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so don't go absolutely anywhere. We've got Terry Shilling from the Americans Principles Project. He'll be joining us Jules Gomez, who I had the great honor of listening to speak at at a conference on National Conservatism this week, making Nationalism great again. From Opening the Books Adam and Jievsky to talk about their latest their latest reports and things that they're figuring out. Open the Books is, by the way,

one of my favorite organizations in this country. Massive massive transparency efforts going into making sure that every cent and every dime that you guys give in your taxes is not being wasted, and of course we know so much of it is being wasted. That's why I always love to have Adam on. And I'll be down at the border in El Paso next week and I've got two people, Brian Colephage and Chris Koback, who are going to be

there with me joining us on the show. In case you don't recognize my voice by now, my name is Raheim Kasama, the editor in chief of human Events dot com. That was Reagan's favorite magazine back in the day, the

oldest conservative magazine in the United States of America. And I have the great honor of sometimes guest hosting for the great Buck Sexton, who is on the road at the moment, and more guests over the course of the show today as well, the most important guest as far as I am ever concerned, because I love radio as a medium, it's probably my favorite one. People say I have a face for radio as well as the voice as well as the dulcet tones. But I love when

you guys call in. So here's the number. Are you ready? Eight four four nine zero zero two eight two five. That's eight four four nine hundred Buck. If you want to have a conversation with me, there is lots to talk about. Is they're not especially over the last twenty four forty eight hours to do with a certain squad. If you don't know what I'm talking about, you have obviously had your head buried in the sand all day long, perhaps all week long. For those who do know what

I'm talking about, well, I'm sure we can agree. But there are some difficult things that America is going to have to deal with in terms of an internal conversation about who these representatives are, how they should best be dealt with. And indeed, what came out at the Trump rally last night in what was one it was in one of the carolines, North Carolina last night. I think first let's let's remind ourselves for a second, if you don't mind, lady and gentlemen, of just who Elan Omar is.

Elane Omar, this congresswoman who has told President Trump and his supporters today that she is in the People's House and that they are going to have to deal. I don't know what she meant by deal, deal with it,

do a deal. I don't know. It was unclear, but Elane Omar's record on any number of issues is not just questionable, it's downright nefarious, from things to do with anti Semitism, the things to do with how she's in the country in the first place, and something I keep banging on about in my rye and whenever I'm on anybody else's show, I have to talk about this about elan Omar, is that her parents and her left Somalia

in an early nineties as quote unquote refugees. They went to Kenya and then they found their way to the United States. But what kind of refugees were they? Precisely because you see, elan Omar's family worked for the revolutionary socialist Islamist government of Somalia and they only left the country when the leader side Bar was deposed. Yea, they were about as much as refugees as Colonel Gaddaffi's kids were,

to my mind, But nobody ever talks about that. Nobody ever talks about what exactly happened in the nineties in Somalia and how people like Elanoma found their way to the United States to spread revolutionary socialism here and all the things that come with fundamentalist interpretations of the Quran, as Bar increasingly did towards the end of his term. But let's remind ourselves for a second of just who elan Omar is. Let's play clip eight, mister producer. When

I was in college, I took a terrorism class. Every time the professor said al Qaeda, he sort of like his shoulders went up, and you know it's in command al Qaeda. You know, hospital, you don't say America with an intensity. You don't say England with an intensity. You know you don't. You don't say the Army with an intensity. CARE was founded after nine eleven because they recognized that some people did something and that all of us were

starting to lose access to our civil liberties. We need to abolish ice and had all inhimane deportation as concession progress. You need to fight back against the criminalization of immigrants and those crossing the border. Extraordinary stuff when you think about it, when you hear it all put close together, you cannot believe that somebody would have elected this person a representative in the United States. First, they let me

make something very very clear. Maybe she doesn't say England with an intensity, but I certainly say England with an intensity. Maybe she doesn't say America with an intensity, but I certainly say America with an intensity. I'm sure you do too, And maybe she doesn't say the army with an intensity, but we say it, don't we, ladies and gentlemen, with both an intensity and a deference and gratitude. And there

is something that elian Oma does not have. She does not have gratitude for the nation that took her and her family in despite their backgrounds, and allowed them to live the American dream, allowed them to pursue happiness, allowed them of its very nature. America is perhaps the most

charitable country in the world in human history. Actually, probably when you look at how many immigrants America lets in every year, when you look at what it's based on, what the country has at its core, When you look at the average American and I say this as somebody who came from somewhere else, as you could probably hear from my accent, but to see the ordinary American in their charitable giving, in the work in their community. All of these things extend upwards to government. But charity is

not limitless. We can't give more than we have. We can't expect to bleed the nation dry to accommodate the rest of the world and their socialist revolutionary refugees. No charity has its limits, and I fear those limits were reached over the course of the last couple of weeks. I think we are living that moment. I think the squad of Presley and Cortez and Omar and Talabe are

exhausting and intentionally exhausting America's charitability. I think they are seeking to bring the worst out in people, and I do think we saw the worst, or at least some of the worst, at last night's Raleigh. Mister producer, can

we played clip number two please? Obviously and importantly, Omar has a history of launching vicious anti semitic that's the crowd in North Carolina chanting send her back, the cause of great consternation amongst CNN and the New York Times and the Washington Post and the chattering classes here on the streets of Washington, DC today. I've even had some ex girlfriends texting me saying, how could you defend President Trump and his crowd after what they said last night?

It's not about defense, It's about understanding. It's about understanding that people will reach their limits. When charity is extended so far and so courteously, and it's thrown back in people's faces, people will naturally reach their limits. But there's another thing to this as well. I don't necessarily think that Omars should be sent back to a place that she left when she was a child. But I also don't think that Elian Omas should be a member of Congress.

I think she has shown herself to be a danger to the United States, a danger to the United States constitution. And nobody called it racist or xenophobic, or bigoted, or any of those catchy words. When in two and eleven there was a White House petition of about one hundred and ten thousand people who signed it, by the way, to deport Piers Morgan, one of my fellow countrymen. Now listen, we all want to deport Piers Morgan. Britain wants to deport peers more than we thought we had got rid

of him to you in twenty eleven. Sadly we have him back now. But nobody called that racist. Nobody called it racist when Senator Dick Durbin Democrats said that he wanted to investigate whether doctor Sebastian Gawker, when he was a member of the Trump administration, should be sent back. But it's selective application of these terms, selective application of

this outrage by CNN and all the others. By the way, CNN, the same CNN that puts puts white nationalist Richard Spencer on the air, CNN contributor Richard Spencer, I'm going to start calling him, by the way. These are the things that we're grappling with today. These are the things that we have to wander. Said. Forget whether or not it was presidential for Trump to tweet what he did a couple of days ago, saying she should go back, forget it.

That's not the conversation we need to be having. We need to be having the conversation of why certain people are a in the country in the first place, if they don't like it be in the country, if they don't intend to constructively contribute, if they're only interested in destruction, as the case seems to be. And see what on earth we're doing with a democratic party that has led by revolutionary socialistic extremists, and how we deal with that.

And those are the conversations that we're going to have today on this show. You're not going to want to miss out. I want you guys to call in and have your say. The number again is eight four four nine two eight two five eight four four nine hundred Buck. This is the Buck Sexton Show. I am Raheem Kassam. We're going to be right back after this break. Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. This is the Buck Sexton Show. He'll probably figured it out by now. I'm not Buck Sexton.

My name is Rahim Becausaman, the editor in chief of human Events dot com. Good friend of Buck Sexton. Although I don't profess to speak for Buck, he's my good friend. Maybe maybe he doesn't put me up there at all, Who knows. I would be sad if that was the case, though. Keen to hear from you guys over the course of this show. Remember the phone lines are open eight four four nine hundred two eight two five eight four four nine hundred buck. I'm also a big advocate again. I

love radio. I'm gonna keep saying it because I don't get to do enough of it anymore. I used to do it every single day over at another network and no longer get to do it. So I jump at the opportunity to do it, and I jump at the opportunity to bring on great guests as well as great callers. And one of the great guests that we have on right now is my good friend Terry Shilling. Terry is the executive director at the American Principles Project. Terry, do I have you? I'm here with him. It's so great

to hear your voice again. Yes, you're there. But do I have you, Terry? You have my full nivided attention. Fine, well, Terry. Look, I went on a bit of a tear about elan Omar. I'm going to be talking about that over the course of the show. But there's so much that happens nowadays. It feels like it's just increasing and increasing in terms of what's going on in the news cycle every day.

