Riots And Looting Are Not Protests

is the Buck Sexton Show. Thomas CIA analysts Again. I can speak to three hours without a phone call. Try doing that sometime. No, welcome everybody, Thank you so much for joining me. It was troubling, to say the least, last night as the video was circulating all over social media of what was going on in Minneapolis. Now, I'm I'm so frustrated. Yesterday I was saying, I think this is going to start another another movement like we've seen in the past in the aftermath of violence involving a

police officer. This, this case is this is a bad one. I mean, this one is not. This is not a situation in which I feel like we have to get a lot more information before. Now that's different from the legal process that the officer involved deserves. You know, even a even a mass murderer under our constitution, gets a legal process. My friends, Now the officer is not a mass murderer. But you understand what I'm saying. Everyone gets a a gets their due process, gets a fair process.

That said, the video is enough that this is a wrong that was done. People see this across the country and they recognize how terrible it is. They understand that this requires justice. The officers have already been fired. The mayor of Minneapolis is almost in tears talking about the case. It's a gut punch to everybody I know who's watching it. I had right wing conservatives in the media texting me

just to be like, did you see this video? This is terrible and instead of viewing this now, look there there's going to be this game the media plays of pretending that that protests and riots are kind of similar or you can't really differentiate. No, a protest is a constitutionally protected act, and the right to protest is something

that we should all respect. Oh, that's right, even when there's COVID nineteen, even when the government is telling you that they have some other compelling interest to prevent you from being able to protest. It is a constitutional right. They don't get to just suspend it because they're worried

about the spread of COVID nineteen. They're not able to They're not allowed to do that, although they have been doing it, so I mean they shouldn't be able to do it, is what I what I mean by this, And the protests in Minneapolis would certainly be warranted, although there's really no movement against justice for the family here

of George Floyd. There's no movement of people that are saying, oh, well, this was I have not heard a single person claim that this video was not terrible and that the officers should not be punished to the fullest extent of the law. What does looting have to do with any of this? You know, why do we have to pretend, for I'm raising as a society that people going in to a target or going into an auto zone. I mean, I

was watching these videos circulating last night. This is a Minneapolis not not a place that you think of as high crime or a place that that has to deal with with problems like this. You know, this is appalling to watch. You have these stores that are are being looted and burned to the ground. People are actually burning them to the ground. There was one video of a

guy running around during the looting with a chainsaw. And yet you have these social justice advocates and the people that make a living from fanning the flames of racial division and grievance, who, if not openly advocating for the looting, always find a way to make it seem less awful or to make it seem less completely unjustifiable by saying, well, people are rightly angry about this. You have a right to be angry. You don't have a right to burn

down your own neighborhood. You don't have a right to destroy the property of individuals who have absolutely nothing to do with these cops and what they did. You know, if if you take if you believe injustice and you think that individual actions are not are not the foundational you know, the central issue that the individual either doing or not doing something is not the central issue of

the justice system. You're opening up the possibility that anyone can be punished for anything, that any one of us can be a sacrifice to someone else's political anger or concerns, or some other injustice, perhaps even a historical injustice. You could have your house burned down because of something that was done fifty or one hundred or two hundred years ago. Unless individual agency, responsibility and moral culpability are the foundation of our justice system and also our sense of what

is right. I cannot be punished for the actions of another person's that's wrong. That's immoral, destroying property of people, destroying property, burning down businesses all and you know, we all we know this, you know this, listening to the to me say it. And yet the media doesn't want to come down too harshly on these protesters. Don't see I just did it. Rioters. You gotta make sure you keep these things separate. It's not rioting, is not protesting.

These are not the same right. Holding up a placard is not the same thing as punching someone in the face. These are not the same. We don't get to pretend they are. So don't let the media get away with it. Because they view particularly racial division as an opportunity to

push ratings up, to push forward favored narratives. For a lot of posturing from multi millionaire news anchors and left wing journalists all over the place to act like they care so much about oppress minority communities and that they're the ones that really want justice in this situation. And anybody who's calling out the rioters, let's use the proper terminology. No one calls out the protesters, and I can totally understand people wanting to protest over what happened to George Floyd.

Now it's come out that the officer in question who had the knee on the neck of Floyd for I've seen over nine minutes. The video I watch was five minutes, but I've seen it said it was over nine minutes. They are multiple complaints against him in the past, so the officer may well have been somebody who should have

been disciplined beforehand. There is going to be huge liability for the city of Minneapolis, and I'm willing to bet right now that the family of George Floyd is going to get a very very large payout in a civil suit as result of this. I know that doesn't bring them back, but I'm just saying that no one is expecting this to go in any direction other than these cops, particularly the one cop wit. His knee and his neck are in a whole lot of trouble. And this is

a terrible injustice. So what's with the looted? What are the what are the looters think that they are showing? Now? The looters are just using this as an excuse. It's an excuse. They're angry. They're not particularly angry about this, they're just angry in general, and so they want to destroy, they want to threaten, they want to ruin, and they're looking for some justification, some excuse in their own mind for this activity. I mean, it's terrible, especially given what

the country is going through right now. You're burning down businesses. Those businesses are you know, employee people who are hoping to come back to work soon. Who knows what that's It's just it's awful to see this. And there's this video that's making the rounds of a woman coming out of a store and she's in a wheelchair and she's attacked by a mob of looters and a spray a fire extinguisher on her and the people are throwing things at her and hitting her. It's an elderly woman in

a wheelchair. I think that the decision that was made to pull back the police in Minneapolis is wrong. I think that until we decide that you're going to enforce the law when it comes to burning down buildings, stealing on mass, I think that we're going to continue to see this. You know, law enforcement has a duty here and to say, oh, it's too dangerous for my officers.

You know, so and so. Now is it? If you get a mob together, they can break the law and cops don't want to have to do anything about it. I think about the implications of that. If one person does something illegal, the cops will use force, escala force. They'll you know, they'll hit you with a with a night stick or with a baton. They'll they'll mess you up, man.

I mean cops. Cops have to use force, have to use violence, and they will, in fact, not just draw their tasers, they'll draw their firearms if they have to. In this case, you're burning down buildings. They don't know if there's with this kind of arson, that's a threat to human life. I mean, that's a felony. You don't know if there's someone asleep somewhere in that building. You don't know if there's someone who's trapped somehow inside you know,

cleaning late at night. These buildings are lit up in flames. No one knows. Arson's a very serious crime. Just stealing is a felony. You know, mob violence undermine society at its very core, and the Minneapolis cops just let them burn down the neighborhood. Really well, maybe people would be less likely to loot if looters were being hit with rubber bullets and wrestle to the ground and handcuffed. Now you know, you can tell me, oh buck, they don't

do that. We just went through a couple of months here of cops arresting people for the crime of not wearing a mask in public and in some cases wrestling them, throwing them face first into the cement. That happened here in New York, arresting people in public parks for being with their kids because of stupid pseudoscience promoted by scared psycho libs who want Trump to lose that you can't be in open air without a mask on. So you

know that the cops have been able there. They'll shut down businesses, you know, they'll show up and do all this stuff, but looting, violence, threat to life, threat to property. Cops in Minneapolis called away from the scene. Sorry, don't want to don't want to get too deep into this one. It's wrong, it's wrong. It's just caving to mob violence. Looting as nothing to do with justice. Looting is an

injustice inherently every time. It's not a little bit more okay, it's not a little bit less awful because people are upset. I'm upset about a lot of things. I'm not going to go burn down a store down the street to show my rage. What if I walk down the street and decided that I was just going to take a baseball bat and swinging at somebody's head because I'm upset

about something, It's garbage. Anybody who here out there who's downplaying this is a coward, is a phony, is someone who should not be listened to, and honestly should be condemned. Oh there's anger about this, yeah, you protest when there's anger. You don't destroy people's livelihoods. You don't threaten people and destroy property because you're upset, and even having to talk

with it has nothing to do with that. This is just the exploitation of a circumstance by individuals acting collectively to express rage and do what they feel like to act on an impulse that they've had that finally now they see an opening and there needs to be much more aggressive pushback against this. Uh you know that this is this is where the cops have got to be willing to use force. You know what else are we

going to say? Anytime somebody wants to burn down a neighborhood because they're upset about an incident involving race and the police, that's we're just gonna allow that to happen. Look what's happened in Baltimore, Look what's happening in Ferguson, Missouri, and now it's happening in Minnesota. Unacceptable, unacceptable. Um, this is this is an injustice and the people who are not calling it out for that, like I said, they're cowards. They're not worthy of your time. You're in the hut.

This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. Basically, you see less likely to try and tread on people's rights when there's other armed Americans with them. So there's bad damn time. That's some release. I figure that's bout damn time heavily armed rednecks stood with fellow citizens. And why are you protecting this store? Well, I mean this wasn't exactly a special Latin were getting kind of aco. So Bams guy

ended up here. We we've been moving around and just trying to see what we see what's loved without getting necessarily completely slapped by massive groups of people. And while we were walking, somebody mentioned that there were some guys had the battles after we want to up there, we're gonna buy something, and they said that they're they're closed and they're defending the businesses. Oh yeah, talks on fire

yea by the way. Yeah, but anyway, so we heard that were like, well, we better, we better kid up and go see these guys and eat help. It turns out these guys are rocket with a sheet and shattered windows, trying to keep looters out of the business because cops can't get in here. And so you know, I figured before they were cops, they were just Americans. So here we are already on during the LA riots, the collateral damage.

