This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. Join the conversation and message Buck on Facebook, Instagram, or email Team bucket iHeartMedia dot com. He may read it on the show. It has been one year since the killing of George Floyd. We have a police officer who has been convicted of murder in that incident, and today the White House is meeting Joe Biden, the President of the United States, is
meeting with the Floyd family. And we are told, and there are countless editorials, articles, commentaries, we're told that this is a moment that we're supposed to take a step back and think about how we could reform policing and the defund the police movement. We should consider that. That's where we are right. We're one year into this, and the narrative at the left, the Democrats want you to believe is that George Floyd's George Floyd's memory led to
the BLM movement, which brought about greater justice. That's what they want you to think. That's the story, that's the dominant narrative. That there's racist policing in America where in a systemically racist society, and the BLM movement is addressing that and has for the last year, and there are
things to point two to say we're successful in that regard. Unfortunately, the reality of the BLM movement and its usage of the George Floyd incident as an inciting moment to go for BLM two point zero is that Black Lives Matter has made everything worse for everyone, which I was saying almost exactly a year ago, just a few weeks from now, if you were to go back and listen to this show, that was my assessment then as the riots tour through cities as police or being assaulted and mobbed and pelted
and ridiculed spat on, this was going to be bad for America, and it would be bad for the black and black, black and brown communities that we are told are the whole reason for the defund the police movement, right, that it would actually make things worse for everyone, including in predominantly minority areas of the country where there is a high crime where there is sometimes a high crime rate. Right, That's what we are looking at right now. What has
been the reality of the last year. And I have to point now as we are in this martyrdom worship of the Floyd memory, which is really what's going on here. They have elevated George Floyd as a symbol, a global symbol. In fact, this was a man who, yes, our courts found was the victim of police police excessive force and murder. That is where the process stands right now. There was a murder conviction, as we know. There may be an
appeal we shall see. But that individual, George Floyd, was also somebody who pointed a loaded gun at the belly of a pregnant woman during a home invasion, had a long criminal history, and was someone used to resisting arrest. So that's not to say that what happened to him is in any way justified in that incident, but it is to say that picking this individual as a martyr for a movement is worthy of scrutiny, and I would
say criticism. I would say, why is it that it is in these instances, these cases that we see, whether it's Mike Brown or George Floyd, where law enforcement interaction with somebody who was engaged in criminal activity and then there is a dispute over the level of force use.
That's always the choice. It's not incidents where there actually is what seems to be a clear it's not always, at least focused on instance where there's a clear murder by police, which does happen, although very very rarely, which if we're going to have a serious and honest conversation about this, you have to look at the numbers, the facts, the figures. It is incredibly rare for anyone to be murdered by a police officer in this country. There are,
and I'm telling you the truth, this is serious. There are more people killed every year by beastings then there are people who are unarmed and murdered by police in an incident where the police officer is not using force appropriately. I think there were unarmed black men in the last year for which we have statistics, which would be twenty nineteen. At this point, there were about nine or was it fourteen that were killed that entire year by police in
an incident that may still have been lawful. But you can't look at the numbers and come away from the saying anything other than why so much exaggeration of this as a concern in society. Why is that we can't just treat each of those individual cases as worthy of due process and the legal system and let the facts bear out or any officer who exceeds exceeds the lawful use of force should be held to full account. No,
it's a narrative, you see. The narrative is that cops are racist, cops are bad, and if only we would defund police, we would have a better society, a better country. That's madness, and we now see what's going on as a result of it all across the country. A really powerful editorial in the Wall Street Journal today from Heather McDonald, the author of The War on Cops, and she writes that nineteen children in Minneapolis have been shot this year.
Remember Minneapolis is where the George Floyd incident happened, an increase of one hundred and seventy one percent over the same period in twenty twenty. Their relatives wonder where the protesters are. Quote, why ain't nobody mad about a ten year old my grandson fighting for his life, asked Sherry Jennings, Ladavian's grandmother at a May seventeenth mayoral event. Because a cop didn't shoot him? Is that why? Miss Jennings warned of a deadly summer for kids if the mayor and
the police chief don't step up. Later that day, Anniah Allen, six, was caught in a shootout between rival gangs while in her mother's car. Annia died on May nineteenth. Minneapolis homicides Heather McDonald writes between January first and last week or up one hundred and eight percent with the same period in twenty twenty, shootings were up one hundred and fifty three percent and carjackings two hundred and twenty two percent.
The crime increase began after Floyd's death and has never let up, nor has the assault on law enforcement that began with the arson destruction of the third Precinct building on May twenty eighth, twenty twenty. Officers are routinely punched, kicked, and hit with projectiles. There was a near riot in downtown Minneapolis in the early hours of May twenty second, following a shootout among club patrons. Two people were killed
in that shootout and eight wounded. Responding officers called for backup across the Twin cities at what the department called an exceptionally chaotic scene. The previous weekend, officers were mason pelted with rocks and debris while trying to disperse orderly crowds, so there was a movement for justice that started in Minneapolis a year ago. Today, has it achieved any justice? Has it done anything to the system. George Floyd had a trial where there was a trial because of the
killing of George Floyd. The officer was found guilty of his murder on all accounts. That was what happened. Why did we need riots, Why did we need mass destruction of property, arson and violence across the country as part of a movement. What did the movement achieve? Well, we're seeing what the movement achieved is more dead people are, more people raped, more people assaulted. This is just based
on the data and numbers all across the country. And the Democrats use this for mobilization in an election year. The Democrats used this entire incident for the purposes of trying to win power, and it worked. All the pandering, all the nonsense, and people like Pelosi, Oh yeah, sure, she's really all about the struggle. She really cares a lot about what's going on in minority communities. No one believes that all the pandering about how cops are bad,
cops are evil. Senior Democrats all across their apparatus, they don't actually think that stuff is true, but they say it. Why because it helps mobilize the Democrat base, activists and left wing voters. That there were people who suffered as a result, innocent people all across the country. Doesn't matter that good cops, which people like Joe Biden will say in passing you know, emotion of our cops are good.
That good cops were defamed with all of this and assaulted and attacked and undermining their jobs never enters into the calculations of the left. They don't care. They simply don't care. What you see all across the country is what exactly what happened the last time after the Ferguson effect, which was coined by Heather McDonald as a phrase and who wrote this excellent piece in the Wall Street Journal. There's more violence, more death, more despair, and it is
disproportionately in minority communities. And that is what has happened as a result of this movement. So as we sit here on the one year anniversary of George Floyd, and you've a bunch of frauds and liars, the activists claiming that this led to a movement that did anything other than make things worse. I just want you to know right away they're lying to you. They are lying. Here's what Heather rights. As lawless as Minneapolis has become, it
is hardly atypical a drive by shooting. Our drive by shootings and homicides jump nationwide during and after the Floyd riots. Homicides rose fifty percent in Chicago in twenty twenty, forty six percent in New York City, and thirty eight percent in Los Angeles. The US are the largest annual percentage increase in homicides in recorded history in twenty twenty. That
increase has continued in twenty twenty one. The number of shooting victims in Chicago is up forty three percent in the first three months of twenty twenty one compared with the same period in twenty twenty. Through May sixteenth, the number of shooting victims in New York City is up seventy eight point six percent over a year ago. In the Bronx, the number is up one hundred and seven
one hundred and sixty five point seven percent. We are at the one year mark of George Floyd's killing and the movement that it spawned, and we look at that movement and the data is clear. It is a disaster built on misrepresentations and lies. What does the White House? What do the Democrats offer as the reason behind the huge spike? I mean, no one can hide this data anymore.
They can't argue about it. Nationwide. What caused the nationwide increase in violence and homicides, home invasions, armed robberies, rapes, Well, what caused all of that? Oh, they'll they'll come up with something, I'm sure. And Jensaki among the most obviously inept members of this Biden White House. This is her explanation, the White House Press secretary for what caused the rise in crime? Play too? Is there a crime problem in this country? Well, I would say certainly there is a
guns problem, and that's something the President would say. And there are communities where local violence and community violence is an issue, and that's one of the reasons that we have proposed and have now are implementing funding for community violence prevention programs across the country. I will say that we don't often highlight and you just gave me the opportunity to the fact that between mass shootings, mass shootings that get a lot of attention, that we lower the flags.
There are hundreds thousands of people who lose their lives, and one of the reasons the President will continue to advocate for the Senate passing back universal background checks, but also advocate for actions and states where we have seen the greatest level of activism over the past of early years is community violence prevention. She sounds like a moron. Well, there's a reason for that. This is blather. This is the White House Press secretary saying that there's a there's
not a crime problem, there's a gun problem. No, there's a crime problem. A lot of the crime Saki don't even involve guns. There is a crime problem in this country right now. It is all heading in the wrong direction. And the reason for that is Democrat pandering. It's Democrat pandering to victimology, identity politics, anti cop animus. That's why this is happening. We know why it's happening, but they
won't say it. No, they'd rather live in this fantasy land of if only we had more social workers, if only the community violence was addressed differently. I got news for SAKI and all the rest of the lunatic libs. Violence that occurs in the context of crimes, it's not it's not a problem of the community. It's a problem for the community, as in it is done to people who aren't committing crimes. But there's no sympathy expressed here.
