice person. She was an effective a soldier for for President Trump at the White House. Um and, uh, you know, she's the
first one. But from what I know, I can't go into it on air, but I know many other names that are sort of her same pedigree that are being slotted into races around the country. You think that members of the Trump family, there's all these stories about Ivanka against Rubio and Florida. What do you make of that? Yeah, I don't know, I don't know if that's gonna if that's gonna happen. You know, I'm sure that members of
the Trump family are going to run. Uh. You know, obviously it's been floated the idea of Laura Trump, Eric Trump's wife and a senior advisor on the campaign in twenty twenty UM that she would run for office in her home state of North Carolina. I think that's probable,
you know, I put my money on that. UM. Whether Ivanka decides to run against Rubio at this point, I think that that might be something that is that has floated in order to UM influence Rubio's loyalty, both of this impeachment process and through through some others UM, and so far, I think it's it's mostly worked. UM. You know, it's it's an effective tool that the threat of primary
being primary by Trump. I mean that that could be devastating, depending on what state and what race you're talking about. Then the national money that that machine can bring to their along with the the influence of UH for up President Trump, which I don't think has waned with the Republican primary electorate, it's huge. It's huge, you know. And now whether or not those candidates that the president supports will win general elections, you know, we'll have to see
how that plays out. But in terms of winning primaries, I think the Presence Coalition, if they execute this right they build the organization right, it'll be immense Harlan. What happens if they do, in fact convict the president, I mean, what happens within the GOP right we know me that Trump can't run again. Then what do you see as the fallout? Well, I think it's devastating. I mean, I think it's a complete civil war. I'm starting to see
it sort of play out a little bit privately. There's a lot of internal squabbling between people in the establishment, people in Magaworld, and then people in Magaworld and other people in Magwarred. There's a lot of infighting right now, Bob. You know, if they do convict the president, which will require a significant level of support from the Republican caucus in the Senate, you know, I fear that that will turn off an important segment of the electorate for Republicans
to such a degree that they might stay home. We already got a taste of that with Georgia. We gotta taste that this this idea that oh it's rigged. The Republican leadership in George is terrible. Just stay home, don't even vote. And you know what, I don't know that I don't know that it was you know, ten or fifteen percent the potential vote. But we do know that
that the turnout was wasn't what it was on election day. Um, and you know that that message may have resonated with some people and it may have impacted the results of that election, the runoff election in Georgia. So you know, we got to keep the coalition together, you know. And and and um, you know when we were talking, Democrats
are talking about unity, they don't mean it. But we can talk about unity with our within our party and we better mean it or you know, we're gonna spend a lot of time in the wilderness and we can't for it because we already see what the result of that is when Democrats control the House of Senate and the White House is devastating. Do you think that the geo we're speaking of, Harlan Hill, he is a principal
at Logan Circle, Logan Circle Group in DC. And I mean Harlan's involved in actual campaigns and understands that the machinery here of what goes on inside the Beltway that that affects, of course the rest of the country through
through these these elections. And and Harlan, do you think that the GOP, assuming for a second for our purposes of discussion, that there is no conviction of Trump by the Senate, have we has the GOP had the necessary discussions and learned the necessary lessons at this stage to begin that process of putting in place a winning strategy for twenty twenty two Or do you feel like the tough conversations within the family, so to speak, of the
GOP haven't really been had yet. I think they are happening right now where they're starting to happen, and I don't I don't mean to go back to it. I'm just gonna quickly reference it, the the the the y in the road, the fourth in the road. Here is what the party decides to do about this impeachment process, right that that that is what will put a wedge in in within our party to basically create a party divorce, a civil war. It will have to be resolved. Um and and it's and and a lot of egos are
going to be hurt in the process. A lot of people's brands are gonna be damaged in the process. It's gonna be in the liberal media will love it. They will love it. You know, it'll make twenty sixteen, the primary in twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen within the Republican Party look like a cake walk. Okay, so um, you know,
those conversations are starting to happen. But I think a lot of people buck are waiting to see how that turns out, because that will determine, you know, where the part, how much the party values the Trump wing of the Republican Party, and whether they're going to tell him to you know, shut up and get in line, um or you know, hey, we're we're all in the same te
run a fight for each other, um. And and that's what the Republican Party should do, you know, I mean, we are we are We have become a big tent party. I mean this party has fundamentally changed under under Trump, which is why I I long resisted the notion of creating a new party because you know, he already executed your hostile to take over it and introduced all these new ideas, grew the party, made it a more of a working class party. UM expanded its reach and support
within minority communities. But with the Presims, it was kind of amazing. It's kind of amazing. We love and or hate him. It was you know, it's a it's a's huge transformational um and you know, we have to see whether the whether the the the establishment ruling elites in Washington down there at the Republican National Committee UM are willing to cast that thirty five percent of the party aside or or or keep them in the fold. And for me, that's a no brainer. I know which way