So bottom line, justin for Floyd and uh, I hope they stopped looting at some point if there were more of us when you go stop, we definitely don't agree with the definite protesting. Two gentlemen too, self described rednecks standing with rifles outside of a pawn shop right near They could see the looting going on. And I think this will be unsurprising, but as I as I last checked, uh, they they prevented the store from being burnt out, destroyed,

perhaps more violence occurring, individuals coming under risk. It's all. It took two guys standing outside of it. Actually, I'm sorry, there are four of them, pardon me in that video, um, two of them self described as rednecks standing outside of store, saying that they're just going to help out and protect it. They're not going to allow looting, which is a terrifying thing, to destroy someone's business and burn it to the ground

and perhaps engage. There was violence against people. I mean, a woman in a wheelchair, for having's sake, was attacked by one of these angry mobs. Two guys standing outside prevent this from happening. Imagine if the cops were believed to be No. The thing about those two guys that the two I keep saying two, they're the ones talking.

There are four of them, actually four armed men. I'm quite sure that if you threw a brick at one of their heads, or you surrounded them and they felt in fear of their lives, they would use their weapons to defend themselves, and they would be right to do so. The protesters know that they can throw rocks at cops, they can burn down stores. I set it again, darn it. The rioters see this is what this is. So the media propaganda is so pernicious. I've been reading about protests

in this morning when it's not about protests. We're not even talking about protests. There's riots. These are riots. Have to use the proper terminology. But this is this is actually kind of an instruction and how the propaganda works. You just you read a word enough, you see it enough, and it seeps into your mind, and even when you don't want to say it, you end up saying it. But this shows you that a couple of armed patriots just trying to help out their fellow citizen can really

step in and make a difference. And they were saying exactly what should be said. They think that what happened to George Floyd was atrocious. They support protests, but they don't support rioting and looting and the destruction of public property. That the threats against people burning down buildings and unlike the cops in Minneapolis. These four men were willing to do something about it to actually help some people. Oh look at that. Thanks for listening to The Bus Sesson

Show podcasts. Remember to subscribe on Apple podcasts, the iHeartRadio app, or wherever you get your podcasts. I just want to say, before we transition into some updates on what's going on with COVID nineteen and all of that, there seems to be a media narrative that that keeps popping up of Oh, why is it so I've seen numerous journalists, Uh, Julia Yaffi is one of them, why is this looting so bad? In comparison to the guys who stormed the Michigan State

Capitol with firearms? The people who went into the Michigan State Capitol didn't break any loss, didn't destroy anything, it didn't didn't didn't attack anyone. I this is very obvious, but it just shows you. You know, there's there's a desire among the left wing media to have to have some way of showing their sympathy, not for protesters, not for the family of George Floyd, which is completely understandable, and that's a sympathy that I have no there's sympathy

with the looters though. That's you know, if you're a real dedicated leftist s JW, a social justice warrior, then you need to find a way to have sympathy for the people who are burning down stores and destroying things like this. And that's just appalling and it's a dangerous, destructive game. The media plays with all this and it's truly very very frustrating to watch, and it also gets

them them ratings. But there's an obvious separation between what happened in Minneapolis, lots of law breaking, destruction of property and violence, and what happened at the Michigan State House where you had individuals who were lawfully caring. Now, is it a judgment call that I would make to go carry in Michigan State House like that? I wouldn't do it, but I don't condemn those who do. They're allowed. It's

within law. It's a Second Amendment, so I understand. Also, I'll look, I'm glad there's some people who are early on in this process, we're speaking out against what is tyrannical and what's going on in this country with this COVID nineteen thing is tyrannical. There's no question about it. But there's Oh and if you're wondering where all this is going, I mean, here is a gentleman the name of Vin Gupta on Masks play Cliff four producer Mark.

I think we need a law, Willie. And the fact that we passed the laws for banning indoor smoking becautween. Exposure to secondhand smoke is detrimentally your health and you can't just rely on recommendations. Unfortunately, behaviors or behaviors human beings are peculiar, and they're a lot tend to be cynical. And I understand why people don't want to wear masks. I don't want to wear a mask if I can avoid it. I'm sure you don't want to wear a

mask if you can avoid it. It's frightening to children. So now is the time of urgency. We do not have time to assure all Americans along on this policy. We have to be strong. That's doctor Vin Gutta on on MSNBC playing into this mask frenzy that's going on. And now, oh and so now it has to be mandatory to wear a mask. There must be the force of law behind you wearing a mask. I want to be very clear about this. They have no argument that

they will make in response to this point. If masks are compulsory as a function of law for you anywhere outside your home, which is what they are now demanding, why would masks ever not to be compulsory outside the home. The seasonal flu hits us every year. There are millions and millions of cases, and there are tens of thousands of people who die every year. The fact that there's

I mean, there are morons out there. There's one I came across that MSNBC one of the dumber correspondents they have, who think, oh, we have a vaccine for the flu. About forty percent of the adult population any given year gets it, and it generally is a crapshoot whether it even works. And they say, oh, we update the flu vaccine later in the season. Yeah. Do you think people

go get multiple if they're at very high risk. Maybe, but most people are like, well, I missed it this year, and you still have a lot of people who get it, a lot of people who die. If it saves just one life, that's how we've been push into this, right, that's the entry point of this tyranny. If it saves just one life, Well, we could save lives if masks work with respiratory diseases, which I know we're supposed to take as an article of not just an article of faith.

We're supposed to believe that this is gospel, this is the absolute truth. Even though there's CDC study that says it still up on the website says that for influenza doesn't really make much of a difference with masks. Now, do I think that if you have a full on you know, plexiglass, self contained breathing apparatus and everything like, yeah, that'll prevent you from getting it, but a little piece of cloth across your mouth? Come on? But this is

all about control. This is about making people do what the people in power want them to do. And it's also it's also about forcing you to psychologically bend the knee here. And that's one of the reasons I find this so very troubling, because I think that mask wearing in public is stupid, an infringement on my rights, and just part of the hysteria and the attitude of overreach and control at any cost that has been so pervasive

during this whole phenomenon. But if I go out and I wear a mask, and I wear a mask, then it becomes, oh, you're doing what you're told. Oh, excuse me, mister, we shouldn't wear a mask. Here's a photo of you wearing a mask. Right, you've complied. You're now a part of it. You know, it's like and then this is an extreme example, but it's the first thing that comes to mind. Well, I'll come up with a less extreme example. You know, what's one of the ways that they'll put

you that they do gang initiation. How do you get a gang initiation? Well, a lot of times it's commit a serious crime, a felony, usually a violent felony. Well, once you've done that, everything else you're going to be subjected to in this gang what other people are doing. You know, you're a violent felon too, So how are you going to say, hey, guys, we shouldn't do that. Don't do that thing. You're already a part of it. So with this mask mania, they want the law to

force you all to do it. So then you're a hypocrite if you go out with a mask on because you're told you have to. They say, oh, you're protecting yourself. I mean, I come across this too with the idiot lives. I mean, I get targeted for this, but I don't care. I've become somebody that they'll go after because I've been a skeptic of this for a long time, longer than almost anybody looking at this, and those you're listening to

the show know that. For about two weeks, I was like, Wow, we're in really bad shape here, because all the numbers were telling us this is terrible. We're about to get you know, we had I watched from my window in real time as a hospital ship was floating by because

our hospitals were going to be overwhelmed. I had friends sending me photos from their window of hospitals being set up in Central Park to deal with all the overflow because all these people were going to be arriving and dying in the street before that he even get into the ear and there wouldn't be ano ventilators. And this is what every government authority was telling us at that time. Now I was somebody who said we should never I put this out on Twitter, and I got a tremendous

amount of heat and targeting. I said, no matter what, we should continue to go, you know, no matter what we face after the initial fifteen days, we should go back to work. I don't care what they're telling us. Oh my gosh. And then they're also, oh, well, you're stuck in your you know, your fancy apartment. For us, well it's not fancy, it's small. But while you're still going to your apartment, you know, being goal saved, you want other people know. I want to be out. I'm

out all the time. But they'd like to try to hit you with hypocrisy to undermine your argument. I'm going to stores. I'm not wearing masks wherever I can get away with it. At this point, now I can't even walk around my own building without a mask on common space. It's absolutely, absolutely absurd. But they do want to make

this mandatory. After it went from not worth anyone's time to please do it till you better do it or else, and it went through that very quickly, very quickly, indeed, and now they want the law to mandate that you have to do this. I'm sorry. This is a very very bad sign for those of us who value autonomy and freedom and individual rights. And it's also such a clear political symbol for the left now too. Why do people explain to me why people have their avatars now

on Twitter with a face mask on. I mean, maybe if they think it's just marking this point in history or something. I'm not saying everybody who does this is doing it in a weird way that's weirdly political. But for most people that I'm seeing, it's you know, look at me. I'm a mask wearer because I believe in the science. I really believe in the science. How many of the mask wearers have had a prology test to find out if they should wear a mask at all?

