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supposed to happen. This should not have happened. And I continue to look at this and just the the frustration, the anger because I know what people were doing in DC today. I know why there were tens or perhaps hundreds of thous thousands of patriots gathered in DC. They

believe that they had a stolen election. They believe that the Democrat Party continues to have two sets of rules in the way the media treats us, in the way the laws are applied, and in the cancel culture and the authoritarian elements of wokeness and now taking over corporate America. It's in the corporate boardroom, it's in your kids classrooms, it's all over the place, and they've had enough and

they feel helpless. But the people who are out there, the people who have decided to take it upon themselves for whatever reason, to go after in this way, to go after the Capitol building and to breach its defenses and to attack law enforcement officers. They're wrong. What they're doing only hurts the movement. What they're doing only makes things worse for everyone. And the President has said that they should disperse himself and that they should be peaceful,

but they weren't entirely peaceful. Now this is hijacking the very understandable the frustrations of so many others. I mean, if we're let's say there were and I don't know the number, No one really knows the exact number. Let's say there were one hundred thousand people who gathered in DC today and I'm just guessing. Don't take me whatever the number may be. Perhaps there were five hundred or a thousand who stormed Capitol Hill. And yet, now, what is going to be the storyline of this day of

certification of the twenty twenty vote. What are we going to hear? What will the Democrat controlled media say about the entire movement, not just those who crossed the red line, who transgressed here, understand this, It's going to be largely viewed through just the political lens I'm talking to you about. They're not going to say, oh, there were people that

were down there who were peaceful. I can see them on TV in real time right now, people who are being peaceful, who are down there and doing exactly what we would expect our fellow Americans to do, which is raise their voices, hold up their placards, but do so with respect for the law and with respect for the system. Because as conservatives, as people on the right, we have to remain in the right, and that means respecting the rule of law. That means being people who can be

counted on. You know, it was really disappointing to see law enforcement attack today by conservatives and then even seeing some others on social media at least who were saying, well, you know, the cops shouldn't have been in the way, or well, the no, that's disgraceful. Do we back the blue or not. Do we believe in law and order or not? We have principles. Whether the other side does

or not, it doesn't change for us. And the only person, the only people, I should say, who can give up the principles that we hold is us and we're not going to do that. We haven't done that. But we all need to speak with one voice about this because this should never have happened, not in America, not on my watch, not on yours. The election has so many questions around it still, and we have a hearing going

on today. We have members of Congress raising those concerns, speaking about what they believe are unanswered questions about allegations of fraud. And this was all within the process. I've been all for it since the election. Let's investigate every allegation of fraud out there, Let's look at this. Let's make sure we compile the data, that we have the information,

and that we bring it forward to court. Now I understand there's this impulse and you're seeing this now from many on the right to say, well, they do these bad things, so now we somehow don't have to call it out when it's among those who are ostensibly our own. And I'm not even dealing yet with I know there are allegations out there as well of agents, agents provocateur, that there are people who are false flags in this crowd.

We don't know that. I can't tell you that because I can't prove it, and it doesn't look like it from what I've seen so far. But I'll tell you this, if it were just false flags, why are so many people online saying that they in some way support this or in some way justify this. There's no justification for this. All this does is hurt our side. All this does is make everything more or difficult, every political battle that

we fight, all of it. And that's I think the ultimate irony and tragedy of the situation is that we have so many who think that what they're doing here, and when I say so many hundreds, perhaps thousands in DC, whatever it may be, they think that this is helping, when in fact they have done more damage. And this is why I believe there's so many people whose mind

immediately goes to false flag. I'm not saying they're wrong, I'm just saying no proof of that yet, but so many people's minds go to false flag operation with this because they understand and totally right away. This is disastrous for MAGA, This is disastrous for a political future, for Trump, for Trump supporters. Now, it's not the end. I'm not sitting here saying the sky is falling down and that

America is coming apart. We will get through this, but we need to be honest and clear eyed about exactly what has gone on here. This is where we draw the line. This is where we hold the line. We say no to this kind of behavior because we have to be better than the other side. I know about

please BLM. I when there were Trump people, I'm just gonna tell you this, when there were Trump people in June, including some of his top advisors, some of them not such great advisors, kind of tell you some of his top advisors saying that we should we should make concessions to BLM, and that we should have police reform Republicans, not just Trump advisors, Republicans and elected office. We should

reform the police. Maybe we should rename some towns and cities, or some military bases, or whatever the case may be. Let's just let's try to buy off the BLM movement with some of these gestures. And I was saying, no, you don't give in to a movement that uses violence, intimidation, instruction, and lawlessness to get its way. You don't do that.

