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gun rights and zero percent state income tax. Our country was set up so that states, as you know, would be laboratories of our democracy, that states would be able to try different policies, and people could move depending on what they wanted, what they liked, and how it was all going well. It's amazing to me that you have such a clear, such a clear winner here with the state of Florida, as well as some other red states that are doing quite well. A lot of Californians leaving

for Idaho, for example. You've had a big surge of people to Montana, which is actually not that read as a state, but it is majority Republican and this is going on at a time when we've really been reliant on state governments in ways that we haven't seen in a very long time. Because of the COVID pandemic. The state's authority to take action on health matters has really made a big difference in our lives. We had been, especially conservatives, focused on the tyranny of the federal government

for a very long time. But as we see, state governments can be either protectors of your rights and liberties or they can trample on them even more. And the states that have had the most control over day to day life during the pandemic, the ones that have taken the most extreme measures and that have favored thetist authoritarian point of view, are big losers in all of this. And Governor Rhonda santist down in Florida is a beacon.

Dare I say the Sunshine State is a beacon of light for the rest of the country for what is possible, for what could have been in New York, in California, in Illinois, in many places, and he's running with it. People have been asking me what is the future of the GFP, and I keep saying, nobody knows, which I understand is an easy answer to a very complicated question. But we still have this impeachment trial of Donald Trump coming up, which will definitively one way or the other

tell us whether he can run for office again. And even if he were to be barred from holding office in the future, which I don't think will happen, his children will likely run for office, one or several of them. So the Trump named, the Trump brand will continue on. But there are others that you are seeing now who I think are going to be increasingly looked to for leadership in the GOP, and Governor Rhonda Santis is at

the top of that list right now. He hasn't been involved in all the election disputes and all that craziness that happened after November. He was busy running his state and running it quite well. And I've experienced some of this. I've made a couple of trips now down to Florida to see what it's like to be in a place where people are largely living their lives despite the pandemic.

And now de Santis is going even a few steps further by saying that he's going to take actions that, let's be honest, should have been taken by Republicans when they had a majority in the House and the Senate and the Trump presidency, but they didn't. Big tech control its financial contributions to politicians, and just its overall influence on our entire system is hard to overstate. And the GOP has a lot of answers, a lot of answers that are required at this point as to why they

didn't do more. Why didn't they take action when they could have. We heard a lot of talk about Section two thirty nothing was done. Well, DeSantis is doing something. He is pointing out. First of all, this is necessary for everybody to understand. Everyone across the country needs to know that big tech is now openly at war with conservative ideas and speech. They're not going to ban everybody, They're just going to ban selectively to chill the speech

of other people. You don't have to kick everybody off. You just kick off a few prominent people here and there for their wrong think, and everyone else gets the message and they fall in line. Desantists spoke earlier this week about this. Here's what he said, Play thirteen. At the turn of the twenty first century, online tech now represented tools to liberate Americans from reliance on distrusted legacy media outlets. A social media proliferated over the past decade.

Citizens could directly connect with large numbers of people and could cut out corporate media outlets entirely. Over the years, however, these platforms have changed from neutral platforms that provided Americans with the freedom to speak to enforcers of preferred narratives. Consequently, these platforms have played an increasingly decisive role in elections and have negatively impacted Americans who dissent from orthodoxy's favored

by the big tech cartel. Not allowed to break from it, not allowed to say that you disagree with the dominant narrative, or else they punish you. And for people who think that this only effects and I believe this has been one of the challenges on the right because we're just we're less active on a lot of these platforms our people so to speak, I mean, Republican voters are far outnumbered by Democrats on platforms like Twitter and Instagram, although

Instagram's catching up a bit. Facebook is where where you would still find a lot of conservatives. But as you know, Facebook is now as bad an offender as any of the others. But this affects you no matter what your business is. You could run a flowers shop and you say the wrong thing about COVID policy, and all of a sudden you're not able. You know, your your account is shut down. Well, if you need that account to promote what your what your store does, you could be

put out of business pretty quickly. And if you say the wrong thing, you could also end up getting a pile on from social media. And they'll never stop that, right, they won't. They won't try to prevent people from having their lives ruined by the by the social media mop. So there's a lot of consequences even for folks in their in their day to day from this, no matter who you are, no matter what you do for a living. And this it's deeply on American. We need to understand.

That's the way we should speak about this. It is deeply un American for companies to suppress political speech when they exist and they created themselves, I mean they were built, They made they made promises around being free exchange of idea platforms, so they essentially lied to us. I mean

this was all abait and switch. They said, oh no, as long as you don't do anything illegal, as long as you're not doing something that we could all agree as egregious death threats, putting illegal content online, things like that. As long as you're not doing that, we'll let you share your ideas. Not then they changed because the little woke children who run these companies now, because even though they're not necessarily the ones at the top of the

org chart, they're so vehement in their ideas. I mean, they're so absolutely scornful of people at different points of view that they'll just torch anyone who gets in their way, including people in their own company who try to be a little bit more adult, people who try to be a little bit more fair minded about all of this. DeSantis telling everybody that cancelation can happen to anyone and

this needs to stop. Play fourteen Hunter Biden's story was true, Okay, we now know was true, and the typical corporate media outlets they just chose to ignore it. Obviously they wanted to beat Trump, they had they had a view on the election. They didn't want to give it any air. So we rely on social media to go around that, not let corporate legacy media outlets control the discourse and let us speak so you had the New York Post

to run it, and you couldn't get any tracks. Shit, you couldn't get any reach on it because Big Tech put their thumb on the scale. So that was true what they said at the time, Oh it was. It was it's a conspiracy or it's based on hacked information. Are you kidding me? You're trying to tell me if there was hacked information that could damage me, you guys wouldn't print it. Give me a break. You can whiz

on my leg, but don't tell me it's raining. You guys would print it every single day if you could, and Big Tech would allow it to proliferate every single day twenty four seven. So it's not being done in a principled basis, and it's not there's there's threats on me, and it only gets taken down if law enforcement goes and tells tells them to do it. Otherwise it just stays up. They're not moderating any of that, So they

haven't done a good job in it. The thumbs always on the scale and run one direction, and we just need to bring we need to bring some protection for folks. I really really worry when you have a business owner that may rely on some of these tools to do small business. If they engage in wrong think or they go to the wrong political event, then all of a sudden they can act in concert and just take take you off. You need to have protection against that. And

he's not just speaking about this. This isn't just a rhetorical thing. He's going to push for action and that at the state level in Florida to protect people states. You know, Facebook and these other companies they're operating in Florida, and so he wants the state legislature to start creating protections in that state for your data against political discrimination. I mean, ultimately, what we really have to do is wherever we can create categories or add a category of

political discrimination to anti discrimination law. And I know that some people say no, but that's not. The libertarian view is that we should people private businesses should be able to do Yeah, but they can't and that's never going to change. So we can either create protections for more people so that we have actually some hope of being able to win this win this political and cultural fight over the long term of free speech, or we can

just continue to suffer and get crushed. So Desantists is saying that they're going to start doing things in Florida. He wants the legislature, the state legislature to go along with this, to create protections for people from big tech. This is the beginning of what needs to happen. People ask me, how do we deal with this or what are the next steps we need to soothe them. There needs to be financial pain, or at least likely the

likely prospect of financial pain that has to happen. There have to be consequences for the kinds of censorship, for the overreach that we're seeing, or else they'll keep just doing it. There was this idea, and I've been telling you this from the very beginning. Oh, don't worry. Once the election stuff is over, once Joe Biden's president, they're going to let people go back to normal. No, they're not.

Why would they. They got away with it. They were able to exercise these companies in concert with the Democrats, they're able to team up and exercise power. Now there guy Joe Biden's in office. You think they're going to back off? Now? You think that they really view what they did as anything other than a huge win. No, that's why you've got to have Republicans in places where they do have power and control to wield it in defense of liberty. Passivity when liberty is under assault is

not a virtue. And a lot of conservatives, i think, have adopted this position of well, just let the market speak, or well just let things play out and we'll see. Well we are seeing because that had been largely the approach, and it is a disaster and it hurts individuals. It hurts people, It ruins their livelihoods, it destroys their business models. I mean, they kicked Parlor off the Internet, and people were cheering this on in tech circles as if somehow

this had achieved something. Meanwhile, Facebook was more of a place where there was conspiracy hatched about the Capitol Hill riot, but it didn't matter because they were still trying to just kick off Parlor because Parlor won't play by the actual rules, meaning whatever democrats want, those are the only real rules. The principle is the democrats have power and they will crush you if you don't do what they want. That's the only principle they buy by. Desantist knows this

and he's had an off of it. Plate twelve or is This going to be a big fight in the legislative session. Hopefully we'll be able to get a lot of support. I think most folks do want protections for their privacy and their data. I think most folks want protections from being the platform. And it's not just being banned from Twitter or something. As we've seen, these companies can act, they can collude. They can deny you if you're a small business of payment processing, the ability to

use email and text. So what you go to a rally that they don't like, or you engage in wrong think and all of a sudden, your flower business is decapitated for for a month because they take action. That is what is happening in this country. The left is a totalitarian political ideology in America right now. They don't care that you are suffering, they don't care that you don't have freedom. They advocate for more of this, They

demand more of this. So we can either continue to lose, continue to be on our back, the back of our heels, and hope that somehow they just get tired of this and stop, or we can find ways to fight back. We can find ways to make these organizations and eventually,

of course these Democrat politicians. But for now, it would be helpful just to make the companies that are doing the bidding of the far left in America make them stop because there's a consequence, there's a cost to what they're doing right now, you know, the only cost is they win, we lose. And conservatives say they're going to retreat from public life. That's not the answer. You're listening

to the Buck Sexton Show podcast. Make sure you subscribe to the podcast on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. You are correct, you remember correctly. I do believe that this is constitutional. I think that the Constitution sets out exhaustively what times what power the Senate has to try and convict officials. It says that you can try and convict the President of the United States,

not an ex president, not a private citizen. I think that there's no jurisdiction here, to use a legal term, The Senate just doesn't have the authority to try and convict a private citizen. The right remedy, the Constitution makes clear is criminal proceedings by in the criminal justice system. If you think you've got a private citizens committed a crime, that person, even if they are an ex president can be tried and so forth, but the Senate does not

have the power to do that. Unconstitutional actions from the Democrats now that they're in the majority in the Senate not a surprise, or they have a day fact a majority as you know, fifty fifty with Kamala as the tying a tiebreaking vote. So there's a part of me that's happy that they'll be making I mean, there he head Senator Josh Holley. Party is glad they'll make this argument because it's the right one. I mean, I think they're correct and this is an abuse, but they also

because they're being forced to go to this trial. I hope the people that are speaking in favor of Trump's position on this will explain how this is all just so disruptive, pointless, and vindictive. Now it's pointless if you're a rational person who wants what's best for the country. If you're a Democrat who's still furious about all the terrible things that happened with Trump, terrible things that happened for four years under Trump's presidency, then you view this

as payback. It's also an attempt for the Senate Democrats and for the Democrat Party overall to enshrine a narrative of the insurrection, and the insurrection is going to be used to bludgeon Conservatives and Republicans for years and years, if not decades to come, if we allow the narrative to be seized in this way. Make no mistake about it.