There's no desire for immediate change, and that would mean change in policy to make the over ninety nine percent of people who live in even the most high crime neighborhoods, who aren't engaged in violence against the innocent. There's no consideration given for their plight, no more important. Let's just paint some George Floyd murals in places, put up some BLM hashtags, put up some BLM black squares on our instagrams or whatever. Let's do some virtue sigling. Let put
let's put Black Lives Matter flags at US embassies. I saw that report from what was it, the National Pulse. Right, Let's let's tell the whole world that BLM is a movement that the United States government stands by. It's just propaganda. That's what really is going on with the government. They won't address the real problem here, which is that their undermining law enforcement because there is a narrative that is
very apparent on the left. I mean, you see and hear it all the time that America is a systemically racist country, that our police are, in fact just the continuation of slave patrols. This is what is said that the historical precursor for police today, this is written about the New York Times, is slave patrols from the anti bellam era. It's a lie, it's historically ignorant, but they still say this, right, what do we want dead cops? That was a chant that I heard, pigs in a blanket,
fry him like bacon. That was a chant that I heard from BLM protesters. And I've seen the posters, the placards that they hold up at these at these protests, and I'm not even talking about the riots. There is no honesty. The lib elites are total frauds on this issue. They know, they know that making it harder for cops to do their job, making sure that people aren't signing
up to beat cops. That the ferguson effect of law enforcement officers unwilling to get involved to intervene because they don't want to risk their livelihoods and their freedom perhaps means that innocent, good people all across the country, black, brown, white, everybody, innocent people all across the country suffer as a result of this lie. We saw this all last year. It's
appalling that there was such an unwillingness. People were running scared from the notion that BLM wasn't actually working out well. That defund the police is the dumbest slogan of any political movement in modern American history. Okay, I can't think of anything as stupid in my lifetime as defund the police. But this is said by people who think that they're astute, think that they're wise on this issue. Really, what would happen if we really defunded police? Oh, well, then they
get into it. We don't really know what defund means yet, we're still figuring it out. Well, while they're figuring it out, kids are catching stray bullets. While they're figuring it out, places like Chicago and Memphis and New Orleans and New York and Los Angeles are having violence at unforeseen levels in decades and or rather unseen in decades. And what do they say in response to it. Let's just make some more George Floyd murals. That's going to solve the problem.
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this stuff, it's not about hating cops. We're not saying that the cops are the problem, but that is what they're saying. This is just gaslighting. That's what the BLM movement claims. That is at central premise that law enforcement is racist, that people have to be scared if they are black or brown because of law enforcement. This is
not rooted in fact, it's not rooted in reason. It's an exaggeration of what is what are outlier events with the millions and millions of police law police civilian interactions that are happening every year, but get rid of qualified immunity. This is what we're you know, because because I actually do want to focus on, Okay, what does the BLM movement want? A lot of this is just people that
are looking for a cause. You know, everything you've got, you know, white liberal nineteen year old girls driving around in you know, Daddy's range rover who are all BLM and you know, marching over there. There are a joke, I know people like this. You've got thirty year old trust fund kids living in Connecticut who were putting BLM on their Instagram page or BLM on their Facebook. It's virtue signaling, it's it's cool, it's a social We see that.
That's obvious, right. This is unfortunately a very effective tactic of the modern left that they just create because they control so many the institutions of our culture. Cheap virtue out there for anyone. All you have to do is go along. All you have to do is be a mouthpiece for whatever the preferred slow and of the moment may be. And you're showing everybody you're one of the good people. Cost you nothing, you do nothing. Okay, so
that's obvious, right, we know that that. You know, college students or people in their twenties and thirties gen Z millennials who risk nothing and do nothing and live in safe neighborhoods and put out on social media how much they care about BLM and George Floyd and in memory of George Floyd. We know they're a joke. They don't care, They don't deal with the reality. This is all about them. This is all self indulgence under the cover of altruism.
But it's self indulgence. So let's look at what the actual policies are. Let's look at what people who are involved in the movement are actually saying should happen. Here here's Floyd family attorney Chris Stewart on Qualified Immunity Play twenty three. This is a phenomenal bill anybody that knows about policing, about civil rights, about how these actually work in court, they know that qualified immunity. Getting rid of that it's not going to make a bunch of lawyers
like myself sue more cops. It's not. It's ridiculous because what really happens is in these cases in court, cities toss the officers away so they don't have any coverage anyway. So it's not going to make lawyers go out and sue more cops. It's semantics. It's because some people are just saying, I don't want to look like I'm allowing cops to be sued, when in reality it's not going to affect it at all of getting more officers sued. So getting rid of it will change the mentality of policing.
It makes officers no, I can't go out there and do whatever I want, which is all the change that needs to happen. So getting rid of it has to happen. It's not going to hurt police officers. That's semantics. Oh sure, sure, it's semantics. This is not true. What he's saying is, yeah, sure, the law would then make it so that you could sue a cop personally for doing his job at any point in time. But that's not going to result in
a whole bunch of lawyers suing cops unnecessarily unfairly. I mean, this is honestly, this this guy is, he's this is a joke. This is a joke. Qualify. Why does qualified immunity exist if it does not grant qualified immunity to the officers. The law is the law. But what he's saying is, well, sometimes they'll say that you went outside the scope of your employment and that you know you because of your misconduct. Yeah, that's because they've decided that
there are limitations to qualified immunity. But the baseline standard is you can't just sue a cop directly for doing his job as a person in the course of his duties. There's a reason this exists. It creates an additional barrier to frivolous bs. But notice he says, yeah, it's just going to create a difference in perception law enforcement. Oh sure, this is the Floyd family attorney, So take you know,
you know what's going on here. Sure, Now, cops will say I'm not going to use successive force and murder somebody because I don't have qualified immunity anymore. So, Yeah, that's really going to change the thought process. This is
just stupid. I mean, this is a stupid comment from a lawyer who's not very good at the law, but good at getting people upset, good at the narrative, good at making it seem like there's some intellectual merit to any any of these defund the police storylines or these ideas that we're gonna make everything better by getting rid of qualified immunity. It's stunning as this continues to play out that there's so little honesty in the press about this.
But that's where we are as a country, as a society, and people suffer as a result. This is not just something that's rhetorical. This is not just some intellectual argument. There's been a huge surgeon crime in America, and it started right when the BLM movement got going, right when the winds of political change came through police precincts all
across the country. As in the Democrats are ascendant, they're calling the shots, and they're going to feed you to the mob the moment that it is inconvenient for them to defend you as a law enforcement officer. That's what happened. They say, Oh, it's the pandemic that caused the surgeon violence. No, that doesn't stand up to a moment's scrutiny. The numbers all start to change dramatically right around now a year ago.
It was the ascendency of the BLM movement and then narrative of bl that led to the change in policing that led to the huge increase in murders shootings. Remember, for every person who's shot, there's a family that's devastated, there's a community that's devastated, there's a neighborhood that's terrified. Every time that happens, there's a person who loses his or her life, and then there's also all the other victims,
all the other people that have that loss. So when you're talking about thousands of additional homicides compared to what would have been a normal year in America, that's tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of people directly affected and connected to that incident of violence. So the second order effects are much greater and or much broader, and that's
something that you have to remember. So the other part of this, and Heather McDonald actually points this out in her excellent Wall Street Journal piece is that no other country in the world saw a huge surge in no other industrialized nations saw huge surgeon violence because the pandemic.