And now we see that that was clearly only going to encourage the BLM movement and the media excuse them, and the Democrat Party embraced it, and they pandered and it was disgraceful. I mean, it was a summer of disgrace. Yet somehow, and I know a lot of you think it's because they cheated. I know you believe that, and I think there was cheating too. I just need the proof so that we can actually win in the system.

If we abandon the system. I'm gonna tell you this right now, if we go full o Lynsky and try to overturn everything and nothing counts anymore, if we go with some kind of a populous right wing nihilism. You know who's really good at breaking principles, violating laws, intimidating people and getting their way through force, the left. And you know what our shield is against that that we adhere to the rule of law, and that we are better than that, and we have been and we will

continue to be. Today is a massive, massive blunder on the part of those who did this, and we need to say that. And I'm just I'm here, I'm sharing my honest frustrations with you because I'm trying to think and I've been talking about this in recent days, about how we mount something similar to the Tea Party, where we mobilize, we organize. We are resisting the encroachments on liberty. We are resisting the unconstitutional actions. But we're doing so in ways that we're all proud of. And I it's

so unfair, isn't it. You know? I describe the people storming the capital as being selfish, because you know what they've done. They've created an opening for everyone else. The tens of thousands of my fellow patriots and Americans and many many people I know in DC. I have personal friends at the rally, not storming the Capitol, but at the rally today. Some of them will call in today over the course of the show and tell us what

they saw. But what they stood for and what they were hoping for has been hijacked by this group of what do we even call them? What do they think they're accomplishing here? They really believe that this is going to overturn the result. They're posting photos and video on social media. You can see this. God, it would be great if we found out that these were actually, you know, Antifa activists or something posing as Trump supporters. But it's quite an operation if they pull that one off, and

we have no proof of it yet. We need proof we are. Unlike the left, we also rely on things like evidence to make our claims. We don't just say things we don't have whisper campaigns and then weaponize the DOJ like they did against Trump, use the deep state and the classified back room. Oh, I can't tell you about that. You're not cleared for it part as an ambush. That's what the Hillary supporting deep staters did. No, we

do it all out in the open. We tell people what we want, who we are, what we're all about. And I can appreciate in every way. I was thinking about how I had so many good friends going to this rally, and that this was the beginning of something like the Tea Party, which everyone should be so everyone on the right should be to this day so proud of what the Tea Party accomplished, which was massive political mobilization that was not only peaceful, but was successful and

was orderly. I mean it even went above the law abiding. I mean the Tea Party didn't even leave litter behind them for the most part. I mean, the Tea Party was a movement that people really could be and should have been proud of. And there was and there still is, I believe in opening for something like that. Now, look,

we didn't win these Georgia Senate seats. Yeah, something else can come up and maybe and you know, but I'm gonna tell you this, I've been saying for weeks now, I want us to fight this to the end and we use the process and do everything we can within the process to both get the true results, the accurate results of the election, and also to yes, slow the Biden administration down. But there are places we cannot go through, our lines that we cannot cross. I know you're not

doing it, and I'm not doing it. But what was troubling to you today wasn't only this assault on the Congress. And that's what this was. I mean, this was not just some rally somewhere. This was in the United States Capital. This was people scaling the walls. It looked like something be honest with yourself, you know what. It looked like something out of a third world Banana Republic dictator ship.

