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name is Rahem Kasam. I am filling in for Buck today, broadcasting live out of the Freedom Hut here in Washington, d C. A slushy, slimy, gross and rainy Washington, d C. A very good evening or good afternoon to all of you out there. We have a very great show for you today. Breaches on the border just just a couple of days after CNN's Jim Acosta, remember was lecturing the President of the United States in a press conference, saying

they're not jumping over the borders, they're thousands of miles away. Meanwhile, border security has nabbed six hundred and fifty migrants just two hours outside. We've seen video of people jumping over fences and being apprehended by border security. We've got a lot of things to discuss today. It's been a busy day all around the world, and I'm glad to say we have some of the best experts from around the world to talk about the new the very busy news

cycle of the day. One of the things that I've been focusing on has been Brexit. Of course, for those of you that don't know me, I was the former senior adviser to Mr Brexit himself, Nigel Farage. And because it's very late in the evening in in the United Kingdom and so much has been going on there, we're going to start the show on that. I know breaks. It means a lot to a lot of you guys

out there here in the United States as well. I know you all know what happened on that June two thousand and sixteen, just a few months before you elected President Trump as the outsider candidate, we did something quite outlandish too, which was voting to leave. Seventeen and a half million people, the largest ever showing for one side in a national election, voted to leave the European Union. We said, we've had enough of the bureaucrats, of the commissioners,

of the lack of democracy. We've had enough of paying billions upon billions of our finest English pounds into the coffers of an organization that wants its own military force. Now that tells us what of our primary legislation and

our regulations look like. Does it sound familiar to you, ladies and gentlemen, Does in it sound just like what Hillary Clinton was talking about a few years ago when she called the Trans Pacific Partnership Deal and the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership Deal, replete with its commissioners and unaccountable civil servants. She called it the gold standard of

trade deals. Well, i'll tell you what, Thank goodness, President Trump won, because you'd be entering your own sort of European Union style trade organization right now, just at the moment that we're trying to get out. But what happened in the UK today was quite extraordinary, one of the most critical things to happen since that June three vote. The Prime Minister a remainder somebody who wanted us to

stay in the European Union. She announced the deal that she had done with the EU today and it is no such thing like leaving. Let me tell you, the United Kingdom would remain under the European Court of Justice. Per view, we'd end up paying forty billion pounds into their pot. Again, we'd have no control over our borders,

we'd have no control over our trade deals. That that thing that President Trump said, Remember he said after Obama said Britain will go to the back of the queue for a trade deal, he said, no, Britain will go to the front of the queue for a trade deal. The front of the line for a trade deal. And that's off the table. Under this deal proposed by Theresa May, the Prime Minister, that would no longer happen because we'd still be within the confines of the euse laws of

the e use trade agreements. And it's unacceptable. It's so unacceptable that today you had five cabinet ministers resigned in one day. Can you imagine if five cabinet ministers resigned from President Trump's cabinet in one day. I mean, jimber Costa would be running around White House, or rather outside the White House, running around like a headless chicken, saying this president must go, This president no longer has the

confidence of his own government, his own administration. Well, in a sense that's true of Theresa May, but she indicated this afternoon that she has no intention to go. Instead, she intends to continue on with this horrific deal that she struck with the European Union. I want to check if we've got our first guest on the line. We're waiting for a good a good friend of mine. He's going to be joining us, hopefully in the next few minutes.

His name is Ben Harris Quinney. He's the chairman of the oldest conservative think tank in the United Kingdom, and he's just finished speaking at Oxford University, where he had taken over a slot for Graham Brady. Now let me tell you about Graham Brady. And I understand this sounds like sort of insular foreign politics to you guys, but we share the same thing right now in our sort of rebellious ah takeovers of the establishment, the drainings of

the swamps across the Atlantic. I'll tell you why this guy, Graham Brady is important. He's a member of Parliament. And if the Conservative Party, which is the party of government in the UK, if they want to lose Theresa May as Prime Minister, which I suggest they should, then Graham Brady is the one they have to write to. He's

the head of the two Committee. And if he gets forty eight letters, let's say we want her gone from forty eight Conservative members of Parliament, then there has to be a vote of no confidence as the Prime Minister, and the rumor is that they're awfully close to getting there. So you know, the UK on tenter hooks at the moment,

not really knowing where it's going. The markets obviously responding in kind, uh, the pound dropping, stocks dropping, and all because our rubbish, rubbish prime minister, who shouldn't have even been there in the first place, because Exit one and the Conservative Party put a remainder, a non lever into number ten Downing Street. This is all on her. So there, there we have it. We're waiting for our first guest, but in the meantime we'll also be will also be

taking some of your calls over the course of this program. Um, I want to make sure that you guys are getting your views across on all sorts of things that we're going to be discussing. Today. We're going to be speaking with Eric Metaxes, the author of a brand new book, Donald Drains the Swamp. He'll be joining us a little

bit later in this hour. Jessica Vaughan from the Center of Immigration Studies were joining us to talk about this migrant caravan that we were told it was not a thing, was not going to happen, that they that they were not in fact, in fact, why don't we can we can we play that clip of Jim Acosta from a couple of days ago, clip number three campaign had But your campaign had an ad showing migrants climbing over walls and so on. But they weren't actor not going to

be doing they weren't actors. Well, no, it's true. Do you think they were actors. They weren't actives, They didn't come from Hollywood, but these were these were people. This was an actual you know, it happened a few days ago, and they're hundreds of miles away. Though they're hundreds and hundreds of miles not animation. Honestly, I think you should let me run the country. It's not gonna happen. They're

not going to be doing that. The words of CNN Jim Acosta, who I suppose presumed he had some sort of premonition. Did it come to him in a dream, The migrants were not going to be climbing over the border. We've seen it going on. We saw the footage come out yesterday. Oh and don't think I don't think just because we're focused on the news cycle of the moment that we're going to forget about what came out last night, right,

did you will pay attention? We all looking at your cellular devices when the breaking news came out that Michael Abanati, the creepy pawn lawyer, was arrested by the l a p D after the allegation that he had beat or punched his wife, Michael Abanati. And the reason I segue into Michael Abanati is because you have Jim Acosta of CNN, who's lecturing the President last week, putting his hands on

a White House intern. Now you can argue one way or the other that you know he wasn't aggressive with it, or it wasn't affirm enough gesture for you, or whatever the excuses that they're coming up with, but he put his hand on a young female intern in the White House. And on the flip side, I mean, who's who's CNN's favorite get right now, Who's CNN been pumping up for the last few months every night every show. Michael L. Abanati,

the expert in sexual harassment. He had claims about Brett Kavanagh, he had claims about Donald Trump. Meanwhile, Michael Abanati himself a man who just a few weeks ago took to Twitter to body shame of conservative female journalist Laura Looma, tweeting a picture of her that I guess he thought was less than flattering. This is the guy who CNN is held up and he was arrested last night, and we're going to find out he he maintains that he's innocent. There is a There is a hole to do about that,

lots to think about there. It just strikes me that there is so much in the way of I guess what the psychoanalysts call projection from the left right every time they point the fingers about something. And I was watching CNN today and they were laughing. They were laughing because Matt gatesdown in Florida said that the voter fraud that he believes maybe taking place down there is a sort of dress rehearsal, a warm up act for the

election cycle. And the CNN anchors and the guests slapping each other on the backs and laughing they a conspiracy theory. Remember that he's a The guys who for the last two years plus have been saying, yeah, these Russian like Facebook bots, they colluded with the Trump Tower folks, and they forced Americans to the ballot box with a I don't know collashnik after the head and forced them to vote for Donald Trump for president. About evidence, there's been

no collusion evidence, there's been nothing. This investigation that's gone on for what two years and cost I don't know, forty million dollars. I think I saw the Mueller probe, which Trump took to Twitter again to lambast today. But these guys will laugh at Matt Gates for saying, hold on a second. How come Broward County and Palm Beach County take a week plus to count their votes? How

come we're going to hand recounts? Now? This is the stuff that doesn't even happen in third world countries, in in in in places where you still dip your finger in ink to vote. There are places around the world that haven't had the democratic process for very long, and this stuff doesn't happen there. But it happens in democratic controlled districts. Really quite a lot, doesn't it. We're gonna be talking to Eric Eager's he's the author of a

new book called Fraud. They'll be joining us a little bit later as well, I'm pleased to say that will also be joined by two of One American News, one of the better cable news channels out there, two of their folks. Later on in the show, Charles Herring is the president of the organization. We're gonna talk to him about how One America is the only news outlet at the moment that is in opposition to CNN in its case against the White House, the Jim Acosta is hard

pass being revoked and Jim Acosta being banned. Even Fox News, which I like. I have friends who have Fox News hosts and anchors, lots of them in fact, but even Fox News I think, are taking Jim Acosta side and all of this. And we'll also talk to Gabrielle Ccilla. She's been down in Florida for O a n and she's going to tell us what what she's seen over the last couple of the last couple of well the

last week there. In the meantime, this is Raheem Kassam on The Buck Sexton Show broadcasting Life from the Freedom Hut. I think we're gonna take a quick break now and hopefully when we come back, we'll have Ben Harris Quinny who is uh the chairman of the Bow Group, the UK's oldest conservative thing tanket tell us a little bit more about what's going with that with that Breakxit vote, But stay tuned right here to the Buck Sexton Show. Will be right back in the midst of all the