they should go. Harlan Hill follow him on social media. He is a principal at the Logan Circle. Logan Circle Group. Harlan, my friend, keep the GOP from imploding in the meantime. Okay, do your best. I'm trying. Thanks one man, talk to you soon. You're listening to the Fuck Sexton Show podcast, make sure you subscribe to the podcast on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. Was their election fraud that still needs to be looked at, that needs
to be presented in court. You know, this is the big question that still remains out there. As much as Democrats say there is no question, as much as we had Chris Christie before saying there was no question. I want to play for you. This is a pretty lengthy exchange here, but you need to hear it. And it's between one of my favorite senators. And he's not a warm and fuzzy guy, but I think he's a principled
guy and a smart guy. You know. Not great at retail politics, not great at kissing babies and shaking hands, but he's smart. And I think he believes in in in the constant two individual liberty, and that's rand Paul. You know, I've always I've always thought Rampaul was was solid. Here he is going toe to toe with pundit aka journalist George Stephanopolis on the election fraud question. I want to play this for you so you can really hear
this exchange. Go for it. But at the same time, I'm not willing just to sit here and say, oh, everybody in the Republican side is a liar and there is no fraud. No, there were lots of problems, and there were secretaries of the state who illegally change the law, and that needs to be fixed, and I'm gonna work hard to fix it. And I won't be cowed by people saying, oh, you're a liar. That's the problem with the media today, as they say all Republicans are liars,
and everything we say is a lie. There are two sides to every story. Interview somebody on the other side, but don't insert yourself into the story to say we're all liars, because they are not. They are not two. There are not two sides of the story. This has been looked at in every single state. Yees are to fight every sides to every story. George, you're forgetting who you are. You're forgetting who you are as a journalist.
If you think there's only one side, you're inserting yourself into the story to say I'm a liar because I want to look at election fraud and I want to look at secretaries of state who illegally change the voter laws without the permission of their state legislatures. That is incontrovertible. It happened, and you can't just sweep that under the rug and say, oh, nothing to see here, and everybody's a liar and you're a fool. If you bring this up,
you're inserting yourself into the story. A journalist would hear both sides, and there are two sides of this. I'm standing by facts. There are not two sides to facts. I did not say that this was a perfect election. I said it was the results were certified. I said it was not stolen. Are liars? You're saying people are liars if they want to investigate what happened in the election. Should what I said? In fact, the tens of thousands of absentee ballots did not have addresses on them and
normally were disqualified, but this time they were counted. Should we examine that. I don't know whether it affected the election or not, but I have an open mind. And if we actually examined this we found out it didn't, that's fine, but it still should be fixed. Still should be fixed. Democrats want to just that they want this thing sign sealed, delivered, no discussion, no discussion. It's how they wanted to be. Can't talk about it anymore, said
a Rampaul. Very smart guy, and he's saying, oh, hold on a second, this is these are part of the allegations of the questions were about things that are real. You know, they did in the state of Pennsylvania. They did decide to just change the way the election was being run in a way that certainly seems unconstitutional. They did make that decision. Do we ever, do we ever get to have a full hearing on that? Do we ever get to have that discussion. Ram Paul says, yes,
I say Rampaul's right. This is the Fuck Sexton Show Podcast. Follow Fuck on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter. Got back from a weekend in Florida, WIOD, w FLA. So many of our wonderful stations down there in Florida. Um, and you know, producer Mark and I talk a lot now about how maybe the Freedom Hunt needs to head south, not just
for the winter, but permanently we're down there. I was down there in Florida, and yet again I have a situation here where I just I want someone to explain to me what the benefit is, How anyone can make the argument right now that there are that there, there has been better governance, and we've handled things better here than we did than they are in Florida. But when I say here, I'm in New York. Look at New York, look at California, look at Florida. What is the upside
of the extreme lockdown approach? Now, let me just say there are some very dumb rules at the local level in Florida. I mean I was in Miami and I yes, I was at the beach and I had to go at one point and go up to the one of they have these these huts on the beach where you get towels. And I said, all right, So I go up to the hut, to the towel, not the freedom hut, of course, and the woman there, and I'm about ten
feet away from her at least. I'm just saying, hey, can I get myself because their towels are out in a bind. I'm like, hey, can I get a towel? And she says, sir, can you put a mask on? Please? And I'm looking at her. I'm like, we're outside. We're both outside. There's nothing indoor here. She's in an open
air hut. I'm I'm in the open air. Everyone walking around doesn't have a mask on, okay, But to talk to her from ten feet away, I'm supposed to put a mask on because my non existent COVID virus is going to fly out of my mouth like a heat seeking missile and go right into hers in open air from ten feet away. Now, I don't blame this woman for saying, sir, can you put on a mask? But I blame the stupidity of the people who are instituting these rules, even in Florida, because they think this is
what the smart people do. They're so convinced, so dug in that this is the right way to go, and it's just not. It's just not. And then you look at what's happening in California. Actually, I'm not done with Florida. I'm not done with Florida. Before I go to California, I'm what Governor Newsom's doing there. In Florida. They have businesses open, they have stores open, people are living life.