People scaling the walls, and people say, you know that, all of a sudden, the election isn't going to count anymore. And guns drawn in the Capitol, their reports still of a woman being shot in the neck out make sure I check in and make and see what the last

is on that one. But blood on the steps of on the floor of Congress, because some people took it upon themselves to ruin so much of the good work that's been done by MAGA, by the Trump administration, by the people who are pushing for an America First agenda that all of us, including the Democrats and the leftists who absolutely despised Trump, could share in. We actually want a better, safer, happier, freer country. This isn't just about

my team their team. It's not political tribalism. It's supposed to be about what's best for the country. And that's what MAGA at its core, is rooted in. This today is the opposite of MAGA. What we saw at capitol. I'm not talking about all the protesters. I'm talking about those who storm the Capitol. And let's be very clear about this too. What was the favorite tactic of the left during the BLM protests. What was their favorite thing that they said? Up, you're in the freedom This is

the Buck Sex and Show podcast. Mayhem at the Capitol earlier today. Quote, I'm asking for everyone at the Capitol to remain peaceful, no violence, Remember we are the party of law and order, respect the law, and our great men and women in blue, thank you. That is the

right message here from the president. And we need to understand that, for example, those law enforcement officers on Capitol Hill who are protecting our members of Congress, Republican and Democrat as they as they darn well should, they're doing their job and there there is nothing about what was happening today where cops. I mean, there's a lot of video, you can see it. Cops are being attacked, cops are being pepper sprayed. This this is what we expect from

the other side. This is what we expect from the left. I will say, I'm very I'm very heartened by the fact that conservatives, the conservatives that I know who are not only great minds and an excellent broadcasters and thinkers, but but I also know personally are good people. They're all just saying, look, this is this is unacceptable. We condemn this. This isn't a condemnation, but it isn't what

the left does. And that's the big separation. What did they always say about BLM all summer this past summer and they've done it before too. Oh it was a mostly peaceful protest, and that was what they hid behind, not dealing with the reality of what had actually happened and standing in front of buildings on fire and saying, oh, well, until this, it was great. Now. They do that because they don't want to offend their constituents, being the left,

the socialist, the Antifa, BLM. They don't want to upset them and their audience at places like C and A AN MSNBC are very very favorable to those groups, if they're not even a part of them themselves. They like those groups a lot, so they always give this out. They always have this on the one hand, on the

other or halfhearted description of this. I'm here to tell you people that showed up today in in DC to protest what they feel as a stolen election, and the ones who were abiding by the laws and were respecting their fellow Americans, God bless them. And that's right within the American American tradition. Period. The people that stormed the Capitol building and attacked police officers and took selfies on the floor of Congress after have to be evacuated and

at Capitol Hill police pulling their guns. They don't know what this is. They don't know if they're gonna These rioters are going to do something far more violent than just breaking in the windows, which is bad enough on its own. Those people are their actions should be condemned unequivocally fully, and I do, and all of us should. Those actions were wrong, wrong, and the President is telling them that they're wrong. I do wish we'd have a little bit more forcefulness from him on this. I'm just

going to say it. And I understand how upsetting, not just to not just the last few days have been, but also ever since November. I understand that there are people out there who feel like they're loose in their country. But there's a way to fight against this. Thanks for listening to the Bus Show podcasts. Remember to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, at the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. Her few sets in after mob invades US Capital.

That's what's on CNN dot com right now. It's exactly the kind of headline that everyone at CNN who hates Trump is thrilled to see. I can tell you that I want to bring in my friend John Cardillo now he's x NYPD's a conservative commentator, radio host and buddy of mine. John, it's a tough day. I appreciate you joining. Yeah, you know, very tough day, said day for America. And

you're right, CNN's going to sensationalize these headlines. Right when Black Lives Matter and Antifa were out there destroying businesses, destroying the cities, channing for the police to be killed, they were called peaceful protesters. This is a mob. This is a violent mob. And look, I don't you know, Buck, I don't condone a lot of what we're seeing. My terrorism is terrorism, no matter who does it it, We on the right at least call it as we see it. The left fails to do that, and I think it's

important that we always maintain that principle. I mean, one reason that I can sit here and I did, and John, you and I were talking. It's one of the reason I want to bring you on. When BLM was happening, When when police stations were being literally burned down in places like Minnesota, and businesses looted and and all that mayhem was happening, I was able to say, not only is this completely unacceptable, but this is what their side does and they need to own that, meaning the Democrats