But one of them that I didn't want to miss was something you guys have have been active on and around in the last couple of days, which is planned parenthoods chief executive. I think doctor Leanna when was was effectively fired terminated if you will. Yeah, she was terminated at eight ninth into her wow uh presidency. And it's aborted. She was aborted. Yeah, she was aborted about eight months in, which is which is something that she actually supports and

advocates for. Um. She shouldn't really have any frums, but your your colleague, Frank Cannon at the American Principles Project has written an article It just happens to be up on human events dot com as well. So you know, nice, nice dovetailing of the matters here called planned parent Hoodsiana.

When wasn't woken up and nor are you tell us what Frank was talking about in his article and tell us exactly what you guys think, because you guys are kind of one of the biggest voices in the country in terms of in terms of social conservatism, in terms of opposing this, this this broad pro abortion narrative. I mean, you guys are the ones getting the real work done, So give us, give us the skinny on this. Yeah.

So basically our argument, uh in this came out in When's public stage means and even from the board of Plan Parenthood. The main reasons she was terminated at eight months prior gestation is because she wasn't looke enough. She did not want Plane Parenthood to go crazy down this gender theory, this this radical gender ideology stuff that's happening, which basically says that men who identify as women are women and that they should be treated equally with women.

And Meanno n did not want to turn Plan Parenthood into an organization that performed path sneers on mails, possibly because they can't do that on a mail. But the concerning thing for us, and why everyone else should be concerned, is that this was a pattern for the left. They are growing ever more radical day by day, and they are now acquiring strict allegiance not just to the issue set that your organization focuses on, like plan Parenthood and abortion.

And let's be clear, doctor Leanna Len, who's a doctor by the way, supports killing babies even after they're born. I mean, she supports the fanticide totally locked out of them. But because she doesn't think that biological men who identify as women should be eligible for mammogram referrals and pap smear referrals at Plain Parenthood, she was oust it. And the left is going to continue to grow more and more radical every day until they start suffering from real

electoral losses. And I think we have that coming right up the pipe with the re election of President Trump. Is that true or did this law set of mid terms embolden them to move further to the left, And do these people on the stage of the Democrats debates encourage them to move further to the left, and does where the money's coming from encourage them to move further to the left. I mean, I don't see a great reorientation on the political left anytime, so, you know, I mean,

look at the Labor Party in the United Kingdom. That's where this Democrat Party is going at the moment. Hardline revolutionary, Marxist, anti Semitic, and on social issues mental. You know, that's my serie. I think that you know, when you win or lose, it affects, it requires you to readjust in some way or the other. Obviously, Democrats one in twenty eighteen and it has definitely pushed them further to the left. But I think that you're onto something with how radical

their basis. And let's be clear about who the base of the Democratic Party is. It's not your everyday voters like the Republicans have. It's not your Joe Schmo in Detroit, Michigan, right. This is their base is the elite. It's the elite donor class. It's the elite corporate class, academia class. It's it's Manhattan, it's San Francisco, it's Los Angeles. Unfortunately, to some extent. It's Austin, Texas. UM, but it's it's it's

all that, Terry. We've got about twenty seconds left. Just tell the audience where they can find out more about you guys, the American Principles Project and uh and give yourself as a good plug. It's a American Principles Project dot com and I urge everyone to check it out. We're producing a new report in the next few weeks that talks about how important the family is not just super future of country, but to the future of Republican

Party and the conservative roomers love it. Thank you, Terry Shilling, American Principills Project dot com. This is the Buck Sections Show. We'll be right back, of course at eight eight eight four five, five thirty six. He's hold in the line for America. Buckton is back. Welcome back, ladies and Gentlemen's with the Buck Sex Can Show. I'm rahem because I'm filling in for Buck today. And there's always say as I always say when when Buck steps out of the studio,

he says, have you got it? Have you got it? I said, I've got it here, Buck, like just get you know, leave it to me. We're all good you go off on your jollys and your jaunts. Raheem's got the Freedom Hut today and the phone lines are open because we are broadcasting live out of Washington, DC. Eight four four nine two eight two five eight four four nine hundred buck is the number here, and we've got some fantastic I mean, the best, the best. I only

take I only have the best guests. I know the best people, the best guests on today, and one of them that's joining us right now before we come to your calls, ladies and gentlemen, is my favorite meddlesome pre I'm very much hoping we have we have father Jules Gomez on the line. I'm here, Abraham. Thank you so much for having me on. It's terrific to be on your show this evening. No, no, no, listen you are. You are one of my great heroes of this week.

I had the great pleasure of being in the audience when Jules Gomez gives this barn storming speech at the inaugural National Conservatism Conference. I gotta tell you, and as you know, Jules, I know you were big on the conference. I was less big on the conference. I thought it could have been a lot tighter. I thought there was a lot more we could have got out of it, But it was a good inaugural conference as far as new things go, for new causes and new institutions go.

I don't think anybody complain can complain about that. You are one of the stars of the show in my estimation, and I want to hear from you, and I'm sure this audience wants to hear from you about what the National Conservatism Conference was, why you flew halfway around the world for it, and tell us a little bit about what you said and why it's important well to describe

it in words that have been used before. It was a very big hand grenade throne on the playground of political theorists, on the playground of what's going on in terms of contemporary politics. And it was a It was a call to blend some very ancient conservative political theory with some very recent revivals in nationalism and populism that have mushroomed not only in the United States, but as

you know, in certain parts of Europe. And we were privileged to have some of the finest speakers in the world, some of the brightest minds and minds in the world, and it did shake a lot of people. It did shake a traditional conservative thinking focused on the word national Yes, tell us, tell us why it's important. I'll tell you what, Jules. I have talked about this for nearly a decade now, so it feels like a great pat on the back, I suppose, or vindication of the return of nationalism. But

tell us why. That's why that's important, Why nationhood is important? Because everyone in the United States, and I know you're back, You're back in crown sovereign territory right now. But everyone here in the United States is talking about this either hand Omar and all the squad with AOC and all those guys, and of course they are in opposition to the nation state. Remind this audience, as if they need reminding. I mean, this is one of the best audiences on radio.

But just remind them why exactly that's important. Well, first of all, if I may very quickly interject here and say that elam Omar and the squad deserve precisely what Trump said to them. I am a brown skinned immigrant from India to the United Kingdom, and I can sense racism. But President Donald Trump does not have a single racist bone in his body. He was not asking them to get out of the country. He was asking I mean most people forget the second part of what he said.

He was asking them to go back and learn if they can, from those you know what he previously called shit, and come back and teach us something new. So now coming back to nationalism, nationalism has become such a bad word because of phony myths. For example, there are people who say that the Two World Wars were caused because

of nationalism. That's complete rubbish. The two World Wars were an exact, were created as a result of Hitlers and his predecessors desired to build a global interium, a global imperium that would be based on race. It is the diametric opposite of nationalism that caused the wars in Europe. It was globalist imperialism, absolutely, And the whole idea of a nation state goes back. And this is something of what I said, and I drew my ideas from urm

Hazoni's great book The Virtue of Nationalism. It goes right back to three thousand years to God's call to Abraham to build a nation, and that nation would be intern a blessing to other nations. Interestingly, God also asks Ishmael, that tells Ishmael that he was going to make of

him a great nation. And nationalism is in a sense particular, and that is its greatness since you we can talk about you know, I love humankind, but I can't stand the person living next to And nationalism is a counter Nationalism is also a counter narrative to the sheer hubris of thinking that we can build a globalist society for the common good. And that in biblical terms, if I may put it, that at this way is the is the archetypal story of Babel that seeks to build a

totalitarian hegaministic rule that we were challenging at this particular conference. Yeah, it's an incredible point. And as I say, Jules Gomers is one of my favorite speakers at this conference. This. I don't usually like conferences Jewels. I think they're a waste of time. There's a lot of there's a lot of backslapping that goes on. There's a lot of um just time wasting. People want a network and all this. I don't have time for that. I'm a duer, okay,

but this one was a little bit different. And as I say, I think there could have been a little bit more substance in terms of the undergirding of the arguments. But it's inaugural, it's the first one. We forgive the little the little phrase around the edges, but Jewels, you know, this was something different because what it was was slap bang in the heart of Washington, DC, the West, if

not the world's power hub. You had these people who were speaking out against this status quo in the status quo anti which has been globalism, open borders, one world government. And I felt like there was something real and something you know, in a good way disturbing, you know, grahem. If I may say this, people often confuse nationalism and they assume that nationalism is patriotism on steroids. This is

not the case. This is not xenophobia. We're talking about a political theory, and that political theory talks about the nation state as the best organizing principle for doing political life together. Jules, We're going to talk about this more at length in the future. We want to talk to you more on this show. I'm sure Buck will have you on. I'll have you on whenever I'm guest hosting as well. Your website is Jules Gomez with an SMS dot com? Is that correct? The Rebel Priest to Jules