This is one of the reasons among many that I was so angry on the day of January sixth as soon as it happened, and I made no I you know how I feel if you listened to the show I was. I was honestly enraged because I realized on every level how counterproductive, how stupid, how damaging it is, and how much it hurts the cause of conservatism and hurts the cause of Trump and MAGA in America. First,

Democrats are leveraging this. This is now their primary tool of ideological suppression, or their primary argument for it is what happened on January six and now they want to talk more about it and get into the Senate record that Trump was part of an insurrection, He tried to create a coup. We have to fight that on the merits, not just as a procedural matter. The Democrats are lying about this. This is the Fuck Sexton Show podcast. Follow

Buck on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter. That's a question on impeachment. The impecient managers have now laid out their case. Trump's team is leaving open the door, it seems to arguing election fraud in the trial to repeating the false claims that somehow Trump won the election, those same false claims

that fueled the riot. Is this administration concerned that the former president's defense could incite for further violence, Well, certainly, watching reactions in the country, watching the potential for violence is something that we will do closely from the White House across the country, no matter what prompts it. And that's something we will certainly keep an eye on. But you know, I think in this case, as you know, there have been dozens and dozens of court cases that

have been debunked. The President of the United States is sitting in the Oval office, engaging and governing a country. And obviously we have moved forward even more than we were prior to the inauguration in proceeding in delivering on what the American people decided on in November. Not to be mean, Jen Saki is really the most eloquent communicator that they could find for this role. Really okay, you know it's the Democrats choice, but shocking that this is

the best choice that they could make. But anyway, there must be things that we don't really know about this, or maybe we do. The Trump team arguing about election fraud would be a bad idea. I hope they don't do it. I know that there's been some shake up among the lawyers who were going to be defending the president at this impeachment trial. You remember the last impeachment trial, by the way, No you don't. I'm sure. I mean

you remember it happened, right, But does anyone remember the arguments? Oh? MSNBC was they were just, oh my gosh, they were all a flutter with the amaz the speeches given by these brilliant legal theorists who are just going on and on and people like Adam Schiff about the Constitution and our republic and all this stuff. People don't give a crap about the Constitution or a republic. Please. They're authoritarians. They don't accept individual agency and human liberty. They want

to be in control. They want to tell you what to do. You do this because I said so, or I'll send big scary people with guns to make you do it. That's really the Democrat mentality. And here we are. So I hope that the president's team doesn't argue about the election, because this is really not ultimately about election fraud.

This is all about They're pushing all of this around the notion of Trump inciting an insurrection and whether there whether there was fraud or not, the insurrection aspect of it is the main line of attack, and that's going to be the main line of attack against all the rest of us. There's no way they're going to litigate in court the election. I'm just telling you this, And if you don't believe me or you're frustrated hearing this, circle back with me in a couple of weeks and

see if I'm right. They're not going to be able to present anything in court that settles the issue one way or another about election fraud allegations, and it will only play into the Democrats hands because right now it's there were lies, the lies led to the insurrection and now they're still lying about it. If they were to present that, no, what needs to happen is they should argue that the unconstitutionality of this, which I think is clear and also the way that this is being exploited

and exaggerated. And why are Democrats so set on bringing this prosecution in the Senate of the former president. It's because they're trying to get as much on the record as possible, trying to create as much noise as they can around the Republican the Trump insurrection. They just want this to be in big bold letters and all the

newspapers and then all the history books. And anytime someone comes along and says, hey, I'm a conservative populist and i have a vision for the future, and I'm going to fight against these leftist authoritarians and I want to make America a free country again, anyone who says anything like that is going to be shouted down with, Oh, he's advocating for the insurrection. Wait what, Yeah, that's right. They're intentionally painting with the broadest possible brush. They're smearing people.

They're talking about MAGA terrorists. And I didn't even get into this. You had another former and former CIA guy writing and I don't even know where it was, writing in one of the big I think it was the Washington Post, about how we need to treat the Trump insurrection like the ghottest insurgency global insurgency of the early

two thousands. So I want us all be very clearly, as I've been saying to you, they are comparing people running around inside the capital taking selfies with people who run drive planes full of civilians into buildings of civilians, killing thousands of people, that decapitate people on videos, who mutilate, murder and rape and pillage on levels that are truly, truly horrific beyond words. They're comparing those things and saying

that they're the same. It's basically the same. Yeah, as as as Tucker calls him a Chewbacca man, the guy who's running around with the furry hat and everything inside the capitol just like Zoehie, I mean, same same level of risk, same level of danger. Is like is like bin laden with a different, you know, different head covering.

That's really what these democrats this is insane. I mean, the people that are arguing this are shameful and disgusting, and I'm sure they know Trump supporters and have friends and neighborsh voter for Trump. They'd never say this stuff to their faces because they're all such little cowards. One thing that is really a a common almost defining characteristic of the contemporary liberal America is a lot of their political beliefs are always that they're willing to share them

to friendly audience. They're willing to say it when they've got a mob around them that agrees with them. But one on one, all of a sudden, they become very wimpy. They really don't actually want to have to defend these ideas, so they want to call everybody who supports Trump a maga terrorist, or imply at least that we're all maga terrorists. I'm not gonna say that to your face. Though they

are a bunch of there's a lot of cowardice. There's a lot of cowardice on the left, and I think it's a part of the political culture in a way that we can all see. You're aware of it, right, They don't they don't take up they don't take unpopular stands in order to defend people that they know are good and the right. No, they just they go along

with the mob all the time. Now it's not everybody, obviously, but it's very very commonplace, and I think it's almost celebrated, and there's a particularly the the lib Beta mail is the standard. You know, all these guys who kind of remind you of Pajama Boy from the Obama era, Remember Pajama Boy during Obamacare. Remind you of Pajama Boy. And they will say these things about how they need to put down the insurrection and use the FBI and use

the military against all these people. But they'll never actually walk up to your face on the street and say, yeah, you're an insurrectionist, not by themselves. Only if they've got a thousand of their buddies, all you know, chanting about blamb or anti far or whatever, then then they get tough. Annie McCarthy, as you know, as a guy I've had on the show many times. I've known Andy for many years. I like and he's a very smart guy. He is

very upset with Trump. So there are people who are who are on our team, so to speak, and who are good faith, patriotic Americans who are really angry about what happened with Trump, and I can understand they're point of view. But here's what Andy's saying about the Trump impeachment and what he sees it as Play eleven. This really is not a legal determination, it's a political judgment.

And whether or not the impeachment can properly go forward is a question constitutionally that is left exclusively to the Senate, which is a political body, and they've obviously voted to proceed. So, you know, I think you can make very strong legal points on both sides. I'm more persuaded by the side that says that the impeachment power was always understood to apply to people who are out of office as well as in office. But it's a debatable point. I think

it's beside the point. It's a legal it's a political determination. So Masayan ultimately comes down to whether or not the senators, you know, whether or not the Senators want to convict the president for insurrection. You know, even if we argue, even if the Trump Trump team argue that there is an unconstitutionality to this, probably not going to carry the argument. So that's why it's also important to dig in on the claim that Trump was inciting insurrection is not true.

It is a lie, It is a smear, and to call what happened on January sixth and insurrection in and of itself is dishonest. So that's how we have to fight against this narrative. We'll see who Trump has making the case in about a week or so. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. Join the conversation and message Buck on Facebook, Instagram, or email Team Bucket iHeartMedia dot com. He may read it on the show. These three different

executive orders about I want to make it clear. There's a lot of talk with good reason about the number of executive orders that I've signed. I'm not making new law. I'm eliminating bad policy. What I'm doing is taking on the issues that the president, the last president Nined States, issued executive orders I thought were very counterproductive to our security, counterproductive to who we are as a country, particularly in