and the left. What happened today makes that much harder, and that means it helps the people who want to loot and destroy buildings and act out violently. Yeah. Look, but this is nothing new, right, I mean, think about it. Donald Trump pardons some you know, white color criminals that

the media is that the flect think. Barack Obama pardons fal and Terry Aristosco Lopez Rivera, who was aligned to the group responsible for a one hundred and thirty bombings in the United States, the Puerto Ricanseparatist Group, many of them police stations. He was best of friends with Bernadine Dorn and Glaire's The Weather Underground that specifically bombed police stations. And we were called right wing conspiracy theory nut jobs

for pointing out these pardons of commutations. Actually, in the case of Lopez Rivera, we were called right wing nut job conspiracy theorists for pointing that stuff out. So the left has always owned the media. We know that, but they're very subjective in their narrative. And you're right, it's only going to get worse going forward. What do you think the president's response has been today? Would how would you assess it? And what should what do you think

you should do going forward. Now we've only got a few weeks before the inauguration is supposed to happen. What should the president's tone be? Well, look, I think the video he put out was fine. He said he did something more than any prominent national Democrats ever done. In the midst of the unrest. He told people stop go home, we need peace, we need law and order. Did Joe Biden do that? When BLM and N t for a riding. Did Kamala Harris to Chuck Schumer to Nancy Pelosi? The

list goes on and on. You don't have enough time on air tonight. But I thought Trump did the right thing, and he reiterated that. He reinforced it with a follow up tweet thing, we need peace, sweet harmony, we need law and order. And so I think he needs to carry on that team. But I have to tell you, Buck, I do believe this election was stolen. I do believe

there was massive fraud. I do believe the irregularities. I'm gonna look, I don't remember, going back to being a little kid at any other point in history when it took two three weeks months to call an election. Election Day was two months ago. New York twenty two. The congressional district still isn'tformally called. There's something very troubling about that,

and it weeks of problems in the electoral process. So I hope Donald Trump uses his mega brand to both shine up bright light on that going forward and to back more America First candidates both with money and end his media spotlight in the twenty two interns. Well, I think you raised a very important point. We're speaking of John Cardilo, x NYPD officer and also conservative commentator and has been a right along there with me, a very strong supporter of Trump and the MAGA movement now for

for four going on five years. And and John, you know, we we see this kind of situation happen, and we see the way that it's obviously going to be exploited by the left for their own purposes. Now right now they're gonna try to tar the entire movement. Now they're gonna come after every oh, everyone is responsible for all of this. I mean one area where I do think you know their need we need to speak with one voice, is we can't you know, we can't back the blue.

Sometimes there was a lot of video of cops getting attacked. Those cops were doing their jobs. Yeah, oh absolutely. Look the Capitol Police in particular, very small department, a professional department, and EI I really didn't like the optics of what I saw there with the capital being storm and these cops being overrun, and then the response was predictable, right, so we wound up happening. DJ then brought in tactical teams from the other federal agencies FBI, DAATF, Homeland Security,

and they're always going to supplement. You have a lot of law enforcement, a lot of gun and badge carriers around the DC area, so it's you know, they're going to deploy back up immediately. But the optics of that were terrible for our people. I really was disappointed seeing that.

And you know, we have, you raise something very important when we talk about the way elections have been changing, and there's clearly something that is different now about these elections because of the ways that in the COVID year in particular, they've expanded voting and all this other stuff that's going on. You know, we have processes and say the judicial system, things like recusal where it's not even someone has a conflict of interest, it's avoiding the appearance

of a conflict of interest. Right, It's not that the judge can't do their job, it's that we all have to believe the judge can do the job without a complicate interest. That same a principle applies to elections. That's why having this delay and oh they're gonna stop counting and we're gonna mail in and we're gonna have these ballot boxes. That erodes fundamental trust in the system. Oh terribly terribly. I mean I think it erodes it to

an interpertable degree. Now, look, and there are provisions in the Georgia Constitution, that's say, and Georgia state law the governor can't involve himself in the process. However, Brian Kemp was free to comment on the irregularities. He was free to say things just look really dirty, as was Raffensburger, as was Gary Stirlely, and none of them did. So what did people feel? While people felt they were complicit, people felt they were owned. Now, I don't know if