Gomez with an s at the end dot com. Jules, I'm so grateful for you joining us here on the buck Sexton Show, especially because I know it's late in the night where you are, and so we're always grateful to people staying up and communicating with this audience. Jules Gomez dot com, Father Jewles Gomez, thank you so much for joining us here on the Bucks. More firepower to your rockets. Thank you so much. Well, my rocket needs all the help it can get. We're going to go

to a break right now. This is the buck Sexton Show. I'm Rahem Kassam. We'll be back in just a moment. Welcome back into the buck Sexton Show. I'm Raheem Kausam, broadcasting live out of Washington, DC. If you want to find out more about me, you can go to human events dot com. You can go to at Raheem Kasan. That's r H E E M K A S S A M on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, parlor, all of the things. I'm all over those things mostly because I have to

be on those things. If I could not be on social media, believe you me, I wouldn't be I come to you guys on the phone lines now. If you're looking to Collins eight four four nine two eight two five eight four four nine hundred buck, I want to start in. I think Philadelphia. Were in Philadelphia. We got Felix on the line. Phelix, are you with us? Yeah? Sol him what a pleasure always Hello. So how are you doing today? I'm fine. Well, I'm a little perplexed. Actually,

you know, I'm a big Donald Trump supporter. Actually I was happy to hear that you were gonna be on. I had a number of topics I would have loved to discuss with you. But after hearing President's Trump's disavowal, you know, of this audience there and rally, I'm a little bit upset that he gave in and he basically kissed the boots of the left. Okay, well, I think he should have explained, you know what the people are thinking, because I mean, we're not racist, we're you know. But however,

I mean, Felix, it's interesting, is it. Nobody's ever said send her back to Ian Hersey Ali, who is a refugee from Somalia who has integrated and assimilate and become a very, very constructive part of the American fabric. Nobody's ever said that to her, Nobody's ever said it to just a grand plethora of people who have come to the United States from all different walks of life, from all different backgrounds, from all different ethnicities, from all different

skin colors. And I only say skin color because the left cares about skin color. Felix. It's this one woman, right who is particularly agregious, particularly offensive. I don't mean offensive as him, I'm offended. I mean she attempts to be on the offensive as far as the American Constitution is concerned, on a daily basis. Felix, I agree with you in the sense that Trump says, and I quote, I was not happy with it. I disagree with it

when he's talking about to send her back chant. But again, Felix, I would add to that, he's speaking in the Oval office, two reporters in a circumstance that is about fifteen to twenty seconds long. He needs to get that one message across that says, actually, we don't need this woman to leave the country to defeat her ideas. We can defeat

them right here. Felix. Yes, well, you're right. But unfortunately he opened the door, you know because right away, you know, the left everyone is jumping all over him, and he disavowed and so basically, you know, he cowed happed them. I know what you're saying, but I really was quite upset and I really actually wanted to talk to you about things that the left drows and that's like the history of slavery in this country. Slave owner that hello, yes,

you've got time, go ahead. Oh I'm sorry, Yeah, that was actually a black slave owner that changed the what the court ensued and actually made turn to slaves into property that once the slave owner died, in other words, they were not set free. They were they were they were property. And this was actually accomplished by a black slave owner. And quite frankly, it was the Western jude or Christian cultures that put an end to slavery. And as far as being enslaved, they are already slaves before

they came here. And it was you know, basically people of their own and probably particularly the Muslims, you know, who were the predominant slaves traders. And there were two and a half million to three million white slaves that were you know, in North Africa, look, Felix, and thank you so much for your call. Felix. We know the real serious people, the people who look at history. We know about the Arab slave trade, we know about William Wilberforce.

We know who really started this whole thing and who really ended it. Okay, And I think in the grand scheme of things, most conscientious of voting Americans know that. And I share your concerns, and I'm sure you have them. I'm putting words in your mouth now, Phelix, but I'm sure you feel it this way, that the next generation is not that conscientious about what it knows. And the left, be it the left people in Nike or the left people on television, are intent in their falsehoods, are intending

their lies. They are leading people down the wrong path of both American history and contemporaneous events. However, I feel like there's something changing. And it's not just changing in America. It's changing all across the Western world. People aren't willing to send their children to these common core schools anymore. People aren't willing to say to their children take on one hundred and twenty thousand dollars worth of debt over the course of your lifetimes in order to be indoctrinated.

And so I see, as long as we are willing to keep banging those drums and keep bringing that energy to the table, that we may well just win this

fight in the long run. And I'm still delighted no matter what he cowtowed two this morning that the president is Trump and is anyone else at this point in time, because believe you me, it would be a lot us under Hillary certainly, but I think it might be a whole lot worse under Rubio or Bush or somebody that would have not just been willing to count out to the left, but actually go further than their agenda in the hopes of proving that they weren't a racist or

weren't whatever it is ist they throw it us nowadays, I think we have a couple of minutes left. Can we get Darren in West Virginia on the line, darreny with us. Hello, Hey, Darren, how's it going. It's going well? Thank you? Let us have it. It's all yours, yeah, thank you. So, first of all, I just want to make a comment about the the chant last night in

the President's response today. First of all, I think you know when you have a crowd of enthusiastic people, no matter no matter what their political strips are, whether it's at a sporting event or at a political event. Mob rule is a you'll sing and so once one person starts chanting it in the heat of the moment, other people start chanting in as well. And it's a wrestling match,

come on, ye yes, yes. And I suspect that a lot of people that chanted that last night may have second thoughts about it today, that that perhaps that was one one step too far saying send her back yea. So so I agree with the president, Darren. We've got about we've got about twenty five seconds before the break,

go ahead, Yeah, okay, yep. So the other thing I was gonna say is I just want to draw a parallel between Carter and you know, Carter and the malaise that the United States was in, and then Reagan coming in afterwards, and then we had Obama and now we have Trump, and I think that there's these pendulum swings that happen back and forth in politics, and sometimes we

just have to wait for the cycles to get better. Darren, I do not disagree with you one bit, and thank you so much for your cool sorties, little bit rushed here at the end of the first hour. But the great news is this is only the first hour, ladies and gentlemen, we have two more left. This is Rhem Kassam on the Buck Sexton Show. Call in, don't miss out eight for four two five. We'll be guys buck Sexton here in the Freedom Hunt with Charles Thornbrenn, CEO

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since the Buck sex Can show. My name is Rhem because I'm filling in for Buck Sexton from the Freedom Hut in downtown Washington, d C. It is a swelteringly hot day, in case you are wondering here in DC one hundred degrees all that humidity and so on and so forth. So I can't wait, frankly to get down to the border next week. And we will be going down to the border in El Paso for the We Build the Wall organization, and I'm very glad to have the organization's founder and CEO joining us on the line.