In fact, if you just think about this for a second, it should be what you saw in Canada and the UK, and relative to their normal crime rates, big drops in crime, far fewer people interacting with each other, far fewer people in the streets, more people at home, right, And so yeah, there can be home invasions, but that's a that's a riskier proposition for criminals, especially in countries where anybody may
be armed. Right, There's there's a whole less drug dealing disputes going on all of that because you have people interacting with each other, less people are locked at home. But the numbers, the data, the facts that don't that don't matter at all. This there's a storyline. The Democrats stick to it. The Democrats are the party of elevating victims. The Democrats are the party of helping the oppressed. The fact that they are creating more victims by adhering to
this false narrative doesn't matter. And that's just the cost of Democrats doing business. That's just what we see happening, and pretending that police retraining or federal government oversight of police stations looking for racism in every police department that comes up on their radar, that that's going to make
anything better for anybody is a fantasy. We know it is absurd, but people are scared of being called racist, They are scared of falling on the wrong side of BLM, and so so many, out of either just self advancement or cowardice, bend a knee at the altar of Saint George Floyd. Look, George Floyd was somebody who suffered from police excessive force, and an officer is now going to
spend decades of his life in prison for that. I also know that there's plenty of plenty of real legal analysis out there that George Floyd, of the George Floyd case against Eric chovin the incident of George Floyd's killing, his murder is going to be appealed, and that we will see what ends up happening. But as of right now, we have a police officer convicted of murder, and that is the system has spoken. Yet look at all the rest of what has happened from BLM, what has the
movement actually done all right. There was a trial, and if you believe that George Floyd was murdered, there was justice, at least as much justice as our system can give anyone. What then, for all the rest of it, Heather Macdonald'll just give you a little more from her Wall Street Journal piece here. Of the one hundred homicide victims in Minneapolis since May twenty five, twenty twenty, only one was
killed by a cop. The victim was a suspected gun runner who had tried to run over officers before shooting at them through his car, win causing them to return fire. There is little evidence that the Minneapolis police department systemically violates black civil rights, but Attorney General Merrick Garland has
opened a civil rights investigation into the Minneapolis police department. Anyway, if history is any guide, the resulting descent descent decree will cause crime to increase in the city as officers back off further proactive policing. The victims of that additional crime increase will, as always, be disproportionately black. At least three quarters of Minneapolis's homicide and shooting victims are black,
though the city is less than a fifth black. Sharpton and Crump have no answers to that dilemma, so they ignore it. The reality of BLM policing in America and the epidemic of violence that we are seeing. Governor Hi, I want to ask you about the bill that you're signing here today. Here a loyal supporters former President Donald trumpp is now a resident in Florida, and Usk platform business bill for him. The bills for everyday Floridians is what we said, and it would allow any Floridians to
be able to provide what they're doing. So but I think, I mean, I do think that's another issue that has been brought to bear when you de platform the president United States. But you let Ayatollah Homan need to talk about killing years is long ron decentis just just racking up those wins down in Florida. The governor of Florida, he's he's not tired of winning. He's not tired of winning, and I think we all need to understand that this is a guy who's showing us what can be done
at the state level. He signed a bill prohibiting tech platforms from suspending or banning political candidates in the state, with possible finds about the two hundred and fifty thousand dollars per day if the candidate is seeking statewide office, twenty five thousand dollars per day at the candidate is seeking a non statewide office. This, I mean, this is so important to understand the implications of this. We already have all kinds of restrictions on the First Amendment that
Democrats love. They want restrictions on money and politics. They want restrictions on it was it was the position of the Obama administration in Citizens United at the Supreme Court, the Solicitor General for the Obama administration wanted the right to be able to ban books about political candidates before an election. That was the official position of the Democrat Party under Barack Obama's time in office. Citizens United. All the dark money and politics, Oh my gosh, what are
we gonna do? Absurd? I work in radio. They are all kinds of restrictions on radio, you know, the FCC, what I can say, who I can talk to, equal time. There's all kinds of things there that are already regulated. But see, the Democrats want no regulation, no touch allowed on the shoulder of big tech. Because big tech is almost entirely a left wing pack. That's what we know. That's what we see happening all the time, and they
don't want that to change. They don't want that to be any different because it is an enormous advantage for them, and look what they've been able to do. Meanwhile, you've got you know, Joe Scarborough, whose ratings are down on that show. He's just not a very smart or a good or ethical person. That's very apparent from what he says and does on TV all the time. But he also doesn't understand the law or the constitution. But this is the kind of crap you'll hear from leftists or
whatever whatever. Scarborough is a whatever whatever my paymasters at MSNBC, whatever, whatever coins they throw at me, that's what he'll do. And whatever they tell him to do, that's what he'll say. Play nineteen. That's what's so cute about this political stunt, this political gesture. First of all, it's most likely unconstitutional.
It violates the First Amendment and how a private company chooses to moderate content on their platform they've been Secondly, the hypocrisy of people like run To Santis and Josh Hally saying they're small government conservatives who believe in free market and free enterprise, and believe in the power of companies to run things the way they want to run, deciding they are going to be used the power of the state to tell Facebook or to tell Twitter how
to run their First Amendment policies. It's just that's a bizarre thing for a small an alleged small government Republican to do. You know, yeah, we're just we're all of a sudden, he's a market absolutist, you know. Yeah, the free marts to do whatever they want. First Amendment rights, Yeah yeah, sure, Oh okay, he's on a cable channel. There's all kinds of regulations out there about what you can do, indecency, there are all kinds of restrictions on
transparency and political advertising. I mean to say, just the First Amendment means when when it comes to Facebook and Twitter, for obvious reasons, the left takes the position they can do whatever they want, they can do anything they want, no regular Oh okay, So these those are the companies that have no regulation all of a sudden, according to the Left, which Joe Scarborough is a part of. I mean, he's just a paid hack will do whatever they want
him to. Do. And this is so interesting, but it's like I always tell you, it's just about power. There's no principle behind any of this. They'll say, what do they have to say to get what they want. That's the attitude of the left, that's the attitude of social justice warriors, that's the attitude of the commies that are increasingly obviously ascendant in American public and private life. We have people that want totalitarian left wing control of the government.
They think that would be a better thing. I'm not saying that we're there and that's what the country is in, but that's what they desire, and whatever they have to say to push in that direction, they will say. And people like Joe Scarborough will say it too, because you know they're paying him. We don't have enough data on information to jump to a conclusion at this point in time.
They have repeatedly called for the WHO to support an expert driven evaluation of the pandemic's origins that is free from interference or politicization, and now we're hopeful that WHO can move into a more transparent, independent phase to investigation. I would say, in terms of the report, which was specifically about individuals being hospitalized we have no means of confirming that or denying that. I mean, it's not a report from the United States. The journals of the US
Intelligence report, so that would have value US. Well, I don't have any I don't have anything more on a US intelligence report. Now, all of a sudden, it's not clear. Now, of a sudden, it's not obvious that the Wuhan coronavirus came from, oh, you know, a cave somewhere. Now, all of a sudden, it may it may in fact be the case that those who were saying all along that this could have been the result of an error in a lab that was studying it. That's not crazy, gosh.
I know this is not surprising to you and me. But it is interesting, isn't it. How much changes and how much they the consensus fauci I had left, how much they've gotten wrong over and over again. Here's the former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo on this play twenty Someone somebody will have worked in that laboratory and will decide they can stick out of China. I'll come tell the truth. I'm convinced, but sadly, I don't think that'll happen in a timely fashion. And so what can the
world do, How can we hold China accountable? There are many for them that we could do this, And why on earth would you were join the World Health Organization, which were rewards of the Chinese for the exact partner that they joined in the cover up with right, it was doctor Tedros and Chi Chingping that colluded to keep this information out of the hands of the world, And so there are many things the United States government could do to impose real cost on the Chinese Communist Party
until they come clean about what they know and what they did. We know for sure they covered up this virus. I am confident that we will find that the evidence that we have seen to data is consistent with a lab leak, and I'm convinced that's what we'll see. If I'm wrong, I hope the Chinese Communist Party will come forward and make a full oil. If they're going to hold back data, they're never going to give us full transparency. We all know that China won't even allow its own
people basic freedoms. You think that they're really going to respond to a good faith of a good faith ask for data and information from the World Health organization, or the US for that matter. Now, I think that Mike Pompeo, I will tell you, is overstating the leverage that the US has to get answers here. The reality is that
there is nothing that we are going to do. There's nothing we can do to force China to tell us things that would lead us to believe that they were that the Chinese Communist Party, that the regime was reckless in the original or in the outbreak of COVID nineteen and covered it up that effectively their negligence caused a global pandemic that has killed millions of people and cost trillions of dollars. They're never going to admit that. They're never going to give us the data to prove that
or see that. They will always, always, always tell us that this was from bats, or we don't know, or you know, whatever it was. That's the way this will go.
So I think that we need to understand that, yes, it is worth measuring China on this, but you know, there's only so much you can do for a situation like this, where China views this as not existential for its future, but certainly a high enough priority to cover this up that nobody is going to get them to do anything on this that they don't want to do. That's I think that much of it is obvious this point.