any of those theories are true. Right, I'm not a guy who speculates. I don't like you. I mean, I think one of the reasons we get along. So what we deal in facts even if things fire us up. But I will tell you it's sure looks bad. It looks bad. And when a county in Georgia, in the midst of everything that went on in the general presidential election, decides to stop counting votes at eight pm, nine pm in the governor and Secretary of State, who are under

scrutiny and suspicion, remains silent about that. They don't even issue a statement saying, hey, we don't have the power to do anything, but we think this is a real bad idea and maybe you guys should count through the night. Well, man, it certainly lends to the theories that are floating around out there. It certainly doesn't help their position. John Cardil everybody formerly of the MYPD follow him on social media

for not already on parlor on Twitter. John, thanks so much, man, good to talk to you, as always always great Buck, thanks man. So here we are friends, dealing with what was a what should have been a day of Republican unity, speaking with one voice about the questions and allegations and just the depressing feeling that we have about this election. I see this the same way that so many of you do. And now that we have the Senate seats that are being called for war knock and us off

control of the Senate as well. But this adds to this is another problem. The timing of this is going to be. It's even worse given the transfer of power into Democrat hands. Right now, you're in the freedom hunt. This is the Buck Sex and Show podcast. I know that social media companies are entirely in the pocket of the DNC. I know that they've engaged in unprecedented suppression of free speech this year, and they've been doing it for a while, but now they're just they're quite open

about it. Now. They have no qualms about straight up saying that you're not allowed to say question lockdowns. I've been the target of some of this on social media from the companies, I mean, from random people, and I've got to tell you, this is unbelievable. Even with all of that. I was about to play for you just now. I was about to play for you the President's about minute and twenty second long speech that he released while

they were still clearing out Capitol Hill. Of these these rioters, and that's what they are breaking into a building or the rioters protesters are the people who were out on the streets obeying the law and being good citizens and good Americans. Rioters are the people breaking into the building. And we understand these differences. The left, the Democrats don't. We do understand them, and we will call this out.

But I was going to play for you this Trump comment where he calls for everyone to be peaceful and he but he says the election was stolen. Twitter has taken it down a statement from just now, just minutes ago. I mean, I was ready to que this up and play it for you off the President's Twitter account, and one of the biggest and most powerful social media companies in the world has decided that they will not allow they will not allow for this to be hurt anymore.

The president of the United States. It's a it's an official statement from him. But to use Twitter because it's a mechanism platform. I mean, this is how different is this from if if you know, Google didn't let you get to the Whitehouse, dot gov or something. I mean, this is crazy, but you know why, because he said that there is a there was a stolen election, and

you're not allowed to say that. And one of the problems we after one of the things that we are seeing is that the suppression of ideas like this, the suppression of free speech that we are seeing here, results in even more anger and frustration and lack of trust in the system. When social media companies tell you you can't question as they have to me lockdowns for COVID nineteen for example, that makes me want to question them

even more. And when social media companies tell people that you're not allowed to say I thought we had free speech in America. That means the freedom to be wrong. Even that means the freedom to say things that may in fact be untrue. And where was all this fact checking during the four years of Russia collusion? Lies, lying about the president as a traitor, lying about the president

working with the Russians to steal the last election. Yeah, they didn't have left left wing people stormed the Capitol. They did have Antifa rioting on an Auguration Day. They did have deep state actors fabricating evidence, lying and working with the Democrats and the media behind the scenes to create this grounds for a special Counsel around Russia collusion that only a moron could have actually believed it occurred. But they did it, they used it. They slowed down

Trump's agenda. They greatly harmed his presidency and with it, the American people by perpetuating that lie, by engaging in that lie. Unbelievable stuff. Though. I mean, I'm sitting here and I want I wanted to tell you about this. I wanted to play it for you, and sure enough,

right as I'm about to it's pulled off Twitter. Now we can, in fact, you know, I do want you to hear it, and so I've had I've had the ability now to reach out and get one of our one of our production team to pull to pull the MP three and here it is, Paine. I know you're hurt. We had an election that was stolen from us. It was a landslide election and everyone knows it, especially the other side. But you have to go home now. We have to have peace. We have to have law and order.