You care so much about the science, shouldn't you know if you've already been exposed, have antibodies and therefore can neither infect others nor be infected yourself, according to signs Now that that's that's too proactive, more fun to take selfies with your mask on, you know, Biden twenty twenty mask on. It's it's absurd, it's outrageous. But there's also there's a bit of heat now coming on this one

because people are think recognizing the economic catastrophe. We're going to be feeling this for a long time, and folks are upset about it, and there are states that did not get hit hard by this. That should not have locked down. It was not worth it for them. Here is really a progressive elitist of the journo finance establishment. Andrew Sorkin and Joe Kernan on CNBC they had quite

a little squabble over those play clip three. I'm sorry, No, you're not, No, you're not, Joe, I'm sorry, Okay, I'll hid with the news. You panicked about the mark It, panicked about COVID, panicked about the ventilators, panicked about the PPE, panicked about ever going out again, panicked and you ever get back to normous if you didn't take their head. I understand that thousand people died, Joe, and all you did was try to help your friends. The president, whoa oh,

a hundred thousand people. He's yelling at him. It's like, dude, we all know that that's just the way that's you're going to handle everything. Now that that justifies, you know, just that talking point justifies every decision that has been made and will be made. What if the decisions were wrong, What if it didn't save any lives? What if we're gonna lose even more lives because of the decision to try to save lives with the lockdown. That wasn't even

the right decision because it didn't save lives. There is a real possibility that we didn't save any lives by doing this, and we will lose a lot of lives through our action that did not save lives. Alcohol abuse, overdose from drugs, suicide, depression, undiagnosed cancer. I mean, just go through the list. No, but there were people who had a solid month of feeling really brave and virtuous. Lockdown forever, as long as it takes until there's a

vaccine lockdown. I believe in sciences. People say they believe in science. They don't even believe in reading. They don't know anything. You're in the freedom hunt. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast, The Nursing Home. The obbligations on the nursing home to say I can't take a COVID positive person. I'm too crowded, I'm too busy, i don't have enough ppe whatever the answer is, doesn't even matter. If they say I can't take the person, they can't

take the person. So that's that's how it works. Oh, blame the nursing homes. That's the latest from Governor Governor Cuomo. Let's understand something here, friends. He has gone from I you know, we've seen Cuomo go from sexiest man alive. You know. In the press, that's what they were saying. There were people, according to the New York Posts, who were calling themselves Cuomo sexuals and selling T shirts and like thong underwear with Cuomo's face. And I'm not making

this up. This was actually happening because he was such a savior, because he gave the briefing every day and let explain what's going on the briefing. So every day he would look at the slides and eventually, what's worth of turning into this? You know, we're all in this together. And that was a means of you, this is the thing that Cuomo is doing every day. And and producer Mark points out there was a I'm trying to think of how to say this, there was a Was that

a real thing? Yes, people legitimately thought that he had an object sticking out of his chests that area to chest, the area that was pierced. I think people can put the clues together there. Yeah, I remember seeing that. I wasn't sure that was I thought that was like a Babylon be thing, but maybe it was real. So okay, now we have the data in and now we see what the results were, and what it all tells us

is sure enough. Cuomo did a horrible job. And he had this executive order on March twenty fifth that said the nursing homes have to take COVID positive patients back into the nursing home. This was because they had been told or he believed that they would run out of room in the hospitals. Do I say room funny? Snow Princess says, I say room funny? Yeah, you kind of say room everyone. He said, I don't know why I say this word strange. Do you watch Family? Guy? That's

so Stewie says it. Oh, Stewie, I've got to work on my stee impersonation because it used to be pretty good and just speaking, you do it? Oh? Thanks, So going back here for a second of what Cuomo did.

Cuomo made terrible decisions, and you know, the media was celebrating him and saying he's a hero and all this great stuff all the time Cuomo was making terrible decisions for the state of New York and has dragged out the lockdown for much longer than it needed to be in New York State and here in New York City, and they don't have the numbers to back up what they were doing and the policy and everything else, and

it's just been it's just been a debacle. But about a week maybe two weeks ago, he started saying, well, it's the federal government's fault that we were that was the CDC GUIDs. Now he's saying, oh, it's actually the fault of the nursing homes that took the people back. Well,

why how is it there if he's signing an executive order. Remember, now, the governor of New York State thinks that he can tell you you can't leave your home, you can't open your business, or the state troopers are going to come after you. You know, if he signs an executive order saying you got to take people back, how is he then able to turn around and say, well, actually, actually we aren't going to take responsibility for this. It's on

you in the nursing homes. I mean, the stats, the stats on what has happened here with nursing homes across the country are just it's it's horrific beyond words. You have something along the line. I'm trying to find it exactly, but you have. You know, less than two percent of the country is in nursing homes. It's something like one point something percent I believe is an assisted living facilities of some kind. And the death toll from COVID nineteen

across the board is close to forty percent. And just that's not forty percent seniors, that's forty percent in assistant living facilities. This was the big threat, you know, this was we We know, we deployed our our troops so

to speak. We you know, we put our fae lenxes out there out on the battlefield prepared for this onslaught from COVID, and COVID actually did a flanking maneuver, swept around us and went after, you know, our our camp in the rear and massacred people who are undefended, massacred are our sick, our wounded, so to speak. In this battle analogy, we were not focused on the threat where it really was. And they can say all they want now about how oh you know it's this person or

that person or this facility or that facility. No, you want all the power to tell us. You got to stay in your home. You want the power to tell us what we can and can't do day in and day out. I have to wear a mask. I can't go to the store, I can't go live my life, flatten the curve, all this stuff. You want that authority. You also, Governor Cuomo, had the authority to do better when it came to our seniors and to protect them, and you failed. You failed this guy, this guy, it

should look it should cost him. I don't know if he's planning on running for reelection or not, but it should cost him reelection. I don't know if it will. Unfortunately New York politics, you never know what's really going on here. But we know the truth. There's no blame shifting that's going to work here. Cuomo, thanks for listening to the bus seton show podcasts. Remember to subscribe on Apple podcasts, the iHeart Radio app, or wherever you get

your podcasts. What is the lockdown that we've suffered through, the lockdown that has brought about now forty million job losses. What if it didn't even save lives? Now? I understand that this is very a controversial thing to even ask, but we have to, especially because I am not the least bit convinced that we will not see a request for a second round of lockdowns come this winter time or to coincide with the flu season. Well, what do we have in terms of data to answer this very

controversial question. We got Jordan shack Tell back in the house. He's an investigative journalist, national security analyst. He's written for the Examiner, for The Daily Wire, USA Today, a whole bunch of places. Jordan is back with us. Jordan, thanks so much, man, Yeah, thanks for having me. So I want to pose this question to you just before we get to that. They said we needed a million ventilators

and we needed nothing even close to that. They said we were going to overwhelm the hospitals, nothing even close to that. You know, half a million to two point five million dead, not even close. I mean, we just so many of the things we were told by the experts were wrong. But the one thing that they seem certain of certain is that the lockdowns would save lives. What do you say to that and what can you

tell us about it? I would say that the fundamental premise behind lockdowns was that we were initially it was to slow out the spread of the virus, acknowledging that every a lot of people are going to get infected

anyway to retain that critical hospital capacity. What we learned is that the lockdown policy has really exacerbated the problem, particularly when it came to the nursing homes, and particularly when it came to the Democrat governor is deciding that this thing is going to get so bad that we are going to send sick people back into nursing homes.

And now what we and what should have been obvious to our our all knowing public health experts, was that senior citizens are particularly vulnerable to respiratory viruses, and unfortunately, it has had devastating consequences for the long term care center communities. You saw this happen in New York City, in New Jersey, in Pennsylvania, and every state where they issued these orders. The nursing homes were absolutely devastated when

it comes to lockdown. In particular, the CDC issued a report this week basically acknowledging that the infection fatality ratio is at least fourteen fifteen times lower than the initial WHO World Health Organization prediction of three point four percent, and by acknowledging that they also acknowledge that forty fifty sixty million Americans have already been affected by the coronavirus, which means that the lockdowns did not work in containment.

And this wasn't even it wasn't acknowledged first in the run up to this that lockdowns were or containment. It was supposed to be to slow down the spread. But if you saw from Cauchi, from Bert's, from Governor Cuomo, Governor Murphy, New Jersey, they went on to claim when they moved the goalpost that lockdowns were stopping the spread,

and that was never true. And the CDC has basically acknowledged that do we have any way of looking at the data about nationwide particularly hospitalizations because that coincides with severe infection asymptomatic infection for example. I mean, who you know that that's a much less serious issue, and it's also one you're never going to be able to properly test and trace, as they say, But it seems like we had a surge in infections and then a drop off.

Every other country all over the world, whether they went with the most severe lockdown or almost no lockdown at all, has also had a similar degree of escalation, not the same numbers, but there was a there was a bump up and a bump down, you know, I mean, there's some bumps are more severe than others. But everyone seems to have gone through this period. What do the numbers

tell us about the cyclical nature of this virus? If anything, one hundred percent that within certain statistical parameters in countries with similar climates, you saw the same rise, the same drop, no matter what policy was tried. The only distinction here is that countries that did very hard lockdowns, like the countries in the Middle East where you weren't even allowed to go outside, go to the supermarket, those countries have different data because those lockdowns were so strict, so rigid.

You know, it wasn't like New York City where Cuomo

left the subways open. But in terms of like these loose lockdowns that you sought throughout Western Europe in the United States, as opposed to the Swedish model or the Belarus model, there is absolutely no difference, which means that lockdowns did nothing to stop the spread, and there's a lot of evidence it possibly on the other side of things, that it could have exacerbated the spread because we know, you know how the virus spreads in these close combinian spaces,

and that we know that community transmission isn't that big an issue and the virus doesn't really spread that way. So, if anything, there's a lot of evidence pointing to the fact that lockdowns have done severe damage, not just inside you know, this COVID ecademic, but outside of it, with all the mental health, economic repercussions. But there's still nothing that any legitimate scientists can point to that said, oh yeah,

lockdowns have done some positive things. There's just nothing out there, and it's it's probably the biggest domestic policy blunder in American history, and unfortunately, in you know, it's not just America that this is every other country in the world

that made the same mistake. Now, speaking of Jordan, shack Tell, investigative journalists and part of what Alex Barrenson calls Team Reality, people willing to look at the numbers and comic conclusions about this COVID nineteen thing that aren't just the official

from on high consensus position. How did we go? Jordan from doctor Fauci in March, I'm sure you've heard this audio to making the rounds a last to twenty four hours and March saying you know, wear a mask, and you know, but it really just if it makes you feel better. I mean, you don't have to wear a mask. That was in March of this year about COVID nineteen. Now, if you don't wear a mask, you're basically a monster who wants old people to die, including wearing a mask

out in the open by yourself. I mean, I see people sitting with a hundred yards of social distance on all sides in Central Park who have a mask on. How do we go from one to the other. It is public health officials refusing to acknowledge the mistakes they've made in the past and are basically doubling down on the hysteria and beermongering propaganda entirely not based in data.