And it's increasingly hard, I think, to make a serious case as to why anybody would want to stay in one of these insane blue states when they could be in a mostly open, red state. And I do think it's one of the disconnects that I've had as a New Yorker talking to people across the country. And you know, there are other shows Sean Hannity show, he's a New Yorker,
his shows out of New York. You know, there are a lot a lot of people that do shows out of blue states that are broadcast all across the rest of the country. But as somebody who's who's in that position, I know that my experience with lockdown has been far more onerous than a lot of you listening in redder states across the country, So that's certainly affected my judgment. So while it's annoying to you, and certainly the federal policies affect you, you haven't been put through quite the
same lunacy. Although Texas has not been great in how it is. I'm just gonna say, at Texas, and you know our KOBJ Austin Fam and our KPRC Houston Fam. I mean, you guys have been through a pretty tough situation with your governor and with the way that your state authorities have handled this situation. Florida has been better, has been better at dealing with this, and I think there are a lot of people. I think there are a lot of people who were currently seeing fleeing these
these big blue states to places like Florida. I think you're going to see a lot more of it. What's the upside? And continue to be in a place where you see that those in charge, they will bow to the dictates of political correctness and to the left at the expense of millions of businesses and millions of people's
lives and livelihoods. For what Then that brings me to California and I think this is I think this is a fascinating situation right now because in the great state of California, you have something very interesting happening right now. Gavin Newsom is letting restaurants open for indoor dining again. Now, why are they doing? Those cases are still very, very high. We have not flattened the curve. The policies they've had
in place have not had the intended effect. The mandates, the lockdowns have not worked the way we were told they would. That's just a fact. They can try to argue this, but it's ridiculous. We can all see it, all right. The numbers speak for themselves. But here we go. As of January twenty fourth, California has three million, one hundred and nine, one hundred and fifty one confirmed cases of COVID nineteen volting in thirty six thousand, seven hundred
ninety deaths. The number of COVID related deaths increased by one point two percent from the prior day total of thirty six thousand, three hundred and sixty one. So you've got three point one million cases, twenty four thousand new cases, thirty six thousand, seven hundred ninety deaths, four hundred plus a day in California, and they're running over three hundred thousand tests a day in California. Why right now, why right now is Gavin Newsom about to lift these stay
at home orders and allow indoor dining to reopen? Why is that occurring? Why is that happening? And the answer is, well, a number of factors. On the one hand, you have, I think the recognition among a lot of people out there that this idea that we could just lock down through the whole wind and do these extreme stay at home orders and stuff, even while the public sees that it doesn't stop the virus, which it has not done. It has not stopped the virus. That is a that
is an obvious fact. So to put people through all this suffering and misery for an entire winter period when they're not seeing the actual benefits of the misery, that is a problem. That is a political liability. After a while, so they've started to see that you do have to
make adult decisions about this. You do have to rationally look at what is gained and what is lost through the process here of you know, what is gained and what is lost through the process of deciding that if it just if it might save not even if it saves if it might save one life, whatever economic and societal cost we have to bear is acceptable. That that was under the Trump administration, the approach that California and other big loose states were taken, right, that's something that
we have to remember. Now all of a sudden that seems to be changing. As I said, there's the political liability of keeping people locked in their homes, of preventing people from being able to live their lives. And they're not seeing because the numbers are obvious, the benefits that were promised. That's one part of it. And then on another side of it, what about the reopening of America
as it is a political benefit to Joe Biden? How does that factor into all of this getting things going again so that Joe Biden can be the big hero here. You've already seen this with the vaccination program and how Biden's whole one hundred million vaccinations in one hundred days. Yeah, we're doing about a million a day right now. So Biden's great contribution really to the vaccine program so far has been largely in terms of numbers, the perpetuation of