At Brian called Faja, US Air Force veteran and the founder of We Build the Wall dot US. Welcome to the Buck Sexton Show, hey man, thanks for having me on. Hey Brian, So I remember when you launched We Build the Wall, this crowdfunding operation to get around all of the nonsense that the US government is going through to try and get a secure border. You'd think it would be quite easy for a nation to get its secure border, but the Democrats don't want it to happen. The media

doesn't want it to happen. So you guys said, you know what, we'll do it ourselves. And there's something about that that is just incredibly American and also incredibly American armed services that would get something like that done, and you have done it. Tell us a little bit about what you've done, and a little bit about what's taking place next week in El Paso, because I have never

been there and I'm very excited to be there. Yeah. Well, you know, you'd think it would be something that you know, a lot of our politicians would want to have national security, but as we learned, they do and they I think it's because they're profiting off bits. And you know, we've been able to expose a lot of corruption, a lot of things with this process. And what we did was we built our first border section, which plugged a gap. There was a half mile gap on the border and

this area was this overrun with illegals coming through. I mean it was crazy. It was like the Wild West like stuff. You've seen the videos of people running across in Europe and the property owner was sick of it. The sick and tired of it. And he was an eighty five year old Vietnam veteran, a fighter pilot and a chemical engineer, very smart, and no one would do anything for this guy. I mean the federal government denied building him a wall. They said they couldn't build it

because it was impossible to build up the mountain. And it just struck a chord with me and our team were like, how can this be impossible? You know that this shouldn't be impossible to build a wall, build a fence, any type of barrier up this mountain. And that's what we did. It took us less than a month and we built it. And now this guy he has security and not a single sent of build across since we

built it. It's amazing. I went from a hundred crossings a day, one hundred people across the day out to zero and then not a one in the sense we built it. Just just just think about that, ladies and gentlemen, I mean, you have a you have a hundred crossings a day illegally in just one little place. How How big is the stretch? Bryan a half a mile a half a mile and you're in you're stopping that, You're

stopping thirty six odd thousand people. A Yeah, now maybe some of them are going elsewhere and whatever, But the point is that you you you build on that, you expand that, and you secure the nation's borders. Tell us a little bit about how, you know, how you guys did that, Like how did you fundraise for it? What were the logistical things? And tell us about El Paso next week. Yeah, Well, the fundraising was just a viral

campaign to build a border wine. I think it did strect a chord with everyone who was fed up with our federal government of not taking action, and it gave people a way to donate and to speak up. And they were speaking up by donating, and that's how we raised every single penny and we raised over two million dollars just from people giving five dollars. That's a lot.

It's a lot of five dollars donations the add up to two million, and you know it just it gave the American people a way to have direct impact and know that every single dollar they were donating was going to build something that would protect our nation and show the federal government that we can get it done. Um. I think it's in the time of crisis. Americans have always come together to fix a problem or come together to unite and get the job done. And that's what

we saw here. Um. And every every wall that we build is basically it's protests wall. It's giving the middle finger to these politicians in DC who say Americans don't want it, and we're showing them that the Americans do want it because they're building it themselves, mile by mile and for half the cost. And you've taken and you've taken the flat personally on this as well from in a political sense, the media, you know, trying to smear you and now the latest things they've come up with.

Oh and you're hitting roadblocks and you can't get it done. Oh what do they think? I mean, here's the thing. You are a person who has come along to this and said I want to build something that a lot of the country wants. Right, and of course there are going to be logistical problems. Of course that it's the same in any business. It's the same in any line of work. But they big it up and they say, oh, well,

you know they're failing and this thing will never get done. Meanwhile, I can see the diggers, I've seen the videos, I've seen the wall itself, and I'm flying down there to El Paso with you next week. Tell us a little bit about what's going down at the symposium next week

and how people can can be a part of it. Yeah, you know, if you go to our website, we build a Wall dot us, there's a link that goes to the Wall Symposium website and what this is we want to invite you know, Americans and you know, it doesn't matter what your political affiliation is. We want people to come down there and see what we build. And also we want to educate people and our politicians on what's going on and what we've learned, and UM, bring everyone

together on this on the real crisis. And we've learned that you know, there's a lot of there's chaos going on at the border and certain politicians and certain people are benefiting from this. They're they're benefitting from the chaos. Um, it's all about money and it's only hurting the American people and that they're they're enabling this crisis. And uh, it's time that we start uniting and standing up and

educating people on what's going on. And this this is what this is about about education and uh, you know, going into the twenty twenty elections, you want to make sure that the right people are educated on what's really going on because a lot of people don't understand what's really going on. And that's why even Louis Gombert's coming down there and saying he wants to see what's going on and see what we've build and learn and learn about all the craft going on and DC that we've

been dealing with. Yeah, you have you have an old star cost coming down next week. I mean you, David All see Sheriff David Clark, A Congressman, Louis Gomet, Mike Sanovich, Adam Brandon, Chris Kobank who's going to be on the show just after you, and of course yours truly Rahem Kassam will be that. You know, this is going to be quite the event. Um just tell us, look, you can you can. You can put your name on a brick,

you can put your name on a ball. Odd, tell us tell us a little bit about that and how people can get involved with that. Yes, um, you know that's just another another way to get the American people involved that they want to um buy a brick. Um. We're selling bricks for one hundred dollars and you put your name on it and those bricks will go down at the base of the wall. And there's many there's other things that people can buy if you just go to our website we build the Wall dot us and

has it in there. But this will be enshrined at this wall for generations and it's it's a way to take part in it. And with with that donation, it goes to fund our next quarter wall segment, which we're

working on right now. And so it's very important that you know we can keep we keep driving this for we want to keep standing up so that these politicians and DC you say that America that want it and we're not going to stop building and some of money runs out and it's people like yourself, are you know, putting the word out there to keep this moving and we really appreciate it. Well, Brian, we hope the money never does run out. That's Brian Coulfage, We Build the

Wall dot US. Brian, thanks so much for joining us here on the buck Sex in the show. So proud. Thanks for having me on. Thanks for the support absolutely, ladies and gentlemen. We're going to have Chris Koback on next as well. You will perhaps remember him has run for Senates, has been one of the pioneers behind the voter fraud investigations that have been taking place over the last couple of years. Big, big supporter of the president,

and the President's a big sport of his. He's also going to be down there in El Paso next week where a lot of us are we trying to bring attention to the fact that the border wall has not been built because of the obstructionism in Washington, DC. And so therefore, just as the founding of your nation, ladies and gentlemen, citizen action is required. I'm going to be pleased to be down there. This is the Buck Sexton Show.

My names or him, because on the phone lines are open if you want to have your say, eight four four nine hundred two eight two five eight four four nine hundred bucks still to come on the show, as I say, Chris Koeback, Matt Peterson of the Claremont Institute, Peggy Grandy, who's going to be launching a new pro Brexit organization in the United States, in a couple of days. I'm want to talk to you about that and a whole lot more. Stay tuned, we'll be right back. Welcome back,

ladies and gentlemen. It's The Buck Sexton Show, broadcasting live out of Washington, DC, Thursday the eighteenth of July two thousand and nineteen. Delighted to have joining us now, Chris Koeback. Chris, good, good evening to you. Great through with you. Well, depending on where you are in the world. Where are you in the world at the moment, I am in Kansas, so it is oh, okay, it's just it's just into

the Chris. We sadolged you're joining us, and I think you and I are going to bump into each other next week down at the border in El Paso as well. Yeah, so I want to talk to you a little bit about that and your work. Would we build the ball but you're also running again, tell us a little bit about that before we move on to south or on

the border. Right. So, I threw my hat in the race for an open US Senate seat representing Kansas, and one of the driving issues is, of course, the failure of the US Senate to move the ball on building the wall. Indeed, the Senate has been dragged, kicking and screaming, it seems, whenever the President wants to make progress, I'm anything related to illegal immigration. And so, you know, I'm hoping that in the United States Senate, I'll actually be

able to carry the flag to the President. And more specifically, because I've been litigating as an attorney, I've been fighting the ACLU and court on a number of these immigration issues, representing ICE agents, representing cities like Hableton, Pennsylvania, be able to you know, know more than the staffers do about what statutes need to be changed, you know, how to

close the asylum loopholes. We really don't have an immigration expert in the US Senate right now, and I'm hoping to fill that void, not just for people of Kansas, but for all Americans to care about this issue well. And it's one of those seats where so many high profile names have been thrown in there. You know, you've had Mike Pompeio a jeep Pie. They've both declined on that match lap the head of the ACU and all

these other guys. What sets you apart if you're doing your sort of pitch to the Kansas audience of this show right now, from from any other potential candidates. Well, there's there's two things. One is, of course, my experience

on the immigration front, which is so critical. And then the second is I was a professor of constitutional law for fifteen years in the Kansas City area, and that expertise I think is important right now in our country because we've got so many constitutional principles that right down to one vote in the United States Supreme Court, whether you're talking about the Second Amendment, you're talking about the commerce power and its abuse in the passing of Obamacare,

whether you're talking about the right to life, you name the issue. It seems like almost every one is a five four decision, including the ridiculous decision we got recently saying that the United States could not ask on the census whether a person is a citizen for an administrative reason, not for a constitutional reason. And so it's absolutely important. It's a very interesting point. Why is the Supreme Court weighing in on logistical concerns rather than what's constitutional or not.

So the AHL you threw everything they could at the citizenship question, which is one of the things I've discussed with President Trump, and I was one of the early people to talk to him about that issue. And they threw the a constitutional challenge, They threw a statutory challenge under the Census Act, and then their last challenge they threw in an administrative law challenge, and the US Supreme Court said it. They denied the acl used constitutional challenge.