We have to respect our great people in law and order. We don't want anybody hurt. It's a very tough period of time. There's never been a time like this where such a thing happened where they could take it away from all of us, from me, from you, from our country. This was a fraudulent election. But we can't play into the hands of these people. We have to have peace. So go home. We love you. You're very special. You've seen what happens. You see the way others are treated

that are so bad and so evil. I know how you feel. But go home and go home in peace. Go home and go home in peace. That's happening. It looks like the capital at least has been cleared as I'm speaking to you right now. But the point that he made there about playing into their hands, I think

that really needs to be emphasized. We have now a Democrat takeover of the federal government underway through elections, which, whether you think they're real or not, they're the only I mean, whether you think they're fair or not, that's the only thing we've got. That is the system we have. There's not some alternative now. Unless we can present nuclear

option level proof here, nothing is going to change. Biden Harris are going to be president and vice president, and you're going to have a Democrat, well a fifty fifty tie in the Senate. That's an effective Democrat majority. When Kamala Harris as President of the Senate because she's vice president, becomes the tie breaking vote, and obviously Nancy Pelosi speaker

of a house. I know, friends, this is all very disappointing, but they have been given a gift now politically speaking, because once they take power and they are on the verge of it, everybody who is associated with the Trump movement, everyone who wants to push the ideas of America first and be a critic, be a block on the Biden Harris left wing agenda, is now going to be saddled with this idiocy of attacking the Capitol Building in this way.

And look, I know that they didn't storm it all with machine guns, and this isn't a coup, and they're over they're they're exaggerating in the left here. What really happened today. This wasn't they're they're calling it a you know, a terrorist takeover to no, but it was a it was an unlawful protest. It was a riot. It turned into a riot, and the people responsible should be held to account legally. And it's incumbent upon all of us to protect our movement, to protect our ideas, our honor.

It's this is a point too. I have a lot of people that when this first happened, and I'm not one who is prone to profanity, but I let something, let something go on social media today because you know, knock this blank out, guys, was what I was saying as soon as I saw that they had breached and they were running around Capitol Hill, and people are coming at me saying, oh, what happened. I thought I thought you were maga, I thought you were Trump supporter. No,

it's because I support the Trump agenda. It's because so many of us support the Trump movement and what that would mean, what the ideas and the policies would do for the country, that I continue to do this. Thanks for listening to the Buses and Show podcast. Remember to subscribe on Apple Podcast, the iHeart Radio app, or wherever you get your podcasts. We have Will Ricardella joining us now from from DC. He is on the ground. He's with the Washington Examiner. Will thank you so much for

joining us. Yeah, thanks for having me. Buck. All right, man, you're down there, you're around it, you're seeing it. What's going on. Well, the Capitol's pretty well secured now. The sirens are starting to die down. But what started out as a very peaceful gathering rally kind of you know, was very chaotic when people left the you know, the ellipse in front of the White House and walked down

to the to the Capitol building. UM, I don't think DC certainly wasn't prepared for the vast amount of people there were. There was a few hundred thousand people here. It was incredible how many people there were, and it was very easy for it was ripe for bad actors to hijack that. They weren't prepared at the capital for this many people, and the vast majority were peaceful. Um. I was there at the most chaotic of times. I was able to walk around. There were no problems. I

didn't see any property damaged outside the Capitol. There were people had cars parked there. I didn't see anybody breaking car windows, rocking car setting fire to cars. There were no I didn't see any businesses damaged around the Capitol. Most of it was focused inside the Capitol. People who breached the Capitol. You know. Well, I did ask a

friend right beforehand. I was I was texting as we were in a commercial break, and I was texting a friend who was there, and I said, look, man, I know that you're going to tell me the truth and you're gonna know what's up. I said, were there were there any false flags in there? He said, Look, I

don't know. I wouldn't be surprised, but he said, I gotta tell you, there absolutely were people that are that think that think that they are Trump supporters who were not only in the in the crowd that that that breached the perimeter of the Capitol, but they were the majority of it. Well what do you make of this? I mean, are are you? Are you shocked at this happened? Or did you feel that that this one was coming? I'm not shocked, and I can't What I can't tell