the status quo. But for Joe Biden. If you perpetuate the status quo, you're a hero because they're all just going to clap for him and say how Grady is no matter what. But sure enough, California is thinking about reopening. New York under Governor Cuomo recently had had an open discussion, you know, began to muse publicly about how reopening could happen and how we can't wait until the virus has totally gone. I've been saying this all along. This has
been my position that we can't just shut down. We can't just take this to take this as a given that by having these extreme lockdown orders and shutdowns, we're making the right decision. There's a lot of back and forth over there. There's a lot of reason to believe that we're not getting the benefits were told. The data does not support it, and so what we just have is a lot of misery. What we just have is
compounding the problem. But because of the political benefits of the Biden administration being able to take credit for the reopen, now all of a sudden, you see it's politicized in the other direction for the first time. Now it starts
to be they still want the control. It's at their say so, and they still want you to maybe double mask now, and they want you all these other stupid things, but they're at least thinking about in some areas letting it up, letting people have more of their lives back, and then the Biden administration can take credit, and maybe then people will forget that it has been a Democrat mentality, a Democrat demand that we have extreme, extreme lockdowns in place.
This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. Join the conversation and message Buck on Facebook, Instagram, or email Team bucket iHeartMedia dot com. He may read it on the show. First of all, it made me so angry to see all of these different images coming from National Guard soldiers really posting the reality of the situation that they were in, being shoved into the parking garage that's freezing cold, all strewn about, lying on the ground, really being discarded as
though they don't even matter. Meanwhile, as you said, our troops, National Guard soldiers, some of whom I've served with, you know, two hundred came from Hawaii, went to Washington, DC, answered that call to serve like everybody else, only to be
mistreated in this way. No to answer your question, the militarization of our nation's capital was not only unnecessary, Yes, we need to make sure that this transition of power happens peacefully and safely, but to send that message both to the American people and to the world that somehow our nation's capital is under attack and threat of a siege of taking over, I just don't think that's the message that we want to send to the American people
and to the world, especially as we conduct this peaceful transition of power. Send it all along on the problem that Tulsi Gabbert has as a Democrat is that she's not vicious and hateful and nasty enough to be a Democrats. She's very left wing and her policies, but she doesn't hate Republicans and she loves the military. And if you don't hate Republicans and you actually love the military, you add those two things together. Very hard to be a
Democrat in good standing with the left wing apparatus. Very hard, basically impossible. This is why they come after Tulsie say, oh, she's an Assad apologist, all this stuff. And remember on policy, she's very left wing. I know that, but she doesn't hate her opponents. And that's not really allowed these days.
You have to hate, you have to hate your opponents, and then you also if they're Republicans that you also have her pointing out that the the whole positioning here of this thing with the National Guard where they're sleeping on the floor in the Capitol, or the photos of it, this was all orchestrated by Democrats because they really live in this constant state of hysteria and they want they
want people to live in a state of hysteria. I mean that the Democrat view of the world is that there should be a domestic counter terrorism fight against Trump's supporters because they're such a threat, because the white nationalists are going to storm the White House at any moment and take it over and all this other stuff. They say,
that's just not true. But if you can create a world, if you can create an environment where enough people believe that, well there's a lot of political advantage in it, you see, because why do you have to treat your opponents with decency and kindness and respect. Why would you do any of that if, in fact you didn't think that they were people worthy of those things, because they're a party
of neo Nazis, white nationalists all these things. I mean that the big lies they're telling here about the right, about conservatives, about the Republican Party, the lies they tell, the exaggerations they rely on, are useful to them. Do not, do not, do not. Forget that. And you are gonna be bombarded with lies from the press for the next four years because they're gonna say whatever they have to say to back up this Biden administration. That's never gonna change.