They said it's perfectly constitutional to ask this question and it's been done for just about every census, and they said it doesn't violate the Census Act. But on the Administrative Procedure Act challenge, they went really into the into the weeds and said, well, the way you gave the justification for this Commerce Department is not quite right, and

we need you to do it all over again. And because the Supreme Court issued its decisions so late in the game, the Commerce Department decided that they weren't going to try to rush through and do it a second time under the administrat procedirect is an absolute disgrace. I think it's an absolute disgrace, Chris. I mean, honestly, this is this is something that's taking place in almost every single US census that has ever been and it's something that at this point in time, I'm sure you would

agree is needed now more than ever. Oh, it absolutely is needed. They're too There are multiple big reasons, I guess the three biggest ones are. First of all, we've got so many non citizens living in the United States right now that we have a gross violation of the principle of one man or one person, one vote. Let's imagine that you live in you know, in California, in a district that has three hundred fifty thousand citizens and

three hundred and fifty thousand non citizens. I live in Kansas and there are seven hundred thousand citizens and virtually no non citizens. So let's just imagine your vote is twice as strong as mine because you have half the number of voters in your district. And the Supreme Court ruled more than fifty years ago, but you can't have unequal district sizes. So that's one reason. Another is that the fourteenth Amendment requires the United States to know how

many citizens it has, which is absolutely essential. And another reason is, you know, we've been estimating how many legal aliens we have for decades now, and nobody really knows. It could be eleven million, it could be thirty millions.

If we ask this question. On the census, you can deduce pretty quickly how many you have because you then know how many aliens and how many citizens you have, and you can subtract the number of legal aliens that are currently authorized to be in the United States from the number of total number of aliens, and you can actually get a pretty accurate account of illegal aliens. But of course, travesty that's on there. But we hope, we hope President Trump's ways of getting around that will be equally,

if not more accurate in terms of identifying that. The jury is still out. Let's talk a little bit about where we'll be next week al Paso. Yes, Chris, we build a wall dot US. We just had Brian Colpage on the show as well, just before you gave us a little rundown of what's going on there. Tell us why it's so important to you and why you think people should be involved. Well, let me put it in

a personal perspective. So I've been fighting the fight on the immigration issue for the better part of two decades and including helping draft Arizona's SP ten seventy, representing ICE agents against the ahlu are Sorry, against the Obama administration, and of all the things I've done, I have to say, we build the Walls project has been the most exciting and tangible. We have actually, for the first time in American history, put up privately constructed wall on the border

of the United States. And it's superior to the wall constructed by the US government. It's similar, but superior in many respects. And so it's an amazing opportunity for people to get involved and actually do something tangible to improve the security United States. And you can see your money going to work. And so this conference down on the border next week is partly about the building of the wall, but it's also about the larger issue of why we

have a crisis in immigration right now. You'll be there speaking, I'll be there speaking a whole host of experts from all over the country, and indeed all over the world will be coming in to speak about why we need to secure our border and the various crises that are involved. That's exactly right. Please go back, tell people where they can go to check out more about your campaign. Maybe

if they fancy donating, they might do that too. Yes, if anyone wants to support the campaign or just find out more, they can go to my website, which is Chris Koback dot com. It's k R I S. Kobac dot com. Thank you so much for joining us here this Thursday afternoon, Chris Koeback, My pleasure, ladies and gentlemen. The phone lines are open. I want your response to all of these things at eight four four nine hundred two eight two five eight four four nine hundred buck

is the number here. We're gonna go to a quick break, and I have segmented the next section out for you guys, So don't be shy. Hop on the lines. If you're hostile, if you're favorable, if you're somewhere in between, you have a question, if you have a comment. I love hearing from you guys out there. Eight four four nine hundred two eight two five. This is the Buck Sexton Show. I'm rahem because we'll be right back. Welcome back. It's

the Buck Sexton Show. I'm rahem becauseum filling in for the traveling Buck Sexton this evening broadcasting live out of Washington, DC. Phone lines are open eight four two five eight four nine hundred buck. Coming to you guys on the lines. Now, let's go to line two. Anthony's in Baltimore, Anthony Good evening, Well, I just wanted to say that I really don't think

Donald Trump's a racist at heart. I think because of the way he was brought up, you know, kind of insulated and living the lifestyle of you know that his father provided him, he didn't really grasp at depth of

what racism really is. But he's been unligned with it because, you know, like during the Obama time when he was he said he had the proof that Obama wasn't a citizen, and that kind of played into the narrative that was going on because you know, most black people here in this country have the names of the people who owned, you know, when doing slavery. Obama came with a real African name, and you know that it's you know, it kind of you know, created a stare amongst folks that

were willing to believe he wasn't a citizen. And when the NFL players got down on their knees begging for the same liberty that everyone else has, you know, I think he kind of fell in line with putting them down, not really knowing the extent of the terrorism that black people, including myself, have endured for decades in this country. I mean, it's it's you know, it was, it was, it was terrible.

But you know, I think if he had, if he had handled the NFL situation differently, I think he'd had black people in his camp solidly Democrat, repubn whatever they are. But you know, I think you get wrong advice on that because what was going on on the street, you know, I mean, I know and don't think that it's you know, I mean people say if people don't like this country should go. I mean, black people lived in this country for a couple of hundred years and they couldn't have

been happy with the way they were treated. But they put too much into building this country too me, So you know, And I think, Anthony, you bring up some really interesting points because there are so many distinctions to be made where right, there are so many. It's like for me, it gets very and like you, I come from a sort of ethnic minority background. Although it doesn't you don't really care. It doesn't doesn't define who I am,

and I very care about it. When I get the left, however, telling me how I should think and how I should act, and how I should feel about something, how I should vote, how I should behave as a result of all those things, then it starts a sort of way on me and grind my ears, and you know, like you, I don't think. I mean, look, if Donald Trump had been a racist for any part of his career, for any part of his life, we would have known about it way before

the political campaign of twenty sixteen. And we would have known about it way before Elie Omar started flapping. It was about it as well. It's worth food for discrimination and housing. But again, you know, I think, yeah, but also Anthony, don't forget he also won an award. He won an award. He's pictured there winning an award from from ethnic minority. So this swings in life. You know, not everything is just clear cut. Yeah, I know it's not.

That's why I say I don't believe he's a racist. Yeah, I agree, I just believe that, you know, because of the way he was raised, he was somewhat insulated from what we you know, say would be a down south, down hardcore racist. I know that can and you know I lived a month from and I sort of damage that he did to my father and family and what they did to me. But you know, I don't think he had any clue to that. And that comes from you know, him having a life in commercial real estate.

I mean, if he'd have been a studied sociology or you know some other you know, it might have given him more insight whether he could have you know, meld his position. And I mean, I'm a I'm a hardcore listen, but man like a baby. When George Bush died, and I have to say this, I am so glad for so very many reasons that this president never studied sociology. Okay,

there is so many we have. We have this joke in England where I'm from about the allergies, right, and how people go into into pseudosciences and social sciences because they don't know how to build anything, and they don't want to create anything, and they don't want to risk take anything themselves. And this is something this man has done.

Let me ask you this and today, how do you let's let's take President Trump out of this equation for a second, how do you think that the country should receive the squad Eli Omar and Rashida Talaev and AOC and all these guys are you are you a fine? What do you think we should do with them? Well, you know, I am opposed to any band on Americans that prohibit them from protesting anything. Include No, I'm not talking about that. I'm not talking about that. You and