U in the ear of immigration. This about how America is safe or strong, or more prosperous when we have a fair, orderly and humane legal immigration system. I'm not American. I'm not making new law. I'm just getting rid of bad policy by basically making laws. Notice the way that he tries to tell you what you see, what you observe. That does That's not real, that doesn't count. Don't don't pay attention to your lying eyes and ears. Listen, listen

to the Joe Biden talking point here. Now what he's doing is in fact creating laws, or he's taking actions that have the force of law, and he's doing it because he doesn't like what was done before, or he wants things to change and how they are now. But he's basically writing lass that's what these executive orders are. And the the sleight of hand here where it's all of a sudden just getting rid of the bad policies

of the past. Well, that's just a judgment call. That's not a way of explaining how what Biden's doing here isn't in some way overreach. Isn't the current president of the United States acting like he well, doing exactly what he said he wasn't going to do back in October. You remember that we actually probably could find that clip for you would say you can't you can't rule by executive order. They had this whole Biden presidency. Remember I've

said this to you so many times. Republicans run and tell you what they what they want to do, and then they try to keep their promises. But they have some people who fall away or there's you know, intra

party strife or whatever. Democrat for president run pretending to be something entirely different, and then they get an office and as well, we're not doing that anymore, now that we've fooled enough people in Arizona, Georgia, Pennsylvania into thinking that, you know, we care about unions really, or that we care about the rule of law or whatever it may be. Once we've done that head fake, then we get to really go to work then push the left wing policies

that we claimed during the election we had no interest in. Oh, we would never do that. Good old blue collar Joe. He's not gonna not gonna sell you out for foreign labor. He's not gonna do that. No union, guys, you can trust blue collar Joe. Now you can't, Guys. The whole thing is a fraud. Joe Biden's been whatever whatever he has had to be when he had to be it to get the most votes he could where he needed to. That is Joe Biden's entire political career. No one even

really knows what this guy believes stands for. If I ask you what issue was Joe Biden most passionate about if you knew his record, you might say making sure that credit card companies can charge usurious rates and that it's almost impossible to discharge credit card debt in bankruptcy. Right, if that's what Joe Biden as a Delaware senator was really passionate about. Right. I mean, if I ask you what is Joe Biden all about, at the end of

the day, you'll hear different things from different people. Maybe they'll say foreign policy. I think Jensaki said his first passionate as foreign policy. It's amazing because Joe Biden has been reliably wrong on foreign policy for forty years. He's just had bad judgment. His judgment on foreign policy is awful, but his judgment on these executive orders is also terrible. Not a surprise. Representative Andy Biggs of Arizona said this

about Biden's specifically his immigration executive orders. Play for President. Biden has issued another round of executive orders, this time focusing on immigration, and what he's doing is basically reinstating the catch and release program with regard to the asylum program, so people can come the clearer asylum status are going

to be released into the interior again. He's also ostensibly trying to parole parents who got their kids into the country somehow but are somewhere outside of the United States. Those children have been largely placed in the homes of relatives, many of whom are also in the country illegally, and so he's trying to get around the task force that's

going on with a current legal case. These types of things created centives for people that illegally entered the United States of America, and what that does is increase the power and strength of the human smuggling cartels, the drunk smuggling cartels that are running the situation south the borders. That's where these things are, and I'm going to keep fighting against that. He's right, what he's saying is all true.

First off, this is we're going through the same thing all over again, deja vu all over again, Yogi Bara, where you had people shown up at the border claiming asylum, and there were folks like me who did research and went to the border and figured out from border patrol, from the cases, from the numbers that were actually coming

up every day, that they were lying. Essentially, the people are showing up at the border, they had been coached and they were claiming that they faced violence in their home country, but that was just a past incredible fear standard, and then they wouldn't show up in court when it was time to show up, and explain really why they needed asylum. Right, So they were exploiting the good faith, in goodwill of the American people at the border. And there was all this fighting, you know, into the Trump

presidency from the Democrats. You were saying that's not true and we're a nation of immigrants and all this stuff. They were wrong. It was a lie because when they remain in Mexico program, all of a sudden, oh, you can still go to court to plead you know, your asylum case in court as a Central American for example, but you gotta wait in Mexico, which means you don't get to just go into the American interior, disappear and

never show up in court. Oh and then all of a sudden, the newest, all of a sudden asylum cases dropped off a cliff. Gee, I wonder why, right, Democrats were lying. They were lying until we could it was obvious what was going on. But until we had all the data to prove what was going on, they were just going to continue to perpetuate the lie, which is

what they did. And now that we have all the data, they're just gonna they're just acting like, oh, well it's different now, so let's let's go back to the previous policy where people who show up get to claim, oh, I have a credible fear, and then they get to

stay in the country. And this is an end run on the immigration system and all the legal immigrants, you know, Ask them about this, Ask them how they feel about people showing up crossing in the country illegally, because they're often doing an illegal surrender after they crossed the border, and then they find themselves in the country without any restraint. They can go anywhere they want, to do whatever they want,

and they never show up again. But Democrats acting like we didn't learn the lessons we learned because they don't care because they want a de facto open border. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. Follow Fuck on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter. Our friend will Rick Cardella is in the mix. He is at the Washington Examiner. He's down in DC, gonna tell us what's going on inside the Beltway. Will great to have you back, Ain. You good to be back, Buck,

Thanks for having me on. So we were talking about a lot of things today. One that's at the top of my mind is these immigration executive orders we saw before that what they told us, which is that These are people claiming asylum, who are claiming asylum for the right reasons, and they're not going to just fail to show up for their actual image, their actual asylum hearing in court. That was a lie. We've already seen this,

that wasn't true. That's why they remain in Mexico. Program resulted in a huge drop in these asylum requests and people showing up at the border. Now, Biden's going back to what I mean, I don't see how we can view this as anything other than the Democrats doing everything they can and moves as close as possible to a de facto open border or an even more porous border. Well, yeah, absolutely. And look, I don't know if you remember during the debate when Trump mentioned coyotes and no one on the

left knew what a coyote was. Well, you know, that's a shame, because you know whose business is going to boom our coyotes on the border. These are human smugglers. They treat people like garbage, and now their businesses is on the uptick because Biden's going back to all the same garbage policies that led to the Obama dubbed a humanitarian crisis on our southern border. Remember kids in cages

that happened under Obama. You know, Biden just had to open up another migrant detention center at the border for overflow. Where do you think those kids are going to go. They're all going to go right back into these detention centers. The Left isn't mentioning any of it. They've incentivized these people to come here. And look, coyotes are using Biden's words to up their client base and smuggle people into the country. You know, this is truly pernicious. And look,

they don't care about these kids. They use them, they put words in their mouth. This isn't about caring about kids. This is about getting a voter based for the Democratic Party. It's also about displacing and lowering low income wages so that there are p When they do raise minimum wage, it will kick a lot of people, you know, offer the roles, they won't be able to get human capital, and they'll be dependent on government for generations to come.

It also seems like there's some effort here for the Biden administration to shield Democrat members of Congress from having to take to votes on this, at least for right now. Why not? I mean they have the majority in the House, they have a de facto majority in the Senate. Why not actually pass legislation if they want to? If they want to change the rules in effect around immigration, they can do so. But Biden prefers to just use the pen on the phone method book. They have no mandate,

He has no political capital. He barely won the Senate. That was a squeaker. You know, they lost seats in the House. Joe Biden, you know, his already underwater and his approval rating, he doesn't have a mandate. People don't like his policies. They didn't like Barack Obama's policies, but they like Barack Obama. People don't like Biden as much as they liked Obama, and they certainly don't like his policies. People forget Trump. Everybody really liked Trump's policies. It was

Trump as his personality is what people didn't like. So, you know, Biden's finding out pretty quickly here that governing isn't as easy as staying in your basement and campaigning. And look, this is just going to compound. People don't want these policies. His improvement approval rate, he's going to drop even further, he's gonna have less and less of a mandate and it's going to be a bloodbath in

twenty twenty two. Now, let's talk about where we are on this rescue package, stimulus package, spending whatever they're calling it today. Senator Lindsey Graham, who of course was on Fox News last night, and you know every night he's audies. He's going to get answers any moment now, he's going to get to the bottom and get the answers that we need on all this stuff. Sure he is here, he is, though, telling everybody about the spending package or

play nineteen. And I do believe that this one point nine three in dollars package is going to do more harm than good to the American economy. And the reason we're having this debate, the way we're having this debate is because they have unlimited power. My Democratic colleagues, you've chosen to do this. The ten Republicans who went down

to the White House, I appreciate their effort. Maybe some good will come from that, But this process we're engaged in today makes me wonder if it was worth their time. Maybe we can pull a rabbit out of the hat and find a bipartisan compromise consistent with what we've done over the last year. If not, we're going to march down the reconciliation road. We're gonna take one point nine train dollars of spending and let one party spend it.

What happens if Democrats will go forward with a one point nine trillion dollars spending package and do it through

the essentially the budgetary gimmick or trick in Congress of Reconciliation. Well, I think I've been on your show many times, Buck, and we talked about this at nauseum, that what the Democrats did with COVID was to hijack the economy from Donald Trump, and that was so they can win the election in twenty twenty, and that these governors, in particular New York in California, which have tremendous economies, if you shut those down, you're going to hurt the entire American economy.

This is a bail this is their bailoff. This is their way to co opt the federal printing press. They don't they need to balance their budgets, they don't have a printing press. They did that with the guarantee that the left is going to come in there and give them pay them all. Three hundred and seventy billion dollars goes to states. This is just a payoff for help in bide and get into office. The rest is handouts

to cronies. And look, this is their generous medicaid funding that they have in part two to Obamacare, and in part two because they're leftists, to just throw money out the window, and look, you know you do. You will have inflationary pressures. If the economy opens and you're throwing this money into the economy and the velocity of money picks up, you're going to have a massive problem. You know, you can devalue the dollar. Yelling came out and said,

or I'm sorry. Powell came out and said their target inflation is two percent. They're a little bit under there now. So it seems like they're willing and ready to throw money around. We'll see what happens in the long run. In particular, if things start to open, we need things to open now, that would be the best stimulus. All the stimulus crap talk is just a handout to their cronies. Yes, and it seems like the only place where there's always a slowdown is in actually just getting money into the

hands of people affected by this. I Biden was saying it would be two thousand dollars. Now that now they've dropped that down, I think it's the fourteen hundred was the latest number that I saw. Well, they were pushing the two thousand in order to win those two Senate seats in Georgia. And now all of a sudden has changed all over again, and really what we see will

is the blue state exodus. They want to try to paper this over with money by sending a lot of federal tax dollars to Los Angeles, to New York City, and to New York and California as states. Isn't it interesting that you know they wanted to cut money out giving it to the people whose businesses are forcefully shut down everyday American people, so that they can increase the amount they give to their blue state cronies and governors and all of these people who haven't lost a dime.