What's funny about this, of course, you've got Smarmye Smurf. You guys, remember if you listen to the show years ago and we had Smarmie Smurf, Jay Carty. Hey have Jay Carty Sparbie Spurf. He sounds a little bit like Brian Stelter, But we don't need to we don't need to compare bucks impersonations of the two. Stelter's a little bit dad here, s Barbie Smurf is more up here. But you had Jake Carty saying, how how bide this Biden administration? It's gonna be all about the honesty, all
about the integrity play it. The administration telegraph very early, Uh, this is how they were going to be honest and truthful instead of spinning about it's you know, today Joe Biden's president, tomorrow COVID's you know, the beginning of the end is near. They've been very clear that it's going to get worse before it gets better. And I think you begin to make deposits in the integrity bank when you when you're honest with the press and therefore the people and I and I was glad to see that,
and I know we're going to see more of it. Yeah, it's just going to be all all truthy stuff from Joe Biden. Sure, a lot of truth stuff coming out from the Biden administration. You're also seeing that Jensaki is good at this job. Why exactly how is she a particularly effective communicator? Um, that's that's what I would That's what I would say. How is she an effective communicator?
I would ask that question. And how is the Biden administration going to handle the continued influence of the left during all of this, I mean the real left, the socialist left. Remember that the socialist left that it still has big designs what they want to do for the country. Well, here's what Bernie Sanders is saying about how the agenda is in fact, very much. It's still alive for Democrats on the socialists left, and they've even got a plan
for how they're going to do some of this. Play eight. Well, the devil is in the details about what we want to do and when we want to do it, and when we have to do it. What we are talking about, by the way, are two separate reconciliation packages. Number one,
the emergency one right now, right get direct checks. Get those checks into people's pockets right now so they can feed their families and make sure that people are not evicted from their own to make sure that states have the funds they need to get vaccines into people's lives. That's what we've got to do right now. And then as soon as that is done, we have to rebuild this economy. Unemployment is much much too high, wages are much much too low. There are structural problems that we
have had, we have ignored for years. Climate change is a really you're okay doing all of that through this process that you criticize for Republicans for using. These are major policy changes. These are major policy changes. But the devil is in the details, and I criticize Republicans, yeah, for using reconciliation to give tax breaks to billionaires to create a situation with large profitable corporations now pay zero in federal income taxes. Yes, I did criticize them for that.
And if they want to criticize me for helping to feed children who are hungry, was seeing the citizens in this country are isolated and alone and don't have enough food, they can criticize me. I think it's the appropriate step forward. Whatever I need to do, I'm going to do. They could criticize me for trying to feed children. Go ahead, you know, yeah, that's right, Bernie. The only problem we have we just don't want socialist Bernie feeding the children.
What do I always tell you, what's one of bucks rules or politicians. Never trust a politician when they say it's for your safety or it's for the children, don't trust them. It's a rule one you should not, one you should not. Let's slip out of your mind easily. It's an important rule anytime they say it's for your safety or it's for your children, for the children, not even your children, because you know more about your children than they do for the children in general, the collective.
But Bernie, Bernie's gonna see openings here and more radical socialist policy is gonna happen through this bid administration. They're just gonna come up with ways to call it different things. They're they're gonna have, you know, preferred socialist nomenclature shifting right. They're gonna say it's something else. This is a oh, we're not redistributing wealth, we're just making adjustments against the
super rich or something. They're gonna come up with ways to make it sound like they're not doing what they're doing. Get ready for it. You can guarant I can guarantee you this is gonna happen. You're listening to the Fuck Sexton Show podcast. Make sure you subscribe to the podcast on the iHeart Radio app or wherever you get your podcasts. Team Buck, it's time for roll Call. I feel like our role call. Spruce and Mark have more of a
almost like a zoot suit riot kind of feel. You remember the unity that was probably before your time, but I get what you mean. There's definitely a different feeling. Yeah, you know, but there was that period where where swing dance kind of came back into into focus and people were all excited about that. So, yeah, that's something that I'm hearing a little bit of of our tunes. Why don't you tell everybody before we hear it, before we dive into the roll call? How is the producer Mark Weekend?