But I remember when this was for conspiracy theorists and all the different news stories and all the people who were so quick to either fake certainty or to just why about this? You know, it's been pretty good. And I gotta say Governor rom De Santis once again desantists he's not tired of winning play twenty two. Now we have information that this very well may have emanated from the wu Han Lab. That it was it was a
leak from the lab. But you remember when people last year were raising that has something that needed to be investigated. They were deplatformed for talking about the lab league, they were censored for having said that. And now even Fauci admits that this may be something that very well is the case. Are they going to now censor Fauci and pull him down of social media. That's one of the things that I will not forgive or forget that big tech shut down people for wrong think. But they said
it was for you know, factual and accuracies. They brought these little, these little idiot sensor stormtroopers Oh, the fact checkers from places like PolitiFact an embarrassment of an organization and PolitiFact Media matters. These are places where only the lamest, slimiest human beings would ever want to spend time or draw paycheck. But that's that's what end up happening. They outsource their censorship to these so called fact checkers, and that was it, right if you were on the wrong
side of them. Sorry, the fact checkers have spoken. That's the way that went. And now they're wrong. We see they're wrong on a lot of things. They weren't actually facts. They were just opinions with the veneer of scientific consensus, and that was all that was necessary to push the whole thing through and to shut you down, to shut me down. I still have it. I still have PolitiFact writing an article, Oh outdoor, I said, outdoor masking is stupid. Yeah,
it is stupid. I was right. You know, it looks like the CDC. I saw some rumor reporting the CDC may change its outdoor mask guidance for kids at summer camps because it is so stupid and so unscientific and so idiotic on every level that the CDC is embarrassed enough to reconsider its position on that. But going back to the COVID origins fight, because you know that's getting a lot of attention this week, and we talked about
it in detail yesterday in the show. What is the preferred the preferred rationale now for why they all turned on the lab league theory and believed the came from a cave theory or the wet market? Right, came from the wet market. If that were the case, why weren't all the cases that they initially established having some connection to that wet market. They didn't. Some of them had
no connection. That doesn't make sense. But Maggie Haberman, Democrat at the Democrat New York Times, wants you to know
that it's really Trump's fault play eleven. I do think it's important to remember that part of the issue when this was first being reported on and discussed back a few months after the pandemic had begun, was that then President Trump and Mike Pompeo, the Secretary of State, both suggested they had seen evidence that this was formed in a lab and they also suggested it was not released on purpose, but they refused to release the evidence showing what it was. And so because of that that made
this instantly political. I think that was you example one thousand, when the Trump administration learned that when you have burned your own credibility over and over again, people are not immediately going to believe you, especially in an election year. However,
that does not mean it's not worth discussing. There has been a sort of persistent, albeit relatively quiet focus on whether that was the origin of the virus, and it is compounded by the fact that there have not been clear answers from Chinese officials about it, and that investigators trying to find out the origin have been stymiedd So I do think we're in a different period of this, John, But I also think it's important to remember because I think it's getting reframed in a way that's just not
true to what happened. I don't mean here, I mean in this broader debate by Trump supporters about what happened when this was originally raised. Okay, let's let's unpack this for a second. Maggie Harman, in convincing and pretty you know, pretty fluid fashion here is really just making the case for, yeah,
we got it wrong. The media got this wrong by and large, but we had to get it wrong because Trump's such a liar that the fact that Trump said that it came from a lab justified us going against him, which was the media's attitude about everything. If Trump said it, it must be wrong. But they believe it that's actually a sound rationale. They believe that's actually a reasonable justification for being wrong. If Trump said it, it has to be incorrect. Doesn't that tell you a lot about where
they really were on this? Doesn't that tell you a lot about what the media? Well, you already know this. I mean, the media was psychotically opposed to Donald Trump. But even on something where there were other voices all along, there were experts who were saying, now, this actually looked like it probably came from a lab. They insisted on opposing that theory and discrediting. Not not just saying we don't think this is right. It's a conspiracy theory. You're
a koup, you're a nut, don't believe it. They insisted on that because it was politically expedient. This is just another data point to show you why you cannot trust the corporate media. You cannot trust them. They are not about honesty and truth and transparency. They are propagandists. They are pushing a narrative, and they are seeking power for their side. The most important thing this is if you read between the lines what you are being told here,
even by a celebrated New York Times journal. The most important thing here was opposing what Donald Trump said at the time, not getting it right because in an election year, having Trump look like one he's correct, but also pointing to China as the origin of this, a country that Donald Trump was much more willing to confront and deal with in a forceful way than his predecessors of either party. That wasn't a narrative they wanted to tell. It was
Trump's buffoon. He's an idiot. He can't even he's making up things. Oh, he's making up things about the origins of the virus, like he makes up the injecting bleach into his veins. You are these other stupid things you hear from the journals all the time. And so they got this wrong, But they're not remorseful about getting it wrong.
They just wished they hadn't gotten so blatantly caught. Because what was important to get this right, to understand the truth of this virus early on, because you can't stop the next pandemic. Really, if you don't know how this one started, right, that didn't matter as much. Bash Trump, that was always on everything, that was mission number one for the journos. Don't ever forget it. I'm surprised he took the long and he shouldn't have. And now he needs to call members of his own party and tell
them it's time to stop this rhetoric. I mean, when you say things like calling Benjamin nitt Nahu an ethno nationalist on the floor of the United States Congress, when you call Israel an apartheid state, which Democrat members of Congress have done on the floor of the United States Congress, that's incendiary rhetori. Brian, and we've had almost two hundred incidents of violence reported now against Jewish Americans. Again, that's just reported. We don't know what else is out there.
That's too many. That's too much, and this rhetoric is contributing to it. It's got to stop. The left has an anti Semitism problem. That's apparent to anyone who's paying attention. The left has got problems when it comes to the Jewish state, and I think we all know what that means. Now, not all Democrats, obviously, there are many Democrats who are very ardently pro Israel and are Jewish themselves, or are
very pro Jewish themselves. But if you're looking for the real home base of anti Semitism in America today, it is on the political left. And to give you a sense of this, perhaps in a way that gives you a vision into what the future of this conversation looks like. Amy Horowitz, who is a friend of mine for many years. I've done Ammy now for almost ten years. He's a documentary filmmaker, a journalist, just a guy who makes content to expose some of the political absurdities out there of
the left. He's been doing this for years. He does a lot of man on the street stuff. He has gone from he has gone to a college campus and he's asking people in this video, many people on this campus where I'm sure there's a lot of you know, anti Israel and bdsum or. I think that's what it's called, right, what is it? Boycott divest sanction? Yeah, BDSH A lot of that activity on the campus, that's on campuses all across the country. Amy goes and asks students if they
will support hamas financially and the destruction of Israel. And I'm sorry, this is actually a Portland park. Pardon me. This is in a park in Portland, Oregon, not on a campus. It looked like a campus to me. A park in Portland, Oregon. But it's Portland, so you've got a lot of loons walking around here, he is. Play I remember to put this in two parts. First, Amy posing this to people, so you're here, I'm talking to a lot of different people, and then we'll play the
responses from the people he's talking in the park. Play five. We're raising money for American Friends for CAMAS. So I work for American Friends for CAMAS. I work for American Friends for Hamas. Okay, we're not your father's terrace organization. We kind of evolved beyond that. If there still kind of what we do, but we've kind of rebuilt and
rebranded ourselves. And you know, you know, Kamasa is where it's that we're raising money to do well, you know we do is CAMAS if you want to fund operations against Israel, and you know the type of tax talking about our cafes and schools and you know, soft targets type operations we're talking about against you know, soft targets, schools and cafes and that kind of thing to make them feel it, hospitals and destroying cafes, shopping malls and
schools and place of worship. This is the kind of stuff we're talking about civilian populations, and this is the only way you can fight back. Really, the suicide bombers all have gotten. And that's kind of like because it's the poor man's F fifteen and fun operations. I guess that's well, that's the kind of thing we're doing. Okay, well, hey, thanks for time man. Yeah, of course, appreciate it, good luck, thank you. You know, when we're looking to white this
role off the map. So he's making it very clear. I mean, I want to make sure that we understand before I play the responses from these various people. This is man on the street stuff. This is not a scientific study, This is not a scientific poll or anything like that. But it's you know, a nice day in
Portland in a public park. He's walking around saying, hey, I'm raising money for American friends for must Now, in reality, I'm sure some of you are thinking if you were raising money for what is a designated terrorist organization, you could get into a whole lot of trouble. So he's clearly doing this as an active of parody and undercover journalism. But just to give a sense though for the people that are now, maybe they don't know this, but it's true.
Material support to a terrorist organization is I think you can get ten years in federal prison for that, and raising money certainly constitutes material support. So he's even going around asking people. Now they may not know that, but I think they probably should. But he's going around asking people this, and he's making very clear what he's hoping with his fake friend American Friends of Hamassa organization, when he's hoping to accomplish. Here are the responses that my
friend Ami horror It's got in this Portland park play six. Yeah, we want you know, we're looking to destroy Israel. We don't want dis guys that we want to have. I've actually been learning about last in this last school year, about everything's going on over there. So I like the sound of way you're doing. It sounds like the great thing to do. Yeah, totally again to see ISRAELI gain, it's like awesome, But we were going to get rid of Israel. Stay off drugs. We would love you check
out our website. Good luck, Thank you. Do you feel like donating to help the cause to fight back and that'd be great, and maybe consider making a donation great, probably fifteen months, a few bucks, that'd be great, fifteen to twenty car ten dollars and maybe like ten dollars and ten bucks and ten dollars five or ten bucks, ten bucks, let's say twenty seven dollars, since that seems to be my Bernie donation. This is all about peace and love. We got to fight back as the oppressors
see a. Brother. Yeah, I mean it's important to kind of fight back. And I'll let not to take it lying down, if you know what I mean. Piece and love, Yeah, piece of love yea love see man, Yeah, thanks bro, appreciate it, come us, Thanks you, I thank you, Thank you, Piece and love. You believe piece is important, right of course, of course. Yeah, but we got to get piece. You first got to destroy some stuff, you know, Hamas, thanks you, I thank you. Amy Horowitz says, oh man, I'll give
the same donation I gave to Bertie Sanders. One of them says, now, a lot of this I know is ignorance, and that's a part of it too, and people just I get it. But some of these people have obviously heard things about Hamas that it's a resistance group, that it's equalling things out with Israel. Amy more great work for my friend Ami Horowitz. Do you want privacy and security when you're doing all of the stuff you do online?