A lot of people point to East Asia and say, hey, you know, there's not a lot of deaths in East Asia, but you have to remember that there are three primary underlying conditions from people that are under outside the nursing homes who die of this virus at three primary underlying conditions. First and foremost, it's obesity, and we know that in East Asia we are five, six, seven times worse in

terms of obesity than East Asia. The second underlying condition is diabetes, which of course can be caused by obesity. The third most common underlying condition is asthma, which can also be related to obesity. And for some reason, these public health officials are saying, oh, just wear a mask

and not saying stop going to McDonald's. And I think stop going to McDonald's is a much more effective public health advice than for people to think that by wearing a cloth bandana around their face they're going to successfully shield themselves from a virus that you can only see under an electron microscope with ten million times magnification. The whole thing is just so, it's just all based in pseudoscience. It's so bizarre, and it's basically a cult that has

been created. The ask thing is to me, it's just a total mythology. It's so absurd, there's no evidence behind it. And here we are, you know, here I am in the DC Beltway where in Virginia the governor is now mandating mask wearing if you're in a group, if you're indoors.

It's just it's so absurd and it's hypocritical because as you see, you know a lot of these public health officials and governors aren't wearing maths themselves when they're caught out in public Jordan, before I let you go, how are people getting you know, what is the the working theory if you will. For while we were in lockdown and there's all this masking going on for weeks and weeks, there were still lots and lots and lots of new infections.

So if the measures were supposed to be if the measures were supposed to be helpful, how are people then still getting getting infected? Do we have any data? Do we have any way of knowing that? So that's the thing is that people are just assuming that people are like cheating the lockdowns, cheating the six feet of space and social distancing. I think doctor Pauci has alluded to this a lot. We said, oh, you've got to do

a better job social distancing. There's just that kind of goes to show that when you have the CDC issuing a report saying, oh, hey, by the way, fifty million people got infected and most of it occurred to the lockdowns. So what does that say about lockdowns? It says that the lockdowns didn't didn't work at all, and containing the virus, and we should never have told the American people that the idea of the lockdowns was to contain the virus,

because that was really the big lie. A few weeks into this epidemic, Jordan, thanks so much for joining us, and thanks for being willing to ask questions that people like you and me have been shouted down for for months now. We appreciate it. Thanks for bringing all your research here. Yeah, thanks for having me. You're in the

freedom hud. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. You know, I really want to hear from when it comes to the very complicated debates right now around signs and how to protect us from a pandemic, how to get the economy restarted? Joe Biden. I just want Joe Biden waiting in yelling about things. You know. Hey, man, I'm I'm not too old for this game. I'm I got cool things to say. I'm a I'm a I'm a hip cat man. I'm Joe Biden. Uh yeah, he's got another

great one here for you. Producer, Mark, would you play whatever it is that he's talking about here? If they're wearing a mask projects strength or weakness, leadership when it presents and projects his leadership. Presidents are supposed to lead, not engage in folly and be falsely masculine. Reminds me of the guys that I grew up with playing ball. They'd walk around with a ball in their hand, but

they didn't like to hit very much. Yeah, they walk around with the ball in their hands, but they don't like to They don't like to hit very much. You know, you got you got three roosters on top of a bar, and all of a sudden, Hip Potamus waddles by and he's like, hey man, and they're like, what does anyone know what Joe Biden is talking about? Carried a ball, but they don't like to hit. What usually people that like, if you see me walking around with a football, I

want to throw a football? What is he? Producer? Mark? Am I missing something? Does this make sense? No? It makes absolutely no sense. You're right, hey man, I'm walking around. I got a ball and I got you know, two balls on the hand is worth the bird in the bush seven little chipmunks sitting on a branch, sheeting a lot of acorns stepping into my office Joe Biden style. This is just nuts. They want to make this guy pres in the United States. He's the guy. Oh boy,

that's right. If only we would listen to Joe Biden, everything would have been so much better. Oh man, I just so thoroughly, thoroughly disagree with them, But we're gonna have to beat them in the election, folks. We're gonna have to beat them in the election. And we also have to try to get the truth out. I'm not I'm not one who believes that we're going to get really close to accountability for the Russia collusion, delusion and Russia Gate and all this stuff. I don't think that

we're likely to see anybody who was involved punished. I don't. I just don't think that's going to happen. I hope ever wrong. Some people have been fired from the FBI, I've ever been some people punished. But I mean, if you're talking about handcuffs on and the NYPD is called the bracelets, put the bracelets on them, but handcuffs on and frog marched out of the office or out of the home. MM, I don't. I don't think you're going

to see that happening. And I think the best we can hope for is to get as much of the truth out as possible so that people can at least who care about this, And I don't even know how many there will be who view this as an issue that will determine their voting one or the other. But for the people who care about this, they'll have the facts present and they'll be able to well know what really happened with Russia collusion stuff. Here is Eric. Eric Swalwell is a liar who is perhaps most famous for

his on air flatulence. That's right, if you recall that was a thing that happened, and it was it pretty much it pretty much blew up the internet. You could say it had it had its day there. But the the Eric Swalwell line here has been to go on MSNBC and other for CNN, other friendly left wing anti Trump media outlets and just always act like, oh, from what I'm seeing behind closed doors, I know that there's really bad stuff about this Russia collusion and just you wait,

just you wait. Now he's part of the team that's opposed to additional information getting out there transparency on Russia collusion. Gait is a bad thing for the limbs. That has That's been a consistent theme all along. Here is a swallow Well talking about all this play fourteen. He's trying to set up the argument he's going to make in

November that the election was ragged. We saw him do this in November twenty sixteen, when he was saying it was going to be rigged, and it was being rigged in his favor, which is why I think the Obama administration was slow to response. He'd gotten in their head and they did not respond to what Russia was doing

quickly enough. But he's trying to see that argument. So if he does lose, he can go to the courts, he can stoke anxiety and uncertainty around the result, and really, for the first time in American history, hang an asterisk around the peaceful transfer power. But Americans want to vote from home seventy one. Americans want to do what service members have done since the Civil War, as you point

out what service members do right now in Afghanistan. If it's safe enough to do in Afghanistan, it should be safe enough in communities that do not yet have COVID under control. You know there's a problem here because the Democrats are so desperate to set up this enormous change into our national election. You know there's a there's a

theme here, my friends, there's a pattern. First of all, they don't want transparency on Russia collusion, as I said, and note that they went from why are you unmasking people? Don't do that, I'm sorry, unmasking the unmaskers. Why are you unmasking the unmaskers people like you know, Samantha Power and Clapper and Brannan and all these people that were Obama Intel you know, Intel chiefs or even in the case of Samantha Power appointee US Ambassador of the United Nations.

Somehow she needs to know, you know, about General Flynn conversations. Oh, sure she does. But as as we looked at this, they didn't want the list of unmaskers to be revealed. Now they want the whole transcript out. So they argued that the names were sensitive of the people who are asking for unmasking that Roy I'm asking for unmasking with Carol Baskin, Um, no, asking for the unmasked names. That's something that they said was sensitive, you shouldn't do it.

And now they're saying, well, oh, let's release the whole transcript. That's far more sensitive than just the names of the people asking for the unmasking. Right, the conversation itself between Flynn and Kislak, that's gonna be that's real private, sensitive stuff. Now they want that released, right because they're hoping they can make some political hay of it. But then on just the elect shin piece of this, they said Russia collusion happened because that was their way of negating Hillary's

loss in the twenty sixteen election. Now they're trying to cheat in this election by changing the way that it will be conducted. And if they if they don't get their way, you already see it. It's already baked into the cake. You know what. You know what's coming if we don't allow them this mail, this, you know, ballot from home situation, you know, and ballot harvesting, make all the changes they want. You know what they're going to say, voter suppression if Trump wins. Oh, and it was suppression

because of COVID nineteen. Oh and COVID nineteen has a dispread impact on communities of color. Therefore it was racist by making people vote the way we've voted for hundreds of years in this country. It is a racist, evil voter suppression scheme that's going to be the story if Trump wins. Thanks for listening to The Senson Show podcasts. Remember to subscribe on Apple podcasts, the iHeartRadio app, or

wherever you get your podcasts. So we had some more tough jobs numbers, but we knew the jobs numbers would be bad. They're going to keep being bad until the country reopens. It's beginning, but it's not happening nearly fast enough. You got forty million people have lost their jobs across the United States. I want to bring on a member of Congress who understands that we have to get the American people back to work. We now are joined by

Congressman Chuck Fleischman. He is from Tennessee, where he represents the third District including Chattanooga. Thank you so much, Congressman. We appreciate it. It's a great pleasure to be with you, sir. Thank you so. First off, how is we like to whenever we talk people in states across the country, different guests.