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ball now, basically from day one. I don't think the President wants to sit across the conference room table from me and answer questions under earth. But if he does, perhaps we can do it this afternoon. You are something of a folk hero. Now we wait until we actually accomplished something in the coming months. Welcome back to the Freedom Heart. This is the Buck Sexton Show. I'm rahim

because I'm fulling in for Buck Sexton. This cold, icy, slushy, snowy Thursday evening here in Washington, d C. That was I suppose the Michael Abanati super cut A folk hero, said Bill Maher. That was Bill Maher's voice. I think a folk hero. Michael Labanati, the attorney the porn star Stormy Daniels, and, as NBC News describes him, one of President Donald Trump's chief antagonists, arrested on suspicion of felony domestic abuse. The l A p D. I believe confirmed

in a tweet yesterday evening. This is the person who's been held up for us, for to us for a very long time. Now, Remember Michael Labanati was beyond reproach. He said, which women we had to believe? So we had to believe those women. Well, you know what I think. I think that I am going to start believing all women. Now I'm going to start with Michael Abanati's wife. That's where we should start. Now, let's let's give him the benefit of that. Let's give his argument the benefit of

the doubt. Right now, our side, my side, I'm a conservative. We believe in due process. Michael Lavanati doesn't believe in due process. He's made it very clear the Brett Havana shouldn't have been in the Supreme Court because they were unfounded accusations and allegations against him, no due process, very little evidence. I don't think there was even any evidence

barring the cure curious testimony of a childlike professor. But now suddenly suddenly Avanatis saying no, no, no, you know, we'll wait for this process to you know, play out. I'll prove my innocence. No no, no, no no. You

didn't want due process. You don't get due process. Remember, Michael Evnati is somebody who, for the last few weeks, maybe a little bit longer, has not just been flirting with running for president against Donald Trump in he's been outright making out with it and groping it on the dance floor. This is not a mild flirtation with his

wish to be the president of the United States. He has gone full pelt, telling people on whether I think it was TMZ a politic on this big political conference out in California, telling them that that's what he wanted to do. And well, I have to say, to the credit of the Democrats, they haven't really um warm to him in that regard. Um A lot of people out there were saying, yeah, you know, have nat He's got a good chance of an as he can fundraise, have an artie can beat them in the forty six person

primary that they're probably gonna have next year. Well, well, look what's happening now. Arrested Wednesday on suspicion of domestic violence. We will see how it plays out, lady and gentlemen, And we do believe in due process. But isn't it funny? The projection from the left continues. This is the buck Sexton Show. I'm Raheem Kassam. We'll be right back. Welcome back to the buck Sexton Show. This is Raheem Kassam

filling in for Buck Sexton. Hearing a grotesque Washington, d C. And more more grotesque than usual, is what I mean? Heavy snow, say heavy, a lot of snow overnight. I'm upsetting. I'm English. I'm obsessed with the weather. You're gonna have to forgive me. I used to do this all the time when I hosted another another radio show. Just ended up talking about the weather for the first games. It's in our blood for some reason. When English but starts talking,

it's one of the first things he does. It starts talking about the weather. The lines here are open, by the way, Ladies and gentlemen, it's eight four four nine hundred buck. That's eight four four, nine hundred to eight to five. I want to hear from as many of you out there as possible today, if you've got to take on the things we've already discussed in this hour. It's obviously Michael Labanati. We've touched on the migrant caravans

and Jim Acosta. We've been talking a little bit about Brexit and what happened in the United Kingdom today, but there's massive resignations from Theresa May's cabinet right now. I want to welcome a special guest. Erica Taxes is New York Times best selling author radio host himself, in fact interviewed me on The Eric My Taxes Show last year, and now the show's on the other foot. Eric, Welcome to the show. Yes I did, and thank you for

having me. I I'd like to talk about something very happy, because all those other things there's a fan an undercurrent of unpleasantness to some of the news, as you know. Uh and uh. The reason of course I'm on the program is to talk about my happy new children's book, Donald Drains the Swamp, Donald Drains the Swamp. May refer to a certain Donald, and the swamp certainly refers to the horrible DC swamp to which you were earlier referring. But it's a happy book because Donald in fact does

train the swamp. And it's uh, it's mainly for kids, but actually I can't even say that mostly adults are buying it because there's a lot of adult humor in it. It's a children's book, but there's enough humor for adults that they're finding it worth getting. Yeah, you don't mean adult humor is in that it's not suitable for kids, but you mean that it's it's sort of like one of those animations right where where you know it's it's good for both audiences. I've got I've got my copy

at home. When I when I say a humor, what I mean is that when you see the biggest swamp creature of all is a dinosaur called the george osauros. And that's not the kind of thing that little kids are gonna get. They're just gonna see a big, nasty swamp creature called the Georgia saurus. But of course we understand that it's a hungarian dinosaur has billions of dollars and worships the devil. Other than that, it's perfectly right

for kids. No, but it's kind of a funny thing because there's a lot of that stuff the swamp creatures resemble. One of them has half classes and cries a lot. Maybe he's a senator from New York type dinosaur. I don't know. Uh, there's all it's a bipartisan swamp raheem so. Uh. There's also a turtle, and as we know, just because of the unders of nature, most turtles, whether they need to or don't, end up looking somewhat like the Senate

majority leaders. Things like that are in the book, but you just have to be an adult to appreciate them. But on a kid's level, kids love the book because it's a story about a caveman named Donald who drains the swamp and who restores freedom, or who rather, who brings freedom to these people who had been governed by a bloated bureaucracy and a king who's decidedly out of touch with things. Now it's it looks it seems perfectly

time to me. Of course, a lot of these things are intentionally done so, but you know, Christmas is coming up and it's a you know, I would say one of those great one of those great stocking fellows. H. It's certainly certainly bring brought a smile to my face when I got my got my copy uh the other week from our kind colleagues at regularly Publishing. Um. But

but let me ask you this. There are a lot of and and stocks to that, you know, right up to the gunnals um left wing children's books out there. You know that are that are placed in schools, in libraries that are designed to sort of indoctrinate or designed that This is a big thing for me. I've written thirty children's books. People don't know this. They think of me as a radio host or is the author of bon Hoffer or Luther or something books. I've written thirty

kids books. I was a writer for Veggie Tales. I've written a ton of humor. I was the editor of the Yale Humor magazine back when I was in college. And so I think that our side, which is to say, the conservatives rarely create cultural objects. We talk a lot, specifically about politics or maybe theology, but to create cultural objects usually a left is what does that? And right now you have the spate of nasty left wing anti Trump books masquerading as children's books. They are. In fact,

it's nasty. You wouldn't give them to a kid. This is a real book. It's obviously pro Trump, but it's innocent, it's not nasty. Uh. And so so it really is intended for for kids. And at the end of the story, uh, they learn about self government because they want to make Donald the king the new king after the king chases the money out of the swamp to the horizon once they've drained the swamp, and say, maybe you'd be our new king, And just like George Washington, he says, no, no, no,

He says, you are a free people. Now, a king tells people what to do. But if free people tell us their leaders what to do, and the leaders must do it. And they say, oh, you mean like a president and he says yes. And if that's what you're looking for, I'm your caveman. So we've got these uh buttons printed up that say he's my caveman. It's sort of a fun way of owning the caveman quality of

our commander in chief. He gets things done. He knows how to how to build a wall, he knows how to drain a swamp, dig a trench that's bigger and better than any trench ever been dug, and he really he us know how to get things done. And it's, um, you know, the antithesis of Obama, who seemed to dither and wring his hands in a Hamlet like fashion and really not confront evil or do anything that that needed doing and sort of said, we can we can talk

about it forever. Well, thank the Lord, he didn't talk about it forever. He was voted out and we have a president he's actually taking some action. So this is a way of celebrating that. But I do think it's it's fun enough that you could even give it as a as a gag gift to somebody who doesn't like Trump, unless they're really really nasty. They will definitely laugh. I mean, everybody says that they're finding it funny. There's a lot

of slight humor. There's there's a bird of blue bird that that flits in and out looks a little bit like a twitter bird. So there's a lot of subtle jokes for adults throughout. Yeah, no, I have I have my copy, and I thought it was, um, it was very humorous. I haven't. I haven't gone through all of it and studied it and studied the drawings, indeed, held to figure out who every single character is. That's the key. In fact, the the orange creature. Uh, there's an orange

creature in there. And the illustrator told a friend of mine, didn't even tell me. This is my dear friend. The illustrator told another friend that the orange Triceratops is meant to be John Brennan. So what can I tell you? I don't know what if people will discover other things. But yeah, there's all these nasty swamp creatures, and of course they don't want to leave the swamp because the swamp is made of money. Why would they leave? So there's nothing to do except drain the swamp, and Donald

shows the kind of leadership to get it done. It's uh, as I say, it's a it's a happy book. We're actually building a Donald the Caveman plush so people can get a plush dolluh. And also Mike Lindell of My Pillow is creating a Donald the Caveman pillow. Donald drains the swamp. So it's so this is not going away anytime soon. Well, I gotta tell yeah, I did not ever get a free my pillow, and I've never been paid to advertise my pillows. But I gotta tell you,

Mike Lindell changed my life. F y, I I don't know those things that those things are awesome. You're You're James Mike Lindell personally. I You've got Tim Tim Raglan as an illustrator on this book. Award winning illustrator has done many He's brilliant. I mean, look, I knew he had to do it. He and I've done many books together. But he's the one that convinced me to take a serious look at Trump back in the in the early primaries, when I was not sold on Trump. He's the one

that insists. He says, this guy's a folk hero. You need to to to watch him at these rallies, and I finally understood. He's like a tall tale figure. He's a folk hero. Donald Trump is a larger than life folk hero for such a time as this in America, and so this book is meant to celebrate that aspect of him. That's why he's a caveman. Of course, everybody in the book is either a caveman or a dinosaur. But He really is kind of like a larger than life, get it done folk hero, and I think that's why

he's so beloved and so hated on the other side. Absolutely, Eric Metaxas, the author of Donald Drain's The Swamp, I am very I'm very pleased that this occurs, because, like you said, you know, we can often on our side, you know, just focus on the back, just focus on the negative, just focus on the politics. And actually culturally we get beat around the head all over the shop, whether it's in you know, Hollywood or in Manhattan. Bookstores packed to the gunnals, full of full of left wing stuff.