In fact, I think some of them got to pay increase. They have paid no price for their terrible decision making. Then they get paid off and the American people actually get less. Then people wonder why everyone's so ticked off all the time. These people are in another world, They're in another reality, and the thing is is that they

never pay a price for being wrong. Speaking of Will Ricardella of the Washington Examiner, and Will, speaking of Washington, tell us what's going on here in DC with people demanding either being kicked off of committees or kicked out of Congress entirely for this new member of Congress from Georgia, Marjorie Taylor Green MTG is how people are referring to on the internet. They want the ouster of MTG. What

do you make of all this? Well, look you have now you have Democrats who fight, You say what you want about them. They're fighters and they're willing to knock her off. Look, we had Ellian olmar Aoc just accused, you know, Ted Cruise of attempted murder last week and it's like it didn't happen. And all we talked about is Marjorie Taylor Green. And then the cheese into conspiracy theories. The entire Democratic Party pushed a conspiracy theory for three years.

When they push a conspiracy theory, they get a special counsel. A three year in instigation headlines, the media is behind them when they're right. When someone on the right says something coopy and a conspiracy theory without to get expelled, every person in that parties labeled a conspiracy theorist. Do you see how this works? This is a garbage. Adam Shift said he had evidence of Russian collusion. Here's this guy still on a he's a committee chair. You know. Rep.

Swallwell said the same thing, The man's a kook. Then he was with a Chinese spy, and the Goops focused on Marjorie Taylor Green. Why don't you tell them that if Green's expelled, we need to expel everybody who participated in the Russian collusion conspiracy theory. You all have to go to Well. I'm concerned as well that there's a there's a feeling right now within the GOP that we can buy off this ascendant totalitarian left by just you know, if we feed the crocodile a few of our own,

it'll leave us alone. This is a strategy that history and common sense should tell members of the GOP apparatus is disastrous. But I do think we're going down that pathway right now. Oh absolutely, The old crocodile will eatis les, last garbage. Look, I think a lot of these people understand that government, like the left gives government power, right, there are Republicans who are in government. They like power too. I mean it's it's seductive. So, you know, do they

really have our best interests at heart? Here? A huge government with a ton of power also gives a Republican Party power. I'm not. That's not to say that the civil society doesn't permeate the Republican Party entirely, but it seems like they try to dismiss their constituents. They don't care about, like but you know, losing gracefully. They're happy to do it. They don't want to fight. And the left or fighters, they've been fighting for one hundred years.

They've been infecting our institutions from academia, Hollywood, the administrative state for one hundred and ten years now. That's what the progressive movement has done, and the GOP have just kind of been like, oh, well, whatever, we can't say anything about that. And that's why we're in this position today. What do you think we do about the takeover institutions? Because that's really for me, that's the piece here that

has greatly magnified concerns over Yeah. Look Obama in two thousand and two thousand and nine had the Senate, had the House, and you know, we made it through that as a country. There was some very bad decision making and some damage dumb, but we made it through that as a country. But right now, when you have Biden with this as you'd say, very narrow Senate majority, but a still essentially the ability to push anything they want through the Senate if they get all Democrats on board.

Obviously they still have majority in the House. But you add to that that corporate America, and it's not just social media. I mean major companies of all kinds, major hotel chains, you know, companies that are selling you your lawnmower, whatever it may be. They're all in on wokeness now too.

So it feels like there's a magnifying, a force multiplier effect going on right now, not only of the political victories that the left has pulled off in recent months, but also the cultural and private sector muscle that they're able to bring to bear. Well, that's exactly right. And look what the left is when you know, when Trump won and we had one Republicans had the House and the Senate, and they had all three branches of government.

They fought back at the state level. They all of a sudden anytime the Left loses and the Republicans control more than two branches of government. Federalisms a thing again. States have rights again, rights we need. That's what the Republicans have to do is fight back at the state level. They control a lot of these legislatures, they control a lot of these governorships, and they need to bog this down litigation. Look, Donald Trump appointed over two hundred federal judges.

They have a case to make here and a lot of these policies in fighting back. Look, they're already starting with sanctuary gun states and so on. They don't have to support and help federal law enforcement. They don't. I mean, that's the point of some of these federalism and the tenth Amendment and the ninth Amendment is to kind of fight back against these things. And they need to take it to court. They need to fight until twenty twenty two and they can get some seven one of the

government back and reduce the administrator. State. Congress needs to take back a lot of the power they handed the executive branch. It's just become too overwhelming. So I think do you think DeSantis might get some some traction here with his efforts to push back on big tech, specifically in his state. Yes, I look, that dropped you last night. I haven't seen anything fly like that in social media in a long time. Um So, yes, I think from

a grassroots standpoint, that's huge. Whether or not you agree with it. Some conservatives may not and so on on free speech grounds, but that's what people like, and that's what they want to share, and that's what the that's what they want to be discussed right now. Big tech is a major issue in all of the censorship and sifling conservative voices is one of the biggest issues for conservatives right now. So yeah, absolutely, de Santis is making

a push for a twenty twenty four run. We'll record tell everybody Watchton Examiner dot com go check it out. Will Thanks so much, man. Thanks Buck. You're listening to the Buck Sexton Show podcast. Make sure you subscribe to the podcast on the iHeart Radio app or wherever you get your podcasts. It's maybe hard to believe we don't spend a lot of time talking about our thinking about

President Trump. Here, former President Trump to be very clear. Um. I think that's a question that's probably more appropriate for Republican members who are looking for ways to support a bipartisan package and whether that gives them space. But I can't say we miss him on twitters support the continuing the of I think that's a decision made by Twitter. We've we've certainly spoken to and he's spoken to UM the need for social media platforms to continue to take

steps to reduce hate speech. But we don't have more for you on it than that hate speech. What what hate speech is drump guilty of when it comes to election challenges, That that's now hate speech. Now, we've we've been worried about this along. We've known that the left is very because at the core of their being, I mean, to be a leftist in America today is to be somebody who believes in the necessity of control, of absolute control over other people in the name of the collective.

And you have to be a part of that collective. So you're on the winning side, and you can tell everybody who's outside the collective do this or else do this because I say so. And it's not even just about actions, it's about speech and thought. Now, as well, and this has been a long time in coming, but just be very clear, this comes from the very top the Biden administration, Joe Biden himself. They are favorable to this notion. They are They are completely on board for

censor and conservative opinions that they don't like. This is why it's it's so important, it's so essential that we find ways to finally bring about some consequence for those social media entities that are doing this. Sue them. Boycotting them isn't gonna work. Sue them, drag them into court, force them to explain why they do what they do, and then regulate them. I do a radio show or on gosh, I don't know, one hundred and eighty some odd stations now across the country. There's all kinds of

restrictions on what I can say on radio. The government involves itself there, there's FCC stuff, and there's all kinds of things that I have to be aware of. I don't just get to say whatever I want now. Politically, I get to say what I want, thank god, because radio is not yet locked down the way that the Internet is, where they can use algorithms or just individuals

who are partisans to look for certain words. I mean, there's a there have to be people actually listening to you on radio who then want to go after you for hearing your words. Whereas on social media, I mean, if you use the wrong hashtag. You know, if you used, for example, the hashtag stop the Steel a few weeks ago, they might just disable your account. I mean, you're gone, right, So think about how that influences the national conversation and

what this all means. But you know, the Republicans we have we have an uphill battle here, There's no question about it. We have an uphill battle because the left hasn't only seized the control of social media companies but corporations in general. I mean you now run a risk. You run a risk anytime you open your mouth in a company now about anything political, even on your own time, on your own dime, they may decide that they have to make an example of you and you have to

part ways. They're coming as close as possible right now. They're coming as close as they can, I should say, to outlawing conservatism. I mean, ultimately, if you really want to understand the left wing mindset, if you really want to understand how liberals think, the way they do, why they think the way they do. All you have to do is just start from the premise that if they could make your beliefs illegal, they would. I don't want

to make liberal beliefs or leftist beliefs illegal. I just disagree with them, and I think we need to have a public debate and argument about whose right and why, and let everyone know and engage in that. Intellectual freedom is the basis of human freedom, and the left seeks to destroy that. They seek to undermine that openly. Now more so than ever before in my life. You're in the freedom hunt. Thanks for listening to The buck Sexton Show podcast. Get the latest from Bucket buck Sexton dot com.

What is merit? I know, I asked the question, and you probably have an answer right away. Merit is the worthiness of some kind of achievement, or merit is proving ability and skill in a certain area, excelling among one's peers. That's what merit is. Right, if you're a and if you're a National Merit scholar, you did well enough on the SATs. Right, if you had a Meritorious service award, you were particularly good at your job or or in

your service to your country, your community. We know what the word means, but there's an effort to act like we don't actually and then it comes from the left.

They're undermining the very, the very concept of merit. And and I want to address this because you'll see so much more of this in the Biden administration, because it's also central to wokeness and the identity politics, the intersectionality beliefs of the left that we're all in this society of groups oppressing other groups, and there's a hierarchy of oppression,

and you can't just treat people as individuals. It's all about what group are they in, and the government gets to make determinations about how to make things more fair depending on what group you're in. This is where we are, right and there are all these different corollaries and different variations on this affirmative action policies, prioritizing minority and underserved groups for the vaccine even though age is the primary

characteristic for those who are at high risk. Anyway, you have this play out and in San Francisco right now. This this happens often in New York because there's a school and I'll take it to San Francisco side of this in a moment for a reason. But in New York there's a school called stuives In High School, and there are a few schools actually stives In High School, Bronx Science and Brooklyn Tech. And you get into these schools are These are public schools funded entirely by attacks.

We're part of the public school system. But admission is highly competitive based upon a test, and whoever gets certain score on the test gets the opportunity to go to these schools. And in order of difficulty to get in, it's Stives and Bronx Science, then Brooklyn Tech. So I took this test, I actually got into Stuyvesant. I didn't end up going, but I I did think about going to the gifted public school here in New York and

had that opportunity, should I have wanted it. Stuyveson, though, is is constantly criticized for being somehow racist, which is fascinating because Stiveson is over seventy percent Asian. So it's they say it's racist, but it's benefiting overwhelmingly Asian Americans in New York City. Why is that? Is it because of Asian privilege? Is it because you have so many of these so many of them are children of first

generation immigrants. You know, people that that run small businesses, that work very hard here in New York City so that they can have their child go to a place like stives in high schools. They can provide for them and push their education. And the Left doesn't like this. This is a problem for the left because their whole narrative is that there's white privilege, right, that white people don't really earn what they have in the same way that white people are part of an unfair system that

oppresses other people. But you have these different case studies where it's actually Asian Americans. If we're going to do this by race, that's what we're talking about, Asian Americans who are the greatest beneficiaries of a pure meritocracy and education. All right. In this is in New York. It's also true in San Francisco, or rather in California in general.