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as Republican don't want to get vaccinated. He could be considered a trusted messenger, and he's putting out inaccurate information on what we do know is that the immunity that you get from natural inspection it's not as strong or
robust as the immunity that you receive from vaccines. Additionally, we also know that the immunity induced by vaccines covers the variants and that's also concerns, So people who have had previous COVID infection can potentially get reinfected with vary So it's incredibly dangerous that, especially as a physician, that he's giving out this information and which which is even pushes us more to want to get out accurate, responsible messaging about the vaccine. And people need to understand that
a natural immunity is not sufficient to prevent reinfection. Natural immunity is not sufficient to prevent reinfection. This MSNBC guesses a doctor on MSNBC taking issue with what doctor rand Paul said recently about his natural immunity stats. There's a lot of things she says here that I want to pay attention to for a moment. Natural immunity is not sufficient to prevent reinfection. We know that there are breakthrough infections because they reported on them to terrify everybody a
few weeks ago, for even the vaccinated. So the statement she made about natural immunity ken as a matter of fact, be made about vaccinated immunity as well. So that's not really an important day a point that doesn't really tell you anything, does it. Natural immunity is not perfect, or acquired immunity right from having the virus. Vaccinated immunity is
not perfect. Two factual statements. Now, Okay, if she's going to say that vaccine immunity is better than naturally derived acquired immunity, is she talking about for COVID or in general? Because across the board that's not always true. So is it true specifically for COVID? I believe she would say yes, right, But I'm just saying, you know, we have to be very clear about what is being claimed here. No more can we hear these people say they're experts. I'm gonna listen.
I'm gonna listen to the experts, because the experts, No, you gotta triple mask and you gotta put on goggles or else you're gonna get the rhona. And you know that's what us on CNN, And you know, no, no, That's not the way to go about this, as we all know. So you have to look at the specific facts and ask for the data, ask for the proof. How can they even know at this point whether natural immunity or vaccinated immunity is longer lasting. We've only had
people getting vaccinated for a few months. We know that natural immunity has there are antibodies. We don't even really we're not even really able to know how much ch seal immunity. There is white blood seal immunity that your system maintains after an infection, but for at least ninety probably one hundred and eighty days. They expect you to have antibodies in your system, not always, but generally from
a natural infection. I was infected, so I, based on science, have antibodies in my blood to COVID right now, that's that's the belief I should have them. So how long? And this is the question, this is I'm asking these questions for a reason. How long does vaccinated immunity last? Ask that question and you will get shut up and get vaccinated. Okay, we'll hold on a second. How long does vaccinated immunity last? In fact, if I right now type in to Google how long does vaccinated immunity last
for COVID? The good news is that this is the first thing that comes up on Google. The good news is that there is reason I'm reading the quote here, there is reason to believe that immunity from COVID nineteen vaccines will last at least longer than six months. Natural immunity can last up to eight months, according to research published in Science. Okay, well, eight months is longer than six months. And this is the first thing that pops
up on Google. And it's from the Global Alliance for what is this called GAVII, the Vaccine Alliance Okay, and it's all this different stuff. I'm just telling this is just so here I am. I'm trying to get informed, right, I'm trying to learn stuff because I just saw this
woman on MSNBC, the doctor saying this. And yet the first answer that I get, and the featured snippet that comes up on Google of five hundred and ten million results, the number one result on Google tells me then, in fact, natural immunity lasts up to eight months, and vaccinated immunity is believed to be longer than six months. Well, which one of those sounds better. I'm just telling you exactly what I see here. Okay. I go to healthline dot Com.
The next one that pops up new research finds that mRNA vaccines for COVID nineteen provide immunity for at least six months, but since COVID nineteen is so new, experts aren't sure if immunity will wane after that. Experts say more research will have to be done to understand if people will need regular booster shots for COVID nineteen. They don't know the answers to these questions that I imposing now on air. They do not know. And if they say they know, they are lying to you. Now, I
think that's important. I think that's relevant information right now, because they are are promoting this stuff as if it's settled, which they do over and over again. They are running fast and loose with the facts. So if I'm thinking about this and I'm looking at this, they say that the vaccinated immunity is better than natural immunity. That is at best in analysis and extrapolation from data. It is not proven, it is not clear, and it may not even be true. But MSNBC puts a person on there
to say rand Paul is doing. Rand Paul is saying dangerous things. You know, Rampaul just got like white powder sent to him or something because some moron in the entertainment industry I don't even know what the guy does, said that he loves the neighbor, that he would hug the neighbor that attacked Rampaul. They hate Rand Paul because he's smart, and he's principled, and he's not an authoritarian busybody, and he knows what they the authoritarian left they're really
all about. But as you know, I don't always agree with Rand Paul, although I do a lot, but I've got a lot of respect for the guy and what he's been put through, almost beaten to death by a leftist, after almost being shot to death by a Bernie Sanders leftist. Okay, that's Senator Rampaul. Oh but all the political violence comes on the right. Oh, oh, shure, nonsense. Back to the
vaccination and discussion here. They want someone like me, for example, to get vaccinated even though I have a confirmed COVID diagnosis and recovery, because they tell you it's not enough, you need vaccination too. They have no proof of that does not exist. They are thinking, they are surmising, they cannot prove that. And in fact, as I just told you, the first things you see when you do a Google search on they Now you can say, oh buck, that's Google, okay,
but this is how people get their information. Now. The first hit I get on how long does does immunity from COVID vaccination last? The first hit I get tells me that natural immunity may well be better than longer lasting than vaccinated immunity, but natural immunity is not something anyone obviously makes any money off of. And then it also complicates the narrative of well, then does everyone really have to get the shot? Does everyone rand pose? A MD says he's not getting it? Does every have to
get it? They simply don't. They simply don't know here how long this will last. And then there's that other part of it. They they're setting this up for you right now. And I hate to be the one to bring this up because I know it's a it's a bummer for all of us. They're setting this thing up, the whole narrative. And this comes at a time when we know that the origins of COVID all of a sudden, the narrative around that is changing. But their whole narrative
is that you get the shot right right now. It's get the shot and you're pretty much done. Yeah, you still have to wear a mask for no good reason on an airplane orever, but get the shot and you're
pretty much good to go. How can they tell us that if they don't know whether we're going to need booster shots for this, and if we're going to need booster shots for this, do you now have a situation where there will be a requirement for annual COVID nineteen shots for you to be considered, you know, one of the safe, one of the good ones who gets the shot. I think the answer to that is clearly, yes, you're
going to have to get booster shots. And you can see that's why for a lot of people holding the line against vaccine passports and these government mandates are so important right now, and that's why you have states that are taking very different approaches to the Some states are saying you can't have vaccine passports. Others are saying, yeah, you know, absolutely, we want we want there to be restrictions in place based on vaccination status. Private sector can
do it, go for it. So I'm seeing here there are unanswered questions. They don't know when they're pretending they do. And that's all. Yeah, all you have to know to understand that something is up here. There's a problem. The answer to the question how long does vaccinated immunity last for COVID nineteen is they don't know. They think six months, that's the real answer. The answer for how long does naturally acquired immunity last is they don't know, but they
think up to eight months, probably six. But they don't know. The answer to how many times are you gonna have to get a COVID vaccine if you think that vaccination should be effectively mandatory for all people is they don't know. They will let you know in time when they decide. Someone, please explain to me, Please write and tell me how I'm not seeing this right. Tell me what I'm missing here.
But notice the certainty. They go on TV and they have Fauci and the other little little health policy fascists running around acting like they've got all the answers, when really they're making value judgments and they're using analysis and pretending it's fact. So I'll just say this, you know, I put out a same and I wrote that statement is you know, it was an honest mistake, and I
have apologized for it. I think that we have specifically not gone forward and penalized businesses or they're trying to do the right thing. It's those that have flouted and put people's safety at risk that you know, are the most concerning. But you know, I don't know that there's a lot more for me to add at this point in time other than those former spartans or I guess you're spartan for life, who know, the establishment should be aware that is now a restaurant and they have pretty
good pizza. Oh yeah, you know, you got good pizzia. And you know, I just do we mean a little mistake the area and oh, you know the governor and you know, I'm a humane and I like good pizza and I'm just like you, and you have been Whitmer of Michigan. The governor the biggest of lockdown tyrants, I mean, at the top five certainly in the country, probably top three. And it turns out that you break your own rule. And it's a stupid rule to begin with. It shouldn't
even be there. But it never forces her to think, well, maybe I shouldn't be enforcing stupid rules. No, it's better to apologize for violating your own stupid rule than saying it was dumb in the first place. That is the approach of the Democrats here. That is their decision with all of this all across the board when it comes to COVID when I mean, obviously this is what Whitmer is saying. But we still have a long way to go here. Friends, I went flying. I was on a plane,
not like I went flying on my own. I was on a commercial jet over the weekend. I'm gonna be in Miami this coming weekend on I love Miami. What can I tell you on a plane, I'm gonna have to wear a mask. We have all these stupid rules still, and this is not just going to go away. And if we allow it to linger, as it is just like a virus. If you allow some viral particles, if your system doesn't clear at all, it may come back.