So people go into a bookstore, good luck finding this book. I hope you'll ask the manager do you have a copy? And if not, why don't you? It's been in the Amazon top one hundred. Uh, it continues to do well. You know, I'm gonna be doing TV. They don't have it. It's an astounding thing, obviously because there's biased So I think people need to say to bar the noble managers and so on, but you need, you need to have

this in the store. I would have bought five copies, and you know, at at the price they're charging people are buying five copies, you know, for Christmas or for the grandkids whatever. And so it's scandalous to me that we live in a day and age when vast stores like Barnes and Noble don't carry the book. I mean, obviously half of the country loves this president and would

be interested in that. Yeah, it was, it was, Eric was exactly the same thing when my book came out in seventeen No go zones, um and and people were asking me, you know, I've looked in my bookstore. I can't get it. They said they can order it in but that'll take two weeks. So a lot of people ended up ordering it on Amazon, which, of course you

can get Donald Drains the Swamp on Amazon. But and then, on the other hand, a lot of people don't want to shop at Amazon for obvious reasons, right right, Well, better better to buy this at Amazon than to let Stephen Colbert's book the number one forever. That's my theory. I agree with that, Eric Metaxas, thanks for taking the time out this evening to bring a little bit of joy to us. As you say, it can get a

little bit draining and serious. So I'm really glad you've done, Donald drains the swamp and that you can bring a smile to our faces this evening. Thank you so much for rahem God bless you look forward to the next time. Thank you. That is Eric Metaxas. Make sure you pick up a copy of Donald drames This Swamp is a great Christmas present. I will be buying it for several people in my life, several who like President jop and several who don't. I am rahemasm. This is the Buck

Sexton Show. On Thursday of November, the snow is hit the East coast and caused all sorts of misery and problems. But I hear the sun is coming back out tomorrow. The phone lines are open here for you guys. It's eight four four d buck. That's eight four eight to five. So why don't you give me a jingle here in

the Freedom Hut keep me company this evening. We can talk, obviously, talk about Michael Abernati, obviously talk about Jim Accosta and his big claim that the migrants were not jumping the borders, and they actually are. We've got video of it and it's online right now. It's been shown on new sites, It's been shown all over Twitter over the course of today. And UM, I also want to talk to you a little bit, and I'll introde this a little bit right now and do a little bit more in the next

segment after the next break. But I had a an article that I wrote in the Daily Caller yesterday. UM. The headline of it was Trump understands the important difference between nationalism and globalism and and it went pretty pretty dawn viral over the course of the last twenty four hours.

And I think the reason it did there's not just because President Emmanuel Macron of France chose a somber ceremony of the Armistice commemorations to attack President Trump into attack nationalism, but also because a lot of people don't quite understand the concept, or they understand it at a farcical ethno white nationalist, racist, xenophobe, homophoe, herb is lamophobe, I'm quite Hillary Clinton now, UM, at that level, they don't actually

know the history or philosophy of nationalism, and they certainly don't know that it was actually globalism, or rather it's root philosophy of imperialism that was really to blame for the Great Wars of the twentie century. So yes, back to serious topics. We'll do more of it after this break. Is the buck Sexton Show. Him will be right back.

Welcome back to the buck Sexton Show. This is Raheim because I'm filling in for the great Bucks Sexton here from the Freedom Heart and Washington, d C. Florida's Senate Counts is heading to a hand recount. Gosh, what is in the water down there in Broward County? Let me ask you that I want to take some more calls, so I get on the line eight four four to five four Buck. I think we have Skippy and Boston on the line. I want to bring Skippy in Boston and if if we can connect there. Hey, Skibby, how

you doing? How are you reading? I hope you comment about distrabanities statement after I don't know he was. It was just out from being availed or what, and it was amazing, went he satellites, I'm going to be brief, and to Saint. When you were brief, you were already be at the Saint for you repetitious. But but when he said the statement, my my, you know, the alarm clock went out of my head when I heard him say I've never hit a woman. I will never hit

a woman. I just women. Twenty four hours ago, there was multiple reports when he was being arrested. There was reports of them shouting, but she hit me first. Therefore, if she hit me first, that has to me he had a second, which kills his statement of I have never had a woman. Well, that's right, I mean the and we have to obviously be fair and careful with this.

The allegations are still allegations, but the witness reports suggested that at the time he had said something along the lines of she hit me first, and then as you're right to say, skippy. His his statement says, uh, I have never struck a woman. I will never strike a woman. I have been an advocate for women's rights my entire career, and I'm going to continue to be an advocate. Now, something apart from that, skibby, something strange strikes me about

that attitude. A couple of weeks ago, I don't know if you know this, conservative journalist Laura looma independent investigative journalist, um he tweeted Michael Abernardi tweeted a very unflattering picture of her, and the intent of that picture was obviously to I suppose what the left would call body shame her right, make make fun of her appearance. Um so, so, firstly, that doesn't sound like particularly like being an advocate to me. It also doesn't seem like you're much of an advocate

for women's rights. And you tell me if I'm wrong or right on this, Skibby. If you're presenting people to the public whose allegations are so false that they end up disbelieving women in the long haul, what do you think that's right to show he was He was just moving in. He's trying to make a name from tot trying to make mostly make some money. And can I ask you something else? Who was the solid that was

up in Minnesota who just became that attorney general? He was at his wife for girlfriends and I'm talking about There's there's a lot of it going on out there, Skippy. Unfortunately, we're up against the hard break. But I thank you for your call. I will I will follow up on your question momentarily in the meantime. This is the Buck Sexton Show. I'm Rahem Kassam. We're going to be back after this break. Dozens of people gathered on the South side.

Some climbed the barrier and sat on it, Others walked the structure while Border patrol agent kept an eye on the crowd. This man dressed in red and white jumping onto US soil. That person and others who did come across US ran back when border patrol agents approached. It's not known for certain who these people are. The Border Patrol said it believes some could be from that caravan that has been making its way through Mexico from Honduras.

That's the latest situation at the border. I'm Rheim Kassam. This is the buck Sexton Show'm going to be discussing this issue now with another one of our fantastic guests from the Center for Immigration Studies. We have their director of Policy Studies, Jessica m vaughan, joining us on the line. Jessica, thank you and welcome to the buck Sexton Show. Glad

to be with you. So um, I was of the belief, Jessica, that that because I get all of my news from Jim Acosta, and and I listened to his every word and I hang on it, and everything he says is obviously true. And when he got up last week in the White House and said, these people are not at the border. They're nowhere near the thousands of my is away. And even when they are going to get to the border, they're not going to try and climb over fences. What happened.

I can't believe that Jim Acosta was wrong. Well, yeah, he was like so many in the news media, reporting without having actually seen what was going on and without any kind of um experienced nuance or you know, talking to real experts in the field. Um. Of course, the caravan was going to get here quickly. They got rides. In fact, I think some probably got here even earlier than today, the ones who peeled off and went with smugglers. And obviously they're not all peacefully seeking asylum as the

President suggested through the legal ports of entry. They're not all starving mothers and children. Uh, they are here to try to get into the United States, and the organizers are trying to make a political point for open borders. Um.