You've had this at the top. California State schools like Berkeley and UCLA have a very high Asian American population because it's about GPA and an SAT scores to get into those schools. They got rid years ago. Now they've brought it back of race based admissions, and so Asians skyrocketed in their numbers of admissions to these places, and there was a drop, but not a major drop in admissions of black and Latino students in these schools. That's

what ended up happening. Well, now you have a situation with the Lowell High School in San Francisco. This was from NBC News quote. The San Francisco School Board might junk grade and testing requirements for its nationally acclaimed Lowell High School, which has long been enlightening rod for issues

of race in education. The school is the San Francisco Unified School District's only nine through twelve campus that uses a formula of grades and standardized test scores for admission of most students, but that might change because of a

resolution presented by board members this week. The proposal calls for a random lottery for admission to Lowell, which is majority who wants to guess Asian American, to replace the current grade and test system, which allegedly excludes students of color and perpetuates the opportunity gap is destroying the actual language we use to describe these things. The opportunity gap is not destroy by having a school that gives some

students who are excelling an opportunity. Particularly we're talking about Asian American students. I don't think anybody is running around talking about Asian privilege quite yet, but maybe they will. But if you want to know what kind of we're welly in nonsense is being spewed by people who are commissioners of the San Francisco Public school system, here is And I want you to listen very closely to what she says. One of these commissioners in San fran Out

in California, Alison Collins, talking about merit play one. Well, when we talk about merit, meritocracy, and especially meritocracy based on standardized testing, I'm just gonna say it, in this

day and age, we cannot miss words. Those are racist systems. Well, if you're going to say that merit, you know, is like fair, it's it's the antithesis of fair, and it's the antithesis of just And so you know, you can't use equity or you can't you know, talk about social justice and then say that you want to have a selective school that keeps certain kids out from the neighborhoods that you think are dangerous, Like that's all kind of Trumpian language, and in San Francisco, I'm proud to be

a member of the board, and I'm proud of our families and our student leaders, and I'm you know, I don't think we should be shy about naming those things. Okay, well, let's actually talk about this, miss Allison Collins. Let's let's really dig into what she says here. Standardized tests or racist? Now that's where we are. Oh, okay, how are we supposed to measure educational achievement? Is educational achievement ever an objective thing? Are some kids better at math than others?

Do some kids read with greater skill and speed and fluency? Read and write with greater skill, speed, and fluency than others? Yes? Or no? Is there any way at all to measure these things? Are some kids better students than other kids? Are some kids smarter than other kids? Is there are these real things? Or not? Because if real and we can measure them, then what is she really saying? What

is her point? If San Francisco says that there's there's a test that's open that to anybody who wants to go to this school, and it's going to measure your ability in these subjects and it's essentially made the best man or woman or this kid of this case made the best you know, boy or girl. When what's the problem with that? Why is that an issue? Well, because it doesn't have the representational representational conclusions here that they want.

It does not have enough black and brown students, as they say, that's that's the problem. Now there's a majority of Asian students. But they're going to say it's white privilege and Trumpian language somehow. Hold on, how is that? How is it a Trumpian thing for a lot of Asian kids to excel in the San Francisco school district and at the same the exact same situation that plays out here in New York City with stives in high school?

Why is there racism here? You're going to tell me that some kid who has parents who just got here first generation immigrants from Vietnam and who came here penniless, he does he have some big advantage over his black and brown peers. If so, I'd like to know what it is. You know, but that the Democrats they do this, They pander and they talk around the issue. They speak

around the issue. They won't actually say what they're really saying, which is that they just view standardized tests as racist. We'll explain that while are standardized test racist, aren't there members of the black and brown community who do it incredibly well on standardized tests too. Of course there are so in what way are they racist now that they

just say this? But you're going to see so much more of it because merit itself as a concept, if it does not support the victimology and oppression narratives of the left, merot itself as a concept is under attack. There's no such thing as achievement. You didn't build that, You didn't take that test and get such a high score. Right, It's not about you, It's about society. It's about your privilege.

I have to give credit to Tucker Carlson. I thought it was a brilliant insight he had on his show last night when he said, you know, you'll never hear Jeff Bezos, You'll never hear George Soros, these white billionaires who fund all this wokeness and fund all this left wing insanity, you never hear about their white privilege. And these are the most privileged people in real terms, in a real way, in the whole world. This is about power.

What you're seeing in dynamics of power. People that will put principle aside, will even change the plain meaning of language in their pursuit of power. That's what's actually happening here, right. It is not right to penalize Asian students, predominantly Asian students at this school because they are better at academics than some of their peers in other minority groups. That's

not fair, that's not rooted in any principle. That's just what the left wants, because the left wants to tell communities that are struggling academically, or students that are struggling academically in San Francisco. In this case, then it's not the it's not their problem, it's not their fault. It's not up to them. It's society, and it's society oppressing them. Somehow. Society doesn't oppress these Asian students though, And we never

get an explanation as to why that is. It's still white privilege, even though the privilege is really going to Asians. Why is that? We should We should ask Commissioner Colleges, But she would say, oh, it's Trumpian language. Trump's not even president anymore. No, one's even heard from a guy in weeks. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. Follow Buck on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter. I think that what we're doing to poor kids is a disgrace. These poor

kids are not in school. They will never recover from this, and they had a bad education experience. Anyways, we have not had good schools for poor kids, and this now is just so much worse. The President has to stand up to the unions and teacher unions, teachers teachers unions, you know, the teachers say, well, I don't want to go back because it's dangerous. We have a lot of city and state and federal employees who run risks. That's

part of the job. You run risks to help America, to help your state, to help your city, to help your family. And there's just no reason not to have the schools open. The virtual classes are a joke. It is worse than a joke. Poor people don't have iPads, they don't have WiFi, they don't have somebody at home to sit during the day and force the child to pay attention. And without that, the virtual learning just does not exist. And the teachers unions you see in Chicago

and in New York. We've had problems. It's time for Joe Biden to stand up and say the kids are the most important things important to players here, and the teachers just are going to have to suck it up and stand up and provide an education. Otherwise these kids have no chance whatsoever. Stephanie, it is a disaster what's happening to them. Everything that Minnie Mike Bloomberg here is

saying is true. So this is why I do separate it sometimes out between lunatic, incompetent Democrats and competent but wrong on some things Democrats. You know, there's there's the sort of AOC wing of the Democrat Party which is just coming up with crazy ideas that are disastrous, that that won't work, that they couldn't even implement. It's just a it's just a mess. I mean, the whole thing

is stupidity on steroids. And then there's the Mike Bloomberg Democrat Party or Mike Bloomberg's within the Democrat Party, who yes, he's a he can be a little can be a little tyrannical, he's antisecond amendments. He doesn't want you to drink a big soda, but you know, if he's gonna tell the city workers that they got to clean up the streets and get the trash off the streets, he's

pretty good at that. He's pretty good at that. And I've always said, you know, Bloomberg's Bloomberg's tenure in New York City was a golden age, a golden age because on things that shouldn't really be about politics, it's about results. He was pretty solid back the NYPD kept in place good NYPD policies. See that that's what ultimately politics is the debate to get to the results right. And what I want are the good results for the American people.

What I want are good results for you know, folks across the country that they're safer, happier, more secure, and are able to pursue happiness in their own way, better in places because of decisions that are being made by those in authority, because the system is working and functioning,

auctioning reasonably well around them. So Bloomberg, for all the criticism and I got a lot of criticism of Bloomberg that we could spend another another day, another time getting into he's not an idiot, is a very smart man, and he knows how to make things happen, and he's saying that this zoom learning in the public schools thing is a disaster, which of course it is. But what not? Now here's where we get to where, Here's where ideology

blinds him? What is the flaw everything he said? He's assessment of the problems within the school system right now, particularly for underprivileged kids because of the COVID lockdowns. His assessment was absolutely correct. What's the problem with what he said? Where does it all fall apart? Oh? When he says, you know, Biden's going to need to stand up and he's going to need to stand up to the unions, that's never going to happen. The Democrats are owned by

these teachers union. Democrat politicians will never cross the teachers unions. At best, they're going to try to negotiate, try to beg and plead with the unions. Hey guys, you're really hurting the brand. Dear, you're making things harder for us. Come on, please, please please. They're never going to call them out for this. The teachers unions aren't abomination. There should be no such thing as teachers unions. They should not exist. They are public sector unions that should be disbanded.

But Democrats get huge they get huge donations from them, all kinds of benefits from them, and they protect teachers from accountability, and they protect these bureaucrats and they're little perks that work for these unions, so they're able to do this and the children are suffering. It is children last in the Democrat party. When you're looking at what these unions are doing, it is very clear. It is obvious that that's what's happening, and there should be far more,

far more anger about this. LORI lightfoot those telling you guess what they're gonna do, now, what they're gonna say about who's to blame play twenty. So, look, this is a very difficult situation and we're in it still because of the competence of the previous administration. So I think it's important for both sides to come to the table in good faith, recognize that we're both trying to work through a very challenging situation, but we must get a

deal done. So I've tried to say, let's cool down, let's lower the temperature, but let's focus on bridging the divide in the remaining issues so we can get a deal done and those seventy thousand plus parents who said I want to come back to in person for my student if they have the option to do so. Yeah, they're blaming Trump, folks. It's Trump's fault that the Chicago teachers unions refuse to be reasonable. Yeah. Sure. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. Follow Buck on Facebook, Instagram,

and Twitter. It's February. They got vaccines and distribution and we have lockdown still going on. When is this going to end? When is this going to change? In New York and in the rest of the country. We got our friend Carol Markowitz. She's a commist for the New York Post. She joins us now she's been one of the fighters on this issue. Carol, great to have you back. Thank you for having me Buck. So let's start with this.