We like to just get a sense for the ground truth of how is Tennessee handling both the COVID crisis but also what's it looking like for small businesses and for folks that are trying to you know, deal with this economic crisis as well. Well. It's a great question, and I thank you for that. Tennessee is one of the great states that has no state income tax, has low regulations, probably the lowest tax state in the nation. In addition to that, before the COVID situation, it's a

right to work state. So it's been booming. We've attracted businesses from literally all over the world, so it's been a very fertile environment for businesses to come to Tennessee, thriving Tennessee and stay in Tennessee. There's no question that the COVID situation interrupted that. However, we're coming back strong. The state has been back open. We're doing much better. But there's a disruption effect in Tennessee and of course around the nation that needs to be dealt with. But

by and large, Tennessee is a debt free state. We balance our budget every year, so we will weather this storm from the health standpoint and from the financial standpoint

a lot better than other states. Are you going to need a large amount of additional federal assistance to get up and running again, or if, in fact the state that continues to open up, you think you'll be able to as you say whether the storm financially Tennessee received about three billion dollars from the less stimulus package, which is less than some states, more than others, and they

will use that money very well. I have weekly conversations with our governor, with our state legislators who work very hard to keep us in a strong place physically. Now, bear in mind, they have got to balance their budget. What that will mean is in some areas cuts, they have a robust rainy day fund, but they're going to have to be physically responsible, unlike some of the other states in the northeasts that are going to be and in the Midwest that are upside down because of their

mismanaged pension funds and bloated spending. So will we need more money perhaps? If we do, we want to target to make sure that we incentivize business, incentivize growth, and keep regulations at a minimum. So if there is additional stimulus money, we wanted to make sure that it stimulates the business community, creates job growth, and gets us back on the track for a recovery. We're speaking of Congressman

Chuck Fleischman of Tennessee's third congressional district. Congressman what would you like to see the President push for and the Congress act on to help get things moving in this country. And what additional measures, if any, do you support for the people that are so negatively impacted by this so far? Another great question. We have to be cognizant of the fact that we have spent trillions of dollars already. These are funds that are not just appropriated at a surplus.

These are funds that are largely borrowed against our national debt. When we started, we had a national debt of around twenty three trillion dollars. Depending on where the four packages that we have passed will leave us, we couldn't be closed to thirty trillion dollars in debt for young persons such as yourself and I have three younger sons. This is a debt that will be on the shoulders, a burden on the shoulders of all Americans, particularly are Americans

who are entering the workforce. So we need to be very careful if we come back with an additional package. We have to realize these are borrowed funds, so we want to use them wisely, no waste. And I will say this, I had a conversation with the head of the Secret Service just yesterday. We are combating waste fraud and abuse. Unfortunately, there are people out there right now we're trying to take advantage by scams and otherwise. So we have got to make sure that the dollars are

well spent, because these are borrowed dollars. And on top of that, we want to make sure that we combat waste fraud and abuse wherever we do have a federal program. Now there's a lot of back and forth between the Democrats and led by Nancy Pelosi and Republicans right now over how the election presidential election, but also of course congressional elections too coming up this fall. What are your feelings on mail in balloting for everybody and ballot harvesting

state by state. Very concerned about both of those things. I've said this a long time, and it's coming into fruition. We see it time after time. Republicans played by the rules, we follow the law, We try to do the right thing. Democrats play to win, and they'll do anything to win. Unfortunately, and I think this is the latest in a charade of attempts to basically try to gain an advantage in a very competitive environment. I think it's critically important that

President Trump is reelected. I think he's done an outstanding job as president. I think it's critically important that we hold the United States Senate, meeting the Republicans that is up for grabs, or some key races, and of course the House. We want a key house race in California. We held a keyhouse seed in Wisconsin. It's a very competitive environment. I'm in one of the co chairs of Take Back the House. For our dinner. That is going to be an uphill climb, and i think we've got

to work very hard. So as we look at some novel ideas like mail in ballot balloting or unfortunately what we're seeing the Democrats push for same day registration, that red flag has got to go up. We've got to be careful. I want everyone in America who is able to vote and legally able to vote, to be able to vote. However, I do not want any fraud. I do not want any tampering with ballots or ballot ballot harvesting. That is in danger to me. I think it's the

danger to our republic. So I'm very wary of any Democratic attempts to Spani's program. Congressman Chuck Fleischman of Tennessee, Sir, thanks for your time. Appreciate you joining us here on the show. It's a pleasure. Thank you for your show and all your efforts to every good day. You're in the Freedom Heart. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. I mean, in my opinion, the Trump is really behind

the April right now. He knows that unless they fixed this election, unless his party does vote a suppression and stops mailing voting and it's unsuccessful in his culture war, that he's going forward with that, they will lose and the Senate will go Democrat, the House will stay Democrat, and the President will be a Democrat. He knows that, so he is scared of that. He's playing a political game with people's lives, and these people do not realize that they are porns in his game. He only wants

to be re elected. He doesn't really care if you live or die. I mean, witness the fact that he went golfing on Memorial when the names are being printed in the New York Times about how many people have died. He couldn't care. Unless why does he fiddle with people's lives? Is what I want to know why is Joy Bayha crazy? Why does Joy Bayha make no sense? I just want to know there's some of the voters. First of all,

notice that she worked it in already. I'm telling you do what Democrats want for the election or else it's voter suppression. Oh it's voter suppression. No, that's not how this works. It's not voter suppression to have elections the way we've always done elections. And those who are saying, oh what about absentee ballots? Absentee ballots generally don't even get counted. This is a total change in the process, and they're supposed to be a reason for your request

for an absentee ballot. And for those who are military members serving overseas, of course we would make an exception for them. You know, no one's going to say, hey, you're deployed in South Korea, can you hop on a flight to go back home to Oklahoma to cast vote in the presidential election. That's not fair. That makes no sense. Think of the expense. It's not okay. But baihas like

Trump doesn't even care about people. Now, I know that you might be saying, Buck, this woman is so dumb, and her opinions are so contemptible that it's not worth spending any time on them. And unfortunately that's not really true.

They are so dumb and contemptible, but it's worth spending some time on them, because she is in artful in saying what is really The Democratic Party based belief on a whole bunch of things, and part of what motivates them, and what is at the center of so much of their thinking about Trump, is that they believe the president just does not care about his fellow human beings, that he is a true and I know that I say this, and it's one of those things that sounds so nuts

that to say it feels like you're almost embracing a little bit of the crazy yourself. But it's true. He is. They believe that he is a moral monster and does not care about human death or suffering at any level. And that is central to all of their because that justifies everything. Right, if you're living in Stalin's Soviet Union, is lying about the Soviet government, or lying to the Soviet government, or working with the press to not that

there really was a press. But you know, let's assume other than Pravda, you know, would that be Would it be a moral thing to use immoral means to take down a monster like Stalin? Yeah, of course, you know even if might I say immoral, even if you lied, even if you and you can take this all the way to things like just war theory and collateral damage, and you know, can it Can it be moral if in the course of fighting against a great evil there

are losses that occur, losses of our own people. Let's say, you know, there's this is the the ends justify the means put into action by the left, because the ends have to be the defeat of Trump because he's so evil. It's not that they disagree with them, it's not. And it's fascinating to see how the things that they promised would happen if Trump was in office, about how the economy would just be destroyed, and don't say, oh, but

what about COVID every the globe. One are the only reasons that we may be able to get out of this somewhat in one piece as a country, even with the horrifically bad decision making and leadership on this, and include really at all levels. But one of the reasons is that the entire global economy is so depressed, and there is when you look at currency and market share and things like this. There are some zero some aspects

to this. There are some components of this that are more you know, we're in a better position because the whole world is suffering at the same time. But that also is a huge data point forward. It isn't Trump's fault. It's not like Europe was fine and America got crushed by this. Everybody's been badly economically, at least very badly hit by this, and a vast majority of places have

suffered far too much death and loss from it. But if they start from this premise that oh rather not just the premise that Trump is evil, but also they don't care that their predictions about him for the up to this were wrong because nothing the results of his presidency don't matter because he's so evil. You see what you see how that this is this is a central belief.

So when they say things like he doesn't care about people dying, and you know, Joy Pea who hasn't read a book and probably twenty years, you know, she's out there spewing this stuff about him. But this is a this is really on the left. The consensus belief that President Trump isn't evil man. They really think that they believe that to be true, and that means that everything else is justified, including all of their their changes, um, their just demands about voting, and their demands about what

needs to happen going forward. By the way, I like what what Kelly Ann Conway said about this. Uh, she's she's Miss Conway is she's got some fighting her play clip fifteen. Why why are we presuming five months beforehand that people predominantly or exclusively are only going to want and be able to vote by mail? People are very proud to show up and go to the polls, they

really are. I mean, they wait in line for a Georgetown cupcake for an hour to get a cupcake, So I think they can probably wait in line to do something as consequential and critical and constitutionally significant as cast their ballot. And you know, the other thing that concerns me is very is very simple. The Democrats don't like their candidate. They didn't want Joe Biden to be their nominee. So they're looking for any which way they can to find other methods by which to make him more appealing

to the voters. I suppose they're looking for whatever they can do. Notice, as she says they don't like Biden as a candidate. That's certainly that. I mean, that's obvious the case. Oh by Biden, though when I asked about I thought this was really remarkable. When I asked about

his mental fitness, he goes on offense against Trump. He's like, hey, man, when when someone you know, when someone decides he's gonna he's gonna come into her come into your house and and start, you know, cooking a steak, and you say, hey man, what about what about playing a game of a bridge? And he's like what And I'm like, oh, and and then I'm take a nap, you know, whatever it is. He's whatever it is, it Biden saying, uh,

he goes on offense against Trump. Here play clip eighteen. Look, I mean, talk about a guy who's missing a step. He's missing someone. I don't want to get down into giving him nicknames, but this is a fellow whom he looks like he's having trouble controlled his own emotions. Um. What worries me is, uh, you know all this stuff about Biden's hiding, well, you know, the fact of the matter is it's working pretty well so far, doing the rules. He's behind in almost every every state. Um doesn't mean

it's going to be that way come November. But the idea that he seems to get more erratic the more he feels like he's behind the Kurt a little bit more and more like gurgling with Gergen over here at CN remember that guy, or for Nixon Regan or let's let's go to David Gergen with an analysis of the Trump versus Biden campaign. You know Anderson Cooper always yes, yeah, let's let's let's go to let's go to David Gergen.