I will agree on that. We're both liberals in that sense. But the issues she brought up, you know, we shouldn't be able to you know, you shouldn't lose your job because you boycott or have an opinion about a country. And that doesn't mean you're anti Semitic just because you don't like Israeli policies, you know, I mean, I can be convinced that, you know, for strategic reasons, we maybe

need to support Israel. But I think in this country we got off track thinking that they are the biblical Hebrews or the descendants of Christ, and they are not there. You know, the converts from the you know, Cassarian Kingdom on the King's and they converted to Judius Anthony. That's

that's Anthony. That's all fine, But what do you That's all fine for you to have and to hold as as an opinion to say that thing, But what do you do when you have a sitting congresswoman who has all I mean, I guess you've been listening to the whole show, did you did you hear me at the beginning? What do you do when you have the sketchy backs

as far as what she has said? You know, these are the these are sore points in this country because you know, you really can't criticize the goodnment of Israel without repercussions, you know, senious repercussions. I mean, well, and I and I and I respect you for for for saying that and being clean about it. But there are a lot of people in this country you will accept, and in my country and all across Europe antony who who both want to criticize the government of Israel and

one to criticize quote unquote the Jews. As a result, you understand that those people exist, right, Yeah, I mean I understand that. But you know, you know, like I say, I can be convinced to you know, to support strategic reasons. We've we've sup supported worst governments in Israel for strategic reasons. But you know, but the main reason we're behind Israel is everyone has the assumption that they are somehow related to the biblical Hebrews. They are not. They are comm

not shrump start a converted converted to Judaism. This is this, this, this has been the big fraud. I mean, they call you anti Semitic, and Semitic is a class of languages and all of them are indigenous to Africa. Arabic is a Semitic language, you know. Almanic is a Semitic andy. We really got we really got thirty seconds left in this uh in this anton ant. They appreciate it. We're gonna have to leave there. We're gonna go thirty seconds

left until hard break. Believe me, if I could take us beyond, I would, But they tend to get a little bit mad when I cut their advertisers off. But Anthony, thank you very much for the call. I do disagree in your in your analysis there of why the United States has strategically supported the Nation of Israel, the Jewish state for all these years. I think there's far more to it than just, you know, believing in the descendency

of certain people. I think it is the only free nation in the entire region, and I think that means a lot, an awful lot to a lot of people in the Western world. This is the Buck Sexton Show. I'm Aham Kassam We're going to be right back after this break. Buck Sexton Remission, decoding the news and disseminating information with actionable intelligence. Manor mistake, America, You're a great American again. This is the Buck Sexton Show. Pharma, CIA analysts, No,

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read them out as the show goes on. I'm delighted to be joined now by one of my great heroes, Matthew Peterson from the Claremont Institute, one of my favorite think tanks in the entire world, and of course I'm a massive nerd, so I would have a favorite think tank list. Matt Thanks for joying us here on the show. Grehem, it's great to be here and bring word from a place where we don't have the amenity and it's not a swamp, sunny southern California, which actually does have a

conservative think tank. I know, it's extraordinary. A lot of people don't know about it. And well, hopefully we'll have the time in this segment for you to give the Claremont Institute and your new website to the American Mind, which is an American Mind dot org. We'll give it another plug later on. Well, I want to talk to you about this fantastic article you've written. It's called Stiffening the Backbone of the Right. It was published on American Greatness,

which is another one of my favorite sites. Matthew, talk us through this I guess call to arms that you've issued, because it's getting a lot of traction on the conservative interwebs. Yeah, so this actually stems from the reaction that I see, and I see this reaction all the time in the conservative world, especially in the intellectual side of it, where people go, oh my gosh, hold on a minute, the left can't actually do this, that's terrible. How could they?

And I just you know, I think anyone who's sensible. The people are leading right now, not the intellectuals, thank god, the people are out in front. But you know, anyone who's sensible on this knows, of course there's no rules for the left, That's how they operate. And so I wrote this up ed because people were saying, how could CNN give a platform to an actual neo Nazi, Richard Spencer, who they put on air to call Trump's tweets racist?

How could they do that? And you saw people on the right and the left saying this, and I just I just thought, guys, we know they don't care. There are no rules for them. They don't have to apologize for any of this stuff. They don't operate in the in the same you know, universe of physical laws that the right has to and it's just three years into Trump that we stopped playing by their rules. Let's let's put a little bit of context around this for the

people that don't know out there. The Richard Spencer is this guy who is an avowed white nationalist, an avowed

ethno nationalist. He has almost nothing in common with the real right, but he's been held as this flag bearer, as this torch bearer for what has become known as the alt right for so very many years now that we can't stop hearing about him, even though he's got really no reach, no pull, no institution, no organization, no cardret of individuals, intellectual or otherwise that support him, And time and time again the media and the establishment political

classes have tried to tie him and is very very small group of friends to the Trump administration and to conservatism. And of course no right wing outlets have ever sought to promote Richard Spencer. But the one who did this week was not a right wing outlet. It was CNN. CNN puts him on television to rebuke Trump and to rebuke the Trump administration as if to say, you're losing

your core support. But this person was never part of the core support, never part of one of the one of the stools legs of the stools of the of the of the Trump base. So it's it's kind of a ropodope that's been going on here, And I just

don't understand. It doesn't really compute to me about how Brian Stelter and Oliver Darcy and Chris Cuomo and Jake Tapper and all of these guys who waxed lyrical day in and day out over the dangers of promoting the old right and the ethno nationalists and all these guys. They then put him on national television, right and and raheem,

I mean exactly right. And as you know, well, you know, the big tech platforms will cut you off for something much less than covorting around with you know, neo Nazis or spouting hate. I mean, so so here they are flagrant hypocrisy. Did They wanted him on air though, because they wanted him to say that Trump's tweets were great and they were racist, and he did, but then he immediately went on to say to complain that Trump has done nothing for white nationalists, and then they kind of

cut the interview off. But but you know, my point is they don't care, right, I mean, they don't have to care because they don't have to play by the same rules they impose on everybody else. So what's your solution, Well, I mean, you know, your rop ed was read out this morning, I think by the Great Russia Limbaugh correct me if I'm wrong, which gets a whole load of traction. And I'm sure you've had a whole lot of eyes on this thing. Just condense it down to us. What

do you say, what are the solutions? Where are you going with this? Yeah, well, I think the point is I'm just to give some other examples besides race. I mean, look, mainstream media outlets, as I say, don't have to apologize for wild conspiracy theories that terrify half the country, right, I mean, you have to apologize for not believing them about Russian college. They don't have to apologize for spreading crazy stories about Justice Kavanaugh being a serial gang rapist.

But you have to believe all women, right, So this is the game they play. So the solution is very important. I think people have to start to recognize when they're playing by the left's rules. They have to stand up and be courageous and reject that entire framework. And that's going to take some doing. And I think people really need to think, they need to study up on the

problem of identity politics and political correctness. This isn't these these phrases are referred to dangerous ideas that are that are impacting America in a very serious way. And we have to understand what's going on and what this framework

of the left is. And I mean there's plenty on the American mind dot org about the danger of entity politics and political correctness, which has become its own religion at this point, and there's all kinds of things we can do to fight against it, but first we have to understand it. And ultimately, I think all Americans should rest on the principle that all human beings are created equal according to the laws of nature and Nature's God, and that means that racism on both sides is a problem.

But we need to we need to acknowledge when the left is playing a double standard, right, And that's exactly what's going on. And that's why people are so mad and stand with Trump against the squad, because they see they see the you know, they see the way the squad thinks about America, and it's it's not a matter of treating all people equally. I think that's exactly right. I mean, I wrote, I wrote I wouldn't say something similar, but in a similar sort of thread of thought yesterday

on human events. Everyone's gone nuts for power and profit was that was the name of the article, and it sort of goes through I don't know if you see this sort of exactly how this new outrage over Chris Pratt, this actor wearing a T shirt with the Adsden flag on it came about effectively, there were four or five people on Twitter who complained about this, obviously not knowing

the gads and flag's history and any of that. And then Yahoo News takes the tweets and says Chris Pratt criticized for wearing this racist T shirt or whatever they said about it, and then the whole country has to work itself into a tizzy in order to play Kate, this writer at Yahoo News who's decided to create a national ferraria over something that really isn't controversial at all, and just time and time again, and to adopt an American colloquialism. As you know, I'm not often want to do, Matt.