You need to actually clear the virus. You need to have it expelled from your system and lockdown arism and mask worship. These are like viry of the brain. And I think we have to continue to engage on these issues. What I'm saying, we're not done yet, because there's still stupid rules. That's why Governor Whitmer violated one of her own stupid rules. Oh, one more thing on vaccination. Stephen A. Smith is a sports commentator, and he is upset with
I've seen him before on TV. I'm not really familiar with this work. As you all know, I don't care about professional sports commentary at all. I mean I care about professional sports commentary the way you know most people would care about, you know, professional poker commentary. Let's say, who never gamble like I just it doesn't appeal him at all. But I know who Stephen A. Smith is. He's upset with Lebron James because of not saying more
about vaccination Plate twelve. He hasn't spoken about this nume, despite numerous opportunities that he's had to do so. Obviously, that'll raise an antenna and make you wonder why he insists on not speaking on such thing at all, particularly when he recognizes how it's ravaged donation, how it's ravaged the world globally, and what kind of profound impact it has had on our communities. That's why I said what I said, because optics matter, particularly when it comes to
Lebron James. You put yourself in this position, you know what's going to conjure up questions and to give those weak answers that he gave the other day when asked about it before a playoff game against the Phoenix Suns. I just thought was beneath what we've come to know, appreciate, and fully expect from Lebron James, and in that particular instance, he was a flagrant disappointment. I think Lebron James is a flagrant disappointment for anything that does not involve putting
a basketball into a cylinder. I don't understand. I don't think Lebron James is impressive in any capacity beyond his ability to play a sport. But I also understand he's got a lot of influence, which is troubling, especially for what he says about law enforcement, police and race relations in America. I think that's very troubling. But I've got
a better idea. Instead of expecting athletes to weigh in on complicated topics like vaccination, because that's someone that we should all look to, I would much prefer if we would understand that athletes actors. Most politicians aren't very smart, don't know what the heck they're talking about. And not obviously all athletes or actors, but you know, most of the individuals who speak out of these issues don't know
what the heck is going on. Let's not look to people just because they're famous for advice on complicated medical or policy issues. We like to talk solutions and action here on the show whenever possible. As you know, school boards are dominated in many places across the country by the leftists and they're trying to indoctrinate children. This results in further indoctrination down the line politicized people on the left all across the country, and we've got to put
a stop to it. But what can we do. How do you get rid of critical race theory and other left wing dogma being brainwashed in a children. Well, my next guest here has an idea and he's doing something about it. Ryan Grdusky is with us now. He's the author of They're Not Listening How the Elites created a National Populous Revolution. He's a political consultant and he's got a new project to tell you all about. Ryan. Great to have you, Thank you for having me, Buck, I
really appreciate it. So what's going on here? You have started a pack that's going to do some very interesting stuff. Tell everybody. So it's the first pack in America. It's called the seventeen seventy six Project Pack. I be found at seven and seventy six projectpack dot com. And it's the first pack that's going to focus on school board
elections on a national level. It's a national superpack and I'm going to create fifty state packs, so you'll donate to the National superpacker you're got involved the National Superpack and it will filter to every state pack and campaigns across every state. And we are going to challenge school board members who are promoting critical race during the sixteen
nineteen project throughout the entire country. And why I think that the school board elections are unique than other elections is that eighty nine percent of school board elections across the country are nonpartisan. Very few actually have an R or a D to their name, so it's very possible to compete in leaning blue or left wing areas that Republican politicians unfortunately don't find themselves succeeding in because they have an art attached to their name, so that's an advantage.
They're also much much cheaper run than congressional campaigns or Senate campaigns or governorships. These are elections that are done you know, through mostly mailers and mail campaigns and and web ads, and can be done on a much, much much cheaper level. So your dollar will actually go much further to support as many candidates that we possibly can afford for this next upcoming election cycle to win over school board elections, and I'm hoping that this will be
the start of a much bigger thing. I got it. I got a couple of questions, Ryan, I don't have kids, so I haven't really dealt with the school board right, No, but but I mean obviously you're working on this, so I just want to know, well, first off, actually, even taking a step further back, what does a pack really do? Forever we hear this, people to read about it, we
talk about it. What does a pack do? So a super pack or a pack A pack and a super pac are a little different, but a superpack is what I started, is the political action committee that can campaign
on behalf of candidates running for office. So you're not allowed to campaign with the candidate but you can campaign on their behalf, sending out mail, making commercial doing digital advertising, even having your own door knockers and phone bankers campaign on behalf of a candidate, as long as you don't coordinate with a campaign. So let's say you are running for office and I ran a pack for you, though I couldn't tell you talked about what your strategy is
or what you're doing. I could raise independent funds and make mailers or commercials, support boarding you and or attacking your opponent. And so what is the advantage or what are we hoping to accomplish with this superpack at school boards? If you're successful, it will mean what. So the reason the pack is interesting is they'll be able to support one. You can have an unlimited amount of dollars, so you can give a dollar, you can give a million dollars,
you can have anything in between. You even unlimited a number of money if you wanted to. It also is advantageous by the fact that I don't have to declare a single solitary candidate. It can be an issue oriented pack, which is what this is. So I can support school board members in Pittsburgh and then school board members over near Charlotte, North Carolina, and you know, in California and
in upstate New York or wherever I want to. I don't need to be concentrated as opposed to just donate to a candidate, to a single person or place I could do, you know, as many or as few as I possibly can afford. Speaking to Ryan or Dusky, he's the author of They're not listening how the elites have created a national populist revolution, and he's telling us about
his new pack. Ryan tell her in the name of the pack again, the seventeen seventy six Project Pack, seventeen seventy six projectpac dot com once in the first national school board pack in America. And you know, this is what the left has done very very well. As you saw back in twenty eighteen, George Soros put millions of dollars into district attorney's races. District attorney's races are local elections. There's something that most national people don't think about it.
But he was very successful in putting people in place in Los Angeles and in in in Philadelphia and Chicago. And what that resulted in was as huge spike of spike in crime, as as district attorneys allowed prisoners to run free and cause massive chaos across the entire country, and that's why we've seen a spike in crime. I'm trying to get the head started. Want to be reactionary to a left left lingers are doing. I'm doing it
ahead of time. I'm trying to invest money at the school board level to try to win over people to oppose critical race during the sixty nineteen project, and I also want to go one step further. For forty or fifty years, conservatives out there and said we have a problem with what they're teaching at schools, and then they push the critical race theory, and now we want to go back to what we just what we've hated for
forty fifty years and not actually fundamentally alter it. I'm going to focus on even in places that have banned critical race theory, which is now at four states, Texas, Tennessee, Oklahoma, and Idaho. I want to focus on trying to move the conversation forward and create a conservative curriculum of history. There are simple things and little things that kids are being taught that are not critical race theory necessarily, but they're historically a little bit inaccurate or they portray American
a negative light. I would like to sit there and stop it and portray American a positive light. These are national schools. They should promote a national um, community and national you know, uh state of pride for your nation. We shouldn't be our government should not be working against ourselves.
So we're we're talking. What we're talking about here, Ryan would basically be instead of the sixteen nineteen project, which is the New York Times narrative of our history that has some major fact false narrative that it's a major factual inaccuracies that you instead of just saying we because I think this is this goes to some a fundamental issue of conservatism today, which is in a lot of cases the reaction from the riot is, well, let's just create a neutral space. And this this notion of a
vacuum when it comes to curriculum is absurd. I mean, that's that's not going to work, just saying well, don't teaching as a neutral standpoint of history. History is a lot of times written in the eyes of the winners or in the people who have a critical view of it. You know, kids are taught nowadays things like slavery is the original sin of the United States. Well, slavery was an ugly point of our history. There's no contention about that. However,
we didn't invent invent his slavery. Slavery is not an American idea. It's not solely, you know, just within this one country. We should children should not be taught that America must bear this entire burden for something that happens on a global scale, among all races, among all people, among all continents. It is a fault of human nature, not a fault of just being American, but that this over you know, intensified. Look at how we are at
fault for anything that is, you know, innately human. Gives children a very negative plans and a negative view of history. They're taught to villainize people like George Washington and Christopher Columbus and celebrate people who don't have um, you know, the very good intentions. When it comes to the American state, of the American nation, that has to be reversed. It
just has to. You should be if you go to a state school, you should be taught why the American nation the nation you will live in, you're probably born in, you grow up in is inherently the greatest place on earth, a very good nation that has done probably I would argue a majority of the great things over the last two hundred years that all of human life has experienced.