He's he's worked the last fifteen presidents in a row or and Ford and Reagan or Whitehouse or a water Great. I can do that. I can do the hit for Gurgling Gurgan all. I don't know why they'll just pay me here, David could stay home. We know you can just give me a cut or reflection Niction and Ford and Reagan. Yep, that's what you got. It's what you get from Biden to basically just sounds a little different. Thanks for listening to The Bus Sesson Show podcasts. Remember

to subscribe on Apple podcasts. The iHeart radio app or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, everybody, it's time to expand your minds. It's Harsanyi time. David Harsani joins us now. He is a writer at National Review, going to run down some of the most important things going on across the country, perhaps even around the world. Mister Harsani, how you doing. I'm doing well, How are you doing? I'm

all right, man. So you've had this series of recent disclosures of what had been classified information from inside the intelligence community. It got out thanks to Rick Grannell, and now we know that the targeting of Flynn was was bad news. Uh it was. It was a set up the FBI. Wait all, what we've been saying for years was all true. How do you describe the Democrat media and Democrat party maneuvering It's it feels to me like nothing has changed. They're just still right in there. Yeah,

well there was collusion in Flynn line. Oh okay, yeah, I mean it's a cliche, but they're gaslighting people by pretending, you know, first, by deflecting away from the point. You know, they bring up that, uh you know that Flynn was a bad guy in other ways that he had dealings with Turkey and so on and Russia, which might well be true, it might not be true, but that's not

what he was prosecuted on. That's not what he pled to, and that's not you know, pertinent right now in this discussion over over why they set him up, Why the FBI didn't think he was lying to them but still went forward with with, you know, with going after him. Why Mueller still, you know, when after him, when when he knew that the conversation Splendid had with the Russian ambassador,

We're not undermining US policy in any way. So all of those questions need to be answered, and as we have been doing for the last few years, we just need to ignore the people on the experts on CNN and lawfare and MSNBC and just keep moving forward because there's a lot of evidence and a lot of facts

that that that support our position on this. And it feels like, I don't know if you saw that that Wall Street Journal editorial from the former CBS News president where he said, I gotta tell you it was a little bit of like a Captain obvious editorial. For me, it was like, yeah, dude, we already know this, But he's saying the media is never getting less partisan because the partisanship is actually where the that's where the sauce is. That's where you make your money and get your audience.

And and people that are pretending not to be partisan while being partisan just just do so because it it enhances h you know, the But the credibility in the eyes of their part is an audience that's watching. Oh well, this is just the facts and the truth that I'm getting from my left wing hack. But it feels like we've now at least recognized there's no accountability in any of this stuff for being no one. I have yet to see a single maya culpa editorial from anyone about

being wrong on Russia collusion. Uh, you know, the whole Flynn targeting, all of it. I haven't seen. Have you seen one? I haven't seen a single one. No. I mean I wrote a really long rant against the media a few weeks ago, and I made the point to say that I think that the incentive in the media today right is to be part of that. It's not to be a good reporter. You don't you don't make a lot of money. Your job isn't any safer. You don't build a giant audience on Twitter by being straight

down the line reporter. That that's not what you do. What you do is uh, you become a partisan and you go after Donald Trump, you know for the most part, and you're going to build a big audience. So to walk back three four years of your old hysterics over a Russia collusion that destroys your brand, you can't do that. You just have to move forward. And as you said,

there there there is no accountability. Like you know, when I worked in a newspaper fifteen years ago, let's say, a pretty big newspaper at the Denver Post, and I had written something accusing someone of something horrible and being a traitor or sedition. They want a lot of facts to back that up. And if I had been wrong and had gone out on a limb, there would be I would have to answer for that right and for

much smaller things than that. Obviously, I was, you know, covering local news for the most part in the beginning when I was reporting. But even then, even in those stories there was accountability you get in trouble. There's none of that today. You can just move forward. You could be Max Boot or whoever and say whatever you want, and even as a columnist, and never have to answer for pret mistakes which are abundant. Right So, and I'm going to say one part of this that feels like

it has been lost, and maybe you can help. You write very excellent columns at National Review. And this is a theme I'd like to be just more broadly understood as the public grapples with what happened here, at least the people that are willing to look at it honestly.

Is the way that all of our you know, they talk so much about our institutions, right that was a huge talking point for the first few years, the Trump, oh Trump is undermining our sacred institutions of democracy, like, well, whatever that means, it wasn't even really clear always what that was supposed to be. By criticizing some people in

the press, he's attacking the First Amendment. I mean, the stuff they said is insane, But the inability to understand what it means when good faith is not an expectation for those in power within the bureaucracy, particularly in law enforcement. What they've really fallen back on in the Russia collusion thing is, well, these FBI guys. You know, they believe that Flynn was a Russian agent, so everything else they

did is more or less just fied. Well, you know, when I was in the CIA, or you know, let's say that I was working with someone in the FBI and I fed him, I said, you know, I think this person might be handing who has classified information, might be handing over classified stuff. I've just got a gut feeling about it. If the FBI then rated that person's house through tear gas in pulled them out of the

shower naked with MP five's drawn on them. Normal human beings would have a problem with that, But in the Russia collusion situation, we're told that that's okay, and let's concede to them that everything they say about how to start it is true, right the gut feeling, you know, they thought Flynn was a bad guy. They believed a lot of what was in the dossier, etc. After you see what happened, and after you see the abuse of

power that Trump could use. Right now, if you felt like, according to their own standards, you would walk it back and at least they listen. I think Trump's a bad guy. I think he's in bed with Russian in many ways. I don't like I think Flynn's a bad guy, but we have a process. Process is more important, you know, and justice is more important than having a police force, and you know, and an FBI in a justice department we can trust are more important than just going after

Trump all the time. But they never they can never concede a set. It's like the whole thing with Trump. People think I'm you know, because I defend him on this. I'm pro Trump, right, I don't really care that much about Trump. I can hear more about the abuses that are going on. If it would trust me, they would have done this to George Bush, Mitt Romney, anyone that you know, all of those guys in my opinion. But Trump is the only president new sort of fight spect

the way he does. But I'm not sure that's always a good idea, But quite often I think it's fine. And that's what makes them even matter and more sort of you know, stuck in a position that they won't even concede the most obvious things like that that Flynn was railroaded, you know, I mean it seems obvious to say, okay, Flynn was railroaded. This is over anyway, right, the Russian collusion thing's over. It's fine to concede things now, isn't. It seems to me it would be, but they don't.

Speaking to David Harsani, David, also want to ask you about the big fight right now over mail mail in ballots for the whole election and what's going on with all these different states and you know, Okay, also, I don't know if you if you can just tell us a little bit about what Pelosi's trying here. But what do you see going on? And and and how obvious is it to you that this stinks to high heaven. That's quite that's begging the question, is it not? But yeah,

I actually do think it's stinks. I mean it stinks in the sense that they're using an emergency to try to push through initiatives that they that they have been, you know, a hobby horse for them for for years and years and years, So they're using this emergency to push that through. There they are in a sense. What I don't like is not just the paper ballots, but that we're nationalizing, we're trying to nationalize the election process. I don't I think that those are problematic um as

far as paper ballots themselves. I don't like them because I think it shouldn't be easier to vote. I think it should be harder to vote. I've not never you know, for all of arkins, I've never hidden that. So I think the heart, you know, I think I voting is actually sacred, and that actually as important as they say that,

we should have to put a little effort into it. Yeah, I feel like if the state can mandate that you might have to show up and spend a couple weeks of your life, you know, determining whether or not someone who got called with you know, a pound of coke somewhere should go to prison. You know. I feel like if you're able to do that as part of your civic duty, you should be able to show up and

vote in person. That doesn't seem to me like it's asking too much, especially if it's every four years, right, And I think that part of this effort to make it so easy to vote, that essentially we come to your house, you do what you want, to take the vote from you and move on, is to have to compel people or entice people who don't care to vote, who don't know what's going on to vote. I think you want ignorant voters. I think that's the key, and

I have long had a problem with that. In fact, I still believe, despite you know, by the history of this, because I think we're in a different world now than we used to be, that there should be some kind of test for voting. You know, just wow, David Harsani with a TESTA this is this is spicy stuff. People get so upset whenever you say a basic civic test for voting. For example, oh my gosh, we're not even

allowed to have English as as the national language. I understand this is never going to happen, but I think that having some listen. I don't think it would even change any of the results. But I think having some basic understanding of American civics, the kind of understanding that a new citizen has right the antic contests to take contests to become a citizen, my parents to contest to become a citizen, is something that we should easily be

able to pass. You can take in a million times if you need to, but you should need to know the very basic specific life to vote. Obviously, there's an ugly history there because people, you know, try to take the way the right of African Americans to vote in the South and all of that. I get it. It's a different world. I think that we need a more educated electorate. But this is just, of course a thought experiment. Is that. I mean, when I'm when I vote in

New York City, I'm always amazed. You look at the ballot and I know, I'm a reasonably you know, I have a good general knowledge of a lot of things that are you know, global affairs related. I can't even tell you. There are so many languages that the ballots are printed, and I can't even tell you what all the languages are. I mean, I think they get they get into like Sanskrit and you know, tie and I mean,

I can't tell all these things apart. I've never been one of these like people gets mad that they're you know, there's a you know, Press two for Spanish kind of press one for Spanish actually these days. But you know, I think that the English language is it's one of the glues that holds together society and helps newcomers, you know, become become Americans. So I'm obviously I do worry when you have people voting. We don't even maybe have any

clue what's going on? You know, David Harsani, David, what's your next piece? Is going to be on Trump's regular executive order on tech company, which I absolutely hate. Oh, give us a quick goal before I was going to let you go back to your life, but give us a quick preview here. What's what's your take on it? This is my life, man, m I h you know, I mean, this is an Obama ass kind of runaround of legislature which didn't which didn't intend this law to be u you know, they are to make sure that

we have a fairness doctrine. It was there for other reasons to stop people from being sued all the time on the internet and to help websites deal with indecency indecency on their site. So I think that that's not the will or the intent of the legislature. And more than that, you know, he's setting up some kind of like White House task force where people are going to be able to report on other people who are censoring them. I mean, and now we're gonna have the White House

keeping lists of censorship. It's of private you know, on private sites. It's just I think it's an illiberal idea. But more than that, I just don't you know he got I'm against the fact check that Twitter did. I think it was stupid and arbitrary. We're not so arbitrary, maybe just targeting the president, But that doesn't mean I think that, you know, now, we should be able to tear apart. It's relatively neutral. But don't get me wrong. I think that the criticisms of Twitter and Facebook and

YouTube are merited. But I think that the solution that you're coming up with is only going to empower government. And when you have an Attorney General Kamala Harris implementing those rules, you're not gonna like it very much. All right, David Harslani and Natural View everyone, David, thanks so much, Man, appreciate it. Hi, thank you. You're in the Freedom Hunt.