You see that that fauci's now saying it's possible the CDC might actually change its recommendation that we need to double mask now that we actually might be heading. And I say this as somebody who's been making fun of this for months but kind of knowing that it's coming, and now it's now it's real, just like I thought, just like you thought it would be. Yeah, yeah, I think you've been at the forefront of it. I definitely was more like, that's funny, that's never going to happen.

But yeah, you were predicting it for a while. I don't know. I think two masks is irresponsible. I think it had to be eight or more. It's it's just that's where our baseline should be. I keep telling people that if the if the new theory is anything that could even theoretically reduce even one covid K, can be

a government mandate. They should limit how many times, how many times a minute you're allowed to breathe and if you got to hold your breath sometimes because every time you breathe out, that's when you're expelling the virus theoretically, so so we should mandate breath for everybody. Now, I mean, we're getting we're getting so crazy and and Carol, here

here's my problem. Yeah, I know I worry I say this stuff out loud there, I'd say, well, we should have goggles because you know, virus from coming through your eyes. They've actually brought that up briefly in the past too, these so called experts. Um when is when is society? I worry that there are a lot of people who, you know, the people that are so afraid that they can't think straight. There are the people that just don't admit that they were wrong, so they're never going to

change their opinions. But now I'm also thinking maybe there are a lot of people who kind of like this new normal of like limited human contact, order your food, other you know, essential workers make and bring your food to you, you sit on zoom calls. I think that's part of it. Absolutely. I call those people that jama class. And I'm in that pajama class. I worked from home. I've worked from home before the pandemic, so I totally

get it. My life was We're doing food on see lives and you know, having everything brought to me and it's nice. But you know, I'm sure people are liking it. But let's not pretend that we're in anything really resembling a lockdown when this is happening because people are working. It's just not this pajama class that's working and they like it that way. Well, this is what I've been

saying too. I get so angry, Carol when people tell me I have a friend right now who's basically fled the US to Australia, and his whole thing is Australia did this. Australia did this right, you know, and America should have done like Australia, doesn't. I say, well, hold on a second, and therefore what really should have happened here is that we should have had the kind of lockdowns that Australia did. But let me start with the

few things. We're one twentieth the population. We have thirty times the population density of Australia in the United States, believe or not. I mean, it's Australia is not a densely populated place at all. And you know, you addle these things up. But then also we've never been we people keep saying lockdown works, lockdown works. Then I keep saying, yeah, but we don't even really we do. We get all the pain and none of the upside, because, as you say,

there are still people. There are essential workers all over the place. The New York City Subway is still running. There are people who are getting infected, they're going out, they're doing these things. But we shut down some businesses and some opportunities for people, and it's just all it's just all made up as we go along. Absolutely, and you know. The other thing is as soon as you

come out of the lockdown, it comes back. It's not like Australia is having this where we keep harving cases at the quarantine hotels because high people are coming in with it. So unless you're planning to just lockdown your country really definitely and not allow any visitors whatsoever, not allow any business entity to go on, you're going to have cases. And I keep saying also, it's no lockdowns work.

Sure lockdowns works. If we never come out of our houses, we won't get coronavirus, but somebody's data leave their house, so that's where it's going to spread. And it's just it's unrealistic. I feel like there's nothing scientific based anymore. It's all completely what you feel. And our elected officials reflect that. I mean, nobody feels more than Governor Como and governor you know, Gavin Newsom there the two biggest like make decisions based on their emotions kind of leaders.

And you're absolutely right, because what's crazy is people like it. Yeah, I've been surprised by I've been able to predict with the bureaucrats and what the so called medical establishment because it's always just you're always seeing just one little, you know, the tip of the iceberg. With the actual medical establishment.

There are so many doctors that talk to who are horrified at the school closures, who say that masks were Yeah, maybe it helps if it's one of you know, ten other things you're doing, and you're doing it perfectly, and you're doing it all the time. You know. It's like there's so much out there that never gets talked about from the medical community too. But the part of this, Carol that I haven't been, that I had not been able to anticipate, was and I see this here in

New York, how many people are like, no, this is okay. Actually, I think we continue. I think we continue like this as long as we have to. I'm not I'm not that bothered by this lockdown. I'm still getting paid. People bring me my food. And you know, I didn't like the outdoors that much anyway. I live in New York. That that's really what There's a lot of people like that. Yeah, absolutely,

it's terrifying. I don't know, the worst thing for me, being a parent of three public school children, is I was summer there would be riots in the streets when they didn't open schools, and then I was really sure there riots in the streets when they opened only private schools but not public schools. But no one cares. It's crazy to me, and I just I don't I don't know how to get through to these people, like they have stopped educating your children, Like maybe we should care

about this, but nobody does. And I don't know. I looked like when I see protests in Europe, like Europe is out freedoming to us, that's crazy me, and yet here we are. Yeah. I mean, if you've seen even in what's going on in the Netherlands, they've had really intense, really serious anti lockdown protests going on there. It's happened in some other in other countries as well. But I'm I'm shocked. I mean, it's it's one of the things that I've still been trying to wrap my mind around.

I figured at some point, you know, my fellow New Yorkers. I know I'm outvoted by them, you know, eight or nine to one, my Democrats, but I thought they'd say, okay, guys, the science is in schools absolutely should be open. But no, a lot of Democrats are like, hey, I'm just gonna watch MSNBC and listen to talking points about how the teachers unions are just representing the interests of their constituents

and their safety. It's like, no, they're actually holding people's families, holy people's children hostage so that they can sit at home. And I mean, I'm so sick of people saying, oh, the teachers are worried. Most teachers are in their twenties and thirties in the public school system. Okay, the majority of them are not, are not even close to being at risk. And then some get vaccinated and refuse to go back and teach after they're vaccinated. Right, it's a travesty.

I don't know. And you're talking about those people, you know, I'll just stay home and watch. Yeah, while they were nanny takes their kids to their pod. We're gonna have a private tutor and like their kids are gonna be fine. Um, the rest of the kids aren't. And it's this gulf is going to be just insurmountable. I don't know what's going to happen, but I don't know how kids who didn't go to school for a year are going to compete with kids who went to school every day. And

have a normal existence. And it's and those people don't live far away. You can have kids and queens who didn't go to school, kids in Long Island who did, and they're gonna be like two miles apart, and it's going to be clear which one is like on a path to success and which one is. And another thing for me, and this is really where i've the things that I saw that are happening, or the things that I knew that would be bad. But it's the absence of the corrective, the absence of the of the backlash

to those things. Right like when when when, when I've been at you know this, I've been saying, they're gonna say double masking and they're gonna say a ninety five masks too. I've been saying that since the summertime, said just wait, that's where when they don't, when this doesn't work the way they promised us it would, that'll be this the goal post shift. And we are in the

middle of that right now. I figured, Okay, well I saw it, but at least people would say, well, now I realize this guy Fauci is a moron, and like this is just all about control and he's making it up his Nope, people are like, oh, you're right, double you know the way that they'll just all of a sudden turn on a dime and say, okay, even if even if what you know, what should be clear now is clear to people, they don't react the way I thought they would and or the way they thought a

lot of people would. And now I mean with with the school issue and with the state issue even I mean, look at you know, I know you're in Florida. You know you're a New Yorker, but you're down in Florida. At the meantime, I've been down in Florida a few times as well. DeSantis straight up says now in press conferences,

Lockdown's failed, right, and the data supports him. But somehow we can't get the country to focus on this for a second and say, hold on, we ran the experiment here and Florida one right, Yeah, there's no sanity around that. You know, you pointed out New Yorkers are very liberal. I'm a lifelong New Yorker, you're a lifelong new Yorker. We're not waiting for our city to become conservative, right,

Like that's just not going to happen. But I really it's broken me how much I've seen New Yorkers not be sane during this process, and it's really it's changed my perception of my city and of my neighbors, of the fellow residents, because I saw something that I can't unsee, which is that they completely lost track of sanity and they engaged in conspiracy theories about places like Florida, where they were following the science and where the numbers are clear,

and you just couldn't wrap their minds around it. And it's really tough for me to imagine a future in New York because of it. I love New York. I really never wanted to move anywhere else. We're going to raise our kids in Brooklyn and retire to Manhattan. But I don't know that I cann't see what I saw this last year. We're speaking to Carol Markowitz. She's a a columnist for The New York Post, writing a lot about lockdowns, particularly the school closures issue that's been going on. Carol,

I want to ask about the Governor Cuomo. Um. You know, on the one hand, I'm running around giving Rond de Santis high fives whenever I can, because you know, he's the results because of results, because of what's actually happened in his state. You know, their tax their tax revenues up three hundred million dollars. Think about that in a pandemic here. And meanwhile you look at the the Cuomo side of the equation. Why is it that all of a sudden, you know, is it because they'd rather have

Leticia James as the governor of New York? You know, she came out with this reporter that the nursing homes. It feels a little bit like the left has started, the Democrats have started to turn on Cuomo. Is it because they just can't prop up the lies anymore? Or you think there's something else working here? What changed? I do think they can't prop up the lines anymore. I think the facts are the facts, and I don't think that they can get around it for too much longer.

They still will try. Let's be clear here. You know, even with that report, I haven't seen sort of the outrage. Imagine that report came out about Governor de Santisa Florida. That would just be wall to wall news like sure, CNN covered the report, but do they make it an all day story? Did MSNBC do that, of course not,

but they would have if he was a Republican. So and the thing that you know, you and I keep coming back to is he still enjoys a very high level of support in New York and that's very hard to get around. So when he does crazy things like announces, you know, three or four days ago that restaurants will open on February fourteenth, you know, weeks into the future, nobody's saying, wait a minute, what changes between now and then?