And you know, kids are not taught that, and that is very very, you know, upsetting, And I think that coming at it from trying to get a neutral standpoint of history is not accurate because there is no neutral standpoint. I mean, I think that that's ridiculous. Kids aren't don't sit there and learn data all day long. They learn stories.
And I think we should tell stories in the positive light of the American nation, of American history, and that's especially while they're growing up in their most formative years when they're young. We're being Ryan Gurdusky and he is the founder of seventeen seventy six projectpac dot com. That's where the that's the website you can go to learn about the Superpack to teach the American founding in schools as something to be celebrated and so and an American
history to be celebrated. And I want and I want to I just want to emphasize one important thing the sixteen nineteen project, which is pushed by The New York Times and created by that emphasizes falsehoods of American history, the sixteen nineteen uh project since there and says the American Revolution was fought over slavery, not the Civil War.
The American Revolution is the British one to out out slavery, outset that Colin mccolliners didn't, the colonies didn't, which is in completely false, never happened, but that is taught in thirty five hundred classrooms in this country. This is not a blue state issue. This is not a just a you know, a blue city issue. This is in red cities, in red counties, you know, in publican stronghold. This is
being propagated for children. And I understand that the Republican narrative, the conservative narrative for decades, it's been get your kids at a public school. I completely understand that. I agree with that. However, a majority of children will always go to public school in this country. There's I mean, that
is that is the case we're in. So unless we fight over curriculum and what is actually being taught, we are we are conceding the entire next generation to these immense falsehoods and these characterizations that their country is a horrible places and horrible things and there is no redeeming qualities. Ryan, is there a committee of advisors for what the seventeen seventy six curriculum that your your superpack would want instituted
in schools? I mean, can people see what the curriculum is ord they get So there's a couple of plays. We're not at that level yet. We just I mean, we just launched yesterday, so it's now we're not all fundraising and trying to find candidates who would even do it. And then there's a couple of places. Hillsdale College has a great education plan when it comes to history. Claremont University is trying to create their own curriculum. So I'm
going to look at what's available. Probably I'm not writing the curriculum. I don't have the credentials to do that, but there are conservative thinkers who do have who have been writing that curriculum, who will that I will stem from, and then hopefully as I find candidates across the country, I will provide them without literature and say, look, this is what we want. Once you're elected, Ryan Gurdusky, everybody founder of the seventeen seventy six Project Pack. It's a
superpack looking to do things on education. Or do you think Ryan, as we look at this issue, do you think that the the pushback on critical race theory is gaining steam because more and more people have been exposed to what it is like because they've been at home with Zoom learning, and you know, the parents are actually seeing it because it feels like there's a real there's a real wave going on now that I mean, that's how I became interested in my godson, who was ten
years old. He was taught in a Zoom classroom that police cars only go after black cars, not after white cars. And it was incredibly racist story about how policing is and it's an inherently racist thing. I mean, he's ten years old. This is not a high school class, this is not a college class. This is where they're they're pushing this, and most Americans reject this narrative. Most Americans
are every race reject this narrative. Because you are born white does not mean you are inherently born privilege or racist. It doesn't mean you have a systemic racism flowing through your blood. Because you're born non white does not mean you're a victim or you have a crutch so you can't overcome anything. I mean, this is a ridiculous narrative
that hurts children of any race that there is. And yeah, I think there is a tremendous pushback over a recent pole I read said over seventy five percent of Americans opposed this teaching in schools. Most incredibly oppose it. And it's just a matter of trying to win this from the activists who are who have ingratiated themselves in our public education discourse. Now seventeen seventy six, projectpac dot com founded by Ryan Grdusky, Ryan, good luck with this, comeback
and tell us how it's going. Thank you. We'll do. The Fast and the Furious movies are absurd, and I think just I don't understand why anyone likes them. I really, I mean maybe the first, or the second, or the third, or maybe the fourth, fifth, six, I mean they're they're now at Fast and Furious nine. They made nine of these movies which are basically just about people going room room room room in cars and like driving around and doing crazy things that no one can actually do in cars.
But I look at to each his own. If you enjoy that, fine, I don't care. That doesn't really matter. I'm not a film critic, although I do play one on radio sometimes. But this is this is important because of what it shows you about the power and reach of China in American society and when it comes to American public figures, actors, politicians. John Senna is it Sena or Senna Sena, John Sena whatever. I don't even know this guy relates. He's an actor, acts as a wrestler actor.
He is in Fast and Furious nine. He was doing press, uh you know, press pieces promotion for Fast and Furious nine. But in an interview he said, while he was doing press for Fast and Furious nine, he called Taiwan a country. Now Taiwan is in fact a country, but China is very very sensitive about this. The Chinese Communist Party is
just rabid about issues relating to Taiwan. And so John s had to go on uh signa wiebo and which is a website in China, social media platform in China, and say, uh, say in Chinese, this is I just want to hear this. This is John Sina speaking in Chinese with Chinese subtitles. Because from what I understand, his accent is, his intonation is not very good, so it's
hard for Chinese speakers to really understand him. But he goes in Chinese, this American actor to apologize for calling Taiwan a country play a well bu shenzai us So he whoa your ego? I mean, my gosh, this guy talk about having to get up there and gravel. Okay, so he is a a pretty globally famous wrestler. Actor's obviously a multi multi millionaire, and you know, he is apparently a big Make a Wish Foundation guy. So he's doing something he's looking I'm sure he's a good guy,
but this is just embarrassing. But he's probably being told, well, if you don't do this, China, make pull our film and everybody worked on the film and everybody who's put all this time and money into it and everything else. You know, this could cost jobs. So you know, I get, I understand there's pressure. I'm not you know, it's not as easy as as it can sometimes seem to take
a take a stand here. I'm not bashing John Cena for this, although it is kind of the fifth It looks craven, right, but I'm not bashing John Cena so much as I'm trying to point out this is how much power China has. They the Chinese government can make a globally famous American multi millionaire bend the knee and beg forgiveness for saying something that is true. That's what's all they is saying something that is accurate China. Taiwan is a country, it is a nation state, it has
its own government, it's recognized by the international community. And yet he has to say sorry, yes, say sorry. Absolutely absurd, but this is the situation. This is how powerful now China's sensitivities are. So just remember that as you're watching movies this summer. Okay, before we get into roll call, because I was just talking about this, I wanted to clarify a little bit. I said that Taiwan is a country,
and it is, but it is a little complicated. If you look at this status of Taiwan, it's there's some weird stuff going on. Okay, So I mean, for example, the the occurred certain situations. Seventeen countries recognize Taiwan's democratic government, which is known as the Republic of China, but the United the United Nations believes that the People's Republic of
China in Beijing speaks for the island of Taiwan. So you have a situation where twenty plus million Taiwanese citizens can travel anywhere in the world on a Taiwanese passport which says the Republic of China which is Taiwan, but they can't actually enter a UN building with them. So you know, there are some Now, Taiwan is a country, and I am very pro Taiwan for whatever that's worth, but I just wanted to know that there are some weird there's a it's a weird situation with the way
the world treats it. So there are a number of countries that treat it as a full country, full diplomatic relations, but the US relationship, even with Taiwan, is a little more complete. Here here's how they wrote about it in the Atlantic. This was in twenty nineteen. After nine years of construction, more than four hundred American diplomats and staff have moved into new offices in Taipei, capital of Taiwan, a two hundred and fifty million dollar compound built into
a lush hill with security provided by Marines. Employees will offer American citizens in Taiwan consular services and help Taiwanese obtain visas to visit the United States, just as they would anywhere else in the world. Yet this is not
an embassy or a consulate, at least officially. Instead, it is the American Institute in Taiwan, a name that suggests a research center rather than a amatic mission, the result of a geopolitical compromise that, while far from the biggest of Taiwan's problems, illustrates the ludicrous situation Taiwan finds itself in. It is not recognized as a country by its most important ally, the United States. And so that anyway, end quote there, that's a piece by Chris Horton on Taiwan's status.
So I mean we treated like a country, we give it many of the rights of a country, a separate country.