They're playing us, yes, yes, And that's the thing I mean. I think that it's important for people to realize that there's lots of normal people out there who certainly care about, you know, opposing racism and making sure that people are treated equally. That's the point, to treat people equally under the law that is America. But everyone is starting I think increasingly, more and more people on the writer are starting to realize that in the hands of the left,

this is just a tool. This is just a tool for power. They don't have to abide by the same rules. Right, they can stay governor even though they make sick jokes about blackface in the KKK. Well they're in medical school. But god forbid, you know you're committing microaggressions. You're not even aware of an ancestors you never knew. You must atoned for, right. I mean, this is ridiculous and so so so in what we need our leaders who can

stand up against it. And this is in large part Trump's success because by not backing down, by by sticking you know, his his his flag, planning his flag. People rally around that because they're looking for someone to call the game what it is. Matt, I assure you there is nothing micro about my aggressions. Okay, now I know this Firsthandpa, I'll just test a fire to that who to the audience for him that has macroaggression problems, you know,

on a daily basis. Matt, tell us the way we can find more about your work at the Claremont Institute in the American Mind. You can go to American Mind dot org and Claremont dot org to learn more about the Claremont Institute and full disclosure, I am at Claremont Institute, Lincoln Fellow, and therefore I will say subscribe also to

the Claremont Review of Books. It is one of the most magnificent reads you can get in through your mailbox every quarter to the point where I have canceled dates and it's not a lie because CRB has arrived on my doorstep that day. That is how committed I am to that. Matt Peterson, thank you so much for joining us here on the Buck sex in the show. Oh thank you as well. Thanks again anytime, ladies and gentlemen,

make sure you're on the phone lines. It's eight Fri four, nine hundred two eight two five eight foot four, nine hundred buck going to come to you guys pretty soon. Got a couple of more great interviewees for you. In the meantime, we're going to be right back with more after this short break. Welcome back to the Buck Sexton Show. My name is Rahim Kassam, the editor in chief of Human Events dot com, joining you for the last gosh half an hour or so the show. Where does the

time go? Ladies and gentlemen, the phone lines are open here eight four four nine hundred two eight two five eight four four nine hundred buck. There's breaking news coming out of the straight of Alma's, out of the Gulf of Alma's, and breaking news coming out of the White House. As a result, I've got Adam Credo, one of the senior reporters at the Washington Free Beacon and a great friend of mine, joining me on the line now to

help us and pack that. The headline of the Wall Street Journal right now, Trump says, us ship down to Iranian drone in the straight of Almos. Adam, welcome to the show. Help us, help us unpack this. Yeah, thanks for having me man, So I will pointing up the Iranians denied that a drone was lost, so it's kind of unclear. I tend to believe the President more than I do the Iranians, given their pattern of why all of the time, and of course cheating on the nuclear program.

But this is a little bit of tit for tat. I also got to say, I don't see the Iranians as doing more in reaction to this than continuing to throw temper tantrums, which is what they've been doing, their harassment of tankers in the Persian Gulf and the straighter her moves like you mentioned, also their downing of our drone. These are provocative actions, but actually agreed with the President when he called off a military strike. It really didn't seem to be worth it for what they were doing.

This is as always Iran acting poorly in order to try to get the Europeans and of course the United States to roll back some of these harsh sanctions and save their economy right, and it doesn't seem to be working. Actually, people seem to be wising up, or is my good friend Steve Bannon always says getting the joke. The Europeans especially are quite a quite laccadacicle and woolly on this. Wanted to stick with the Iran deal when it was even abundantly clear that they the Iranians, had no intent

of following along with it. And now even the Europeans seemed to be waking up, The Germans, the French seemed to be waking up to what the Iranians really are all about. I mean it, It sort of is evident to the everyman, but hasn't been evident to the career political classes and the career civil service classes across Europe

for some time now. The Iranians also saying that they have seized an an oil tanker and its crew in the last couple of hours, which sort of ups the anti I suppose, But again, these guys are not used to really following through on their threats. There's been a lot of threats in the last couple of weeks, but no real action as a result. Tell us, Adam, this is your beat. You cover this day in and day out. You have probably the best source network in Washington, DC

and beyond. On this topic, do the Iranians actually have anything to say but rattle about? Yeah, they do. When they don't look, they can cause trouble. They are armed to the teeth over there. I mean, it's not necessarily a match for the United States in a full on

military conflict or maybe you would absolutely decimate them. But they can do what they've always done, and that's terrorism, whether it's through the IRGC they're or military fighting force or the terror groups they sponsor like Zabola and Lebanon and Hamas and the guys a strip over there, and I would certainly expect them to continue this type of stuff, but raise an interesting point about the Europeans may be kind of finally coming around and realizing that appeasement, stopping

sanctions doing business with Iran actually did nothing. They continue to cheat it to deal. We know now that that we're supposed to dismantle the Fordale military bunker that's built into the side of a mountain and that housed their nuclear weapons program. That never happened. They completely did not live up to that portion of the agreement. So as this information starts to trickle out, I think the Europeans are saying, well, the approach we've been taking has not

been working. Maybe there's a better way. And from the end of the Trump administration they've been pushing the UN Security Council now to invoke snapback that's the snapback of international sanctions that, in addition to what the administration's doing just with the US, would completely cripple the Iranian economy more than it already is and potentially spark popular protests in the country. And we've we've seen a little bit of that already. Some of the reporting that you do,

I think sometimes can escape the general public. You know, you do a lot of in depth reporting on what's going on to state in Polman was going on with the Iranian nuclear deal and someone and so forth. But you know, just going through a litany of your arsicles over the course of the last couple of days, out of my notes is that there are things that are just not talked about outside of experts on the matter, like you, For instance, you had the think Iran cult

smuggling new materials out of the US. What what what was that? What's going on there? Yeah, So this is something that happened between around two thousand and eight and twenty thirteen. Uranian agent Uranian nationals I would call them what they are, spies, members of their intelligence service actually

were involved in a plot to smuggle outcarbon ciber. Now that doesn't sound so serious, but it is a controlled substance and regulated precisely because it can be used to enriched uranium, which we all know the raniums love to do. They've blown past caps on the restrictions on the amount of moderately to highly enriched uranium making stockpile in the country, and all of these efforts are towards that, going towards that end of enriching uranium to weapons grade purity. So

these three individ jewels. Actually we're found during the time the Obama administration was on the international stage negotiating this deal that Donald Trump removed the US from these Irradian spies, we're running around trying to export it. Adam, Adam, hang on the line. We've got to jump to a quick break. Hang on the line. We're gonna come back to you after the quick break and we can finish on this. This is the Buck Sexton Show. Welcome back is the

Buck Sexton Show. It's Thursday, the eighteenth of July twenty nineteen, and a whole lot going on today, and a whole lot I'm sure we'll continued to go on. It doesn't seem like there's any less of the news lately, and the breaking news out of the Middle East at the moment is the US is claiming to have shot down an Iranian drone. We've got Adam Creedo, senior writer at the Washington Freebeacon, who's stuck with us on the line. Very kindly, Adam, thank you so much, my pleasure. I

did some level grinding and final fan if you will. Adam, a man after my own heart, likes likes the likes a video game or two. Adam, we'll we'll talk about that more offline, because I have recently been taking to World War Z or World War Z as you guys. Yeah, there's no there's nothing better than watching sort of fifty thousand zombies charging at you and you're trying to figure out how to stop. But that's good, and you know

that's a great analogy for the Iranian proper. Adam, you were talking to us before about this um more serious issue than video games, which is IRN smuggling nuclear materials out of the US. But I just want to reiterate for the audience here, what do you think when something like this happens. Now you've now you've had the drone on the US side done, You've also had a retaliator reaction from the US in terms of destroying some of the cyber commanding control in Iran over the last couple

of weeks. And now you're seeing this as well, the US actually taking action themselves to remove Iranian hardware from the skies. For somebody like you who's been in this business for a very long time and can kind of to some extent predict what happens next, what happens next, yeah, I'm very cautious about saying there's going to be a war. I know that people like to use that rhetoric, particularly the old Obama era officials who formed that nuclear deal.

They say that every heavy of sanctions, every salvo the Trump administration makes marches us closer to war. I don't think that's true. I don't. I don't believe that rhetoric. In fact, I think that they forward that rhetoric for lack of a better argument about staying in the deal, and the deal should have remained. That it's a distraction in a lot of ways. But yeah, look, we are marching closer to this coming to a head. How that happens,

I'm not sure. Could it be through diplomacy most likely, I would think, Could it be renegotiating the deal, I'm not sure at this point. I don't think the Irani are open to it, and they certainly at this point still has a willing partner in the Europeans, who have upheld their commitments under the deal in terms of rolling back sanctions, giving them money and of their cash windfall. So it truly is hard and I'm very sorry about that, by the way. Yeah, and you know, yeah, I do

blame you. I would also say this was a footnote again, something nobody really paid attention to. But I look at these things that these States departments just sanctioned again today networks and affiliates tied to Iran's weapons of mass destruction programs. So let us not forget that they do continue to

march towards nuclear weapons. They want to know how, and the restrictions on their uranium enrichment and work at this ford outside I mentioned and other military bunkers has actually continued unembedded, and that I don't if itself, really reveals what a sham this deal is. But now you see this Obama echo chamber, and surprisingly they're Republican allies, these libertarians like Rand Paul, who I think they're trying to

tie the President's hands. I don't think they'll win. I think he understands what they're up to, and I should actually have some news about that tomorrow. Wow. Well, Adam, tell the audience where they can read more of your news and follow you absolutely Freebeacon dot com and my Twitter credo and the number zero follow me on there at yeah k R E D zero. Adam, thank you for joining us here on the bucks. I appreciate have a good one on Final Fantasy or whatever video game

you've decided to take. Take a load off with this evening. This is the buck sext to share the fanlines. Tore open eight four four nine two eight two five eight four four nine hundred buck. My name is Rahim because I'm filling in here in the Freedom Hunts in Washington, DC, and I'm I'm looking out the windows here downtown Washington, DC, and I honestly true to form, I'm going to talk

about the weather again. I'm hoping that when I leave here it is lightly cooler, because it was absolutely roasting earlier on in the day. I want to pivot now to another foreign affairs issue. And it's another foreign affairs issue I know is close to a lot of the hearts of this audience at least, but brings me on to talk about it from time to time. It's Brexit, and you'd probably have thought in your mind, or at

least I hope you have over the past couple of hours. Hey, we've got this British guy on here who used to work for Nigel Farage. Why isn't he telling us what's going on with Brexit? Well, the truth of the matter is I have lived and worked the last couple of years here in Washington, DC, and I have my theories, and I have my sources and so on and so forth.