Where Where is the city council members who to stand up for their own districts and say, these restaurants in my district are closing, they have closed, They don't need two more weeks of closure. We could just open them right now. You know, where is CNN? Where is MS ABC? Where does anybody used to say these policies don't make

any sense and they're just not They're not around one there. Yeah, you know, I was gonna say, what one part of this that's also been really really troubling to me, And it's why, for the first time in my life, I really do consider permanently um, you know, changing changing residents here at leite, meaning leaving the city or the state,

and I've been here really almost my entire life. I mean, I had to go for work a couple of times elsewhere, but it's because I had always felt like, you know, New York was the example of a place where there were some things where politics were more or less either put aside, or you could say it became truly bipartisan, making a cleaner, safer, better city that people all over the world wanted to visit, That businesses were thriving in, that people wanted to come to that you know, rents

were skyrockman, that part of it. You know, it was not great for us, but you know, it was indicative of the supplying demand of people wanting to be here, wanting to be in this city, and understanding that Okay, you know we don't always have to have you know, the fights about religious freedom and all those things with our with our fellow New Yorkers, we could put that aside for a second and say we all agree we

want safe streets, clean streets, good schools. With the pandemic, it's turned into yeah, I know we're suffering, and this is idiotic and this and the and the city's deteriorating, but we're still going to support our Democrat you know, leadership. Yeah, and that's where I feel like, Okay, well now we got to draw a line, right, that's absolutely right, and it's been heading sort of in that direction, but the pandemic just brought it to, you know, to the front um.

I think so much of what's been happening in New York for the last couple of years has been the slide. But the thing is, it's it's very easy to ignore say a mayor Bill de Blasio, when times are good whatever he wants to take money from the rich due to the poor, and like he can make any proclamation you want. But when he when when times are bad, I think all of that incompetence really is more noticeable.

It's easy to be a bad leader when things are going well, and that's what this leadership in New York has had for a while. But now things aren't and they can't well. I think also California I was considered ahead of New York on this on this timeline of how long it takes to ruin a place that is gifted with a lot of wealth and talent and history, and just you know, California was like it was like the was the American dream. Really in the eighties. I mean you and I grew up. We're close to the

same age. All the movies were setting. You know, everybody wanted to be a kid growing up in like you know, Pasadena or Santa Monica or you know whatever. That was like the height of America. And now people are fleeing California for Nevada, for for Colorado, for Idaho, for Texas. Now people are fleeing you know, New York, which was the greatest city in the world. They're fleeing for Florida and North Carolina and all the and I mean this is where this is. It takes time for a Cuomo,

a Newsom, a Deblasio to ruin a place. But they've had some time, Carol. Yeah, and they had it sped up for them with the pandemic. But yeah, absolutely, they've had some time. It's crazy that people like me and you are thinking of leaving and that they're not doing anything about it. I just I don't understand how they just accept that they're seeing this migration out of the

state and not doing anything. Yeah, it's like they don't well, I guess they just figured they're gonna federally they're gonna push for more federal income tax and redistribute the wealth that way. But Carol Mark, whit's everybody, Carol, stay warmed down there in Florida. And thanks so much for joining us from the New York Post. Thanks so much. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. Join the conversation and message Buck on Facebook, Instagram, or email Team Bucket iHeartMedia

dot com. He may read it on the show. Well, let me say, worried about President Baden's executive orders on all in Gash right, they are immeasurably foolish. They're gonna gut Luciana like a fish. One third of my state's GDP. It's related to all in gash and our state is not alone. His war on all and gas is gonna hurt America. It's gonna hurt America. It's gonna hurt individual

Americans a whole lot, and they don't care. And this is what you need to understand we're up against here, that this is the real the Democrat administration that we are currently faced with. A Biden administration is very ideologically driven. It is the apparatus of the left that's who's making

the decisions. That's who is in charge. So Joe Biden can go and do his whole oh you know, rull up a sleeves and I was you know, you know, I was a guy who's friends with the coal miners and all this stuff that he says, I mean, all the nonsense stories that Joe Biden's always telling people. You can do that as much as he wants. At the end of the day, the Democrat Party is a far left progressive entity now that would be unrecognizable the Democrats

fifty years ago, even thirty years ago. And here we are with executive orders that are going to have really negative that are really gonna hurt people. I mean, he's hurting people. He's hurting people because they believe in all the scary climate change the CO two in the big

sky is gonna come down on Austin. So they're absurd quasi religious belief about the end of the world coming because of CO two in the air, which is just bonkers, is making them feel justified in taking actions that are gonna make people not able to pay their bills, kind of kick people out of their homes, shutter businesses, and there's real pain, there's real misery that comes from this. There's real problems that this creates. They just don't care

price they're willing to pay. This is like a cult belief and the Democrat the Democrats always said that Trump was a cult and all this stuff. Now you see we move on now, and conservatives we're looking looking to the future and trying to figure out what we're gonna do here. For Democrats, it's you cannot you cannot deviate, You cannot do anything other than nod your head, bend the knee, and degree with the climate change cult. It

is absolutely mandatory. You're listening to the Buck Sexton Show podcast, make sure you subscribe to the podcast on the iHeart Radio app or wherever you get your podcasts. Like Soft Butter on Warm Toast. It's time to spread some freedom from coast to coast. It's time for roll Call. You know they're doing they're doing a Buck Rogers. This surrounds you some sort of space show or so. You know they're doing a Buck Rogers remake. You hear about this.

I don't even know who Buck Rogers is, Captain William buck Rogers. It's gonna They're gonna be there's gonna be a new this is, according to Den of Geek, which is the place I should probably be hanging out. Um Buck Rogers coming back. Legendary Entertainment is snagged the movie rights to the ninety two year old character, and Buck Rogers brought sci fi elements like ray guns, rocket ships, lasers, and jet packs in a popular culture. According to Den

of Geek. Here with the prop He's vision of the future an emphasis on action and adventure, influencing everything from Disney's Tomorrowland attraction to George Lucas's original concept for Star Wars. The movie will bring Buck all the way back to his roots by adapting Armageddon twenty four nineteen, a d nineteen twenty eight novella in which the character made his debut, written by Philip Francis Nolan and published in the iconic

pulp fiction magazine Amazing Stories. So the tale follows the adventures of Anthony Rodgers Buck Rogers, a World War One veteran who's investigating strange phenomena in an abandoned Pennsylvania coal mine for his company, the American Radioactive Gas Corporation. When he's trapped by a cave in, Rogers falls into suspended animation and reawakens four hundred and ninety two years later in the twenty fifth century, Boom Buck Rogers. You know

what I'm excited about this producer Mark. I don't even know the Buck Rogers stuff, like, I don't even know about it. But do you know why I'm excited? Because Buck exactly, and we need we need a new person so that when I say my name is Buck. This is what happens to me in life. I say, someone says, excuse me, sir, I'm at Starbucks and I and they, you know, they say, what's your name? And I say, oh, my name is My name is Buck. They say, okay, Bob.

Happens all the time, and I'm like, this, Buck really sound that much like Bob. But anyway, okay Bob, and they write, you know, they're about to write Bob, but no, no no, no no, it's Buck. And then they'll and then the staff will look at me and say, like, uncle Buck. That needs to change. Buck Rogers is a space age superhero and that's the association we want. I mean, hopefully one day it'll be like Buck Sexton the radio host, but for right now, it's, uh, we gotta get away

from Uncle Buck. I mean, you'd rather than call you Bob or uncle Buck than the other thing that your name rhymes with. Thanks, Mark, Thanks, appreciate, appreciate that, buddy. You know, yeah, I'm saying it could be worse, That's what. Yeah, thanks, It could be worse. It could be worse. Yes, I remember the name game as a child Buck Bucko. It could be worse. Yeah, don't don't say that on the radio, please, Yeah, Buck buck bow Buck Fanana Fane. We all remember how

that went. So anyway, obviously really reliving now child childhood traumas on the radio. But I saw this Buck Rogers thing and I was kind of excited about it. Um uh, producer Mark, any any news from from Markland this week? Just? Uh? You know, do you have you made your pick for the Super Bowl yet? Have I asked you? You haven't. I don't think I have yet. Who who is gonna win? I'm leaning towards the Chiefs, but you know what, I wouldn't be shocked if the Buccaneers won either. This is

gonna be a great game. Tom Brady is uh, He's an American icon, that's for sure. But this Mahomes character is also apparently a just I think he's way to being an American icon if he if he's not already, he's if his career goes as expected, you know, he keeps up this pace, he'll be the best quarterback of all time. That's pretty astonishing. So all right, it'll be it'll be a good game. We'll check it out. What now,

let's talk some Super Bowl dishes. What are the what are the go tos in the Mark household for Super Bowl? What do you have to add? Well, my wife always makes for any big game buffalo chicken dip, which is heaven on earth. But have you ever had anything like it? No? I mean it sounds good. What is it? You basically shred up some chicken breasts, put some cream cheese, hot sauce, and I think there's a few other ingredients, other cheeses.

Mix it up, put it in the oven for an hour or so, comes out perfect, just some chips on the side, whatever else you want. Yeah, you know, it's amazing how many how many dishes there are that I've eaten in the past, and then when I figure out how you make them, you know what the secret ingredient is? Cream cheese. Cream cheese makes almost anything taste better. Like any recipe where they but there's cream cheese, You're like,

I'll eat that, you know what? You know what I'm saying, Yeah, there's almost nothing I won't eat with cream cheese in it, exactly. I mean people even any cream cheese and sushi for heaven's sakes, right the Philadelphia role, Yeah, cream cheese and anything makes it better. So that's that's one of those things where at any recipe I see that, I go, oh, okay, this will this will be kind of a good one.