I can't say the particularly brave either. Hearing about the one who jumped down to the beach and then ran away when he's all the border patrol, I'm surprised he didn't try to claim asylum as the lawyers suggested they do, although I guess he wouldn't be successful because he was

entering illegally. But it is pretty interesting. There are many many young men, the classic kind of people who are trying to enter illegally all these years, but who have been um sharing the stage now with people coming with kids. So I mean, this isn't an adventure and an opportunity for a lot of these people. They're not fleeing persecution. If they were, they would have looked for safe haven in Mexico. They're they're here to try to get in

because they think they can get away with it. Yeah, and I must say, um, the Center for Immigration Studies on the website, you have a you have a migrant caravan uh map describing the location. Uh. You know, because you actually don't see this very much, very often on

the on the news media, especially not some certain channels. Um. And it was it was clear to me a couple of a couple of weeks ago when I started doing my own research into this and finding out just how far back this sort of trajectory and history of this sort of long term undermining of US border sovereignty, how far back it stretches, and how far back some of these halfway houses go and who they're funded by historically, it was obvious to me, and it sounds like it

was obvious to you that this was going to arrive at least a couple of hundred several hundred, um if not more, We're going to arrive very soon. It's why I actually did scratch my head a little bit last week, because Jim Acosta wasn't sort of saying this down the pub with his mates where he wouldn't be able to be held to account for making these counter factual statements. He was saying on probably the most watched clip now

in the last three or four months. I mean that that altercation in the White House is probably the number one thing that's been watched anywhere in the world. And he outright lied, And I suppose a lot of people they want to know whether it was a knowing lie or whether he's just ignorant on this. I mean, what do you think? That is a very good question. I'm not sure if he's just kidding himself or deliberately misleading

his audience for political reasons. It sure appears to me that his desire to embarrass or discredit or undermine President Trump seems to take priority or get the best of any um journalistic impulses that he may have or at least be trained in. I think that that you know that that's what he's interested in doing, you know, regardless of what the truth is, is that he's there to grandstand and to make the president or try to make the President look bad, rather than report the news or

ask a question. I wanna I wanna play for you here, Jessica, the clip from President Trum what he said, and get your reaction to that. Mr producer, Let's bay clips to please the Democrats have launched an assault on the sovereignty of our country, the security of our nation, and the

safety of every single American. The crisis on our border right now as we speak is the sole result of Democrat laws and activists Democrat judges that prevent us from returning illegal aliens from Central America and all over the world. It's called Catchen Release. Jessica Vaughan, director of Policy Studies at the Center for Immigration Studies, Is he on the

money there? Yes, he is, actually um. The the biggest problem is that there is a judge in California by the name of Judge Dolly g who has greatly restricted what the federal government can do in handling these cases of parents and kids who cross illegally, basically saying that that the that the government can never detain kids, or at least not for longer than twenty days, even if

they arrive illegally with their parents. And even the Obama administration fought this judge over this interpretation of a settlement agreement that was reached years ago on how to treat kids who arrived by themselves at the border and how to UM look out for kids who may have been trafficked into the United States. Uh. And she has basically expanded this to cover anyone under the age of a teen who arrives at the border are either with their kids or with a smuggler, or excuse me, with their

parent or with a smuggler, and that is constraining the government. UM. The original law that that UM set up the parameters for dealing with a company Miners was written by Democrats. Now, it was signed into law by President George Bush. But it is fair to call it a democratic law because they wrote it. UM. But you know, Republicans stupidly went along with it. Never imagining that we would see this flood of people arriving with their kids because traditionally people

have always come without their kids and left them behind. Well, I will, I will, I will say this. I mean, I I don't think it's necessarily that those Republicans of that time didn't foresee this. I think they didn't care. They didn't quite understand, you know, that it was an attack on on on national sovereignty and and and it escaped them and escaped them because their priorities at the time were not you know, the nation state and not

border security. And we hadn't started hearing of all the horror stories yet of of of what illegal immigration was doing uh to the United States. And I want to ask you a couple of questions, um, because I know we were limited on time here. I just wanted to

ask two questions to Jessica Vaughan. Number One, in your estimation how many have started to arrive at that Tijuana border, because you know, the Daily Mail says fifteen hundred UM, NBC says four hundred, CNN saying negative three million, UM. How what at this point? What is the what is the estimate of what's going on down there? Because because the the info seems a little bit a little bit

confused at the moment. One of my colleagues is reporting from Texas and interviewing his contacts UM in the US military and Texas law enforcement agencies, and he says, there are one thousand, seven hundred and fifty who have arrived in Tijuan uh, which is about three times the capacity of the existing migrant shelters in Tijuana. Wow. And and as a as a sort of an asside to that, what what do you foresee now happening? How do these people get uh dealt with processed? UM and and other estimates.

So there is the historical averages of how many get less in Well, the caravan in the spring, pretty much everyone who applied for asylum was allowed into the United States to present that claim and immigration court UM. A few of them were denied because of previous deportations or criminal history, but almost all of them were let in UM. And what's going to happen here is that they're going to be told to sort of take a number that they can't be allowed in to ask for asylum until

we have the capacity to process them. And that could take a very very long time because are already lots of people waiting. I mean this, this kind of slow motion caravan of asylum seekers has been going on for at least a year with hundreds of people arriving at these ports of entry. So they're gonna be um process

very slowly. There I suspect that um fewer of them will be let in than in the spring, because what we know is that only half the people who let in asking for asylum will actually fill out the asylum application form once we let them in, and half of them will not show up for their court hearings, and only ten or so will ever be found qualified for asylum. What they don't want asylum, they want to get into

the United States. And unless the Trump administration has come up with some with better ways to apply the law for asylum seekers, than most of them are going to get in, but just at a slow pace. But but that's no comfort to the communities around the country that that are going to have to absorb these people who

will basically join the illegal population. It's and speaking of which, let's just clarify something quickly, because you know, you still see a lot of people using that eleven million figure. There are eleven million illegals in the United States. Some go, okay, yeah, fine, that was a couple of years ago. Maybe there are thirteen or fourteen now. But actually somebody said to me UM a few days ago, maybe even last night, that they were of the belief that it's more like twenty

to thirty million. Where does the Center for Immigration Studies fall on this? What are your estimates? We estimate that there are about twelve million people here. UM. We used to Census Bureau data to try to ascertain that and and adjust for an under account that we know happens. We haven't been able to corroborate that the higher figures through any any other methods like UM, schools, hospitals, law enforcement,

or any other way. It's impossible to really have an accurate count because you know, it's just not gonna not not possible. But Census Bureau is pretty good at it because they send all sorts of UM staff out to encourage people to fill out the forms. Because local governments depend on accurate numbers to get certain kinds of funding from the from the federal government, so we think it's close to accurate. Twelve million is what we say. Jessica Vaughn,

the Center for Immigration Studies, Director of Policy Studies. Thank you so much for joining us here this evening on the Buck Sexton Show. Thanks for having me. They're good ladies and gentlemen. What do you think the phone lines are open? Eight four four n eight to five. I am of the belief that the number is higher, but Jessica is also a very very competent and well known and well respected expert. There was a Yale Insights study recently that put the number between I think eighteen and

twenty two million UM. But as Jessica says, there's there's census day to and there's hospital data, and there's school data. I have something to say about it. One is bad enough to maintain border security. The nation should not tolerate one illegal immigrant. My country has the same problem. The

United Kingdom has the same problem we have. We seem to have this buffer, we seem to have this general acceptance that, yeah, there's going to be a certain number of people who have broken the law, and that's fine. I suppose this is this is the mentality that our governments operate, that there is not a right and wrong, but there is not illegal or illegal, but there is some sort of acceptable gray area. I think to yourself, why why would we accept a gray area like that.

We don't accept gray areas in murder cases, or in rape cases, or in theft cases, burglaries. Yeah, that guy kind of burgled your house, but did really burgle you. Yeah, he took the TV, he left the DVD player, he left the stereos, And don't worry about it. It's a gray area. This is the Buck Sexton Show and Rhea, We're gonna go to a quick break back, hopefully more of your calls and much more eight four four to five A four four nine D Buck, We'll be right back.

Radical Democrats want to turn back the clock forward the rule of corrupt, power hungry, global less. You know what, the globuless is, right, you know what that loveless is a globulens. There's a person that wants the blog to do well, frankly, not caring about our country so much. And you know what, we can't have that. You know, they have a word. It sort of became old fashioned. It's called a nationalist. And I say, really, we're not supposed to use that word. You know what I am.

I'm a nationalist, Okay, I'm a nast us President Trump. They're speaking a couple of weeks ago now about his nationalism, a word that sent the talking heads on your televisions into a big old frenzy. I wrote a piece for The Daily Caller this week yesterday in fact, about nationalism, and about specifically why President Emmanuel Macron was mistaken in trying to use that Armistice one year anniversary commemoration to

attack President Trump. In the article, which I've just tweeted, by the way, if you want to follow me on Twitter, it's at Raheem Kasam, that's k A. S. S A M. I wrote about the resistance leader from the Second World War, General Charles de gaul, who went on to be President of France himself. He said in and I think this is a good phrase to deploy if ever you get

accosted by globalists. He said, he who does not love his mother more than his more than other mothers, and his fatherland more than other fatherlands, loves neither his mother nor his fatherland. I want to get a response to that um, and of course, the wider debate surrounding border security and sovereignty from another one of the great callers on the line, Rich is in West by God, Virginia, Richard, are you there West Virginia? Trade absolutely, Richard, take it away.