This is the Buck Sex and Show podcast. Leadership Today also apparently consistent spreading vile conspiracy theories on Twitter about the death of a former staffer for then Congressman Shoe Scarborough and doing it over and over again, traumatizing her family and her husband so deeply that he wrote to Twitter begging the company to take down the prison tweets because they're not true about his wife. What a little man.

He's just a little man. He's a leader of the free world, and he is a little little man, a self proclaimed wartime leader, a leader in the midst he says, of a transition to greatness for the country, spreading falsehoods about a dead woman despite the pain and the police of her husband and the family. He doesn't even have the guts to say he doesn't care about what they think. No, no, he doesn't have the guts to say, you know what, I don't care what they think because this serves my

political purposes. That's why he's doing it. He doesn't have the guts to say that because he is just a little man. Despite his girth and size, he's a little man inside. And he knows that. Okay, First of all,

I mean, George Stephanopolis is a little man. If we're really, if we're gonna go there, I mean we're gonna talk about And second of all, isn't Anderson Cooper is supposed to be at He's supposed to be an objective journal calling the president repeatedly you know, a derogatory name, or you know, to to take a shot at him in this way. And but you know, we're supposed to say, or night after night tune in to watch Anderson ridolf of a prompter and ask obvious questions of basically nothing

but Democrats and all pushing the same point of view. Um, yeah, yeah, that's what. That seems objective. That seems fair minded to me. I also, though, I have a more serious point to make here, and and I like I tell you this, I I think the president likes I think he likes to sometimes, uh Rush, I know Rush said this yesterday. The president likes to he likes to poke it at

his enemy sometimes. And you know, I'll leave it to you as to whether or not you you always agree with how he does it, all right, But onto the CNN component of this for a moment. Here, if Anderson Cooper is expressing a lot of a lot of you know, emotional solidarity with the family of this woman who died a long time ago. And I just would note, has Anderson Cooper ever expressed any solemnity on air for the people who have been destroyed, their lives ruined recently by CNN.

I just you know, here he is, he's saying a more a moral stand. You know, Trump is putting the family through so much pain and look that does it seems like it's a it's a very tragic situation for the family, and it would be nice if everybody would would have respect for that. But does CNN ever talk about, oh, what has been done to in general? Flann is a perfect example of it. You think that his career and reputation being ruined, threatening to throw his son into prison

that got into anything wrong? Did Does CNN ever get bothered by that? Do they? Do? They worry about the people that they have doxed and and gotten either fired from their jobs or gotten you know, just everyday, everyday civilians, normal people who get death threats because CNN wants to make a point about someone. You know, remember the guy who did a meme I didn't remember what the meme was now, but it was a meme that involved Trump,

I think, beating up a CNN logo or something. And then they found out who he was and then they went after him. What I'm trying to tell you is that CNN is really no more ethical or decent than Media Matters for America, which is a trash heap where any person of integrity and character would be ashamed to work. Ashamed CNN is getting very close into at least for

the on air people into that category. Like I understand for producers, you know, you got to get the jobs where you can at CNN pays well and everything else. But for some of these on air talents, when when do they feel like CNN is just doing damage, is actually harming people. They did a lot of damage with Russia collusion, happy to see people sent to prison for no real reason, happy to see reputations ruined, to smear people in the public, No, no remorse over this whatsoever.

Tapper or getting this whole thing started, Cooper fanning the flames the whole time, don Lemon going on TV to just be an idiot, I mean, you know what exactly, And then you know, Aaron, does anyone watch Aaron Burnett show? Oh, you know CNN. I'm sure they've got you know, built in audience and all the airports, so I'm sure some

people are watching it. What's amazing to me is that someone laying in Aaron Burnett's category at even at CNN, has any negotiating power whatsoever with management, because not like no one, you're a place Aaron Burnett with fifteen other people at CNN and no one is going to notice or care Cooper as a following. There are some others there that have their own following, but some of those anchors this is more of a business commentary. It's remarkable to me. Oh wait, but I mentioned Don Lemmon. We

also have have Don Lemon here play nineteen. Okay. So the president was speaking at an event on protecting the help of seniors, and you know what, if he really cared about seniors, he would encourage people to wear masks to say the lives of those seniors who make up a large portion of the coronavirus deaths. But this president would rather mock a reporter. He would rather mock Joe Biden for doing what doing what every American has been doing.

Most Americans have been doing the right thing, and that is wearing a mask, mocking him for being a real man unlike the president and doing what he should be doing. These are their news anchors, and they're crashing the President of the United States night after night in personal terms. Oh my gosh. All right, you know, and they still they cling to the fiction nonetheless that they are an

objective news network. And it's just it just couldn't be any more preposterous and in the background, as all these bad things are happen opening in this country, you got crazy Nancy. Who's how many wine coolers have I had today? You know, Nancy's out there still, I'm master legislator. Yeah, yeah, whatever, Nancy. She's gonna push this to the max, and the media is going to be there pushing her every step of the way. Play clip nine. We have to open the economy.

We have to do so in a way that gives more opportunity for access to care, to credit, to opportunity in our country, because, as mister Kleberent said, this is an opportunity every crisis is. It is a crisis for sure, a crisis largely at this point of lockdowners and mostly on the left, but not entirely lockdowners making and just wait and see what they have in store for us

in the months ahead. We have had a reordering of political priorities that has occurred in real time because of the COVID nineteen crisis that we are just beginning to really see where all of this is going. That's why I don't think anyone can anticipate even what the primary what the primary issues that will move that small sliver of voters come the fall. No one really even knows what it will be at this point, and you got with Pelosi circling in the background, waiting to exploit the

situation to the maximum. Just you wait and see. These people are shameless, shameless, I tell you. Thanks for listening to The Bus Sesson Show podcasts. Remember to subscribe on Apple podcast, the iHeartRadio app, or wherever you get your podcasts like Soft Butter on Warm Toast. Time to spread some freedom coast to coast. It's time for roll call. Indeed, it is time for the roll call, the call of the role. Thank you so much for us sticking through

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carrier pigeon that with the little or messenger pigeon. I guess it is with the little thing attached to the foot, right, Yeah, it can be like a Hogwarts owl. They'll just find me, Yeah, exactly. Just just tell your carrier pigeon, put your little scroll on its tiny little bird foot and send it out there and say find producer Mark. He loves it when the pigeon lands on his window sill and leaves him a couple of presents, if you know what I mean.

That's his favorite. Yes, And if you give the pigeon fudge for me too, that'd be great. Also. There we go. But what is the one food you have not been able to get in quarantine that you are as soon as like all the options are on the table again, you're just gonna go after with a vengeance. It was sushi for a while because all the Asian restaurants pretty much closed because people were not going to them because they thought they had coronavirus, which was obviously wrong. But

that's just what happened, I guess now. I mean, maybe it's just because I haven't found a good Chinese place in my new area, but I think Chinese food is the one thing I haven't had in a while. I have not you know what you're I haven't had Chinese food in the entire there's there are a couple of Vietnamese restaurants that have stayed open and I've been ordering from them all the time. And let me tell you,

if you eat enough Foo, your belly will grow. But the yeah, having a Chinese food a while, so that will be kind of exciting. And there is gluten free Chinese in New York. For those of you who are like, how can you do that? It turns out you can. All right, let's get to it. Steve love your show on Freedom ninety three seven in the Denver area. Yes, we love our Denver audience. Man, you guys have made us the number one time show a time. Can I

speak English? Maybe you're not gonna listen anymore if I don't number one show in our time slot in Denver. So thank you so much for that, and keep keep listening, keep keep telling people about us. The curve has been flattened, Steve writes. Now it is a time to flatten the fear. People may be doing more harm than good to themselves by wearing those silly masks outdoors. Besides, they look like stupid sheeple and that offends me. Yes, liberals. Mass stupidity

offends me. Give to Lula a pat on the head for me, and of course shield tie well, Steve, thank you so much for writing in Man, and yes, I will give to Lula. Wants more than a pad on the head. She usually wants me to like kiss the ring on her little paw so that I have shown Royal Highness that I've paid all necessary homage to her. So there you go. But yeah, the masks outdoors, it makes no sense, but people are doing it all over

the place. It's become a symbol as doctor Fouci. Now, I know some of you are going to figure out that my doctor Fauci sounds a little like my joy Bayhaw Fouci and Bayhall. Think about that as a show. That would be quite a show. We'll have to see if I can make that one happen. Andrea, Hey, Buck Black and Decker Craftsman is closing their plant in China and moving to Texas. Maybe Buck and producer Mark should follow their lead. Andrew, I'm just telling your producer Marks already,

he's already cast his vote for Florida. If the Freedom Hunt goes mobile, it's gonna be real tough to get this guy to go anywhere other than Florida. That that that I can tell you, and I can I really how much can I really disagree with that? You got great food? Great Whether it's not a communist dystopia, there's some upside to it close to the beach beaches, beautiful beach? Did have I mentionedly leave that Florida has no state income tax? Yes, and no state income tax. I'm into it.