But there are people with their figure on the pulse far more than I in terms of what's going on on the ground with Brexit and the Brexit Party and how close Britain is to leaving the European Union, getting outcasting off the shackles of globalism and the European Union's imperialism. And one of those people, funnily enough, is from the United States. It's but actually is involved in this brand

new initiative called World for Brexit. Now. Peggy Grandy is a good friend of mine, but also has been a great personal friend and ally of one of the greatest presidents this country has ever seen. Peggy was the former personal assistant to the great Ronald Reagan, and for that we thank her and welcome her to the show. Peggy, thank you so much for joining us here. Thank you

Ryan for having me on today. Well, now, Peggy, just before we get started on World for Brexit, I want you to tell us a little bit about what you've been doing the last couple of years, because when we first met a couple of years ago, you had just released a book I believe called The President Will See You Now, Absolutely and thank you for having me on

your show back then to talk about that. And so that's been an exciting and wonderful project to see there's still such a fondness, even across both sides of the political aisle, for that great man who was an incredible leader and hiring man who in many ways let our

nation and change the world. And so a lot of what I have done has been Reagan related, but also I like to think that I'm a freedom fighter for democracy, and so wherever I see that under attack, those are usually causes that I'm likely to be found in the middle of. And you have found yourself not just in the middle of, but at the head of the World for Brexit movement founded by friends of the United Kingdom

from all around the world. The World for Brexit is a global coalition, if I'm not wrong, designed to sustain the idea that actually the people decide what they want to do, and the people decided in the United Kingdom in twenty sixteen what they wanted to do. Now what we wanted to do because I cast a vote in that very election and we wanted to leave. But Peggy,

we still have not left the European Union. Tell us a little bit about what you know about that and about World for Brexit and what you guys are going to be doing here over the next couple of weeks. Well, we're so decided to announce the launch of World for Brexit just this week, And like you said, it's a global coalition of friends of the UK who want to reinforce the idea that votes do count, democracy matters, and that the UK is entitled to free and independent self governance.

And as you know, in twenty sixteen, seventeen point four million people, including yourself, nearly fifty two percent of the UK voted for Brexit to leave the European Union, and three years later that still hasn't happened. And in fact, recent polling, as you may know in the UK, shows that now fifty seven percent of those in the UK want to see Brexit fully implemented, and that hasn't happened yet.

And so we want to stand as a group coming alongside Friends of Brexit and supporting their right to self determination and governance. And we believe it's best for them and best for the world. Well, I thank you for as a British citizen for doing that. I also want to get into this look when Reagan was around in office, and you'll appreciate my reverence for that man as well.

I just recently revived his favorite newspaper, Human Events. He had the benefit of having a very strong prime minister working alongside him in the United Kingdom, Margaret Thatcher, and of course you had Pope John Paul the Second as well.

Now the problem we have is that we have Pope Francis, and for the last couple of years under President Trump, we've had Theresa May, and we're about to have Boris Johnson in the United Kingdom, who is basically a David Cameron redux, who is basically a Theresa May, but with a bit of a bigger belly and a floppier haircut. And nothing really seems to be changing in that regard.

But the polling in the United Kingdom shows that actually the British public may be willing to undertake a very Trumpian revolution of their own electorally, not just referendum ly, in the form of delivering seats for the Brexit Party, the new party led by Nigel Farage in the United Kingdom, and some of the recent polling shows that they may actually go on to win a parliamentary majority in an upcoming general election, which really would change not just the

United Kingdom, not just Brexit in, not just the European Union, but I believe the world as well. Peggy, imagine how wonderful it would be to wake up in the morning knowing that Donald Trump is president and Nigel Farages prime Minister. Have you thought about that? I actually haven't, but that's an incredible scenario you just painted. And you know, referencing back to my former boss, Ronald Reagan, he always believed that, especially in the US, we the people tell the government

what to do, not the other way around. And I think we see that same influence happening there in the UK. We see the voters saying, we voted for those we want this, We don't care how it gets done, we just want it done. And there's this feeling that democracy should not suffer at the hands of incompetence, and that's what they see right now, and so it would not be surprising if they throw everybody else out and put into leadership those who are actually listening to the will

of the people. And there's so many parallels, of course, we see between what's happening here in the US and what's happening in the UK. The loser's consent is not required for the winner to move forward, and we see that playing out time and time again with so many entities trying to undermine the Trump presidency. And that's exactly what we're seeing in the UK as well. And the global narrative about Brexit I see is being very negative.

It portrays it solely as they're leaving something. Rather, it wasn't a vote against something. It was actually a vote for something. And I think that Nigel Farres does a wonderful job of making it a very positive statement of confidence. The vote of Brexit was a statement of strength that they believed that the UK hey was ready and able to self govern, and so they believed in themselves and in their fellow countrymen, and that's why they voted to leave.

And so we should highlight that positive narrative, not all the negativity that is currently surrounding the Brexits. I completely agree, and you know, I agree as somebody who worked him off over the last decade trying to deliver independence for my country, and a lot of Americans and some Republicans included in fact, say to me off and well, why would you want to leave the European Union. It's such a wonderful union to be a part of. It's kept

the peace in Europe. I mean, all of these nonsensical phrases and arguments that you get from there. And I often say to them, I just turned around and say to them, well, you know your country was founded on the original Brexit. You know, in seventeen seventy six, the American people decided that they did not want to be part of an imperial power where power is vested almost solely in a singular person that nobody gets to elect,

that nobody gets to remove. And of course we've seen now over the course of the last week in the European Parliament the very same thing going on. They are supposed to elect out of a group of people who is supposed to be the new European Commission President. And guess what, Peggy, over the course of the last week, we found out there were no candidates but one, and so everybody was asked to just vote on a single candidate. How do you think that went that single candidate one?

And this is what we're talking about, isn't it. This is about the lack of choice. This is the lack of people being able to decide for themselves who governs them. Now, Peggy, tell us what you're doing and what you hope to achieve with these World for Brexit events. Well, we are goals are threefold. We're wanting to educate people, and we're wanting to do media, and we're wanting to do research

and call people to action to support that. We are hosting events next week with Nigel Farage, who will be attending and speaking at these events. Although he's not an officially part of our organization, he certainly has been a champion for this issue and we'll be a big draw

and to getting people to support World for Brexit. We've got events in DC, in New York, upcoming internationally, probably in Australia and hopefully in the UK as well, and weren't hope people will go to the website sign up to receive additional information, sign up to donate and contribute to be a friend of the UK World for Brexit

dot com. You can also follow World the number four Brexit on Twitter, and we want people to be informed of what is happening there and add their voice to our friends across the Pond in support of democracy there. We would be outraged if this had happened any place house in the world, if all these millions of people had voted for something that was not implemented, we would be crying foul that it was such a breach of democracy. And yet somehow we're turning a blind eye to it.

Happened right there with our friends in the UK and World for Brexit stands to change that. Your friends, your ancestors, your cousins. We stand side by side with you, and we are so grateful that you stand side by side with us. Peggy Grandy, World for Brexit dot Com, thank you so much for joining us here on the buck Sex in the show. Thank you ray Well, ladies and gentlemen. Of course I had to. I had to get a Brexit thing in there. It's been too long.