As far as I really love a President Trump, A lot of the stuff he says about the immigrants, when he's saying innocent people, there's a lot of them did generates are just were criminals, and he just believes you are to stand them back. And these country, these smaller countries are the samer and moment. They need to do something, change the way the country is being run so they can can come merge. Heaven to send them over here. It's just I just say he's attitude when it comes

to that, all kind of different things. I don't think he's doing a great too. I haven't think he's probably the best person that we ever heard. Well, isn't it? Isn't it brilliant? Actually, Richard to say to those people, hey, look, if you want that country to get better, probably the best thing is not to leave that country. How can how can these nations? How can these nations improve? How can things get better? How can economies improve? How can

innovations happen? If you don't have the manpower, the people capital to do it. If you're best and brightest are being encouraged to move to other countries. Well, what happens. This is the Buck Sexton Show. Thank you Richard for the call. We'll be right back after another break. Welcome back. This is the Buck Sexton Show. I'm Rahm because I'm filling in for Buck Sexton today, live from the Freedom Hut in a snowy and slushy Washington, d C. The lines are open. Here the phone number for you all

out there. You want to get something off your chest, Do you have a question, do you have a comment? Keep it clean? Eight four four nine hundred to eight to five. That's eight four four nine hundred Buck. We've heard from a couple of callers already across the show. I love the callers. The callers, for me are the best part of the show. No offense to the guests and myself. UM, but I'm more interested in what you

have to say than what I have to say. UM. And and you know that's that's I think the most important part of this this presidency as well here in the United States. I think the president does what he does because he's interested in in how people, ordinary hard working people who do the things that you guys do out there every day, how they want the country. I've got a great guest lined up for you for this segment as well, Eric Eggers. He is a he's a

researcher and author from the Government Accountability Institute. He's the author of a new book called Fraud. And you might know the Government Accountability instu g I and and Eric because of the Clinton Cash book, an investigation from just before the election. So I really wanted to have Eric on this evening. I'm glad he could join us um to discuss this new book, the subtitle of which is

How the Left Plans to steal the next election. And we've touched so far in the first hour or so on voter fraud, on what's going on in Florida, and President Trump channeling the views of ordinary people and saying, well, hold on a second, how does it take a week class to count these ballots? Where are these ballot boxes disappearing?

To again, in any other part of life, if this were to happen, we wouldn't tolerate it, and we certainly I don't think should be tolerating it when it comes to something as sacrosanct as people's votes, as how you decide who governs a nation, who governs a state, even if it were the election of a dog catcher, we

shouldn't tolerate something like this. And Matt Gates came out today and said, well, actually this is a warm up act for the Democrat Party of America who planned to steal the election by doing things like they're doing in Broward County. I want to bring on Eric AGA's now to talk about this. Eric. Good, good evening to you. Hey, thanks for him. It's great to be here. But if if it'd be more interesting to you, I could just see Eric from Tawahassee that has an opinion about voter

part that would be more interesting to me. Eric. Um. Speaking of speaking, I mean, I'm obsessed with weather. It's just it's in my blood. Um. I bet it's not snowing and slushy down in Tallahassee. It's not, man, but it's cold. It's incommonly cold here in North Florida. So um, it's we literally just turned the heat on today for the first time. Get you get cold when it hit

seventy Listen, listen. I will not stand for that, especially you know from somebody up in d C. Listen in North Florida, we have a hearty stock and uh it's at least in the forties now it's cold. So but yeah, it's said, but but things are heating up as it relates to uh, you know that the things that are happening from an election standpoint, obviously, Florida's bien. Hey, yeah, I worked in radio for a little bit, so it's

been it's been obviously a very contentious time. But um, you know, I think we've just completed the machine recounts here and so actually just and you may have covered this already, but Ron the Antist has declared victory again and sort of they been declared the winner maintained in a thirty three thousand vote margin. Rick Scott and Bill Nelson will head into a manual recount because they're still separated by the left and the point to five percent

threshold which triggers the manual recounts under Florida law. But it's it's a great point you make, Raheem about the things that Donald Trump has said. You know, he was criticized because of his tweet about people or or I guess somebody quoted him saying that people go and vote and then and then they change clothes and then to come back and vote again. And I don't have any evidence of that atarily don't have any stories like that in my book. But but what I do think is true.

And I heard this great analysis about Donald Trump and they said, look, people on the left take him literally but not seriously, and people on the right take him seriously but not literally. And so yeah, while he literally may not be correct, uh, he could not be more

serious in terms of the issue he raises. I mean, the reality is, and this is one of the things I talked about in the book, is that American elections, and especially Florida's elections are about as prone to be able to ward off attack as the US men's national soccer team was today. Right, So that is to say, not Ferry, remind me of what happened in the soccer today, Eric, i'd I'd rather not talk about a raheem three three nothing to England, I believe. So, so we know, I mean,

we know as poor US as your borders. We we know in that illegal ballots were part of the Florida vote house because Brenda Snipes the Broward County Supervisor elections couldn't keep the illegal ballots separate from the legal ballot, they got blended together, and then rather than exclude all of them, which wouldn't been a disinfranched mind of a large number of legal votes, they just decided to include

some illegal votes as well. But to Donald Trump's point, there were a hundred and eight ballots in Miami Dade County that were rejected because they were double vote. That is to say, they were they were ballots the second ballot cast by someone in that election cycle. Whether that means they cast in aptinute ballot and then try to show up and vote in person, or they voted in one precinct and try to go up and show and

voted a different precinct, or whatever it was. You know, we don't have evidence of the wardrobe change, but we do know that double voting attempts happened in my inmitate this cycle. In my book, I talked about the fact that they were overs of double votes in the state of Florida alone in sixteen, which is more than four

times the margin of victory of a presidential election this century. So, you know, I think that there's no doubt that illegal voting does occur, and we've seen it firsthand, and so you know, I think if people people always often ask me, well, what does it what does it mean? What's the solution

moving forward? I think the good news is that we have a president that actually will speak about it and will raise the issue, because I think one one takeaway from me from this entire process is when you've got lawyers involved, and you've got eyes on the ballot and eyes on the ground, you see how many different instances

of shenanigans are are happening. I mean, lawyers for Bill Nelson and Andrew Gillham were on the record objecting to the exclusion or removal of non citizen votes, which are illegal. But yet here are the Democrats say no, those should count. So I mean, I think it's good that we see the reality of what happens in elections laid bare for all to see through this process. Whisping with Eric Eggers from the Government Accountability Institute. He's gotten book that came

out this summer. It's called Fraud, How the Left plans to steal the next election. I commended to you all, um, Eric, in terms of what what Matt Gates said today about about this being sort of a warm up Act for the Democratic Party. And I was watching CNN earlier today because I kind of hate myself, so I like to I like the self flagellation and torture of having watching the soccer match. Well there you go. Um No, I couldn't. I couldn't revel in the victor in English victory today

I was. I was had my eyes fixated on that and and and the Brexit stuff happening in the UK as well. Um. But they were laughing at Matt Gates on CNN. They were saying, you know, conspiracy theory, this doesn't happen. There's no problem certainly poo pooing the idea that any form of lawsuit against you know, from one side or the other weren't sort of opportunistic and taking their chances and influencing the the end result. But let's

face it, that is where we are now. So so so, how much do you think that Matt Gates was right the Democrats are seeing what they can get away with or if they always just been this way? Yeah, I don't know that this is unique. Maybe there If there's anything that's unique here, it's the motivation level and this belief in the self righteous belief by people on the

left of the moral authority by which they're operating. I mean, heading into this election season, you know, nothing less than the impeachment of the president and the for the Kavanaugh hearings were concluded this idea that hey, we're gonna block this Supreme Court justice from being confirmed. Uh, you know, We're gonna expand healthcare for all, We're gonna abolish ice, we're gonna abolish enforcement of immigration laws. So these are all things that are that are not just political positions

but moral impediment. Uh. You know, So I think, you know, I think it's important to think through the motivation level. So if the people believe this strongly and what they're trying to make happen, then I think exploiting the very real vulnerabilities in American election systems doesn't seem like a stretch. You know. The larger point I try to make about the incompetence that we've seen in Barrower County, in Palmish Counting,

and that's the word I use. You know, Representative Gates I think has speculated as to the legitimacy of the eight three thousand ballants and Barrower County that have materialized. I've spoken to election experts to say and listen, that's just how they're doing it. It's not fraud, it's just incompetence.

But to me that the point is this, if they're this bad at keeping track of and holding and then performing a sophisticated mathematical technique known as counting, how bad do you think they are at preventing the illegal votes from being cast? Especially when you consider Brenda Snipe's track record of admitting that she's allowed illegal immigrants and felons to vote. And by the way, this is the key point where team that she's admitted in previous court cases

that it's it. It's almost impossible to prevent because these voter registration drives, especially ahead of these big elections, You've got so many people being registered to vote, and the systems just aren't in place to prevent or to to perform the level of accuracy and verification to make sure that people that are registering to vote are the people that are actually voting. So the sneering dismissiveness by the elite media of people like Matt Gates, I think it's

important to know this. They think they're right because they've been told by groups like the Brennan Center and these paid and bought for legal entities the affiliated with George Soros, who define voter fraud in the narrowest possible terms. They define it only in the underinclusive way of an active impersonation by an illegal voter on behalf of a legal voter. When I think the reality is that most people wuld say anything that devalues the true way to an honest vote.

That's voter fraud. And a lot of stuff like that happens, and the worst part of it is is legal. So so I do think that the representive gates is correct to foreshadow what's happening. And that's one of the reasons why I wrote the book, and I think, unfortunately it's one of the reasons why the books doing as well. It is because what happened the last week and a half, I said, oh, this is actually a real thing and this can happen. Um. Eric Igor is the author of Fraud.