you is I see this Antifa rumor. I didn't see antifa. I didn't see blm um. And the people who I saw at the Capitol were there in the morning. Um, I saw them in the street. Were there people that looked at a place there? Yes? Um, But is that enough evidence to say, oh, Antifa hijacked. I didn't see that. I Look, these are people. This is a cross section of America. This is the American working class or black people, white people of Asian people of all ages. There are

people on scooters, all elderly people there. I saw people with canes and walkers. Um. There was a lot of women young women, older women, older men, younger men. Um. You know, it was when I got to the Capitol building. The people who were outside were very peaceful. It was the people who were inside. And look, this is a matter of the DC police, DC Metro and Capitol Hill police being overwhelmed. So again, could this have been handled better by the city. Absolutely, I just don't think that

they were stating that they couldn't. They could foresee how the frustration the American people. I mean, these people traveled hundreds of miles, thousands of miles in some cases, either are everyday working people. I think that their frustration really hasn't been elucidated properly by any of the commentary after the fact that you know, COVID really took away a

lot of their livelihoods. And I heard them talking about it, that they were frustrated over the lockdowns and what it did to their bottom line and what it did too and the election and and and and you know, the lawlessness of a kind of bread during the election season, and with the last minute rule changes, and they feel like they're frustrated and they don't feel like they're being heard, and you know, it was I wasn't shocked in the morning because I saw how many people there and I thought,

this is way too many people. Something bad is bound to happen. We're speaking of Will rot Cardella. He is at the Washington Examiner's down in DC right now and not far from where all this stuff has been going down all day to day. You know, Will, You mentioned the lockdowns, and you and I have been talking about this from the very beginning of the lockdowns on air, and there's a clear not only is there a divide between the elites and the people that haven't missed a

paycheck and are comfort working from home. Some of them even prefer the work set up right. There are a lot of people that say, hey, now I've got this virtual life and I don't have to commune anymore. And they are oftentimes, especially in the media and the journalist,

there's some of the biggest advocates for lockdown. And I do think, and I talk to peop about this, there's a sense among many Trump supporters, and I'm sure many of them who were today in DC, that there was also a willingness to it's obvious to use lockdowns in this year of twenty twenty as a tool to to make the country miserable and therefore more likely to vote against Trump, to effectively blame him for all of it.

And I think there's a tremendous resentment over that because they made people suffer more than they had to so that Joe Biden could win. Well, you bring up a couple of points some we talked about on your show when I said Democratic governors hijack the economy, and there was a story in Politico saying, look, they were terrified that the economy would pick back up prior to the election and what that might mean for Trump's reelection chances.

So I think that's somewhat empirical that that's why they did it. Now they're looking for a large bailout from Congress, in which many states just got. So yeah, that's that's definitely part of it. But we have to look at the past five years. I mean, these are the people that elected Trump. When Trump gets in, you have the previous administration going after him, spying on his campaign. The opposition party created a dossier at a nowhere of no evidence,

They opened up investigations. There is a basically a coup at the levels of government started by the Obama administration. They launched investigations which tied Trump's hands behind his back at the beginning of the administration, so the people felt like they voted them in. And look what the left did to them. I mean they were lying, they were cheating, they were engaging in lawlessness to stop them. Then then you get into the Ukraine tobaccle where they engaging impeachment.

These people don't feel like they've been heard. Then you take away their livelihoods. You say, lockdown, your job is not essential. You know what I mean, you're the problem. It's you don't wear masks. That's why it's spreading. And when they were fighting against lockdowns in May, they mocked them. They said, oh, you're threatening Whitmer and Michigan and look at these people. They can't it's their fault. It's spreading. And look, this was a big giant powder keg that

was ready to explode. These people are frustrated, they don't feel like they're being heard. Then they're being mocked over the election irregularities and and and people are laughing at them. And one of the persons who was interviewed and said it has to stop. We feel like we're not a joke and you know, I think that's part of at eruption today. I'm not saying anyone who engaged in lawlessness disobeying a lawful order should be arrested, prosecuted to the