How is the football watching? It was very good, two very good conference championship teams. I think we'll have a fine super Bowl. Who is in the Super Bowl? You don't have a clue, do you? Nope, it's the Buccaneers and the Chiefs. So the legendary old quarterback and the legendary new quarterback facing I actually might watch the Super Bowl. Then. That sounds like an interesting story. Tom Brady the greatest quarterback of his generation? Is there really any argument about
that at this point? No, he's the greatest quarterback of all time. I think we can safely say that at this point. Wow, number one all time. Before him, it would have probably been what Joe Montana? Yeah, probably Montana, And the argument can still be made, But I mean this would be I think his seventh super Bowl. He's made forty percent of Super bowls since he entered the league. That's a pretty astounding stat Yeah. How good were the Bucks before they got Brady? I mean they had a
decent surrounding team. They just didn't have a quarterback. He's the difference. So the piece here to like Tom Brady was clearly it's not like he came onto a you know, a super team. See. I hate when they do that in basketball. I do know enough about basketball that you know Lebron going to the Lakers. It's like, no, you know, it's cool when you stay at the Cleveland Cavaliers and you build a dynasty and a franchise and you're you
know what I mean. I don't in the end, BA, they people love the top players, love to join other top players to create these super teams. I just don't think that's as interesting. Yeah, I don't. That's one of my groups with the NBA has always been as there's like five teams that could win the championship and nobody cares about the rest of them. Yeah. Yeah, So anyway, so it was a good game though. That's good. Yeah, there were two good games. I enjoyed my weekend. How
was Florida, Oh, producer Mark I got sun. I had fun. I was walking around in flip flops. It was very nice. It sounds lovely. Florida is a very nice place. I gotta say it's a thing we should consider setting up, setting up for you know, big time. Yeah, I think I think that's I think that's the new that's where the that's where the conservative movement that's leaving the Blue States is also gonna do. People are just gonna pile into it because you got great weather, no state income tax,
great gun laws. I mean, not quite as good as maybe a last gun a few other but really so, but really pretty solid solid gun laws. Easy you get a concealed carry permit. Uh, you know, there's a lot
of upside. I would love us too. I would love conservatives that to take over what's essentially a major city there, you know, whether it's Tampa or Jacksonville, and make it make it a kind of red state mecca, you know, make it a gathering point for the for people that that view the world away that that conservatives do, and show what that would mean for an actual city, because we have no cities on no cities on the right right now. It's just not not a good scene anyway. Yeah,
Florida was great. Food was great. Are you a Cevich guy? Is that rough fish? Yeah? No, I'm not a rough fish guy. Didn't think so. I had such good Cevich. I'm the guy who goes to a sushi place and only orders the cooked rolls. Yeah, yep, yep, yep. Man. Now the food and florid food and Florida was great, people were great. Nothing but nothing but upside down there with the snow princess. So I got, I got umbrella drinks, bikini's warm weather freedom. It was amazing. What kind of
bikini were you wearing? Well, wouldn't you like to know? All right? Tj um, I'm actually I'm a what do you call it? Um? I? One day I'll have to rock the speedo. You know that, you know those things. That's a terrible mental image. I see a few, a few guys on the beach still do it. It's occasional, but you will see it. You know. They're also half your age. Yeah, also true, but bold. It's a bold move. It is a bold move to go with the speedo. Hey, if I had the body to rock one, I would,
But I don't, so I wouldn't. I'm more of a I'm more of a like I wish I could wear, you know, oversized boxers to go swimming in. You know what I mean? That would be nice something to basically what stim swim trunks are. Yeah, I guess pretty much. Yeah. I never liked the mesh lining. I'm always I'm not. I don't like the mesh lining, but you know I get it, all right, t J. Kicking us off here, getting us from talking about am I allowed to say
banana hammock on the radio? You just did? And yes, listen, those are two appropriate words. I believe I can say that. That's an I believe that is a slang term for a speedo or that form of bathing suit. Oh no, that is an extreme banana hammock is a lot different.
Is it? Just google it? I can't explain. There's a character from the TV show Scrubs on forgetting his name off the top of my head, but he only wore banana hammocks is like a running gag and eventually ABC made him stop doing it because it was so much a decent exposure. So it's like, actually a form of it's a real thing. No, it's a real thing, but it is a it is not something for the prude
kind of person. I learned something new every day on this show, all right, t J. Block Conservatives ought to implement a strategy of Catholic guilt for the next four years. I don't know about you, but nothing gets at me worse than when something I believe in or think to be true contradicts the Catholic faith. The media has no problem put in Joe's Catholic faith front and center when it suits them. We should return the favor and keep
it front front and center. Every policy decision, every bill he signs ought to be looked at through the prism of a Catholic faith and whether or not it aligns with the faith. I don't believe we should have a theocratic ruler, but the left has no problem telling us how good of a Catholic Joe is, so we can respond in kind. However, I think this is why devout Catholics don't make for good politicians, but excellent judges. Not saying Joe's at about Catholic, but considering he's getting up
there in age. I imagine the Catholic guilt weighs heavily on his soul at times, and we ought to remind him of it. TJ. Sounds like you think the dogma may live meekly within Joe Biden, not loudly, and that is certainly the case. Look, American Catholics, of which I
would have to I would call myself one. I am a Catholic, and Catholics are a strange group politically speaking, because so many of them really believe that they're living their Catholic faith and that they support Catholic causes, and then they go vote for Democrats who are very obviously contrary to not not minor, but to core Catholic beliefs. So that's that's something that I you know, they have other reasons for doing it, but I do think it's
interesting as that continues to play out. And yeah, I mean Catholic Gilford. But the thing is it's not going to work on Biden TJ. That's the problem. Biden doesn't care. Biden cares about power. Biden cares about what works and how he wins, and everything else is just just noise, just a distraction. Dave. Next up, Beer, Hey Buck. I have a customer in Fredericksburg that runs a retired greyhound program. They don't like to call them rescues, they prefer retired.