How the left plans till the next lection? Just final question for you before we let you go. How how come the Voter Fraud Commission, I mean, just what happened to that that seemed like such a good idea and it just lost its legs. And I know Chris Kobat was running for for you know, his own seats. But but it seems like the administration got bullied out of of of doing that. But that's a that's a great

word to use, bullied, because they absolutely did. I mean, there are several issues, one of which was the laws that they're written, I think prevented true that it prevented the commission from doing the job set up the deal. I mean, you look no further than the fact that Chris Kobak, the Secretary of State of Kansas, was legally prohibited from providing Chris Kobak, the vice chair on the Presidential Commission on Election and Ministry Election Integrity, from the

data that they were requesting. And so when you know, Chris Kolback decided, well, maybe I'll give myself this data. They were sued nineteen times by groups fassilitated with George Soros, Right, so they were said they were bullied by lawsuit out of existence. But the good news is is that I think the motivation to expose and inspect this issue is still there. It's just gone to an administrative level, right, rather than maybe ministerial if if that's those terms are correct,

that's what you've got now, Department Home in Security. They're taking it seriously. So you've seen people charged in North Carolina. You've seen people charged in Texas. So I think I think states that decide, listen, we're going to be serious about the accuracy and integrity of our elections. They're finding people to prosecute, and people are being prosecuted and people are going to jail. So we have to leave it there. Eric, I'm afraid we're up against the break here. We have

to leave it there. But I'm so glad you could join us today. We've got a lot of people being very complimentary about the guests on this show today, and I'm so glad you're one of them because it's a lot of fantastic information. You can find out more in Fraud how the Left plan is still the next election. Eric, thank you again. Than This is the Buck Sexton Show. I'm Raheem Kassam. We'll be right back after this break. Welcome back to the Buck Sexton Show. I'm Raheemam filling

in for Mr Sexton. We are in the Freedom Part in Washington, d C. Coming back to you guys on the phone lines now eight four four n eight to five eight four D. Buck got Jean in Wisconsin on the line. Gene, good evening, Hi, raheem, thanks for taking my car. Hey can you hear me? Okay? Absolutely, go right ahead. Okay. So here's the thing. I'm nobody, but even I can see that this is a swamp issue and we have to control the swamp. And so this should have been added into the children's book that that

fellow was talking about earlier. But why why are we paying this Brenda Snipes hundred over a hundred hundred and fifty hundred seventy five thousand a year to to be a mess up? I don't know why we're paying her that. Why don't we hire an independent uh in, a bonded accounting firm, since that's what they do is count and have them administer the the the the voting. I mean, why do we keep paying the swamp to swamp us?

You can do me a favor, would you please mention this to Buck and and really talk about it, because you guys are you know, at a at a higher level, and it's it's a very good it's a very good question, and it is. It is a very good question I have. I have a somewhat of an opinion on this and somewhat of an answer on it. There are there are a lot of now verification processes um you know, UH scanners, lots of things that are being deployed and that you know,

some of them be trialed and some work and some don't. UM. Some of them are using external firms to make sure this happens. Some again, as you say, are doing it with these swamp like creatures in charge of the final audits. But I would say this as well, be be very careful about what you wish for in this scenario, because do remember that a lot of these same sort of financial firms and auditing firms and and and those types were the same type of people who were responsible for

the two thousand and eight financial crisis. You know, the the the sort of swamp of the finance world is very very similar to the swamp of the political world. The KPMG recently firing people over ethics breaches. PwC now investigating UH ethics breaches and and allegations of fraud under its purview. So you know, be be very careful what you wish for in that regard, because at least with the people like Brenda Snipes, she's known, we can hold her two accounts somewhat. We can at least make her

very very famous for these sorts of failings. But when you put the put the elections in the hands of sort of you know, faceless auditors behind you know whether they're independent or whether their government mandated firms in this regard, be very very careful about that, Gene. But I do appreciate the call, and I will mention, as you say to Buck, that this needs this needs much more in terms of in terms of scrutiny. This is Raheem Kasan on the Buck Sexton Show, and of the second hour.

Where does the time go? The phone number eight four four eight two five eight four four nine hundred. Buck will be right back after this break. Welcome back to the Buck Sexton Show. I'm Rahem Casan covering for Buck Sexton today. Lots of lots of topics to hit. We've hit so many already. At the time always goes very very quickly. You think about it all day. You think

I'm gonna be sitting in there for three hours. It's going to go really slowly and have loads of time, and then before you know it, you're getting unceremoniously turfed out of the building and your time's up. You've had your shot, and there's just you know, the news cycle, especially when when you sort of take an into national view of it, is just completely and totally all engulfing.

Right now, in the last couple of hours, John Kasik in New Hampshire saying all options are on the table when it comes to challenging President Donald J. Trump for

the White House. Yes, it made me laugh also, but it does make you realize that no matter what this president does, no matter how good the economy is, where he when he's being by partisan doing criminal justice reform, when he's sending troops down to the border to defend the Nation States sovereignty, when he's giving these tax cuts that are very, very popular with the gops donor class. You know, nothing is enough for the r n c's establishment. Here you have a bought and paid for member of it.

John Ksik saying that he doesn't know what he's going to do yet in twenty he may well run against President Trump. In basilic I say, now, in the first hour of the show, we did a little bit of chat about the Brexit maschinnations that are taking place in the United Kingdom at the moment, I promised you a guest from the UK, the chairman of the oldest conservative think tank in the country, got tied up a little bit during a speech at Oxford University. But I'm delighted

to say is joining us now. Ben Harris Quinney joins on the line to dissect what exactly took place in Britain today. Seems like there was a spate of cabinet resignations um and uh and and really leaving the Prime Minister a bit high and drying. And and it matters. And we get that it matters to you guys over here because it matters as to whether or not we do a free trade deal with the United States. I mean, remember, we may be a small land mass, but we are

not a small economy. Um. You know, a three trillion GDP economy, massive, massive importer from the United States already and indeed a massive exporter to the United States, already, A G seven country, one of the biggest, and and one of the ones that is growing rather than shrinking like the Eurozone. Nations are Ben Harris Queeneen, welcome to the buck Sexton Show. Thank you very much for me. So Ben walk us through a little bit of what happened today. Was this was this out of the blue?

Did people see this coming? What are the implications for Brexit as a process of the Prime Minister in and of herself, um, and indeed for the the fact that we were supposed to be Britain was supposed to be at the front of the queue according to President Trump, for one of these trade deals that he is also so keen to close. Well, it's it's the Guardian k not for Britain leaving the European Union. It's intensely complex.

But the best way I could describe it to an American audience is the situation in the UK is as if John Kasik was president, surrounded by Trump supporters. We have this bizarre situation with Theresa remained supporter and by hook or by crook, ended up as Prime Minister without a vote taking place, and she's been essentially delivering a version of practice that would keep us in the European Union,

and the game is finally up. We called for her to resign yesterday after canvassing many members of Parliament on the issue. And finally British people, as you your listeners will have learned with me being in our late or

always slow to act, but they have finally acted. Um, and the true believing Conservatives of the Braxfit support of the people in the Conservative Party that would be likely to support Donald Trump and a trade deal with the United States, have finally taken action, and they've submitted the letters of no confidence in Theresa May, and she will now face a leadership election which will be something equivalent to what Americans would would experience with the primary election,

except not necessarily before a general election. And all that has got to take place before March twenty nine, where we are scheduled to leave the European Union, and in theory we need all our bucks in a row by then. So unfortunately, from Donald Trump's point of view, he's willing to put us at the front of the queue, but we haven't even arrived at the queue yet. Well, it sounds like a bit of a mess. Um. The Conservative Party is the party of government in the United Kingdom.

People should know that it is very very scarcely ever conservative in its in its policies, or or in its positions. What does it bode for for them? And does this mean that you might have a hardline socialist the equivalent of you know, the love child of Bernie Sanders and Alexander Arcassio Cortez um chap called Jeremy Corbyn who leads to the Labor Party. Does it give him an inn

to the keys to Downing Street? It potentially does. Um. There is certainly scenario where by this all leads to a general election and if we're putting up candidates of the Cannaba Theresa May, then she could certainly lose two

a figure on love Corbin. Um, it's it's a big risk and we didn't call for her resignation likely although as you say, we are a conservative organization and the Conservative Party really being conservative since stature, so we will never have the biggest supporter, but we do we do realize that there is a great risk inherent in this.

But because of how bad her dealer was, and particularly because and this will seem very bizarre to Americans, it locked us into a deal that, according to the wording of it, would not allow Britain to ever ever change that deal or pull out of it without the consent of the European Union, so we would we would be locked to that deal. And I think because of that it has been worth taking the risk to force a leadership election and get someone in that will give us

the Brexit deal that the British public voted for. Now, let's let's just finally relate this for Americans, because of course, there are a lot of people in this country in the United States where I am right now, who who understand and who take the view that the Brexit was actually part and parcel of President trump selection, that that without the June the twenty three vote in two thousand and sixteen in the United Kingdom, that a lot of Americans saw and and celebrated that they may have not

had the gumption to get to that ballot box and and do what they did that without sort of people like Nigel Farage going down to Jackson, Mississippi, to Canvas on behalf of President Trump and doing a lot of the television interviews on the run up to that election and communicating with the ordinary Americans as to why they were draining the swamp in the UK as well. Um, you know, twenty sixteen may have gone very very differently.