TJ writes in Buck. I'm not a fan of the Trump four D chess theories, and I know that Trump often shoots himself in the foot via Twitter, most recent example being Trump's insistence to go after Scarborough on these murder conspiracies. With that being said, is it possible that Trump's trying to get himself kicked off Twitter? My theory being that the most effective way to hit Twitter hard would be for them to disown him and not him leaving them. Perhaps he's trying to find a way to

effectively switch over to a new platform like Parlor. I know this is fairly out there as a grand conspiracy, and it's much more like that Trump just likes to shoot himself in the foot, but just trying to think outside of the box, you know, TJ. I don't think that that's what's going on here. I think the president likes to stick his thumb in the eye of his ideological opponents and doesn't like to play by the rules of decorum they set, even when sometimes those rules of

decorum would be fair, you know, or would be understandable. Trump, you know, he doesn't hold back and he throws punches, and that's the way it's going to be. As for Parlor or these other apps. I just think that it's such a look at Facebook and the durability of Facebook.

I think that once a social media platform has achieved that true dominance, it's it's a winner take all position, and second and third platforms are really irrelevant because you need that critical mass of users and you need all of that to you know. It's just there's Look, how many of you use a search engine other than Google? Honestly, think about that for a second. I mean, there could be a hundred search engines out there, but you really just use Google. Don't you rusta mark? Do you ever

use a non Google search engine? No? And anybody who uses bing or something, I just look at them like why, I don't even really know how to. I mean Yahoo. All I need to know about Yahoo is that they paid you know, they had Mercer Mayer as a CEO and she basically destroyed the company. Yay, good job. So yeah, I can't get excited about about any other social media

platforms these days. And you know, we've tried, and we've even had some that we've partnered with on the show, but it's just so difficult to get to that critical mass of users. It's very high hurdle. Gina. Hi again, Bucks, So the president's announcement today he wanted to regulate platforms like WHOA. The only thing that should be done is to create them all as publishers and retract all the

protections afforded to them as neutral social networks. Then they can see the litany of lawsuits that will come as they face libel for publishing false info. Being a federalist, I do not believe a president is able to slap back a private business while applying their rules as they are published for all to agree to is something we would champion, or should champion. There seems to be a better and constitutional way to make them see the light

shields high, Gina, I think you're correct. I mean, this is what I've been saying too. We have to make sure that these social media platforms are living by the same rules that other media platforms do and the same standards that they do. And if they're going to be engaged in publisher activity, as in the active editing of things just based on what they like and don't like, well then don't they have to be responsible the same way that a newspaper would for what they're printing. And

that's the center. That's the center, that's the heart of this debate right now. And I don't think that the I don't think of the executive order. We'll have to see what the President has to say about this executive order and with the specifics of it. Steve Buck, I enjoy your show, but you're championing of Aunt Becky is tiresome. She's getting far less of a punishment than she deserves. Remember, her conniving dishonesty likely deprive two deserving young women of

the positions her daughters were awarded. Elites simply don't deserve special treatment as a result of their well, whoa whole lot of second, Steve, First of all, thank you right didn't give me heat when I deserve it. I am biased in favor of Aunt Becky, not because she's an elite, but because I had a huge crush on her when I was a kid and she was on Full House and she was like the hottest adult lady I'd ever seen. Okay, So it has nothing to do with oh, she's fancy

and the elites. It's because when I was fifteen, I was like, man, Damn Becky's so pretty. Hun, just Damn Becky's pretty. That's it. That's it, you know. So that's all that's all I got for you. I don't know what else to tell you that I'm I'm not saying it makes me right, you're better, but I am also the hold on a second months in prison, months in

prison for this. Why can't you know the school should just you know, take the next two people they had on the waiting list, kicked out, the kick out her two girls, and you know, pay a big fine or something. But I mean, I think Priston's a little Her husband, Massimo is going to prison for like six months. So anyway, I mean, I'm sorry you think it's tiresome, but I just want to be clear. It's not because they're like fancy I don't give a crap. I love fancy people

who are bad going to prison. It's great. It's because when I was young, she was very pretty and I liked her. James Buck, when you get the press on the podcast, you should let him do roll call. That would be so cool. She'll tie from w G Y Well, my friend, if that happens, that would be that would be really fun idea that could you imagine that the president doing roll call? Oh my gosh, it'd be great. But here I am in the freedom hud, the best, the most free freedom hud of any freedom hood in

the world. It's like the best freedom hud. Uh. Yeah. Pablo all right saying, hey, Buck, I remember you did a good podcast which you named MSNBC can't math good. That's a we do well when there is opportunity the news cycle. We do have some pretty great titles. I gotta tell you. There was a CBS reporter report story reporting that since my state is opened, we have experienced a one hundred and eleven percent increase in wuhan flu cases.

Before we opened, there were thirty five cases, and since open, we have an increase to thirty nine active cases. I went ahead and did the math myself and came up with a frac below nine percent. I did discover that thirty nine is about one hundred and eleven percent of thirty five. Apparently leftist journalist didn't have to take basic math shields. High buck, ps, keep fighting the good fight. I think your show is the best on the air. Well, thank you so much, Thank you so much. I really

do appreciate that. It's very kind of you. Pablo means a lot, and yeah, no, it's true. Look, journalists, journalists can't math good. And I'm look, I'm not exactly a math wizard myself, so I try to. But I own my mistakes. I own them, Bart hi Buck not sure how to email you, Well, apparently you are sure how to email me, Bart, But I wanted to say I

listen to your show daily and really enjoy it. That being said, I have to let you know your Doctor fauci impersonation cracks me up, always gives me a good laugh on the days I need it. I work at a box factory in Coleman. Also, I've been essential through this entire fiasco in our country going through right now. I appreciate your show and your opinions you share daily keep up the good work, and a person at doctor Fauchie more. It's hilarious. Well, but but we need to

know are you are you doing the mitigation? You know, are you mitigating in your sleep? Are you making sure you're washing hands in the shower. You can't just get in the shower, turn it on, do a little scrub, you know, on pits, back, your bum area. You gotta make sure you actually use the soap, and you know, you sing happy birthday to yourself and you wash your hands in the shower, foot and full mitigation effort. So it's a public service announcement to you from doctor Fauci.

I just want to make sure it's helpful. Does doctor Facer Does doctor Foucher use a loofah? You know I had to have a I'd have a you know, an ex girlfriend a long time ago explain it. I was like, what is that thing in the shower? It was? You know, I recently started using a Lufa change changing. Really it's great. I feel so much more clean. Hey, producer Mark, his man card is stamped so many times over he's pro Lufa. He's pro Lufa. It's like a watchcloth but better. Mhmm.

You're in This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. All right. Roll call continues on here, Angela writes, in oh, but before I get to this, we got a fun team Buck announcement for you on it. But I can't brucer Mark said he would code read me if I but we do have something coming. I can say that, right, Producer Mark. I mean, you already did what. I didn't

say it. I know I didn't say the thing. I just love when we have pre segment conversations like just don't say anything, just do a normal show, and then you're like you just you can't help yourself sometimes. But I just said the thing about that. I didn't say what the thing is, and now we're just gonna leave him waiting. That's right. Well, the thing is that he's going to record Siege of Malta by the end of this year. He loves to throw Malta in my face,

which is fair because I haven't done it yet. Angela, Hey, Bucks, So the best thing I've seen on Facebook is requiring a mask? Now is Loh's Like, Okay, our VA governor is an idiot. We have to work outside. At least I don't have to wear a mask. Then I am also high risk, but I refuse to live my life one day in fear. I have autoimmune and celiac. I'm

sorry to hear that. Angela's you know I have ciliac too, maybe more going through testing now, but I will not wear a mask except for work where they're crazy enough to require it. Angela, just be safe, take smart, you know, take smart precautions, and God bless and keep your shield high. Richard hey Buck, hello from North Carolina. I'm sorry behind on your show. Richard. We saved a seat for you. It's okay, but I am catching up. I'm very excited

you're coming here. I got yelled at the other day by someone because I was outside my house not wearing a mask. I gave them a colorful response. People have lost their mind. Shields high. Oh that reminds me. I was going to give a speech in North Carolina in June, but because of state regulations, the hosts have asked me to push it back to August. So I was gonna go, but state regularly. You know, I can't fight city hall,

so to speak, so we pushed it to August. I will be in the great state of North Carolina giving a speech for a whole bunch of folks. Justin right, Hey, Buck, I literally yelled yes when you made the point that the governors are absolutely responsible for following idiotic and reckless advice from the CDC regarding nursing homes. That's the problem with blue states. I'm in New Jersey. The governors are followers, not leaders, and it is a time. It is time

for leadership. You asked how we can resist the lockdown it is the other day. I say we take a page out of the Democrat playbook and start recall campaign jus like they did to Scott Walker, except we actually have good reason. What are your thoughts, um, I mean, Justin, I love the idea of recall campaigns in some of these blue states, except you know that I don't think that Democrats want to hold people responsible for this. They don't. They don't think that what Cuomo did is a big problem,

so they you know, I don't know. I don't know, Christ and I would honestly prefer you stop trying to do Trump. I don't think anyone doesn't, well, not even Alec Ball that who comes closest. It's hard to do Trump's voice without sounding like he's being mocked. So just let that one stick with Bernie, Alex Jones, et cetera. Yeah, Chris, and I'm with you. I think I'm gonna hang up there. Annie and I you know, and I just gently imitate the president with with fondness and affection. But but I

I'm not good. It's not it's not you know, you know why. My heart's not in it. You're right, my heart's not in it where you with other impersonations like doctor Fauci. My heart's in it. My mitigation and my heart. That's gonna be the shout on everybody talked to you tomorrow. Seels high.