The first time I was at their home, they had about ten of them in their living room on bean bags. One of the craziest things I've ever seen. Apparently there's a retired greyhound community that basically babysit them for each other because they prefer to be around other greyhounds, and they have been competing against each other. They had a fenced in backyard. When she opened the back door, they all ran out and started a race around the backyard.
It was awesome. Just like horses, they're athletes and they definitely understand competition and naturally want to win. Anyway, I thought you'd enjoy that. Dogs are the best, love the show, keep up the grind, you're a pro. Well, Dave, thanks so much, and yeah, that's that's cool. I didn't know that's what they call them, retired retired greyhound. I just
just something. I just see. There's a future in my head where Producer Mark is like chomping on a coheba with a what do you call those those hats, a fedora with a coheba and one of those sort of havana shirts on at the race track with a big fruity drink in his hand, living the floor to life. You know, Producer Mark, I see that for you down the line. I mean I could see all of that, but without the greyhound track. Why why I could have
a pool in my backyard. Yeah, but you know you want to you want to bet on the ponies, bet on the bet on the doggies. No, no, I would adopt one, not bating race. There we see Mark Mark Why Mark doesn't want to play bets and he wants to help retire one of them. Exactly. Greyhounds are sweet dogs too. They're really really they're they're they're amazing creatures. It just it shows you. Yeah, they're well, you know, they make many ones too, make like it don't come
out of a factory. They they they breed and raise very small greyhounds as well. But the full size racing greyhounds are You're right, they're large. They're large. They're not heavy, but they're big. Yeah, they're lanky, they're like tall and lanky. Yeah. Well there's I said, there's one that lives on my floor. Beautiful dog, beautiful dog in a total sweetheart and yeah,
look I love dogs. I'll say one thing about being in Florida was that I missed my parents dog to Lula the Frenchiet because I didn't have her anymore, because I gave them back while I was gone. But My two brothers both have dogs. My brother Mason has a Pomeranian that's a rescue. The Pomeranian he was old, was found in an alleyway in Austin, Texas. So he's a he's a Texas dog and he's a Pomeranian. And my other brother just got from Salt Lake City, Utah. What's up,
knrs salt Lake City From Salt Lake City, Utah. My brother just picked up a member of his family. My brother Keats, like the poet, not Keith. Everyone always gets it confused. My brother Keats got a a multi poo, which is a multi smix with a miniature poodle, and her name is Lila And I got to play with both of them down in Florida a lot. And Lilah is two months old and absolutely adorable, absolutely amazing. And
producer Mark, you're like this. So I'm out to dinner with my brothers and my brother's fiance and you know, my brother's girlfriend, and I'm sitting there and it's me the snow Princess, and we're hanging out and my brothers. My little brother's fiance says, watch this, and she pulls up her phone. They have like a doggye cam up where she can speak to the dog, and the dog record nises her voice, so she says, you know, hey,
Lilah and the dog. He gets all excited for a second, and then she fires off with a button a treat that comes out of like a little treat dispenser for the puppy once she's gone. Yeah, I've seen those. One of the best inventions ever. It's amazing. Yeah, it's amazing. You know, it's like firing off treats, you know, so the dog feels like it's got a little more interaction and you don't have to worry about it the same way.