And while Donald is draining the swamp in the United States, and perhaps not as quickly as a lot of people would like, and perhaps that wall isn't being built as quickly as a lot of people would like. But while at least the victory meant executive authority in the United States, it did know such thing in Britain, right, But that's

absolutely right. I mean both both movements were the movements of the people against the establishment, that this throwing off of centrist politics and liberalism that has been in spite of the people of both America and the United Kingdom and against their views and values for so long. So they're similar in that sense. But as you say, and as Nigel Ferage says upon Donald Trump's selection, the difference is that an American revolution can be completed in one

electoral cycle. In Britain it's next twenty or thirty years, and they still don't get it, even after everything that's happened, even after the clear message that the British people have said that they don't want business as usual, they want to get rid of this old, tired and decrepid class of politicians. Theresa May is still banging that old drum against you know, all of the advice of now the entirety of Parliament, including opposition parties. So unfortunately our political

system is is scrossing. And I'm a great believer in the American political system for its faults, because it puts the American people in charge. What we're now trying to run is a reguard action despite the fact we've already won. So we're trying to via other means than direct democracy and put pressure to see the decision of the British

people implemented. And that's been a very hard road over the last two years, and I know things like Nigel Farage are absolutely beside themselves in the efforts that they've existed for for for their entire careers to get to this point, only to have defeat potentially um snatched from the from the doors of victory, because we want the argue that all the people are still in power. Ben Harris Queeney, the chairman of the Bow Group, thank you so much for joining us here. I know it's late

there and you have an early morning flight. UM so really grateful. You can find out more about the Bow Group at bow Group dot org. I believe is that right? That is right? Absolutely so Bow Group dot Org. Ladies and gentlemen, thank you again to Ben. The phone lines are open eight four four to eight to five, eight four four, nine hundred buck. I want to hear from many of you in this hour as possible, so get on those lines. We're obviously talking about nationalism, national sovereignty.

The difference between globalism and nationalism, I think escapes a lot of people. I have been touting my my Daily Caller article from yesterday, UM, over and over again across this across this three hours show. UM. I you can find out my Twitter feed. UM that that what's going on in the United Kingdom. What you just heard is I mean, we tried to obviously to relate it to an American audience. I'm not here to try and bore

you with the politics of foreign countries. But the two movements, the Trump movement of the Brexit movement was so inextricably linked and and and we share the same values, and we share the same wishes for our own nations. UM that I think it's it bears repeating, and it bears consideration, especially given what happened in the midterm elections. Our movement got transfigured from a rebellion from taking back control. You know, you had make America great again, and we had we

want our country back. He know, there's there's a sort of nationalistic, sovereignistic nostalgia that both of these things we're based off and ours got hijacked by the political establishment and turned into the precise thing that it was the antithesis of. It got turned into a bureaucratic process. It

got turned into the administrative states plaything. And I fear that right now, especially after these mid terms, especially with Nancy Pelosi potentially as the House majority leader, that this administration's aims and goals are themselves going to be turned into a nightmarish, bureaucratic, administrative state like process. And that's the thing to consider when comparing and contrasting these two things. Our fates are so intrinsically linked that one cannot be

viewed without the other. This is the Buck Sexton Show. My name is Raheim Kasam. I'm covering for Buck today here in Washington, d C. And we're going to be right back after this short break. Welcome back to the Buck Sexton Show. I'm Rahem Casam fitting in for Buck Sexton today. The phone lines are open eight four four n eight to five. That's eight four four nine hundred buck. When I get some more callers, Steve is in Massachusetts on the line, now, Steve, good evening, Good evening, how

are you. Um. One of the weird things about illegal immigration that's actually a symptom of a far greater problem. What illegal immigration actually does. It's an anarchy way of destroying the national sovereignty of nations and getting them to into like this guilt trip because they can't think of a largical argument against it. It's like guilt tripping people

into destroying letting their own national sovereignty being destroyed. Um. In America there's a classic example of it, because you have cities and towns fighting against counties, counties fighting against states, states fighting the federal government. It's like anarchy, and uh, it creates a lot of conflict. But that's the real issue. UM I I kind of get frustrated when people talk about illegal immigration because that's kind of like a diversion.

The destruction of national sovereignty is really what worries me. Oh, I completely agree with you, it is. It is just a symptom. Illegal immigration is just a symptom of the erosion of national sovereignty of borders of the nation state. That's why I wrote the article I did yesterday. Steve, tell me, what is in your opinion the point why would anybody want to attack the nation state like that? Well, basically, I well it there there's a couple of philosophies. One

is called social libertarianism. In other words, you can travel from city to city, state to state, and then they expanded into country to country. It's like an anarchy form of uh. Well, and it's also tightened with that open border thing. And I think it also dovetails into like, um, you know, the whole revolutionary aspect of destabilizing nation to set it up for a socialist revolution. It's almost like, you know, the indoctrination phase is completely so let's go

straight into destabilizing the nation and what is it? What is the other part of it? Um? That's basically I'm just curious. I'm you you sound pretty well read. Have you ever heard of a guy named Uri Besmanoff. He was a KGB defector in the eighties, and he basically explained to the Sophia strategy for destroying as a four step process for destabilizing and destroying a nation start indoctrination.

I remember, I remember reading about that several years ago, you know, the it's interesting with with the cultural Marxism, with all of that that had happened, and and and frankly, as much as we now know about what was going on in both the United States and in Western Europe in terms of the the the the you know, whether it's the LGBT stuff or whether it was the illegal immigration stuff, as much as we now know, we still have a situation where the ordinary person out there is

so easily dragged along by the propaganda they get at school, the propaganda you see at university, or the propaganda you get in the news media. Steve, how do we fix that? Um? A little, definitely with education. People have to get over their guilt because what happens what the left does is they'll create an argument, a complex argument. And because a lot of times when if I don't have a rational argument for against something, you know, the tendency is to

go along with it. But my solution from a United States standpoint is to read upon the federalist papers, to read upon national sovereignty, read upon the Constitution, and basically, we as a nation, we need to refamiliarize ourselves why we went from the Articles of Confederation to a strong federal government. Absolutely, I completely agree with you. You know, Steve, I'm a I'm a fellow at a group called the Claremont Institute, and the Claremont Institute put out I mean,

they do all the sorts of publications. They have a journal every quarter. And I'll tell you for me, especially as somebody from who wasn't born in the United States and who didn't even get a cursory education, maybe that helps nowadays. I don't know in in US history, Um, the Claremont Review of Books is, isn't It's just the best source you could possibly imagine for the for the as you say, the arguments that came out of the

Federalist papers and so on and so forth. So I commend that to you, and Steve, thank you so much for the excellent call. Here this this evening on the Buck Sexton Show, we came to work. I know I'm not getting asylum because they don't give you asylum for hunger, said Carlos Jose Romero, who's on the migrant caravan. That is a quote from the Guardian that came out today, admitting that This is economic migration, not asylum seekers. This is the Buck Sexton Show. I'm Raheem Casa right back

after this break. Welcome back to the Bucks Sexton Show. I'm Raheem Casam here filling in for Buck Sexton in aided the Freedom Hut this evening, and I intend to burn it to the ground when I leave. Now. I shouldn't say that. Somebody will take me seriously. Um, the phone lines are open eight four four eight two five

eight four for nine hundred buck. I know we've jumped around a bit this evening, but everything is so intertwined at the moment, whether it's Jim Acosta on migrant caravans or Jim Acosta and CNN suing the White House for banning Jim Acosta. Basically, Jim Acosta is the news right now, and that's what Jim Acosta wanted. Jim Acosta. When Jim Acosta stands up and talks about Jim Acosta, he wants us to talk about Jim Acosta. So we're talking about Jim Acosta. That's a lot of Jim Acosta. It's too

much any Jim Acosta Acosta. But there is an interesting development in this case. Um, the CEO of the One American News Network tweeted out earlier today that they were going to file in the CNN versus the White House court trial whatever. It is, an amicus brief that is a stakeholder submission effectively in favor of the White House. And the reason that's interesting is because everyone else, I think, including Fox News, has filed an amicus brief in favor

of CNN. So we have the president of the One American News Network joining us on the line now, Charles Herring, thank you so much for your time this evening, sir, my pleasure. Hey, Charles, tell us you stand out amongst the crowd of those supporting CNN in their endeavor to litigate one person's access to the White House, because, let's face it, CNN has other people with access. So this is just again about Jim Acosta himself. This is not

about the free press as far as I'm concerned. But tell us One American News, which I think is fantastic, and and I and I go on there with your with your great hosts and interviews a lot um. How did you come to this decision and what does it mean? Well,

we came to this decision a long time ago. I've been in the briefing room a number of times in the back of the briefing room with our reporters sitting in the briefing room asking questions, and I've seen just too many times where Mr Acosta uh once to grandstand, interrupt and continue speaking when other reporters are called upon, including our own, and he's hindering other reporters from being

able to ask meeting for questions. And one thing that we all like about the briefing room and what we like about a free press is there's diversity and questions and that doesn't happen when Jim Acosta wants to grandstand. And so I've had a problem with Jim Acosta, one specific individual, not CNN, with Jim Acosta himself for his

lack of professionalism in the briefing room. You know. UM. One that I find very interesting is if somebody would have said to you or anyone uh, any individual of your audience, somebody was in the briefing room interrupting, preventing other reporters from asking questions, and you asked, who is