But then there are these ways in which we do this sort of you know, bending the knee to the Chinese instead of the Republic of China, the People's Republic of China and Beijing storyline that Taiwan is a part of China, even though if you knowity history, you know about happened with the chen Kai Shek and you know what happened with the Chinese effective civil war with the Communis anyway, Yea, So I wanted to clarify all that because, yeah, I mean, I think it is right to say Taiwan
is a country, but there are some weird, some weird situations round. Okay, with that, we we have our before or no, let's let's get to roll call hit it. The show ain't over yet, folks, It's time for roll call producer Mark, what is going on with you? Man? We wanted to check in see how our buddy is doing. What's the latest and greatest in your world? Well, I'm just hoping to not get hurt because apparently anyone affiliated with the New York Mets is injured right now. Oh,
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with all these guys. It's just freak injuries. Some guys have crash into walls. One guy got hit in the face with a baseball. I don't know. I don't know if you saw that last week. But a guy named Kevin Pollaro the Mets got hit directly in the face with a ninety nine mile per hour fastball and he looks like it but he's completely okay. He just needs to He broke his nose, he had surgery, but you know,
other than that, he's fine. Wow. Crazy, m interesting all right, Well, um, crazy stuff going on, Producer Mark, I'm glad, he say, Look, if you have to suit up though, at least all of Team buck will be rooting for you all across the country. Absolutely. I'll make sure to send out the highlights to the buck Sexton Twitter account if that happens. There we go. Gina first up in Roll Call. Remember if you want to be a part of Roll Call,
Facebook dot com, slashbuck Sexton or Team Bucket, iHeartMedia dot com. Um, let's let's get to it. She writes, what is going on with the Durham report? And that is a great question because yeah. Yeah, I hate to be the guy that's always like I told you so, but I've been say it all along here. Don't get your hopes up for there to be some big moment of justice and recognition of the deep state coup against Trump and all that. Nope. Um,
they're they're gonna bear this Democrat administration. If there is anything that comes out of the Drham Report, they will bury it. They will bury it. Um. It's not gonna mean very much. There'll be something released and they'll just say we've seen the you know Merrick Garland, who showing what little partisan hackey is. He's saying the January sixth insurrection was, you know, like nine to eleven. I mean, Merrick Garland's a joke. That guy was gonna be in
the Supreme Court. Everybody a little hack Merrick Garland. Oh, but he's so moderate and freasonable. They all said, yeah, please, a bunch of liars. We all knew that. But yeah, as the Derm Report ever coming out, Gina, your guess is as good as mine. But if by coming out, you mean do anything while Biden's in office, the answers, No, it will not, it will do nothing. It will do nothing.
So people who are telling you just wait, just wait, and you know, day after day, updates, updates, updates on all the information coming out about you know, the deep State's gonna get its come up ins. Nope, that did not happen. The deep state did not get its come up ins at all. I mean, you know, you could point to a couple of people that suffered minor, minor consequences for their attempted use of the federal government to
essentially undo the twenty sixteen presidential election. So there you have it, all right, here we go, Debrah Oh Another satisfied customer. My husband has the radio on all day long in the car, and as I sat and listened to you, I became extremely agitated about your take on remote teachers being lazy. I do think you need to hear what is like being a remote Department of Education teacher. You have no idea what it is like to keep
ten year olds engaged for five hours a day. You are dealing with their emotion, academic, and social needs while dealing with some parents that could care less about their achievements, while the large majority want the best for their kids and worry about their health. I work fourteen hours a day teaching, designing curriculum to enhance the horrendous curriculum for thirty regular education and special education students, marking their work
as well as contacting parents. Please don't lump the teachers that do their job with a few bad apples. Many of us care about the kids. Every Friday, I stream movies or have a game night that the kids can socialize. I've gotten donations from home Depot Kids Building Kids, and driven to each child's house three time so far. I made sure they had Halloween, Christmas and Spring packages. I know I'm not the only Department of Education teacher that goes above and beyond. We love our kids and want
them to succeed. All right, Deborah, First of all, thank you for the work you're doing and for making a difference for all those kids. This is one of the one of the challenges of doing commentary about things like the teachers unions at the situation of public schools across the country is I am effectively describing what is a widespread problem, but not on every case problem involving hundreds of thousands of employees of the Department of Education across
the country. So yes, I think I always try to say, and I think I have said, of course, there are great teachers out there, and it sounds like you are one of them, and so at some level I think you should know. Of course, I'm not talking to you, Deborah. I'm not telling you that you're not doing good job
or you're being lazy. I know from many parents friends of mine who are parents, that the zoom teaching that their children are subjected to is like the equivalent of a DJ who presses play on the playlist and then goes and has a sandwich and just sort of lets it. I'll just go that there's very little effort to do the kind of things you're talking about. And the reason the teachers unions are fighting so hard for this is that for a lot of teachers, staying home and doing
zoom is easier and less work. And I also know that from people who work for the Department of Education. So while I think while your note is well taken and I appreciate it and it adds necessary perspective, I would also still point out that not having to commute and show up in person is easier, is easier than having to do so, so zoom is going to be preferable for people who want to do less work and have an easier job. Do some teachers who zoom teach
go above and beyond? Sure, of course, but kids, I mean I would ask you, Debra, and you can write and let us know, do you think that you'd be better able to do your job in person? I'm sure you would say yes, but I would want to hear it from you. I would guess the answers yes. So my point then still stands it should all be in person. The people who are fighting to continue Zoom teaching are people that want to be able to do their jobs
with less work and less difficulty. You are being forced to do your job via Zoom and are going above and beyond. So I'm clearly not actually referring to you when I'm criticizing those who seek to stay at home and do Zoom forever. Or I mean, am I missing something? But hey, I appreciate it. Appreciate your husband listens to the show, your teaching, I'm not your perspective is valued, and I thank you for writing in Cody, Hello Bucking producer. Mark big fan of the show. I listened to the
podcast every day. I enjoy all of it. From the history lessons to hammering Fauci and calling him from the beginning on what he is a tyrant. I work on a mine in Nevada, and it's upsetting to hear that because they shut down Vegas and lose that income. Now they're coming after the minds to make up the revenue. I hope the minds can withstand this and survive because they provide great paying jobs for a lot of people. My wife is a dog breeder and has doodles and cavapoos.
They're a hardy, non shedding dog that will be the size of Tallulah. I heard you expressing interest in a dog and if these interests you let me know we can get a freedom hunt deal worked out. Thanks so much for the entertainment you provide me on a daily basis. Keep up the great Workshield Tide well, Cody, thank you so much, and thank you for the kind offer of a doodle or a cavapoo. I'm sure they are great. My brother has a cavapoo, so he loves it. I mean,
cavapoo is adorable. And as for what else did we get into here entertaining you man the Cody, It is my honor and privilege, and for everyone who joins every day, whether on radio or listening on a podcast, thank you for giving us your time and for keeping producer Mark and me employed. All right, coming back here with some more roll call. We have Andy running hey Buck and master producer Mark listening to your Friday podcast about the
nine level nine eleven style investigation. I would be one hundred percent five with it if they included the summer twenty twenty BLM riots and who was responsible for starting that. A summer of burning down buildings, having military style weapons, and causing the death or injury of dozens requires an investigation more than one hundred idiots rushing the capitol, does Andy,
I can tell you this for sure. They absolutely will not and have no interest in including any of the BLM riots, any of the political violence of the left in a January sixth commission. That's why they're calling it the January sixth Commission. They want to make sure it focuses only on that day and no other days, no other events about political violence in America, because that would not go to the narrative and the Republicans that want
to play along with this. I really don't think it's because they can't they can't understand what would happen here. I don't believe it's because they're so stupid that they don't see what this would really mean. I think it's because they're so in love with their own virtue and with the pad on the head they get from the elite media from the Democrats. There are some Republicans who, it seems really do just exist to get crumbs thrown
to them from Democrats. There are some Republicans for whom whatever a little sliver of approval they can get from their political opponents, that seems to be their their primary motivator. On any given day. The thing that gets them the most excited is how can I get a pat on the head from the Libs? And it's it's a sad circumstance, but it's a very real one. And we have to be aware of who those people are and the kind
of things that they say. And do you know Mitt Romney has said, for example, Mitt Romney has come out and said that he would vote for a commission. Yeah, of course he would. Of course he would vote for a commission. On January sixth, because Mitt Romney's favorite thing to do is to stick his thumb in the in the eye of his own side. That's something that gets Mitt Romney excited. He loves to be the one that shows Republicans how they are learning from his example, from
Mitt Romney's example, and that's just a troubling circumstance. Do you want to make sure everyone also is going to Buck Sxton dot com and checking in there. We've got stories getting posted, We've got the ability to listen to the podcast there, and please do Oh guys, I've got a couple of a couple of things here that I
meant to get to that I did not. Texas does constitutional carry, so you don't need any kind of a permit for a concealed weapon or training because you've got the second strongest, or rather the strongest Second Amendment bill in history. There. That's I meant to get that. And then Elizabeth Warren wants to triple the size of the IRS. I mentioned that the very very top of the show. We will have to get to this both of those
stories tomorrow. Look, the notion of tripling the size of the IRS, just in general, should terrify any person with good sense who understands what the state the big s state wants to do. But these are those are I knew there are a couple of stories that I did not get to today and that I wanted to get to today, So we'll revisit some of those tomorrow. Those are we'll take mulligans like on the golf course. We'll hit those two stories tomorrow. In the meantime, please do
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