So yeah, I'm just saying I think it's cool. All right, back into a back into the mix here, Nathan, Hey Buck love the show, Nathan, the show loves you. Are we sure we want term limits for the right reasons. We all want the career politicians out, but what about ours? Or we want their career politicians out, but what about ours? That means no more Ted Cruise, no more Mitch McConnell. We'd basically be saying you're getting fired no matter what
you do, do whatever you want. We wouldn't have anyone's any more voting records to look at and keep the ones we like and the votes out. Wait, sorry, we would to look at and keep the one we like and vote out the ones we don't. You're an inspiration of wartime conservatism. Shield side well, Nathan, I try man. I'm doing my absolute best here, and thank you so
much for the kind words. And as for as for career politicians, you know, I think I think if we could have you know, three or four terms of Ted Cruz, I think that's enough. Even for Ted Cruz, I think we you know, three three terms of Mitch McConnell. I think twenty years, you're good. That's a whole career. Right, Some people work twenty years in retire, although not these days anymore. Um. Maybe if you're in a really really strong union, right, producer Mark, if you're in a really
good union, maybe you're twenty and done. Yeah that's about it. Yeah, really well in the stock market maybe bitcoin you're not done after twenty But at twenty years is basically a career. So I think that, you know, the same way you have age limits which are kind of arbitrary for hire all. I know they're in the constitution, but they were arbitrary choices made when they're put in the Constitution. Also at a time when human life expectancy was much lower than
it is right now. Overall, I think you could also have you could also have put in place term limits that would allow people to have a long and productive career in politics, but not have a lifetime in politics. I mean, Joe Biden has been in politics too long. And that's just the Mottom line. We could talk about this stuff as much as want. He's been in politics too long. It's time for fresh blood. It's time for younger, younger people who have a different approach. And that's true
a lot. It's true, Nancy Pelosi. Maybe it's true. Mitch McConnell. You know, I mean, see this, and you know to term limits, there's a lot of arbitrary in this because if you look at term limits, well what about terms in the first place. Why is a congressional term too, but a Senate term six? I know it's in the Constitution, but I'm saying those were just decisions made by the founder that are by their very nature. It's like the
borders between US states. There's an arbitrary they just sort of have to draw a line, so they draw a line. So I don't think it's that strange for us to push term limits. I think we could do it in a way that would be really productive. But I'm also a realist, and I know that the people who would have to vote for term limits are the people who don't want them because they want to stay in office as long as they want to stay in office. This
is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. Follow Buck on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter. All right, more roll called here? Jim next up? Hey, Buck and Mark. Just wondering what happens to hard working Americans like me when the minimum wage is fifteen dollars an hour. I'm a medical laboratory scientist, which is a job that has a lot of schooling and license requirements, and I make twenty eight dollars an hour. When the minimum wage goes to fifteen dollars an hour and everything
gets more expensive, what happens to people like me? I know we aren't going to get a raise to equalize the wage and cost of living. Shield high fellow patriots. Yeah, well, Jim, that's the problem is all the unintended consequences. I understand the emotional appeal, and I agree with the sentiment that people who show up and you a job that you know, a job that adds value, should be paid well. I
want workers paid well. I like people to be taken care of by their employer, by their their business, whatever it may be. But I know that there are limits. Right. As much as it would be fun to say everyone makes one hundred dollars an hour, you'd bankrupt the vast majority of businesses all across the country. I mean probably almost all of them. So you can't have that. So what is really going on here? What happens when you raise the minimum wage? There are those unintended consequences. You
see that there's a cutback in hours for people. You see they'll be jobs lost, and yes, there'll be more expensive products. You know that fifteen dollar minimum wage in national restaurant chains, for example, would mean that you're you're a happy meal. How much is a happy meal right now, Producer Mark, I can never eat this stuff because of my celiac disease. How much is a happy meal? Roughly? I guess around five bucks, around five bush, yeah, five
six bucks. Your happy meal is going to be eight, nine, ten dollars. That's what's gonna happen with a fifteen dollars if you're going to keep the same number of employees, that's just supplying demand. Basic economics. So what was the last time you had a happy meal? I don't know, probably when I was nine. Oh wow long oh yeah, the happy meals for the kids, right, I'm just thinking, yeah, I was, maybebe I should have asked you, like about like a number three or like a whopper with whatever.
I don't know. I don't know. Those are probably like eight nine bucks. Yeah, okay, so whatever, So maybe those are eight or nine bucks, so the point being they'd be more like twelve now. But yeah, I can't. Fast food is very very tough for me because even the French fries they use a glutinous a glutinous oil, So I can't even have the French fries, which is sad
for me, but it is what it is. Pen writes, I can't stop laughing at your Jen Saki impression, except for the fact that it sounds like Jack Black as much as it does Jensaki. Great show, great job, love your show. Pen, Thanks so much, man. We'd like to really appreciate that, like, thank you, Pan, Jen Saki, sans you like a total high five and you're the best that's gonna be for today, folks. She'll time