highest degree of the law. Same thing with anyone who engaged in property damage should be arrested and put behind bars. I don't care how long. But I mean, there were legitimate people there who were extremely frustrated and very passionate and what do they want? Will because a lot of this was around the certification process today and that it felt like there was there was a hope that maybe Vice President Pence and he said he wasn't going to do anything. And Pence is you know, that guy's a

man of his word. If he says he's not going to do it, he's not going to do it. But but what were they telling you? What were the people who were being lawful and respectful citizens but exercising their First Amendment rights? What do they want? What do they want to express? And essentially what they were saying was they were tired of abiding by lockdown orders. They were there was a there was an element of we will not comply anymore, that we do follow the law we

are orderly. It's you who are lawless. It's you who are without order. And you know, and then you demand all of this from us. This is our house, you work for us. That was the real feeling from these people. It's saying, we're not going to take it anymore. And they came in vast numbers to show like, look, stop

laughing at us, stop mocking us. We're serious people. We have lives too, and and and they were tired of their legislatures in the states changing laws in the last minute, and they feel like they have no voice, and that it was really a culmination of that. And that's what the people were really talking. These are every day American, working class Americans, people I grew up with, and that that was their sentiment that I picked up all day. I walked. I was there at five forty five in

the morning. I left at four thirty pm. So I was walking. I was, I was, you know, walking among them the entire day, listening to what they were saying. I could I had, I could go wherever I wanted. Nobody bothered me on my phone out the entire day. And will you know, there were videos circulating and still are of some protesters, rioters attacking police officers, punching police officers and really getting involent with them. I mean, you

saw a hole. You said, what you thought over one hundred thousand, one hundred thousand people together, way easily easily wait over that. Yes, And and the the interactions that you witnessed, not at Capitol Hill. Im talking about elsewhere in DC. Elsewhere in the streets between protesters and police, what were they like, one hundred percent peaceful, one percent peaceful outside of the capitol. The breach of the Capitol

is where everything happened. And it was those It was those bad actors that sparked that breach in the Capitol, people smashing the windows and breaching it. Not everybody did it. I mean, there were people who were out there and they kind of hijack the inauguration, like with a setup for the inauguration, and we're hanging out there and we're saying, you know, we're not going to take this anymore essentially

and cheering um. But it was really the it was really the fact that the DC and I'm not blaming DC Metro. I mean, obviously there were bad actors here, but look, they did not have the proper set up to stop this, which made it rife for hijacking by very bad actors, and that's exactly what happened. Well, what do you think about the president's response and where do we where does the movement? I mean, it's about this is about more than even just Trump's words. Where does

the movement go from here? Look, that's a good question. I don't think conservatives are really necessarily in that bad of a place. You know, you had fuel to the fire with Loffler and Purdue losing, and you have Democrats do have a majority. But you know, I think there was a lot of overreaction in the media to in

particular among conservatives, to the victory. Look, there's good luck getting this this progressive agenda on board, and we're not talking enough about the left's radical agenda and how that kind of created this. You created this monster where they're saying, we're going to pack the courts, we're gonna you know, have Puerto Rico as a state, We're gonna have DC as a state. If we win the Senate, We're going to fundamentally change America. And that added fuel to the fire.

I mean, people talk about Trump and Trump's rhetoric and a lot of the things he said are stupid, absolutely, but we never talk about you know, Warnock just got elected. Here's the guy who's an open semit, open anti semit. He's a socialist radical. I mean, he doesn't like America in particular. It is not like white people, you know. And here he is now in the Senate. And that's kind of the mentality of the entire Democratic Party, you know.

So you know a lot of the rhetoric came from them, and that's where a lot of this frustration comes from. Is now that you know, a lot of these state governments have kind of abdicated to democratic governor's power that they shouldn't have. And now you have the federal government the same thing happening. And they feel lost and they don't have they feel like they don't have a voice. A lot of their businesses are still closed. They a lot of them lost their businesses. And that that you know,

and this is the frustration. We'll record tell everybody at the Washington Examiner. Will appreciate you bringing us ground truth for one's going on in DC. But stay indoors, stay safe. That I'm my man, Thanks for joining. Thank you, Buck bye,