that person, just about everybody would say Jim Acosta. His behavior has been going on for too long, and CNN has done nothing about it, and obviously there's a reason for that, and we can all speculate that they like his behavior, and the White House Correspondence Association has done nothing about it, and finally somebody has done something about it administration, and it's a big controversy. Frankly, I don't understand why it's a controversy. For me, it's a very

simple issue. He's disruptive, he's unprofessional, He's tying up the precious time for other reporters to ask meaningful questions of the President of the United States, and something needed to be done. So we're supportive of the administration. The the White House Correspondence Association that a lot of people don't realize how that's constituted. Um It's it's got a board, uh,

and it's people who are taken from across the media pool. Effectively, you have Sirius XM's correspondent as the president, ABC's White House correspondent as a vice president, NBC's uh senior White House producer as the secretary. It's the photographer of The New York Times as one of the board members, etcetera, etcetera. Um is is there real diversity in the White House Correspondence Association or do they sort of fit in with with the Jim Acosta style of doing things. That's why

they are broadly supportive of what CNN is doing here. Well, a couple of things that I do know. I've been speaking with other senior management of other media companies that have representatives in the briefing room, and they have chairs and I know where they stand, and many of them are supportive of the administration's actions. They're disappointed with how one reporter has been conducting himself during the briefings. And so there is a silent group of individuals of of

media companies UH that are disappointed and Jim Acosta's behavior. UH. Clearly there's an issue with the White House Correspondence Association, and we saw that at the dinner this year. UM a number of people walked out. Clearly, UH, the board is not very diverse, and and look, we're trying to work within that organization to increase UH the voices from all sides. But occasionally you do need to stand up.

And I believe in self regulation, and I think it's important for media UH senior officials to stand up and call other people out when they think there's an issue and try to do it in an appropriate manner. And that's what we're doing here. Look, we don't have any issue with CNN. We don't have any issue with the questions of any reporter. We just want them to conduct themselves in a professional manner and most importantly, don't hinder

other journalists in the room. Frankly, I think that Jim thinks his opinion and his comments are more important than the other people in the room, and that's problematic for freedom of press and as and as we found out today, we're speaking with Charles Hearing, the president of the One American News Network. As we found out today, Charles often

very very misleading. Um CNN has broadcast this clip so many times now, and it features Jim Acosta saying that there are not migrants at the US border, that they're not climbing walls at Tijuana, that there aren't thousands of them, that there are only hundreds of them, and that they're eligible for asylum, and that they're all mothers and children. And and we've we've a lot of us have known this for a long time that that was not true.

But the video came out yesterday and it showed the very significant number in excess of I'm told and now at the US border and are climbing that border and are breaching the rules and know that they're not eligible for asylum and one to get in and disappear. And so the whole banana apple uh standard the CNN set up for themselves. And if you guys haven't seen it, I think I think I'm right in saying that one American News has a funny parody of that on on

your guys YouTube channel. Um, you know that that is also of of grave concern because they're the ones, are they not who are pointing the fingers at President Trump every day and screaming liar, liar, pants on fire. Meanwhile, the most famous clip probably over the last year, which is that one of Jim Acosta trying to tell President Trump off, turns out to be fake news. Well what's clear is that viewers just look around and they do.

They're very very smart, and they go to multiple sources for their news, and they'll see the red pickup trucks and the young gentleman after young gentlemen getting in and there are no families, it's all men. So we know why they're coming up. They've been interviewed by numerous people, including our own reporters, and we know that it's for economic reasons. A vast majority, and we know a vast majority are young men. Matter of fact, it's very difficult

to find families. We know that other journalists know that, and it's been broadly reported. So if one media outlet wants to distort the facts, they can do that. That's that we don't have a problem with that. Viewers can decide and they're smart enough to figure out that there's other sources for legitimate news. And I do believe and I do the same thing that viewers bounce around. They go from TV channel to channel, they go onto the internet,

they talk with friends, and they'll figure it out. We happen to have offices in San Diego, California, and today we had people down on the border, and I can tell you that there's a lot of people right up against the fence, crawling up on the fence, and we have the United States military and we have border enforcement on the other side trying to figure out what they're doing, what their game plan is, and where they're going with this.

And there's another print media that's making it clear that more buses are going to be unloaded with two thousand people either tonight or in the morning. So they're amassing on the border in Tijuana. And what their plans are we don't know, so we'll we'll figure it out and your viewers will figure it out. Also, they're smart enough to to look around at the media sources and they don't need to rely just on one media source such

as CNN. Well, what I really like about what what One America does is, uh, you know, it's dedicated to news actually news reports um rather than ours and upon hours of opinion based programming and this room for that. But but what I really like about about One of Erican News, Charles, is the is the commitment um to two real reports about what's really going on. And and as much as a lot of your colleagues and staff are I consider friends, they never give me an easy

ride when they're interviewing me. It's always it's always with a straight bat. So kudos to you guys in your organization for doing what you do. Charles Hearing, the president of the One American News Network, thank you for joining us here on the Buck Sexton Show. Thank you. Well, there you go, ladies and gentlemen, the the only news network right now standing up to Jim Acosta and standing

up to see an end's lawsuit against the White House. Um, so you know, by all means, if you are in preston in favor of that, go ahead and uh and and give them your support in the form of Twitter follows and and and network views and so on and so forth, because I can't. I can't commend them enough for the brave decision that they've taken in standing up

to that chap. And I I know the frustration of not being called upon in a room full of journalists because there is some hoity toity bigger fish in the room who wants to flounce around like a diva for the cameras. I've seen it happen. I've been in my fair share of press briefings all over the world, in fact, and and you know, those of us who have worked for smaller organizations or less well known organizations or alternative news networks have problems asking questions that I think actually

more interesting. You know that I think aren't just oh, Mrs Clinton, how come you so beautiful today? You know, Mr Obama, what makes you so brilliant, Please share it with us. You know, some of us actually want to ask hard, interesting pressing questions about things, and the likes of Jim Acosta just just dominate, you know, the room, dominate the time. Um, and that is not I mean, he is impeding press freedom more so than President Trump

or the illustration, as far as I'm concerned is. And that's why I wanted to to bring on Charles Herring from the One American News Network too to talk to us about what what O a N is doing. I know more and more people are watching O A N now as well. We had a film that I was a part of called Trump at War and O E N. We're the first outlet to to run the whole film, uh there before the before the midterm elections, sort of setting out the stall of the midterm elections. Very interesting film. Indeed,

you can still catch it um online on YouTube. Yeah, and I think it was on Western journal and Western Journalism as well. UM. Alright, the phone line is still open, ladies, gentlemen, eight to five. We're gonna go to a quick break now. When we come back, UM, hopefully more of your calls

and a couple of things to wrap up. But we're coming to the end of the show, which is the saddest time for me, mostly because I love the sound of my own voice, but also, I mean, really, there is so much news, and for a nerd like me, you know, more news the better. We'll be right back here on the Buck Sexton Show after this short break coments here this evening. Marahem Kasa been your fill in

host for today. I always like to get my thanks out of the way early in this last slot because otherwise, as the end draws closer and I try and fit in more and more, I tend to forget. So I want to just thank the the excellent producers of this show for all their help today. Also, I hope you agree with me, the excellent guests we've had on over the course of the show, and of course you guys, the callers, the listeners most importantly, because what's the point.

Otherwise I just be talking to myself. I could be staring in a mirror and talking to myself, which you know I am prone to do from time to time. But I'm glad tonight wasn't one of them. Just a couple of things too was on tonight, as We've covered a lot, covered a lot of the voting fraud, a lot of the gym Acosta stuff, Brexit. Gosh, think about

all the topics we've taken on today. Turns out Florida is now not going to use Browward County's recount tally after all of this, because it was uploaded two minutes past the three pm Thursday deadline. So, after all the cost and the expense and the agony for the voters of Florida, I'm gonna end up using those uh, those recount totals anyway, A testament so how brilliant Brenda Snipes

and the Democrats down there really are. And yet and yet, ladies and gentlemen, there are states, there are areas, There are counties. There are regions that our turning purple, even under this president, even under this economy, places turning purple. Arizona springing to mind, what is going on? What is with people's lack of logic, lack of brain power? How are they still voting for the crooked Democrats of this But I don't know. I I gotta go down there,

I think and figure it out. You know, I'm a big fan of Arizona. Prescott is a is a big favorite of mine. Um, so maybe I'll take a trip down there and start to figure some of this stuff out, because it really baffles me. I wanted to pick up on something that Eric Aga said earlier on as well that we didn't get to get into, but I thought was a particularly a stoop point, mostly because I've been making it for a while. Um, it's that the left take Trump literally but not seriously, and the right take

Trump seriously but not literally. Think about that. There is something in the right wing mind at the moment, the conservative mind at the moment, that tends towards irony. The left used to love irony, remember George Carlin, Bill Mars still has a sense of irony, but more or less the rest of them let it go. Their literalists. They believe everything literally, They take everything at face value. They don't question, they don't ask, they're not curious. That's a

great pity for them, but it's incumbent upon us. And I'm glad that Eric Metaxas, who we had earlier on today, does things like makes the books for the kids. The cultural war, the war for your heart as well as your mind, is raging right now, and Buck Sexton will be back to captain you again tomorrow. I've been Rehem Kassam, you've been great. Have a great evening.