We tend to do barbecue in the in the Sexton family for for Super Bowl purposes, So anything's with a barbecue, barbecue, ribs, chicken, brisket obviously we know I'm a big fan of brisket, and I'm hoping I'm gonna cook really a beautiful steak for myself this weekend at some point too. That's something I've got on the You're the one who while the game's going on, cooking the steak everyone else is watching the game and then show Yeah of course, yeah, well

who's doing the halftime the weekend right? Tell me this? Yes, And he doesn't spell his name like an actual weekend right, I don't think so. I'm not very familiar with this. It's like wk n D or something like that. It's definitely I'm not I'm not into the contemporary music these days. I think that music is just keeps getting worse every year. And I know that's a grumpy, get off my lawn kind of thing to say, but I think music is just in this constant state of decline in this country

these days. Yeah, there's very few new artists that I like. There's artists that have been around a long time that still make new music that I like, but there's nobody that's you know, last couple of years. When was the last time you heard about a new band that you're like, These guys are awesome. I want to go download all their songs. Oh, I can't think of one. But it's been forever for me. I mean I can't even you know,

like ten or fifteen years at this point. Anyway, all right, bucking Mark's grump corner, We're gonna move on here to to what the folks have to say in the roll call. Please remember, I got to buckxxon dot com. Sign up for our newsletter that we're gonna be putting out. You gotta give us emails. We're gonna the more emails we get, the more newsletters we can put out. That's how we

do it. Let's get to it. Brian, Hey, bucking Mark, my wife and I went to Florida for the New Year's holiday from Michigan so we can enjoy some freedom for a change. I couldn't agree with you more. I'm moving to Florida. We left there already looking for jobs and house. Luckily we both have careers. We can get a job anywhere. It's nice. They have a governor and a government that does its best to protect its citizens from the federal government. Just one favor, I asked, stop

talking up Florida. I'd like to be able to afford a house down there. Shield's Eye. Fellow patriots and Brian people have been telling me that they're like, shud, don't you know only we only want Republicans going. I'm like, well, who are you think listening to this show? Were conservatives? Right? I mean, so there are some Democrats, and welcome to Democrat Democrat team. Buck, You're always welcome. I think there's not that many of you, but you know, people are

gotta move. They gotta move down to Florida. The ones that are leaving these blue states. Hopefully they all understand why they're leaving and why they wouldn't want that to be replicated down in Florida. So I'm I'm very bullish, very bullish on Florida. I own property in Florida through my friends. It done for your real estate, so you know, I'm all about it. I think Florida's Florida's the future. It really is, and we wanted to be a conservative utopia to the degree it can be. I know there's

a lot of Democrats in Florida. It's you know, probably forty nine fifty one or something now Republican Democrat. But as long as it stays stays in the in the red column, you can have, I mean all this sort of stuff. You can own a gun procer Mark. You know, my brother's down there tell me that the gun laws are basically, oh, you want to go get a concealed carry permit, Great, you can, and it's got reciprocity in

like a few dozen states. In New York, if you want to get a gun permit, they're like, you're it's suspicious. The police here, like, what do you mean you want it? You want to conceal carry permit. We're not going to give you that. Why do you need that? That's what they say here in Florida. They're like, of course, you're an American, go get yourself a gun. It's amazing. Have you ever been shooting? Mark? I have not. I've never shot a gun. I don't even ever ever held a gun. Wow, Buddy,

I mean born and raised in New York. Yeah, if the flu well, no, I know that's that. The people can't even imagine that here. I mean, yeah, if you have a gun in New York, chains are you're either a copper criminal. There's very few. There's very little in between. Very few people in New York City. I mean there are some, but very few have a legal firearm here. Mark. We'll have to take you shooting at some point, buddy, Yeah, absolutely, once we get Yeah, there are there are those places.

It's kind of like Vegas. There are these places where you can go and pay to shoot a machine gun and it seems all cool and stuff, but that's not It's much more fun to go and actually, you know, shoot a pistol that you own, or go with a friend and you know shoot a shoot an aar or something and really work on your your marksmanship and your your basic firearm skills because those machine gun places they charge you a ton of money and they basically hold

the gun while you hold it like you're a little kid, and they let you just depress the trigger and it goes blah blah blah blah blam for a second, and then it costs you like four hundred dollars. So those are not I had to take some some clients once when I was out or you know, people for for

business purposes. When I was in Vegas, we went to one of these places, and it's an experience, but I was like, I don't want to fire ten rounds with the squad automatic weapon, Like I want to have the squad automatic weapon for the afternoon with you know, hundreds of rounds and you know, really, and that was not a that was not how it went down. So we'll take we'll take your shooting at some point. It's a it's a good experience. It's experience everybody should have. Yeah,

and you also appreciate. But I will say this, once you've actually shot a gun, Mark and you watch movies and you see these guys who were like do a back flip and then three rolls on the ground and with their left hand turn their pistol sideways and they shoot a guy. They shoot the bad guy in the forehead from you know, two hundred yards away from a moving helicopter. You're gonna be like, I don't think that's

how it really happens. That's because it's not. That's the very hard Actually, that's one of the big critiques always of twenty four is how does Jack Bahar never run out of ammo and how does he shoot at those weird angles all the time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's I'm sure I haven't eve seen twenty four, but I'm sure that's all very true. So it's something I mean, it's very entertaining. But I'm sure for somebody like you, you

would just point out the inaccuracies. I used to have that, but I'm so long out of that world in the CIA and everything that I feel like now I'm I watched this almost like I watched it like a civilian. Now I'm like, heah, whatever, But there was a time and I was like, that's not how that would go, Like, that's not the way we would write that report up, and blah blah, blah everything. I was like, I was

that guy. That's actually what I do. Anytime there's like a show that involves TV news, like behind the scenes in the control room, they're like, well, that's not how it's supposed to go. No stuff like that. Yeah, nope, yeah, yeah, a lot of a lot of at least back in the day, a lot of a lot of profanity in the actual control room for news shows going on, because

I think that was just back in the day. Yeah. Still, so that that's one thing people would need to get used to, all right, Maureen, Hey Bucket producer Mark, love you guys, and I love your embrace of the flip flops around the clock. Buck I'm a coastal California girl, so flip or year round here, even in the rain. I laughed at producer Marks reluctant to be that laid back though he's seriously East coast. But I'm totally with the producer Mark on the Birkenstocks. Just say no, Bucks,

step away from the Birkenstocks. Flip flops, no problem. Pajama pants maybe, but birkenstocks, no way. And with socks on, dear god, no. Um. So she's she's agreeing with you on the on the Birkenstocks. But now now I just want to be defiant and rock the rock the Birks, you know what I mean. I mean I could if you grew your hair out a lot more and like let the beard go, didn't trim it for a while,

then war broken Stocks, I could see it. Yeah. No, you would look mightily homeless and like you just went to um, Who's a Grateful Dead concert? Yeah? But oh yeah, the yeah yeah yeah. And Jerry Garcia, right, he's he's not alive anymore, right, isn't No, he's not? Yeah, fish yeah another one, ye oh yeah. People love that stuff.

I never understood the appeal of fish, but people said it was like the greatest live expeeds every man like you just to see you just dropped some acid, You see all the colors, You smoke a little weed, you eat some ice cream. And I was always I don't know, I don't do any of those things except accepted ice cream. Unfortunately, so they would sell out the garden for two weeks at a time, Madison Square Garden. That's amazing, that's amazing.

They were. They were a really successful music act, So I'm not surprised to hear that this is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. Join the conversation and message Buck on Facebook, Instagram, or email Team Bucket iHeartMedia dot com. He may read it on the show. Ray is next up here. Hey, Buck, I'm a faithful daily listener from the communist state of Minnesota. I find your podcast to be entertaining and insightful. I know we're looking our wounds over the election and the

censorship by big tech. Always remember the left will overreach because they are tyrants and it's in their DNA shields. High Well, Ray, thank you so much, and I really appreciate that you find this show entertaining and insightful. And yeah, we are in a little bit of a we're in a regrouping phase right now. Let's just let's just accept and be honest about that. That's what that's where conservatism is right now. We are in a regrouping moment here. But we will do so, we will get we will

get to a better place here right now. I know it feels even a little hopeless for some folks, but don't worry about it. It's going to get better. I got to be an optimist. Sometimes we're figure it all out we'll figure it out together. Katie. I've only recently started listening to you. I really appreciate your high road approach and how you tie events and new stories to

the bigger picture. From what I've heard so far, your discussions are really about who is right, so fleeting, emotional and subjective, but what is right a more rational discussion and approach Shield's high. Well, thank you Katie for your astute observations about the show, and we certainly aspire to that.

Try to try to make this as much about Look, this is always I mean, all all news is a form of brain engagement that is also entertainment, right, I mean, learning is entertaining, and anything where you're getting new information entertains a part of your brain. But we try to make this as as substantive as I possibly can and get to the why and the what matters as as quickly as I can every day and as much as

I can every day. Well also, you know, making fun of Bernie Sanders accent and do another silly thing sometimes. So we got a lot going on. But I'm glad you appreciate this show, and thank you very much for listening. Brian Buck and Mark, I hope you guys are well. I just flew home from working a boat show in Palm Beach and it was everything I thought it could be. Really hope you guys are permanently getting down the Delray

Beach sooner than later. Florida is filling up fast. Anyway, news hit that about the CCP no longer recognizing the British Overseas Passport, which is essentially meaning three hundred thousand people are fleeing Hong Kong for the UK. My gut tells me that's only a matter of time until the CCP consumes Taiwan, like soon they know they can make their move with effeckless and compromise Biden administration, who will

do nothing. Could you do a deep dive on Taiwan and if they are to remain independent from CCP, Brian, I am interested in doing that, and so let me think about how we could bring more information about that to the forefront, because this is that's a major geopolitical event that I think is seeming increasingly increasingly likely and not not certain, but likely, and that would have huge ramifications. I mean that China officially taking Taiwan would have a

lot of ramifications all over the world. Rannon Shields II. Buck, I want to say thank you for the show you do and you tell the truth and you tell it how it is, and I consider you a friend too. Thank you. Also look forward to listening to your show each day. Then it goes to Rush, oh Rihanna, thank you so much. And I'm in great company there with the one and only, the truly great Rush Limbaugh. So

thank you. You've got excellentation in radio shows, that's for sure, and team that's gonna be it for me for today. Please do pass the buck, tell somebody in your life about the Bucks Exton Show, and until tomorrow, we've all got our orders. Shields high,